The Most Questionable Changes I've Seen... (Midseason Patch 14.10 Analysis) | League of Legends

Today we'll be looking at patch 14.10 also known as the midseason update and... yeah I don't know how to feel about this. From reverts, to "removal" of tenacity, to the ADC item system getting changed ONCE AGAIN.
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[@babygirlvenere]

the wildest plot twist of this video is finding out that Vars has tried his hand at Yone. like on the one hand, you’re becoming the very thing you swore to destroy, but on the other hand - know thy enemy, you know?

[@icewrack9152]

I almost think that is the sort of thing he would do - also - if you can't beat them... join them?

[@VarsVerum]

I never said he wasn't fun to play haha. He's a guilty pleasure :P We all trash on Mcdonalds for being edible garbage and yet them 20 piece at 3am kinda flames.

[@lametrain9667]

The culture surrounding shaming people for playing certain champs is so cringe. Like just let people play whatever they want lol

[@lillynystrom4571]

@@lametrain9667 This is unfortunately very out of touch. I don't think he's really ever shamed players for playing yone, just shamed the stupid champ itself

[@ultimaabyssal2484]

​@@lametrain9667 You will not stop me from shaming every single Yuumi player that gets strapped to some helpless player like a parasite while they do nothing but type in chat.

[@hanimujalli3339]

No lethal tempo is all I care about. Good bye to 1000 gold value lvl 1 for yasou/yone.

[@iaet585]

Huge change for fellow Yasuo degens, we're gonna be itemizing like it's Season 8 again baby

[@vulekrofna3930]

I play yone and Im happy for the change as well,now I can accualy try other runes

[@Vaestus]

@@iaet585 except we cant cause shiv is terrible and Shieldbow lost its lifesteal. Why did they not just go back to old tempo is beyond me, but im fine with not having it as Yasuo anymore. But I hate the items, what are we going to do? Kraken has no crit, Shieldbow has no lifesteal, shiv sucks, we have no good first item I can think of anymore.

[@SuicidalPooh]

Good

[@Timeforspas12]

They'll still slap you into oblivion, don't worry.

[@yetifileti]

I still think shieldbow should be reworked into a physical version of maw

[@traficantededolly9922]

And now that a adc can get 100% crit with 4 itens, instead of 5, you can easily get a sterak, instead of shieldbow, and trade the crit for tenacity, health, and a bigger shield for just more 200 gold

[@mantraki]

​@@traficantededolly9922i hate hashinshin but i have to give him a point, riot balance team cant think ahead when balancing stuff

[@victorpedrosoceolin3919]

​@@mantrakisteraks will give a small shield if they build 4 crit itens But, they can go jak sho, frozen heart, this things

[@bryanhickernell7189]

@@traficantededolly9922I’m fairly sure the reason streaks isn’t good on adcs is because it gives base ad I might be wrong but adcs have some of the worst base ad with rlly high ad growth

[@errettfitchett2463]

I think deaths dance should be like that

[@marvinbange1216]

Honestly im kinda sad that corki isnt a magic dmg adc anymore, because i think the concept of "crit marksman but does magic dmg instead" is pretty interesting. Obviously he was pretty much just a pokemage in recent years but still. I think id prefer it if they doubled down on the original concept and changed him so that he is a viable magic dmg option for bot when your team picked full ad

[@ignacioperez5479]

They reverted him

[@lotion5238]

How about AP marksman that does physical damage! Why does smoulder do physical damage

[@Dfvill]

This characters are always a nightmare to balance. Corki was always a random buff away to any AP or AD item to be completly broken.

[@topdog_5456]

I read poke mage as pokémage...

[@vermillion7627]

I really do think they should add APDCs to the game. True, honest to god, attack speed based AP damage carries. That takes the onus off of ADC to be the main form of AD in the game and also lets there not be an ADC in every game.

[@hine_dere]

ah yes. every other champion is suffering for the sins of Ionian brothers except them. AGAIN

[@titanofyoutube4834]

Most of the ADCs are running LT as well. LT has also been nerfed more often for ranged than it has for melee, so obviously LT is more problematic on ranged than melee.

[@kylemasson9324]

@@titanofyoutube4834 Wrong, but also tempo was NEVER healthy, it's just a flawed rune at it's core, either it's too good on melee, or garbage on ranged

[@titanofyoutube4834]

@kylemasson9324 what the fuck do you mean wrong? Just go on the patch history in the wiki and read yourself, assuming you can read. LT has been nerfed like 3 times for ranged and only once for melee, plus a couple times for both.

[@JaronPalone]

Don’t they suffer the most without lt? I mean what else do they even use it’s just lt in every single matchup?

[@baptistecochennec5956]

They are the one suffering the most like????

[@choty7066]

I liked anathemas chains when 1 person on the enemy team was ultra fed carrying their whole team

[@jasiuo6794]

It was also situationally very good when they have soloAP or soloAD on their team. Not every time of course but still cool when it was viable

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@yulian545]

I was buying it 100% vs Urgot and everytime worked. Darius too

[@rookie4582]

Not a fan of the reduction of early tenacity and locked behind finished items. Even the green jg item no longer has tenacity as one of its stats.

[@aabeeek]

In today's burst oriented meta when often CC = death, it is a huge change.

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

No cc should ever be allowed to last more then 1.5 seconds.

[@GMetzo]

@@WorldKeepsSpinnin indeed. lately the game keeps feeling like dota when it comes to CC and it's pissing me off ( dota has very long CC from 3 to 5 sec )

[@marianorivera3272]

As a TF main, I'm kinda happy mercs won't be as abusable. champions like Zoe and TF almost get hard countered by mercs.

[@orimoreau3138]

As a TF2 main, I would never let my mercs get abused, someone needs to push the cart after all

[@ryanfrancisco7533]

with the amount of point and click CC and ridiculous CC chains, losing access to tenacity is extremely rough. tenacity was a necessary evil to counter point and click CC and or chain CC. even with 50% tenacity i still find myself getting CC'ed to death a lot of the times. we're moving into a season of getting cc'ed to death without counterplay is my main fear.

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@lucashodges5134]

what i find hilarious is that they removed demonic embrace and reverted liandrys to its old form, but now we just have liandrys with blackfire torch which is gonna be WAY more broken. Liandrys stacking %damage, with blackfire torchs' percent ap buff??? i love it when riot removes "problematic" items and then replaces them with items that are way more broken XD

[@xmultycapx124]

I mean demonic was not removed because it was problematic though?

[@AnimeFrankReynolds]

Demonic was removed because it served no purpose as an item in a post-mythic world. As an item that gives ap, hp and a burn, keeping it when you revert the other ap burn item to it's old version that existed for nearly 10 years as an ap, hp, burn item. Now you could argue that they could have reused Demonic Embrace's icon, but Blackfire Torch has a history as a burn item, and stands on its own without the previous iterations eating of the mindshare (unlike Demonic that does have this issue)

[@PsDnK]

Bloodmail is back, another season where Riot favorite damage type, AD, is broken.

[@sqentontheslime1967]

You can’t stack void staff with cryptbloom since they’re both mainly for magic penetration Could have the same here where two burn items won’t both be buyable at once

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@gothified]

smite removed boots in an amazing way, it integrated them into every character through level ups. the move speed at least, this was to make everyone build 6 items when they can.

[@nuclearsynapse5319]

While this would probably be the correct decision, I wonder what they would rework Cassiopeia's passive to, or if they would just let her ZOOM

[@redstranger6772]

only gets a slow instead of stopping completely while casting spells maybe

[@proliloli2141]

i like that you have to decide between boots' MS or the full item stats + passive from another item. it's just a shame that 95% of the time you pretty much have to take the boots...

[@EruCoolGuy]

@@redstranger6772 Then instant casters get disadvantaged.

[@EruCoolGuy]

@@proliloli2141 I think I don't have to elaborate on how MS, alongside attack range/cast range, is the single most important stat in the game. It litteraly defines a kit.

[@AceWolf456]

Bro, Swifties losing slow resist is actually going to hurt my Yorick so much. Slows are the thing that kill me more than full on fights do.

[@AceWolf456]

Oh they put the slow resist on a level 15 lock. Bro that sucks so much ass.

[@ignacioperez5479]

​@@AceWolf456and only on berserkers

[@eli2210]

Good, you deserve it for playing a champ who basically is a 1v6 on his own and unable to kill ghouls without just auto attacking completely nullifying all mages. Even bruisers need to auto instead of use their abilities on them. And all you do is perma split anyways, tf you want the slow result for?? Give people a chance to actually stop you instead of an unhealthy auto win. This nerfs ranged to laners who abuse range top with movement speed and slow resist. Literally giga chad move from them

[@chrisgreen9668]

@@eli2210low ELO detected

[@eli2210]

@@chrisgreen9668 damn imagine ready by the nerf is also for range top laners and still thinning low elo. Oh wait, I detect low elo 🤣 but not from me 😙😙😙

[@Sharon-hr2]

Also known as \

[@Psychoolol]

psycho

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@electraheart5749]

They deleted too much defense from a game that needed a durability patch, and replaced it with pure damage... Also the new masteries

[@titanofyoutube4834]

What defense got deleted? Tank items are overall buffed, BT is now a defensive item and MS on ADC items is also a defensive measure. Meanwhile half of ADC items straight up lose any AD they have, Lethal is also gone. If anything, damage is going down, not up.

[@JoshuaGraves113]

@@titanofyoutube4834 They literally reverted the entirety of the Durability patch while upping damage.

[@electraheart5749]

@@titanofyoutube4834 Tenacity is gone, lots of speed is gone, Randuin's got nerfed. I am a support player and I can tell you with certainty the ADC item changes will result in a meta that won't be forgotten

[@jeromefeliciano4611]

The funny thing is though that playing defensive is way too rewarding in this meta esp in top just turtle in your tower and get lvls then boom you win vs your opponent. Which is imo a good strat but its kinda boring the more you play it.

[@titanofyoutube4834]

@electraheart5749 randuins is a buffed on any tank and arguably just straight buffed on every champ vs crit enemies (you know, it's intended niche). Again, SPEED IS UP, THERE IS MORE THAN BEFORE, not less. This is just objectively the case, it's not up for debate. Tenacity only got removed from runes and is still accessible via items. From I understand mercy is going back to 30% tenacity as well.

[@DraphEnjoyer]

Corkis package was the one thing that made him slightly unique and wasn’t the issue with him They completely undid his rework and now hes back to being a sheen proc spam bot

[@baptistecochennec5956]

Yes corki package was an issue if you think the contrary you never watched proplay

[@dresean3725]

Corkis package was the biggest issue with him in high Elo/pro play. That's why it's been nerfed so much over the years. His engage with it is insanely broken af

[@EruCoolGuy]

giving a line-shaped fiddlesticks ult to a poke marksman is not the most brilliant idea ever. and with how essence reaver is going RN, he may not spam sheen much.

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@Haosnir]

So you rather have Corki the First Strike abuser nuking from two screens away and teams holding to fight only when he had the package?

[@theboulder942]

Yun Tal gonna be one of those items that gets abused by like Jhin and no one else then get removed

[@wren5413]

It triggers off Sundered Sky, so it has niche usage on brusiers that want DoT

[@bashvash]

Tryn

[@baptistecochennec5956]

Jhin, Cait, aphelios, samira

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@harrysliyoko8809]

​@@wren5413No bruiser wants Crit chance .

[@nd4090]

This patch is an official conversion of all adc kogmaw mains into ap kog mains

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@ignacioperez5479]

Shieldbow could be deleted and it would be the same. Other than maybe nilah and MAYBE samira, i see none using it

[@snomrom6595]

Team fight oriented adcs like Zeri and smolder may build it if there’s a lot of burst, but a little too situational still.

[@snomrom6595]

Could pair it with BT as well for even more survivability.

[@ignacioperez5479]

@@snomrom6595 meh. The shield scales on level only

[@tsu_nani2380]

Brother I use deaths dance instead of that useless garbage

[@ShaddyFromHatena]

Same issue with all defensive items, why build them when you'll just get 3-shot instead of 2-shot? Too much damage scaling makes it worthless.

[@novirok1518]

I just feel like corki is gonna be a hidden beast in botlane with him becoming an auto attack carry with a 15% true damage on every single auto AND a crit chance scaling cd refund on ult with the new crit chance from items buff.

[@jorgechi4627]

If I read correctly the changes, buying Runnan will reset his ult every autoattack. Sounds fun

[@eprjct]

I don't think it's a beast in bot lane. Corki's entire kit suits mid. His 2v2 early is really bad but he has a really safe dash and farms nicely under turret in mid lane. If he really wants to maximize his true damage, roaming Top to kill the real tank is a much better option.

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@bltelysian]

warmogs soraka is gonna be more of a threat now, she is tankier + it will now give a lot of the bonus HP that you need for warmogs passive

[@X33Ultras0und]

True a base of 1k HP is a lot and 1.3k is needed for the passive. Moonstone is already +200 & the support item gives +200 when fully upgraded.

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@okinataketori9713]

Man these changes look pretty good "Corrupting potion is deleted" nvm ig

[@ONEDUMMYBOI]

They killed singed with this one fr, no predator, no corruption potion, no swifties

[@Quinxed]

@@ONEDUMMYBOI At least the new item, blackfire torch seems pretty good on him

[@MelonLight222]

​@@ONEDUMMYBOI To hell with singed

[@EruCoolGuy]

@@ONEDUMMYBOI He's most probably on the rework line. Watch him obtain a dash and a poke tool.

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@Keln02]

If they don't decrease damage, the loss of tenacity is going to make the a lot more punishing when it comes to CC Come on riot, reduce all damage ratios

[@SchrodingersTag]

Cant wait to see people still complain when they die to the windshitters without lethal tempo

[@lotion5238]

PTA's getting removed next

[@thedeadguyagain1709]

Fleet has always been a good option still

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@ignacioperez5479]

They are sending marksman back in time, but in a game that works completely different than what it was. I can see this more like a nerf in the damage. I love the 25% crit chance, but im not so sure about everything else

[@omega7057]

I think it can work, but there's still a lot of issues with the class, mainly the lack of agency

[@bryanhickernell7189]

The class has an inherent lack of agency in the early game just bc of how the class is supposed to be played with the exception of a few of the early game marksman like draven and such. To give marksmen back agency they’d have to lengthen average game times which they don’t wonna do

[@nickfox5321]

Also keep in mind that champions like Yone, Yasuo, Tryna and co are going to abuse the items heavily and get them nerfed to the abyss again....

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

@@bryanhickernell7189average game length should be shortened even more imo. It sucks being stuck in a unwinnable game for 30-40 minutes at a time. Then you go back to the boring first 14 minutes of the game again. Games only fun past 14 mins in 90% of games, but half the time the game is lost by then. The games just in a weird state rn. I wouldnt say its the design of the game, but more like the teammates and lack of agency. We have no voice chat and thats a big reason for all of this too. Simple info thats game winning cant be communicated and it just sucks. I rather be playing 25 min games then whatever is happening now. It feels like your forced onto early snowball characters or hyper scalers to win. Any mid game carry is like irrelevant because teams dont know how to press a advantage properly. Then your just stuck waiting to lose watching your team feed

[@baptistecochennec5956]

​@@bryanhickernell7189lack of early agency my ass you're a laner, you scale the best so you're not forced to anything and the game is dictated by who wins the botlane

[@ANilahAtion]

Wildarrows will definitely be removed. Phreak claimed it was an item to compete with IE but acknowledged IE was better... so why does it even exist.

[@wren5413]

It also triggers off Sundered Sky, so its just a dot item option for champs building Sundered Sky with random crit chance attached. The only other consistent use for it is Jhin exactly.

[@maruseron]

aphelios likes it - he applies so many on-attack effects through combos that he gets a lot of mileage from the item

[@ANilahAtion]

@@wren5413 yeah no one is building it with sundered sky ever

[@ANilahAtion]

@@maruseron one champion really makes the item a miss

[@wren5413]

@@ANilahAtion I dont think it will be a super popular application, but I can definitely see it being a niche option as a way to win specific matchups, which is a better use than most adc’s have for it.

[@amonsenpai6624]

Riot should just consider adding more items to create versatile sub categories like we have AD + Crit items then Just AD + Effect for ADCs that don't want crit, and we get so attack speed + crit and counterpart for them again for ADCs that doesn't want crit then on-hit + crit and situational + crit and their counterparts the items could be little under performing, but we will have many options to choose from if we will have 6 of each it will create 252 unique 5 item combinations if 12 then 364 it's a lot of items to ask for, but it will be like once you add all those items, and then you can only adjust their power etc. (End of Thinking Capacity)

[@chariciard]

In a perfect world this would be a really good idea, but Riot can't seem to balance the items correctly even with the few we have, imagine asking them to balance an extra 20 or so items on top

[@baptistecochennec5956]

Ad crit exist, ad effect is just bruiser and assasin, nobody want attack speed crit only and attack speed on-hit already exist

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@BananaMeat]

Ahh yes, lets just add more true damage to champs. Thats exactly what we need, more damage. I also think in regards to burn damage, they just need to bring back adaptive helm. If burn damage deserves to be in the meta then so too does its counterpart. Tank metas are the most fun anyways, significantly more interesting and fun than the "oops you walked slightly too far forward, your dead" meta.

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@yulian545]

You should sai "Tank item assasins abuser meta", because Ekko, Katarina, Fizz, Diana tank was abusing them)

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

how many reworks do we need to accept that exponential scaling is stupid?

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@annaadotd6405]

I think they didn't think about how much they gutted some champs, gp lost 3 major items, singed got demoted to a minion (minishcap a well know otp literally made 40 min video explaining it), etc. and ADCs no matter their role got significantly buffed (like vayne top). There needs to be another year of balance updates to just bring things back to normal.

[@lotion5238]

And they buffed urgot again, goddamnit riot

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

Gp deserves it, singed mega deserves it that champ is so stupid any and all proxy focused champions should be completely gutted and then reworked, and as for vayne top, just prevent any ranged characters from entering top lane for the first 15 mins make it a real island ez

[@butterflysdaydream2944]

Gp is one of the dumbest champs ever let them gut him. He ignores armor and one shots from range, he heals himself and has a cleanse if you can get to him, but even then he has a TRUE DAMAGE BLEED that deals like 800 dmg minimum and you still end up getting 1 shotted

[@wallachia4797]

If you play Singd you're inting anyways, let's be honest

[@vincemeat774]

hey Vars next time is it possible to do the video on Dark mode the white screen made it unwatchable for me , i did treat it like a podcast but i like to read along with you next time , thanks for video

[@humphrey261]

I like to call it a PHREAKY rework

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@ThePinkBabyMusic]

time warp is useless now, used it on Poppy with Corrupting Potions + Biscuits and now you can't even Refill + Biscuits, anyone who would even consider timewarp could just take biscuits for more healing

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@principal-videojuegos6666]

i feel the upgraded berserkers so that adc have a little bit more scaling than other champions, as they are the ones that build it primarly, except for a few odds champs

[@snomrom6595]

It’s just helping turn them into the late game team fight monsters they’re supposed to be. The one things adcs need more than any other class is stats from items so I don’t really see the problem with Berserkers getting the upgrade, especially given how currently pretty much every single class has higher base ms than the one class that needs it the most to do their job.

[@baptistecochennec5956]

​@@snomrom6595other class need ms to catch ranged otherwise they can't play

[@proliloli2141]

give another late game item to the scaling carry champs... ( jinx = super hyper carry 1v19 machine )

[@principal-videojuegos6666]

@@proliloli2141 i would argue that is the nature of the champs no? What was the purpose of an adc? A character that scales the best in the game and become a really relevant thread. They are really weak early and should be taken advantage of in the game. I am not against that. Otherwise, in today's game everyone does DMG, then what is the distinctive factore of an adc? That it is range DMG? The same way if you face a kasadian lvl 18 full build you are doomed. Or a Kayle late game you are doomed. You avoid those situation by abusing early. The same goes for ADC

[@srensen3081]

@@baptistecochennec5956 alternatively we could just delete adcs from the game, which seems like its what you want

[@loudwhispre9406]

19:45 Cash Back is more spending power than Future's Market. Future's Market lets you go into debt up to a max of 100 + 8x gold, with x = minutes. That means at 10 minutes, you can go 180g into debt. But, you get charged 50 gold for leaving fountain in debt, meaning you get punished on a future purchase being 50g more expensive. Cash Back makes completed items 6% cheaper, which means a 3000g item is actually 180 gold cheaper. A 3200g item will be 192 gold cheaper. FM lets you hit first item power spike earlier, CB makes every item past first item feel way cheaper to buy. If you're not sure about Cash Back, let me put it like this, you get 192 gold for completing an item, which means you're getting more than an assist's worth of gold for doing nothing. This is definitely OP and will get nerfed, if not on PBE, then definitely in a future patch. Edit: Jack of All Trades is obviously only going to consider each unique stat once. So if you have two items that give HP and armor, you'll still have one stack for HP and one stack for armor. The name and description of the rune make this super obvious I feel. This rune is dogshit. For you to get the additional 25 adaptive force, you would need to index into 10 stats. HP, mana, AP, haste, movement speed, magic pen, armor. That's 7 stats for a typical mage build with boots giving the movement speed. Each of those stats gives 1 stack, which equals 1 haste per stack, so 7 haste. You also have 5 or more stacks, so get a bonus 10 adaptive force. By indexing into 7 unique stats, you gained 7 haste and 10 adaptive force. As a marksman, you'll index into Attack Speed, AD, life steal, movement speed, armor pen, crit chance, crit damage, haste, maybe HP and a defensive stat. That's 10 unique stats, but you had to index into an HP item, which doesn't bode well for build quality (it means your build is shit), just to get 10 haste (10 unique stats) and 25 adaptive force. Pretty much only bruisers could run this rune and reasonably get to 10 unique stats without compromising their build. HP, armor, MR, movement speed, haste, tenacity, health regen, AD, Attack Speed, and Life Steal. That's 10 unique stats in 6 items. By the way, Jack of All Trades rune sucks because you could only realistically get to 10 stacks at full build, which means you'll be at 5 bonus haste and 10 adaptive force for most of the game. And just to clarify, one point of adaptive force grants 0.6 AD, or 1 AP. That means 25 adaptive force grants 14 AD. Long Sword grants 10 AD. So the most diverse build would reward you with 10 haste (that's not a lot) and barely more than a Long Sword in extra stats.

[@sqentontheslime1967]

Overheal was a neat rune idea, it never worked tbh but I’m gonna miss the idea being there

[@bkoskitalo96]

i think an underrated change in the tank items is Abyssal mask getting cheaper, a bigger aoe and shredding 20% pen. TWENTY PERCENT aoe mr shred for 2300 gold is disgusting and im not sure i can be convinced otherwise. It honestly might be the item that gives tanks and their team the largest damage increase out of all of the tank items.

[@milicabojic9434]

Blackfire torch was the Twisted Treeline equivalent of DFG

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@nathanielskinner6868]

There is double audio when you mention Liandrys and Baron pit. :D I was hoping you would have mentioned the ranked changes (although that might have only been in the background and not mentioned in the patch notes). I might be nuts, but it feels like everybody got shoved down a bunch of rank levels.

[@zMacah]

I love ur channel so much, im very happy u released this video! i didnt quite like this new changes and love to hear ur take

[@williamjeferson8788]

It's basically going back to some seasons ago, the items, passives and corki are just the same, kinda hyped ngl

[@abaren730]

I hate the crit item changes. Crit itemization was terrible back then, and the only reason ADC felt more impactful than now was because damage creep has skyrocketed ever since. And it still felt bad back then lol.

[@blakelindemann8672]

Man you are right about time warp tonic, but overall I'm looking forward to the changes

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@jeromefeliciano4611]

Warmogs also got an additional passive. It will give ms when out of combat and also while regenerating after taking dmg like its 10% ms i think? It also have a 12% ms as its stat

[@LexClone5]

PTA Change I think works really well on Renekton. You proc it easily with empowered W, and then you have a hefty damage buff that you can abuse against everyone

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@Darkloid21]

I honestly think that Lethal Tempo being removed is a mistake. It gave a lot of auto champs viability but without it we’re just going back to bursting comps. That and tanks are gonna be super annoying this patch.

[@proliloli2141]

the OCD snowflake department didn't like the red hunter runes and yellow keystones having 4 runes in their row instead of 3

[@NB-eu2zh]

Where did you find the sheet of changes? Did you make it yourself because this reads a lot better then riot patch notes.

[@margarinesnatcher]

My guess on the tenacity nerfs is that their ultimate goal would be to turn tanks back into actual tanks, who don't do a lot of damage but are the best at CC, effectively slowing the game down, which is something I think everyone agrees needs to be done since it's become ridiculous how fast the game is nowadays. My realistic take is that they won't nerf tanks' damage at all because they don't know what they're doing, so they'll still destroy any other class but they'll also be able to CC the fuck out of you even better than before, effectively furthering their complete dominance over the game.

[@baptistecochennec5956]

Slowing down the game... The game has always been fast, tank always had kill pressure on squishy

[@margarinesnatcher]

@@baptistecochennec5956 Tell me you've only played since season 7 without telling me you've only played since seasons 7.

[@baptistecochennec5956]

@@margarinesnatcher tell me you selective memory without telling me you have selective memory (ahem ahem maokai ult)

[@margarinesnatcher]

@@baptistecochennec5956 Go look at footage of Maokai's old ult, that shit didn't do nearly as much damage as your copium-addled brain seems to think, and certainly not as quickly as modern tanks with their basic kit.

[@proliloli2141]

morgana is my favourite tank with her 3 second CC Q

[@Darkcelestrian]

Have to keep in mind that yun tal bleed stacks. So twitch will be hyper op with his r, reksai can also apply the bleed every tick of her e with just the item.

[@abaren730]

I…don’t know what Riot’s doing with these ADC item changes. Like, what even is Yuntal? Why are most crit items completely losing AD? Why is shieldbow even getting nerfed like this? I don’t even like the “extra” 5% crit, partly because several items are losing ALL crit, but mainly because it makes IE and such more poachable and doesn’t do much for actual ADCs. It’s nice, but it ironically means a lot more to someone who has no intention of going more than 1-2 items. Ultimately, I think this rework addresses zero ADC issues, actually makes them worse, and then introduces new ones. ADC itself was fine, the items were fine, and they didn’t even need buffs (which this most definitely isn’t). There’s just way too much damage literally everywhere for a pure dps class to be actually useful. And it’s not just burst damage, although that is still WILDLY out of band.

[@user-xn5ut5pn2h]

Just brainstorming some crazy team comps for the next patch : vayne top, twich jungler, tristana mid, kalista adc and caitlyn support

[@NoneHandle2023]

Ashe Sup seems like it will go well too.

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@jakiii368]

0 bruiser chanches tank nerfs so toplane is gone from impact once again also idk why just berserks get tier 3 upgrade ik phreak said they want to do more upgrades if zephyr gets a lot of play rate but that doesnt make sense they are basicly letting the champs who buy these boots scale better with 100% purpose also they put terminus and bortk into bruiser items for no reason 100% that phreak can say on his patch rundown look we also chanched a lot for bruisers i think a good idea would be if ingenious hunter gets replaced not just removed give back ravenous hunter and tenacity nerfs we dont eaven talk about that because league has wayyyyyyy to much cc on dont forget ghost is getting giganerfed too also for meele champs without a compensation like the reset on kill so its a nerf as well for champs like darius hecarim mundo..... this patch is so terrbile its insanity oh and i forgot another chanche WHY TF SUPPORT MS CREEP ESPECIALLY FOR MARKSMEN

[@faisfaizal5194]

I've already lost hope with riot's balance team when they decided to remove zzrot, just to add hullbreaker later...

[@ThundererR64T]

9:27 i feel liek we need way more items like Merc Scimitar, we don't need 5 items with same stats and different passives, i personally want lots of niche items because for example merc scim is gonna be built by champs that want Lifesteal, are mobile and versing Magic dmg champions, so Riven Fiora things like that, if we didn't have all the items similar and all broken we'd have a way better item system, yes it would make the game even harder for newer player but whatever, deal with it it would be a good upgrade

[@Bsebt]

Its a mix between "hey we kind of listened", "fuck it, let's see if it works" and "nerf/buff ____ , it'll be funny" in my eyes

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@mrdoomman97]

please link the patchnotes somewhere on your videos in the future

[@VarsVerum]

Oh woops my bad! Linked em right now :3

[@BriannaBrockman]

the removal of basically all tenacity the last few years has been egregious and im scared of this patch now LOL

[@emberthecatgirl8796]

“Few balance changes here, we don’t have to worry about them” The balance changes in question: literally reducing the windshitters’ crit by 20%

[@randomvideoboy1]

The game would be so much more fun and interesting if they just added all of the items from Arena. They already have the designs and mechanics, just tweak the numbers.

[@hunterkinsella5303]

I play Oorn, ik gross, but I find it funny how almost every other tank is like "YES! Tenacity be gone! I can stun people forever!", and Im just like: "First time?" 😂

[@SomeoneSomewhere42069]

15:57 I love finding these kinds of moments in videoss lollll

[@siraskalon3793]

I think cash back is actually pretty great. As a support your used to having to cash out asap to get your items like the rest, but you more than anyone are usually responsible for buying red wards. Now you can ensure you can get both after a big buy.

[@gammerman3]

When can I catch those Vars live streams?

[@DyonisX]

15:57 So hypothetically if you're fighting in Baron or Dragon pit

[@calmgentleman]

What I hate about this is the fact that its basically "less tankiness, more ablity haste, less tenacity, more damage" We just, like JUST had several seasons like this and it sucked. Why are we going back to that?

[@yulian545]

Because most popular champions always was assasins even if people hate them

[@yannrobeiri]

7:51 14.10 Essence reaver is nerfed heavily and costs more. Season 14.9 : Unique - Spellblade: After using an ability, your next basic attack on-hit within 10 seconds deals 140% base AD (+ 20% bonus AD) bonus physical damage and restores mana equal to「 40% of that amount 」「 56% base AD (+ 8% bonus AD) 」

[@AkshansYoutubeAccount]

i would like to see more podcast style videos dont mind if its on vars2

[@schnader]

I feel like the overall reduction of Tenacity will be a great change to the game. For the longest time tanks haven't seen a lot of play because bruisers & juggernauts did what they're meant to do but more consistantly while also being a threat. Nerfing tenacity means tanks should actually be able to keep bruisers away instead of them ignoring the tank and rushing at the backline with 600ms. Also it should punish certain divers more as well so diving isn't as free as it currently is. Obviously I mainly play bot/support so I am biased, but making cc relevant again should hopefully result in more interesting teamcomps instead of 3 players on each team buying Sundered Sky & Eclipse and just walking over everyone while being immortal. Diversity in buildpaths for the adc role hasn't existed since they turbonerfed crit many seasons ago, so I'm hopeful this will make crit a more appealing option.

[@arieltabbach4946]

also means some mages wont hard cucked by mercs rush

[@isaiahkern9434]

I feel like the changes are actually pretty good. Since removing a lot of the tenacity also means cc duration should be able to be looked into. So if there is some characters who's cc is too much. It can be toned down without having to consider a 60-70% tenacity garren running at mach 5 to your adc. Because if you tone it down. It means nothing. But if the cc lands on the ADC or Midlaner it means everything.

[@kazeryuu3603]

12:12 He plays YONE! Let's kill him! It's like that old saying "If you can't beat them,, join them"

[@thanhnguyenquoc9762]

No lethal tempo for the abnomition is yone and yasuo any more . Most adc can go with press the attack and fleet instead - which is fine anyway

[@gingeroxide2973]

Hearing about dota 2 embracing cc and seeing a Xin Zhao tank 4 hard cc abilities and moving .2 secs later because they couldn't be staggered since none of the abilities mattered has me intrigued in tenacity nerfs. Hopefully dmg goes down too.

[@melindasteinle-holder9514]

Does the Zephyr boot upgrade count as an additional "tier" for boots? What I am on about is Kalista (martial poise) since I wonder whether it will have an impact on her dash distance

[@srensen3081]

her dash distance scales with move speed no?

[@melindasteinle-holder9514]

@@srensen3081 there is a video out now and my point has been proven. The Zephyr counts as a 3 boot tier and increases Kalistas dash distance (so it doesn't increase with ms even if it seems like it does; it actually just comes down to boot upgrades)

[@demihau]

my replays are corrupted after this patch

[@uribove]

the torch item is a Zyra's wet dream XD they used to run Lyandries + Rylais, when it needed to slow to deal more dmg, then Lyandries and Demonic, now this

[@CoHzus]

Voice reminds me of the smartbored days good times man hope all is well

[@glitchparallax4215]

Twich gonna be a problem in the next 14.10 since he can apply bleed using Yun Tal on Ult as well. He will oneshot the entire team.

[@pengdaw2nd]

Speaking of giving boots upgrades, how do you feel about Wild Rift's system of boot enchants, and I guess their boots in general compared to PC? You can put QSS, Zhonyas, Protobelt, Righteous Glory, Redemption, and a few others + new ones that make Boots worth keeping aside from movement speed and free stats. Not to mention giving Protobelt or Zhonyas to non AP champions like Darius or Jhin, imagine that.

[@nicklasveva]

Another massive problem we are going to have this patch is the katana bros... 2 items for 100% crit chance. Used to be 80%, so you had to make a sacrifice. But now they're going to absolutely dominate.

[@ZeePanzer]

They already had 100% crit chance at two items,

[@nicklasveva]

​@@ZeePanzer I last played league in season 9. And they changed Yasuo's passive in season 11 according to patch notes. So I guess Yasuo needed a buff, since he was so weak. (He has never been weak) Anyways now they're going to change it back to 2x. Right? Right?

[@Reggat]

14:46 V: "True damage is not quite as common" Fiora, Darius, Gangplank, Master Yi, etc: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@skywalkerjohn8965]

They are approaching WR boots territory

[@kynkatan8871]

I can see a sejuani build with warmhogs/heartsteel + bloodmail + titanic hydra and just one tapping squishy people in 1 rotation. She scales hard with HP.

[@dracotoy]

i always love old corkis passive, but its gonna suck that ap corki is gone

[@soulcleave2386]

they need to just make time warp tonic work on elixers. you finish a legendary item? here have an elixir, it also gives 10% mroe stats or something

[@Korhi]

The adc and rune changes are scary, and the tenacity and boot changes are frustrating, but I am really glad as a Morg jungle enjoyer that she doesn't need to build tear or some other item she doesn't want for Mana anymore. Liandrys getting reverted to it's old state pre mythic items definitely hit Morg jungle hard and the new torch item brings her way back up to speed and this pleases me. Also it means Karthus and a ton of other champions like him will have to choose between Malignance and Blackfire, which is good, even though I think Malignance should be looked at instead.

[@simedinson984]

The main issue fpr adcs atm is that any type of armor makes you deal 0 dmg unless you get ldr, kraken does nothing atm as it doesnt do true dmg.

[@adamminecraft6970]

can't wait for fighting boots of swiftness, slingshot, fleet footwork range top. very Fun

[@ilmertoh6910]

I am still kinda on the fence with this update. I don't trust Riot "We don't want bruisers to build lethality so let's nerf bruiser items (TWICE)" Balancing Team, but let's see how this one goes in 2 weeks ig

[@InstantSilence]

The problem with covering these pbe changes from 4/30 is that a lot of it has already changed since then. A lot of information in this video is outdated and will still be changing in the next week.

[@ShadowNavi82]

Rip smolder all his items got changed into things he doesnt want

[@serafinw105r2f]

So, we going back to zeal + bf sword start on adcs?

[@math693]

Warmogs is a great anti split item for tanks. Most splitters will outsustain and shred tanks. With warmogs you can match the splitters sustain. Its good that they reduced the regen since its a redundant stat on the warmogs since the passive completely blasts the regen. With more base hp instead you are able to reach the threshold to proc the passive at a reasonable timing. They should however completely remove the rejuv bead from the build path. Even tho 100% is less redunant than 200% its still 300 gold wasted for a stat does nothing compared to the passive of the completed warmogs. They should remove the bead and reduve price by 300. Suddenly tanks have a really good anti split item. It basically does what anathemas was meant to do.

[@acony762]

What is that background music? its so calming

[@Pentagram666mar]

The amount of late game buffs to adc will make late game be focused around two flips: either you flip on elder or you flip who's gonna kill oponent's adc first

[@Wildcat12]

I wish they'd removed the Armor Pen unique tag from Cleaver. Being able to buy Cleaver 5th item and sacrifice 100% crit for survivability and consistency felt great, would've felt amazing with these changes allowing 100% crit at 4 items.

[@karsonkammerzell6955]

Cash Back seems to easily give enough gold to get a Legendary + potion or control ward. Doesn't seem too bad. There are many situations where it could even give you enough to get started with another component as well. The Time Warp Tonic I think might be getting slept on. I know most people don't buy potions past a certain point, but I think that's more systemic of the player-base deciding it isn't worth it rather than any hard data proving otherwise. I've seen several coaches and Challenger's actually suggest buying one with leftover change (hello, Cash Back!) to help swing upcoming fights or high probability 1v1s. Overheal was honestly slept on. I know people swear it never did anything but every single game I took it into while I could never visually see it doing work, the stats after the game would always show it blocking 1500-2000 (sometimes 3000) damage throughout the match. Definitely an out of sight out of mind contribution and one you're likely not to notice over Triumph if you play a lot of divers and such.

[@GiRR007]

Hate the removal of lethal tempo, it is LITERALLY the most fun rune in the game. Remove fleet foot work or something, its practically usless.

[@SomeoneSomewhere42069]

Anathema's, I've only ever seen, EVER, in like 4 games. Warmog's is an item that I ONLY build SOMETIMES in ARAM. You don't wanna rush it first item because the passive wont work yet, and by the time you got the second item, it's usually time to group anyways, so I've not found it not super useful. Yea man! Legend Tenacity was kinda invaluable in alot of games 😅 I feel like, if they're gonna just straight up get rid of that rune, they should compensate for it somewhere else.. not TAKE AWAY MORE from somewhere else (merc's) 😅

[@kaito0179]

Can you maybe do a video about if conventional ADCs are dying? Or actually now that I think about it if league should revert to classic role identities?

[@putin2012]

Torch is gonna be a very decent item for Fidlesticks. You Ult enemy team and get +20% AP for all ticks of ult after initial + burn on top.

[@bencesipos1142]

Thank Lord that tenacity is nerfed, as an Ashe, your slow was worthless against a class, that your champ was designed to take down. And generally, I despised that no amount of cc was enough to peel.

[@thomasb5307]

Ok but tenacity doesn't work against Ashe slow, because it only reduces slow duration but Ashe re-apply it very frequently anyway. However the nerf on switfies will benefit Ashe a lot more

[@julianarias8960]

The fact that black fire is in the game now will help a lot Seraphine, playing her full ap with the current items feels a little odd (at least for me) With this I’ll be so much fun with her team fighting

[@Juria1987]

Oh look all that Tenacity is gone....and now there is very little left (watches Morgana, Veigar, Senna, Lux, Xerath, Brand, and any other champ with a fairly long CC or CC chains rub their hands together and grin) Uuggghhhhhh...I play ARAM over SR...this is gonna sssuuucccckkk. But even in SR that gonna suck cause now even longer time pinned in place to get blown to pieces...just why...

[@shanegeiser3914]

I think the fact that adcs cant build ad, attack speed, and crit all in one item is gonna be a big deal for their first item purchase. No lethal tempo means most will need AS early but then they will have no ad or no crit.

[@sceadumor]

They're returning ADC items back to when I really enjoyed ADC items so I'm HYPED