THE MOST STUPID CABIN WE’VE EVER STAYED IN!

[@Cruisewith]

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[@bodyloverz30]

I was on the Maiden Voyage, this is the overall worst ship, out of my 45 voyages.

[@sundaibarahonalawrence6250]

I'm a 71 year old black woman who is absolutely in love with you two. David is quite dapper and Ben's comments that don't make sense but are funny keep me entertained I have a terminal illness and you bring me joy. Keep on cruising!

[@nitapita9988]

And you keeping laughing loving and enjoying 🙏🏼💕❤️👍🎏

[@CatatonicCat-y6g]

I hope you are feeling ok. Sending prayers for your journey!

[@karilearned82]

Earlier this year I booked a cruise on this ship and cancelled because of the bizarre design. After seeing your video, I am SO thankful I didn’t waste our money! Thank you for your honest review. Hopefully NCL compensated you in some way. 💖

[@SoldbySandyTeam]

Omg that is horrile

[@gigi9301]

Hopefully you found a different/better option for a vacation. I appreciate these honest reviews and can say that at least they had each other to lean on and go through it all with, no matter how difficult the circumstances.

[@dawnturner8735]

The NCL Breakaway and Getaway are really nice ships. 😀

[@lisafoster7018]

Me too! I booked then researched, called my travel agent, and changed to another ship and dates. Thank goodness!!

[@elizabethbuck6753]

What you don't say is if you asked to be moved?

[@ErinK-o3q]

If I were in the hierarchy of management for Norwegian, I'd feel absolutely mortified that this was the level of product and service I was providing under my brand. So shameful. But yet you make it comedic! So laughing and crying along with you!

[@emman6941]

Norwegian.absolutely SHOULD be mortified. The prices they are charging these days are scandalous, and they have cut stuff out. It's very obvious that they are trying to recoup losses since covid. There will come a time when people will vote with their feet

[@bryantsteury8910]

This is a 30$/night grade hostel for a room. If someone said I had a room this size on a train across the country then I’d not be horrified

[@MrSkosig]

I can’t afford a cruse but I’ve always been curious as to why so many people love it? Maybe if you have loads of money for a state room 😂 but it’s still a floating block of flats to me .good luck guys 👍😘

[@dd-dd2co]

Separate toilet and wash basin concept is just one of the dumbest ideas in human history.

[@Caocao8888]

Seeing is believing what a horrible little space it is! 🤢

[@robertm.4916]

I’m getting on the Epic tomorrow and I’m already pissed. NCL should thank you for your polite video because after what I’m seeing they will absolutely hate mine.

[@mjohnson8472]

Enjoy it. I think they got a bad wrap.

[@jencraw1924]

The epic is a one off. No other ship is like it and it’s a complete disaster ncl was supposed to build 3 and they quit halfway the second one. It’s not representative of the fleet but what is representative is that ncl hasn’t cut their losses and trashed this ship.

[@Anasteroiddestroyer]

The idea of handling a curtain that people touched after 💩 and before washing their hands 😬😢🤮

[@courtheath5138]

Ewww seriously. I had not thought of that.

[@cactuskid1492]

Literally a poop curtain 😂

[@bethelaine5821]

Ewwwwwww🤮

[@anamarianunez1563]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@Bjaakola]

I thought exactly that, as well.

[@ISABLK-oo7nz]

I laughed so hard, I cried. David and the poop curtain and the little balcony table for breakfast were the funniest. I just can't imagine 10 days in that room--even with just a girl/boyfrien, husband/wife. You can't even get privacy in the shower. Thank you for the TRUTH when you sail and keep up the great work!

[@gerifarrell2585]

Just came here to say this! It's shameful how badly cared for the NCL Epic is really.

[@brunogabrione8639]

So did I, I’m still laughing 🤣🤣🤣

[@susanhall7737]

If this is what they offer paying customers, can you just imagine how abysmal the crews' quarters must be?

[@PortsladeBySea]

I feel sorry for the crew who have to work on the ship and cope with all the complaints from passengers day, after day, which must be extremely frustrating and depressing ☹️

[@kathyconlon6593]

I love you both you guys are so funny I feel for you both spending so much and the stateroom so awful I've never cruised on any other ship but Disney the ships I've seen are just too big I love your videos you both make them so interesting and funny keep up the good work can't wait see what's next 😊

[@isabellindlind]

@@PortsladeBySea Oh, I know! I've only taken one cruise and it was beautiful and the crew members were fantastic and they work so hard and are away from their loved ones for extended periods of time that they have enough work w/o having to take on matters beyond their control. I thought it was always very sweet when the crew would show pictures of their families when we asked about their own lives. They deserve to be recognized for the work that they do.

[@supkirsten]

😢😢😢

[@GillianCarton-rd1wo]

I'm gobsmacked by that horrible cabin. Those little cupboards remind me of a 60s caravan. David, I was in hysterics when you sat on the sofa and you're looking at the wardrobe. Great video guys, definitely a ship to be avoided 😮

[@carolemukhtar8108]

I'm lonely 68 never been in cruse

[@carolemukhtar8108]

Can you advise me which I should go on

[@SmilerORocker]

There's something very weird about your comment Gillian.... as I was scrolling, the emoji at the end kept changing!!... very weird, never seen that happen before 👍🇮🇪

[@Feinics]

I've never cruised before. I came across your channel awhile ago and was hooked 😁 So now, at 61 years old, I'm saving for a cruise in 2026 to celebrate being in remission from Cancer. Haven't chosen one yet but am so glad to be able to come here and get decent and honest reviews 🙂 If I ended up on that tub I would gutted because it'll take me saving from now through the next year and a bit to gather up the money! Thanks guys, love you both ❤️❤️

[@Traveler-nu8xc]

Best wishes, as a fellow survivor, I hope you get to take your trip

[@Princess_Gengar]

Congrats of the remission! enjoy your cruise when you decide on one :)

[@kimnisley2957]

Congratulations as well. I would think about Virgin cruises. The rooms look good and sounds like all the food is included in the price. I hope you’re able to go and have a fabulous time.

[@sunburn1013]

More power to you and I hope you have a brilliant time on the cruise that you choose

[@jogafurkelly343]

Best wishes for your recovery ❤ Having taken 17 Caribbean cruises, I have never been disappointed in the Princess ships. I have been on Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Holland America, Celebrity but mostly the Princess ships.

[@joeseatac331]

EPIC FAILURE. Thanks for taking one for the team.

[@beezo.]

This cabin is pure hell. I would demand some form of reimbursement.

[@PortsladeBySea]

They might insist you go back onboard the ship 🫢☹️😥

[@MaryGolden-m9h]

I commented on the Epic on your previous post. When Epic was new, they didn’t even have the curtain by the bathroom. It was added about a year later because we folks from the US complained about the see-through doors and opening at the top that revealed all of the smells and sounds to your cabin mates. The rumor was going around that Europeans wouldn’t be as prudish about it as we were. It’s nice to see that you two feel the same way. When we were on her at least it was cleaner and functional because she was still new. We went on it to see the Blue Man Group. I think once they discontinued that show there was no reason to put up with that bathroom. And I was traveling with one of my brothers. As embarrassing as that was, it was still not as bad as it would have been with friends. But you guys were cracking me up while you were showing all of the drawbacks.

[@Linda-w3o3s]

I do not think it is prudish I think it is a case of hygiene and comfort. I would never travel on this ship. How did it pass the ships inspection. The whole ship is filthy

[@marsham333]

The best of the cruise channels. It is refreshing to see the real thing. No BS “fake influencer” reviews. Thank you. I believe when this ship came out I looked at the floor plan of the cabins, I knew it was designed by someone who thought they would redesign the entire cruise industry. So glad that did not happen. Cheers, guys!

[@BethR-ti6mj]

Best comment ever "this is a tv that should be in a museum"....nice one David!

[@karmaslug]

I sailed on this ship with my family. I used the public restrooms a few floors down whenever I had to do my business.

[@marias902]

Horrible that you had to do that! Unbelievable.

[@yhave1ne]

So although this cabin design almost makes it mandatory, I usually do this anyway - Just my anal need to always exercise toilet etiquette 😂

[@hemacdonald400]

I am so pleased to hear you stick up for the crew. I will never understand how these cruise lines delegate so many cabins to the stewards. I always feel so badly for them. This was a real eye opener, what an awful cabin on this cruise, ill-designed, worn out and not clean. I think you are both calling out what needs to be called out. You never have a malicious tone, you are just showing your viewers what is good value and what is not. Keep it up, you are doing a great service.

[@frankyoung3626]

We were on the Epic several years ago and HATED everything about the cabin design. Hated the bathroom, the curved bed, the curved wall…vowed never again! I feel your pain. The good news is that the Epic is one of a kind. The ship was built to a “unique” spec by a French shipyard and after all the negative feedback NCL canceled future orders.

[@ksandhoff1]

yes I agree complete PO s

[@sardi114]

With all the negative feedback, they should take it out of commission! The state of disrepair itself is deplorable, let alone the ridiculously bad design.

[@rberks5]

Epic's sister ships were canceled before the ship was even launched. They were canceled due to a dispute with the ship builder. The other ships were canceled in 2008 and Epic was launched in 2010.

[@biancabee7900]

Omg David testing the toilet out was hilarious 😂😂😂😂

[@annterry9194]

My sister and I sailed transatlantic, Barcelona to Miami, in 2012. It was our first and last NCL cruise. This was mainly down to the ridiculous cabin design and the amount of up selling. We have now cruised on several different ships and cruise lines and the Epic remains our worst cruise ever! When we travelled on her things were new and I believe the cabin design had won prizes, though how they managed that I cannot imagine. How NCL can today charge $500 a night for a cabin in that state is criminal. Thank you lads for another great video.

[@Natalie2000]

Thanks for making me almost spit my breakfast this morning, with all the potty talk!! ☠️🤣 David behind the "toilet curtain" I almost died!! 🤣 The last and only NCL cruise we took was the jewel and every hallway smelled like poop💩💩!! I've NEVER laughed so hard, through one of your episodes! When David said he was willing to swim to MSC, that was it 🤦☠️☠️🤣🤣 Thanks for making my day ❤️🤣

[@rhondaross3024]

We were on the Epic last November and the ship conditions were deplorable then too! NCL should be ashamed of themselves. We contacted NCL and as you can see they’ve done nothing.

[@beckymungo1333]

Maybe the Epic should put this ship needs a dry dock visit for about 1 year and revamp the whole ship. And use some soap and disinfectant, and paint.

[@Cruisewith]

They are useless, I got a bad 2nd degree burn from a faulty steam room last year, we complained though email. They ignored every one, never replied.

[@cherdav22]

Hi Ben and David - It is 5a.m in Australia and I just finished watching your appraisal of your cabin. Sorry if it wasn’t made as a comedy video, but it is the funniest one I have ever seen. I actually spat out my coffee twice and when I listened to the interpretation of bathroom noises I nearly choked. That cabin was a disaster and NCL should really sell or scrap that ship - or at least provide room freshener. It is truly EPIC!!! So are the costs in “the cabin from hell”. OMG. ❤️❤️

[@MarkPerrenjones]

@@Cruisewith I remember watching that video

[@SharonPerson-hm9ds]

​@@Cruisewith- I love your videos, and I'm sorry that you were subjected to the result of the design team losing a bet to some drunk administrator who thought this room layout was a good idea. 🍻🍸🥂🍷🍾🤪 Apparently complaints on a company's social media pages (in any industry), are more effective now in getting results than an e-mail, which may only be seen by one or two people at the company offices. Their social media pages, however, are viewed by hundreds, or possibly, thousands of people. Even if the company never responds directly to you, at least other people are forewarned about the issues that you faced.

[@austinbrown1855]

You guys are spot on, we were on this in August this year, and it has scarred us for life, we also had a balcony room, but on level 10 , and ours was in the same state as yours with the constant smell of sewerage inside and outside the room. Thanks for such an honest review, people, listen to them, and book another cruise.

[@pamelabottino9293]

We were on the Epic in a balcony stateroom back in 2017 and it’s sad to see that the rooms have not been updated. It was by far, the WORST Room we have ever been in and we have been on 15 cruises. Who wants to sit on the end of the bed to brush their teeth, never mind the whole bathroom layout ! I left a very honest and unfavorable review on Cruise Critic after being on this ship, and saw many other bad reviews of this ship, but obviously none of the NCL executives care. I will never go on this ship again!!

[@taunichurchill4633]

We were on a cruise with them in 2017 too. The first thing I noticed was the bathroom, I said good thing were a couple, but still most people like their privacy. The best thing about the cruise was the Beatles cover band

[@KristenS103]

We also sailed on the epic in 2017- for our honeymoon! In an effort to “not kill the romance” my hubby went to the public bathroom by the elevator for all of his #2s! 😂

[@berniefong4784]

On 2011 when I cruised on the Epic, I actually wrote to Cruise Travel Magazine and titled it “NCL Epic is an epic disappointment “. This is when the ship was new! Whomever designed the cabins should be forced to live in it for 30 days with 3 other strangers! Now it is 1000% worse. Thanks for your posts Ben & David. Always enjoy your KZbin videos. Take care. B

[@DB-zp9un]

It's called the French.

[@arknfrogontheroadoflife4501]

This is the best video y’all have ever made. I hate the condition of this ship. Shameful. But when David went in behind the poop curtain my husband seriously LOL. Keep it up guys!!!

[@natashalanghein1282]

I would literally die with that as a bathroom. I initially thought you tube selected one of your older videos and this was an April Fools joke. I would die of shock with that bathroom, but you both had me in fits of laughter (laugh out loud, tears in my eyes) showing the absurdity of this.

[@L8BLUUMR]

I would never take a cruise but I just love watching you two have fun. I am sorry about this crappy ship. I have to admit I giggled through your room tour.

[@gnrands50]

Thank you, B&D, for another honest review. This was disappointing, but not surprising. We cruised on the Epic in 2016 and were also mystified by the bizarre cabin layout. It is sad that NCL seems to have given up on maintaining this ship. I'm glad you didn't blame your cabin steward. On our last NCL cruise, our steward admitted that he had to clean 22 cabins every day. Assume a minimum of a half hour to vacuum, change sheets, clean bathroom, etc. and this poor guy was hustling 11 hours a day! I hope Norwegian rolls back the employee workload now that we are out of the pandemic.

[@PortsladeBySea]

To reduce costs soon the cabin stewards will soon have to look after 30 cabins each, possibly more. It’s currently under consideration by senior management 🥵😥☹️

[@happycruiser]

The product of an architect's night out with the lads.

[@alisong2328]

They were trying to make these cabins like Frank Gehry's Museum of Modern Art in Bilbao.😅

[@sarahw-k]

😱 I’m in shock! This cabin and ship is atrocious! I was yelling at y’all to put on socks in the cabin because I was worried you would get a fungal infection 🤢 or tetanus with all that rust! I feel so sorry for you both but y’all made me laugh so much at this video! Thank you for being absolutely a joy to watch! 🤗

[@janncarr9208]

I kept thinking where are their shower shoes!

[@joanne_luvsdisney534]

I always wear flip flops in cabins or hotel rooms 👍🏼

[@terryk1260]

💯 on socks or slippers! Ughhh.

[@jamiebenedict7915]

I was thinking of booking this trip because of the awesome itinerary…..SO glad I watch you guys religiously. This ship is a dump and the rooms are ridiculous. What a shame. Huge thanks for showing the good, bad and ugly so we can make informed decisions about where we spend our hard earned money. Much love!

[@Lisa-je5bb]

If you want to go to greece,try celestyal cruise line

[@catherinewhite8819]

Tip for the laundry bag, I always fold everything as flat as I can to get as much in as possible. The cabin stewards were amazed that my one bag came back as two and a half. I like to get my moneys worth!

[@pumpkinpurrs1]

6:30 What a crazy good coincidence. Poor lads, if this was one of their first cruises we'd never have Ben and David!

[@brennarizzardi135]

I was coming home sick from cruises, so I decided to be proactive. I now do sanitize all the surfaces when I enter my cabin, and that has worked for my last four cruises. I know that they only have time for superficial cleaning between passengers and a lot of people don’t have the same standards of cleanliness. And I also clean any areas where I am going to store my belongings. I’m don’t think I have OCD, but I don’t want to stop cruising and I have reached the age when getting sick can have dangerous consequences. Happy cruising!

[@GygaxGirl]

Great idea. What do you use to clean? How do you get it through tsa? Thanks

[@jblkcns]

We have a cleaning pack that we just throw in the bag each trip. I use the small travel cube.

[@kikibleu2302]

I do the same thing and I’m not a germaphobe. I take A small can of Lysol spray and anti bacterial wipes. I spray down everything as soon as I get in the cabin and spray everything down once a day.

[@cherdav22]

@@brennarizzardi135 Did you know that the dirtiest thing in a cabin is the tv remote. Second is the phone. Studies have been done on this. So these are the first things I clean with wipes. I’ll bet that the cabin steward doesn’t have time to do this. Just a thought to pass on - and I’m no germaphobe.

[@pilarq7886]

​@@cherdav22plastic gloves to clean remote with packaged alcohol wipes, then put remote inside zip lock bag and use it like that. I would use plastic gloves and mask to clean room, I bet storage area never get cleaned. Previous people could put in storage area wet swimsuits forgotten =mildew, baby clothes feces accidents and never cleaned-sanitized why next passengers get sick

[@geovanniinusa5973]

The sink backsplash reminds me of my grade school bathroom along with that soap dispenser. Unfortunately, it was 50 years ago that I was in grade school. NCL really thought that cabin design through since you can sit on the couch and watch the wardrobe.

[@Diane-s5g]

Can you imagine getting stuck in that cabin under quarantine during the pandemic. And it could have been five people. What on earth is NCL thinking by keeping this ship in their fleet. Horrific!

[@Yahooice]

You should get your money back! That ship is a disgrace!

[@DeviousFink]

Norwegian should issue a public apology and immediately pull this travesty from service!

[@cherylemmanuel744]

@@DeviousFink I have only seen a few minutes of this and completely agree! Disgraceful and I am glad you are OK!

[@Stacia-ep9vr]

The sad part is, NCL does know about the rust, salt crust, dust in cabins, smells, and lack of enough crew to keep up maintenance and daily service. If they cared, it would not be happening. They are making money and not using their capital for older ship maintenance. Sorry, some businesses are just profit column kinda companies. :[

[@dawnbellerive4717]

I applaud you for staying on that ship, if my husband had gotten on that ship, he would have walked off, he wouldn't have accepted that that room.

[@X0awsome]

I don't even want to think about the mold collecting in the entryway carpet. It gets wet daily and likely never fully dries in between shower dousings.

[@tulaandtherabbittadventure19]

So our experience. We hated our cruise and cabin on the epic. We made it work but would never pay or go for free on the epic again. But love the comedy you both do. Never change

[@hrizonsdebbie]

I sailed in a balcony on Epic twice pre-pandemic. One was with a friend and she ended up with a stomach bug. Not a great cabin for two, especially if you're not in a couple. The second time was with my now husband. They inexplicably gave us a disability cabin. We felt terrible and asked to swap but they said nobody had requested it. It was great! Very different layout. Lots of room since it was designed for wheelchairs.

[@christinehulick9875]

You had us in hysterics because we were just as horrified about 8 years ago on the same ship! You at least had light over your sink, my husband cut himself shaving because he couldn’t see - our light was no brighter than a tiny night light! The cabin wasn’t as worn at that point and we had a great time due to the people we met, but it was RIDICULOUS! Someone told us that they had planned to build 2-3 more just like it, but didn’t - thank God!

[@gwynethglas-brown9171]

OMG thats horrific 😮 it needs to be totally Stripped in Dry-dock and Remade . Nothing worse than Sewage small🤢to add the smoking ,burning oil . Does surprise me that Norwegian cruse line still let her Sail ,with the huge amount of things that are wrong or needing emergencies attention 🤷‍♀️.yes i get it Money 🤔. You sure visited some lovely ports 😊 .thank you for taking us along was very interesting 😅 Have a lovely Evening 🥰

[@sharyn7454]

How awful, I’d want my money back. It’s like a 1 star or less hotel. Thanks for taking one for the team.

[@geridelaney3926]

I sailed on this ship when it was relatively new. I was with my 2 high school age kids, a boy and a girl. It was miserable in the cabin even when the ship was new. I haven’t been on Norwegian since.

[@PortsladeBySea]

We went on NCL once and must admit that was one trip too many for us. The worst feature was the main buffet restaurant which was absolutely jam-packed. I felt sorry for the poor staff who had to cope with all the complaints 😥🤬☹️

[@michellebartlett2438]

I love when Ben and David have bad experiences because of how funny they are! The Margaritaville ship, the dilapidated carnival ship that was crumbling as it sailed, and now this! 😂😂😂

[@CarolMortensen-e2b]

I was thinking the same thing when David said he was appreciating being out of the cabin as he enjoyed his coffee in Olympia. With that bathroom in the cabin, I would be inclined to use the public restrooms on the ship whenever possible to keep from adding more odors to the cabin. Great video. Thanks.

[@dmiller5765]

It's a good idea, but it's sad that's the best solution for $500 per night cabin. 😢

[@jameshamm7911]

"Epic" fail! lol (BTW: loved the "No Ben's were harmed in the making" thing. :-)

[@jackredmond6023]

They need to make a reef out of that ship! Unbelievable! Epic! 😂

[@deborahhymer9315]

It might not be fit to make a reef. Lol

[@Jimmie2429]

Crustaceans wouldn't even crawl into that commode.

[@jackredmond6023]

@@Jimmie2429 😂

[@salsanacho]

At some point, there was an interior designer who said to himself "we definitely need to design this such that the bathroom flows into the room." and somehow got it approved by everyone involved with this ship. Did no one question whether this was a good idea? Edit: also, If the guest areas are in this state, makes me wonder what the crew areas looks like.

[@Lisa-je5bb]

It's called Feng shui..lol

[@jen389lethbr]

I heard this ship was designed for another cruise company who couldn’t pay for it so NCL bought it hence the weird layout which is not an NCL standard. When I sailed on this with my sister we also had the spa so never showered in the room, only in the spa. I cannot believe the condition of the public spaces. Time to dock the Epic and call it a day!

[@Ultra1997DM.]

Looks like a complete shithole to be fair .

[@gc7820]

Dock it? Better to sink it by the look of it!

[@jen389lethbr]

@@gc7820 you might be right! LOL

[@sarahann4007]

Hmm I hadn’t heard that, I had thought NCL built the Epic. They did buy Sun and Sky from Costa though.

[@sarahann4007]

I must say, maybe NCL has a major facelift up their sleeve, look at the Spirit and that massive renovation.

[@jabbathehut656]

Norwegian Cruises should be ashamed about this, but you just know they wont give a toss. Brilliant review as always.

[@jeffmcallister7040]

It's amazing that such a respected company like NCL let this type of arrangement happen. Now everyone knows where they got their ideas for solo cabins. That's about what this cabin is good for. Maybe when they finally do a refresh these will be updated. It can't happen to soon.

[@kimnisley2957]

I’d scrap the entire ship. Sounds like none of the crew are happy at all.

[@bettyparker3317]

OTOH, I travel solo a lot. I would *never* tolerate these conditions, especially the cleanliness, anywhere. Not. Happening. The design alone would have me moving after one night. But on a cruise, we don’t get that alternative.

[@ksandhoff1]

@@bettyparker3317 well. you could request the dingy LOL

[@nicholew8489]

On the newest ships they've put the toilet and shower behind a glass wall even in the studio cabins (which are fine for a solo on a week or less trip). I can't see the studios being very popular now that they've got the solo rates on regular cabins, so I think the next generation won't have them.

[@debbiec4126]

Good grief, guys! That is AWFUL! I have not sailed Norwegian...don't think I will.

[@catherinewhite8819]

Other NCL ships are fine, we did Pearl and Jade before we sailed on Epic in 2012 when it was a couple of years old.

[@ryanbridger6797]

We stayed on the Epic a few years ago and yes I agree with this assessment .

[@Ted_K_Have_a_nice_day]

Aside from the Clorox wipes, I think you need to add a black light to your arsenal. It could be entertaining seeing beyond what the naked eye can detect!

[@dzonikg]

SOme things are better not to be seen

[@atomicrancher3745]

No! Never use a black light in your hotel room or ship cabin. You’ll regret it and may not sleep at night. Believe me, there are things you don’t want to know.

[@judieszydlowski4608]

I was on the Epic a few years ago, and I love the look I get when I tell people the cabins don't have bathrooms.

[@96evoharley]

Right, but I'd tell people that the cabin was a bathroom with a bed!

[@Cruisetravelenjoy]

We absolutely love your channel and this has to be one of the funniest vlogs to watch about the cabin. Honest and hysterical, thanks guys, you made our evening watching this! 😂👍

[@marywells6546]

I got an idea ! Empty the ship and sink it to the bottom of the ocean and let the fish have a home. An instant man made coral reef !! Better than humans staying in it !!

[@alisong2328]

Or turn it into a cargo ship or ferry!

[@ksandhoff1]

@@alisong2328 or maybe a migrant ship to nowhere ??

[@claudiajrn4101]

I was on the Epic and knew about the the strange design, so I made sure my NCL cruisse consultant booked us a room where the bed was near the balcony and the couch was near the bathroom and entrance. It worked out great and made more sense. So when you walked in past the split bathroom you had your sink, closets couch, desk etc first which created more room and gave you more space for getting ready.

[@queenbee4427]

We were 22 days in this living hell in April- May. We could not stop saying to each other...."And we PAID for this"!!!!!!! Cruised 30+ times on all other lines this was our first NCL and due to this horror ship we would NEVER CRUISE NCL AGAIN!!!!!!😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@traceybartlam7737]

You deserve a refund! I’m so shocked at the state of this ship,it’s appalling

[@doc2w534]

Sorry that was your experience. Seasoned NCL cruisers know to avoid Epic. Some avoid Pride because of its quirkiness. NCL is a really good line with the exception of Epic. Even the older ships have much better. I particularly love the Jewel class for the large showers and Breakaway+ for the Waterfront. I really wish NCL would take the hit and dispose of Epic.

[@ashleishcousino]

@@doc2w534I would also recommend avoiding the joy as well, tho not as tragic as epic, it deff lacks the typical ncl atmosphere because it was built for an Asian market

[@cherylemmanuel744]

@@doc2w534 See, the to me that this ship is an EPIC failure!

[@janeleslie4192]

Oh no, I thought Ben and David’s was bad for 10 days but 22😮. So sorry.

[@LoriMyers-j1t]

I would be LIVID if I spent my very hard-earned money on that filthy ship. Thank you for sharing you experience!

[@keltaruusutravels4024]

It would be my worse nightmare. 😢

[@KelliMcCartney]

I can not stop laughing. I almost booked this exact same cruise ship. Then I watched a room tour and said “No way!” As soon as I saw your video title I knew which ship you were talking about. 😂

[@chrissandblast5010]

This is why I always cruise on Holland America. Yes, I’m a cruise snob and I’ll only cruise HAL.

[@lisarodriguez194]

Yes, my hubby and I celebrated our 15th anniversary on the nieuw Amsterdam in 2014, and on the NCL Getaway last summer for our 25th. The difference in the quality of our experience between the 2 companies was astounding. Every single aspect of our trip with Holland America was so much better- from the food to the service. On HAL, the people couldn’t do enough for you to make you happy. On NCL, it seemed like the upper level people in customer service positions couldn’t have cared less about the customer experience. The people who were doing the toughest jobs were so sweet, but it was so obvious that they were absolutely overworked and underpaid. There were so many problems onboard that I’m not sure that I will ever want to sail with them again. Upon our return, I immediately applied for a Holland America credit card, so I can start earning “miles” to go on my next cruise with them! 🛳️🚢

[@theaadcock5743]

I always Put a plastic trash bag inside the paper bag for laundry. Keep it from ripping and you can smash more clothes into the bag

[@amberanthony883]

I was going to say this. I also roll each item as tight as a doobie and slide things into the plastic bag inside the paper.

[@breadroomghost8764]

That’s BRILLIANT, thank you!

[@george3ajijic]

Excellent idea!!

[@lynnleipold2617]

Thanks!

[@Cruisewith]

Thank you so much for your support

[@azrich2463]

If you look at the overall design of the cabin, you'll see eccentric curves everywhere. When I was on Epic in 2015, even the bed was round! I once watched the steward change the bedding, astonished at how it was done with great extra effort. I guess they eventually figured out that square was more efficient.

[@danielintheantipodes6741]

It looked really bad to put it mildly! Okay if it was cheap, but not at the price you paid. Imagine having saved for years to go on a cruise, which is true for a lot of people and ending up in there! Thank you for the video!

[@kimnisley2957]

Yep

[@brodieellis2545]

That cabin is a show from a comedy series. I couldn’t stop laughing!

[@alisong2328]

I agree! 😂😂

[@buckstricland737]

I spent a week with family on this ship, though it was 2 plus years ago. The rooms sucked then. Never have I seen a bathroom like this only saving grace was we got an interior room across the hall for our kids. So we #2 over there and in public bathrooms

[@60Airflyte]

Horrible. And them ignoring the smokers next door tells you the attitude of not caring is in every department and comes from the top.

[@randa200771]

Fire is the most dangerous and feared thing on any ship. If the really can not be bothered with illegal smoking then what does that say about their attitude towards ship safety ?

[@60Airflyte]

@@randa200771 exactly.

[@courtheath5138]

I had to take a trip to “the curtain “ because I almost peed in my pants watching them get “crunk”… They were NOT holding back today. THIS IS THE FUNNIEST VIDEO YET. The Cruise Line should have known to never get two expressive males “turnt” like this! Best viewing on the internet. Can’t wait to see if their “turnt knob” has higher settings. I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!

[@joleighva]

Seeing everything wrong in the passenger areas of the ship makes me question what all is wrong in the essential areas of the ship! And they put this ship on one of the most bucket list cruises that most people save their entire lives to go on! Because they know it’s the only way to sell it. Shame on NCL! Just knowing that they would do this to passengers means I will never sail NCL! Ever! Thank you guys For showing the truth to people. You will save so many people from ruining their cruises!

[@PatStefiuk]

This is why I sail Holland America, thanks for showing me another cruise line so I can definitely appreciate the comfort of HA❤

[@DeviousFink]

This was nothing like what I imagined when you alluded to it last week. This is SO MUCH WORSE!

[@maryann1907]

We were on the Epic for 11 days in May of 2023. It really is this bad. The no one could sit comfortably on the curved sofa. The bed is very strange. My husband is 5 ft 7 in and his feet were hanging out over the edge. It has a great itinerary but not worth all the negatives.

[@chesterarenas]

This is so ridiculous! I'm speechless! WTF! Thank you for this content!

[@sherholubowich9627]

Agree!!

[@crazylady61]

I just love you guys....another humorous but informative video...Thank You!

[@lorigrimaldi194]

That bathroom configuration is the reason I will never sail on the Epic

[@stevedaigle8092]

Thank you for the honest review! We will gladly steer clear of this ship!

[@TheGalCantHelpIt]

That cabin layout is something else - someone somewhere ok'ed the idea of installing poop curtains and were probably given a raise by NCL executives for their ingenuity. A mind-blowingly awful concept, glad you survived the ordeal. Also, thanks for addressing cruising and its use of plastics. Would love to hear more about this topic from cruisers.

[@lakmack]

Lordy, if for no other reason, this cruise is so horrifying that it is very entertaining to watch the review of this hell-ship. Thank you for taking one for all of us B&D so we don't have to!

[@jennynowicki]

The only time I became really ill on a cruise was on Norwegian. The bathroom smelled like vomit. I was miserable. It was very traumatizing.

[@amberanthony883]

You have outdone yourself with this video. Priceless comments. I saw Emma talk about this room and she was traveling with her brother. She was not impressed either. The city of Olympia looks fascinating. Great news on the bus and navigating the coffee possibilities. Cruise on!!!

[@smileycindymarie]

That poop curtain bit was hilarious!! 💩

[@BirdsNNVA]

“It blocks all sounds - and noises as well!”

[@monadking2761]

We have a cruise coming up in November, on her, I can't wait... Thanks for the heads up. I hope the food makes up for it.

[@Tachychick]

Stunned. Shocked. I am so sorry guys. I thought you were on the margaritaville ship! How awful. You have such a loyal following-like me (I cancelled my manicure because I can’t stop watching!🤷‍♀️🤣) and you would think that Norwegian would care that you had this experience. I had a bad experience with customer service on the phone about a year ago inquiring about a cruise. It was so bad, I said nope-I will never cruise with them. Ever. Looking forward to your next video. 38 days till we go on our first Virgin cruise! Love you guys!

[@DeborahShoesmith]

We cannot believe this cruise ship is still taking passengers, we have no idea how you managed to stay on board. As usual you are showing us all that is good & bad with cruise lines. Thanks for taking one on behalf of all cruisers. Hopefully this ship will be gone soon there are so many more wonderful ships out there. Love your work Deborah & Alan ⛴️

[@gram07]

OMG I tried to eat lunch while watching this review ...almost choked on my food...HYSTERICAL😂

[@NIckyFromDunedin]

same !

[@joeyhiggins-xp1yg]

Thank you Ben & David!! I appreciate you so Much! Thanks for helping dodge this; i certainly will never cruise on the Epic!

[@TravelingBlind]

OH MY GOD! Did you not see photos of this terrible cabin beforehand? I could never do a 10 days cruise in there!

[@kendrawaterbury2328]

Omg! 😂 the worst part is that the toilet is next to the hall door! 😂😂😂😂

[@ilovegodzilla]

Even if it undergoes a big refurb, the bathroom space is inherent in the design of the cabin. So, unless they are completely revamping the rooms, I still wouldn’t go.

[@ballyhigh11]

Exactly. They'd basically have to remove every cabin from the hull and insert new ones. I don't think that would be economically feasible for NCL, especially when they are getting away with selling the existing awful cabins for up to 500 dollars per night.

[@Lisa-je5bb]

Maybe the bathroom should be on the balcony! At least it would air out! Lol

[@jcskidd]

No Bens were harmed. Thankful!! Wed mood the humor! 😂😂😂 I’m speechless about the room!! 😮

[@Kparc1212]

LOL! Sorry your room is a large bathroom. But your vlog is really entertaining and fun on an early Sunday afternoon here mid-Florida.

[@kimc555]

We are currently on Ruby Princess, which is older than NCL Epic. We have 3 of us in 1 ocean view room and have cruised with 4 in an ocean view. While it’s a tight squeeze, it’s functional for all. I must say, Princess keeps the older ships maintained & clean.

[@Ted_K_Have_a_nice_day]

🤮That’s crazy! How in the world can NCL even consider this acceptable. No thank you!!!!

[@stephenwalker7750]

As usual an honest review that will help many avoid an unpleasant cruise. I agree with David’s comment about the fish and chips being better in Whitley Bay. One of my favorite places I lived in before coming to the USA.❤

[@leahlockettharris4579]

This is completely unacceptable! Only corporate greed would keep this ship in circulation without any updates and that room should be berthed as a solo cabin only.

[@Tbraaaa]

I was thinking this would make an acceptable single cabin.