The Most Under-Used Sudoku Technique

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Cracking The Cryptic

Cracking The Cryptic

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@samweldon8104
@samweldon8104 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so ashamed to say that when I clicked on this video and saw that it was a classic sudoku I figured I would give it a go. It then took me over two and a half hours to solve. Watching you breeze through it without any difficulty at any point makes me at once frustrated and in awe. Great job!
@sorayaimperial
@sorayaimperial 4 жыл бұрын
Took me 30min filling it all up with pencil marks and my logic... had to come back to the video, then the first 56 logic (which I still don't get it quite well) was enough to crack it, didn't even need the whole "empty rectangle" technique later on. Ended on 40min, but wow, I would've been stuck forever if I didn't check the video, couldn't figure out how to resolve it.
@jonnamechange6854
@jonnamechange6854 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like he jobbed all over your weaker performance
@coreyyuhas6764
@coreyyuhas6764 4 жыл бұрын
@@sorayaimperial basically the 5 and 6 in column 2 need to go somewhere. They cannot be in box 7 due to the 5 and 6 there. They also cannot go into row 1 of column 2 because of the 5 and 6 in that row. That leaves only 2 squares that a 5 or 6 could go into in that column.
@obcmissions
@obcmissions 3 жыл бұрын
One great technique to use is towards the end of the puzzle and there appears to be no choice. Look for this: All the boxes will have only two choices EXCEPT for one-it will have three choices. One of those choices will appear three times within the box, the column and the row it is part of. That will be the number to select. After that, it all works out in seconds.
@alexanderstelmakh8906
@alexanderstelmakh8906 Жыл бұрын
@@obcmissions it is called BUG technique.
@Dalixam
@Dalixam 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny... I can follow every step you take. I understand the logic. But I'm pretty sure I couldn't find an empty rectangle in the wild to save my life.
@grenvillephillips6998
@grenvillephillips6998 5 жыл бұрын
What I find is that there is definitely a difference between understanding a technique and internalising it. There is a time gap between the two. I guess the brain needs time to sort out the wiring.
@hamzahussain7794
@hamzahussain7794 5 жыл бұрын
Same here, I have huge trouble doing the empty rectangle spotting. I understood it but I could never have found it if I tried
@deenszxking6818
@deenszxking6818 5 жыл бұрын
@@hamzahussain7794 checkout the nonogram or picross puzzle. You will love it
@hamzahussain7794
@hamzahussain7794 5 жыл бұрын
@@deenszxking6818 yeah i love those! I like to do them also! I play hungry cat picross from time to time on my android
@iamisaid2295
@iamisaid2295 5 жыл бұрын
@@grenvillephillips6998 so true! i've watched this 3 times and it finally just sunk in. now to actually spot one in the wild.
@newcitykids
@newcitykids 3 жыл бұрын
The lessons on locked pairs and empty rectangle at 5:32 and 14:10 are extremely helpful
@refeez3700
@refeez3700 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed! It's a joy to watch videos like this!
@LeoninMinecraft
@LeoninMinecraft 5 жыл бұрын
I like to think im good at sudokus, but when i hear him discuss how he figured out how there was no six at around 6:50 , that really shows how much more there is to learn!
@buzzly108
@buzzly108 4 жыл бұрын
1: Find a pair of cells (like the 56 pair) in the same row or column, but in different boxes. 2: find a box that has only one row and column left to fill in, where either the row or the column "points" at one of the paired cells. In his example, box 6 points at the 56 in box 4 3: Now see if there is an empty cell that completes a rectangle between the two paired cells, and the intersection of the box you found. In this example, that's R3C8 4: Pretend that one of the paired numbers (in this case the 6) is in the empty cell you found in step 3. 5: "Complete" or "unwind" the numbers... so, put a 5 in R3C2, and a 6 in R5C2. You'll see that because of the two 6's you entered in the grid, you can no longer put a 6 anywhere in Box 6 6: The same is true if you try to put a 5 in (ignoring the existing 5 in Box 3). Try to get in the habit of doing this every time you discover a pair, and soon you'll spot these in the wild.
@bertbergers9171
@bertbergers9171 4 жыл бұрын
@@buzzly108 But why he can ignore the opportunity of the 6 not being in a row or column, but diagonally over the 3x3block with the empty rectangle, is what i don't understand.
@dhawkins1234
@dhawkins1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@bertbergers9171 I still don't follow the explanation Simon gave in the video, but Michael's explanation makes more sense to me. Read through it again. The goal is to eliminate 6 as a candidate from r3c8. We can do this by considering what would happen if it were a 6. That would force a 6 in r5c2 via the 56 pair. But then every empty cell in box #6 would see a 6, either via r5c2 or r3c8, leaving nowhere to place a 6 in that box. So r3c8 cannot contain a 6. That's all we can conclude at the moment.
@dhawkins1234
@dhawkins1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@bertbergers9171 of course, the overall goal is to spot the pattern by noticing how the 56 pair interacts with the empty cells in box 6, forcing an elimination in r3c8. Wouldn't be very useful if you had to test every possible cell for that elimination logic.
@LisaLaMagna
@LisaLaMagna 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Hawkins thank you
@larrysmith2638
@larrysmith2638 4 жыл бұрын
He's driving me crazy when he ignores one empty cell in a square to go off looking for different numbers.
@leroybullied7705
@leroybullied7705 4 жыл бұрын
me too could have solved it 10 seconds faster
@mulecreek2000
@mulecreek2000 4 жыл бұрын
And shouting doesn't help either.
@andrewnielsen3178
@andrewnielsen3178 4 жыл бұрын
Yep - UNsubscibe.
@AndrewCheshire
@AndrewCheshire 4 жыл бұрын
I was screaming about the 2-9 pair in the middle block for thirteen minutes before he filled it in 😂
@KAF128
@KAF128 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@Damin-Danger-Ledford
@Damin-Danger-Ledford 4 жыл бұрын
So, until given a puzzle book 6 weeks ago, i tried Sodoku twice. After watching 5 of these videos today, i realized you cannot do this game without pencil marks; which is how i solve many other puzzles. I tried them in pen over the last 2 weeks, and now i have 4 inked, indecipherable, works of art. Thank you for this channel. It's my new favorite. Cheers
@kayleawilson
@kayleawilson 4 жыл бұрын
I have been there bud! so much ink haha
@cameronmele2989
@cameronmele2989 5 жыл бұрын
The first example of the anti rectangle didn’t make sense to me. Then the second did make sense. I went back to the first example and now I understand. Thank you!
@indigobunting2431
@indigobunting2431 5 ай бұрын
Empty rectangle means a T-shape of four cells empty, or a square of four cells empty, or L-shapes empty wirhin a single block. (Not anti.)
@chrisalvino812
@chrisalvino812 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, so I was just stuck on a puzzle for several hours. After not making any progress for an hour, I give up and decide to watch some cracking the cryptic to get some inspiration. This is the first video I watch, and I realize I might have an empty rectangle that I missed. Go back to my puzzle, find an empty rectangle in a couple minutes. Three minutes later the entire puzzle is solved! Thanks!
@kevinbyrne4538
@kevinbyrne4538 5 жыл бұрын
He thought that he'd solved all of the 6s at 13:25, but he didn't recognize his oversight until 16:16. Thanks for illustrating the rectangle technique.
@mrmonster3434
@mrmonster3434 5 жыл бұрын
I had the whole grid filled out with candidates, but without the empty rectangle insight there was no way to unwind the pair/triple/quad cycles. Spent far too long staring before I watched you crack it!
@TheWalkerboh65
@TheWalkerboh65 5 жыл бұрын
I took a look at a solver, cause I was also not seeing the empty rectangle. Needs X cycles or BUG or XY chain to find it. Things I have even less of a change of noticing.
@ringing7
@ringing7 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly the situation I found myself in as well. I believe I understand the logic now ... thx so much for the clear and detailed explanation for the more intermediate solvers like myself!
@BlueCyann
@BlueCyann 5 жыл бұрын
There was actually. I needed his help for the 56 pairs but solved it from there without either empty rectangle logic or chaining. There was another set of pairs like the 56 somewhere that helped me.
@blast2095
@blast2095 4 жыл бұрын
Yep seems like you either have to use the Empty Rectangle or more complicated cycles, chains, etc. Definitely not something you can solve using pairs, simple deduction.
@itap8880
@itap8880 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't actually use empty rectangle but I came to a simple forcing chain with 2s, 9s and 1s. [3,4],[3,5],[4,6] were 2-or-9 cells and [3,1],[5,1] were 1-or-9 so if [3,5] was 2, [3,4],[4,6] would be both 9 and [3,1],[5,1] would be both 1 then while being in the same row.
@Maelstrom000
@Maelstrom000 5 жыл бұрын
Empty rectangle! Never knew there was a name for this. I always thought of this as trying out all possibilities and checking if they all lead to the same elimination. Literally the very last trick I ever use as I had no method to spot them. Love the column/row trick! Subscribed
@stilladreamer1
@stilladreamer1 2 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, all techniques are essentially forcing a chain in the end, but when a forced chain has a noticeable pattern we give it a name.
@lmelior
@lmelior 4 жыл бұрын
I paused it at the beginning to try it, messed it up twice, watched until you described the empty rectangle, and that finished it for me. I used it to resolve the exact same two unknowns that you did. Very cool!
@jazzminf4018
@jazzminf4018 4 жыл бұрын
5:00-6:25 When he mentions the empty rectangle, by deducing that 6 is not possible on the cell he marked '2' in the corner, if you fill in some of the more obvious numbers, you can quickly deduce the number in that cell is actually 8. Using that 8, you can then solve the upper square to be 2, then most of the 3x3 square in the top right hand corner can be solved. Great piece of logic there
@Bassbarbie
@Bassbarbie 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did that too. I also got there without knowing the trick and wondered if it had just been a fluke. I would have been stuck on the second one though.
@fraewn2617
@fraewn2617 2 жыл бұрын
I did the sudoku first, then when I couldn't continue, I went back to the video and you helped me with the 5/6 pair. I went on with the sudoku, when I needed help again I continued the video and you taught me the empty rectangle trick with the 5/6 pair. I continued, nearly solved the whole thing, had a bunch of 1/2/9 situations that I could not fill in. I remembered the empty rectangle with the horizontal and vertical perspectives, identified a field that in any case could only be a 1, solved the puzzle! Thank you!
@CompletelyCr
@CompletelyCr 4 жыл бұрын
44:22. Made a leap of faith based on rules I learnt off here - I wasn't quite sure if I was doing the right thing, but it worked! Perhaps it does go in when I drift off to sleep! Keep it up!
@ala4sox02
@ala4sox02 5 жыл бұрын
4:18 all I was missing to complete the solve. Really wish I had seen that earlier. Thank you!
@Abhishek-zb3dp
@Abhishek-zb3dp 7 ай бұрын
That was a wizard level spot
@coolpapabell22
@coolpapabell22 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing to see how much more comfortable and polished your videos have gotten over the past year or so. This is fine but definitely not as easy to watch as the newer stuff.
@Hiato1994
@Hiato1994 5 жыл бұрын
The empty rectangle has come up as a hint so many times in the app I use, and I've never understood it. Thank-you for clearing it up for me.
@eggplanthose
@eggplanthose 4 жыл бұрын
Which app?
@Hiato1994
@Hiato1994 4 жыл бұрын
@@eggplanthose Sudoku by Brainium on Android. I also found a great Killer Sudoku app, but that one I think has been removed from the Play store.
@CentrifugalSatzClock
@CentrifugalSatzClock 4 жыл бұрын
Very neat at before the 4:50 mark seeing that quickly on the boxes to the far left that the center column had 2 squares in need of a 5 and 6. He'd be a good chess player at tracking loose and hanging pieces.
@Danne-Danger
@Danne-Danger 2 жыл бұрын
Came here from your "The Witness"-series and this was my first finished sudoku and first sudoku video... it took me 3 solid hours making an effort not to guess anything, very eye opening to see an efficient method afterwards.
@JohnRandomness105
@JohnRandomness105 2 жыл бұрын
For the first time, I tried this puzzle before watching the video. I think that the "empty rectangle" made the difference between me getting thoroughly stumped and having to guess at a point, and solving it properly. After my first guess led to duplicates after going throughout the grid, I *tried* to find out how two colors could be put in the same box. That would have helped, I think.
@mirandak7242
@mirandak7242 4 жыл бұрын
wow, I FINALLY understand how the empty rectangle works! could never wrap my head around it until this video
@doctortoddanderson
@doctortoddanderson 4 жыл бұрын
5:00 - Empty Rectangle Pattern
@playhooky
@playhooky 4 жыл бұрын
The only time I saw him actually explain a "technique".
@LisaLaMagna
@LisaLaMagna 4 жыл бұрын
Istill dont get it
@Homerenoideas
@Homerenoideas 3 жыл бұрын
@@LisaLaMagna me either. I don't understand why the 6 can only go vertical or horizontal.
@madamid100
@madamid100 3 жыл бұрын
@@Homerenoideas Because you can only place the 6 in the tetris-like pattern in that 3x3 box. In the beginning it's still unknown where to place the 6 but it has to be either in the lower three boxes in row 5 (horizontal) or in the two boxes in column 8 (Vertical). (Row 5 column 8 would be both, horizontal and vertical) No matter where you place the 6 in the box it can never be in row 3 column 8 for the following reasons: If the 6 is in the three boxes in row 6 it has to be in row 3 column 2 because of the 56 pair in column 2 and then the 6 couldn't be placed in row 3 column 8. The same applies of course if the 6 was placed in one of the two boxes in column 8.
@bionictulip
@bionictulip 3 жыл бұрын
@@madamid100 I see how this always precludes putting the six in column 8 row 3. I don't see why we then argue that the six "must be either vertical or horizontal" in the right side middle box. Why would it be illogical to place placeholders for 6 in all four empty squares in that tetris configuration (in the puzzle state at about 6:00 where he hasn't marked placeholders for 5 or 6 in that box, yet)?
@donatoliotino1872
@donatoliotino1872 5 жыл бұрын
9:44 thought my laptop crashed.
@regress-c3t
@regress-c3t 4 ай бұрын
These videos are reassuring to me in one way because they show me I solve puzzles just like an expert. The difference is what takes him 15 minutes takes me FOUR HOURS.
@jdyerjdyer
@jdyerjdyer 4 жыл бұрын
Another quick and easy one from last year. I did this one in only 22 minutes, so only 5 minutes more than your solve (but I wasn't explaining anything either). Thanks for the videos! Also I like your explanation of the empty rectangle a lot better than some of the descriptions online. Even though your explanation didn't define why it is called an empty rectangle (the number you are looking at can't be in the other four (or more) cells in the box, those being the empty rectangle as I understand it) your description does identify the more salient point that the row and column lines formed next to the empty rectangle combined with an interlocking pair does let you eliminate the digit from the square seen by the other cell on the pair in the matching column (or row if the pair is in a row). See, even I have trouble explaining it, but at least I do understand it well, now.
@SmartHobbies
@SmartHobbies 3 жыл бұрын
I love CTC's solving style so much I made a video on my channel where I analyze each step of this solve. In addition to explaining the strategies used, I add a couple of pause the video moments and some alternate solving paths, similar to how someone analyzes a chess game.
@ianpearse4480
@ianpearse4480 7 ай бұрын
That was hard. Took nearly an hour. Wow. Love it. Now to watch your video. Really like the grid you let us use. Thank you for the share.
@alkz0r381
@alkz0r381 5 жыл бұрын
No clue about that empty rectangle when solving it by myself...took me several X-Wings and Skyscrapers (also made progress there due to your videos) to finally crack it after endless time by excluding several numbers...such a complicated pathway compared to the shown solution...Big thanks for showing that route!
@diablo888
@diablo888 5 жыл бұрын
yea i think all his empty rectangles could be spotted with skyscrapers and kites in this puzzle, not 100% sure though.
@Hercules16
@Hercules16 2 жыл бұрын
42 MIn on my second go but I did not use the empty rectangle technique. it's always a pleasure to see you cracking! hope to see you again!
@eliworldwide
@eliworldwide Жыл бұрын
This puzzle took a little under 2 hours!! For me, I had to look where things couldn't be by a little guess and check. Going to watch video now and see if there was an easier strategy!! Thanks!
@venureddy1092
@venureddy1092 4 жыл бұрын
`I spotted the empty rectangle for 5s and 6s but proceeded with the 5s....your explanation that the 5 in R9C1 and so we must go for the 6s is the eye opener!!! I dint go for the empty rectangle and got lot more numbers in various squares but there were so many 6s in the unfinished puzzle, that I went for the solution done by you!! Good show
@koenth2359
@koenth2359 5 жыл бұрын
You are so fast and accurate, impressive! These are the best sudoku videos around. One remark though on the way you explain the empty rectangle: you talk about it as if there can be more 6's in the same 3×3 block, which I found confusing at first. Why not just use the singular, 'The 6 is either in this row, or in that column, (or both), ...' ?
@Samgurney88
@Samgurney88 5 жыл бұрын
The 7 in the bottom right corner could have been found much earlier and would've had other implications for the grid.
@Hwyspeeder
@Hwyspeeder 5 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment, when he put the 3 in that square, with the other vertical 7s it made it the top right of that square
@antonyhall8
@antonyhall8 4 жыл бұрын
Drove me crazy
@chetananand4250
@chetananand4250 4 жыл бұрын
The whole puzzle could have been solved very easily after that.
@LisaLaMagna
@LisaLaMagna 4 жыл бұрын
Seven!!!
@ankur.lahiry
@ankur.lahiry 4 жыл бұрын
True
@mikercircuit9382
@mikercircuit9382 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea other people used this technique! I have been playing sudoku for 4 years now and have only known this method and taught myself everything I know. My record time on easy is 1:09 and 8:47 for Expert. As I finally look at stuff online I realize I know pretty much everything and love watching this youtuber now to see the crazy puzzles he gets to do- ill pause it and try to beat his time! I beat him for this puzzle and most because he stops to explain things as I go on.
@maiyenish8552
@maiyenish8552 3 жыл бұрын
He is much better at explaining for the masses! I just do it all in my head, without leaving the little numbers behind, which are so important for teaching people how to improve their skills.
@kecy00
@kecy00 4 жыл бұрын
15:22 was what I needed to solve this. Thank you!
@mjschryver
@mjschryver 3 жыл бұрын
"Today might be kind of a long video." Hearing this comment during a 17-minute video, just a couple of days after watching the 1 hour 40 minute video, is very funny. It's amazing to me how far sudoku, and this channel, and - I imagine - a whole lot of viewers like me have come in the past year and a half. One tiny silver lining to the pandemic cloud.
@hascleavrahmbenyoseph7186
@hascleavrahmbenyoseph7186 4 жыл бұрын
The "empty rectangle" method is fantastic! I've seen you use it in other sudoku puzzles and I've been able to use it, though I find it hard to see when the opportunity arises . I never write small numbers in because I prefer to remember what numbers pair up in which boxes, and if I think the puzzle is taking to long a time then I imagine one of the pairs as resolved and then think about how to resolve all the other pairs based on the imagined resolve... it's a great mental exercise. Thank you so much for teaching the 'empty triangle' technique.
@caramba10
@caramba10 5 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure watching your Sudoku solves Simon, I didn't know about empty rectangles so thank you for the explanation.
@jamessweatt985
@jamessweatt985 3 жыл бұрын
This video did the trick. I tried the puzzle before watching, and I got stuck. I saw your description of the empty rectangle and I paused the video and was able to finish the puzzle by spotting the second empty rectangle on my own. So, I picked up a skill. I really think the second empty rectangle technique was necessary.
@StrawberrygirlAnna
@StrawberrygirlAnna 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tip! I’ve been stuck on a few hard sudokus for a week, hope this helps
@spelldaddy5386
@spelldaddy5386 Жыл бұрын
0:51 I love how Simon refers to 17 minutes and change as a long video when people nowadays complain that the puzzle is too easy if the video is that short! How times have changed...
@TheErusPrime
@TheErusPrime 5 жыл бұрын
The ones where you demystify some logic i was struggling with seeing are my favorites.
@sethoflagos2880
@sethoflagos2880 5 жыл бұрын
Good! The empty rectangles trick was new to me, and even after 2 hours I couldn't spot any other way to solve this one. Wonder how often it's the key move.
@rickcarter7495
@rickcarter7495 4 жыл бұрын
quite often with harder puzzles...as harder puzzles you often find pairs along a row or column but in different boxes.
@dudedurham
@dudedurham 3 жыл бұрын
To me, a novice, it appears that initial “empty rectangle” of his with the 6 unlocked most everything... and that the puzzle was meant to be much, much more difficult if you didn’t know the technique. Gosh I adore this channel.
@PeregrineBF
@PeregrineBF 4 жыл бұрын
This randomly showed up in my youtube recommendations, so a bit of a necro. The most advanced techniques needed to solve the puzzle are a Sashimi X-Wing and a BUG+1 (or short chain) Singles: r6c6=5, r6c4=6, r6c2=8, r6c3=4, r6c9=1, r3c7=4, r7c1=4, r9c5=4, r1c4=4 c2 has a naked pair, 7 & 9, in r1c2 & r7c2. r3c279, r5c279, & r9c279 Singles: r9c2=3, r8c9=3, r5c8=3, r9c8=1, r2c7=1, r1c8=2 r23c6 form locked candidates for digit 2. r23c452 r1c23 form locked candidates for digit 7. r3c137 Singles: r9c6=7, r3c4=7, r7c9=7, r1c2=7, r7c2=9, r9c7=9 X-wing for digit 1, r3c1, r3c6, r8c1, r8c6. r38c351 Singles: r3c3=3, r2c4=3 r23c5 are locked candidates for digit 5. r78c55 r2c1, r2c9, r4c1, r4c8 together form a Sashimi X-wing for digit 6. r3c86 Singles: r3c8=8, r2c5=8, r5c9=8, r3c5=5, r2c3=5, r5c2=5, r3c8=5, r3c2=6, r5c7=6, r7c8=6, r2c9=6, r4c1=6, r8c5=6, r3c9=9 r23c1 form locked candidates on digit 2. r1c52 There's an obvious BUG+1. But I like chains, so r5c5=9 => r4c49 & r1c59 => r1c3=9 & r4c3=9, which is a contradiction, so r5c59, r1c39, & r4c39. Singles: r1c3=1, r3c6=1, r7c5=1, r1c8=1, r3c1=2, r2c6=2, r4c3=2, r5c5=2, r6c6=2, r7c7=5, r8c4=5, r5c1=7, r8c3=7, r7c3=8, r8c7=8, r1c5=9, r2c1=9, r4c4=9, r5c3=9, r8c6=9
@Ashes3123
@Ashes3123 3 жыл бұрын
Empty rectangle really screwed me up till late in the game. So well done for spotting it so early.
@DaveGeelen88
@DaveGeelen88 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks you,,, finally I understand the logic of the Empty Rectangle, And I did spot the 2nd one :) :) (after you pointed out there is one) Making some progress :)
@markleach5722
@markleach5722 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, always learning. Just a note that the check button says it doesn’t look right even when all is correct. This was the 1st time I’d tried it out. Thanks again.
@moneyforshort
@moneyforshort 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of progress in this channel has been phenomenal.
@simonxiangzheng8286
@simonxiangzheng8286 4 жыл бұрын
Around 4:39 I think the correct move should be focusing on column 2 and realizing that 3 has to be in r9c2, and this will certainly avoid using the rectangle technique for box 6, which could be a bit unclear
@1ThomasTom
@1ThomasTom 4 жыл бұрын
So this is what Sean Lock does in between episodes of 8 out of 10 cats
@wescraven2606
@wescraven2606 4 жыл бұрын
14:05 X-wing on 1's in R1C3 & R1C5 & R7C3 & R7C5 eliminates 1's in R8C3 and R8C5.
@Jordan-pf9ws
@Jordan-pf9ws 2 жыл бұрын
As a beginner I appreciate this video. I have not seen another video describing it.
@AWildBard
@AWildBard 4 жыл бұрын
I sort of learned a new trick, the empty rectangle... but I doubt if I can recognize when to use it and when it can't work. But I imagine it's something I'll be able to learn now that I've seen it. I guess I'll have to keep watching! great show, thanks
@insectbah
@insectbah 3 жыл бұрын
I was always so confused about how to spot empty rectangles, but knowing they follow similar patterns as x-wings has really helped!
@jeff0125
@jeff0125 Жыл бұрын
I was stuck on puzzle #23 in your app. Even with hint #2 about this technique for the 7s and 9s, I just couldn't wrap my head around this. This video is very helpful - I wanted to understand it before using the hint and continuing.
@Glock2201
@Glock2201 3 жыл бұрын
I do not get why at around the 4:19 mark you say both the 5 and the 6 both have to go in the 2nd column because the 5 can go in the 3rd column and the 6 can go in the 1st column.
@mielunaria
@mielunaria 5 жыл бұрын
15:20 that literally solved it for me, i was stuck for so long and couldn't figure out why. but the simple fact that the center square isnt a 9 just made everything domino effect into place for me. those empty rectangles are so powerful wow
@sakshamgarg8531
@sakshamgarg8531 5 жыл бұрын
exactly same thing happened with me lol
@Rikoshima
@Rikoshima 4 жыл бұрын
59:05, while listening to a podcast. did plenty of staring blankly at it waiting for my brain to notice any kind of pattern. embarrassingly resorted to entering all the possibilities for every cell, and it was only then that i noticed a triad in column 3 that ultimately unwound the rest of it for me.
@robxyz2926
@robxyz2926 4 жыл бұрын
That's a new one for me. I think I understand it. I'll put it in the tool box and give it a go. Thanks for the tip.
@noshame2389
@noshame2389 7 ай бұрын
Oh I was already doing this! I didn't know how to fully explain it wasnt until recently that it stopped physically hurting to keep all the numbers in my head to accomplish it properly. Even with notation it's a lot to keep track of to make eliminations.
@MrBlackHawk888
@MrBlackHawk888 3 жыл бұрын
Well, 1st explanation of Empty rectangle rule imho could be done much easier: "If we put a 6 here (8th cell of 3rd region - 06:20), then, after unbinding the 5-6 pair on the left, we find out that there is no place for a 6 in the 6th region". Short and simple. But ofc there has to be some experience to notice those patterns easily. And, as you mentioned, benefits from applying ER rule arrive *a bit* later(and keep in mind that amateurs would take more time to solve this). Nevertheless, thanks for this example.
@maximusminimus8050
@maximusminimus8050 3 жыл бұрын
The technique I learned from this was a number in two columns "squeezed" the number in the bottom row, which I never thought about before, hopefully will use it later on.
@maxsebashtingomes7575
@maxsebashtingomes7575 3 жыл бұрын
The way you make us understand is great. Thankyou sir
@getlowrenzo
@getlowrenzo Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for you to put the 7 in the bottom right box at 8:55. I think that would’ve unlocked things much earlier, especially in column 2
@ximorro5247
@ximorro5247 2 жыл бұрын
6:05 Please, can anyone explain why 6 can only be in a vertical or horizontal arrangement in this block? Thanks
@ddkapps
@ddkapps 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding the empty rectangle discussed at 5:33, I do not understand why the 6s must be horizontal or vertical, at this point why couldn't they be diagonal, say for example a possible 6 in either r4c8 or r5c9? What rules that out? While I know some advanced techniques I am admittedly unfamiliar with the empty rectangle trick so I'm probably missing some logic here. Could someone help me out and explain the logic, or give a link to a good explanation?
@Brandon37_
@Brandon37_ 8 ай бұрын
Empty rectanges are a beautiful technique. I hope I am able to spot one in on my own sometime.
@Radux_23
@Radux_23 2 жыл бұрын
I was banging my head saying 7 in the bottom right after he filled the one under it for like 4 mins I think but the technique you showed off I never new about so that was helpful
@nubetoob9292
@nubetoob9292 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer when you click on a cell and it highlights the corresponding column/row/block. Makes it easier to see.
@stvcolwill
@stvcolwill 4 жыл бұрын
at 4:19 ... couldn't you mark at that point when you put the 5-6 par in r5c2, you could put in the same 56 pair using logic into r4c8. So that square couldn't be anything else.
@jobo2612
@jobo2612 5 жыл бұрын
Just getting into your videos - never heard of empty rectangle before this one. Wicked.
@unboxingdelibrosbonitosyco2826
@unboxingdelibrosbonitosyco2826 10 ай бұрын
“This it’s gonna be a long video” four years later we have over two-hour videos and these ones look like a breeze Kudos CTC!
@InknbeansPress
@InknbeansPress 3 жыл бұрын
5:03 empty rectangle. 14:43 eliminates the 1, then the 9. I had to use simple coloring to finish, and that obviously required several more steps.
@patrickhazlehurst8472
@patrickhazlehurst8472 3 жыл бұрын
That's a really interesting technique. I'd got to a point where it looked as though there could be two solutions (I know that's impossible), only this technique sorted it out. Thanks for that.
@hum262
@hum262 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Sudoku book where in a lot of the puzzles it was possible to have 2 correct solutions.
@ZsOtherBrother
@ZsOtherBrother 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the technique. I'd like to comment that although this video is about the "empty rectangles" technique, you've missed several immediate numbers, ('4' in the middle-left block at the beginning, then '7' in the bottom-right one, and I think there was also a '3' somewhere... and then you ignored a single empty cell in a block), which would have made the solution faster and easier.
@StephShrubb
@StephShrubb 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure this will revolutionise my Sudoku game. Thank you!
@ferdiemanalac7814
@ferdiemanalac7814 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon thanks a lot I learn so many technique from you . Now I can solve many hard sudoku problem. Btw i am from the Philippines.
@Meatp0pp0t
@Meatp0pp0t 4 жыл бұрын
at 8:45 you have the 7 and 9 combined in 2 boxes. but there can only be a 7 in the top box because in the other horizontal boxes can't be a 7.
@MoofManiac
@MoofManiac 5 жыл бұрын
Love the trill in Mozart’s Sonata in C major! (Love your videos too...)
@CynthiaLK
@CynthiaLK 5 жыл бұрын
So THAT'S what it's called!! Thanks!
@TwoTall1988
@TwoTall1988 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I got stuck on this one it was an obvious pencil mark I was overlooking for a naked single or the second empty square. I learned the empty square working through this video. Maybe now I can get through the first puzzle on Sven's Sudoku Pad... I've only been going at it for 2-3 days lol
@MarieAnne.
@MarieAnne. 4 жыл бұрын
At 13:25 you say "I think we've found all the sixes", but you actually missed one, which drove me a little nuts, since you could have filled in more squares. But I really liked the empty rectangle trick. I've used similar methods to eliminate numbers before, but sometimes it's hit and miss. This way, I'll know exactly what to look for in the future.
@pavelsothoth6133
@pavelsothoth6133 4 жыл бұрын
Before watching your channel and sudoku guy I hardly ever finished expert sudoku, now my best time is 8 minutes.
@Statemeifyoucan
@Statemeifyoucan 5 жыл бұрын
7 in the bottom right corner . I saw it earlier . I think that would make the puzzle easier further
@dependsupon
@dependsupon 3 жыл бұрын
i just got into this channel a month or so ago and this is the first featured puzzle i successfully solved on my own! it's a pretty easy one but i wanted to brag even so :)
@charlesmangum3108
@charlesmangum3108 4 жыл бұрын
You are teaching me one thing: Don't get so engrossed in the logic that you forget the obvious.
@bobadams1696
@bobadams1696 9 ай бұрын
At around 7:15 seconds, I don’t understand the logic of why the 6 must be either vertical or horizontal. Does it relate to the shape of the empty cells.
@TyJordan90
@TyJordan90 2 жыл бұрын
When you still fail the exam 5 minutes after the teacher finishes explaining the concept ... smh "Now I wonder if you've seen it." Bruhhh, you have too much faith in my abilities.
@AurelUrban
@AurelUrban 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand the empty rectangle thing at first but an easy way to get it is to put the 6 in the square where it's not supposed to be. that will resolve the 56 pair and then there will be nowhere to put a 6 in that box with 3 empty squares. this would actually work even if there was an empty cross in that box, because the two 6s would still see all the squares
@itamarolmert3549
@itamarolmert3549 3 жыл бұрын
this is the first ctc puzzle I solved in under an hour! Though I didn't encounter any ER while doing so, interestingly enough.
@draconicdusk5911
@draconicdusk5911 5 жыл бұрын
I'll need to remember the empty rectangles technique, thank you for showing this!
@kevinerose
@kevinerose 4 жыл бұрын
Empty rectangle. I think that's all I'm missing in my life. Thank you!
@anthonysingh3142
@anthonysingh3142 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. This was an awesome video
@hippophile
@hippophile 4 жыл бұрын
Yay! Found the second "empty rectangle". Not sure why you call it that, but it's a nice technique...I solve all my sudokus without putting any trial numbers in the grid (lazy?), so this method is REALLY useful.
@josephfernandez9767
@josephfernandez9767 3 жыл бұрын
at time 8:00, you decide to put 3 on grid 7 bottom row (between 5 and 6). I thought 3 could also be placed next to 2. Why did you choose to place it between 5 and 6 and not next to 2. Can you explain the logic please. This would have changed the way 3 is placed in grid 9. It could have been next to 4 or first one on the last row (3 blank 2).
@karynmorton4843
@karynmorton4843 2 жыл бұрын
Because Column 2 needs a 3 and Row 9 was the only available spot.
@williamkepraios986
@williamkepraios986 Жыл бұрын
I struggled with this at first also. But the answer must be: If he put a 3 in R8 C3 he later could not have put a 3 in R 2 or R3 in C.1. He must have seen that but did not explain it.
@ryanhaart
@ryanhaart 5 жыл бұрын
Nice going until 4:15. Then you start trying yourself up in knots. Next obvious steps are: 3 in column 2/row 9, then 1 in c8/r9, then 1 in c7/r2, then 7 in c6/r9 and 9 in c7/r9.
@superchargerone
@superchargerone 4 жыл бұрын
At 15:22 how did you decide that it is a definite 2 and not a 9 as at that stage it could be either a 2 or a 9 since the left side grid remained unfilled ?
@TommyEVOLUTION
@TommyEVOLUTION 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, someone who has just learned the technique here. I'll try to help you. The thing is that the 2-9 in the center is directly related to the 1-9s at the top. If that center was a 9, that would mean that the one above must be 1 and the one to its left another 9. Both those 9s would block any possible 9 in the 4th square, so it is not a possible solution. He doesn't exactly word it that way but that's the idea. let me know if it helped you. I think I'm getting the hang of it.
@danielmaiava6081
@danielmaiava6081 2 жыл бұрын
Solved in 24:48. wow that was a good challenge!!!! :)
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