The Most Unfair Jail Sentence Ever

[@zeropika7258]

A man holding a chainsaw is a dangerous one

[@Giitzerland]

You've been watching too many movies.

[@Sujad]

@@Giitzerland Wait, do you think a chainsaw won't fuck someone up? Even if you just use it as a club?

[@unknowncat2278]

​@@Giitzerlandshhhhh kid. Go to bed

[@HouseholdOtaku]

People seem to forget that the man holding a chainsaw also has a military background.. so yes you’re right, he is dangerous!

[@Enigmaenick]

The chainsaw was off? How can he steal a chainsaw if it's on? It would make too much noise. Use your head.

[@sceptile2794]

Schools when you fight back against the bully:

[@mr.autismatikautomatik2363]

That's beyond rough, buddy!

[@SaifAlikhan-wy1zs]

Every time

[@Coloneltrex]

at my school one kid started bully someone and another kid punched him and the kid that punched got suspended and the bull didn't even get a detention

[@VersionBest]

It's always like that for whatever unfathomable reason(s). Till this day I still remember vividly in middle school during English class a bully picked on me and even slapped me on the backside of my head. The male teacher in his late 50s saw the whole thing but decided to sit there and do nothing about it. I even made eye contact with the teacher giving him a blank face as though silently saying are you going to do something about this? He just looked back at me, eyes wide open but did not say a thing and kept quiet as though nothing had happened. I was about to snap and stood up to punch the bully in the face, but cooler heads prevailed. I was wise enough at that age to know the difference and that was if I retaliated I would be the one sent to the principal's office and be punished for my action. I was surprisingly wise at the time for being so young.

[@mr.autismatikautomatik2363]

@@VersionBest teacher who backed the bullies, implicitly or explicitly IS A TRAITOR! Simple.

[@dazeen9591]

Looks like Nelson succeeded in his robbery by legally stealing $150 000 for his family

[@SauceOnChickens]

Disgusting 🫣

[@justsomeguywithagoatee8337]

And all it cost him was his worthless life.

[@dazeen9591]

@@justsomeguywithagoatee8337 real.

[@screamskilos3951]

​@@justsomeguywithagoatee8337hope ppl talk about you the same way when ull be gone

[@AzuraRBLX]

What a funny way to think about it

[@GOKUISTHEBOMB]

Justice isn't blind, it just goes after those who can't afford the bribes.

[@ImajinR-000]

Sad and true! EVERYWHERE, you don't have money, you don't get out.

[@adrianswaguilar]

What did the jury expect an old man to do? Just let this guy waltz around his house with a chainsaw?

[@IamNotshortTwo]

Yup 👍 -judge probably

[@darklex5150]

Did he really need to shoot a second time to make sure the thief is dead?

[@SnowyJakub]

​@@darklex5150yes

[@woodencat5990]

​@@darklex5150And risk the thief waking up and using the chainsaw on him?

[@sourspitz6151]

​@woodencat5990 you really think someone is going to get right back up after being shot with a shotgun?

[@kimberlydawn2346]

He didn't just defend his property, he defended his life.The long record criminal had a deadly weapon in his hands.

[@arthurpotter9092]

@@kimberlydawn2346 just because someone has a record of stealing things doesn't automatically make them a violent person. Plus the guy was stealing the chainsaw it's not like it was running.

[@SirHavok]

@@arthurpotter9092bro are you serious?

[@mastermind6064]

​@@arthurpotter9092 victim's safety is more important than offender's safety.

[@arthurpotter9092]

@@mastermind6064 the victim (of theft) wasn't in any danger from a guy in his garage when he was in his locked house. After he shot the guy in the back and floored him he was certainly not in enough danger to shoot again. And I don't think anyone can argue going back in the house for another bullet was justified

[@buffbeluga9541]

@@SirHavokdon’t argue with people like this, they’re too good at making up scenarios and have no ability to listen.

[@KillberZomL4D42494]

Justice is not blind, it's just picky.

[@Blackfire970]

Love the quote

[@toastedprocastinator]

PREACH.

[@timlake8658]

That's the law in action. But the law doesn't always equate to justice

[@qud3913]

​@@timlake8658I mean, where was the law for the 36 times he was released?

[@bulletopera409]

It’s biased for political reasons

[@teamofone1219]

36 arrests for the same crime? At that point he is irredeemable should have been locked up for life.

[@GM-vt6is]

Dont worry, it has been taken care of. Unfortunately for this gentleman, he made the huge mistake of calling the police for 'help' afterwards.

[@renaldtremblay-u8p]

@@GM-vt6is so true when u think about it

[@princegobi5992]

He should have gotten mental health assistance etc. it’s not as if he killed 36 people.

[@RestorationRelaxation]

Nah at that point he’s a burden on society. Take him out back.

[@Kirk_Thuggins]

Sometimes the court system just confuses me

[@a_very_burnt_steak]

It basically says that people should not die.

[@3had0w]

if there’s injustice then there shall be revolution

[@srepinS]

​@@a_very_burnt_steak more complicated than that

[@ChucktheMan33]

Many places will punish you if you're not in immediate danger when you harm or kill someone. So yes this even includes when someone is trespassing, vandalizing or stealing from you. Its only considered self defense if the person is attempting to harm you, so being charged, chased, shot/thrown at etc

[@haadiahmed3056]

​@@ChucktheMan33But the dude was going around with a literal chainsaw.

[@joveaaron-real]

I'm from Spain (native). Unfortunately, the Spanish law defends better the criminal and not the innocent. If someone breaks into your house in Spain, you can call the police and wait for them, but you CANNOT even touch the intruder. If you do, you can get sued by them and you WILL be found guilty. This is a reality in Spain. We have grown tired of this. You wouldn't imagine how many people would modify the self-defence rule/law to allow you to defend your property, but because the law can only be changed by politicians and they all are corrupt and horrible people, so I don't think it will ever happen.

[@nunyabiznes33]

Maybe they'd change it once their homes broken in but they probably live in gated communities unlike the plebs they rule over.

[@gabrielecepollina9122]

It works the same in Italy. Honest judges and politicians are like unicorns... just a fairytale. And if there are any, they're so out of reality not to understand the people's real problems.

[@ZelieZazou]

Same situation in France...

[@stupidupdate]

Huh, seems like such thing is pretty common in other countries. It's kinda like that in here too...

[@Blakenew127]

Damn that is CRAZY. I have never in my entire life heard a “civilized” country to have such law. In Spain, to break in and rob houses definitely compensates. They literally decreased the risks of committing the crime enormously… if the worse happens, you or your family get money from compensation 😂 sounds like a great deal for a criminal. The amount of terror to find a man inside my house in the middle of the night CARRYING A CHAINSAW AND MILITARY TRAINING!!! The old man beated all odds, I hope his case is the one that will change your laws for the better.

[@jekky6159]

Arresting someone for self defense is crazy Edit: please for the love of god, stop commenting/liking this comment as it’s been 3 months.

[@christopherlee8321]

fr

[@sergiogutierrezvalverde7352]

There is no self defense in Spain

[@mahmudoppo186]

There are many cases like that in my country *Indonesia

[@fartl3679]

@@mediamanic4381there were holding a chainsaw so if some one puts a gun to your face you can not kill him you are saying

[@tomz1daful]

​@@mediamanic4381Another Agent of the corrupt legal system. Nelson experienced FAFO. Bring back Generalissimo Franco. ✨✨✨

[@adriandavidblancohoefle9743]

It's the stupid self defense law of Spain, that doesn't let you use a bigger ammount of force to that of the attacker.

[@onee]

What were they expecting him to do? "Ah you're right, let me drop my shotgun and quickly get my chainsaw instead."

[@andrek6920]

@@onee Even more stupid considering the fact that how the hell are you even supposed to realize in the moment what the other person is holding, what they are doing or what they are going to do. ' If someone strange is in your house at night creeping around and holding what looks like a weapon the smart thing is to attack immediately not to make sure if the guy knows youre there or what weapon theyre holding or what theyre going to do when discovered.

[@michaelcoward1902]

Idiots...it's the SECOND SHOT that got him in jail. The first shot and he would have probably gotten a suspended sentence at worst, but the second shot was straight up murder. The fact that you guys are too dumb to realise this is a major reason why guns shouldn't be widely accessible.

[@Shreded_Cheese]

​@@andrek6920 and even worse you can't hurt them until they hurt you meaning you can't defend yourself effectively until you have injuries

[@christophermorris9816]

bro had a chainsaw what was the old dude supposed to do run to his neighbors and steal their chainsaw and get into a chainsaw duel with someone younger and stronger then him cause if ya ask me it kinda sounds like spain is fuck your mother trying to fuck your sister levels of rere across the board for their nation like just saying he's an elderly old man can't really put up his dukes and pull some marvel esc moves on a trained militant like just saying

[@bruwh8563]

“How dare you defend yourself, if you dont allow yourself to be killed then you’re no better than the guy trying to kill you” - the spanish jury probably

[@santigarr]

Legit

[@MereImitation]

The intruder was already on the ground. The old man closed the distance and fired on a prone person. That stopped being self defense a while ago.

[@LaelGames7913]

@@MereImitationwhat garantees the guy wouldn’t get up?

[@default3740]

​@@LaelGames7913After the guy was at the ground the old man could have fleed instead of going closer and shot him

[@Sawyurm0m.c0m]

@@default3740flee from his house and let the criminal get up and steal everything?

[@Nonya1010]

Politicians hate it when you stand up for yourself

[@trashcubed4788]

Politicians don't decide what sentences a judge gives. If they could, seperation of powers would be broken.

[@specialoperatorlolbit8671]

​@@trashcubed4788 Isn't Spain a constitutional monarchy? Bro this isn't in America.

[@trashcubed4788]

@@specialoperatorlolbit8671 Spain is a democracy, and the monarchy is largely apolitical and neutral. They have an elected head of state; the monarch in most modern monarchies is actually more symbolic than anything. The power they have is theoretical and not actually acted upon since the parliament could disband them at any moment. There are very, very few absolute monarchies left in the world.

[@ziggenplays1208]

Cops hate it too

[@Sarge92]

@@specialoperatorlolbit8671 uk is a constitutional monarchy and that doesent mean what you think it means we have a king but the king does not call the shots he basically exists to make sure that we have a goverment we like the goverment (via electing them) and that they continue once elected to be working in faith of the people asside from that the king largley does not get involved

[@Gadzookss]

the fact that people who break in / attack,rob others can sue,arrest you for fighting back in self defence is crazy..

[@DeRealNiko]

Show me the part where the dude even try to attack old man

[@IbrahimAwais-b6x]

Did you not hear the part where he had 30 plus arrests?

[@DeRealNiko]

@@IbrahimAwais-b6x so? I didnt hear anything about him murdering anyone

[@IbrahimAwais-b6x]

@@DeRealNiko why did he have the chainsaw in his hand if he wasn't trying to kill anyone. You know damn well he would've killed the old man if given the chance

[@IbrahimAwais-b6x]

@@DeRealNiko so he should've let the guy roam around with a chainsaw right?

[@smoove_]

first shot was self defence, second shot was an execution

[@el_saltamontes]

Both are self defence, not that he shouldn't have the right to use lethal force to defend his life and his home, and be cheered for doing so.

[@princegobi5992]

@@el_saltamonteswell thank god he lives in a civilized country which doesn’t think like you. Stop trying to brain rot the rest of the world.

[@grindeyyyyy]

Go for the legs

[@Ittna]

​@@el_saltamontesLiterally isn't, the first shot made him not a threat, the second one was an execution. He shot the helpless man and executed him in cold blood. His sentence was not too harsh in any way, he should have never had a weapon to begin with.

[@el_saltamontes]

@@Ittna I will continue to be astounded by the people produced by this new global culture...

[@bladerunner9012]

“You were getting robbed and took actions to defend yourself but you’re in the wrong.”

[@yasininn76]

Let me rephrase that "your chainsaw was being stolen, so you, who had the complete drop on the burglar and was actually armed with a live firearm, shot him once, possibly incapacitating him, and then executed him. In cold blood. Your life wasn't threatened once, since the intruder wasn't armed and a chainsaw take a good 5 minutes to be turned on and makes way too noise to not wake up someone even if taken by surprise, yet you still decided to take him life by shooting him twice. And now you refuse to pay the family and be charged with what was, regardless of situation, manslaughter on all effects. " There, fixed it for ya bud

[@gmanley146]

​@@yasininn76this was a literal home invasion. He could have been packing a gun for all the owner knew.

[@yanderemuffin]

@@gmanley146 Yes, you're right, the home invader could've been packing a gun and deadly intent - but the home invader was shot in the back, and then executed while already downed and unable to act. It is 100% okay to attack someone who is invading your home, esspecially if they're holding a weapon (even an unarmed chainsaw can be used as a deadly weapon) - but self defence in basically every place on Earth says you can defend yourself until your life is no longer in danger, and a person lying on the floor after being shot with a shotgun is no longer a danger so the second shot wasn't self defence - it was murder.

[@Thatsnotus]

​@@yasininn76bro is defending a criminal☠️☠️

[@Coronel-z1d]

​@@yasininn76 stick to anime kid. You'd 💩 your pants at a roach. In Florida when someone steps on your lawn you fire until they stop moving without getting charged. In the US this guy wouldn't be going to jail only in a few European countries. Protecting illegal migrants/migrant criminals over their own citizens

[@joseagui4924]

That’s our justice system. Sometimes a rapist avoid jail with no investigation, but a man acting in self defence is sent to rot in jail

[@xondeez757]

This is Europe not backwards america. Guns are generally used by police and for hunting. Regular people cannot walk around with guns or at their homes for self defence. Self defence by killing is also extremely strict. You’re allowed to defend yourself but not with guns. This guy was lucky he only received 6 years Home insurance barely cost anything and you’re protected againts thieves. Why bother fighting someone for things that can be replaced? Your body cannot be replaced

[@TheAbyssal]

He was sent to jail cause he executed the dude

[@vancedvanced9188]

​@@TheAbyssalna he defended himself

[@nicholasgonzales8685]

It was an execution, the 1st shot was self defense, the 2nd shot was murder. The thief was no longer a threat after the first shot to justify a second shot

[@joseagui4924]

@@nicholasgonzales8685 Really now? I missed out on that part, I had no idea. Thanks for clarifying!

[@miguelcarunchod.1493]

Important fact: Even if the judge had given him 20 years, the old man can only be in jail for 5. That is because the Spain's law forbids every person over 85 years old to be in jail. Edit: This law seems to not be on paper, but old age is a huge factor when making an appealing of release.

[@eyeuehhejehe3122]

For someone his age thats not an only... plus depending on his finances 150k at the age of 85 coild be impossible

[@zFrankV]

Unless he saved up it is impossible since the normal old man gets 1k aprox​@@eyeuehhejehe3122

[@StevePorritt]

Is this for real? Why aren't Spanish pensioners robbing banks?

[@miguelcarunchod.1493]

@@StevePorritt at 85? I don't even believe they could carry the money bag.

[@SHAMIIZEN]

20 years for self defense but crimes like rape get only like 3 years...

[@JetMechTraveler]

It's because he shot the man a 2nd time when he was already incapacitated.

[@Fire-gf8wr]

As a honduran, I'm ashamed of people making our country and its population look bad. Nelson shouldn't have done those crimes, especially if the guy was part of the military and José had every right to defend himself against a man with a chainsaw, and his sentence is unfair. I hope he gets a lot of support and eventually wins the case.

[@jesusofbullets]

Nah, don’t be. The faults of a single person or a couple people don’t represent an entire country.

[@jackxiao9702]

Nothing to be ashamed of. The Spanish and Euros should be ashamed of their own people. The liberal retards in Spain, including a jury of civilians, chose to enable criminals and prosecute an old man defending himself.

[@johnwright9372]

He was probably stealing the householders chainsaw.

[@masonlazy2740]

You're right but the part the old guy got in trouble for is because he got close, and took another shot

[@Producemgnfoodcity]

Stay away

[@DogwoodDan]

That old man got done dirty

[@iloveplasticbottles]

He didn't. You just aren't allowed to close the distance to an intruder and shoot them twice after you've already downed them. This is even illegal in many US states too.

[@28BeEks]

​@@iloveplasticbottles shala boloder bachha (Cant understand my language)

[@dizzthenibbler4070]

​@@iloveplasticbottles he only shot him twice, once at close range. And no, it's only illegal in the states that don't allow you to defend yourself. It's called the castle doctrine, and anyone trained in firearms will tell you, you shoot till the threat isn't moving anymore. Which if you replay the video, is what he did. Even an injured lion can still bite.

[@aetherneedsbuff1294]

@@dizzthenibbler4070he was not moving anymore? He was on the ground. Ur saying u shoot till he is dead? Not gonna fly in Europe🙂‍↔️

[@Farce13]

​@@dizzthenibbler4070that's not what castle doctrine actually states. The second shot was murder

[@toxicrunner10zholo90]

30+ arrests he needed to go

[@joliax1646]

😂😂

[@nickhorde4419]

I wander where the justice system was then. It is very surprising how justice systems favor loosers and their families at the expense of honest people.

[@cobainxxx2142]

Why do white people always say shit like this

[@Trigger-H4ppy]

Saying he needed to go cracks me up lmao

[@Sergeant-John_Soap_MactTavish]

Just because you gotten arrested 30 plus times dosent mean you should die. Makes no fucking sense.

[@AlsoFin]

People need to think about this logically. he didnt need to shoot him twice. He had a shotgun at very close range, everyone knows thats powerful. There was no need to shoot him the second time from closer range. If it was simply for self defence he wouldn't try to kill the attacker, just stop them from attacking him.

[@scott-uy6zr]

If you think a bullet automatically immobilizes someone then you are dumb

[@caseyellis4480]

Everyone is getting away with everything lately except for this poor bastard. He did a public service.

[@Ralyx0]

First shot was self-defense. The second shot was murder.

[@RestingJudge]

​@@Ralyx0that's conjecture. You can easily frame it as him being fearful that the threat wasn't neutralized. Many instances of people taking multiple shots and still being able to kill.

[@Ralyx0]

@@RestingJudge I mean, you could... except the murderer admitted in court that he wasn't afraid of the intruder. Also, fear isn't a justification for self-defense. Reasonable fear is. The intruder was already on the ground with a gunshot wound and his murderer was still armed. Any threat from the thief was purely conjecture to begin with, let alone after he was shot.

[@Martial_Autist]

@@Ralyx0 Conjecture? A trained killer roaming your home is not conjecture. You don't know how far his intentions go and as the person whose house he's currently breaking into you don't need to. Fucking insanity to pretend otherwise. This story is a glaring indictment of the rule of law. Jails the victim for the home invader. If it leads to that who needs it. Protect yourselves, protect your families, and call NO-ONE!

[@Ralyx0]

@@Martial_Autist What's fucking insanity is to pretend that a man lying on the ground from being shot poses any sort of objectively reasonable immediate threat to someone leveling a gun at him and who is free to retreat at any point.

[@vfinewrld]

"Aye rookie" "Yeah?" "What u arrested for?" "Self defense" *Gasps* and runs away

[@Commando_224-jd7wl]

Can't believe i recognised the meme😅

[@nonsensewords8656]

​@Commando_224-jd7wl wait what is it

[@321Vietnam1]

They want people to live in fear. Defend yourself and go to jail. Don't defend yourself and become a victim. Shameful.

[@raminguseinov1580]

Sadly this happens everywhere and every single time.I for example was bullied in school and always defended myself against 3-4 people who chosen me their victim.Nobody actually even tried to help me.Situation is completely opposite.Everyone knew what they did.Actually everyone but treating me like I was doing something wrong only defending myself. Everyone acted like I was the biggest criminal in school

[@Nicolas_Fancypants]

Except that wasn’t self defense the buy didn’t even noticed Jose was there

[@stibbo]

The guy was down, he executed him

[@pbj5521]

Unfortunately this is what left wing ideology promotes. I thought it was just in the USA, but seems like it’s creeping all around the world. I just want to understand how democrats, leftists, liberals always manage to defend violent criminals and victimize the victim. We are so sick of it

[@Zazza62669]

​@@stibbo at least he won't recommit.

[@EOBM10]

This is literally what school do to does who fight back the bullies

[@choirkid6569]

Wow I didn’t know self defense was illegal…

[@mr.autismatikautomatik2363]

....when the laws are promulgated by sick morons😏.

[@Youmukonpaku0]

If someone break in my house (I live in Canada) i cannot use self defense

[@alessandromelis2074]

Here in Italy is even worse

[@babygronkfortnite]

You don't get closer to someone you shot if you're defending yourself. That's murder.

[@user-s8gma48zzl34]

This isn't America, in America, you have the amendments and the fact that "you're innocent until proven guilty", so this is fair considering that, like said before, this isn't america

[@nikapol25]

Why does the family deserve any money? Their relative was a criminal, and in the commission of a crime he was killed. Does the justice system think criminals families should be rewarded because they died committing a crime?

[@WednesdayAddamsMW]

In this particular case, it very much was justifiable homicide.

[@mr_ceiling7231]

Genuinely what can they even do against this guy. Hes pretty much too old for prison to hold any significant meaning to him. What happens if he doesn't even pay?

[@HungryLoki]

@@mr_ceiling7231 They confiscate his stuff, auction it off, then pay out of the earnings. Do you really think you can just say "NO" and won't have to pay anything?

[@marilyn.4224]

Spaniards need to get upset over that case. If it can happen to him, it can happen to them.

[@yanderemuffin]

@@marilyn.4224 He shot a man that was already on the ground, already been shot before, and was incapacitated. He committed murder, the first shot was fine, the second was not.

[@Ld7snake]

the fact that got him arrested was most likely the second shot into the body that tried to steal from him.

[@chrislbaird]

Yes! I think the double tap is what made the difference.

[@lilchristuten7568]

Nope a guy from Spain commented that in that situation you have to call the police and wait for them. If you do anything to the thief you can be sued by the thief and you will be found guilty.

[@snakekingblues3017]

@@lilchristuten7568 are they stupid that just help the thief smh

[@lilchristuten7568]

@@snakekingblues3017 Yeah they also said their politicians are corrupt.

[@oscureknight]

No, in Spain if the robber has not attacked you, you’re not entitled to defend yourself, he must first attack you, but there’s a trick, if let’s say they attack you (and you must be able to prove they attacked you) with a knife and the only two things you have to defend yourself is a gun and a spoon, you must use the spoon because if not, it’s considered not proportional and you’ll probably go to jail. In that aspect Spain is sh1t.

[@sirthomasevangelion1258]

The jury needs to be investigated and charged

[@heatherturner2366]

Over 30 thefts, yet the guy who defends his home and property from him gets arrested, tell me that court is in on it without telling me

[@Qwoppyy]

*30 thefts that he was caught for, lord knows how many more he had

[@BRLAB0]

YUP 😅

[@andreaspanayiotou628]

That just highlights your viewpoint being American-centric. In Europe it's a murder and a lighter sentencing likely due to other factors including self-defence.

[@thegamingmobster2768]

Dude there needs to be like a multiply for X amount of crimes you break. So theft = 1k and a year in jail, then keep doubling it the more it happens

[@0v_x0]

​@@thegamingmobster2768Unironically makes sense

[@cool0knight]

the irony of having to give 150k dollars to the guy's family even though the Guy tried to steal from you is WILD

[@DeRealNiko]

You people are more concerned about a chainsaw being stole than someone life you sir have failed humanity

[@cool0knight]

@@DeRealNiko wtf are you talking about?

[@joshbaron7704]

@@DeRealNiko nah you have failed in life if your option is to steal from an old man , heck its even more shameful if you were in the army

[@elijahaitaok8624]

​@@DeRealNikoimagine defending a scumbag serial thief

[@asdfafasf]

@@DeRealNikohow would the old guy have know if the man had a gun if someone’s breaking into your house you assume that they have one because not doing that can get you killed

[@cooldfran]

Spanish guy here! In Spain its illegal to kill for self-defense, if someome breaks into your house you cant do anything about it just call the police and beg they come faster than the theif leaves with your stuff

[@bobkoroua]

Exactly

[@thatoneguy4101]

Damn that sucks

[@HiênChâu-h9h]

That's... hard

[@_ChatSoCute_]

spain is fucking cooked

[@tina1061]

Yeah, while it's kinda legal here, you can only strike once to "scare them off". We had a similar case where the father killed a robber for self defense cause he wanted to protect his family 😢😢

[@hashimashadoo]

In Spain, you have the right to defend yourself if you're attacked, but you do not have the right to attack anyone. Since the homeowner stated that the intruder was not aware of the homeowner's presence, the intruder couldn't possibly, by the homeowner's own admission, have been attacking him when the homeowner shot him dead.

[@DrJesus-st9rk]

OMW to move to Spain because I can break into any home I want and take whatever I want and the law will unironically have my back if they do ANYTHING. LMAO

[@hashimashadoo]

@@DrJesus-st9rk I mean, you'll still get convicted of breaking and entering, and burglary.

[@deniceiscooking]

I saw trial footage, Jose actually insisted that he shot him for taking his property, not because he was scared.

[@Agent-57]

Its his Right to defend his property

[@sleepiecassidy]

that kinda makes jose case worst

[@deniceiscooking]

@@Agent-57 not in Spain...

[@J-ml9vu]

@@Agent-57 ur gonna kill someone for stealing a chainsaw?

[@chkensammich]

​@@deniceiscookingcuck country tbh

[@docstrife3749]

That's a case of corrupt politicians favoring criminals

[@Robert_4444]

nah, it's a case of life in europe

[@IeamNoon]

⁠@@Robert_4444yes. Europe protect and import criminals

[@MugSack]

@@Robert_4444 Nah its just spain and france

[@foogoose1439]

Just criminals helping other criminals

[@Cloud_that_looks_like_a_cat]

​@@MugSacksweden in the corner:

[@daniellozada1417]

At this point theyre just protect the criminals not the victims

[@Coronel-z1d]

It's always been like this

[@aikonakashi5621]

They protect people lives in general. Nobody deserves to die.

[@default3740]

​@@aikonakashi5621👍

[@Mercury-ok8ie]

​@@aikonakashi5621say that to pedophiles

[@trollernopecantsay9277]

​@@aikonakashi5621yeah well if I'm in that situation it's me that's going to live not the thief

[@Afiiaa-j2w]

Like, who the fuck let an unknown man in your house holding a fucking chainsaw

[@kaboon3489]

The issue is the second shot. The first one already neutralized the assailant. The second one was just an execution, that is, murder.

[@Tailstraw_xD]

If you're in a place that punishes you for defending yourself, you are in danger.

[@drip2007]

Second shot was considered murder, whos getting up after getting shot by a shot gun and starting up a chain saw

[@SergeantExtreme]

@@drip2007 Criminals on drugs. There are police reports of criminals shrugging off multiple rounds like it's nothing because they are on drugs (great example being PCP).

[@ZadenWoW]

​@@drip2007I don't get this? Why does it matter. Literally around of bullets changes nothing in America which is the place that lives and breathes guns. This logic is just ridiculous. 1 bullet or 12 makes no difference. Don't commit fucking crimes and find out.

[@mxb1585]

@@ZadenWoWthe same can be said if the other guy don’t do a crime by shooting someone then you don’t have to find out

[@genoobtlp4424]

@@SergeantExtremewell, pre aim and wait for him to get up again. Also, many countries simply don’t accept „it’s my home“ as a reason not to deescalate (in this case: get out of chainsaw range and call the cops)

[@Anaga_media]

As a Spaniard, I can say this is a very good example of how the justice system works in Spain

[@Neonblue84]

same nonsense here in Germany. If you defend yourself, you have to expect the full force of the legal system. You have to use as little force as possible. If you don't do it as described above, you can be charged with so-called "excessive self-defense" and will be punished. In addition, you will almost certainly have to pay "compensation" to the burglar, similar to this example.

[@kornx10]

It essentially the same every where in the west.

[@Wywern291]

I think a lot of people are misunderstanding the situation. He shot twice. The first shot was self-defense and put the guy on the ground. The second shot was an execution.

[@TarsonTalon]

Naw, I understand the situation perfectly. It's one less vote against freedom.

[@sw1nkz50]

@@TarsonTalonit’s summary execution, you are not judge, jury, and executioner

[@Whitexsz]

True,in the first shot he could just call the ambulance and then he probably wouldve get less years in jail

[@cheesynut]

I mean.. can you blame him for panicking and fear

[@sw1nkz50]

@@cheesynut Except according to his own account he wasn't afraid...

[@ultra6189]

As someone from Spain, this is true. If there's an intruder in your house, you can't defend yourself unless they strike first. And when you DO defend, it has to be with "reasonable force". Aka if someone stabs you with a knife, you can't shoot them, since guns are more lethal than knifes.

[@SpookyDaOpp]

Nah free my boy he ain't do nun 😭🙏

[@keyboardkween8744]

He's not a boy don't call him that.

[@Muffln]

This time saying this actually applies, he really ain't do nun.

[@Fire_Axus]

stop getting so emotional

[@ramudaamemura_]

​@@keyboardkween8744 Not everything in English is literal 💀 if I were to say "bro chill", that doesn't mean you're my actual brother

[@keyboardkween8744]

@@ramudaamemura_ Who died & made you my teacher?

[@jonathanpark7658]

Its probably the second shot while the guy was "no longer a threat"

[@crispy7499]

That's what I'm thinking. That's a big shotgun; he wasn't going anywhere. It went from self defense to an execution.

[@lyricallyunwaxable1234]

If the intruder hadn't put himself in that situation he wouldn't have got the double tap. Free José!

[@jonathanpark7658]

@@lyricallyunwaxable1234 sure, doesn't make it any less murder in the eyes of the law.

[@lyricallyunwaxable1234]

@@jonathanpark7658 Justice and law is becoming s joke. What if José was unarmed, what if it had been a lone female? . . . It should have been used as an example of don't go into a house if you haven't got permission. Free José!!!

[@jonathanpark7658]

@@lyricallyunwaxable1234 I'm not saying I agree or disagree, I'm simply saying I believe this is what happened.

[@SomeoneCold]

Schools when you fight against the bully:

[@SomeoneCold]

I made this comment before the top comment

[@KSLucid]

when a criminal with 36 arrests is still breaking into houses and is a potential threat for each one of them and he gets away overtime than those judges and jurry should be the one behind bars

[@MrHardkohr]

The double tap must be what got him in trouble

[@MrBennieagray]

Naw. Mtmy grandpa who was from Mexico said if your in the military you get more rights. I can only imagine other countries like that who are worse off.

[@crafcik1240]

@@MrBennieagray In poland a thief can sue you for tying him up during a robbery. He get's an out of jail pass while you get a sentence. That's how we keep out violence low

[@izzylee64]

That and probobly not making his presence know/warning him before shooting. Turned what easily could've been a slam-dunk self defense case into a case of excessive force one.

[@GhostscoperHD]

@@crafcik1240that makes no sense tho. How does letting criminals off easy help keep violence low?

[@saladv6069]

This is Europe. Killing, even in self defense, is a big no-no.

[@ronxygar699]

Where's the logic of the jury? Trespassing and theft done and he has no rights to defend.

[@aetherneedsbuff1294]

There is no jury in Spain as far as I know

[@listey]

There's no justification for what he did. He killed a man for no good reason and has been punished. If anything 6 years seems like a light sentence.

[@rando9535]

​@@listey Yes.. cause someone breaking into your house and walking around with a chainsaw in their hand is not a good enough reason.

[@JanMaynz]

He certainly has a right to defend, but his method was flawed and hard to justify. Many crooks would drop and run at the mention of a gun being pointed at them. Dude apparently didn't say a word before firing. Then, with the intruder ON THE GROUND, he shoots him again? Nah, fam, that's not cool. That's when you call the police. It is NOT when you make sure the threat will never be one again. From the information given, murder sounds harsh but is technically accurate. He shot a man twice without warning, killing him. Might've been an intruder and thief, but he may not have even realized the homeowner was in the room... (Until getting shot, ofc) hard to justify self-defense when the person you're defending yourself from doesn't realize you're present. Too many issues with the information given. If I had to play jury based on this info, I'd be inclined to convict.

[@larissagomes451]

​@@JanMaynzyes, he was dead wrong for not giving a dude holding a chainstain the chance of killing him, he should have say "what you doing, buddy?" He took no chances 😂😂😂 easy for you to say when this did not happen to you.

[@Unknowerr404]

I mean the second shot is probably what did it

[@hubertushostihayuanta8873]

He's 80. He had to be sure.

[@JimBobSmithJrIV]

"he's one shot bro!!"

[@dnkmarci]

@@hubertushostihayuanta8873that’s exactly the point dumb fk

[@cdjamse3944]

How are people forgetting this guy had a chainsaw, stuff out of horror movies. I wouldn’t take any chances either

[@OWnIshiiTrolling]

If the second shot was fired when the other guy was already on the ground, then it was excessive. Self defense is for defense, not retribution. If there is no credible threat, then there is no defense.

[@cultofhampter]

Thieves with literal killing machines in their hands when someone actually fights back: 😱😱😱😱

[@agentotten]

He lost more money than being robbed.

[@idkman-wf2pw]

This man would survive a horror movie EASILY

[@TarsonTalon]

Sadly, he's stuck in a dystopian novel...

[@MadSkull]

Here in Italy we have the same problem too. If a thief breaks into your home you have to wait to receive a shot from the delinquent before shooting back. If you shoot first you get arrested for "negligent excess of self-defense"

[@sergionobili7075]

Which is also why the say 'better a nasty trial than a good funeral' has gotten so widespread.

[@no_one01-5]

Same in most of Europe. No wonder this continent is so easy to invade.

[@baconboi4482]

@@no_one01-5as if getting access to firearms wasn’t a hassle enough for yawl

[@yanderemuffin]

Yeah, because it isn't self defence when your life isn't in danger? But also it wasn't the first shot that was the problem, it was the second shot to a man incapacitated on the ground who had just been shot by a shotgun... Self defence in basically every country (even non-european ones as a comment below tried to say) doesn't count it as self defence if you attack someone after they're no longer a threat.

[@sergionobili7075]

@@yanderemuffin Well, true, at least I believe so: after incapacitation (even if it results in immediate death) it stops being protecting yourself and yours from harm.

[@speed65752]

The second shot turned the self defence into murder.

[@elpepe2.030]

As a Spaniard, the criminal has more rights than the worker, Literally the law tells you that the intruder has to attack you first, so when the intruder cuts off your arm with a chainsaw or he makes you a sieve with bullets you now can defend yourself

[@Element67]

Law is made to protect the criminals

[@feelincrispy7053]

No it’s not. It’s there stop to a society from going rouge and in turn collapsing

[@Lakeman3211]

Don’t bother calling these in, just clean up…..

[@k1rill_krutoi]

Yeah, cause everything totally *is* this simple

[@Iron_Dragon999]

@@k1rill_krutoicould be actually the thief more then likely wouldn’t have said where he was going to anyone since he was sneaking around and stealing therefore you could potentially clean it up like nothing happened only issue is the bang from the gun but if you’re good at talking you can probably make up something

[@swedenisthemotherland3952]

@@Iron_Dragon999 Remember that he is an old fellow, he cant clean this up and dig a grave and drag a dead body and bury it. He would have to call somebody to help with all of that.

[@omega777-]

The main problem is that in Spain (i'm spanish) is illegal to hurt someone even in self defense so what police often says is that if you selfdefended yourself don't call them, this applies even if you punched an attacker who had a firearm

[@ed4348]

The fact the thief was unaware of his presence and the fact he shot a second time to make sure he was dead is most likely the reason why he was sentenced

[@matthewphilip2609]

People in the comments are taking things at face value there was no reasonable evidence it was purely self defense because jose ambushed the man and shot him a second time to make sure he was dead so it still make sense that the court ruled it that way we dont know the whole story.

[@vitriolveio]

So they expected him to alert the thief and allow the thief to start attacking him while holding a chainsaw??

[@alexandercampbell9165]

@@vitriolveioI think it was mainly the double tap

[@scaramanga2806]

​@@vitriolveio Why would he attack him? Old man could've just threaten him so he would leave

[@vanthursday]

Are we gonna ignore the fact that the thief is holding a chainsaw

[@JackOusley]

Having 36 prior arrests shouldn’t even be possible. Should be in jail for life long before 36.

[@blangbakk]

Spania har andre lover enn i USA.

[@erredose]

In spain there is a socialist goverment, and socialists love criminals

[@killuagato6887]

In Spain there are rapists and killers that have served their sentences in the streets.

[@pjfolster3124]

“Fear and self defense” “shot him intill he was no longer moving”

[@Indescribableopinions]

Didnt realize the %13 in spain applied to Hondurans

[@supercharlie4094]

As a mexican, the truth is that at least in all spanish speaking countries (except for El Salvador) laws are designed to protect criminals while putting as mamy inocent people in jail as possible

[@michaelnguyen823]

That is a f#@/

[@popeagapitusi8]

this occured in spain not some south american shithole.

[@caralho5237]

Thats because the government's sole goal is to demoralize, pacify and control the productive people. Making them perpetually afraid and unable to fight back is one way of achieving that

[@haroldgōdwinessunu]

How the mighty have fallen.

[@zachvanderpool9111]

A man with a chainsaw in Spain have they never heard of resident evil 4 he probably thought dude was dr salvador 😂

[@YuriLifeLove]

OMG... This is one of the funniest shit I've ever read in my life!

[@kaoe145]

When you no longer have the right to defend yourself, how can you be considered free.

[@magneric]

In that case, you'll have to take that right back

[@theadamp23]

Justice in many countries only pertains to the rich

[@matswessling6600]

you have the right to defend yourself. He wasnt defending himself.

[@AethusalaAeon]

Light on crime is just another epidemic of idiocy

[@illidanST7F]

Im guessing it was for the double tap, that changed it from Defense to Attack on their minds.

[@icedragonaftermath]

Yep, especially because he said he never feared for his life and killed the guy solely for stealing from him. If you're not doing it in self-defense, that's just murder. Not premeditated or first-degree murder, sure, but still a second-degree murder. And yeah, that double-tap to make sure he was dead and not just wounded definitely doesn't help his case. He made sure that guy was dead before he called emergency services and told them he killed a guy and all the evidence corroborated the story he presented. Also, the presence of a firearm is generally considered an aggravating component to any charge. Given a second-degree murder without that aggravating component might solicit 1-4 years imprisonment in Spain, so I can see overall how this happened. Also, as a side note, he would be subject to a 1-6 year ban from using a firearm after murdering someone with one. That said, I still feel weird about the overall 6 year imprisonment within that framework, especially for an individual approaching end of life themselves who might just die in prison. That makes this a life sentence when that doesn't seem to have been the intent.

[@Trikipum]

@@icedragonaftermath No, he is over 80, people over 80 dont go to prison in spain.. the main issue is the 150.000 euros, which basically bankrunpt him and his whole family, because you know.. it is a 80 year old, and when he dies, it is his kids the ones who will have to pay it...

[@icedragonaftermath]

@@Trikipum Yeah, how did they justify that for this case? I really wouldn't expect him to be able to pay for that in a timely manner whatsoever.

[@iampointless]

I agree ​@@icedragonaftermath

[@MOperator]

@@icedragonaftermath well, he shouldn't have to pay anything

[@UnstableTeslaCoil8299]

You can tell civilization is failing when you get penalized for protecting your own home

[@RogueVigilante]

Classic case of the Criminal Justice System Protecting the Criminals and Imprisoning the Innocent

[@lordjakob7052]

Your comment is ignorance of the highest degree

[@nyaboron9239]

​@lordjakob7052 you clearly didn't watch the video, or approve of the government locking up citizens for defending themselves.

[@HungryLoki]

@@nyaboron9239 The first shot could be rated self defense. The second shot was an execution, so he was rightfully convicted of murder.

[@nyaboron9239]

@@HungryLoki middle of the night, just woken up, in a panic from seeing someone who shouldn't be there, you shoot. The blast blinds/deafens you and you're still full of adrenaline. There's no way you're thinking clearly in that scenario to accurately assess the danger level. The burglar forfeit his right to life upon entry. Convict the man if he left, spent 5 minutes calling the cops, and then came back and shot him. Don't convict someone for panicking in a self defense situation. There's no way you act completely calm in that situation.

[@cyansius3950]

@@nyaboron9239 HungryLoki is correct at least in the U.S. and most other countries also didn't help that hit him from the back, and if the other comments are anything to go off of, apparently you're not allowed to off an intruder in Spain. Personal opinion is that people make mistakes, and while I would never want to harm another person if you break into my house I am going to fear for my life and be afraid you might do something else to me because I'm a woman before you end my life. I do think that the courts do not take into proper account the fear a person might feel by having a person enter their homes. It is definitely something that even thinking about gives me chills, and someone might act in a way to defend themselves that rational minds would not find correct. So my proposal would be, if you break into someone's house, and you end up killing them, not from a booby trap or something else, then you should not be charged and it should be assumed to be self-defense or a panicked decision that should result in no jailtime, unless proven otherwise. In most cases currently, the self-defense is taken into consideration but not the later part, maybe this guy didn't fear for his life, maybe he didn't make a panicked decision, maybe that's why he was sentenced, maybe it was just an outlash of anger. I think the first shot was fear for his life, the second when he was on the ground seems like it was anger. Though it's also possible he panicked because he just shot someone and was worried they might retaliate, idk.

[@insane671]

36 prior arrests? This man did what everyone else was afraid to do.

[@WetzforLife]

This is happening a lot more often in countries. It's sad when defending yourself and your property is crime.

[@teoteo6185]

@WetzforLife By the info given here, it sounds like he shot at range and then walked up to him and finished him. That second shot is no longer «defending» yourself

[@johnanon658]

@@teoteo6185he had no way of knowing how good the 1st shot was, it if would necessarily prevent the guy from getting up and killing him.

[@johnanon658]

@@teoteo6185many ppl fall when shot just because they think they are supposed to from a lifetime of TV etc. but often times they can get back up as adrenaline kicks in. Could of been bird shot, could have been a grazing shot the first time. Old man did the right thing to make sure he was safe. Easy for you to Monday morning quarterback when you are not a 80 yr old man in life or death situation in middle of the night w some unknown intruder. Where is the frikin king of spain here, he needs to issue Pardon!!

[@NcessNasya]

I'm your 69th Likes? NOICE!! 👴🏼🔫

[@Vettel_Ronaldo]

@@teoteo6185 their is no way of knowing if they are still able to attack you

[@burhan6512]

“Just don’t defend yourself next time, wait for us instead.”

[@theeviloverlord7320]

"Don't double tap someone lying on the floor" fixed it

[@VioletPistols]

“Wait for us to come collect your long dead body from the scene of the crime and then proceed to not solve the case” 💀

[@victororona5445]

It was the 2nd shot. Once the burglar was down and no longer a threat. If you shoot a wounded man who isn't a threat then that is no longer self-defense

[@foakjljrwajkltawtrawtwa441]

He shot in the dark lol, are you sure he saw the guy at the first shot?

[@convenientplayer1447]

​@@foakjljrwajkltawtrawtwa441Laws are laws, and unfortunately, the best option to do in that situation turned out to be illegal in the eyes of the legal system

[@Kaname_TB]

Finally someone he knows basic law

[@tesmat1243]

​@@foakjljrwajkltawtrawtwa441he saw well enough to aim on the ground

[@gaiusjuliuscaesar9296]

It was dark, how could he know the man wasn’t still a threat?

[@SuperSonicFan172]

First mistake: Calling the cops.

[@RubenGarcia-pt8tp]

The same thing almost happened to my grandfather, also in Spain. Came home to find his house had been broken into, so he grabbed a gun (not a real one, one with compressed air used to hunt birds that is still dangerous). The thief wasn’t at the house any longer, but talking to the police they told him that if he had been and my grandfather had shot him he would have been in deep trouble

[@kenham6742]

So even after being unalived, the thief still makes off with $150,000 of the guy's money!

[@t-7777]

Even tho he stole stuff like come on still is not a victim

[@kenham6742]

@@t-7777 Recluse to steel, isn't it?

[@MyDogIsaWarCriminal]

Buddy youtube isnt gonna ban your comment for saying “kill”

[@unforgiven1889]

​@@MyDogIsaWarCriminal bro I hate that shit it's like just say the word dude

[@michaelamundson4715]

​@@MyDogIsaWarCriminal😊 it might, but context is important. Nothing happens in a vacuum.

[@WenzelSays]

first shot was self defense. second shot was murder. is what im assuming the government argued

[@Somoslospastores]

The thing is that they have "defense levels" so a knife it's equal to a chainsaw and the shotgun is a higher level, so if you fight someone with a higher level weapon you have the high ground and the other must surrender, if he doesn't "you are abusing your power against them".

[@switch_lp1302]

Yes

[@xenmaifirebringer552]

​@@Somoslospastores yeah, rumours say the guy was using a legendary shotgun +10, pretty overpowered if you ask me

[@justanotheremptychannel2472]

​@@Somoslospastores I mean, if you are upstairs with a pistol a guy with a knife wouldn't be able to charge you, it makes sense in this instance

[@TarsonTalon]

Well, then they don't need that government.

[@10KC20MG]

Bruh back then they used to cut a thief's hand for the crime, this guy did it again and again until someone literally put him down 😒

[@openforumtalkz4651]

Idk if I've got all the details here, but this is so unfair from the looks of it...Poor José😢

[@karebear78]

I hope the old man gets justice.

[@kubaGR8]

He did. He's a murderer and got charged with an appropriate sentence.

[@EatTheHomeless674]

@@kubaGR8Bot alert

[@pablopastenesrojas378]

​@@EatTheHomeless674he double tapped the guy for no reason, nobody is gonna get back up after getting shot with a shotgun in a short distance

[@FreiWild1776]

@@pablopastenesrojas378 Don't break into my terriotry or you are done,simple as

[@user-fp1yz3nw4g]

@@pablopastenesrojas378robber comment

[@SomeoneCold]

That chainsaw prob broke the floor after the intruder fell

[@FusionScythe123]

he never said it was on

[@SomeoneCold]

Don’t ruin it

[@Schilani]

@@FusionScythe123 The thief wanted to steal the chainsaw. It would be the stupidest move to turn it on, while still in the home of whoever you are robbing.

[@FusionScythe123]

@@Schilani oh yeah, forgot about that

[@miriamart9712]

He was charged for murder because of the second shot. I believe they say when the perpetrator is down he/she is no longer a threat.

[@1vonehrenkrook]

It SHOULD cause outrage!!!

[@tyran7269]

I mean he did finish him off on the ground, I think the second shot wasn't necessary if the man was already down and didn't try getting back up to attack him...

[@TheDragonLake]

I bet the problem lies in the second shot. Once disabled or running away, self defense laws usually end and no amount of "I was still riled up and scared they'd cone back" works

[@Kazihirom]

In Kentucky, you won’t even be arrested for killing an intruder

[@charlesatanasio]

Protect your right to self defense.

[@freckles6424]

defending yourself against the school bully and getting caught by the teacher be like:

[@DeRealNiko]

Thats like saying school shooting is justified. Self defense and murder is not the same

[@zephyr8072]

@DeRealNiko That you even compare the two demonstrates how stupid you are. Stop talking, your parents need to revoke your youtube privileges.

[@lime7962]

​@@DeRealNiko are you retarded?

[@user-fp1yz3nw4g]

@@DeRealNikoyou live in the suburbs and have never been in a life threatening situation, please be quiet

[@DeRealNiko]

@@user-fp1yz3nw4g you just want to kill someone please seek professional help

[@Deadburd]

Same thing happened to a relative. A thief fell through a window on the roof while trying to break in and SUED my relative for the injury

[@theorangereacher1213]

Tell me the f*cking thief lost

[@gummy2bear358]

what did he even sue him for?????

[@TheJanstyler]

"Same thing." The thing that happened to your relative is dumb. The thing that happened here was murder, plain and simple.

[@StreakyBaconMan]

Either you're a liar or your relative is a liar. The case you're talking about is literally from 1982, and it was a SCHOOL that got sued not a homeowner. It also never made it in front of a judge or a jury, because the schools insurance company decided it was cheaper to offer the man a settlement instead.

[@ratgoggles]

Well there's a difference between shooting to defend yourself and shooting to kill. It's that second shot once they were incapacitated that probably swung the jury.

[@siomaiwrapper5229]

So we cant protect ourselves inside our homes now? Dear politicians, just pass a law saying trespassing, stealing and looting are all legal and self defense is illegal. This world is turning crazy!

[@wolftorap]

It’s spain

[@Felix-xv3wg]

😐

[@MiyuwiTV]

Always has been crazy

[@elijahaitaok8624]

​@@wolftorapdid he fucken stutter?

[@bingyboi6303]

It was the second shot

[@caljukes]

the 2nd shot turned it into an execution

[@mansfieldfamily5389]

And that’s totally reasonable for a man who broke into your home carrying a lethal weapon

[@godyoshida8433]

Probably the jury that handled this case has smooth brain

[@ric6611]

Most likely had no jury. You're applying a country's judicial system to a different one.

[@godyoshida8433]

@@ric6611 fair

[@willoe55]

Jury judges evidence and most likely they found that his actions did not classify as self defense. If this video isnt leaving out crucial information it sounds like he didnt attempt other actions first and immediately escalated the situation to lethal force. Self defense in most nations means youve tried everything else first and fighting back is the only option left.

[@fuxkag3908]

Since when is execution not murder

[@Ralyx0]

First shot was self-defense. The second shot was murder.

[@landon1626]

Yep he's a murderer....the threat was over the guy was shot on the ground and he shot him again- that's murder.

[@DarkSnowGaming1]

I think the reason why he went to jail was because he shot the guy again when he was already down.

[@marthamuller1757]

If you're 80 years old, you don't want the man with the chainsaw to move again.

[@bingyboi6303]

@@marthamuller1757so you get in front of him to shoot him? That doesn’t sound safe for him to do plus he admited that wasn’t the case

[@CCCPRusRus]

​@@marthamuller1757So you shoot him on the ground? I'm sorry, it's not the 1300s anymore, you can't just become Judge Judy and executioner whenever you want

[@Flight042]

@@CCCPRusRus Man breaks into your home at night. Are you going to risk the well being of your family and kids? Burgler made the choice breaking in. Do stupid things win stupid prizes.

[@CCCPRusRus]

@@Flight042 Well he was already on the ground, so he would not be a threat anymore. The first shot was self-defense. The second was murder.

[@dario2691]

1st shot was self defence, the second shot was murder

[@GrattonBOT]

Someone with logic!

[@ScorchedTemales]

​@@GrattonBOT not logic

[@izzylee64]

1st shot wouldn't be considered self-defense either in a lot of place(not sure about Mexico) because the intruder was completely unawre of the man. 2nd shot definitely sealed his fate though.

[@Dora_D_Destroyer]

The 2nd shot put him in jail. Just a matter of who's the better attorney at that point.

[@Coronel-z1d]

Another moron in the comments. In the states he would be free from day 1. In Spain self defence is illegal. You can't punch people back or shoot intruders 🤣

[@luciferblood]

​@@Coronel-z1d hypocrite

[@sampowers8995]

Well, the first shot was most definitely defending his property. The second was murder by virtue of execution. Especially if the intruder was already laid out