The Most Versatile Voltage Converter you never heard of! The (S)EPIC Converter

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@jostsalathe
@jostsalathe 2 жыл бұрын
I once tried prototyping a 1A buck LED driver that operates at around 1 MHz on a bread board. This ultimately drove me to begin my bachelor's degree in electrical engineering because I had no idea why the heck this just wouldn't work! Today I do know why... =D
@After_Tech_Industries
@After_Tech_Industries Жыл бұрын
What wasn't working? I presume that it might have been the frequency; but I still want to know!
@jostsalathe
@jostsalathe Жыл бұрын
@@After_Tech_Industries To be honest, I never actually checked what was the problem. So "Today I have some ideas why" would have been more correct. I think the main reason was the high contact resistance in the bread board contacts along the high frequency, high current path. I think the losses there probably screwed up the feedback loop of the regulator. Another probable problem was that the MIC2301 driver chip that I used has an integrated high side switch and therefore its SOIC8 package has an ePad at the bottom for cooling. The SOIC adapter board I used didn't connect to that, of course. I think it then also overheated way more quickly than I expected.
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
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@prashanthb6521
@prashanthb6521 Ай бұрын
In my case I ultimately put it in a box in an attic and forgot all about it. I got an output but it was inefficient and oscillating. Without an oscilloscope its not worthwhile to design an SMPS at home.
@vishnustechcorner3881
@vishnustechcorner3881 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are truly informative. It provides me with a lot of electronics knowledge as a hobbyist. Keep going. Also get well soon. You are great, scott :)
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton
@vishnustechcorner3881
@vishnustechcorner3881 2 жыл бұрын
@@greatscottlab I'm so glad that you replied to my comment 😊
@jclowe735
@jclowe735 2 жыл бұрын
​@@greatscottlab what is the amps of this and could I safely use something like this with a 12 volts 20 watts solar panel?
@manoelbrasileiro1127
@manoelbrasileiro1127 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, they're very nice. But I think there's an error on the schematics presented for the DIY SEPIC (on 10:20): there's no connection to gnd for Q1 (and L2, C4, C5).
@ChristopherOYoung
@ChristopherOYoung 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video.
@Teth47
@Teth47 2 жыл бұрын
I was researching the different topologies to decide which one to design a low-voltage DC UPS around, and kept hearing that SEPIC is unstable against transient loads. It'd be interesting to see a video on how different topologies react to different types of loads.
@FreeTheUyghurs
@FreeTheUyghurs 2 жыл бұрын
Hey sounds like the situation I found myself in too! Surprised there isn't more commercial options around this given how often you'd think home users would just want an uninterrupted DC power source for their home network and other DC-powered electronics. My setup at the moment is a small server rack with a 15V DC PSU and a 12V Lead Acid battery (+ battery tender) with their ground connections tied. The output voltages are separated by diodes, thus creating a sort of "OR-ing" device. That gate's output is connected to a powerpole rigrunner so that I can split all my components to separate SEPIC converters to ease the change in load and to also not have a single point of failure. So far so good but then again I'm only running raspberry pi's, switches, and a router at the moment.
@kenmore01
@kenmore01 2 жыл бұрын
My experience is any SMPS will be unstable with transient loads. Go ahead and use one, but either have a huge cap, a battery or some other stable transient source to keep it from blowing out your electronics, or add a linear low-drop-out regulator at the end. It could even run saturated for low loss, but will prevent the voltage from going too high. That said, I suspect this SEPIC is worse than most SMPSs.
@profdc9501
@profdc9501 2 жыл бұрын
Many power supplies are based on a dual control loop topology, with an outer loop with conventional voltage control PWM and inner loop based on current mode control. This tends to protect the power supply against transient loads, especially short circuits and the like. Something like UC3843 and like series of chips may be more stable with a SEPIC converter. There is a sense resistor in series with the source of the switch to control switch currents, and there is an outer control loop that senses the voltage.
@Teth47
@Teth47 2 жыл бұрын
@@chaosdragon6718 These are the reasons I moved away from SEPIC topology. I'm currently exploring flyback and push-pull, but stepping from designing buck converters to these more advanced topologies is pretty daunting.
@k4be.
@k4be. 2 жыл бұрын
There is also a four-switch buck-boost converter. Maybe look at BQ25713 for an example.
@seanman6541
@seanman6541 2 жыл бұрын
SEPIC converters are great for applications where the output power is low. For higher power applications, there is the two-switch non-inverting buck-boost converter. It is simply a combination of a buck and a boost converter. When the input voltage is higher than the output, it holds the “boost” switch open and modulates the “buck” switch. When the input voltage is lower than the output, it holds the “buck” switch closed and modulates the “boost” switch.
@yeyuan6273
@yeyuan6273 2 жыл бұрын
it will be priblematic in between, .....
@electroinduction1512
@electroinduction1512 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes another great scott video! Awesome video,very informational about the sepic convertor!
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@mitsos_306
@mitsos_306 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video! What I always love , is the use of paper, pen and markers!
@rhodexa
@rhodexa 2 жыл бұрын
What I like about this design is the "self destruct" protection capability: One of my biggest fears when using Buck Converters specifically is that, when the switching transistor fails, it will most likely go shortcircuit (which in buck converters means the full input voltage will get to the output) destroying the load with overvoltage. In contrast, this design will not only let the voltage go low but also may just blow a fuse or trigger an overcurrent protection. This feature/bug is also present in synchronous buck converters: if one transistor fails, as soon the second one turns on, the whole thing will just go shortcuit and trigger a protection system before the output voltage can get high enough to kill the load. But maybe I've too much of a green mind for a disposing culture society?
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
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@sc0or
@sc0or 2 ай бұрын
Why wouldn’t you use flyback/forward topologies? They require only an extra coil, which is nothing. But instead offer useful p/s ratio and an isolation level
@rhodexa
@rhodexa 2 ай бұрын
@@sc0or Absolutely! In some cases using flyback/forward types are just too bulky, some devices do not require it. computers, graphics cards, perhaps? Also, high efficiency isolated supplies are more expensive to build, specially for small form factors. But yes! I absolutely agree with that! I love isolated supplies, they come with so many benefits
@Niels_Dn
@Niels_Dn 2 жыл бұрын
I love using SEPIC in my designs. The biggest benefit is that they are inherently failsafe, there is no fault mode in which the input voltage can be on the output. Also if you need positive and negative rails, you can use the same regulator chip for SEPIC and inverting.
@MD-vs9ff
@MD-vs9ff 2 жыл бұрын
C1 fails short.
@Niels_Dn
@Niels_Dn 2 жыл бұрын
There is a chance yes, but if I remember correctly from Siemens’ SN29500 the chance is relatively small. And then you can split up C1 to make the design even more robust.
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
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@rougenaxela
@rougenaxela 2 жыл бұрын
Some years ago I designed and built my own SEPIC converter, and used an off-the-shelf part for coupled inductors with one core. Before I built it, I actually did simulations of coupled vs separate inductors and it helped the ripple out a bit. Once built, it worked quite well. My board also included a Ćuk converter which is basically when you take a SEPIC and swap the placement of the second inductor and diode, resulting in a negative voltage with very similar specs. Made for a nice stable+versatile bipolar +-12V supply.
@melplishka5978
@melplishka5978 2 жыл бұрын
Your definitely one of the most intelligent you tubers lol. Live your channel. When I finally get my parts replaced and back too work I’m definitely funding your channel lol. Ty for your time and research my friend.
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@farosrohmangeloraramadan3897
@farosrohmangeloraramadan3897 2 жыл бұрын
@@greatscottlab Next project Cuk Converter pleaseeeeee
@kenmore01
@kenmore01 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Scott! I suspect your ferrite toroid had issues due to saturation, due to the uni-directional currents in it. Either add a small gap by using a multi part core, or go with high permeability powdered iron.
@dianeattaway8733
@dianeattaway8733 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are delightfully concise with surprising details and always inspire greater things
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
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@ccoder4953
@ccoder4953 2 жыл бұрын
I have alot of experience with SEPIC and Cuk converters. Coupled inductors are great. They can be more efficient (alot of variables there though), they have better dynamics (dual inductor SEPICs and Cuks have some high frequency resonance that can make compensation harder), and the overall solution size can be smaller than for dual inductors. What I've seen is for name brand (like Coilcraft and Wurth) inductors, prices are comparable between two singles and a coupled. But the market for singles is bigger, so its easier to find other manufacturers of singles. Also, worth pointing out that I've heard Dr Cuk is adamant that a Cuk converter built with a coupled inductors isn't really a Cuk converter.
@Blox117
@Blox117 2 жыл бұрын
lol "cuk"
@ccoder4953
@ccoder4953 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blox117 It's named for en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slobodan_%C4%86uk . Funny name perhaps, but he's Serbian, that is his name, and that is indeed what it's called.
@triffid0hunter
@triffid0hunter 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blox117 Apparently it's pronounced 'chook'
@Blox117
@Blox117 2 жыл бұрын
@@triffid0hunter oh i see, there is an accent mark
@yeyuan6273
@yeyuan6273 2 жыл бұрын
dude, the sepic is noesing as fk, but i have to use it, how to reduce the ripple to 5mv under 12v at 3a? i have tried everything........rc lc re apsorbtion, comm choke, what i did wrong? it keep around 100mv at 1a ar 12v, i cant knock it down further.......
@y2ksw1
@y2ksw1 2 жыл бұрын
This is without doubt a very useful project
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade 2 жыл бұрын
You have some of the best electronics videos.
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks :-)
@basviel6288
@basviel6288 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for All your video's. I have a SEPIC converter in Simulation program LTCad XVII. But NO matter WHAT i do, the current through the LOAD is Reversed. Till I saw this Video ! With D2 connected between Vcc and GND. NOW it Works ! Great Scott !
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
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@andrebartels1690
@andrebartels1690 2 жыл бұрын
Although I'm not an electronics guy, I like your videos a lot, because they are very informative and understandable.
@schaltnetzteil495
@schaltnetzteil495 9 ай бұрын
I actually built a SEPIC converter on a perfboard recently. It can output up to around 50W of power and comes with an efficiency of around 80-85%. Anyway, great and educational video!
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
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@jameshancock
@jameshancock 2 жыл бұрын
What happens to efficiency if you make it synchronous? I’d think you’d get it way more efficient. I’d love to see more videos on boost/buck with ultra high efficiency for sure.
@chrishartley1210
@chrishartley1210 2 жыл бұрын
Synchronous 4-switch devices are much more efficient and can handle much higher currents. Of course the down side is that they are much more expensive and are also becoming quite hard to find. My preference for stable voltages with very little ripple are ones based on the LTC3780, the output is so stable that I have very successfully used them for mobile radio, something which is near impossible with most non-linear converters. I realised early on that Sepic devices would not be adequate.
@jameshancock
@jameshancock 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrishartley1210 ya a full bridge is a solution but the problem with full bridges is that they require p channel high side which means you can’t use ganfets. I’m wondering if sepic with the diode replaced with another fet woold get you to n channel nirvana.
@chrishartley1210
@chrishartley1210 2 жыл бұрын
@@jameshancock The 3780 (and 3789) drives 4 N-channel MOSFETs.
@jameshancock
@jameshancock 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrishartley1210 wow. Gotta see how they do that because a pump can’t work so how are they keeping the top fets open 100% of the time?
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS 2 жыл бұрын
It’s kind of amazing that buying two inductors is significantly cheaper than a single coupled one. I suppose there’s just not a big enough market for them to compete on price, huh? Super cool video! Especially the DIY circuit at the end.
@kenmore01
@kenmore01 2 жыл бұрын
Winding a single is much easier than winding a dual with most winding machines.
@sanjikaneki6226
@sanjikaneki6226 2 жыл бұрын
nice, often i see boost buck and sepics being combined IC that efficiency seems low tho at 60% a LDO may be better ( if it is lowering) Also maybe make a video about the energy efficiency of all those converters .
@fcvgarcia
@fcvgarcia 2 жыл бұрын
Great shot, Scott!!! Thanks.
@chaosdragon6718
@chaosdragon6718 2 жыл бұрын
For higher currents, a 4 switch buck-boost will always be the better solution. SEPIC (as well as inverting CUK type ) switches VIN+Vout on its switch node and carries the large du/dt EMI problem. And you switch more current than Iout. That to a much larger Hot loop which includes the SEPIC coupling capacitor. In essence, you store the complete transfer energy in the inductive components so those inductors have to be sized that way.
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
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@dunghowproduction5238
@dunghowproduction5238 2 жыл бұрын
Sir i love your hand writing
@johntoe6127
@johntoe6127 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I've been using these buck/boost converters in my projects for several years. They work great, and allow you to use almost any DC cube power supply without worrying about input voltage.
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott! Thank You for all the GREAT videos!! :-)
@alis990
@alis990 2 жыл бұрын
TL494 is awesome choice. You can even make ~240V DC boost to drive vacuum tubes. Not recommend for beginners, but you can check out Mr Carlson's Lab.
@PeetHobby
@PeetHobby Жыл бұрын
I think you can build a boost converter circuit on a perfboard but you must put the components much closer together, the distance you use wouldn't work properly on any PCB type I think. All datasheets of switching power supply IC's are always hammer on that you must keep the loops as short as possible.
@dragoscucu3128
@dragoscucu3128 2 жыл бұрын
Also USB 1-30V CC CV converters are using SEPIC topology. They are really handy to use, but the efficiency is about 60%
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
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@CableWrestler
@CableWrestler 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding videos in every aspect AGAIN. I truly respect you.
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate :-)
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, dude! Thanks a lot! 😃 I'm definitely going to look around for those!!! Stay safe and creative there! 🖖😊
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You too!
@onjofilms
@onjofilms 2 жыл бұрын
3:00 your Bosch washing machine is done.
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
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@huseyinozsut9949
@huseyinozsut9949 2 жыл бұрын
I found a moderately high power (5a or 60w) buck/boost converter. What I found was a decrease in efficiency, increase in heat. My aim was to power 4g modem/router on boats, which operates in high temperatures (on sea, on summer, in Turkey). Boats are like cars, while engine is running voltage contains lots of jitter due to charging alternator. And just like cars, in small boats there is not a service battery, which means while engine is not running voltage is 12v. While starting the engine, voltage can drop down to 10v. While engine is running, there is a lot of noise (or jitter) and voltage is 14.4v. My solution was to use two coils, then a group of capacitors then a boost converter (increases the voltage to 15v) then a buck converter (reduces the voltage to 12v). 🤣😂 This devides the heat dissipation, reduces the jitter and just works... But in lower power applications (like 1-2amps) buck-boost converters works very nice.
@adamrak7560
@adamrak7560 2 жыл бұрын
This is a bit silly because the 4g modem/router internally has buck converters, which you obviously cannot get around, so you are forced to use this roundabout way. High freq, and highly integrated GaN buck-boost would have worked for you well, but this tech is not very widely available yet, and probably more expensive than chaining two very simple converters like you have done.
@jimsubtle886
@jimsubtle886 2 жыл бұрын
Just make a playlist called, "How Does It Work?". Desolder parts off of boards and slowly walk us all through the process. This could be even better than all of your current content. Perhaps, just make a new channel for it ??
@thatAlex1337
@thatAlex1337 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video about vacuum flourescent displays!
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
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@Nicoya
@Nicoya 2 жыл бұрын
Have you considered using a synchronous switching configuration rather than the diode? Perhaps that would give you a better efficiency payoff than using the coupled inductor.
@yeyuan6273
@yeyuan6273 2 жыл бұрын
using a transformer ensure 5percent increase, lossen coupled one gives anther 1percent boost, a llc typology needs pmos, or bootstrap, whichs means bad, really bad, especially in boost condition.......
@ilankotzin3104
@ilankotzin3104 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Scott!
@thomasschellekens5084
@thomasschellekens5084 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, your voice sounds like you are (recovering) from sickness. I wish you the best!
@gianluca458
@gianluca458 2 жыл бұрын
I have a DC to DC converter which have 3 inductors. Yeah. Its a buck boost converter but at the same time converts a single supply input into a double supply output. Its incredibly useful, but the problem is that it can output only 20w max. Is there a way to build such a circuit that can output a bigger amount of power like 200 or 400w? It can be incredibly useful to run POWERFUL audio amplifiers without transformer, just from a battery. Please, this is probably the most interesting voltage converter and in my opinion its worth giving it a shot. I used JLCPCB for the first time a few days ago and ordered some boards (layout made by me, schematic found on the internet and made better). They are 200w audio amplifiers but they require a double supply. Its propably possibile build one of those, but i cant design it unfortunately. Some online schermatics dont look so promising...
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Can you give me a link?
@gianluca458
@gianluca458 2 жыл бұрын
Whoops, some of it is written in italian. The link works. I Wonder how this circuit behaves
@sanjikaneki6226
@sanjikaneki6226 2 жыл бұрын
@@gianluca458 use external mosfets + heatsinks
@gianluca458
@gianluca458 2 жыл бұрын
The schematic May be ok and i can be wrong...
@fabriziobrutti1205
@fabriziobrutti1205 2 жыл бұрын
​@@gianluca458 ciao Gian, ti scrivo in italiano che faccio prima. Non ho visto li schema me la teoria del potenziamento è questa: stesso schema, condensatori che portino tensioni e correnti di ripple maggiori, induttanze con valore leggermente minore e che portino più corrente, MOSFET con tensioni maggiori e Rds(on) adeguate alle nuove correnti in gioco e idem per i diodi. Se puoi mandarmi lo schema o ti servono altri consigli, io ci sono
@Harish-gv5jm
@Harish-gv5jm 2 жыл бұрын
Eagerly looking forward for next episode of "Diy or buy" as frequency modulator ( FM radio)
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
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@thanatosor
@thanatosor 2 жыл бұрын
Damn... the comment section is moved again. As usual, great content, Scott ! Wish I could do something with this but nah, not even my profession neither my job, still watching this xD
@PhG1961
@PhG1961 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome and very well explained. Great Sunday afternoon entertainment !
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome :-)
@Redbuild_
@Redbuild_ 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Germany and from southern part of Bayern
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Greeting back ;-)
@johnshaw359
@johnshaw359 2 жыл бұрын
The LM based ones works fine down to 3V the XL based starts to have issues below 3.8 volts, don't use it if you are using an input range below 3.8V.
@FadiFadi00
@FadiFadi00 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, it’s so simply explained yet very informative, I wish you could make more videos of coupled inductors since it’s a rare topic on the internet!
@jafinch78
@jafinch78 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking the Prof. Slobodan "Cuk" converter deserves a thorough review. Somewhere I have my first power supply kit I built, a SEPIC-Cuk split rail design to emulate a low power computer PSU and I'm trying to recall what specifically. Man, I forget, seems like something maybe SDR related though I forget. Neat design.
@yashdodia8048
@yashdodia8048 2 жыл бұрын
I am your big fan great scott
@jonscot8393
@jonscot8393 2 жыл бұрын
This may? work for super efficient solar lights
@GuianLorenzo
@GuianLorenzo 8 ай бұрын
( 1:21 & 6:22 ) I have used a SEPIC voltage converter that uses a coupled inductor and it has some decent efficiency and also has some protection features which is nice. The only concern I have is the EMI it might be producing specially I used mine on an audio amplifier build and it has some weird issues "sometimes" specially on its aux mode, might have to some tests on it to confirm those thingies.
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
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@nithikasandinu9034
@nithikasandinu9034 2 жыл бұрын
Get well soon brother ❤️‍🔥
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
My voice is already much better :-) Thanks.
@donlorinsharp
@donlorinsharp Жыл бұрын
Hello from Georgia, USA! I really appreciated this video. I do have a question that I would like to ask. I'm adding heated seats, grips, gloves, and primary clothing layers that will run off of my bike for cold weather riding. The bike has very little extra power so I'm changing all of my lights to LED and I want to use a solid state timer for the signals rather than simply adding resistors to prevent hyperflash. Most of the heated element controllers use a resistor for the lower temperature settings. It seems to me that I could use one of these boards to control the temp and actually conserve amps by using a lower setting If my gauge showed a constant draw on my battery rather than a 2a or so charge. Am I right. I'd use the FP5-139 to get the most out of each amp put out by my charging system.
@sampathrocky4694
@sampathrocky4694 7 ай бұрын
So informative , Thanks a lot man
@TheShedevri
@TheShedevri 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video Mr Scott.
@paulfontaine7819
@paulfontaine7819 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Scott. I learned a ton. Next week your prototype PCB will be shipped by your sponsor JLC PCB I guess ;-)
@jafetmartinez3898
@jafetmartinez3898 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Can you compare the SEPIC with the non inverting buck-boost to see which one is mor efficient? Thanks.
@MrBobWareham
@MrBobWareham 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, it was very interesting to see a different approach, perhaps you can help me with a problem, I want to make an 18650 12v power supply to run an emergency LED light, so do I put three 18650 in series to give me my 12 volts or do I put my 18650 batteries in parallel to give me 3.7 volts and boost that voltage to 12 volts, any suggestions for the best method? Thanks, Bob in the UK
@robertbeverly1508
@robertbeverly1508 2 жыл бұрын
Would you be willing to build a bougie Hotwire foam cutter? There’s lots of tutorials on KZbin, but they aren’t really very heavy duty and they don’t do a good job explaining how they work. I’d like to hear you explain the theory and show how to build a quality, robust foam cutter.
@McTroyd
@McTroyd 2 жыл бұрын
I would have thought the two coils in close proximity would couple anyway. Perhaps not as tightly/efficiently as two windings on the same ferrite ring, but... it's something?
@digitalwerber_
@digitalwerber_ 2 жыл бұрын
Danke!
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the support :-)
@geek.vill8028
@geek.vill8028 2 жыл бұрын
I made a boost converter using a 555ic and an irf540 mosfet. I used a sepic winding of 150uf. I could get 9v input 99v output. It was fun. I'd love to know what you think of it.
@jassrandhawa8426
@jassrandhawa8426 2 жыл бұрын
555 ic in not efficient for this type of circuit
@prashanthb6521
@prashanthb6521 Ай бұрын
So does this mean the bigger the coils the better the efficiency ? I have some big ATX PSU inductors lying around.
@try-app
@try-app 2 жыл бұрын
Great.. too much information..i learn new..thanks a lot for such a good video..
@ChristieNel
@ChristieNel 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! What other buck-boost converter designs are there that are more efficient?
@revimfadli4666
@revimfadli4666 Жыл бұрын
Dahono converters?
@SLYKER001
@SLYKER001 2 жыл бұрын
look for LTC3780 based boards, it's not SEPIC but it does buck and boost work
@GowrishankarLeGrand
@GowrishankarLeGrand 2 жыл бұрын
Informative as always! Thanks mate!
@petrok8618
@petrok8618 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Interesting video! But I have a question. There are big cells of LiFePO4 batteries on a market present nowadays, which can deliver hundreds of amperes while discharging. But most of consumers (ebikes, kickscooters etc) are being powered with standard 12, 24, 36 and 48v voltages in most cases. So it's impossible to power them up from one big cell. Since you are advanced in electronics and DC-DC power converters - maybe you could consider idea of making a boost converter which could convert 3-4v input voltage to one of those high standard voltages with efficiency > 90%. To make as efficient as 90% and avoid switching of high currents on the input, in my opinion you could try to make (for example) 10 multiple core flyback converters, (with isolated secondary coil, around 30w each) and ratio 1:1 and then just connect their secondary windings in series to achieve 36, 12 or some other high voltage :) Or maybe you have some better ideas of how can be done? :) Interesting to hear your ideas about it.
@midbc1midbc199
@midbc1midbc199 2 жыл бұрын
They use the smaller coil packages mainly for size savings and there has been an artificial standard for such converters because a few companies in China did massive runs pumping out near to a half million units and resellers flooding the markets like Amazon and eBay......they become so common that they just get copied
@rudigernichtsotief4554
@rudigernichtsotief4554 7 ай бұрын
There is a great document from Recom that explains all the topologies. There I learned about the coupled inductors. Somebody who klicked this video is probably interested in that document.
@melplishka5978
@melplishka5978 2 жыл бұрын
What toroid worked better, ferrite core or iron powder ? You were kinda using both I think lol.
@explorerpragun431
@explorerpragun431 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@dhruvkachhiya9897
@dhruvkachhiya9897 2 жыл бұрын
Is this commercial Buck converters are coming with close loop control (I mean, is it change its duty according to the change in output voltage? As we know, the output voltage may change with change in load. Please, give your thoughts.) Thanks, in advance
@nickpayne1182
@nickpayne1182 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a constant current/constant voltage (CC/CV Buck) converter. The LM5117 is just one example, but I bought some cheaper ones from Amazon years ago because I needed constant current control for running LEDs. They use feedback loops to monitor current & voltage.
@karakson
@karakson 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect video! Thank you!:DDD
@morrisssss
@morrisssss 2 жыл бұрын
¡Gracias!
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the support :-)
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at the schematic with coupled inductors and it appears if you remove the coupling capacitor you end up with a flyback converter. It just goes to show that all the different DC-DC converter topologies are actually very similar in operation.
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
pm me can you to install do sola paint of charger*
@SanjaySharma-pw6ww
@SanjaySharma-pw6ww 13 күн бұрын
Brother , thank for the nice video.
@rezapournamdar7275
@rezapournamdar7275 Ай бұрын
Can we use this typical converter in series form??for more voltage??
@krishnagamerz3438
@krishnagamerz3438 2 жыл бұрын
its fun to build at home i will try it😀😃
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome :-)
@xoxerxes
@xoxerxes 2 жыл бұрын
Again a great video. The explanations are really easy to follow and very well illustrated. What I was wondering though, is where the losses come from in this kind of circuit. Could the increase of the efficiency be traced back to the lower ESR from the coils maybe? The commercial ones had around 2 ohms and the DIY had a little less if I saw correctly. And how about the diode? What was the forward voltage there? It would be really interesting to see those values. Well, if the efficiency is of interest anyway.
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Watch my video about synchronous converters ;-)
@xoxerxes
@xoxerxes 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the hint. I started watching that video some time ago, but I guess I got interrupted. Good poonts for sure. I was nust curious about the efficiencies of the SEPIC architecture. So I started googling a little and found the following link which was quite interesting as well. Even more since the efficiency ratio was similar. However, I am only a part time electrical engineer, so whenever words like resonance and crest factor, its becoming too involved for me xD Having a converter which is able to go higher and lower than the supply voltage just sounded too comfortable. www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/sepic-converter-is-only-67-efficient-why-so-bad.132702/
@fabriziobrutti1205
@fabriziobrutti1205 2 жыл бұрын
Diode losses and especially the inductors' ESR
@xoxerxes
@xoxerxes 2 жыл бұрын
As mentioned in the synchronous converters video, it is quite a bit more complex than just the ESRs and the diode losses. But yes.
@Drxxx
@Drxxx 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing channel, super video!!
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Nono-hk3is
@Nono-hk3is 2 жыл бұрын
The SEPIC buck-boost design is more elegant than I expected it to be.
@AhmedSoliman-qo6gq
@AhmedSoliman-qo6gq 2 жыл бұрын
You generally need lower inductance if you used a coupled inductor. It isn't just the efficiency but also space reduction :)
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 4 ай бұрын
pm me can you to install do sola paint of charger*
@kikisoimmunasir5699
@kikisoimmunasir5699 Жыл бұрын
Please explain where the input and output are located on SEPIC
@matthewday7565
@matthewday7565 2 жыл бұрын
I'd guess that a specific boost or buck circuit is more efficient, to take a simple example in a 12V to 24V boost, half the output power is coming directly from the input, while it's a bit less than half in a 12V to 5V buck
@HuangLuxuan
@HuangLuxuan 2 жыл бұрын
recent day I made my own sepic converter with xl6009, two 47uH inductor and a 1uF capacitor. It can deliver much more energy than I think and blow up my AO3400 and AO3401. and another interesting thing is it cannot work with usb because some usb power connection is poor and voltage can drop to 3.5V so the chip will not work properly
@rocketsmall4547
@rocketsmall4547 2 жыл бұрын
thx for ur videos. will watch
@CollinBaillie
@CollinBaillie 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this was an old video when you promoted JLCPCB as just gearing up to do PCBA. Checked, released 17 hours ago.
@MegaSteamfreak
@MegaSteamfreak 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe build a full H bridge buck boost converter with one inductor for comparison?
@fabriziobrutti1205
@fabriziobrutti1205 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely yes, I think that the king of the buck-boost converters is the 4 switch one
@SlavTiger
@SlavTiger 2 жыл бұрын
I've got some fiber optic cable laying around, how about a video showing some potential uses?
@altaherhmad2266
@altaherhmad2266 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work👍
@hyconiek22
@hyconiek22 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried converting 110v DC from the step up converter to 220v 50hz AC?
@allthegearnoidea6752
@allthegearnoidea6752 2 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable video. Best regards Chris
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@andreiflorea3865
@andreiflorea3865 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Scott, how you made your beginning perf board logo? You connected your LED's in parallel or series?
@auntmarina3392
@auntmarina3392 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the knowledge I like all your projects. Next time I'd like you to explain the step down of XL4016 working with 20100ct. It's a small and cheap circuit, but it crashes a lot because I'd like to control the HV power supply.
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
I can put it on my to do list
@auntmarina3392
@auntmarina3392 2 жыл бұрын
@@greatscottlab Tausend Dank! 😁
@tarrySubstance
@tarrySubstance 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting video.l really enjoyed the premise of the video.
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@alexnightflydance
@alexnightflydance Жыл бұрын
12v li bms, booster oder Downer dran und damit an Lizellen um nen kompakten Batteriespeicher zu haben den man direkt an zB. 20V Solarpanel dran hängen kann.🤔.. 👉 also plug and play mässig.. Aufladbarer Akku den man mit standardhandylader 5v oder auch 12v Netz oder am Ziganz. Laden kann oder eben auch an bis zu 20v Solar. 👉 "ich denk zu einfach" 😋
@After_Tech_Industries
@After_Tech_Industries Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if I could use a filter choke as a coupled inductor?
@stevenA44
@stevenA44 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Do you have a video on that device with the display and the fan/heatsink?
@trygvetveit4747
@trygvetveit4747 7 ай бұрын
Love your channel! qestion: can you make a cheap/ceapish "garden light mppt "low Voltage battery/supercap?
@elektroger
@elektroger 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm a noob, but something is off in the end schematic; the Drain of the MOSFET should not be tied to GND? 'cause this way is pretty odd for me... Am I wrong?
@fxgamer-11yt
@fxgamer-11yt 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to know if there's a current limit to them or can I send alot of amperage form one?
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