The Most VIOLENT GIG In Punk Rock History

[@emptyemptiness8372]

Early 80s, i was a teenage punk rocker and gigs always came with the possibility of violence from nazi /nationalist skins, we were skinny little guys around 15-16 yrs old....it was a very different story when we were 20-21 year old young men and knew how to fight. Different times the 80s, none of us had any money but we had the best times.

[@MaharlikaAWA]

How did you get into shows then? There was plenty violence unrelated to skinheads and any neo nazis. Punks fought each other all the time over various things without national socialism. Also, many antiracist skinheads were just as violent as any racist skinheads and also started fights with people.

[@VincentRE79]

Yes agree the late 70's & early 80's gigs were volatile, I would say Sham 69's "Last Stand" gig at the Rainbow was probably worse than this. I also remember going to see Sham 69 at The Astoria in 1987 after the band reformed and changed "Direction" the skinheads in the crowd tried to attack Jimmy Pursey and were abusing him all night.

[@williamdew7143]

​@@VincentRE79I remember seeing people held up against the wall by monstrous 7ft boneheads at the Electric Ballrom (Angelic Upstarts) - probably from the Avenell Road nazi squat up the road. Funny how they seemed to melt away by the late 80s.

[@VincentRE79]

@@williamdew7143 Where was Avnell Road? Thankfully It is one cult that has died out, sometimes I see an ageing Skinhead and they look quite pathetic.

[@Mark-rb9zt]

Loada bollocks left wing that's always started the trouble ffs....we was there!!!

[@David-jn6sw]

Late 70's to Mid 80's were the best ! Not a thing i would change from them,had some of the best days of my life never to be matched ! Great Vid Mate !

[@darrenroberts4437]

if gary bullshit said it then it must be true.

[@jesseb5076]

Good video fella... very dangerous times, yet seems better than what we have now, with the number of youngsters dying through knife crime.

[@terryhall818]

Very true! We have over 3000 raped a day & god knows how many stabbinhs

[@peterjones596]

As in the 80's, desperate times make desperate people that do desperate things. I was around at the time, and while I wouldnt say your statement was untrue, I wonder if it is, and when I get the time I'm going to do some research into it. There's certainly more drugs around for sure, which sort of leads back to my first sentence.

[@jesseb5076]

@@peterjones596 there was obvious violence, like the 70s and 60s . There was definitely no 13 year old children getting stabbed to death at home, or on the way to school on the levels of today. My dad was Jamaican and my mum English, I was born towards the end of the 60s, I remember very well the violence of the 80s and it definitely doesn't come near to today's levels . I remember stabbings, even acid attacks but they were nowhere near that of today. There are so many , most do not even get reported. Kids, adults walking around with rambo knives .... There was a 14 year old that was stabbed to death on the way home from school in Northampton by some Romanian lads. Very different times today.

[@utregsoulnorh715]

@@jesseb5076 I second that....I lived in Peckham in the 80s....I live now in Holland and never go back to England

[@peterjones596]

@@jesseb5076 We're of a similar age, I'm slightly older but we'd have been at school at the same time, sorry for being vague about my age, but google are very nosey so I give them as little as possible, let them work harder! I hear what you're saying, and as I thus far can't find stats for earlier years I can't disclaim your thoughts.. But: There's a few things to consider, the 'rose-tinted' view of the past as is common and probably a human trait that's better for us otherwise we'd all spiral into depression via looking back at bad things from our histories. When older people talk about the "Good old days", were they really so good? Eg when polio was free to roam the seas, smog, no health and safety, etc, etc.. Also, we were both young in the 70's, and were shielded from 'societal nastiness' by our parents and also from less media information but also less twisted media such as the Daily Wail (sic) that lie to sensationalise and sell newspapers and clickbait. Also to consider, there were less people, less overcrowding and less desperation. But the Teddy Boys of the mid 50's and the Mods and Rockers of the 60's and early 70's were notorious for knife carrying and attacks. eg Brighton Beach and Margate.. And their beef was? Well, as I'm sure you know, fashion and music tastes, not turf wars and money, just greasy hair or neat short cuts, oh and ska/reggae versus Rock n Roll. Me, I'd want the mod music and the rockers motorbikes! There were always stories about children being stabbed, long before we had Eastern Europeans, but much like the Rotherham grooming gangs, mentioning that statistically, per capita, a child is more likely to be groomed by white British men.. But, 'they' don't want to mention that because it doesn't fit their racist/divide and conquer narrative.. Look, if we're looking out for these (invented nation) Naphrons, we're not noticing the rich tax dodgers bleeding us dry anmd lying to acheive it... It's highly complicated! Now, you might think that a rambo or zombie knife is more deadly than the knives of previous times, but then look at the sort of knife commando's carry, and compare that to a stilletto bladed flick knife or a dagger from the days of swordfighting.. Or, from a First Aid perspective, a deep wound is far harder to deal with than a slash one.. Also, let's have a look at the skinheads of the late 70's/early 80's, from your heritage you'd have been lucky to avoid them, me and my older friends used to go hunting for them, I'd be bait, they'd carry the bats! And what was their motive? Racism, once again, not money or desperation. As you can see, my argument wanders from side to side, and in my research it got even worse! Check out this article, it's from 2008, and although the sample was only 1,000 people of two different generations it paints a picture of something I suspected, and even then I don't count it as proof positive of my thoughts.. It's a hard one, bruv. www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/violent-britain-worse-60s-1656306

[@alannorman4097]

I usually do not know much to say when watching these vlogs. I was a Punk and violence like this was the norm. Did not need a reason but a skin's versus punks meet up was normally enough. Never saw weapons but if you went to ground best to get up. There was NF at the time but as now they were not politically driven just wanted a ruck. The Angelic Upstarts were the boys. The fighting shut down a club where I live. Sorry to say I loved it!

[@speez71]

Angelic upstarts were the pride of the gays! Fruits for ever!

[@TheFairway8]

As a young punk around the early 80s I’d been to literally hundreds of gigs most were brilliant although there are quite a few I remember where things did turn pretty violent usually with the skinheads causing trouble. I can remember going to an all day festival at The Rainbow in London called Woodstock Revisited, believe me it was a millions miles away from a love and peace festival. Once a pogo started for a band gangs of skinheads would jump in and start smacking any punk in the pogo. I was only 17 at the time for some reason I went on my own usually I had a few good mates, this went on all through the gig no bands seemed to really step in until Mensi of The Upstarts got on stage and started playing. I’ll always remember him saying “ the next time you smack someone in the face pointlessly take a good look at him he might just be your brother “ . Things died down a bit but it wasn’t a pleasant atmosphere. Another ‘fond’ memory sarcasm intended was in Islington there was a pub called The Blue Coat Boy which became Skunx venue another notorious battleground. I used to know local Arnarcho Punk Band Omega Tribe both coming from Barnet North London at the time. They were playing at Skunx when this skinheads hurled a glass (yes it was still real glass at most venues) it smashed the bass player Darrels head. They were a real pacifist band along with their fans so were an easy target, I couldn’t get my head around this pacifist nonsense to me they were just cowards scared to defend themselves. Me and a few mates thought bollocks to this there’s no point trying to fight back when no one else was so about 10 or 15 skinheads totally destroyed the gig. I never saw The Rejects around this time but I did see bands like Brutal Attack and Combat 18 they were heavy gigs with a menacing vibe Around this time many venues would insist that skinheads remove their laces before entering no mean feat as some of them wore ridiculous 20 hole boots, they simply brought spare laces to the venue. Eventually most venues banned skinheads altogether. I remember struggling to get into the 100 club cos I had cropped hair albeit with a leopard spot design. Looking back growing up in this period was a great experience though, certainly made me able to defend myself. It wasn’t just skinheads there was lots of grief from the soul boys who were often a bit older driving around in their cars after the pubs looking for anyone who looked a bit different. It’s funny now as I still go to gigs and every year go to Rebellion Festival always a really great time seen (The Rejects a number of times there) always great vibe, never any trouble now they’ve all grown up with kids and families but even walking around Rebellion you can see many of the real nutcases from those times, nowadays though they won’t try and smack you in the face they might actually offer to buy you a beer. Watching your vid brought back some good memories not the violence but the gigs and music cheers

[@cripplesunday1]

Loved that. Completely different time.

[@dgbelcher]

A great account! Yes 1980 had many rival music groups on the streets a Teddy boy revival, punk 2nd wave, new romantics, new wave, New wave of British Heavy Metal, Casuals etc along with the football hoolies. Plus also the movie Quadrophenia kicked off the Mods and Rockers thing again. Musically it had it all. 😁👍

[@alexsetterington3142]

Aren't casuals and hooligans the same thing?

[@TheFairway8]

@@alexsetterington3142 the casuals or the soulboys as they were called wore Tachini tops etc many had wedge haircuts were like the disco boys a lot drove so were a bit older than many of the punks. I guess so were probably football hooligans

[@buceoApulmon]

@@alexsetterington3142 Not exactly. Casuals were a particular subculture within football hooligans (with distinct clothing and music) , but not all football hooligans were casuals.

[@nankypooh655]

The only time I saw The Cockney Rejects was a few years back when they played their first concert in CHICAGO. Practically EVERY Chicago Skinhead showed up, and a riot almost broke out. Thank goodness cooler heads prevailed, since the club they were playing at was the ONLY place that was brave enough to have them, and the fans realized that if a riot had broken out there would be NO PLACE in Chicago that would ever have The Cockney Rejects. It also helped matters that the local police station was just a few blocks away. and panads and Marias were cruising the neighborhood all night just waiting for something to happen, and nobody wanted to give Old Bill the satisfaction, either. Interesting story. Thanks for the history lesson.

[@MikeIXWilliams]

What venue had them? I don't live in Chicago but have a lot of friends there and I visit often

[@Stephen-lx9nm]

Chicago skinheads ?😂

[@TurboLazer007]

Mate, I struggle with severe adhd. Pretty much gave up on books etc years ago. Your channel is a godsend! Thank you so much for your hard work. Fantastic video as always!

[@enquirer2.0]

Pleasure mate glad u enjoyed

[@TurboLazer007]

@@enquirer2.0 🔥🔥🔥

[@TRUMP20Z4]

Glad ya happy mate, LOVE from Australia COBBER!

[@werdna1312]

same here. videos (and audiobooks, if available) like this are a great source nowadays

[@kernow_yid9156]

Me too! Inattentive ADHD.....this is well narrated

[@Tonydjjokerit]

Aaaah...The Cockney Rejects! My favourite 80's group!

[@utregsoulnorh715]

ruinnin down the backstreet....OIOIOI...the kids they come from everywhere the East End is all around...

[@thomasterdington3181]

The late 70s were just as bad. Sham 69 gigs were always trouble and when the Clash played Crawley in 78 the skins were attacking everyone including the support band Suicide. The skins were there to see the Special AKA, who were the original version of the Specials. There was always the possibility of violence in the 70s and 80s if you were a punk, as it seemed everyone wanted to beat you up, and they were just more violent times generally.

[@mjh5437]

Yeah but in those days it was boots & fists,not Machetes and Rambo Knives like now ffs!

[@sirrodney3443]

@@mjh5437 Very true.

[@danking8379]

More violent times ? Fuck knows where your living now but it can’t be on one of the machete filled estates I live on

[@chrisgaze6214]

I know someone who was at that gig and the Brummie skins, most of which were Birmingham City supporters, went mental when the CR started singing I'm forever blowing bubbles. According to him the band were dragged off stage they didn't jump into the crowd that was bs trying to make themselves look big. I knew quite a few of the Brummie skins from back then and they were absolutely mental. Shortly after that gig The Jam were playing in Brum on the same night Birmingham were home to Forest and there were a lot of skins at the game that made a beeline for the jam gig after the game to get the mods, it was absolute carnage in the town with a lot of stabbings, a mate of mine was stabbed also.

[@AthelstanEngland]

Got my skinhead as 16 year old in late 1979 and went to a fair few gigs mainly 2 Tone stuff. But even at local "discos" (that's what they were called then) there was ALWAYS the threat of violence. Most of the skinheads I knew weren't overtly racist but enjoyed a ruck. I had a mixed race girlfriend at the time, and there was a black skin in our group. But fights broke out just between different villages and towns most weekends! I only really saw the NF skins with the explosion of OI music in early-mid 80s as 2Tone faded, by which time pretty much I'd grown up!

[@alwaysabore]

I went to a Cockney Rejects gig in Leeds back in 1980. Lots of West Ham supporting skinheads in the crowd. It was an interesting night! Those West Ham lads were tough!

[@The-Clockwork-Eye]

I went to many gigs which were equally as violent as that...with ongoing running battles afterward across town and in bus stations...Been CS gassed by nazi skins out to ruin a good gig in Nottingham...Skinheads were notorious for fighting among themselves, when there was no-one else to fight - they would ask you where you were from, what football team you supported, who your favourite band was...being there to enjoy the same band as them didn’t always get you off the hook. I was lucky coz I was just a kid of 13 or 14, who had sneaked in, or been smuggled in by one of the supporting, local bands and most often wasn't targetted, but I did see plenty of riots erupt at gigs with hundreds of skins involved, from rival factions, or towns/football firms, with cop cars turned over, shop windows put through and whole pubs smashed up, the lot. Then in town you would get targetted by the "Smoothies" or trendier, smarter, normal type blokes out boozing, as the media portrayed all punks and skins as "granny bashers", muggers, burglars, druggies, thugs, etc. They were just as, if not more dangerous. I did get battered by gangs of lads more than once just for the way I looked, and being alone, or with a skinhead or punk girl. Wild times. The later 80s, and 90s, were tame by comparison, very tame. 💯🥁👁💪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿👊😎

[@theefishlippedone]

Same here, but down south, knives , cs gas, madness

[@ProfessorM-he9rl]

Interesting post, thank you. Can't wait for more if possible.

[@Antipodean33]

I'm in my early 60s and was swept up in the whole punk thing back in the 70s. It's hard to describe just how big a deal it was, it hit the music scene like an out of control old steam powered locomotive. Down here in Australia punk took off and we were having problems with skinheads down here at punk gigs. Most of the skins were from Britain, they'd come over with their parents and they grew up in what we call Housing Trust areas, basically government owned housing "estates" so all the Brit lads banded together as skinheads, they liked drinking/violence and when they arrived at gigs the whole atmosphere would instantly change, people would start leaving (especially chicks) and it got so bad that bands would leave and not play. . There was 2 brothers who were notorious for their fighting and starting trouble, one had the entire get up of a German SS officer, with the story that it was his grandfathers uniform. So one Saturday there's a gig at the university and he rolled up wearing his complete SS uniform, from the leather almost knee high boots to the deaths head skull on the cap. A kid told him that he's jewish and the brother wearing the uniform said "you can't help bad luck" and proceeded to start fighting with him and his mates. To be honest though they were a scary and dangerous bunch and were hated by everyone especially bands and people who organized gigs, along with the pubs or premises owners, which in turn started to make it harder to get places to play because pub owners just didn't want to deal the destruction and violence. I remember going to gigs was a highly charged event even before you got there, because the anticipation of the thunderous music that really got our teenage blood pumping, along with the alcohol plus the old school trucker speed we'd use and that shadow hanging over the night knowing that serious violence would happen and if it was gonna involve you. Great times though, a real golden period for us young punks I even got to see Ian Dury and the Blockheads when they were touring the world on the back of their new album New Boots and Panties, awesome gig definitely in my top 10

[@JimmyHandtrixx]

was this in Perth?

[@Antipodean33]

@@JimmyHandtrixx Nah Adelaide

[@PaulAngel-r6v]

@@Antipodean33 Mate you should of seen sydney in 83... made romper stomper look like boy scouts

[@MrMusicbyMartin]

Last night I watched a video about the rave scene 10 years later. The rise of ecstasy as the drug of choice was said to bring opposing football hooligans together and such violence died away for a year or two.

[@CharlesSpencer-t5f]

My band,Chaos UK,brought the punks ,skins and hippies together in order to bring down Thatcher. Plenty of KZbin footage available from the 80s. Then raving and ecstacy happened,and people got luv ed up,instead!

[@nikolaostsigaridas1109]

great narration - the history of the working class is never recorded - one needs to gather testimonies, before the people who live through all of this die - it's a puzzle, left to our collective memory to complete.

[@Baresark]

Ah Bushell, if he said the sun was coming up tomorrow I would buy a torch and some candles. Gob for hire.

[@Walesktf]

Bushell is the worst music journalist that has ever written for a music paper

[@davidramsay6461]

I read about this in the book Hoolies. If memory serves, the account, was pretty similar to this one

[@180perspecrive.-eq3cn]

I can remember reading a book about the cockney rejects when i was a teenager. Forgot all about them tbf. Great vid as always. Love the channel. Topman

[@enquirer2.0]

Thanks mate

[@deantownie7441]

Thing is Birmingham now is what the NF then were pridicting, it is nearly lost now.

[@reformtorta]

cry me a river

[@tomwilson4395]

Nearly 😂😂😂😂😂

[@deantownie7441]

@@reformtorta You don't care.

[@mjh5437]

They were right,they saw it coming,and now we`re in it,all "culturally enriched" now,and it stinks.

[@alansands1908]

nah, its still there

[@antstead2329]

Seen Mickey smack a goading skin only a few years ago when onstage with the Rejects, nowt changes!! Either way good band but like Sham 69 a bit of time before them, they got sick of all the trouble following them around. The difference was though, the Rejects could and would dish it out. Rough times the 80's, I was at a good few gigs where you had to watch your step with some of the skins when you was a young punk.

[@Andy-mi1ok]

I was a young skinhead in the 70s/ 80s yes it was a very violent time for sure ,not just the football and gigs but the pubs were the worst ,fighting everywhere every weekend

[@user-gp5kh5tu4k]

Yes, I was at Bracknell Sports Centre when the Specials concert was stopped for similar reasons...14 at the time, I loved the musice, but I hated the violence and would avoid drinking anything before going to the concert. I was petrified of having to go to the toilets on my own...

[@stevereed5046]

Brilliant video very interesting and informative. I did enjoy it. I was around back in the 80s but not of these sort of things I wasn’t into the punk. 6:04

[@MattBussey-p5j]

Eddie fewtrells son in law has written a series of books called the accidental gangster this is in part 3 , great vid well worth watching

[@enquirer2.0]

Thankyou very much

[@Doog1958]

The Clash at the Queensway hall, Dunstable. Vicious.

[@warrendighton4325]

Punks gigs where all Dangerous in late 70s early 80s . Went to see Jam all over country many times any fans from London where attacked, Portmouth being Bad i remember

[@davidwhite4874]

Pompey had a bit of a reputation in those days.

[@Chrismcgowan-w6v]

I loved the corkeny rejects got into them in the early 80s

[@davehoward22]

used to go to punk all dayers and if there was an oi band on,allways trouble.

[@peasant1381]

Me and a mate went to one of their gigs in Huddersfield (think it was 1980). There were quite a few HTFC skins up the front and it kicked off as soon as the band opened up with Are you Ready to Ruck. Complete chaos ensued. We manage to extricate ourselves from the brawl (everyone was belting each other) and walked 15 miles home if I remember rightly. I later met the band backstage at one of their gigs in Scarborough (I'd hand drawn the GH Vol1 artwork onto a tshirt before there was any merch) They came across as pretty easy going lads.

[@tossr4716]

Was great, as per usual. Very intresting subject and era of societies, real history. Good show bruvv.

[@mickharrison9004]

The rejects were part of icf already ,you could see they loved the hammers and obviously,new some of west ham top heads .

[@SE16Proud]

Well obviousely they knew top west ham boys if as you say they were icf....

[@raf3070]

A few of the WH lads were roadies for the Rejects..

[@LeTon75]

Imagine how chill them Rejects gigs would of been without alcohol and everyone was on ecstacy.

[@erikouds3294]

A copple of years later there came this house music.. All good

[@harrymay2528]

Would have been passive kids spaced and bored.

[@heiltd1286]

'Would OF been' isn't English. It's 'Would'VE been' or 'Would HAVE been'. This is basic English.

[@LeTon75]

@@harrymay2528 lol 😂

[@gregfowler957]

Saw the ramones at Birmingham odeon in 1986 i remember that got out of hand 😮

[@JimRennix74]

Nice 1 again Ben born in 74 a bit young then older brother more that error i do mind the punks skinheads n mods my error was early 90 best music best decade by far for me mate. Hope you're doing good. Top man great show Ben. 👍🫡🥊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@bennyblancoftb2669]

Greetings from Athens - Greece. Please come again !!!

[@CrueLoaf]

Iron Maiden nearly did the blowing bubbles song but the Rejects got it.

[@juveale29]

The Ants’ following too had some lively away days in Birmingham v the Zulus in 79 and in Huddersfield in 80.

[@michealallen3195]

The zulus didnt start until 1982 Man City away

[@juveale29]

@@michealallen3195 I wouldn’t dispute that but it’s in their book. I’m assuming it’s the crowd that became the Zulus

[@abstractandy]

@@juveale29 I was at many riotous gigs from 79 through to 80s - ive still got my london punx tattoo from soho mkt, the antz at lyceum with upstarts - mental, antz fans booted by skins when upstarts on only to be wiped out when the antz came on and playe "kick" - one race today one job - kick, thats what the antz fanz did to any skin in boot range ! the agricultural in islington too - redskins trying it on at brutal attack etc let alone electric ballroom where the rejects were playing it kicked off between arsenal + west ham...i could go on with the elite, 4 skins, combat, no remorse let alone killing joke crass conflict (my local band) etc etc the old london punx were vicious when required - this from an old sth london/deptford punk who had decent skinhead mates ! regards to all.....

[@Harleylad_canaryislands]

Fighting about Football Rivality and Politics. Luxury Problems of a now dying Race. England is fallen...

[@外人癡]

England isnt a race though?

[@charliesnorta0666]

​@@外人癡 it's the English that had a 12 colony lead and then became a 2nd world country.

[@NewMinority]

@@外人癡of course it is

[@NewMinority]

@@外人癡that’s the problem. People think they can be English after moving here from another nation 😂 if I move to Thailand am I a Thai? NO!

[@PariahThistledowne]

It never got quite as rough in US, but there were usually some ornery skins at any given show.

[@Garry-pd8gw]

My miss spent youth has come running back

[@jusele-ox9rc]

My arse Landser/skrewdriver 87 Hanover 🇩🇪🇬🇧all of north Germany was out.... Rejects😂

[@mjh5437]

Translate

[@andrewhoward7200]

Definitely, Skrewdriver gigs were mental. Es lebe Deutschland!

[@richardlionheart3814]

Skrewdriver were the best 👍

[@petroskotsomytis5016]

Whats the song on the background? Its epic af

[@MrArthurdog]

I was at that gig and I don't remember any of the Villa lads being involved ,it was all Blues fans.We were at the back cause it was obvious what was going to happen. . There seemed to be one big skinhead instigating it and he got done by the Rejects crew. It wasn't a good evening that's for sure.

[@AlexMackenzie-nx5qq]

I wwas a punkbin my youth andvwhen you've had a few pints and bouncing around to the sex pistols, the exploited and the dead Kennedy's the fights on the dancefloor just came naturally the music pumps eveverybody up into a frenzy

[@Millwall77]

I recommend Stinkys book, it goes in full detail about this gig, I think I have read the book three times.

[@VincentRE79]

Stinky wrote a book?

[@Millwall77]

Yes, released in 2005. Called Cockney Reject.

[@henryclarke5363]

remember bad manors late 70,s somewhere near victoria...skins went crazy

[@diamond66ist]

Legends are created with 1or 2 facts and a thousand fairy-tales !!!

[@woodyj9694]

This would make a mental film

[@alanknotts1844]

This is piecemeal compared to the activities of AFA...

[@ceevishus4130]

makes me love the 'Rejects even more

[@johnvon9268]

Never said i personally had issues with those thugs, the punk scene in general had issues with their violent tough guy BS.

[@awotnot]

Won't disagree. I wasn't there. But two other contenders were the punk / skin festival at The Rainbow in Finsbury Park in 81 and PiL in Brixton in 81 straight after the riots.

[@CheersDits2979]

When the far right actually existed.

[@adreenalize]

Those guys are still around, they might be in their 50/ 60s now but Im willing to bet anything that they feel the same way now and they are Tommy Tommy followers.

[@stellajayne]

They still do, clown.

[@CedrickTudge]

​@@adreenalizewhat's bad about Tommy Robinson? Hes not racist. I am , but he aint

[@GiovanniMazzeo-r1n]

@@adreenalize I agree look at the age of the blokes in those riots around the country but there is not so many of them now.There was always violence when i went to punk gigs in London in the mid 80's through to the 90's.I got fed up with it!

[@adreenalize]

@@GiovanniMazzeo-r1n the funny thing is that now bands like The Exploited play on the same bill as Conflict.. in the 80s it would've been impossible, but now everybody is chilled. I play with Spizzenergi, years ago we played just before the Rejects, at a festival: I thought we were going to get glassed off stage instead everybody had a great time 😎🎸

[@michaeljohnson5370]

Cockney rejects did one and a half songs in Eric's in Liverpool before they had to get off late 70s

[@stephenmeighan2118]

Remember it well I was there

[@tednindo6761]

brady's liverpool (formerly erics)... about 6 songs they did

[@mrnobody1067]

I bought a motor and used Millionaires Boogies and Edwards clubs in Brum in 80s Eddie Futral was a gent I can't say anymore 👍🇬🇧

[@DmReddd24]

Idea of blues and villa teaming up to take on the cockneys doesn’t ring true to me. Was already too much hatred and history from the 70s for that to seem a possibility. Might’ve both been there but no way it was some planned effort. Instances at England games over previous decades shows what comes first

[@Stephen-lx9nm]

The rejects did the Brummies whoever they were .Thats the truth

[@ShaunBhoy-75]

Oi! Oi! Oi!

[@paulbrinsley]

As a former BCFC Skinhead who used to go to the Cedar Club i can tell you Blues and Villa fans uniting is a joke... "... Never going to happen ! Sadly i was'nt there that night but a mate who was said it went off , normal behaviour i would expect at one of they're gigs , also there was always good vibes between the Punks and Skins in Brum . I saw the Angelic Upstarts at the CC and it was a great night and did not kick off ........

[@stupididiot6116]

@paulbrinsley I was at the Rejects Cedar club gig (15 year school kid at the time and went with my 18 year old cousin and a few of his mates) …….and I’m a Bluenose ! I agree with your comments about Blues & Villa never uniting but I can say that on that night it wasn’t so much to do with the local football rivalry. It was 100% Brummies v Cockney’s and I have to say it kicked off big style . ! It basically finished the Rejects ever touring again ( at that time) !

[@boundsgreenboy8354]

If you've a troublesome sore throat , sore throat, Although you forgot ya hat n coat Hat n coat Take TCP and gurgle every day Till your sore throat goes away " Goes away " goes aaaaaawwwwwaaayyyaaaaa...!!!!!

[@dg6887]

Adam and the antz , Huddersfield , cleopatras reggae club. Most violent ever !! Skins and rastas punch up

[@Drik-c]

Hell'oi. Sorry, I'm french and don't understand everything said. What is ICF? Thanks by advance... Oi!

[@RealVik123]

West Ham hooligans name. Football hoogies.

[@Drik-c]

@RealVik123 thanks 👍

[@bungledandbotched1771]

Mad lads for sure.

[@waynetrudgeonreddevils]

My brother got glassed by one of these idiots when working the door at a local venue

[@mjh5437]

Glassed by one of the Rejects?

[@waynetrudgeonreddevils]

@@mjh5437 yes

[@stuartblack6803]

I always found the bouncers and guys who did the doors at punk gigs to be the biggest tossers in the place,

[@TkeMedia]

Brilliant doc 💪

[@phoenixfridge1495]

2 grand Could buy a Birmingham housing estate for that in the early 80s

[@PaulAngel-r6v]

Hooliganism and punk make strange bedfriends. Much respect for the ICF and other hooligan firms but punk rock should be open to all dissaffected and rejected.. But boys being boys will find something to fight over... Hair, music, address, clothes, skin color, religion, girls, turf,

[@veronicajoseph1582]

Loved this.

[@chrismcbrias4681]

Seen them at erics in liverpool it was chaos

[@sicks6six]

Specials Newcastle Mayfair 1979,

[@kennymac4714]

Absolute bollocks. Genius brothers shit themselves when the Mitcham turned up at the Electric Ballroom. KenMc

[@alexandros_anesiadis]

hmm...talking about Cockney Rejects being scared by Mitcham skins (Brutal Attack)? Weird.

[@SomeBizarretaSomeBizzareLabel0]

[@MatthewSigh]

What you talking about "race wars"?

[@SirBoycie]

I thought the same!

[@Sirusthevirus-ii8ym]

#DannyGsTooth i wonder was this fight onnthe dance floor that he had to break up or maybe linesy and his crew 😂😂😂😂

[@stefanosaracco1912]

Good old times 😅

[@ewan8127]

Sounds Fun!

[@ryanhaase1271]

Maybe if they supported the NF; England wouldn’t be in the sorry state it is today.

[@rouker1]

And now Birmingham is lost …88MM

[@postiepaul]

Regrettably Gary Bushell came out as fascist, so the Rejects are not entirely blameless.

[@donpiano.684]

Did he fuck 😂

[@Elim_84]

Fewtrell not a gangster? 😂

[@DezDogg]

At least put a realistic thumb nail up! No one looked like that back then, swallows on the neck yes but this! 😂

[@warrendighton4325]

Try Sham 69 gigs in late 70s, was at a gig iñ Harlestan in late 70s much worse than that, or sham69 at reading festival.

[@postiepaul]

Saw Sham in Leicester back in the day, Cimarons supporting if memory serves. Best gig I ever went to. Jimmy gave the fascists his, shall we say, his opinion of them.

[@stuartblack6803]

@@postiepaul Turns out what you call fascists from back then were right in their predictions of the future of England.

[@PeterLine-w1i]

@@stuartblack6803 you are embarrassing yourself

[@stuartblack6803]

@@PeterLine-w1i Prove me wrong. woke boy.

[@PeterLine-w1i]

@@stuartblack6803 spot the internet hardcase 😂🤣😂🤣

[@grizcuz]

So when were the Nazis run out of Blues? Seem to recall reading somewhere that a not long gone famous Zulu and his mates ran them out of town. Certainly not many NF Blues by 83ish, from memory there was at least as many black lads, if not more, at the BCFC games I saw there or when they travelled away. You can't really have a Nazi element if you're calling yourself Zulus.

[@jamb6600]

,heard this story before (rubbish) c crew wernt even invented then

[@Stephen-lx9nm]

Its true mate Idont know who the brummies were ,but the story is true

[@johnvon9268]

In Canada I remember the 80s and early 90s we had more issues with the SHARP skins than anyone else in the scene.

[@Betterworkplace-f2b]

Bruv!! If yer having issues with SHARP skins, you might be the problem!

[@hatetheantichrist]

​@@Betterworkplace-f2bnah

[@henryclarke5363]

yea 80,s full on,

[@TwickenhamLondon]

Birmingham would never join with villa and definitely not skinheads as Birmingham had a very big afro carrabean so did villa so they would not have it with the nf mob

[@dannyav1974]

Blues had a big nf following very early 80's before the Zulus were about.

[@seriousmonkey5654]

They all look pretty gay.

[@weirdboy62]

There is this rumour from back in the day that the Cockney Rejects once met the Adam & The Ants in the BBC lobby and they(the Rejects) beat them up accusing them of being gay. P.S.: Nicky Crane certainly was gay.

[@seriousmonkey5654]

@@weirdboy62 Well there you go.

[@Stephen-lx9nm]

They got done in Liverpool ,but fair play they went for it Around that time the yanks beatie boys gave it mouth in Liverpool and got smashed .That run dmc fella was their manager I think 😂

[@JohnTurner-uy3hn]

💩 ya bin dipper

[@SasaStamenkovic-t7r]

828!!!

[@alanjax7685]

what a load of bollox ,it was just the usual football rivalry ,no one side came off better than the other ,half these lads didnt even know who or why they were fighting it was just another weekend letting off steam moment

[@sidneybeers2527]

Soccer sucks☝ Fightinf sucks☝ The lack of hair sucks☝

[@donpiano.684]

Your mother sucks 😊

[@stuartblack6803]

Enjoy your basket weaving classes.

[@PeterLine-w1i]

Gary Bullshit

[@shawnfaddoul8616]

Oi! Oi!

[@danielplainview5085]

Clearly you have never been involved in the ohio/Pa. Hardcore scene. Violence is the norm.

[@stuartblack6803]

American drivel doesn't count mate.

[@danielplainview5085]

@@stuartblack6803 oi moit.. You all ban butter knives over there yet?

[@derekpierkowski7641]

💀💀💀💀💀💀👍🏻

[@paullangley2017]

The C CREW was not all black no pak the black that was in the C CREW was all good lads none of the c crew went to it C CREW was all dressed football lads blues nose was there no what your talking about

[@jonathankennethwilliams]

Race wars in the 80's wtf are you on, where?