The MOTHER of all Rhoynish Streams

[@SoCalledGodess]

I frequently listen to your videos while I do my chores. And while I work on arts & crafts. And while I drive. And even while I work sometimes, unless I have to talk with clients. Your voice is basically the background to my life.

[@DavidLightbringer]

awww I'm honored!

[@fluencer]

I used to come to the LmL streams for the symbolism, but the art showcase is becoming more and more compelling. Thank you for doing this.

[@Paul_W_222]

Great stream, as always. The Rhoynish migration is a really cool story- more of an epic odyssey than a simple migration, with Nymeria (who is such an interesting character) at the center. Looking forward to the next stream/ video

[@Devoted2Mariah]

Water magic, which is lesser known, a preview of the Ice Spiders video, fun myths that connected a few dots about ironwood (for me). This was a smashgroovewonder of a stream! And a flannel! Now I can see about Pearl Jam. Thanks, David! 🌊💙

[@DavidLightbringer]

Evenflow... caught in the weirweb like buterflies... something something AHHH YEAH-HEAH LoL this was a super fun stream indeed, i had a blast :)

[@Devoted2Mariah]

@@DavidLightbringer hahaha it’s perfectly acceptable to “somethin’” through that 😂

[@nagamata]

I think the idea of the white walkers using the weirwoods as a sort of portal/teleportation network is so f*cking cool. Given the lack of concrete details concerning the Others, I'm quite impressed with the level of theory crafting goin' on in these parts. Hefty kudos to you LML.

[@DavidLightbringer]

just wait until tomorrow! But yeah, thanks very much, I stumbled into to by thinking about the ice spiders as Sleipnirs and frozen weirwoods

[@comradeconrad3636]

Really shows you the importance of symbolism.. like if you understand that and archetypes it's almost like a key to the code your cracking and tells you exactly what to expect. Pretty cool if you ask me.

[@espalier]

water spouts hammering (?) dragons from the sky is an amazing visual. water magic raising the water table in one spot could also be lowering it in another, which would make a targeted spot in Dorne uninhabitable. I was wrong, the Rhoynar are super powerful in Dorne, but in a long term way........like Doran's plans. hunh.

[@RedIron914]

I've read the series three times and you bring stuff to my attention I never noticed everytime you do a chapter read. I'd love to follow along to you reading every chapter starting from the beginning explaining the symbolism as we go and relating things back to other chapters.

[@DavidLightbringer]

i don't know if my ADHD will let me do them all in order but I will keep picking out random chapters and sprinkling the read-alongs in

[@baelorbreakspeartargaryen993]

Awesome stuff as usual, LML! I lost access to my old KZbin account, which had been subbed to you for a couple of years, but I'm back and there's a lot of catching up to do. Can't quit the myth.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Yeah I’ve been putting out the content... glad to have you back Ser Baelor

[@stephenwebb3514]

All the bridge of dream art really grabbed me, thanks for always finding amazing pieces for each scene

[@Nollic15]

This is my go to channel for when I’m mowing my field lol

[@hinakhodiyara7883]

Thank you David. Always appreciate the depth and thought that you put into your Streams. Have an Epic Day :)

[@davemichael4808]

Love a 3 hour stream, that's an extra 2 trips to work I get to listen

[@IncessantTapping]

Man I'm glad I returned to this one after missing the last half of the stream - great stuff as always LML 🤘

[@DesmondVids]

Great stream, as always!

[@DavidLightbringer]

[@violetdragon4474]

As always I learned a lot and really enjoyed the chat. 💜🐲💜🐲

[@WillowBlackfyre]

❤ love your channel. I've been binging your videos. Absolutely adore your re-reads. I've went back and re-read the series myself.

[@jaredm2365]

Even after reading these books you always give me new eyes and connections that I cherish these break downs man…. Your delivery is A1!!!!!!

[@jmace2424]

The expression “2 birds with 1 stone” makes me sad so I say “2 spiders with 1 stone” as a reference to The Hobbit. 😊

[@imnotagoodperson4446]

Excellent stream! It sucks to be at work when it’s live, but I do appreciate that you post them for later views.

[@LeonM4c]

Great stream, and I love all the art! Super excited for that ice spiders video, Land of Always Winter stuff is supreme, and so fitting with the season of waning winter.

[@christiancummings6283]

All hail the mighty algorithm. Was working today so missed this one. Glad to catch up

[@SolarAngels625]

I just wanted to mention that water spout is another name for water tornados. 😄

[@lyarrastark6254]

Thank you for another great stream, David! As always I learned a lot from you I never noticed on my own.

[@israelheartsbane5067]

One of my favorite stories, Thanks bro. Great stream 💯

[@DavidLightbringer]

It was one of my favorites too! Had a ton of fun :)

[@comradeconrad3636]

No questions or comments today just a thank you for all you do for us. Really looking forward to your ice spider video man I don't know how you keep doing hour plus videos but you are the GOAT of asoiaf streaming in my view.

[@morganburt2565]

you do real cool stuff, man. you really care and it shows!

[@nadiasouthiere7908]

Thanks 🙏🏻 for sharing this awesome stream once again LML! You’re Awesome 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍👍💪🏼🙋🏼‍♀️🇨🇦

[@manyeyedcrow9391]

One of my favorite streams, the Rhoynar and the Dornish do feel like fertile ground for new stories and series.

[@therunningman_]

Art intro was fantastic

[@rjsamking8224]

Every thing changed when the fire nation attacked🤣🔥

[@keirynmatsui3280]

Great review, Keep up the good work LML :)

[@markdaniel5784]

D'lightenment bestowed yet again!

[@Whyred100]

Lovely stream - highly enjoyed it brother 👍!

[@tool9386]

Great stream. Lots of good symbolic parallels.

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

Great stream! Nymeria, the Rhoynar, & Dorne are some great areas that don’t typically get a lot of attention.

[@justokayemilay6029]

This is my favorite funky music mix.

[@Darksun93]

Great stream. Really enjoyed it 👏👏👏

[@JsHolgersson]

Damn I can´t belive I missed this stream! :O First live stream I missed in ages :S Super awesome on the rewatch anyways! And so is the sweet Mythfam

[@autje1970]

Great stream, love the Rhoynish background history! Making a small offering to the Old Man of the River, so he will game the algorithm.

[@FieryReborn]

Loved the stream. Didn't know about all the creatures

[@amandaofhouserobinson6707]

You tube doing its usual great job , no notification!!!

[@DavidLightbringer]

yeah no idea what's up with that if your notis are set to 'all'... I have been pretty good about doing it the same time every sunday though so always come check at 3pm PT. Next week is different of course (lol) because of the Stupor Bowl

[@bahbah4638]

Very interesting to hear about water magic

[@mikelator96]

Pretty interensting video! on the note of fighting a battle with water magic, do you know about the Battle of Salaminos? the Persian army made a wood bridge with the boats of their fleet, and I imagine the Rhoynar did the same thing

[@cosmicriptid]

Half convinced KZbin can read my mind just wishing to watch a video more in depth discussion about the Rhoynar and wondering if you made a video about it and whoop! KZbin suggestions here we go.

[@DavidLightbringer]

they're always listening

[@lizardbreathh]

Excited for Wednesday! Everyone make sure your notifications are working! :) ❄🕷🕸

[@cloverazar5315]

Thanks so much for the stream! I can always rely on your channel to make a traffic jam a fun time. Thoughts on Rhoynar water magic and waterosi parallels. Could there have been contact in GOTD days? Since the Rhoyne are that ancient, could there have been a link?

[@AtomicDoorknob]

Apparently I just missed the stream but I'm sure it will be a fire rewatch either way

[@Krombopulusryan518]

Yuuuuuuussssssssss awesome video!

[@therunningman_]

this was the mother of all Rhoynish Streams, indeed!!

[@TheInsatiableDrBoom]

As a Florida native thoroughly invested in established the jaw structure and snout shape of lizard lions. I will point out that crocodiles are mentioned as a something Maesters are aware of. Moreover the more Nothern climates of the Northern Rhoynish deltas would put it more of alligator zone then the more southern crocodile and caiman area. Now all of this is in a fantasy book so who cares, I think a lizard lion is like a komodo or a dire iguana.

[@DavidLightbringer]

dire iguana lol. Good points, and yeah it could be any sort of komodo like thing, that would work

[@ShredGod7404]

1:48:09 @David Lightbringer, remember though in our own world whales were mistaken for sea dragons and serpents for centuries too so the fact that george uses the term Leviathan for whales which was also a multiheaded dragon in the bible and based off of the Hydra and Tiamat says something about the nature of sea dragons. By referring to whales as leviathans george is indirectly calling them sea dragons. Maybe Sea Dragons are Mosasaur-like reptiles. George has flirted with the idea of dinosaur-like and other prehistoric creatures in his world after all we have woolly mammoths north of the wall, Dire Wolves also north of the wall and Scythed Lizards in Sothoryos so it’s not at all out of the question what sea dragons might actually be or look like

[@moiraferreira]

Insightful!

[@celly8713]

chalk it up as another certified banger 🔥

[@lucashunt4172]

Do you think Nymeria retained some knowledge of the water mages magic as well as previous strategies to fight dragon lords which is why Dorne was able to withstand Aegons conquest?

[@lucashunt4172]

Mythheads who have not watched Ice Spy Doors yet. If you begin skeptical, watch until you see the artwork. You will stay for the rest. Great vid LML.

[@eric8841]

Hello, hope you’re doing well. Where can I find all that fantastic art that you’re always showing off?? Peace and wholeness fam

[@iamnoone9041]

Im watching the replay and Im at the part where lizard lions are being discussed and I realized something. In the world of ice and fire, while talking about sothorios they talk about crocodiles. If lizard lions are just crocodiles why dont they call them that? I could be wrong of course but I took the book to be from the point of view of a maester. If thats the case the lizard lions could be different. George seems to like to add creatures extinct from our world into the books like dire wolves and mammoths and a few others, so it stands to reason that the lizard lions could be a similar thing. Especially with the bits about the marsh kings riding them. Maybe they have longer legs and walk better on land and could potentially be ridden. If the only descriptions of lizard lions we get are the ones with them in the water where we only see their backs then they could be different from crocodiles in more ways than just being taller.

[@DavidLightbringer]

This would make sense to me, sure. You raise a good point

[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

Not sure if there is a translation error(s), but there is a South African myth/legend of a “dragonslayer” girl who fights “lizard lions” dragons. There’s a “frog people” element, “a magic tower”, and a “old woman” guide to boot. I would bet, if I was a betting man, that lizard lion is a hint towards that story.

[@BloodravenRivers]

the yeen construction style makes me think predominantly mayan but the scope of projects like the canals and aquiducts (dont know how to spell it) and the scale of theyre buildings feels roman, like if rome was orignally found in south american jungles. or indoneisian

[@fluencer]

Hi LmL, I am thinking of the Werirwalkers video, and how the Green Men become White Walkers. Here, the dragon lords are turning into weir walkers. I understand that even with the weir walkers, there was Azor Ahai/Night's King magic involved. During the Rhoynar conquest, the dragonlords themselves seem to be turning into the white walkers, as opposed to them turning green men into white walkers. Could this be related to the fight inside the weirwood net you have talked about earlier, between two factions?

[@DavidLightbringer]

it's all about what aspect of the thing George wants to emphasize in a given scene, I think. Sometimes it's about "defiling the wood," somtimes it's about the hubris fo the dragons, etc. With the war of conquest, or any example where the fire flips right to ice, think of that as the story of Azor Ahai's bloodline. The weirwoods are like the womb or medium through which that transformation occurs. Or you could even get into a potential overlap between horned dragonlords and horned green men, perhaps there's a baphomet-like common ancestor to green men and dragon people.

[@Musicboxz123]

Praise Garin The Great! awesome stream

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

No, no, my good knight, do not fear for me. The fire is mine. I am Daenerys Stormborn, daughter of dragons, bride of dragons, mother of dragons, don't you see? Don't you SEE?

[@TheBaronAmaruPhoenix]

So the long night happened before the arm was broken and when the lands were all one

[@DavidLightbringer]

Imo the arm breaking was a part of the Long Night. Check out Timeine Heresies: the Pact and the Hammer of the Waters

[@TheBaronAmaruPhoenix]

And some great group of heroes inset any name here came together and defeated the evil and bring balance back to the world damn loving the additions of the myth making

[@TheBaronAmaruPhoenix]

@@DavidLightbringer ahhhh ok gonna watch that after this been rewatching the compendiums 🔥🔥👏🏾👏🏾

[@rjsamking8224]

Doing my workouts while listening 👂✨🐦

[@richardwithanarr]

53,54-ish you mentioned that turtles are a sign of favor for George. reminded me of the turtle in the Volantis market (the size of a horse?) (I can't recall if it was in Tyrion's or Quentyn's trip). Not surprising, given their slave population outnumbers the slave owner population 4:1. George is ready to turn that city to dragon kindling.

[@richardwithanarr]

I looked it up. Quentyn. "The Merchant's Man" chapter, even has crabs which you compared to spiders. "The fishmongers were out in strength, crying the morning catch. Quentyn understood one word in two at best, but he did not need to know the words to know the fish. He saw cod and sailfish and sardines, barrels of mussels and clams. Eels hung along the front of one stall. *Another displayed a gigantic turtle, strung up by its legs on iron chains, heavy as a horse.* Crabs scrabbled inside casks of brine and seaweed. Several of the vendors were frying chunks of fish with onions and beets, or selling peppery fish stew out of small iron kettles."

[@DavidLightbringer]

i just know there is a solid 2 hours of spider crab / crab symbolism discussion to be had

[@richardwithanarr]

@@DavidLightbringer the return of Nimble Dick of Crackclaw point? 🥺 👉👈

[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

@@richardwithanarr i’ve been wondering if Jaqen will be a fake Nimble Dick at some point, since Jack be nimble… with all the other Jack references It seems likely right? Springheeled, of the Green, candlestick, knows nothing, giant killer, etc

[@lucashunt4172]

You mix up your theories and it gets confusing sometimes but…love em all. Should do a head cannon iceberg stream where we vote on cannon, possibly, tin foil or nope.

[@lucasadam65]

What about symbolism from dunk and egg short story lol

[@tool9386]

One for the almighty algorithm.

[@tesspulido]

Kudos for a great stream! I find it interesting how the Mediterraneans are the darker ("less Caucasian") Europeans. I also find it convenient that the Spanish "discovered" areas that have the same climate as theirs -- Latin Americas and Philippines (looks and sounds like the Summer Islands!). Colonization and/or migration? By the way, Philippines is the only predominantly Christian country in Asia, but coexisiting with lots of animists in the North, and Moors in the South. This also reminds me of Prince Caspian, the heir to the throne in Chronicles of Narnia. The earlier kings and queens were Andal-ish, while centuries later Caspian and his family were more Rhoynish.

[@tesspulido]

Aaaand.. Caspian's ancestors were also lost mariners. Their family is called Telmarine --> Martell!

[@mehgancorker7242]

The Rhoynar remind me of Native Americans. They lived in harmony with the land. They had their own separate tribes/kingdoms, but mostly respected each other’s territory. And they were mostly welcoming to foreigners, happy to share the bounty of the land, and those foreigners eventually took over their land. And in Native American myth, the land was on the back of a giant turtle.

[@lucashunt4172]

GRRM is very fond of the history of the Royalty of Europe. Even though he primarily goes medieval, Nymeria is straight up Dunkirk.

[@BloodravenRivers]

bro u said pay no attention to how many tabs i have open, then i looked... lol there is so many tabs open my ocd wouldnt allow me to do that.THATS MULTTASKING

[@cosmicriptid]

I remember that Supernatural decided to explain this by saying demons tricked everyone in the colony into murdering each other.

[@moribu8866]

Praise Garth!

[@cosmicriptid]

So mad at what they did to Dorne in the show

[@KiaraDex]

oh no I missed this for the power of sleep.

[@KiaraDex]

great stream

[@sj-bg4up]

hmm, maybe the water plays the role of the trees, and the tutrles the role of the greenmen

[@lucashunt4172]

Nymeria is a personification of Dunkirk

[@stevenwetherbee7573]

Battlestar Nymeria

[@MC-el2us]

Or King Clarence Crabb ;)

[@greggemmell6658]

I thought the old man of the river was a turtle god, some kinda figurehead for the old water magic.

[@cosmicriptid]

Am I the only one who thinks Yeen looks gorgeous in this light? Maybe too sunny.

[@TuathaTuna]

Wooh!

[@ericvague19]

Have you ever heard of the greek play "The Persians"? Its about a great civilization right before it falls. Very interesting.

[@abcdefbcdefg8352]

old man of the river... Brynden Rivers/3eye crow

[@eric8841]

Watching this for the second time and I didn’t realize you were into Gram Handcock’s work too?! We really need to smoke a joint and have a conversation lol Peace and wholeness fam

[@MGWorldwide]

Festival city is also a thi g in God Emperor of Dune

[@cosmicriptid]

The wall was not built by raising water with magic, as it built with blocks

[@DavidLightbringer]

I know that’s what the art shows, and that’s seemingly how it was added too, but the original constriction of it is a mystery

[@cosmicriptid]

@@DavidLightbringer I dunno Jon says it was made with blocks when they are climbing the wall, and he seems to be able to see the edges of blacks where they unevenly placed

[@lucashunt4172]

Gotta talk to Samson Take me to the moon To my meteor mansion

[@Dom-z4b]

Greek city states and the river Nile

[@GeroldGarthcia]

Squishsquish

[@karentargaryen7959]

Half way through, and great so far. How come your Nymeria looks like Megan Markle? LOL

[@DavidLightbringer]

yo know sometimes artists use someone's face as a starting point... who knows

[@jonhauge-evaldsson783]

❤

[@Slechy_Lesh]

17:44

[@helenrose5383]

💙☀

[@lucashunt4172]

Awesome how Volantis is going to be destroyed by the same power that once saved them. Burn em all Queen!

[@nostalgia4infiniti850]

Graham Shamcock

[@stephenappman9529]

comment for algorithm

[@Legion_X83]

I love you lol

[@joemckeown4612]

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@michaeltavizon8333]

👍🏼