THE MSI CLAW

[@tjwalkr3]

I love that easily repairable electronics are starting to become the norm in certain niches.

[@kirkanos3968]

Yes miss the days would have a schematic diagram imprinted on the inside.

[@jivewig]

Just wait for this product category to become mainstream, profit maximization will kick in eventually.

[@rabidwallaby84]

Probably because of the EU mandates.

[@Fataha22]

I mean basically almost every windows laptop is repairable

[@jivewig]

@@Fataha22 Microsoft: Hold my beer 🍺

[@XMorbius]

Seeing all these competitors to the Steam Deck really makes it clear how valid Valve's concept was. It also makes me wonder what Valve will bring to the eventual Deck 2.

[@cloudGGs]

Well Nintendo switch already did the concept

[@arkhikun]

​@@cloudGGsno, they really didn't

[@sartonnis]

Handheld PCs had been around for years beforehand from vendors like GPD (hell, Linus has covered several of them in the past on the main LTT channel), but honestly the tech simply wasn't up to par for the most part to do any kind of real gaming other than light emulation. I will give the Steam Deck props for bringing them into the mainstream though.

[@patorikusutaru7483]

wonder when sony gonna lick their own spit, and release a real handheld console, not a mirroring device lol

[@AndrewPL5]

@@cloudGGs I can't stand when people bring up the Switch. In no way is it the same or even in the same class. The Switch has practically no GPU power and is locked to Nintendo and low graphics games basically, while these handheld PC's can play basically anything AND act like your full PC as it runs win11.

[@lordadamfirst]

Talking about repairability at CES on their stand is absolutely great!

[@plaistowjames6792]

Why?

[@kingzach74]

Who's in charge here? The CLAAAAAAAWWWW! The Claw's our master! He decides who will stay and who will go!

[@DungeonMetal]

Thank you for this 😂

[@stephendeben1590]

the only thing i could think when i saw the title lol

[@heero854]

I was thinking more "Liar Liar" with Jim Carey

[@TheOneHi-C]

Only The Claw knows......

[@flamingcouch-mp6de]

I thought the same thing

[@breisen99]

Im so happy that handhelds are making a comeback. It does remind me how far head of its time the PS Vita was 😢. I got an ROG Ally a few months ago and absolutely love it

[@SweetKingTanner]

I’m literally playing Tearaway on my vita right now.

[@ZinoAmare]

Vita was awesome

[@EcchiRevenge]

I still have my hacked vita for playing some SRW games.

[@RFDN0]

Hand helds started competing with laptops and were falling short. Now the systems are powerful enough that they can function as full computers. Steam also means that they aren't limited to the limited title selection.

[@artiumromanov9798]

Even the classic PSP was a huge step up from the traditional videogaming for me and my friends (at least those who had one)

[@Jasperg08]

Sponsored segments with Dennis are always fun to watch!

[@jupdown]

Literally came to the comments section to say this. I re-watched the ad roll at the end like 3 times. I feel sorry for floatplane-onlys as they're missing out on such amazing quality content!

[@kingzach74]

@@rayquazahere8529 Meh. The Switch doesn't really have a robust library of good games. They are mostly crappy overpriced 1st party Nintendo titles and much worse versions of cross-compatible games. The Switch really needs a Pro version or a Switch 2.

[@LightningXCE]

I honestly picked up some of those earcups a while ago and they're SHOCKINGLY good too, so uh, cheers, guess it worked.

[@zephyreagle]

@@LightningXCE Is Wicked Cushions actually good? I've heard good things but I'm not sure

[@AKTG197]

​@zephyreagle Yes, I highly recommend them. The owner of the company is super awesome and transparent, not to mention they do exactly as advertised. I picked a set up for my Nova Pro's awhile back and will never use anything else from now on.

[@natetroxide]

Dude Dennis's sponsor spots are so perfect. A virtuoso ahead of his time.

[@BrianG61UK]

It's great. I can't understand much of what Dennis says at all. It's now so easy to avoid being influenced by them.

[@amaan6999]

Damn LTT. Opening up the insides on the CES floor. This kind of coverage is incredible !

[@graphincer3164]

That thunderbolt port is probably going to be a huge seller since rog's proprietary one is super expensive

[@chriswright8074]

Not super but it's has its benefits

[@Martinspire]

I doubt it matters. I think less than 1% of customers are really gonna hook up a GPU on that.

[@ivangerginov5648]

It might be good for docking stations

[@charlierose1708]

It's a handheld 😂 only plebs would buy an egpu for more than the cost of the handheld itself

[@____5837]

Most of the others have a usb 4 port which has tb4 too and in my experience works fine with tb4 egpu docks, although for my legion go i ended up going with occulink because it's faster and it's pretty easy to boot from an m.2 in a thunderbolt adapter instead of the main ssd

[@DarrylAdams]

The one thing I miss watching LTT on Floatplane is the top tier champagne quality Dennis ad reads!

[@Metal_Maxine]

The bit where the ear fell out into the broccoli, though, blech!

[@BaldrsFate]

I cannot wait to see the future of handhelds as more companies are coming out with their own designs. I just wanna see the competitive price comparison between each handheld, really I just wanna see and know what's gonna be the bang for our buck, like what's gonna be cheapest and best performing.

[@block3773]

It's the steam deck. All the other ones are more expensive from a bang for buck perspective.

[@IceYetiWins]

It's still the steam deck and it's not even close

[@pixelman2626]

@@block3773 not really a bang for buck if Steam Deck can't even run the game that I want to play

[@jamesgregsy]

One thing you might update is the reasoning for recommending the middle one. 50$ for the jump from 512 to 1tb is pretty reasonable, the small ssds still haven't really materialised in the same cheap and available manner as the large ones and unless you already have a 1 tb lying around you'll definitely pay more than 50$ for that (of course you'll also have a 512 in the upgrade mix to add to that value and in my eyes 512 is totally enough on these, especially when you add in a micro ssd and offload some of the lighter indie games)

[@BlackHoleForge]

2:43 Cliff coming in for the save. That's why he's the manager.

[@braydennturner]

Must say, I like the naming of this device the most. The CLAW just sounds badass. Lol.

[@billyeveryteen7328]

Yeah, nothing more badass than the little aliens from Toy Story.

[@David-ln8qh]

I'm thinking Jim Carrey in Liar Liar.

[@matthewhilty4209]

Dennis with his quirky personality and fun accent makes a great host for ad segments. Way to go Dennis. Great Job 👍

[@FrostclawPlays]

Wifi 7, Bluetooth 5.4, Intel Ultra, AND Hall Effect joysticks and triggers! MSI really packed all the best and newest tech into such a tiny space and for such a reasonable price!

[@TrowGundam]

Does the screen support VRR? If not that seems like a good advantage to the Ally still. I will say I am pretty intrigued, but I need to see performance numbers before I decide if I want to upgrade my Ally or not. And then there are the upcoming Ayaneo devices to consider, the Emulation enthusiast in me is SEVERELY tempted by the Flip DS with the new Ryzen 8000 mobile chips and that secondary display would make it perfect for DS and 3DS emulation. So many choices in handhelds. Thanks Valve for showing there was a main stream market for these devices.

[@Shmack_]

Ayaneo comes out with a new device every other month for the last year so I doubt they’re constantly updating each one. Just keep moving onto the next which fixes the previous one

[@cloudGGs]

Why are you thanking valve and not Nintendo?

[@the.human.spirit]

​@@cloudGGsBecause nintendo doesn't make handheld PCs.

[@fiftythirdth]

@@cloudGGs Because Valve brought back the excitement for portable PC gaming back to mainstream, although there was always excitement for people in the niche groups.

[@btprice2001]

The screen might but maybe Intel drivers do not?

[@Asturiau]

Coming from Razer Edge Pro 2013 with its big handheld, I can say Steam Deck and Lenovo GO are huge upgrades. Razer pro tablet came with WIndows out in 2013 and cost almost 1000 dollars for the Pro series. The battery life was about 4 hours on average, not sure why the battery can't last longer with these new devices. I still have my ancient pro and play it from time to time. I hope they find a way to optimize games to make the new handheld tablets last longer in terms of battery life.

[@Eli-zb2yj]

I am surprised that linus didn't drop it

[@gregor2436]

Most of the 3rd party handhelds are missing on the input (the trackpads). I use them extremely often on my steamdeck - and would never buy a device without these.

[@1unar_eclipse]

Gyro also seems like something Deck-only, right? Never heard of it on anything else

[@brianv3ntura]

@@1unar_eclipse gyro is in the ally and LGo, tho youd need handheld companion to make full use of gyro on the LGo while Legion Space matures in updates. on the ally, it works well.

[@coltonbyu]

The legion go has a single (currently kinda crappy but maybe firmware can fix) trackpad on the right side, none on the left @@1unar_eclipse

[@braydennturner]

@@1unar_eclipse The ROG Ally has Gyro control. The Ally's joystick-to-mouse implementation is also unbelievably good. I switched from the Steam Deck to the Ally and can say personally I absolutely hated the trackpads on the deck. Much prefer joystick and trigger for click control.

[@PurpleBrain99]

Legion Go has Gyro and Trackpad

[@rubino2474]

With so many handheld competitors it’d be great to see a video with your top recommendations to make it easier for buyers to decide. Great video ❤

[@Brogboolius_Maximus]

I'm surprised you didn't talk more about it using Arc GPU cores, both for compatibility reasons as well as being able to use XeSS.

[@huntertipton6197]

Probably because it’s expected and not really a bonus. Like it’s a standard feature on the amd side of handhelds to have the FSR suite (including FSR 3 frame gen in a couple months)

[@Brogboolius_Maximus]

@@huntertipton6197 Certainly could be, but I definitely see it as a bonus. FSR2 just isn't up to snuff relative to its competition, so I'd see XeSS as a good value add.

[@SelinSilverus]

@@Brogboolius_Maximus XeSS and FSR are both open source though, so AMD GPU's are able to use XeSS as well (and vice versa should AMD improve FSR futher).

[@yukami96]

​@@SelinSilverusThat's true but the Xess on non-Intel gpu is an inferior version due to hardware limitation It works best on Intel gpu

[@TheTyisawesome]

XeSS is junk you'd be better off using FSR

[@visiblehiggs130]

Wicked cushions are kinda worth it

[@revatomic]

Finally, hall effect is becoming mainstream!

[@Aldrnari956]

I thrilled to see competition in this space. I haven’t jumped into the handheld PC market yet, but I’m definitely interested.

[@Nostalgia_Realm]

Low latency audio with Bluetooth 5.4 sounds interesting, hope a video will be made about that sometime soon. Bluetooth audio latency has always been unbearable for me, watching the WAN show on Bluetooth headphones makes me feel nauseated after some time..

[@CodyTheAI]

I hope more handheld manufacturers start using naming conventions like kung-fu movie fighting styles. "My Claw will beat your Lotus." "Yes, but my Crane will outmaneuver your Claw."

[@haydenk_22]

I clicked this as soon as I saw it because me and my friends have an inside joke where I grab stuff with my hand like a claw and we just say “THE CLAW”

[@Voidward]

I vote Dennis do every ad from this point forward.

[@TheTakenChance]

Can't wait to see some benchmarks

[@sjoervanderploeg4340]

Poor Dennis has been demoted to commercials :D

[@EritoKaio]

Actually looks pretty good. Ive been thinking about an Ally but with so much BS with Asus a few months ago im just kinda not wanting to give them any money lol And the Deck OLED is still a little slower so we'll see how this one handles once it comes out.

[@ryanhamstra49]

I’ve had me steam deck oled for a few weeks now and, while I don’t play anything like starfield on it, I’ve been getting 4+ hrs playing borderlands and with it at max setting I get 80 fps. Plus it doesn’t run windows!!

[@KingLouieXD]

@@ryanhamstra49 I'd rather run windows

[@SpartanArmy117]

I totally get that, I've had my Ally for a minute now and love it, and still like Asus for that matter, but I definitely get the sentiment. From what I hear the Legion is a really solid choice still as well. I love that this market is growing, I only hope they don't oversaturate it and actually end up killing the market as a result.

[@YonOtto]

More and more of these will come out this year and next year. They'll all be scrapping for performance and price. LOVE IT!

[@alistairblaire6001]

Definitely interested to see the thermal/fan noise in a full review. My Intel 13th gen laptop was horrible with heat and fan noise and it was just an i5. But this is a newer arch so maybe it's better at least.

[@danielkirk8571]

Very little mention or comparison with the Legion Go. I still don't understand why. USB4 with eGPUs working great and it seems to have great driver support and community feedback.

[@4RILDIGITAL]

I appreciate the detail you went into about the MSI Claw, covering everything from external design to internal specs. The news about the integrated Thunderbolt 4 port for external graphics is exciting, looks like an innovative move.

[@Jessev741]

r u AI?

[@pazzoeo]

​@@Jessev741looks like it, I don't understand people who do this

[@ADDMEONPSN]

I’m gonna keep my Legion Go.

[@dappertree9016]

Mhmmm looks like better hardware than the Steam deck, which makes sense, but I think it not having an OLED screen is the biggest trade off, it's hard to go back to LCD after trying OLED

[@brandon_nope]

It’s easy to beat the Steam Deck in raw performance, but battery life and low TDP performance is more important

[@Azhalan]

That and the fact that Windows isn't really optimized for handheld devices. Things might change with later generations but atm, I think the Steam Deck OLED is still the best deal.

[@TheDutchMagicTeacher]

10/10 dennis did the sponsor segment and that is all that i need in my life right now!

[@ugotisa]

$50 for more 512gb :O . That's not bad and a real good deal.

[@hazeygnome1743]

I loved the pacing of the Denis ad. I also love Denis. Thanks

[@Jungedasgehtnich]

It's great to see the handheld category expanding as fast as it does, very much looking forward to getting one in the future.

[@DougTheFresh]

I like Cliff. Seams like a cool guy. “Not AS important” was hilarious lol

[@John.Philip.Tan876]

I love the repairability of this thing but I'm skeptical that they chose Meteor Lake inside. I feel like they could've gotten more if they went with hawk point.

[@OtCrostin]

Honestly, please have Dennis do more of your sponsor spots. The claw was cool and all but Dennis was by FAR the true entertainer in this video 😅

[@adamnagy1746]

Agreed😂

[@valentinvas6454]

Thunderbolt or not I wouldn't want a handheld with Intel until they catch up to RDNA3. AMD is soon coming out with RDNA 3.5 for APUs.

[@BrendanGeormer]

I like that they're making some improvements over the Deck and others like the 1080p screen, newer (probably more powerful, who knows yet) processor, Hall Effect controls, etc. But MSI has a history of anti-consumer decisions with their products, so I am not as open to trusting MSI will do right by the user with the Claw.

[@AnthonyChangBBA]

3:00 2 Sponsored videos = 1 Life

[@Fuilares]

The only thing missing for me is detachable controllers like in Lenovo Legion GO - I think it's gamechanger, because you can use it as a tablet

[@huntertipton6197]

So it’s not VRR like the ally? Interesting how none of the other handheld manufacturers are able/willing to do what Asus did in their screen

[@aria8928]

Loving these dennis ads. Truly a gift

[@____5837]

I'm a bit confused why he makes such a big deal out of thunderbolt when usb 4 supports tb 4 and has supported every tb4 device I've tried to plug into my legion go (egpu, dock, m.2)

[@goofysamathewise5561]

i need more dennis ads

[@rileyward1787]

since this vid came out 13 seconds ago i can tell you this is a classic

[@GhostintheShellOST]

4:35, 2 hours at 35W, wouldn't that require a 75Wh battery? 8 hours at 10W endurance mode, wouldn't that require a 80Wh battery? Have I misunderstood how battery capacity/consumption is defined or those claims just aren't adding up? Also that's just the APU consumption isn't it? Adding the fans, SSD, network card, main board, RGB, and (non OLED) screen consumption, I would assume lower results yet.

[@alantsai3453]

You’re right. I am surprised that Intel claims “53Wh/35W = 2hrs, and 53Wh/10W = 8hrs” 😂

[@rabidwallaby84]

OMFG. Who is letting Dennis write the sponsor segments?!?! LMFAO

[@LegionIscariot]

Thunderbolt is great. Because it "future proofs" the device to a degree. It also means the device can be truly used as a desktop computer.

[@AfroMyrdal]

Healthy competition in the handheld gaming space is always a warm welcome! Happy to see this thing being as user friendly as the ROG Ally. Shame though that they too when with the 2230 SSD instead of a 2280. But I'm sure like with the Ally, the Chinese will give us a solution to make it possible to run a 2280 without modifications to the case.

[@rosestrohm7986]

the switch 2 has to live up to these now

[@FnD4212]

Is there performance difference between 2230 and 2280

[@thorodinson3597]

The difference is higher cost on the smaller stick per GB, and heat dissipation capacity is much lower

[@arcadeportal32]

@@rosestrohm7986 There is a lot of competition now, Nintendo always has people flock to there Zelda/Mario games so they will be ok no matter what. But stuff like the Steam Deck that can go for under $350 and can play games like Balders Gate 3 or Hogwarts Legacy without the setting set to full potato mode like the Switch is going to be hard to beat. Been loving my Steam Deck, console experience without the walled garden experience you normally get with consoles. Edit: Well maybe not hard to beat, but there is a LOT of options now for a portable gaming handheld, not just the Switch.

[@fleurdewin7958]

@@FnD4212 Of course there is difference. 2230 form factor SSD has no DRAM.

[@iprotabori]

I love the penalty for breaking it isn't money, they know LTT and negotiate in sponsored videos

[@randomguy8056]

Using intel integrated graphics is pretty odd IMO

[@thegruia998]

It's not odd at all. What else are you gonna do, put a 4090 in it? Besides, a lot of budget ballers use integrated graphics whether its intel or AMD just because it's cheap, and on this line-up of chips, which arn't even made for normal PC's, the graphics hold up about as well as a low-midrange GPU in 1080p.

[@mikefize2279]

Meteor Lake graphics seem to be pretty good and roughly on par with AMD

[@jmtradbr]

It's odd because AMD integrated graphics is better than Intel integrated graphics.

[@MallocFree90]

​@thegruia998 it's simple, AMD integrated GPU is much more powerful

[@iNfLune5]

I think he's calling it odd due to previous integrated graphics from intel were very power hungry and not very much performant for the wasted wattage

[@frederikex4545]

to the tunderbolt point in theory usb 4 shares the egpu compatibility since it is compatible with tunderbolt 3 so technically amd devices can have egpu it must be a decission from the manufacturer though and it isnt as fast.

[@goelandz878]

I always skip ad, but damn Dennis was awesome on that one. I just laugh at it.

[@hanswurst9866]

Whoever decided to use a crappy Intel chip for this instead of AMD deserves to get fired

[@billy65bob]

> 50 WHour battery > 2 hours runtime at max 35W TDP > 8 hours runtime at ~10W "endurance mode" The math ain't mathing

[@thespectator3312]

Convert typical capacity to Ah: 4700mAh / 1000 = 4.7Ah Use the typical capacity and power consumption to calculate theoretical runtime: Runtime (hours) = Battery capacity (Ah) * Battery voltage (V) / Device power consumption (W) Runtime ≈ 4.7Ah * 11.61V / 35W ≈ 1.56 hours. So, depending on how you look at it, 1.56 hours is either pretty close to or slightly less than 2 hours.

[@thespectator3312]

Took the battery capacity details from the tear down section of this video.

[@billy65bob]

@@thespectator3312 even taking the claimed values, a 50WHour battery could only deliver 35W for 1h26m at best, and 10W for 5 hours. The details you gave there suggests it's closer to a 55WHour battery, but even that only extends the runtime to 1h33m (this is 1.56 hours) and 5h30m respectively. This is still considerably shorter than the respective 2h and 8h claims.

[@AirKhanFPV]

Okay props to msi for letting check the inside on a pre production unit before release date!

[@cho4d]

1:30 for concentrated sweat and grime.

[@scavenger_0898]

i love the part that the staff in MSI interrupted Linus when he was going to tear apart the unit, "MSI: wooow,,what are you doing?!, take this one instead!" hahahahah

[@alanandfriends-s2o]

The modularity of this thing is nice to see. Too soon to tell, but the performance and battery life seem really impressive. If it had touch pads like the deck I think it could be a contender for the top spot. That said, using windows on a handheld is kinda like pulling teeth. I'm curious if MSI can come up with a solution better than the ROG Ally did. I hated that thing.

[@L33tSkE3t]

I may have finally decided which one of these I’m buying.

[@knowledgeismoney913]

No OLED screen = No buy

[@mizoba]

This with 1440p oled is perfect. Games and youtube /movies

[@Lilblock545]

This did not age well

[@JSON_bourne]

For me both a sim slot and oculink port are a must to me for a hand held. I know the GPD win mini can use a sim card but its using the sim adapter for the GPD WIN 4 (name might be wrong but its the one with the side kick style sliding keyboard). If the updated 2024 model works well with sim card AND continues to have oculink (not shre why theyd drop it) i will buy one. Both as a phonr and a PC repalcement.

[@stormtechofficial]

With those specs, you could watch all your tech tips in 4k anywhere!

[@allenchi1004]

So cool and asome that msi build a gaming handheld i guess msi heard me cuz i comment in a video saying i would love to see other gaming companies brands build a gaming handheld.

[@stutututuwheeeee]

the claw is our master. the claw chooses who will go and who will stay

[@stopmotionfrance4938]

Tearing down the machine on the MSI booth was great. Thanks for that.

[@wwvdh1761]

My most recent MSI is the Pulse GL66 and I am looking forward for this one to get sold in Europe, especially The Netherlands, although I don't mind driving a bit into Germany.

[@botamochi178]

The trend is really good for us second hand hunters. With more competitors, the more abundant the supply will be. At this time, it’s just better to get a new one price-wise.

[@JustfknBill]

Tbh I can't fkn wait for the diy scene to blow up and get competitive! Let's get those tiny gaming processors and coolers up to par!

[@BooleanDev]

6:08 you arent gonna get an ssd for $50 bigger than 512gb... may as well upgrade to the $799 one up front

[@StrangerTechnology]

Haven't found that channel yet that's just an archive of Dennis' ad spots. Need to show people these, they're amazing.

[@MrMegaPussyPlayer]

1:24 Hall effect sensors: Something could go wrong at some point, maybe. Electronic does after a time, eventually. Potentiometer based: It will go wrong sooner than later. So, now what is the better option, hmmm? Despite what Valve said, the real reason is that hall effect based is more expensive, and that adds up.

[@MyAlteredSoul]

Kinda surprised the Legion Go wasn’t included in the comparison.

[@GTArajgaming]

whoever came up with that ad needs a raise

[@brianbeauchamp2383]

I gotta say, buying a steam deck was one of the best choices I have made to date and it gets WAY more use than my wildly more powerful gaming PC. Seeing other companies just into the industry is a great to see.

[@stelp7617]

Loving Denis doing the ad spots. also, this is making me want one of these Claws.

[@tethys81]

I've been running MSI for years, from laptops to desktops. Im always happy with their products and customer service is great. The only thing i can say they need to fix is their software dragon center but everything else, products is top 😊

[@macleoddaniel1]

How about a carrying case for the extra screwdriver bits from the regular size screwdriver? The cardboard box the bits come in is trash

[@MIZE9696]

I've been eyeing the different handheld gaming PCs for a month or so planning to purchase sometime in the spring/summer, so I will definitely hold out for the release of the claw. Appreciate the solid information as usual.

[@pielordbrian]

Now we need an arcade claw machine trying to grab a MSI claw, all while the aliens from toy story say "the claw" over and over

[@TheComander1234]

Gotta love the humor of clifford :D

[@microbuilder]

For me, this product will forever be associated with Jim Carrey lol

[@TwixxCustoms]

2 ad reads in a 7 minute video is crazy.

[@xshadow-0]

Ah, yes. MSI. The ones who make laptops whose screen hinges break after a year, they blame the user, and want 300$ to replace the broken parts.

[@BlackHoleForge]

I love Dennis's commercials

[@admwndl]

I love the bargaining over opening it, and that Linus will still send it to open the thing.

[@wabash9000]

I was expecting the video to end with Linus trying to power it on, freaking out, and then the MSI rep telling him it never worked.

[@randyhayden3159]

The clawww.... the claw is our master. He decides who will go and who will stay

[@G.A.N.]

This handheld have better screen than my monitor on my desk? Damn future is here old boy