The "Music is Subjective" Rant

[@veryveryreverie]

Billy, this can’t possibly have been made by you. It’s well edited and funny.

[@gab2876]

Ghert, this can’t possibly have been commented by you. It made me laugh.

[@charlieniven6558]

Gab, this can't have been replied by you. It made me smile

[@ochiai3]

Charlie, this can't possibly have been replied to a comment by you. It's well crafted and joyful

[@niponugga]

@@Krispysquare roman, i am pretty sure that this well concocted comment is made by the aliens instead of you

[@sips4296]

Niponugga, this response simply cannot have been formulated by you, it's vaguely unique and entertaining

[@exzyyd392]

Music I like: Masterpiece Music I dislike: Literal garbage

[@jokeryeha5167]

This 😁

[@swarler]

TRUUUU

[@kibi8311]

Yes unironcally 😎

[@chanr9531]

Wow this is literally me fr fr

[@bruh......2005]

Idk man, Garbage be coming with heat

[@bencarlson4300]

I once had a Reddit argument in a film subreddit where I was defending Steven Spielberg as a good director, and an admittedly more knowledgeable person disagreed with me. He justified his position by asking me if I had seen The Leopard, a 1963 Italian film, saying that that was a “real” film. I replied that I hadn’t, and he told me to go “watch more real cinema”. I have since seen The Leopard and a variety of other classic foreign films after over 5 years since that comment. My opinion has not changed and that person was a pretentious snob. Just be respectful.

[@ale305z]

I remember my teacher (I'm italian) tried to make my class read the book of The Leopard in like first year of high school Unbearable

[@bencarlson4300]

@@ale305z I liked the movie a lot, but it would probably be pretty boring as a book

[@starwarsvidsplus5288]

Facts

[@georgesikorski9891]

I hate when people use that argument. "This thing is bad because this completely unrelated thing that no one knows about is much better."

[@moeneet7069]

@@georgesikorski9891 oh yeah? Did you hear my little brother play on his toy Piano when he was 3 years old? NOW THAT is REAL music.

[@vinnypag]

sometimes i think to myself how sad it is that other people were born with the wrong opinions

[@chieludz]

lets face it,if everyone thinked the same it would be boring ass hell.thats why god created entertainment

[@leviathan3630]

fr

[@MarcosElMalo2]

You might or might not realize it, sir, but you are a Platonist. Watch a few videos of college professors explaining Plato and you can get the gist without having to listen to a Plato’s Republic Audio Book.

[@iamatim6039]

@@chieludz idk, personally I kinda like the idea of everyone thinking that my opinions are simply correct, but maybe thats just me

[@onutrof1157]

​@@iamatim6039 That's what social media are for. You just need to pick the right one and bend your beliefs a little, to join the hivemind.

[@boomercycle1951]

The Most Heated discussion I have ever had was I was talking with a friend about the (then new) Arctic Monkeys album and all he said was "Not a fan" and it ended there.

[@mainegameboy5670]

Well what was the album?

[@gavinhaney7187]

if it's tranquility base then I wouldn't trust him as a friend

[@liammcgrath7051]

Its so funny cuz in real life thats where it ends, but on the internet I garuntee a conversation like this would have like 50 replies of people debating lol

[@boomercycle1951]

@@mainegameboy5670 Tranquility base. It was a bit more in depth, him saying it's to different from the prior albums, while I liked their willingness to explore new sounds.

[@somethingorother3405]

@@gavinhaney7187 tqbh+c takes a little getting used to enjoy, but when you do its really good

[@Roperfield]

Take it easy on the flintstone gummies good sir

[@brimstonebaker413]

You sound very smart, I think I will get all my political opinions from you now. Thanks Billy :)

[@lewisbaitup6352]

Cobbism

[@AdallynD]

@@lewisbaitup6352 On Billy's discord, we call it Cobbunism

[@ochiai3]

Cobbism and Fantanism, two very different things

[@scapeagoat2520]

@@AdallynD link?

[@chat6128]

@@scapeagoat2520 it’s billy’s about tab but maybe you need to be a member or something because it doesn’t work for me

[@guythatdosethingssometimes2651]

I find music the absolute hardest thing to discuss beyond a surface level. The experience of listening to it is so personal and informed by so many things that even all the theory knowledge in the world isn't convincing anyone of anything. And the rules are so nebulous and wishy-washy to begin with so alot of the time that any "rules" hardly ever matter.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

Music is one of the few topics where you can win or lose your argument based on interpretive dance.

[@gabe_s_videos]

As the old saying goes, writing about music is like singing about architecture. It's a fruitless, impossible goal. However, since a lot of us do it anyway, I point to another, more positive quote from Stephen Sontheim: "Music is the richest of the art forms because it's the most abstract." If we MUST argue about music, we have to accept that all conclusions are basically meaningless to everyone but ourselves.

[@bobbirdsong6825]

i would disagree. it's very easy to discuss - if you play/write music. what really bugs me is when self-proclaimed "music enthusiasts" get off in putting down other's opinions or calling fans of certain styles "brain dead" when they themselves don't write songs or play professionally. not counting all of the people who are amateur musicians. I consider that significantly different from making a product out of your art, especially if it is a genuine emotional expression.

[@b3nl555]

Yeah, I feel the same way. I've never seen a proper discussion or argument about music before. What the hell do they talk about? "I felt as if the beginning of the song started off strong with the reverb but then the tone and beat started shifting to synthwave and it totally threw me off."

[@thatboultae9327]

💯​@@bobbirdsong6825

[@spacebread08]

Billy is the definition of the average (age 18-22) Music store employee

[@batemanboi9672]

I love average people

[@JaRaJansoo]

Musical debate Thesis: "Wow, this song was terrible!" Antithesis: "In this 4 hour video essay I will explain why Blink 182's song "My girlfriend was actually my dad" is an underrated subversive masterpiece, and how it will change the nature of music as we know it".

[@subplzorideleteurchannel7193]

“Erm actually the song is titled ‘Roblox Dating Experience’ not ‘My Girlfriend Was Actually My Dad’” 🤓

[@camsons]

Woah great video Billy, unfortunately I will have to unsubscribe as I hate music especially albums and songs 💜

[@avidachs4434]

This but unironically. “oh let me listen to some sounds, that will be a fantastic way to spend my time” unfathomably silly. music is literally ass

[@manformerlypigbukkit]

@@avidachs4434 honestly music is such a waste of time and energy just go outside instead

[@cacawsthelaw]

if you hate albums, let me recommend EPs. they're shorter

[@Sillytommysadventure]

@@cacawsthelaw and songs

[@MarcosElMalo2]

@@cacawsthelaw sheet music. You get to enjoy the music without listening to any sounds. You don’t even need to know how to read music. Actually, that would probably be better, so you wouldn’t accidentally imagine any sounds.

[@eko9554]

I can criticize an artist, song, album, or genre for the reasons why I don’t like it but I will respect anyone who’s likes that particular artist, song, album, or genre.

[@fecalmatter7488]

one time i met someone that hated numetal and they said if they found out one of their friends likes numetal that they instantly stop being friends with them it was insane

[@Lethal_Spoon]

anime profile picture

[@fecalmatter7488]

@@Lethal_Spoon ok

[@marcuswoods5826]

Respect for people's musical tastes and opinions? CRINGE

[@MarcosElMalo2]

Either you are a liar or your respect has a very low bar.

[@SherlockRhodes]

I’ve said I enjoyed a song and got attacked verbally. This has happened more than once. I’ve seen other people attacked for enjoying music or just generally treated like garbage. People love to hide behind they’re anonymity. I just want people to be able to enjoy the music they want to enjoy. I don’t care if it’s a guy slapping the pavement with a fish to a beat, if someone thinks that’s the greatest thing they’ve ever heard they should be able to enjoy it.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

I somehow skipped over the word verbally in your first sentence and imagined that you’ve been physically attacked for your musical taste (more than once). I wondered about the context and I wondered about the level of violence. Were you playing Captain Beefheart at full volume at 3 AM, and your roommate punched you? I imagined him or her bursting into your room and shouting, “I have to get up in two hours!” Then I imagine you misinterpreting their words because you were at that moment blasting Pachuco Cadaver, and you replied, “I really enjoy this song”.

[@SherlockRhodes]

@@MarcosElMalo2 This visual had me cackling

[@ajvorob9117]

@@MarcosElMalo2 My dream is me in my car blasting no wave/noise rock like Daughters

[@Vincent-dw2mg]

Friendly reminder to finish that « old Green Day » song. Or else…

[@happycamperds9917]

My Girlfriend is My Dad >>>>>>> old Green Day

[@nix3l_]

“we live in a society” but its 10 minutes with skits

[@Gomer._.]

As if this vindictive behavior is natural or inevitable. We decide what we are going to do. Dialecticals and discussion only gets you so far if your only goal is to establish your right instead of using imteraction as an opportunity to challenge your own understanding of the world. Breaking your own ingrained biases through vicarious experience of others experience. The plot can be lost and won rather than promote a wide range of perspectives on purpose. We've lost the plot. Or something

[@Gomer._.]

Idk it's not about what you said so much as I just needed a place to leave this comment. 😮 to talk ab it... my irrational disdain for memes. Does this reframe it in a oh too bad, moving on way to a lot of ppl? Idk. I took it that way though. Not like it's any of our faults how the internet is given the fact it's 50% bots and now climbing. And the algorithms are in the hands of ppl who's motives are very clear

[@nemamiah7832]

My solution to this for absolute years was: don't look up any music discussion and listen whatever I like. Probably the main reason, why my taste in music is nonexistant and I'm listening to the hottest of garbage I can find. And I am happy.

[@vodka7863]

I really enjoyed the new type of editing and the topic really hits a thing in my head that makes me want to experience a “debate |“ of hardcore music fans

[@isaacbear7115]

Like the genre or the furiousity?

[@sgtryoseirui6394]

Get a load of this edgelord and their columbine shooter screenname

[@abano4827]

@@isaacbear7115 or maybe both?

[@beef5010]

Just go on mu, there’s basement dwellers arguing about music every hour of every day.

[@B_COOPER]

No you don’t. It’s the chicken and the egg argument over and over again.

[@percilenis8464]

Music I like = my personality. Music I don’t like = I don’t like the sound of it. That is the entire story. You can melon-head your way into nuanced discussions about how artists evolve over time in their sound and creative expression and how some artists are more competent than others, but for 99.99999999999% of people, music is literally just “this is my identity and if you attack my musical taste you attack me.” Boring. Stupid. And a waste of time.

[@gregvs.theworld451]

Damn, Billy Cobb going into his Bo Burnham arc, with a little dash of Forever Young in the sound, I like it.

[@Namkify]

"Retired Emo Kid" - I NEED that

[@genroynoisis6980]

Aetired Emo Kid

[@AlgernonCSwinburne]

In my opinion, which is indeed subjective, this entire video could be interpreted as a song, with the first ~7 minutes being spoken word. Anyway, well done, Billy!

[@robindabank5980]

Often times when people argue against a certain band or music they come off as very pretentious, and they usually make me feel like I'm the idiot for having any positive feelings towards this music. It's like their music taste is supreme and I'll just listen to gosh darn anything

[@RambleOn07]

Nah, if you like something then you like something. Anyone who is so insecure about their likes that they have to devote their lives to forcing their opinions on others are just pathetic.

[@bluegum6438]

It doesn't have to be critically acclaimed to be enjoyable, some people huff their own farts so hard they forget to just enjoy things

[@doughboywhine]

Idk man, maybe they’re right. Maybe you will just listen to anything

[@QoyYT]

Online discussion of art is the number one source of brain rot in today's youth

[@joriankell1983]

You sure it isn't the political garbage?

[@laylaevadestaxes788]

@@joriankell1983 Both are bad

[@noosurprises]

@@joriankell1983 nah online art discussion is worse

[@gabe_s_videos]

"The internet is a communications tool used the world over where people can come together to bitch about movies and share pornography." - Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, 2001, dir. Kevin Smith

[@wolfetteplays8894]

@@noosurprises nope, because art encourages freedom. It’s definitely Prussian education and brainwashing

[@Nyxthebat04]

Music is, essentially, about sound good, and what sounds good to you might not sound good to other people. A band can have the best intentions, the best lore, be considered ground breaking for their time and you might not like their sound. A band might be considered bad, lacking substance, tacky - and yet you might like their sound and find meaning in their lyrics. I think the only true wrong music opinion is "X artist is objectively bad", because art cannot be objectively bad.

[@joriankell1983]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaSZdIObmKaqmqc So this is not objectively bad?

[@samshow8462]

Theres argument for objectively bad art, low effort and low quality just made to launder money, the banana duck taped to a wall kind of "art"

[@wertsir6060]

@@samshow8462 Counterpoint, art that is low effort and low quality can be manufactured intentionally for the purpose of providing commentary on the state of the greater artistic community, or simply to help it stand out from it, and still be good art. Take for example, Folk Punk, a musical genre founded on a form of intentional Stylistic Suck as a reaction to the perceived overproduction and sort of sell-out nature of traditional Punk Music. Which often uses low quality audio and intentionally imperfect instrumental and vocal work to set itself apart and make an artistic statement. Is all folk punk objectively bad just because being low quality is a part of the aesthetic? I don’t think so, but you might, and thereby it is subjective. Or in another direction, Is Tommy Wisaus the Room objectively bad art? It contains a lot of terrible acting, a story that makes no sense, and some truly baffling filmmaking choices, by many metrics it is a terrible film. Yet simultaneously, it is greatly enjoyed by a great many people. Enjoyed ironically as a comedy, to be sure, but enjoyed nonetheless. So I think what you’ll find is that even if something is low effort and low quality, it can be considered good dependent on the mindset of the viewer and how many levels of irony they are on. And if the quality of a piece is dependent on the mindset of its viewer, then it’s quality is subjective.

[@bricksbybricks34legoandmor2]

yeah my favorite band is AJR and I swear there must be something in the genes that decides if you like them or not.

[@usualdosage7287]

@@samshow8462 nope not even that, music is art, and art could be absurd or be "low quality" to people, well what it low quality to you? Bad production? Bad production could even be used to make a new sound like in lofi genres, bad instrumentation? What exactly is bad instrumentation? Simple easy instrument parts? If they can express the feeling to you with a simple rythym or melody that's even better, it shows you know how to make the most with very little, as opposed to making something with very little substance but a million notes

[@weezerfan70]

this is a cinematic masterpiece that will be talked about for ages to come

[@LittleSeasonist]

This is gold. Sometimes those differing from you will turn you on to new interests as well. I've discovered quite a few artists that way. I love discussing movies & music because of everyone's opinion. It's like discovering a culture you weren't aware of at times

[@nicolasgralewicz4727]

The song at the end uses familiar chord progressions and rhythms and combines them with familiar vocal delivery and structure. That means it's fucking terrible for doing nothing new, however...I like how it sounds.

[@ajvorob9117]

Some chord progressions are overused for a reason. Because they work.

[@Darksider54189]

Originality is the most overrated thing in the universe.

[@nicolasgralewicz4727]

@@ajvorob9117 /Whoosh

[@dokkabaerpg7896]

🤓

[@nicolasgralewicz4727]

@@dokkabaerpg7896 It’s a bird. It’s a plane. No, the joke just flew over your head

[@layne05]

The song at the end of this video gives off Bo Burnham energy (with the performance and all, with lights and stuff). Also, kinda has similar piano to The Five Of Us Are Dying by MCR.

[@distortiongal]

Except it actually sounded good and was funny.

[@layne05]

@@distortiongal Is this comment insulting Bo Burnham or MCR?

[@distortiongal]

@@layne05 Bo Burnham

[@layne05]

@@distortiongal I was about to start a music argument and then I realized what video this comment is even on. I mean, in my opinion Bo is a great comedian and songwriter, but you disagree and I can respect that. Not a lot of Bo Burnham (well, outside of those that deem him "problematic") haters.

[@nickl2854]

Reminds me of songs for Silverman era Ben folds

[@aqwthetroop]

One common problems, that makes the "music is subjective" statement ring more true is this situation: take a genre like harsh noise. You can have two people that say "this is a harsh, unpleasant wall of sound and it sounds like nails on a chalkboard." One person is stating that as a criticism, the other as a positive point of praise. This is why you can't have an objective marker for music, because a lot of it is too sensitive to cultural context and individual taste. The best you can really do as a critic is compare music to the broader contemporary music scene and describe how well it either adheres to those standards, pushes them forward, or subverts them to various degrees (on top of the technical aspects). This doesn't really make music "good" though.

[@tuskvi]

Music is literally the auditory representation of the quote "One man's trash is another man's treasure".

[@Raycifer]

I'm putting this in my downward spiral Playlist

[@CaiominTwin]

the best case scenario for music discussion/debate is to give yourself a new perspective on music, whether you already like it or already hate it

[@gabe_s_videos]

Reminds me of when I said somewhere that I felt the writing on Bojack Horseman was needlessly cruel and the abundant lack (if not deliberate absence) of characters who weren't outwardly hostile, depressed or stupid felt more tedious than satirical, and that it would have improved significantly if there WERE more stories with at least non-sad endings so any messages taken from it would feel more worthwhile and not pointless. The literal first response I get: "Life's not just black and white."

[@artless3438]

Well I think online text discussions are bad if not in a traditional forum, there are sometimes messages we can take away. In this case, the lazy comment was trying to retort with this (I think): Many people who resonate with this show have extremely tragic and depressing lives. When a show tackles the many identities that have large chances to fail (Hollywoo industry, journalist, infertility, addiction) these stories statistically have a heart breaking end so those who watch have a similar outcome to the characters. Bojack will relapse, Diana has to struggle with cutting off those who enable her bad habits, etc. At least that’s my interpretation. You have my unironic apology that you expected a good conversation and got a non constructive and lazy reply.

[@gabe_s_videos]

​@@artless3438 I get what you mean. It's just frustrating when you want to share your passionate thoughts about something (albeit something very trivial in this case) and the response you get is either a deliberate misunderstanding or takes what you said as a personal attack. Again, literally all I said was "I don't think the writing on this show is very good."

[@artless3438]

@@gabe_s_videos Totally feel you. I'd stay away from social media for discourse- either talk IRL, a respectable voice chat. If you have to write your thoughts though, try finding a good forum for discussion. Reddit, Twitter, etc. are only forums by genre- but provide nothing, but useless arguments and lazy replies. Cheers!

[@gabe_s_videos]

@@artless3438 Couldn't agree more. I've lived on the internet for the better part of my life, and the stereotype of antisocial habits coming through more when you're behind a screen (myself included) is not only true but, IMO, not taken seriously enough. Social media didn't fix it, they just profited off of it.

[@ApocalypticRenegade]

I know this is a very late reply but you just perfectly summed up how I feel about the show and how people usually respond to my criticism. Really is a small world.

[@letmedie4524]

I’m not lie gonna after avoiding your videos for the last year I’m gonna check them out because this video is so good

[@gentlemangamerec7025]

5:41 Man I can't believe that Andrew Ryan's Speech still holds up! Great Video Billy

[@mr.froglegs]

Andrew Ryan was based AF, especially the part where he let his society collapse cause of heavy drug use.

[@pontythython1901]

Im glad to see you to continue to branch out. I want to see you become an ever evolving content creator.

[@hadinasrallah8928]

I hate that when you said “no it can’t be” my mind immediately went to “our dog,brian griffin is dead!”

[@thedogfromraditude5449]

0:57 me listening to Shoot For The Moon, Aim For The Heart

[@malachiroberts6198]

My dad is the kinda ass who always had to cast any music he doesn't love against his favourites. Elton John is great and his many Grammys, Platinum Hits and billions of dollars prove he is a well loved musician... still others can be good too.

[@jg6551]

my mom is like that too. Anything that is not maroon 5, gwen steffani, or a popular 80s rock band is immediately weird, not good, and will shape me into a bad person

[@angelor9211]

As someone who loves art, Ive had the same experience and agree with you, multiple opinions coming from different people who all think they are in the right Everyone has a godamn opinion, and just don't try to take anything to personally

[@bigkroner766]

People treat consuming music like math, as if there’s a correct answer at the end of the process

[@johandrytenias1725]

The problem with saying "Music=Bad" is that the other person can say "Music=Good" and neither of them would be right, the debate ends. I prefer to frame it as "I CONSIDER this to be bad, therefor I don't like it" or "I THINK it is the greatest song ever written" even though I'm aware there's no way to prove it

[@onutrof1157]

I remember when I worked at production line. One of the worst days I had there, wasn't even the most tiresome and frustrating, I was just forced to listen to disco polo for 8 hours. 8 hours of cheap saxophone melodies and repetitive lyrics like "oh girl give me all you got, give me all you gooot fgcdddzsdjnj". Until that point, I didn't really hate that genre. One day, the person who turned it on, got what they deserved, because some girl started blasting dubstep. The old disco polo fan was shouting to turn it off, but the girl either didn't understand because she was from Ukraine or just didn't care.

[@ajvorob9117]

Disco polo?

[@onutrof1157]

@@ajvorob9117 A subgenre of pop dance music, invented in Poland. It should have died long ago, but we have a lot of old people in the country, and the damn thing just evolved by mixing itself with rap.

[@ajvorob9117]

@@onutrof1157 ah I think every country has its own version of pop dance music. Pop dance music is one of those universal genres. It's ubiquitous

[@ajvorob9117]

@@onutrof1157 regarding dubstep, I think it has been unfairly maligned. I always associated dubstep with Skrillex but he isn't really dubstep. Originally dubstep originated in the UK in the early 2000s and it sounds pretty nice actually.

[@MarcDevero]

Nice hearing you rant, Billy, and I really like your emotional vocals! 🎶💖🎤🔥🎶 Cheers! \|/

[@Disso_nant]

It's definitely weird arguing about music (even though I do like to). The problem is that you can really appreciate the mechanisms in music that create a certain effect, but not everyone is going to agree that the end results are valuable or enjoyable. For example, I had a conversation about Eternal Champ II by Sweet Valley with a friend. It's a great album and I love how it drastically sways and loops through disparate genres, but my friend hated how disconnected the songs are and said it made them feel incohesive. We both agreed about what was happening mechanically, but our reception was totally different. At the end of the day the discussion can be fun but you have to accept and respect other people's opinions, because the alternative is disrespect which really only serves to feed negativity and your ego. But music is all about community and relating to shared experiences, so you should always be trying to build bridges and connect with people through it.

[@Vinseenit]

That opening is hilarious

[@dr.nosborn5416]

BRO, great video, more pwople need to see you, good content

[@mattbeatgoeson]

You put up a picture of Led Zeppelin for Greta Van Fleet and I immediately subscribed.

[@layne05]

Daddy Cobb strikes again with another hot take!

[@QueenYeenOfAberdeen]

Okay but I very much enjoyed the editing on this video and the entire video itself, very well done Billy

[@mushfiqahmad1783]

holy s*** mom look someone finally talked about my frustration

[@vlvvv2064]

Ur allowed to have opinions and people are allowed to disagree. If you don’t want to partake in conversation about the music you like you don’t have to but no one’s opinions are immune of criticism.

[@T3nMiDGET5711]

“My Girlfriend was actually my dad” had me 💀

[@TheDestroyerComics]

the rant at 6:00 felt like scar symmetry lyrics 😂

[@nomore.1598]

Why is the song you made actually one of the best things I've ever heard

[@littleshyghost674]

Great song at the end💖 you have a beautiful voice :)

[@emmalynsilva7144]

It should be a rule for every retired emo kid or soon to be a retired emo kid to have that shirt.

[@desertfox1815]

The mic drop to the fade away killed me that was awesome. Eh Billy good rant I enjoyed that

[@endgameisbad2733]

i agree, sznz summer was amazing!

[@MusicJunkie37]

Pretty sure Billy didn't like it that much, unless it grew on him

[@BenjiGamer91]

Man, that song at the end is great. Like… ending of an amazing album great. Congrats man, please put it out somewhere haha.

[@fantasydip3142]

So eloquent that im gonna put your speech into voice samples for my next demo

[@thefalselemon579]

Bless you sir, you have saved my soul. I've been quite the music snob in the past

[@riversherzog4055]

This video is very good, keep uploading Billy.

[@aldowilliams4765]

What bothers me is the people who come down the hardest on musicians they don’t enjoy most of the time don’t have the balls to make their own songs and release them. If your life’s work is just tearing apart those who’ve attempted to make something that contributes something to the world whilst you contribute nothing, I can’t respect you. And most of the time it’s glaringly obvious they’re just trying to compensate for insecurities. But at the end of the day music lives on forever in the hearts and minds of those who appreciate it, regardless of how harshly some judge it, and of the quantity of critics who do. Look at Pinkerton

[@charizardmaster13]

I always find it funny that people put higher value on certain musical artists and styles and treat it like a fact that those are "objectively" the better music. Despite the fact that this all comes from personal opinions and societal standards throughout musical history which itself is formed entirely off personal opinions

[@jesseRya]

The only subjective aspect of music is whether or not it's sounds good. But judging a piece of music based on whether or not it's pleasing to the ear is also a flawed way to measure its worth. I wouldn't exactly consider system of the Down "pleasing to the ear" but the sound evokes a specific emotion or provokes a specific thought. Like the painting The Scream. It isn't necessarily pleasing to the eyes but the message is what matters. Like a letter from the artist to the viewer. I guess what I'm saying is the only subjective aspect of art is the respective sense used to observe it. In terms of technicality, execution these things can be analyzed by professionals. But no one can say for sure what the "correct" way of judging a piece of work is.

[@tjofcarolina1776]

Agree with this. This made me think of how the word "Fun" is treated as the most important thing in video games but one of my favorite games Silent Hill 2 isn't trying to be "Fun" exactly

[@ajvorob9117]

I love dissonant and ugly sounding music a lot because it's able to stir more visceral emotions than music that is more melodic. I love both though.

[@smugbowkid9919]

There’s objective flaws, and subjective flaws. People just can’t seem to separate the two, for some reason.

[@spartanguitarist6579]

what is an objective flaw?

[@nomad8130]

@@spartanguitarist6579 Audio fidelity

[@TacticsTechniquesandProcedures]

@@spartanguitarist6579 off tempo, out of key.

[@2emo2function]

@@TacticsTechniquesandProcedures not an objective flaw, there is no rules to music

[@spartanguitarist6579]

@@nomad8130 good point

[@JohnDoe-vc5qb]

Which is worse, this or the classic number of sales = objectively good?

[@littleshyghost674]

I love your shirt Billy

[@crispybanana3198]

my philosophy is that taste is entirely subjective but quality isn't which explains why we get "better" and "worse" bands when for example you ask a some random town about the beatles and their local the killers ripoff, while someone may have such taste that they like the local band more, i think general appeal is a valueable tool to measure "goodness" of an artist/a band and people that go against the masses and say "there is no way of telling one band is better than the other because it's different to everyone" are not exactly right

[@BabzaiWWP]

i like when art can be art despite its technical skill

[@darthdorkus]

Fantano would get less hate if his opinions weren't presented as authoritative. Also I was surprised you didn't bring up that Greta Van Fleet, as well as Zerwee are more than just bringing back a style. They're both straight up impressions of specific bands. Not that I think that makes an artist any less valid, I was just looking foward to that being part of the discussion as soon as GVF was brought up.

[@GenericMerchant]

Can't wait to release my 5 second loop of nails on a chalkboard for 10 hours album. I'm sure it'll get the same reception as any other album, because no objectively bad music exists, it's all just taste.

[@LechQuem]

I got an ad for paramount+, right after you said "you are paramount"

[@someblokeidk8565]

that new Blink-182 song is a real banger 😳

[@tubbyandtoothpick8583]

bro u turn into Gene Wilder in that rant before your song LMAOOOOO love the vid bro keep it up c:

[@nizzleprizzle9783]

Love that John death noise when you turned old

[@roxythelipstickpixie72]

I never knew I could find a video I love as much as this one.

[@klinerfan69]

Good video, although I profusely vomited acid during the parts of the video in which the word "emo" is shown, this word is a trigger for me to vomit acid like an insect which during this process I accidentally killed my dog and I have lost a majority of my floors and all interior walls.

[@constellation-sj8xn]

You need to get that checked out

[@constellation-sj8xn]

You might hurt yourself

[@klinerfan69]

@@constellation-sj8xn nah bro it's all good, just gotta ride the tides of life on a sea of volatile acid that is spewing from my orifices

[@jg6551]

@@klinerfan69 damn bro. good luck with your health. and if things get tough just repeat to yourself it’s just a word and it can’t hurt you

[@mr.froglegs]

Dudes part Xenomorph

[@hellbooru9639]

1:12 playing with Blender again, Mr. Cobb?

[@Tickerchicken]

When billy is taking about how ‘real rock is dead energy’ what’s playing under it, like the specific song

[@cantbehelped]

I have never been so viciously and personally attacked for my music opinions than on musical subreddits... Its like you cant criticize bands you love without being a troll or a fake fan. Except r/weezer. Seriously, they are the only chill one I've subbed to.

[@hunterontherun807]

What I hate who say that there is real or fake music. I'm not a fan of new music nowadays from mainstream artists, I love old stuff and funny meme rap or soundclown songs.

[@tylerramos7633]

When it comes to music while I absolutely hate and don’t understand how anybody can like certain genres I also acknowledge that some people probably feel the same way about me and the music I listen to. Everyone has different tastes and shit y know.

[@slmjkdbtl]

Music is not subjective, my taste is objectively the correct taste

[@liamphillips2339]

I don't think criticism is bad. But I do hate when people make blanket statements without offering any actual criticism, when they could just say that it's not music that they are into. I.e. [insert genre here] is not music or this isn't nearly as good as [insert artist here] You ask why and the response is, "it's just not."

[@nathanmckerrow9059]

Love the tune, objectively with credentials.

[@TrendingFrog]

Holy shit I love you Billy that song was amazing

[@narsheguard6417]

Ram Ranch will never go out of style.

[@jeremyelbertson4427]

Love your uncontrollable tic energy

[@oxycodin2253]

1 minute in and I already love this guy, instant sub

[@asloii_1749]

Why is your name an opiate drug

[@soundbarracks6275]

amazing video. loved the take and loved the song. subscribed.

[@mingtheoofer4101]

Cool, what do you think of the new Weezer thing, Weezer boy?

[@JoeElJalapeno1810]

Ok billy i get it, Green Day it aint is use to, it aint what it use to, do i burn My discs, My posters My shirts ? Do i go and buy all your merch to atone for My Sims ( that one is not a joke, i'll Buy all your discs as soon as i get a job ) I would Say i wouldnt like punk rock...pop whatever if it wasnt for them, but after father of all mtfcrs yeah i'll be a clown defending them, but what can i say i did like revolution radio but i was in the Rigth mental space to enjoy it, but ah Evreything else You said in your tier list( Worst to Best) i would agree, but ya know all jokes aside You could do a dreen gay, if You whant to, if not theres still pleanty GD loke a likes one just needs to find them Jess i guest i AM clown, later i'll be pre ordering songsilk Any way great video billy keep that wonderfull job You do

[@MediaMaker7]

Amazing high quality video, deserves more views

[@subplzorideleteurchannel7193]

“My Girlfriend Was Actually My Dad” needs to be made into a whole song

[@eatsleepplayrepeat]

Music is subjective, after all, some people think shit tastes already.

[@Jeremiah_Montoya]

As a Blink-182 fan, that opening was peak

[@henrike.n4842]

this is so well done how dosen't you have more subscribers or views?

[@dopey473]

5:41 the exact moment this video turned into Metal Gear Solid 2