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The Musician Who HATED Frank Zappa The Most

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AMERICA IN THE 90'S

AMERICA IN THE 90'S

Күн бұрын

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@williamwallace5857
@williamwallace5857 2 күн бұрын
Any musician who says Zappa was untalented knows nothing about music.
@jeffl977
@jeffl977 2 күн бұрын
Anyone’s allowed to dislike anyone else’s art, but to describe Zappa as not talented reeks of petty insecurity.
@flemmingjensen4060
@flemmingjensen4060 2 күн бұрын
True.
@JoeItri-b2z
@JoeItri-b2z Күн бұрын
Lou Reed and Frank Zappa hated each other but became friends and praised each other’s music. Frank asked Lou to introduce him at his Rock and Roll Hall of Fane induction. They are each big favorites of mine. I see people calling Reed untalented which is totally ridiculous. Reed and the Velvet Underground were trendsetters who have been imitated by hundreds of bands. Now Zappa? His talents would be extremely difficult to copy. He put hundreds of hours into his compositions. I saw Lou Reed 6 times but never got to see Zappa. I wish I had. Enjoy them people. They don’t live forever.
@thepagecollective
@thepagecollective 23 сағат бұрын
You win this comment section. Well said.
@TheMcglinn
@TheMcglinn 2 күн бұрын
Lou Reed - a musical titan? I think not.
@larspeterandreassen237
@larspeterandreassen237 2 күн бұрын
In his own mind he was
@TheMcglinn
@TheMcglinn 2 күн бұрын
@larspeterandreassen237 and yr point is?
@cpu554
@cpu554 Күн бұрын
Entertainer, Music was just his side hustle.
@thepagecollective
@thepagecollective 23 сағат бұрын
Vastly more influential than Zappa and his fervent cult of musician dudes.
@warmswarm
@warmswarm 2 күн бұрын
Lou Reed, that's just laughable, Reed could barely play the guitar, have you heard his "guitar solos"?. He learnt 4 chords and thought "that'll do for me". He's not fit to tie Zappa's shoelaces.
@stephenzayfert9356
@stephenzayfert9356 Күн бұрын
That's why he had Guitarists like Robert Quine play Guitar.
@weeooh1
@weeooh1 2 күн бұрын
Zappa didnt dislike the Beatles. He said in an interview "they were alright". He just didnt like the OTT adulation of them by the masses.
@JamminClemmons
@JamminClemmons 2 күн бұрын
Frank's band (1988 tour), played The Beatles, "I am the Walrus," onstage. It's out there on YT. In interviews, Frank has stated he thought the song was good..
@joebarr725
@joebarr725 2 күн бұрын
I recently saw an interview in which FZ said he only liked 3 Beatles songs - Paperback Writer, Strawberry Fields Forever, and I Am the Walrus.
@johnaspinall3200
@johnaspinall3200 2 күн бұрын
One of the most talented guitar players ever
@petergrohmuller1372
@petergrohmuller1372 2 күн бұрын
Opinions may differ about Frank Zapp's oeuvre and his immense output. However, it is undisputed that he was one of the most productive musicians of all time. To describe this as "talentless" shows profound ignorance.
@nicholasbrowning4558
@nicholasbrowning4558 Күн бұрын
Zappa was a musical genius who could compose complicated classical and any other genre he fancied. He conducted orchestras. He just didn't like the sex drugs and Rick n roll that pervaded the music scene and the marginally talented musicians that were the product of record company promoters. Lou Reed was one of them.
@thepagecollective
@thepagecollective 23 сағат бұрын
Zappa was the kind of guy who could play everything but had nothing to say. Lou Reed was the opposite of an industry plant. They say about the album, The Velvet Underground & Nico, it only sold a thousand copies but every one who bought one started an important band. The fact is none of Reed's albums sold well at all. So, not an industry plant.
@scitsalcoryp
@scitsalcoryp 2 күн бұрын
Dangerous Kitchen is a pretty dang funny song .
@WytZox1
@WytZox1 Күн бұрын
* Beyond his musical talent Zappa was always a most brilliant showman! 😃
@tonywright8302
@tonywright8302 2 күн бұрын
Zappa was really cool, intelligent and the fact that he was anti drugs probably put some off
@cpu554
@cpu554 Күн бұрын
Espresso coffee and Winston cigarettes were his drugs of choice,
@andsomeenery2964
@andsomeenery2964 20 сағат бұрын
Read Howard Kaylans book and you will find Zappa actually did dabble with drugs occasionally
@appleturnover519
@appleturnover519 2 күн бұрын
Lou Reed?? That posturer?
@paulmayberry6943
@paulmayberry6943 Күн бұрын
fOne more thing- How many artists name check Frank vs. Lou as their inspiration, or as one of the most important musical artists of the century?
@MikeWiest
@MikeWiest 23 сағат бұрын
What did Frank Zappa and Lou Reed think about AI content? I’m guessing they would have “shared a mutual disdain” for it.
@tiluriso
@tiluriso Күн бұрын
I think the sentiment was reciprocal. IMHO, as far as musical output, quality, etc... Frank Zappa > Lou Reed. Far and away.
@scitsalcoryp
@scitsalcoryp Күн бұрын
Ain't no denying ' Metal Machine Music ' is a fuckin' classic
@paulmayberry6943
@paulmayberry6943 Күн бұрын
I believe it was more of a label contest. They were on the same label and Frank got more attention which grated on Lou. To each their own. I listened to most of Zappa's music, multiple times and was madly entertained. Do I want to listen to it over and over again? Absolutely not. Do I miss hearing it. Not at all. Was it music?Not to me, it was pretentious nonsense imho. Was Lou's music pretentious nonsense? Define music. On the other hand, Lou was an anti-hero, and a wordsmith, a poet., which is what he always said and he spoke for the people on the street. Did Lou claim to be a better musician tnan anybody else? He did not. Was he a better songwriter? Arguably, more important in the pantheon and lexicon of the music industry, he is legendary, as is Zappa. Frank was no fan of Lou either, but that doesn't; make him a better musician. Do you prefer Louie Louie or Beethoven, Louie Prima or David Lee Roth? Journey or Oasis? Beatles or Ramones? Lou composed a lot of very memorable songs that took decades to make their way into acceptance. Bowie certainly thought lou sas one of the greatest, Lou was one of the first to introduced atonal tuning, scattershot and discordant guitar, etc. and unquestionably more important lyrics than Frank. Lou is listed with Dylan, Lennon, Marley, Collins, Young and a few others as one of the greatest of songwriters. Was Frank?
@mindless-pedant
@mindless-pedant 2 күн бұрын
Lou Reed: "One chord is fine. Two chords is pushing it. Three chords and you're into jazz."
@JJG86
@JJG86 19 сағат бұрын
Reed couldn’t shine Zappas shoes.
@WocklessGamingforAnimeMoms
@WocklessGamingforAnimeMoms Сағат бұрын
I like Progressive Rock overall but Velvet Underground is way way way fucking better overall. Way better than The Beatles aswell. The Moody Blues and Soft Machine are both pretty cool though.
@John-k6f9k
@John-k6f9k 2 күн бұрын
I've heard interviews from Zappa and he's very funny, down to earth and likeable. Some of the quotes from him about a variety of subjects are so on the mark as well. He hung out with Brian May on Queen tours as well , and Brian told Frank he was annoyed that he made a mistake playing a solo. Frank told him 'if you wrote the song, you can't make a mistake when you play it' I thought that was so true. But I just don't get Zappa's music at all. I've tried listening to about 6 or 7 of his late 60s / early 70s albums and I can't last more than 10 minutes. And It's not a case of me being a close minded philistine, it's just that Zappa's albums are objectively terrible from a musical perspective. Being wacky, zany and purposely non commercial doesn't mean they're good.
@BelaLugosie
@BelaLugosie Күн бұрын
Zappa was always better when other band members did the singing.
@billypilgrim5329
@billypilgrim5329 2 күн бұрын
Zappa was the better guitarist, his work on Watermelon In Easter Hay is first rate, IMO one of the greatest instrumental songs. Reed was the better song writer and lyricist IMO, I play his music a lot more often than Zappa's. Both artists had a mean streak in them, from different roots no doubt, but alike enough to dislike each other, I would imagine.
@ChicTumshy
@ChicTumshy Күн бұрын
A well educated and experiential comment. I've heard of these two but never indulged. Thanks for the unbiased insight.
@frankperry-singer.guitarist
@frankperry-singer.guitarist 2 күн бұрын
Way too many albums. I like about 12 of them and the 12 I like I really, really like!!!
@flemmingjensen4060
@flemmingjensen4060 2 күн бұрын
What shit is this
@brucemarshall3446
@brucemarshall3446 13 сағат бұрын
Zappa was a technically proficient musician he had no talent for popular music. Better at classical
@bigverybadtom
@bigverybadtom 2 күн бұрын
Whatever you think of Frank Zappa, he will be remembered more for his being so opinionated than for his music.
@sohosean
@sohosean 2 күн бұрын
Zappa rose to prominence in the 1970s????!!!! Such nonsense. His biggest decade was the 1960s.
@nicholasbrowning4558
@nicholasbrowning4558 Күн бұрын
Well overnite sensation was a great album
@christhepostmanpoet6618
@christhepostmanpoet6618 2 күн бұрын
Fell asleep watching him at Hammersmith Odeon in 1981 - bored silly . If I hadn't been with people that I knew , I'd have gone to the pub Purile lyrics , plinky plonky "jazz" band (gives jazz a bad name) predominately male audience the same guitar solos track after track - in the words of John Lydon ....."are you getting your money's worth?" Pass the sick bag Alice
@scitsalcoryp
@scitsalcoryp 2 күн бұрын
Lou Reed right ?
@joebarr725
@joebarr725 2 күн бұрын
You claim Zappa's talent is limited, and you quote John Lydon? OK.
@christhepostmanpoet6618
@christhepostmanpoet6618 Күн бұрын
@@joebarr725 I mentioned his purile lyrics : Why does it hurt when I pee? I've probably got the gono ka ka kakas Miss P I N K Y mmmmm..... There is no denying he was a more than competant musician but his school boy "humour" didn't quite cut the mustard really , did it ?
@666sunburn
@666sunburn 2 күн бұрын
I like them both. And they are both death, so what´s the point.
@AndyMangele
@AndyMangele 2 күн бұрын
It's really weird with Zappa. Being a musician myself I'm fully aware that he was a musical genius - but do I like his music? I can enjoy "Freak Out" and some of his other stuff, but that's about it.
@John-k6f9k
@John-k6f9k 2 күн бұрын
He's not a genius. He just appeals to pretentious people because his music is so deliberately non commercial. Musically he's terrible. And I mean that in an objective and level headed way because I don't 'hate' Zappa at all. in interviews he's down to earth and funny, and he was miraculously sober. I would have liked to have met him. But I can't stand his music.
@AndyMangele
@AndyMangele 2 күн бұрын
@@John-k6f9k You don't seem to know an awful lot about how music works then.
@michaelhansen7516
@michaelhansen7516 Күн бұрын
@@John-k6f9k I listen to his guitar solos, lot's out there. I don't care for his songs either, but that guitar. I have a hard time appreciating most guitarists, they just come off as derivative. Zappa is in his own category, musical and original, of a certain style that no one imitates.
@TooSkinnyKenny
@TooSkinnyKenny 2 күн бұрын
i find most of his records unlistenable. The narration, the jokes, fake jazz, not nearly enough guitar playing.
@hansvandermeulen5515
@hansvandermeulen5515 2 күн бұрын
For guitar playing, check out Guitar or if that's foo much Shut Up 'n' Play Yer Guitar.
@williamfarr8807
@williamfarr8807 Күн бұрын
The narration, the jokes?: about a third of his 120 albums are instrumental. Fake jazz?: Zappa’s Hot Rats (1969) was groundbreaking, one of the first Jazz Fusion ever made, a year before Mile Davis’s Bitches Brew (1970). Not nearly enough guitar playing?: Check out Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar (3 CDs), Guitar (2 CDs), Trance-Fusion, Frank Zappa Plays the Music of Frank Zappa: A Memorial Tribute, all guitar solos beginning to end.
@papajohnloki
@papajohnloki 2 күн бұрын
to each...
@christopherclark564
@christopherclark564 Күн бұрын
Lou Reed was more rock and roll than Zappa ever was Better songs than Zappa too.
@MikeShafer-xg4zv
@MikeShafer-xg4zv Күн бұрын
Lou Reed didn't deserve to stand in Frank Zappas shadow.Frank was one of one the greatest musicians in music. Lou Reed Ha!!!!!The Archies were better than LouReed.!!!!!!!!!!
@christopherclark564
@christopherclark564 Күн бұрын
I never liked Zappa's music,what I heard of it sounded contrived and inaccessible. He seemed to have good musicians but I found nothing attractive about his songs.
@NelsonMontana1234
@NelsonMontana1234 2 күн бұрын
Certainly not untalented, but absolutely overrated. Most of Zappa's "groundbreaking" contribution was basically skillfully performed nonsense. Having said that, I'll add that Lou Reed is unquestionably the most untalented person to ever have a career in music.
@volpeverde6441
@volpeverde6441 19 сағат бұрын
not many zappa tribute bands....
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