The Mysteries Of The Sims 2

Today let's dive into one of the most popular and beloved video game series in the entire UNIVERSE (probably) - The Sims! Specifically The Sims 2. We'll take a look back at the iconic game and all of it's creepy and spooky elements- from ghosts, to zombies, to vaguely haunted DS games to an overall eerie and liminal feel, the Sims 2 has it all. Dim the lights, try not to burn down the kitchen making a bowl of popcorn, and prepare for a trip back to Strangetown.
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❤︎❤︎ MUSIC ❤︎❤︎
Heath Cantu / The Grey Winds [Provided By Epidemic Sound]
Amaranth Cove / Loss and Love [Provided By Epidemic Sound]
Brendon Moeller / Campfire Tails [Provided By Epidemic Sound]
Chaxti / Mountains Will Be Mountains Again [Provided By Epidemic Sound]
Chaxti / On The Sleeping Shores [Provided By Epidemic Sound]
❤︎❤︎ TIMESTAMPS ❤︎❤︎
0:00 - Introduction
2:24 - General Creepiness
10:16 - The Weirdly Grim Lore
26:10 - Mods
28:29 - The Sims 2 Is Very Broken
34:46 - The Haunted DS Game
38:49 - Conclusion [inscrutable emojis]
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All credit goes to the musicians and composers! This video is not meant to target or harass any person. This video does not condone or encourage anyone to harass or contact any person or persons discussed in this video. This video is purely for entertainment and informational purposes.

[@Izzzyzzz]

1 like = 1 sul sul

[@reshster]

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[@George.lovesseals]

Yes

[@theneonllama416]

On the on.

[@ceasarsalad5349]

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[@itzzzzyor_boi_staticTV]

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[@fruitbats2418]

this isnt to the fault of sims 2 but after my dad died, me and my siblings each made households of our family with our dad included and he kept dying to everything like immediately. we all kept remaking our us sims families and our sims fathers just kept dying to mostly fires, but also somehow drowned with the ladder in the pool and one time i think he died to a ghost of a previous dead dad. it was a lot to handle

[@daemonvanmeir9697]

damn that is pretty creepy....

[@snazzydrew]

I think Sims 2 just doesn't like to let dad's live. I made a basic nuclear family back when I was a kid. Two Parents, Two kids, a boy and a girl. One night when the father was doing stuff in the kitchen, the dishwasher broke. Dad decided he'd repair it when ZAP, he get shocked and collapses. I was actually pretty sad about it because i really liked this family. But what broke me was when the youngest child, the little girl, decided to wake up randomly and go downstairs where she found simdad lying there with Death standing over him. I cried pretty hard and didn't play Sims for yeeeeeaaaarrrss.

[@eagletgriff]

Whhoooopppppssssssss ☠️

[@BuenDude]

@@daemonvanmeir9697 and darkly hilarious

[@skeletorpizza4595]

Maybe it wasn't Sims 2 but Sims 3, but I remember I made a family back when I was 9, which consisted of me, my mom and my brother (which I've never had but always wanted). Everything was going fine until one day when he left the school building, instantly collapsed in front of the door and died. Shortly after I had to give the disc back to my cousin but jesus christ, I'd be alright with him dying if there was a reason but there really wasn't, all his mood stats dropped and his body literally just shut down

[@papyru]

The creepiest memory I have from the Sims, was when I once tried to customize a racoon with cheats- the menu opened up and there was the racoon, with it's body stretched into the adult sim model, the limbs long, skinny and twisted. And then my game crashed. 12 year old me was terrified lmao

[@itsoktonotbeokay]

Why is this the vibe I get from the werewolves expansion lmaoo

[@tapchoke2363]

I originally read this as “raccoon with cleats” and fully accepted it

[@user-xv1cs9mm9d]

omg this happened with so many things especially with cc

[@catz_circus]

@@tapchoke2363 I wanna see a raccoon with cleats now

[@arladg]

hell nawh

[@woodanemone9758]

If your make Dina grieve her late husband's tomb, she'll just shake her head. That is a very important detail, as sims who had low but not negative relationships to the past sim will act confused, like their death doesn't matter to them. Shaking head means the sims were on bad terms.

[@tundra4331]

ugh i wish we had that in the sims 4, im tired of sims greiving at random ass tombs and getting sad for like 2 days

[@woodanemone9758]

@@tundra4331 Heck I checked your comment and realized 3 k people liked this. Haha.

[@disarraygay]

@@tundra4331me when my sims get sad at witnessing the death of a sim that they intentionally caused

[@lotusdumplings7066]

As someone who lives in Nevada, it's so funny to see people freak out about normal desert stuff on the DS game. "The hotel is 70s, the saloon and jail are cowboy western, the shop is modern, and the road stops in the middle of nowhere" Yes, yes, welcome to Everywhere But Vegas.

[@mammoneymelon]

yup, that's the american desert in a nutshell LMAO

[@thebeccabeth2]

I remember taking my husband back home to Carson City and driving through Nevada just had him confused. Just empty desert, and then a casino and gas station would come up out of nowhere. It was hilarious.

[@kotohorse]

literally pahrump

[@lotusdumplings7066]

@@kotohorse REALLY LMAO

[@elwegener]

Right? I grew up in Nevada and I'm just like...no, no, that's accurate to real life.

[@willowo1443]

The sims 2 for the ds was so scary to me as a child. Some of the features were real time sensitive (like "You have to wait 3 real irl hours before this hotel room is built) so naturally I thought I could just change the time on my DS and it would skip forward. It does work, but you only find out about it after receiving a frantic phone call saying OH GOD WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?? and you find out that while you were time skipping, a bunch of aliens have invaded the town and the scariest music plays regardless of where you are and all the townspeople are loopy or angry or just generally unhappy and I remember when I first saw it I closed the game and didnt play it for a while

[@cavaleriedesmarresetdesguetres]

Yep, this ds game had me terrified lmao I actually thought the video would be about it 😂😂

[@edwardhybe]

The ds game made me break my poor DS as a child. I couldn't get past this one part with aliens in the desert

[@jelly_4_brainz]

Oh God I want to get this for my ds now lol

[@harrietnash2492]

Me too! I never went back to that game because I was afraid to be "outdoors". I think if I opened that game up now the feelings would still be there :(

[@mimik222]

Yes the one w the hotel it scared me so bad

[@alilaro]

This game also had the most terrifying burglar music. I remember every time it would suddenly start playing my little 10 year old self would be sent into an absolute panic.

[@finland4ever55]

That was from the first one

[@charlotteweir4955]

I always used to run out of the room whenever the grim reaper or burglar music would start playing cause the music apparently scared little 7 to 10 year old me that bad

[@alilaro]

@@finland4ever55 They both have them.

[@imightnotmakeit]

MY HEART WPULD DROP TO MY ASS OMG.

[@cambuck2231]

I remember getting straight up robbed in the game so after that I marked every door with an alarm system even though I guess I only needed one. You can never be too safe

[@TheKatti5000]

One of my absolute favorite creepy Sims 2 things comes from the Finnish version of the game. There was a hilariously dark translation mistake in the initial release, though it got patched out. With service NPCs such as maids and babysitters, you have the option to fire them. But the Finnish version had translated it as the wrong kind of firing. Not as in "fire from the job" but as in "fire a gun". People were absolutely baffled when the Finnish version of the game had the option to *shoot* a service NPC.

[@LJYU333]

That’s amazing omg

[@IchigoShinagami]

That sounds more like the USA version

[@maddieb.4282]

That is hilarious 😂

[@LucasTheOnion]

"take out the dog jimmy" "yes mother" 🔫 "not like that"

[@jubjub444]

Fun Fact: Nervous Subject has major bladder problems because The Grim Reaper does as well in the Sims 2. You can also notice the many bathrooms in the household as well.

[@TheGlue96]

Omg that’s why The Grim Reaper sometimes uses toilets at the lot when he finish his „work” lol my life has changed now D:

[@jubjub444]

@@TheGlue96 Yep he loves to clog the toilet XD

[@TheGlue96]

@@jubjub444 I didn’t know that XD

[@TheVictorianKMedia]

The Grim Reaper from Sims 2 was unironically my first crush. Something about that mysterious face and those boney hands had 11-year old me foaming at the mouth.

[@nice-qm5jc]

I would have taken this to the grave. Pun intended.

[@auntiem0thman]

Okay Olive we see you 👀

[@ignoreallmycommentsandreplies]

Pleaaaaaaaaaasssseeeeee 💀🙌

[@nuagejuice3848]

Honestly I can’t blame you

[@agent_star]

he was indeed a tumblr sexyman before tumblr sexymen were a thing

[@smokerwolf]

I played the sims 2 for a long time. I had a family of two vampire girls living in a big mansion. I left the upper floor completely empty with all the walls painted red. I would lure any neighboors that came by and then try to kill them by removing the pool ladder, locking them in a glass room with no doors, locking them in a room filled with fireplaces and wooden furniture, or any other ways I could think of. Then I would wait to the moment death showed up and make one of my girls start a painting capturing the exact moment of death, and that painting would go on the upper floor. At some point I had to start making more walls into that floor, because there was no more room for my macabre gallery. Good times.

[@madmiracles5617]

I love this so much omg. I used to make a lot full of cats and control all of the cats, and the single Sim on the lot was made to live behind a fence with no bathroom or bed and they would be forced to cook food for the cats to eat. and I would force the single Sim to eat the left over food that rotted. The cats got to live free surrounded by flowers and trees and beds and couches. While the human slave got to suffer near death, but they were never allowed the freedom of getting to die. Edit: totally worth it

[@smokerwolf]

@@madmiracles5617 lol you're making me wanna play this game again, being evil in a game were you are not supposed to it's sooo fun

[@kj3997]

When I first played Sims 2 I was still in elementary school. My first household was a Saw themed household named Death where I killed every Sim in the ways Gamefaqs said they could die. I named them by their death type: Fire, Fly, Satellite, etc. I had an extra slot for a Sim because I didn't want to do the old age or fright death just yet so I named a sim the "Nothing Death" where I trapped him a 2x1 room all by himself and waited to see what happened. He just peeing himself, passing out, and summoning the therapist and social bunny. Eventually he died of Starvation.

[@acidsucre]

yoooooooo metal af

[@lesbianslipknotfan]

that’s metal as fuck.

[@elgappa8693]

The creepiest thing about Sims 2 for me was the feeling of isolation. Sure, you played in a city, and technically your neighbors were just meters away, but it never felt like that. Plus we had a slow PC as kids, so loading into a new lot took ages, making it rather hard to get anywhere. So it felt like a small island in a sea of nothing, with all kinds of horrors about to lurk in

[@rustyhowe3907]

Then when open for business came out it became weirder, you left day 1 and stayed until day 2 or 3 at your shop then came back to day 1 at home.

[@TallTapper]

oh yeah especially with the default settings, it looks like you are the entire lot in that neighborhood, due to the fog and neighborhood houses/details disabled

[@morgana8037]

obviously, you've never played the Sims 1 ;)

[@cyqry]

If I recall Sims 3 introduced the idea of being able to physically travel to other lots. You can walk or if you get transport I think you could actually follow them? Even though you can easily chalk it up to limitations of the engine and available hardware at the time, it kinda does feel like they had intentionally designed it that way which makes it more unsettling.

[@SineN0mine3]

​@@cyqrydespite being the biggest improvement from Sims 2 to Sims 3 they somehow decided instantly teleporting from the lot boundary to a loading screen would be more fun for the Sim 4. For some reason they also decided to add a giant empty map around every lot so even though you can't go anywhere without loading out you'll have to watch your Sims walk to the middle of nowhere for 2 in game hours every single time. Remember when these games had cars? Lol.

[@Ether_the_puppet]

“Sims 2: Baby on the Grill” had me dying

[@carmenvehslage3422]

omgwtfbbq my beloved

[@nita_a_walker2662]

Idk how I missed out on that back in day 😂

[@betty5029]

after so many years, i finally found my trauma in a randomsims2 video

[@anti-username1497]

It also had the babies dying

[@_Unoffical_Norahhh_]

@@carmenvehslage3422

[@SweetyBean]

I wish that the Sims 4 had the personality of the Sims 2! They actually LOOKED like they loved each other.

[@Lucia-ct2sj]

@@Fluorescent.mushrooms that sounds both wholesome and horryfing

[@retroleoxo]

EA support team for Sims 4 are annoyingly useless, too. I've been in a month long battle trying to get EA to help me with a bug caused by their update and all their emails to me are six different people in one email telling me things unrelated to the ACTUAL issue I'm experiencing :'))

[@Gensys0]

I love how they could hold hands while sitting at a table together or do a slow dance. You know, the small things. Sims in Sims 4 are absolute husks.

[@retroleoxo]

@@Gensys0 Literally and with all the bugs that Sims 4 has, it makes them shells. Not to mention you can no longer control pets, so they're literally walking souless husks that starve to death even with ten billion full bowls of food in front of them and all the DLC content is much worse and baren compared to Sims 3.

[@nateclipps]

The sims 2 & 3 EAT UPP the sims 4 😌

[@frida8992]

Sims 2 is such a masterpiece. Being 12 and having my sims making out on the couch in their swimwear on the family computer while nervously listening for my parents. Building self sustaining death houses with my best friend. Absolutely fucking the game with cheat codes and having one of those fire jugglers permanently swimming around on my lot. I honestly think The Sims 2 helped shape me into the person I am now.

[@lake8323]

u r so real for this yes

[@yearninganimal]

yes girl

[@woodlandpricess]

Oh my goddd that reminds me of that one game in which you had to make the girl kiss her bf at work, i don't remember the name

[@Youtube.Commen-tater]

🆘

[@kalihunty6498]

LMAOOO SAME

[@ellemattel]

Mrs Crumplebottom getting bitten by a vampire crashing the game left me beside myself why is that so fkn funny 😂

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

literally u can get a mod to stop it ever happening (i think one version is that it despawns vampires whenever agnes is on the same lot or they dont register her as an npc able to be bitten) bc of how often it happened, plus bc shes a universal npc its not even crashing u have to reinstall the whole game 😭

[@kalezuki9231]

I hate her any way , so I just got the mod that removes her from the game. Another way to make sure she won't crash the game ( lol )

[@left4deadfreak]

If you look in Cassandra Goth's memories it does actually say Bella was abducted by aliens as well lol

[@KazRowe]

I was hoping you'd bring up the creepy DS game! That was the only version of Sims I played as a kid and it was totally creepy, especially the part where the longer you stay in the desert the weaker you get and then you either get abducted or pass out and end up back at the hotel and the sim character seems super sick. It made me so nervous I would just spend hours vacuuming or collecting stuff off the ground LOL on the bright side though this game is where I learned what "magnum opus" means

[@ZamShazam1995]

bro this comment unlocked memories

[@fancypapercutz]

Omg I still play this game haha

[@karalsor6145]

OMG I LOVED that game so much yet it scared the crap out of me

[@memaymoo8088]

I would love someone to cover all the sims ds games, each one had creepy elements

[@itzshortie9481]

The mob guy that lived in the penthouse 😭😭

[@onlyinsomniac]

Omg. I NEVER realized Olive was a serial killer. Just thought she was old so all her friends/family were dead 😬

[@karolinawasyl5789]

Same! Also, I realized that Alexander and Cassandra are probably inspired by Iliad, Alexander (Paris) of Troy has a sister - Cassandra and that's a pretty good analogy (to some extent ofc) because according to various ancient poems her life was full of tragic events.

[@nejdalej]

Me too!

[@frida8992]

Me too lmao. Honestly so much sims 2 lore was completely lost on 10-13 year old me, I caught onto the fact that Bella Goth was likely abducted by aliens, but I'm pretty sure that was *heavily* implied. I never even made the connection of Pleasantville Bella Goth lmfaoooo. Then again I pretty much fully populated Pleasantville with sims with the original Bella Goth face and overall look, so it's very possible I just assumed she was one of mine.

[@sand__witch]

@@karolinawasyl5789 Additionally, Cassandra's thing was that she was cursed with the gift of prophecies that no one would ever believe - she would warn her loved ones of a tragedy, but couldn't save them from it. And I can't help but see an analogy here, with Cassandra Goth ignoring all of the red flags and not believing anyone's warnings as she gets into a relationship with the town womanizer and main suspect in her mother's disappearance. This time, Cassandra is the one disbelieving the prophecies of tragedy (although here, they're not even prophecies, just common sense). Plus, the mythical Cassandra was cursed for rejecting the advances of Apollo, the god of, among other things, art. Cassie Goth, on the other hand, doesn't return the feelings of local artist Darren Dreamer.

[@chocomelo454]

It'd be best if that was the case tbh. Like it turns out she's just very unfortunate and as a result has become very grumpy and temperamental so everyone assumes she's a serial killer because of that.

[@korynnpoteat1830]

Sims 2 taught me the very valuable lesson to save and pause your game before getting up to leave. Had gotten up to use the bathroom came back to find my youngest sim sweeping up the ashes of everyone else in the house, than social workers showed up and I had to got back hours to an earlier save

[@peofun1]

I think this video just made me realize why the vibes in Sims 4 feel so off to me -- it's like they kept the goofy "haha aliens and superheros" stuff but completely forgot the underlying creepiness that made that stuff more interesting. The vampires do a creep-walk everywhere, the werewolves look Disney-fied, everything is so bright and cartoony and non-threatening... Maybe it's just because I haven't played 4 nearly as much as 2 and 3, but Sims 4 feels so shallow in comparison. Even Sims 3 had it's share of secrets (Fish Kid my beloved) and interesting family storylines. Meanwhile whatever mysteries they may have added into Sims 4 just seem silly and surface-level because the Sims themselves act like cartoon characters. Anyway I'd love to see you tackle the other Sims games as well, if you like! I feel like the Sims 3 evil doll mod fiasco could probably be a whole video all on its own.

[@anotherwordly]

Maybe the cartoonish, shallow mysteries were what was originally intended, but because of how the internet was back then and how realistic sims used to be it just became terrifying

[@athinam.4593]

The fish kid! I remember there was a case about it in the investigator career. One of my favourites too!

[@pgyws5137]

@@anotherwordly This is probably true. I always suspected that the Sims wanted to be more "family friendly" and that their main goal was to keep their game pg for current and new generations- but they failed (successfully) with some earlier games. Sims 4 is probably where the franchise has wanted to be for a long time. And its safe to assume that EA did not expect their primary fanbase to be a bunch of 20-30 year olds by the time Sims 4 released lol. That being said, as one of those 30 years olds I miss the charm of previous games and I selfishly wish they returned even though it might not be practical (by the way I HATE the newest werewolf model wtf)

[@Karmy.]

@@freval2493 same

[@bibbaaah]

I've never played the Sims 4. I watched videos to get an idea of it. But I totally agree that it's too cartoonish. I know all the games are cartoons but idk ts4 feels too.. idk... PG? to me.. ts3 is good and I genuinely like it. I really love TS2 but can't play it (easily) so ts3 is good enough. I'm glad you were able to put into words how I feel about ts4.

[@azuill1126]

The sims 2 ds feels like a cheesy creepypasta version that someone bought at a sketchy yard sale but it's the official game. Strange town DS is like the rawest example of a liminal space I've ever seen and it gives me the same vibes I get looking at like, pictures of abandoned malls

[@Luxurious_count_levi]

AGREE

[@2amantha]

Yeah same

[@boredyoutubeuser]

The owner then mysteriously disappears leaving an eerie message behind, loading up the game, the true fun begins.

[@azuill1126]

@@boredyoutubeuser the concierge has red irises and black sclera and addresses the player by name despite them just typing in a string of "aaaaaa" as their name. very spooky.

[@bob3294]

yeah, i found the game used (creepypasta material) and the environment was always very offputting, things like walking into the underground cellar and seeing meat hung up from the ceiling, the fact the game had a sanity meter and that when it emptied, you'd just pass out on the spot and wake up somewhere different. i remember the game crashing a few times under weird circumstances, like trying to dance with someone at the club. the bitcrushed portrait art was always a bit creepy too.

[@Sheeptastic]

This reminded me of my most terrifying memory of the game. I installed the expansion allowing you to manage stores/markets. When my sim worked on the lot, I saw a completely blacked out sim, T-posed and sliding towards my shop with no animation whatsoever. They'd turn back normal when entering the shop, and return to the creepy motion-less shape as they went out. I think from that point I just uninstalled the expansion and never played it again. Lmao

[@Cherry20955]

@@anajeckel literally happened to me in the game yesterday lol

[@spider13649]

Honestly thats just kinda funny

[@ReptilianTeaDrinker]

That's horrifying. Like some creepy pasta shit. LOL But also quite funny.

[@keribere244]

I can just imagine horror movie music playing in the back of your mind and feelings of dread as a shadowy t-posing figure levitates towards you

[@Gloomdrake]

@@anajeckel why is it called that?

[@aspenisthebest]

The sims 2 traumatized me when my pregnant sim randomly died and I think her abusive ex boyfriend was to blame. I saw her through the window lying on the bathroom floor and my heart stopped. I remember the image exactly and I freaked out and cried. Then I saw that little thing pop up that someone was outside our house and I see her abusive boyfriend walking out from the side of our house like he’s never been more impressed with himself. Days before this he kept harassing her and knocking over her trash can and leaving her letters with flowers at her doorstep. I’m traumatized.

[@senacario5942]

Jesus christ, was the baby his?

[@pgyws5137]

@@senacario5942 Im curious too tbh :-(

[@DuskPShermanWallaby123]

jesus..

[@scyobiempire4450]

Are we sure the game isn’t cursed?

[@aspenisthebest]

@@senacario5942 no. He was not the father!

[@rowan404]

Knowing that Bella eventually got her memories back makes me feel even sadder for her. She _knew_ that Dina had separated her from Mortimer on purpose, but there was nothing she could do about it, and she could never see her family again. Meanwhile, her son didn’t even know she was alive the whole time.

[@ARedMagicMarker]

So, in other words, Dina's a monster that needs her just desserts. XD

[@CaspianHere]

Actually her son knew well about everything , if u look further into this mystery you’ll find out that her son traveled back in time and wrote a book to inform everyone and saved her mom, that’s why the sims 3 graphics are so much like old times and bella goth is a toddler in there!!when u look at the book store in the sims 3 you’ll find alexander goth’s book is best seller also their family is whole again in the sims 4 which means alexander succeeded to save his mom :) I love this mystery

[@BelBelle468]

@@CaspianHere sims 4 is an alternate universe unconnected to sims 1-3. It doesn’t come after sims 2, so that means nothing in regards to her being saved. If anything, The back in time thing doesn’t make sense if we consider the fact Bella is dead and buried away from her family in the sims 3’s future expansion (technically she looks nothing like OG Bella but it’s apparently confirmed to be her, tho I like to HC it isn’t). Also, you mentioning graphics doesn’t make sense. If Alexander did indeed go back in time, why would he write a book and not save his mom? Why go back to when she’s a child before he was even born and wasn’t at risk of thing abducted? If this book and time travel is canon, than Bella’s dead body is also canon. She never met her family again.

[@CaspianHere]

@@BelBelle468 idk I jus like to think that way cuz I want a happy ending 🤭🤭 In my pov there are infinite possibilities and realities so each game could be one of them but my version could also exist so i choose that one lol, but I also agree with you…I never thought about it that way interesting idea where u said he could jus go back in time to save bella…But idk?!? Maybe the Time Machine was broken and sent him way more back than where he was supposed to go or maybe he had his reasons ,i guess he wanted to make sure he made everything okay from the roots where bella was still a child?personally i can’t expect someone his age to do more than writing a book he’s so young and the ones he’s facing are adults and aliens so i think the best option in his situation would be traveling back in time…i guess

[@CaspianHere]

@@BelBelle468 and you know with the time travel being involved literally annnything can be possible so really there can be infinite possibilities and theories about bella,I think you have a lot of options and stories you can choose from at that point and that’s what makes it fun =)

[@riotghoul4237]

i started playing the sims 2 just this year and "liminal" is possibly the best way to describe the game. the 2004 graphics combined with the creepy lore and glitches make it feel like i'm the protagonist of a horror arg. i have a lot of fun with the game, but it's definitely unnerving at times

[@ma.2089]

How did you start? I’ve been looking for a way to play sims 2 after Maxis gave it away for free and then stopped cuz they realized more people wanted sims 2 than sims 4

[@ghostypez]

@@ma.2089 the free ultimate collection is now considered abandonware, so you can find it on several abandonware websites.

[@ratkingwastaken]

@@ghostypez I’ve downloaded it before but I can never figure out the installation process. Is there a specific tutorial you followed or did you just figure it out?

[@ReptilianTeaDrinker]

@@ma.2089 I prefer sims 4, so I can't understand why people would want sims 2 more. I played sims 2 back when it came out and sure, it was unnerving and was enjoyable, but it doesn't hold a candle to sims 4, at least, in my opinion. lol

[@ghostypez]

@@ratkingwastaken it was a long while ago, so i don't quite remember. im pretty sure you just open the game and follow the installation after clicking on it, but if you need any extra help with it, there may be some tutorials. do you remember anything specific that confuses you when you start installing it?

[@DisappearedSock]

The eeriest part about the DS game was how if the game caught you time traveling it would yell at you and spawn a bunch of aliens around town as a punishment, which often caused so much lag that the game and music would run in slow-mo and make it extra creepy Discovering this as a kid who did a lot of traveling across timezones was legit nightmare inducing lmao

[@deedeedeef]

i remember changing the clock really far back when i was little bc i hadn't played it in a couple months and wanted to pick up where i left off, only to come back to the alien invasion screen and FREAK out bc i didn't know how to fight off the aliens fast enough, so they "killed me". i only picked it back up + finished it last month to prove to younger me that i could do it, but the way my heart/body LITERALLY went into fight or flight mode for some of the battles was INSANE. sims 2 DS was terrifying fr

[@Aldernary]

As a kid I didn’t fully get how the squirt gun worked so invasions were TERRIFYING.

[@bunisaurus]

OH maybe THAT’S why I kept having to deal with aliens. When I was a kid I was dumb and wouldn’t read the dialogue lmao

[@AnonymousMoth]

@@bunisaurus i just imagined you continuing to live your life with just the assumption that aliens were a normal part of the sims 2 DS game 💀

[@missliv.404]

playing the sims 2, as well as animal crossing wild world and having a strong attachment to some villagers but sometimes not feeling like playing for 2 months is the worst combination

[@melisacaceres8740]

Now i understand why I'm so nostalgic over sims 2. My creepiest memory is one of my Sims dying out of the blue. I made an enemies to lovers story, they were incompatible but i made them get together, marry, etc. When she was about to give birth, she started coughing desperately and died. I couldn't stop it, i could only take screenshots and that was it. I'll never forget how realistic her desperation looked.

[@aster1430]

If we don't know the order in which the Tricous died, it's possible that the two teens died first in fire, then the Grey Woman was so wary of fire that she wouldn't let anyone else cook, leading to the rest of the family dying by starvation.

[@silyknow]

What’s depressing is that in one of the sims 2 spin-offs, we find that Nervous Subject died and his girlfriend never found out about his death and she thinks he abandoned her :(

[@dominikafozo7463]

what's this spin-off??

[@haeblossoms]

@@dominikafozo7463 psp ver

[@ebonysquib9503]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :(

[@em6644]

No 😭😭😭 I just refuse to accept that, that’s too heartbreaking

[@Sylphella]

The sims 2 for psp was pretty messed up. Remember Hazel Dente?

[@MrPooleish]

"The kite will become evil and attract lightning" was a sentence I thought I'd go my whole life without hearing.

[@Jukajobs]

sounds like a quote by ben franklin

[@selenaeve9014]

@@Jukajobs phenomenal comment

[@user-Beans2017]

Fun fact: skip broke, Micheal bachelor, and nervous subject all have Dopple gangers hidden in the games files. There are also three social bunnies.

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

omg i knew nervous had a doppleganger but i never knew ab the other two? i remember playing w loki and circe and then learning that the nervous in their memories isnt the nervous in the game lmao

[@Meleedroit]

​@@iwakeupandboomimaratnervous subject's twin, confident subject

[@Roxanewolfie]

I always felt so bad for Nervous that any time I played the game I'd move him out and then do everything I could to ruin Circe and Loki's lives. I've actually been replaying the game this year, and I had both Circe and Loki get fired, Loki died from a fire in a tiny doorless room, and Circe gave birth but immediately had the baby taken away because she kept having breakdowns. Meanwhile, Nervous got together with Pascal and, many days' worth of playing later, they have their own huge house, 5 kids, are both at the top of their careers (Nervous becamse an Oceanographer!) and have adopted Big Foot into the family. Good times!

[@kikiza123]

"It's unclear why they removed seasons from the base game..." "Maybe in an alternate universe we wouldn't have to pay for snow and rain" There's your answer right there

[@yesnutches]

EA - it's not in the game

[@Olicia88]

I've heard somewhere (and I don't know if it's true) that they had problem with rain and snow. When it was raining outside it was also raining inside. They couldn't fix it in time so they decided to remove it from the base game and add it later as an expansion.

[@alfsleftnut9224]

@@Olicia88 Seems like an excuse to me.

[@Roky_2000]

@@yesnutches EA Games - challenge my wallet

[@ruminationstation4200]

@@Olicia88 and the reason they've done it with every subsequent version is definitely technically limitations and not $$$

[@CherryWisienka]

When it comes to Bella Goth - there's also this weird time machine in TS3 which can be obtained from the ambitions expansion pack i believe. While using it there is a slight chance that you'll get the notification about your sim seeing that Bella has been chosen the queen of Aliens which also confirm the theory.

[@jor4114]

Oh. Well, at least she lived out the last of her days on a positive note?

[@Vanessa_exe]

side note there is also the PSP sim2 game where she is like the third person you meet and she is running away from her haunted house.

[@deprecat6925]

Hey I think I spotted a reference from watching your vid! I think the House of Fallen Trees house may be a reference to the book "House of Leaves" that released in the year 2000. The story follows a family discovering their house itself is haunted and acting strangely, measuring an impossible length inside vs outside, creating new rooms, and eventually creating an impossibly long hallway that takes literal days to move through and goes impossibly deep, similar to the strangely deep basement under the Sims house. I can't find anyone making that connection yet and I could be wrong but seems like something they would do

[@MLmaria12]

That makes so much sense

[@Shortsonic37]

I kinda like the idea of ghosts randomly reenacting their deaths, especially if they died from something other than old age.

[@TSS4EVER]

There's the PSP game too, which actually continues Bella's story and that she tries to escape from the town. The game is extremely bonkers, I managed to complete it despite the awful loading times. Dancing cow cult, aliens, zombie bashing, and ghost maid are just scraping the surfaces of weirdness. Absolute favorite.

[@thatdamncatboy7963]

I was actually surprised the PSP port wasn't brought up, but it would probably deserve it's video. I remember getting mauled by that werwolf so fricking often before i was able to complete that storyline, lol. Also the weird military base, and that one woman in who's pool you have to find what's left of her husband to bury it. so he stops haunting houses and finally find peace. And just straight up dying soooo often and having to become a gost. So many memories connected with that version, reminds me that i have to find a good emulator to play it again

[@LightingCatxD]

The ending was a surreal banger aswell being the cherry on top. Wild frikin game.

[@Yamismol]

I remember playing it as a kid and being terrified of the ghosts in the house but really wanting to sleep in the master bedroom. Couldn’t figure out how to advance the story tho. Recently replayed and finished it and it’s such a fun game

[@omu6740]

that game scared me to FILTH as a kid. when i think of it now , i keep thinking it was a fever dream lmao

[@janiewright8089]

i was just abt to comment about the psp version!!

[@frognamedjog]

This is a really weird compliment but my guinea pig absolutely loves your videos. I think its a combo of the bright colours and your soothing voice. He loves watching cartoons with me but gets upset when there are loud noises like people fighting. I love to watch your videos with him on my chest, its a mother son bonding moment fr. Your videos are great Izzy!

[@amberisrad]

that is adorable

[@rainpooper7088]

Guinea pigs can actually see colors and some like watching screens. I used to have one who used to watch TV with my dad. Not sure if she actually saw anything that was going on, but she was certainly interested.

[@icannotbeseen]

oh god that's so wholesome

[@noranizaazmi6523]

Thats so dayum cute what the

[@TheTangMan8]

Now I want a Guinea pig even more-

[@xMaugrex]

My first sims experience was watching my dad play Sims 1, when he made our family. My mom died in a kitchen fire and became a ghost.

[@serencey]

How is your mom is she okay?

[@_Unoffical_Norahhh_]

Is your mom okay

[@xMaugrex]

@@_Unoffical_Norahhh_ she didnt die in a kitchen fire which is nice

[@_Unoffical_Norahhh_]

@@xMaugrex thank gog

[@andreacx]

My absolute favorite theory is that the military in Sims 2 time was trying to exterminate the occults and the aliens started fighting back, abducting sims and replacing them with copies. This theory is based on the fact that many sims have 2 different character files in the game. Strangetown Bella was a clone, but because the ship crashed, the cloning was not complete. This is corroborated by Lunar Lakes, a world in Sims 3 where the real Bella Goth appears. She's dead by then, and it could mean that she never returned to Earth.

[@impedimentahamartia9864]

Actually, the reason rain was removed from the Sims two base game *is* known. You can even activate the original base game rain code- they couldn't get it to stop raining inside!

[@_plg]

@xwitchbabe♡ there's a mod to enable the basegame weather, it's also heavily documented on tcrf

[@user-gj6wq8tj8s]

In Russian version Strangetown is called Kitezhgrad, which is a mystical magic city from Russian folklore. Legend says, it appears and disappears randomly, periods of it’s disappearing can last for years and decades.

[@SoewoeMoloko]

Интересно

[@dolowokureolowokure2842]

@@SoewoeMoloko Верно

[@bi-biwolf]

I wish the sims had decided to fully embrace all of the strangeness, it's the one thing that makes sims so fun but they always seem to pull back. Edit: Also I rely hope you cover the rest of the main games! Maybe even some of the side ones!

[@ntrg3248]

The reason that rain was removed from the base game was because they couldnt figure out how to get it to stop raining outside. Also btw there is a lot of misinformation on the sims wiki about corruption, the corrupted sims are 100% corrupted. But doing things like deleting sims or moving bella goth to pleasantview are not technically going to cause corruption, April Black made a long video about corruption that is very well done, I'd recommend anyone who still plays TS2 to watch it to avoid any anxiety you might have playing.

[@Abyss_Cat]

I've expirienced a creepy moment in Sims 2 when my family got a visit at 2 am. At first glance it was just a neighbour, but she was a sim from the other family that I've created and deleted (!) before. So technically she didn't exist in the game anymore, but she went to see my other sims at the night followed by the creepy music (like when the ghosts appear). As a child this shit has scared the hell out of me lol

[@kritzkrieg14]

imagine if they left something in the oven and left the lot after

[@Knux5577]

You're not supposed to delete sims in game, that's why. It doesn't delete them properly. Another bug.

[@ptolemyclarke]

It’s because deleting sims in the 2nd game corrupts them and overall it’s not worth deleting them

[@lootownica]

Just leave them in family box, or look how to delete them safely online.

[@buggibii]

the Spore effect........

[@user-wn4il9ki2h]

The messages that you got when every adult on the lot died and a social worker came to pick up the child really creeped me out. And after the child had been taken, you were left with an empty lot. It was really eerie for the 12-years old me.

[@henotic.essence]

YES! I always loaded the last save if that happened. It just creeped me out too much

[@coldslaws]

Whatre the messages?

[@past3lgh0st]

@@coldslaws all i remember was it saying "game over" in a big font and a picture of a gravestone. idk if that was sims 2 or 3 tho, i played both

[@WooffzTheCoon]

@@past3lgh0stthat is the sims 4 message I believe

[@rez2293]

My friends and I came up with so much back story for Olive. We believe that she had an extremely abusive childhood. She met Earl as a young adult who was a popular stand up guy and the two fell in love despite many believing the couple was strange because Earl could have whoever he wanted. Olive is extremely insecure about losing him and had become almost completely emotionally codependent on him. Without his input she had trouble connecting to anyone at all. Earl’s brother never really liked her and felt he was making a mistake when they got engaged. Only a few weeks before their wedding they ordered a pizza for dinner and the delivery driver happened to be an old close friend of Earl’s. An old flame in fact. They spoke for some time very very passionately and Earl ends up inviting her to the wedding. Feeling very uncomfortable about this woman with so much history and chemistry with her fiancé Olive ends up following her outside to her car and tells her not to come to the wedding and to stay away from Earl. The pizza girl tells her that unless Earl tells her not to come then she’ll be there and then makes an empty threat of speaking out against the marriage at the ceremony. Olive impulsively abducts and locks her away so this won’t happen. But she isn’t a good caretaker. The woman dies of starvation. This is Olive’s first encounter with the Reaper who shows her sympathy but tells her if she truly loved Earl she should tell them or else their love will be cursed. Fearing this curse she tells him on his wedding day. He doesn’t believe her but seeing Danielle isn’t there he realizes it’s true. He leaves her at the alter making Olive snap and she kills him. The Grim Reaper again shows her sympathy and spends as much time as he can speaking to her. Olive finds herself falling in love with him because he’s so kind to her. She kills Earl’s brother for the soul purpose of stopping Reaper from leaving and so begins their love affair. She kills her parents who abused her and then anyone else who she sees fit. All to continue her relationship with the Reaper. She kills her sister and brother in law because she saw them continue the cycle of abuse to their own child, which is why she lives with the child. She doesn’t know where her son is but when she finds him those scientists will be toast.

[@testerwulf3357]

This doesn't really work out in the game (due to the order of events) but this is extremely creative and cool!

[@rez2293]

@@testerwulf3357 couldn’t really go into the convoluted details and timeline in a KZbin comment lol, thanks tho

[@siena4235]

this is super creative and cool

[@ReneHollyDesigns]

Good story telling ♥

[@nita_a_walker2662]

So when’s the movie coming?! This is amazing!

[@Ivytheherbert]

I love that the stamina gauge in the DS game is labelled "sanity". It's just hilariously dark.

[@eveonite]

It was just so full of personality and fun quirks and you could feel that the people who worked on it were really passionate!

[@Wakenbaketv]

I have always thought that about the creators of the sims! I also love how every team member of the sims games have their profile pictures as sim versions of themselves on twitter.

[@AdamOwenBrowning]

Passion flooded into everything Maxis touched, they gave us Spore then promptly were cut off and strangulated by their parent company I'm pretty sure. The world needed more Maxis games

[@Wakenbaketv]

@@AdamOwenBrowning agreed more maxis!

[@myownbravado]

@@AdamOwenBrowning Yes! I would love more fun stuff like that instead of them milking Sims 4 into the monstrosity (derogatory) that it is

[@atmosphericentry0]

I know it's grim but "while the Grey Woman was baking a turkey, she got a phone call from a long lost cousin and accidentally forgot the turkey was in the oven. This cause her house to catch on fire, and tragically the turkey was burned. Also, the woman died" sent me

[@TheNinjaNiky]

That was actually the easiest way to start a fire, just have them cook something, but stop it halfway through. It starts a fire lol

[@unoriginalperson72]

NOOO THE OVEN!!!

[@graysonrogers-barnes6302]

My sister once left me to watch her sims for her while she went into the bedroom for... five minutes? I watched as one sim caught on fire. Then another. Then another. I yelled for her and she was so upset- I was just "What am I supposed to do!?" Because I didn't know you could pause the game!

[@starrymomo]

To be honest Bella Goth's storyline always fucked me up. I always, without doubt, made Cassandra break up with Lothario, and always ended up the Caliente's realtionship with Mortimer bcs it creeped me out too much lol Also, Sims 2 PSP was... a thing. The "Dark Secrets" in that game were absolutely effed up. Vidcund Curious, the blonde guy from the Curious family in Strangerville, sold his brother's alien son to "the Dudes in Black". Circe Beaker was mind controlled into an affair and Loki Beaker met her by "lurking in an online chatroom". Nervous died in an experiment bcs of how miserable he was, and the Beaker's then went on to kidnap some random dude, AND for some reason Nervous is buried in Bella's property, Espiritu Estate. And Buzz Grunt, another Strangerville resident, has IMPRISIONED the Smith family under the guise of "keeping them safe". Sims 2 was effed up, but Sims 2 PSP just upped the ante to never seen before levels. The only semi-normal thing the Sims 2 had was Veronaville, and even that neighbourhood was rife with betrayal and murder bcs it was based on Shakespeare's plays lmfao

[@Rhetam]

The Sims 2 was hugely ambitious for the time but with that came a lot of instability. I find it hilarious that all the pre-made neighborhoods start off corrupted already (unless you fix it with mods). So it's not a question on if creepy stuff will happen in your game but WHEN.

[@viktor4311]

I was most terrified by the burglars that spawn at night. The sudden loud sound announcing their presence plus the introduction of a scary situation that could happen in real life into my safe space got me every time. I really liked this one and would like to see you cover 1, 3, and 4!

[@woodlandpricess]

I love your Viktor pfp :)

[@viktor4311]

@@woodlandpricess Thank you!

[@ninneko19]

Man that's really bummed me out and upset me that Bella was abducted and was never reunited with her family again 😭

[@battykat7086]

I'm sooooo glad you covered this, as a fellow Sims 2 enthusiast! By the way, something worth noting about the starvation deaths that occurred among the sims buried in Olive's backyard; Olive has a small room in her home with nothing in it, so people theorize she would lock sims in there until they eventually die, hence the starvation deaths!

[@juliamassaroni928]

The Sims 2 nearly traumatized me as a kid. I made a single female sim and I had her marry an NPC, but he was super glitchy and so was their baby. One time I tried giving the baby a bath in the sink and he just. vanished. gone. His icon vanished like he was never there. And my sim stayed with her arm stretched like she was trying to hold a baby that was no longer there. I deleted that family. I stopped playing The Sims.

[@Neon99]

Wow

[@Euphlor]

Omg! haha.

[@holocoffin]

The hours I spent playing the Sims 2. So much of my teen life was spent on that game. You already know you're a fashion icon but this look is next level!!

[@viperv6768]

Not the point of the video, but I truly love Sims Medieval. Wish more people know about and love it like I do. So much charm and humor!

[@PinkuMonsuta]

The Sims 2 for the PSP was an excellent game for macabre and weird lore, and it was incredibly creepy playing it as a young teen at 2am! I'm unsure how canon it is considered, but it is incredibly story-driven, and builds on the Sims lore really well. It starts off with encountering a lost and confused Bella Goth at a gas station in the middle of nowhere, and dives right into a story about ghosts, zombies and aliens that you have to figure out through mini-games and missions. It even lets you know the fate of Nervous Subject!

[@Bugsmoth]

For the Bella Goth lore, I like to think that the Lunar Lakes Bella is the real one, while the Strangetown Bella is a fake/imposter (or perhaps clone?) sent to take her place, hence the slightly different facial features.

[@Azzzzi]

Actually, it was confirmed they are the same person, but for some reason the team wasn't able to make her look exactly like Pleasantview Bella. (srry for my bad english 😭)

[@CrazyAlienLady051]

Also I believe there’s a child version of Bella Goth in the sims 3. In SimCity 4, I had Bella Goth as a townie in my city and if you had a graveyard placed in your city, there would be notifications about Bella hanging out in the graveyard and seeing ghost.

[@rubiesncreme]

@@CrazyAlienLady051 There is, because 3 is a prequel. Which had some dark lore of its own - elderly love-hating townie Agnes Crumplebottom from 2 had a really tragic life, it turns out. (Hint: there's a nursery in her younger self's home, furnished but obviously never used.)

[@xgirly]

@@Azzzzi exactly, and the face she has in pleasantview is the second face template on the cas, so her face was generated by the game for some reason.

[@Tevi_L7151]

@@rubiesncreme yes it's a prequel but it looks like all the worlds have a different timeline, Lunar Lakes is just a future world, or Caliente sisters in Barnacle Bay appear to have moved from Pleasantview. Well, that's how it looks to me

[@maxkalbach2438]

A friend of mine actually worked on the Sims 4, and he has a great story about a horrifying bug that existed for a while that he helped fix: In certain cases, a female sim with a male imaginary friend could get pregnant from the imaginary friend. As the pregnancy progressed, the game would become more and more corrupt with behaviors breaking down, textures going all freaky, and eventually the sky just going black. When it was time for the sim to give birth to the half-imaginary baby, the whole game would basically brick, corrupting beyond repair. It's a hell of a thing, it makes me imagine the Sims universe as a cosmic horror setting.

[@yuyukit]

sounds like a nice idea for a horror movie lmao

[@JT_From_Outer_Space]

are you sure this isn't about the sims 3? because i vividly remember imaginary friends existing in sims 3 but i don't think they've been implemented into sims 4 at any point

[@emilyfisher7060]

@@JT_From_Outer_Space I thought the same

[@maxkalbach2438]

@@JT_From_Outer_Space Could be Sims 3, mostly because Sims 4 doesn't have... a lot of things. I'll have to ask him and double check.

[@mywifeisdead4826]

@@yuyukit It exists lmao, It's called rosemary's baby

[@calliesdandelions]

Sims 3 also had this self-cloning thing. Man, was it scary to just meet YOURSELF in town 😭😂

[@glasshorse6893]

ngl I kinda like the idea that olive is meant to be a undertaker. a bunch of people in her "yard" that appears to be just a cemetery, creepily just sitting in her yard like she's watching the graves. the bio is probably a reference to how in horror media its rumored that undertakers/ grave diggers/ coroners... heavily influenced the people to come to rest in the cemetery, lets say. though they're usually massive walking red herrings and just are kinda creepy but ultimately harmless people who happen to work around bodies.

[@lethargicAilurophile]

When I was 8 years old I saved up my allowance for months and months to be able to purchase the Sims 2 and when I had finally saved up after almost a full year I ran out to the store to buy it, immediately opened everything and put it in my PC.... Turns out I had bought the Mac version and bc I had already opened it they wouldn't take it back. I learned a very valuable lesson that day and had my heart broken but when I was finally able to get it it made the experience so rewarding. Thank you for the nostalgia trip 💚

[@PartnershipsForYou]

Jesus that sucks.

[@CaretakerWanted]

Did you buy the game at Best Buy? They had a stupid rule like that for a while when it came to refunds.

[@Zullala]

I have no idea how much the Sims cost when it first released... Heck I still don't know how much it costs today. But I'm going to go ahead and just say it was $60 (it was probably cheaper than that)... This means you got like a $1.20 a week for allowance! That's a struggle to save up! Anyway that's heartbreaking that you purchased the wrong game God!!!! I'm frustrated for you!

[@lethargicAilurophile]

Y'all get ready for this... I bought it at the apple store 😔 I had no concept of different computer systems and idk if my parents did or they just wanted to see me struggle.... I did not get a lot for allowance and YES IT WAS CLOSE TO 60$ ! Still a great game though lots of fun memories

[@Zullala]

@@lethargicAilurophile I'm so glad you were eventually able to get it!

[@JellyJessYT]

I have too many memories of the Sims 2 crashing *JUST BEFORE* something crazy was about to happen lol

[@acornmaybe]

didn't expect to see you here jess!

[@Still_goblin_breath]

Hi Jess!

[@user-Beans2017]

I got your comment too the 680 likes! =3

[@Nanitamochi]

The sims 2 is my favorite sims series from my childhood. What I love about these mysteries is that it creates that feeling of realism, think about it, every neighborhood has those type of stories and gossip about other weird neighbors so this game created that old neighborhood vibe where every family has stories and mysteries that some speculate about

[@MusicaKenith]

A little bit of fan trivia about me that nobody asked about: I have no idea what Izzzy's videos titles are, I recognize them in my mind by the makeup she uses

[@14Hecate]

I believe that the House of Fallen Trees may be a reference to the book "House of Leaves", which was published in 2000, 4 years prior to the release of Sims 2. The book essentially documents how a family moves into a seemingly normal house, but upon further inspection notes how the interior dimensions are larger than the exterior dimensions, and things just get more uncanny from there. I don't want to say more, as it is a great book, but it seems like a possibility that someone at Maxis was possibly inspired by "House of Leaves".

[@timmywaye4302]

Now I really want to see a sims mod that makes your house change like in House of Leaves. That would be so cool and scary lol

[@rubycosmo6279]

This could not have come out at a more perfect time. I literally JUST *illegally* downloaded the Sims 2 Ultimate Edition this week and have been playing nonstop.

[@rubycosmo6279]

I committed a crime for this game! I am a criminal!!!

[@czbaterka]

Sims 2 is abandonware so don't worry ✨

[@Nothing4687]

I'm so proud of this community

[@rachaelgreen1812]

🤫 we don't talk about emulators

[@Crystre]

Not asking for a link or anything, but do you have a website name? 👀

[@frozensoupy]

by the mere mention of sims castaway a lost memory has been unlocked

[@TheOnlyHBIC]

Bella’s story is so sad like can she even get justice?

[@_Biscuitbear]

Maybe in the Sims 5

[@lunacouer]

Maybe that's why they made Sims 4 an "alternate timeline"...so Bella could have the happy family life she always deserved.... Nah, just kidding. There's no lore in the Sims 4. But I'll take being able to give her the happy life she was denied for 10 years.

[@Johnny_Three-hats]

No one's gonna mention that the best way to maintain your Sims' sanity in Sims 2 DS was to go into the basement and punch a side of beef? Beating the meat? Well, I certainly will, and I beat that meat hard and often after trips into the desert. I played a ton of Sims 2 DS and went back and 100% completed it not too long ago. You could wander out farther than you were supposed to in the desert and it was just a constant sandstorm with a lunar lander somewhere. Never liked staying out there for long. Really, the eeriest thing for me is kinda just the fact that after you beat the campaign, the game just kind of stops. You can still check hotel guests in and out, make money, improve things, but you'll run out of new stuff to put in pretty fast. At that point, it really does feel like purgatory, with no way forward or out. Everyone just kind of wanders around in a personality-free state, checking in and out of your hotel with no rhyme or reason.

[@em-lq3ew]

If you go to a room in a saloon and walk into the corner (I can't remember specifics cos it's been over 10 years now) you descend into the void and there's no way out lmao that was a favourite of mine

[@TheVictorianKMedia]

@@em-lq3ew I remember this lol I want to say it was in Dusty's room, behind a trunk. All the bugs made that game even more lovable and weird imo

[@moogleydoot]

i can't believe i never knew the sims had lore, i love that there's an interview with bella goth on the sims website 😭

[@AluraRosenbaumDizzEwok]

👋

[@LikaLaruku]

In every Sims game, I'd destroy all of the houses & get rid of the premade families, so I never knew about the lore either.

[@AJ-mc6ro]

The DS game was definitely a weird experience. I wanted a sims game but only had a DS so I didn’t know that it was any different. It was unsettling, the desert would slowly kill you and we had to collect radioactive rods to keep the electricity on, there was a lucrative gambling game in the casino, and we talked to a literal mummy for one quest. I finally figured out when in the story there was a break between the ‘villains’ and I could pretend that I lived in the penthouse 😂 Yeah, it was kind of a concerning game for kids but I was addicted to it! Rivaled only by nintendendogs and animal crossing wild world!

[@kyakuhagi]

When I was a kid playing Sims 2, I had this creepy moment where my 2 Sims were asleep and dreaming and suddenly both Sims had this statue of a woman with no arms (I forget the name) in their dream bubble at the exact same moment, but crossed through. The bubble also did not go away immediately and when I then looked through the property, the statue was next to the house, although I could swear that I have never placed there.

[@asoupofprunes3895]

When I was little and playing Sims 2 DS, I just didn’t question the alien parts thing. Like, you’d go out in the desert with your metal detector, find mummified aliens, go into the hotel basement to remove their organs in a mini game, and then you sold them. I never gave it a second thought, but hearing it out loud sounded really bad 😬

[@mariannazanforlin]

Can we just talk about their make-up??? They put so much effort in it in each video, and it's so clean and smooth! I love it each time! ❤️🤍🤎💚🧡💛💜💙🖤

[@votoriancarvalho7290]

Terrible

[@TRAMP-oline]

@@votoriancarvalho7290 skill issue

[@votoriancarvalho7290]

@@TRAMP-oline it’s creative, but it kinda … yeah

[@FirstnameLastname-zq8oy]

Has Izzy said that she identifies as non-binary or something? I haven’t seen her say anything like that so I’m just curious why you’re using they/them pronouns for her lol

[@TPNsBiggestFan]

@@FirstnameLastname-zq8oy i dont remember exactly but i think their pronouns are they/she? but she uses multiple pronouns so

[@kamillentee4044]

There were so many things about sims that really creeped me out as a child 😂 But one of the creepiest things definitely happened in a sims mobile game I played. As I wanted to have a nice house from the beginning I let my sim move in with a sim that already lived in a big house in the neighbourhood. I don’t remember everything but while playing I started to notice that this was some kind of Hannibal Lecter murder house with a hidden dining room 😅

[@strangextown]

Dude you don’t even know how happy this made me. I’m literally obsessed with the sims 2, I’ve been playing it almost daily for nearly 10 years and nothing has ever brought me as much joy as this lovely game. It’s truly the best in the series (in my eyes at least!) and I’m beyond excited to see you cover it in your video! I’m also glad it’s getting more mainstream attention lately, we’ve gained so many new players in the fandom. ❤️ Let’s NEVER allow this game to die!

[@disjectamembruh4033]

are u on tumblr perhaps?

[@fenya3207]

IT WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITE SIMS GAMES I GOT SO HYPER WHEN I SAW THAT IZZY POSTED A VIDEO ABOUT IT!!

[@nvexe8822]

Maybe she fell in love with the reaper by meeting him when that pizza girl died (not her fault) so then she started killing people to see him and then she had a kid with him?

[@paleposter]

Ah, Thanos

[@Peppered_Spores]

@@paleposter hahahahhahhaa perfect

[@_Biscuitbear]

Okay but how did a pizza girl die of starvation?

[@steacyl8248]

@@_Biscuitbear like in the game when you build a wall around someone or just keep them stuck inside your house and don't give them any food

[@ReneHollyDesigns]

@@_Biscuitbear Olive had a back room in her house off the kitchen with nothing in it. I always figured she locked her in there.

[@MoskHotel]

9:47 Ok, THAT is just beyond terrifying. I’d hate it if a vampire in a future sims game can do that.

[@cet1r1z1ne]

GURL the DS game is something I still come back to even to this day. I love everything about it. I still hear the voice clips rattling around in my head. I know this is way too late, but if anybody else reading the comments wants to hear about weird stuff in the game here's a little list - Your stamina bar is called "sanity". When you are in the desert, your sanity constantly ticks down. If it reaches zero, you get abducted by aliens. They beam you back down into the town square and you have to waddle very slowly until you can raise your sanity again. I accidentally clipped through the ground in the desert somehow and had to wait for the aliens to save me, once. If you raise your relationship with the characters, they will eventually tell you their "secret". Mama Hogg is as irradiated as she is busty. Yet another unrealistic standard for women. The DS clock directly translates to the in-game time. If you change the clock to go back in time, there will be a large-scale alien invasion you have to deal with and you will be admonished by the concierge who somehow knows that it is your fault. If you can find a video, I highly recommend you watch what the alien invasions look and sound like. My child self was shitting at 300 miles per hour when I heard the music and saw the aliens running at me. PLEASE look at the unlockable concept art. The ghost is by far one of my favorite reaction images. Such an emotion. There is a basement squatch that you should feed daily. You have to literally excavate the entrance to his room. I have no idea how he survived and his only company is that fortune-telling robot, whose fortunes have a suspiciously similar appearance to the mysterious notes you are given at the beginning of the story. Every so often, you have to vacuum up mice by the dozen to appease your guests.

[@parrot998]

One thing of note, The Sims 2 is MEANT to have creepy content. It was very much deliberate. The social bunny for example is supposed to be creepy, not lovable as you suggest. It wasn't supposed to be this unchallenging family friendly game. It actually utilized and earned it's rating and was deliberately trying to make you feel, whether it be through horror, humor, accomplishment, or mild sadness. Same with 1. The Sims 3 and 4 were significantly sanitized and had all of the surreal experimentalism sapped out of them, and it really sucks since it ruins both the vibe and the comedy (which was mostly dark comedy in the first two).

[@jeffwoods4311]

At least sims 3 is fun to play (until you run into intense lag) unlike sims 4 that gets boring after a short amount of time.

[@parrot998]

@@jeffwoods4311 Speak for yourself. I find the sims 3 a very unfun mess.

[@CriticalClone]

@@parrot998 Same

[@jeffwoods4311]

@@parrot998 The gameplay itself is fun and a lot better than 4 before I got sims 2 I would play 3 all day. But the lag and bugginess is what makes it unplayable.

[@parrot998]

@@jeffwoods4311 This is gonna be a bit long, but it needs to be said. The gameplay of 3 is shallow. Which severely undercut my enjoyment. There is soooo much that was cut from the simulation that makes sims feel real and relatable and ironically unique from 2. The Sims 1 and 2 were made by geeks who wanted to simulate life and people the best they could within their tech and budget, meanwhile 3 was headed up by a guy who was more interested in casual RPGs, and as much as that kind of stuff can compliment game simulation, it cannot replace it. Sims in 2 have memories. It isn't just some random icons or a scrapbook like in 3. Events carry tokens (think of them like hidden semipermanent moodlets) that affect their autonomy, wants, and fears looong afterwards.There is background gossip. There is all kinds of hidden info in fact that affect sim AI. And that is just one facet of the simulation. Interests, fears, reputation, social class, the carefully researched personality points system, independant relationship status (unrequited love, a situation where one person thinks they are friends with another but the other person hates their guts, etc) were all just cut from the game, and what did they replace it all with? Traits. Most of which have negligable affect on AI, and the ones that do, read off like how a bad writer makes fictional characters. Just random surface characteristics which really only lend themselves to creating stereotypes and caracatures with nothing else going on underneath. And the sad part is, traits could be a great compliment to these other aspects. One of the limits of 1 and 2 is you couldn't really make an evil sim, or a mentally unstable sim... But they just don't work as a replacement. They are too shallow. I could go on forever about how much The Sims 3 stripped and how little it has going on within it. The only kind of clever thing is it is calculating AI of an entire town, but they absolutely threw the baby out with the bathwater to make that work, and 1. it still doesn't really work well, and 2. story progression was a bad idea to begin with. It severely limits playstyles. If you want to play any way other than a single family legacy per save, tough! If you try to make another family not only will they age without you, but they will also just randomly do crap, get married to randos, have kids, maybe even just move out of town! There are sooooo many other things about 3 that severely undercut it's quality as a sims game. 3 is just as dull, shallow, and lifeless as 4. In some ways moreso. (esp when you account for how easily malleable 4 is, and how heavily modded it can be.) You simply don't notice because the game does everything in it's power to distract you with a bajillion things to do. But the content is illusory. Most of it can be burned through in like an hour, and then you just move on to the next random shallow bit of content. It's not the sims... it's do random crap the game. And some of that stuff is fun in isolation, but it isn't The Sims, and I play The Sims to play The Sims... To simulate people, and families, and communities with an overarching surreal aspect. Not to play some casual point and click rpg with simulation elements... Maybe that's the itch some people want scratched, or just assume that's the point due to being introduced with 3, but it's not what The Sims was ever meant to be. I also think 3 fails as a game in it's own merits too, but this post is too long as is...

[@ollie_3948]

There is honestly something very sad about the environmental storytelling told in that one sim in the sims 3 who’s description says her husband died, and there’s an empty room in her new house that just has a crib. Like they were gonna have a kid ;-; Edit: Agnes crumplebottom in the sims 3. This is why she hates romance, bc she had hers stolen from her

[@jasmine7299]

yess i wish they did that more environmental storytelling…it’s so fun to play the npcs because of their backstories but now the sims lacks substance

[@Idkwhattonamemyself545]

@@jasmine7299 yep:( and making your own custom backstories for your townies is fun and all, since you have control over every aspect, but then it’s not a surprise anymore. There’s no mysteries, dark secrets, or scandals to uncover because you created everything therefore you know everything. There’s no “OMG SHE HAD A BABY WITH THE LIBRARIAN AND THEN KILLED HER HUSBAND TO COVER UP!” moments. You can’t even really do stuff like that in the Sims 4 anyways because the game is so lackluster. I miss the old Sims games 😭

[@mrdirtylobster1613]

The Sims 2 will forever be my favourite game. It was something about the atmosphere and the overall vibe of it. I will always remember the fun times I had creating Alien families and getting abducted from the telescope. Thank you for reminding me

[@ebonysquib9503]

the sims 2 was definitely something special. even now i find myself wanting to play it again. it just has something special about it that you don't find in the other main sims games. i remember absolutely hating the social worker for taking away my kids cuz i didnt make them do their homework cuz it was stressing them out so badly. the noise when the social worker appears elicits immense fear and rage in me to this day. i also loved the storylines the premade houses and towns had; something that just isn't really in the other main sims games (to my knowledge)

[@Chamomileable]

"He abducted their father and impregnated him." Now that's a headline sentence if I've ever heard one.

[@stardusst]

as an avid sims 2 player i'm genuinely surprised you made this video! it's such a shame that ea no longer sells the game or even gives it for free.

[@CommanderWiggins]

Literally the only ways to play it is to buy a used copy or pirate it. And then you usually have to play around with different fan made patches and fixes to even get it to run on modern computers.

[@Mitsaya]

EA are so incredibly themselves about both TS2 and 3. I recently had to transfer all of my TS3 games to a new account and their support told me that some expansions probably wouldn't be transferred, but that their codes would still be unusable afterwards, and when I asked why they just told me that they were EOL and that that was normal and non-fixable. So that's a bunch of money lost because EA still want to gate keep a game they barely even sell anymore.

[@towelie1313]

I literally just finished playing TS2 and then I saw this video. Never clicked on anything faster in my life lmao

[@onlyfrog]

my guess is: they don't wanna adjust the older games to make them less buggy, even ts3, because they know that if they sold ts2 & ts3 without the bugs, ts4 would lose a tremendous amount of players. it already happens tbh, even with the older games being difficult to play

[@crab2195]

@@CommanderWiggins the only place EA still sells the sims 2 is the sims 2 super collection on the app store. not sure why they’re able to sell it there and not on other platforms but at least its something

[@aerosyourhaze]

Your videos have convinced me to buy this game plus five expansion packs. I regret nothing.

[@yvltc]

To TS2's credit: most of the supposed corruption is just hearsay and speculation, it has now been shown that the game is much more robust than previously believed. Moving Sims and lots between neighbourhoods, deleting Sims, deleting tombstones, etc doesn't cause corruption. It might bloat your neighbourhood, but that's it (unless you're playing the base game, you'll be fine). Check the Sims wiki for the updated corruption info we have.

[@JohnSmith-nh2te]

A series where you go over the dark little corners of the Sims or other games that shouldn’t have those creepy parts would be the best thing ever

[@MegaTwitchers]

that would be so good

[@HeyImFaye]

The Sims Castaway!! Gosh I loved that game, I remember I got it used from GameStop for my birthday! I was so excited to start up my wii and play it, and I always loved looking through the manuals of every game because I was a strange (and granted, undiagnosed autistic) kid. While scouring through the manual, a folded up piece of paper fell out! It was a hand-written list of cheats for the game! It was one of the coolest things ever, like finding a little secret note in a library book hehe :3

[@GOOSEFLAVORED]

10:39 so glad izzy decided to have a clip of a cat absolutely vomiting its guts out accompany their narration. exactly what i needed to see

[@spookysugar]

If you follow up with Sims 3, imo you have to look into 2 pre-made sims: Katarina Stewart from Midnight Hollow and Anna-Liza Riddle from Twinbrook. Katarina is described as a doll obsessed young woman, who "underwent plastic surgery in order to resemble her beloved doll, resulting in an almost expressionless face". Her only relationships are 2 npc (mailwoman and baby sitter) and a low-level relationship/romantic interest with a toy collector pre-made sim called Jack Limb. In her household description, it's explained she's pursuing him due to his hobbie as "she thinks only a toy collector like him could appreciate her perfect upkeep of a doll". Anna-Liza is a retired "nosy" old writer of thrillers and blogger. Her household description brings up the fact that she "has a taste for the increasingly deadly, unhealthy and gloomy things in life", while her own biography states that she "has left some of her own personal mysteries unanswered". She lives alone in a huge house meant for several people, including children. In her cross-shapped attic, there's only a telescope to spy on her neighbors, and a single urn belonging to a woman named Di. L. Emma Riddle. It might just be a nod to murder mystery writter Aghata Christie, but there's something creepy with playing that household the first time, expecting smiling grandma only to discover the urn in the attic

[@viperneongaming4314]

I remember reading somewhere that person created a family in The Sims, threw the son in the basement, took away the stairs out of the basement, made him practice art, sold the art which became expensive, just consistently use that basement child as a cash cow. The family didn't have to get jobs. Just live on the lap of luxury thanks to the basement dwelling mutant son.

[@sand__witch]

Basement painter goblin my beloved

[@kermit5760]

Are you talking about callmekevin?

[@viclenny3872]

was this ambiguous amphibian?

[@ignoreallmycommentsandreplies]

Fighting the urge to make a story similar to this

[@montanarose4622]

Average Irish KZbinr experience

[@BennyLlama39]

Izzzyzzz: "And watch haplessly as their kitchen catches fire for the fourth time in a row." Me: Just like any GrayStillPlays Sims video. 😀

[@esmelilylewis]

The sims 2 on DS was my childhood game and i still consider it one of the best games i’ve ever played. I think the creepy ambience is sort of comforting in a weird way?!

[@StriderOwO]

Never in my life did I think I would hear about a canonical plot involving murdering the mayor and hiding his body in a Sims game but I guess the world is truly stranger than you would ever think.