The Mystery Of STALAGGH

[@TheTundraTerror]

If reddit and Twitter had a soundtrack.

[@ramseydoon8277]

If reddit and twitter had a soundtrack it would be yackety-sax or the circus song.

[@gleppy163]

More like if my head had a soundtrack

[@KalaschniKlown]

@@ramseydoon8277it would be all three simultaneously

[@jedwalker4543]

This is one of those albums that really thrived in the early internet days. Before the constant skepticism and fact checking.

[@guitarplayer1495]

honestly...them allowing those mental patients to scream at the top of their lungs must've been pretty therapeutic.

[@dpclerks09]

Dino also did this with "The Lung" interlude. Feels exploitative on some level, incontrovertibly...

[@777morningstar6]

Or not

[@guitarplayer1495]

@@dpclerks09 definitely exploitive especially how in the 2nd interview they said they were making making a classical piece essentially lying their way in, they've probably barely made any money aswell , i dunno

[@patrickbertlein4626]

@@dpclerks09 Sure. Also, know your audience. Not your show don't watch.

[@ferminf3r139]

theres no way stalaggh isnt an edgy 15 year old screaming at a $2 microphone

[@capam15]

Well yeah, but mentally abused

[@thelegendofner0]

Exactly, or just the noises of ordinary Reddit users

[@LANDEN_BERGER]

All of these "most disturbing music ever" videos are exactly the same, the music is just a shitty noise project

[@patrickbertlein4626]

No.

[@patrickbertlein4626]

@@LANDEN_BERGER No.

[@seanrosenau2088]

A series of videos on different metal music urban legends would be awesome. Nattramn's Pig Hooves and all that.

[@winglessfairy564]

I was gonna comment that idea myself plsss get this done 👏🏼👏🏼

[@AndrewMarloweTV]

I actually made one on my channel about Silencer you might enjoy. KZbin buried it but it turned out good

[@Joelvete6]

People still believe that he chopped off his hands? 😂 There's an interview with Kvarforth recently where he talks about him, also in the book "Black metal evolution of the cult" there's an interview with Casado who was the main guy behind Silencer, and from what they said the stuff going around in the internet is mostly BS.

[@jusko2565]

​@@AndrewMarloweTVthat was a good video. The algorithm really does suck.

[@AndrewMarloweTV]

@jusko2565 much appreciated man. Yea its hit or miss

[@axrippingmaniak]

Creepypasta: The Musical

[@patrykapiezo1650]

This video got randomly recommended to me even though i've never heard of stalaggh before. In the beginning you're talking about Stalaggh recording most extreme album and i was like "yeah i don't think they can beat the one album i've heard a long time ago, gulaggh - vorkuta". I've started googling. It's the same guys.

[@bernardanderson1045]

Thanks for including the thumbnail to my video in your video, your channel helped me discover albums I would have never discovered otherwise.

[@The_Oak_Boat]

I don't think that they ever got permission to record all the patients mainly because a good mental institution would never let victims of SA or kids get recorded.

[@kevingillis1144]

And yes they would

[@Joelvete6]

​@user-br5wv6fr8k that's what I thought lol. The Netherlands is a peculiar place.

[@JustAnotherHeavyMetalManiac]

Why would children who are victims of SA be held at a facility used to determine whether criminals are psychologically responsible for their crimes? Also, prostitution is legal in the Netherlands, so why would they be here as well? There’s no way the lore behind this group or person is real.

[@The_Oak_Boat]

@@JustAnotherHeavyMetalManiac it was just a hunch that the petter ban facility was used, it could have been one where all mentally ill patients went instead of just accused ppl

[@Roy-ts9nv]

"Good" being the operative word here. Mental institutions are absolutely rife with abuse towards patients. That's not to say I believe Stalaggh's backstory is real, it's harder to cover up abuse when you leave a trail of evidence.

[@autystycznybudda5012]

I'm 90% sure its Maurice de Jong's 999th side project lol

[@sVieira151]

Mauriiiiiiice

[@enri_mucca]

You meant his 666th side project

[@Nathrakus]

Yeah, that was my first thought, too.

[@dodenmanniskan8846]

Along with Déhà and those dudes from Planet AIDS?

[@lildricce.2786]

@@sVieira151

[@rixbyte7438]

I love how the cover of one of their albums looks like Joe Biden

[@gavin8489]

Lmaoo it does! Dude in the cover seems more clear headed though.

[@KantenHammer]

Fwiw, i talked to Jeroen von Valkenburg a few years ago when i bought prints of the stallagh albumcovers. I also got an original painting of an alternate version of a cover. If you remember the squiggly/disturbed faces on some of the albumcover-versions, those were apparently made by a friend of jeroen who himself permanently lives in a psych ward and also did vocals for the pure misanthropia album. Fascinating project for sure, love your stuff dude.

[@dante_dagger]

The moment I saw the title, I said “now we’re talking”. Great work man

[@enri_mucca]

I have to be honest, Wyatt: when I first saw this video I thought: "Ugh, not another video talking about spooky creepypastas", but I really appreciated how you treated the subject matter, and you kind of made me curious to check out a project I've always avoided (at the beginning because it was scary, and then, when I got more used to certain sounds, because it looked like a novelty to me). I know that extreme metal and noise/industrial have a lot of disturbing undertones and that these aspects are the first things brought up in every conversation ("do you know the Inner Circle? Sataaanic", "Hamburger Lady by Throbbing Gristle is sooo disturbing"), but I think they tend to get old very quickly, and, if someone becomes a fan of these genres, it is mainly because of the music. I wish people would talk more about music and touch the creepy/disturbing subjects with a more objective eye: no more halloween videos about "the scariest and evilest genre in the world", please...

[@cocogus]

I pissed my pants

[@nathancerberus9270]

Hell yeah

[@Sairauspoissaolo]

I pantsed my piss

[@Terminal_Assault]

I came

[@jacksearch1114]

That's epic

[@Thabba76]

thank god

[@tracyharms3548]

“We’re so extreme” is an ever-popular promotional idea. Indeed, it has drawn together many musicians into groups and projects. Thanks for poking at this one. I’m treating it as fake but you’re totally correct that “this is a normal thing to come across” given the attitudes and socially marginal patterns of noise musicians et al.

[@AndrewMarloweTV]

Fascinating video. Reminds me a lot of the mystic and mystery behind Silencer. Most likely fake but makes for a great mystery behind a band

[@Haluhabba]

Solid video. I like that you give your opinions on the subject, and not just present the same stuff every other video has to say about the project

[@LoderryPlaysPVP]

Another great video as always Wyatt. I think another good contender for a video would be Silencer and Nattramn

[@readonly999]

Wyatt is on point and his vids have a 2MP cam in a bedroom early 00s aesthetic. Keep it up, man!

[@TheNeverEndingVoid]

I've been pretty involved with this project for many years now and glad to see you doing a video about this. As for people disregarding this group as "fake" or "not true" I can guarantee you that they are far from fake. The kid that Wyatt mentioned as having killed his mother was due to the fact that his uncle was molesting him and his mother being fully aware of it did nothing. He snapped when he was 16 and led to the event mentioned. He was eventually released, but died in a car accident around the age of 32. Whether it was an accident or suicide isnt known. As for Osman Arabi he did the remixes for the Nihilistik Terror CD and made a noise layer on Projekt Misanthropia. He was never a member. He also had a blog where he mentioned his involvement which likely started the rumors of him being a member. To sum it up he made remixes of existing material, and 1 layer of noise on one album which you can't differentiate or even say "oh that's his". Thats all I'll share for now as their is so much to type and its late here. Cheers.

[@KL_Stereo]

Pure piss, Bruder

[@WILD__THINGS]

Any evidence for your guarantee?

[@TheNeverEndingVoid]

@@WILD__THINGS I would provide photos, and other information but I have been asked not too unfortunately. I can see how that is a cop out answer, but I can say that I own a piece of art made by the patient in the video thumbnail. He also made the same piece of art featured in the Projekt Nihil Digipak CD. Its a representation of how he feels/felt in society ( he unfortunately committed suicide in 2006 via hanging ). The figure you see with his strings cut and looking down is him and is how he viewed himself. Unable to speak his mind and unable to truly express himself. I do know tha patients name, but have been asked to not share it for privacy reasons. Ill try to answer questions as best I can with as much information as I can, but know its tough as members have explicitly stated not to share certain things in the spirit of "anonymity".

[@joepearce5096]

source: dude trust me

[@TheNeverEndingVoid]

@@joepearce5096 thats all I can truly ask for

[@brainspasm1008]

I never actually thought that none of this story behind Stalaggh was real, it always sounded like it was some sort of a made up backstory to give the band a sort of lore. I'm not at all against it and i think its a pretty neat thing to have to have some sort of predetermined feel and expectancy of what's about to come. Great video though, your gave a fantastic down to earth view of the entire thing!

[@GoonToThrones]

I just got got the Reek and Xeno picture disc split! Great vid as always!

[@cebede6912]

they will kidnap you for the next album stallagh wyattxhim collab

[@Ghoulstille]

I drank too much water and now I can't move.

[@KHALI_SEAWEED]

happens to the best of us

[@ghosterdude]

just keep calm and piss

[@DITDdsbm]

Perfect video like always

[@stabaath1]

Love your vids Wyatt

[@cdizzy42069]

Great vid as always dude, love the channel

[@Geo-Real]

Wyatt is a treasure for humanity and the metal community around the world.

[@curtisgeist6122]

This and the mystery of chess boxing are modern music’s biggest question marks

[@HumanTimeCapsule]

The Wu Tang track?

[@andretyroneii941]

MY HIP HOP WILL ROCK AND SHOCK THE NATION

[@diabeticmonkey]

Gotta get up and be somebody!

[@ilikethebandnirvana88]

I heard that they used the abandoned church to record the screams originally, but the menta institution denied. But they said that they would use the church as "scream therapy" and the institution allowed it. That's what I heard but I'm not sure if it's true or not

[@KR-mm4el]

love the debut dalek album presented in the background 😊

[@justsomejusstsome8994]

Dalek is one of the best HH groups ever

[@riffcrypt8438]

@@justsomejusstsome8994 One of the best WHAT??? Oh! Oh. Hip hop. Right.

[@justsomejusstsome8994]

@@riffcrypt8438 What else is HH?

[@riffcrypt8438]

@@justsomejusstsome8994 I'm not taking this bait lmao

[@justsomejusstsome8994]

@@riffcrypt8438 Im not fucking with you I genuinely wanna know lol

[@sanavthecardist1666]

This guy is fuckin UNDERATED love your videos bro

[@somekindofbox264]

I was too distracted by those sick grooves in the background in your video to listen to a word you said.

[@thedopaminestop2355]

The fact that anybody ever believed any of the BS behind bands like Stalaggh and Silencer blows my fucking mind

[@oxitape1563]

Stalaggh sounds like what Christians in the 80s thought heavy metal sounded like lmao.

[@Rewwgh]

What about doing La Torture des Tenebres next?

[@patrickbertlein4626]

This is a new one for me and I have seen her perform at least once. She did an installation piece at an art museum in Seattle and I am pretty sure played a coffee shop in Olympia once.

[@bobsbrain397]

Totally forgot about this project, thanks for researching and sharing💖🖤🖤

[@Svvithred]

I have the Gulaggh album on CD, I've had it for years now and I love listening to the weird, wonderful and abnormal, which is down to being autistic and loving music, but this was too much for me!

[@GlobalAutophagia]

I just love every vid about this project. I just love the whole mysticism surrounding this band, and the concept as well, as edgy as it may be. Have heard several times about the band member getting strangled on PT, but haven't been able to identify it in the record. How about doing some videos on Profanatica, Bestial Warlust/Corpse Molestation, Demoncy and Blasphemophagher?.

[@hbc431]

You should do a video on the crazy parts of Power Electronics that you briefly touched on in the video

[@hypnovertigo7200]

He did

[@hbc431]

​@@hypnovertigo7200 reread my edited comment

[@altnap]

High asf listening to a guy rant about mental patients lol 😭

[@wyattxhim]

I appreciate you being overly honest here .

[@DesolateSolitude]

Interesting. Good video.

[@florisaartsen6050]

As someone from the Netherlands, who used to do a lot of urbexing i can say that a lot of mental asylums have been closed down over the years, and usually all tracks of those asylums get wiped really quickly, and buildings get demolished in an instant. And say that this was all true, i think your theory might be really strong, but It’s hard for me to believe that a big institution like that was used to record this. In the past we had a bunch of smaller ones near prisons (which also have been closed and demolished) and i think if this would have been recorded in the early 1990ts/2000 I think that institution might be gone now.

[@florisaartsen6050]

Stalaggh is still a big mystery in the black metal scene here in the Netherlands with no one really knowing who did it and the bands here are quite close to their fanbase but nobody knows who it was and the people that claimed to have worked/been close with them never share anything.

[@aronjanssonnordberg307]

I listened to the trilogy, and Projekt Misanthropia is the only one that disturbed me somewhat. It's very unhinged, and it actually sounds like a crowd of people a state of total insanity. The first two had screams that sounded more like typical black metal screams.

[@blankwavemessiah]

I heard STALAGGH is actually just self recordings of Music of Destruction losing his mind when someone says he's a "poser."

[@joseWeiss8888]

You Should Do: Explaining Kiloton

[@kallumwatts9543]

Could you make a vid exspanding on how this would be considered "normal" within the noise music scene would love to hear other crazy stories

[@SlyHikari03]

Been waiting for this for a long time. Interesting and freaky shit..

[@tubeman5987]

peppa pig listens to grown up music: STALAGGH

[@mobilesuitzetagundam]

What is playing in the background?

[@roughrambo1000000]

I've personally always assumed that the screams were recordings of something known as Primal or Scream Therapy if they were real. It would work because it wouldn't be too far fetched to have it recorded. I didn't know that it was a larger project outside of Misanthropia so I always assumed that it was a gimmic for some crappy raw BM project. I've been getting into more extreme noise and power electronics and yeah a lot of that stuff blows the extreme metal music out of the water in terms of unsettling me. Now I also dont see an issue if it's all fake too, a lot of black metal is just kayfabe so why can't Stalaggh be fake too for a theatric or artistic reason?

[@spencergrady5501]

I heard that this was a side project of the Deafheaven guitarist and bassist from No Doubt.

[@drackaris_]

Yo Blood and Sun! Love that project!

[@Matthijs704]

In the Dutch black metal scene it is a pretty welknown fact that this is just another project of Maurice de Jong. I don´t think he is a social worker.

[@wyattxhim]

I know he’s stated in an interview that he’s a web designer that works from home. For all we know it probably is him.

[@Matthijs704]

@@wyattxhim He for sure is a genius who could have pulled it off to fabricate the myth and keep it going for so long. He did a lot of amazing things.

[@patrickbertlein4626]

Never heard this one before but holy shit would be that crazy if it was true.

[@dumbbirdwayne]

I suppose i could attribute them to my later interest in noise stuff, subconsciously I guess my mind latched onto the early internet videos about them on “spooky” channels, and the idea just stuck, later in life I’ve really gotten into experimental and noise music, and I think that those videos back then might’ve sparked it lol, even if it wasn’t true, that the myths weren’t real, the concept of making projects from pure agony has always been interesting, same with art projects based on people’s health, it’s just an interesting way to portray those feelings beyond just “oh they’re mentally/physically ill”

[@mf_luder]

dunno about the institution, the band stated that among criminals there are SA victims and pr*stitutes present on the records, so why would they also be held in an institution that holds criminally insane 🤔

[@Roy-ts9nv]

Probably because the band has no real understanding of the mental healthcare system and base their backstory on movies and common misconceptions. Their work predates our modern obsession with fact checking so there was likely no motivation to research the topic they were using for shock value.

[@patrickbertlein4626]

@@Roy-ts9nv Maybe, or maybe there's stuff you don't know about and none of us should assume unless we actually have at the least second-hand knowledge. Yes, I am saying word of mouth from friends of friends is way more reliable than someones Reddit post.

[@Dolorem_bM]

Please do a ,,Explaining Kettlecadaver“

[@Santtu1337]

Can you make a video about Damián Antón Ojeda?

[@Tauramehtar]

If only I could help all those who were suffering.

[@SchnellVITALVINYLVLOG]

I saw Dalek with ISIS twice, I saw the LP behind you just reminded me.

[@xwolfiegreenwoodx]

I own the Gulaggh album but I've probably only listened to it all the way through once. I'm big into Noise and Power Electronics but this project never really interested me beyond curiousity. I've never believed the story behind the project. It just doesn't add up. Ps - do an Atrax Morgue video please.

[@Baumscheibenkunst]

To me, it's neither terrifying nor disturbing but plain and simply boring. Kinda like listening to white noise or a recording of street noise on a busy road. In one ear, out the other without touching anything in between.

[@AltWriteWegner]

A Stalag was in fact a POW camp for enlisted personnel, as opposed to an Oflag where captured officers were held. Imagine some low-key »Hogan's Heroes« setting.

[@JustAnotherHeavyMetalManiac]

I doubt the people behind this project actually know what a Stalag is lol. They probably just chose that name because they thought it had something to do with the Holocaust.

[@ImGazu]

Black metal's final form

[@Wesman2020]

I found an interview, I forget where, but one of the members of Stalaggh stated that another member worked for an institute in Holland and they made up forms for the patients to sign giving them permission to record their screams. I'm 50/50 on this being real because there's so little info on this and I think a reason that no institute was named specifically was because the institute could be shut for ethical reasons as this could be seen as unethical, but that's just my thoughts. I own a vinyl boxset of the four "main" albums and Pure Misanthropia is the only album that has no artist credited.

[@Timballer-z5x]

Wow only five minutes ago you uploaded this.

[@RobertFisher-q3q]

I'm pretty sure that Stallagh has a connection with Silencer. The faces in the mirror on the album cover for Death - Pierce Me look eerily similar to that of the face on Project Nihil. But perhaps I'm reaching here lol.

[@p1sstoph3]

industrial noise, now we're on my plane :P. when are you going to do a video talking about Paul Lemos and Controlled Bleeding?

[@cherrytonshawty9120]

Reminds me of Silencer and Emit, almost.

[@NeptuneTowers]

It's a Dutch band and the story behind the band/album is nothing more than a urban legend so to speak. That really takes away the myth

[@patrickbertlein4626]

But its not.

[@kingdiamondscream]

I worked at various psych wards for over 15 years. I think some of the stuff sounds legit but haha we are talking about screams. How is it possible to tell if it's real or not, it's freaking humans screaming, anyone human can make disturbing screams, anyone in anyplace. Whether it's real or fake we won't ever really know and that's why some people dig it

[@MuscalityInObscurity]

As a health professional, I don’t think they could have done what they claim to have. But still, the soundscapes are terrifying. I think they could have backed away from interviews and the mystique of the sounds would have carried on regardless.

[@kogure7235]

I feel like there will never be a way to know without a doubt. If elements of the story aren't real, revealing more details could make it easier to debunk. And if it is all real, the people involved probably don't want for their identities to be out there. The story certainly sounds plausible, but I doubt anything definitive will ever come out

[@Sofija-666]

I'm curious about the children though, there could have been children in Pieter Baan? It was for those who had committed crimes, wasn't it?

[@ComboNinja06]

Ngl this dude good at yapping (no hate)

[@inhumanoiddcompose7043]

mum? mummy, i’m frightened.

[@knifechimp3831]

video on Thou next?

[@Eyeofthesheppard]

I myself live in the netherlands close to the pieter baan centre and would like to investagate this

[@thelegendofner0]

Most mentally insane people don't sound like this, you ever even been to a mental hospital?

[@Big_Tough_Guy]

I once met the fastest rapper in the world in the hospital. I'm going to hell for laughing, but holy fuck that was so funny. He kept announcing his stage name and then rapping so fast that eventually is was just "ahhhhhh" 🤣 I should've recorded it and made an album. Would have been better than this shit.

[@drauglurdarkambient]

I thank you for that

[@munkey9064]

albert?

[@sukdawghawt]

what are your thoughts on Lorna Shore?

[@diabeticmonkey]

That sure does have a lot to do with the subject matter at hand.

[@sinnermeister]

Next do Silencer for clout views bro lol

[@clutchgolf]

It's more urban legend than anything else. I mean the sounds are real and have been recorded but the means in which they or he did it is speculation at best.

[@infernalcovenant666]

Very unique sound

[@MarkSide_]

Fall into the backrooms and this is playing.

[@Jimmy-n6j]

Pieter got him!

[@carlitos5984]

I haven’t heard of these guys in a while lmao

[@72ndHUMAN]

wicked thumbnail

[@capam15]

Forgot about this one lol

[@chessforfunonly1586]

Never heard of it.

[@thelegendofner0]

0:56 "all the information provided by the ANONYMOUS members is factual" exactly, find the errror lol

[@eole123456789]

To be honest this is such BS. First of all there is NO way this comes from actual mental patients. For starters you can't just walk into a mental institution and "record" patients. Secondly my brother who has been working in the biggest mental institution in my country for 20 years and handles lunatics on a daily basis, says he almost never hears screams like these. If at least the sound put on tape was remotely interesting but this is just the dumbest most fake edgy stuff I have ever heard. Not everyone can be Gnaw Their Tongues...

[@hypnovertigo7200]

These screams are easily fakable and a mockery to the mentally ill

[@Big_Tough_Guy]

I learned how to scream in the psyche ward. It was intense man... They put me in a room alone, which I thought was gonna be for eternity, and I screamed like a madman... I wish somebody recorded it LOL. It was chilling. Anyway, this band is awful. At least Nattramn gets Leere to write actual music for his PR stunts.

[@jackraiser4391]

I don't believe for a second that this is a real 100% band. Great music though, and I would definitely call "Projekt Misanthropia" an Experimental Black Metal album. Never liked Gulaggh but still waiting for the supposed two remaining albums they were gonna make. Another rumor that went around was that the members got arrested, which of course wasn't true. Great vid.

[@patrickbertlein4626]

People who are so sure of themselves must have really fragile egos. Even though I was part of a still underground Black metal scene at the time of this coming out, and have WAY more reasons to believe this is true than it is not, I can still recognize that I don't, in fact, 100% know. Because that is assumption. Grow up a bit man, you're skeptical I get it, you 100% (don't believe)? You're full of it than.

[@jackraiser4391]

@@patrickbertlein4626 This isn't reddit

[@seaofseeof]

@@patrickbertlein4626 you're way too invested in this.

[@samuelcamarillo1349]

great video talk about pseudoscorpion next

[@gleppy163]

No wtf

[@lethalButters]

For me I lean about 90% it's real and 10% it's fake. I would probably still be ok with it being fake just because of how real it sounds but considering the fact that there's so many different screams and groans. From the Gulaggh album there's definitely sounds of women and children it makes it seem like they actually did record metal patients. Sure, they could've gotten a bunch of friends to record it, there's no proof they did or didn't, but I just lean toward real because of how visceral and organic it feels. Good job finding the potential institute as well. The Pieter Baan Centre's wiki page states that it's also for criminals which lines up with their stories and some of them 'allegedly' getting attacked. I think the music room could've been a good place to record but I'd think the guy who recorded them did it in secret. I do think that a big reason why they need to remain anonymous is because he could 100% lose his job not just from recording people like that but because of the nazi name related to the band. Whether they are or not doesn't really matter to your boss you know? He would be fired and probably black listed from every facility. It makes sense why that one member wouldn't matter because he doesn't need to make a connection directly with the members in another country, just message the band as a whole. For me it makes sense why they're anonymous and can't talk about who they are or where everything took place. Sure that means it can be faked but it can also point to it being real because, like I said, he could get into massive trouble and possible legal trouble for doing it. Maybe they stopped because they felt they were going to get caught, maybe he did get caught and the institute want's to keep it off the books in fear of retaliation or legal trouble for having them record there. There's so much that can legally go bad for them I think it will be impossible to know for sure unless something actually legally happens to them which I don't think will happen since they did stop. Good video. Oh, and the artwork for :pure misanthropia: is fantastic.

[@rossapotimusyo9635]

Dalek > Stalaggh

[@M-D-K]

Lol this is cringe af. Believing it is worse. Remember when Brujeria were a terrorist group, kidnapped Roadrunner bosses and forced them give a recording contract? Or Nattramn grafting pig feet to his arms in place if hands. 🤦‍♂️

[@twokidsmovies]

Do you know Nirvana Nevermind?