The Mystery of the Vanishing Undersea Cable

[@business]

Get unlimited access to Bloomberg.com for $1.99/month for the first 3 months: www.bloomberg.com/subscriptions?in_source=KZbinOriginals A Subsea Cable Went Missing. Was Russia to Blame? Read more: www.bloomberg.com/features/2024-undersea-cable-sabotage-russia-norway/

[@purdjack3]

@@business Your reporter contradicted himself, great mental gymnastics that we have come to expect from western media. Military siphons through info first then passes on redacted documents to scientists. So the first objective is not a scientific one but military monitoring system. Such hypocrisy.

[@thelastaustralian7583]

i would be checking with the Scrapyard Dealers . Its probably some Junkies !

[@Lordlindef]

Pay me and i show you all info from the other side of it all. But not here at coruption KZbin 🎉🎉🎉 3 it was broken 2021. But this is not even 1% of all the real story

[@_c_y_p_3]

Why as journalists do you not draw attention to the cowardly attitude of these pathetic “authorities”?

[@havencat9337]

do one about nordStream, or...you cant?

[@mrivucu]

My grandfather was in the us navy from 1919 to 1942 when he retired. Some time in the 1970s when he was 72 years old he was contacted by the USN to reelist to train personnel to splice the undersea cables that he helped lay 50 years prior. The USN is their super intelligent had not continued to train personnel to maintain these cables. Him going back to sea and training new recruits was one of the greatest moments of his life!

[@rockym2931]

Interesting story.

[@enhancedphysique6452]

That's the most American thing I've ever heard, sir!

[@patrickbrinkmeier1858]

How did your Grandfather get to retire from the US Navy in 1942 which was right after the US entered WW2 and the US military not only instituted the draft, but halted ALL retirements untill the war was over. That became actual law also when Congress passed legislation making it impossible to retire from any branch of the military while we were at war. I think you have the dates confused.

[@PAMELAPORTER-ci7mr]

​@@patrickbrinkmeier1858 Could be mistaken as to retirement date, but at his age, retirement should've been mandatory.

[@PAMELAPORTER-ci7mr]

How proud you & your family must be of your grandfather.

[@Organic_Corn_Farmer]

Now do a documentary on Nordstream pipeline.

[@TheNightKing-ptg]

and call it "PAYBACK TIME"

[@currawong60911368]

SS-750 special vessel with an AS-26 Priz...

[@JigilJigil]

It was done by Russia as well.

[@MaciusSzwed]

We all know it was financed and ordered by the USA with the help of the Norwegian Navy so they wont make a documentary about that in the foreseeable future.

[@billpetersen298]

@@JigilJigilContractually there were huge fines, for non delivery of gas. Unless there was an accident.

[@Surannhealz]

Probably two things are true: 1. Russian trawlers aren’t just fishing 2. Undersea data cables aren’t just for scientific data

[@angelkilier]

Most likely both a true but from a video with certain narrative you only hear half of the story.

[@philipbissonnette]

US China Japan do the exact same thing everywhere This is what happens when a country is demonized through a well planned propaganda machine that keeps the boogy man narrative indoctrinated into ignorant peoples brains over and over again .. When people can actually do there own research instead of being willfully ignorant /brainwashed

[@martinha2856]

Agree!

[@trig1900]

They ARE fishing. Fishing for all types of things....

[@draggador]

If both possibilities are true, then both sides in the conflict have reasons to not be too loud during their arguments & to downplay the issues by providing misleading statements to the mass media.

[@josephturner7569]

I was a submariner in the 70's. We took an interest in Russian trawlers all the time. They had lots of aerials. And didn't seem to do much fishing.

[@franceyneireland1633]

Russian fishing boats were used to spy. In the 1990's a Canadian forces helicopter went out to track a Russian fishing boat that had been going into territorial waters off of Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada. The observer from the helicopter was hit with a strong laser type weapon, he was temporarily blind which resulted in permanent damaged to his eyes. There is a Canadian Navy base on Southern Vancouver Island, plus a US nuclear submarine base and a US air force near by as well. Plus the US and Canadian forces do joint regular security maritime drills off of the southern tip of Vancouver Island.

[@georgehays4908]

Read Blind Man's Bluff . I signed a NDA , so I can't tell you much more .

[@georgehays4908]

The Seawolf SSN 575

[@georgehays4908]

Blind Man's Bluff .

[@Robert-t1m3p]

You mean like sabotage on Nord stream by ÇIA 😂

[@Mounhas]

Back to the 1960’s when Soviet “fishing” boats were forever snagging undersea transatlantic telecommunication cables which terminated in Valencia island, Eire, and Porthcurno Cornwall.

[@innosoul]

Usually, 6 research vessels were engaged in espionage, wiretapping of intercontinental cables and damage during that period. They were named after Soviet academicians. 🇨🇦🇺🇦🪖✌️

[@cristianfamigliuolo]

I was a fisherman, no one goes over the same point 140 times😂. They passed over it because they wanted to take it but they weren't capable of it

[@Frank-Thoresen]

In the end they were successful cutting it. Definitely used a seabed cable cutter or cable hook. Also happened on the subsea cables between the Baltics and Finland

[@Stroopwaffe1]

Yikes @@Frank-ThoresenLOSHARIK SUBMARINE HAS TRACKS.

[@FirstLast-zk5ow]

True. But that is if you believe what you're told to think and believe. Do you?

[@didntlistendad]

China uses militarised fishing boats too

[@desperatelyseekingrealnews]

​@@didntlistendadUS just sends in fleets doesn't bother to hide

[@tsheposeanego5582]

Oh so you guys can figure out how cut internet cables but nord stream is a total mystery

[@raybod1775]

CIA

[@KiwiCatherineJemma]

According to some well researched KZbin videos, the most likely destroyers of Nord Stream gas pipelines were (special forces acting under instruction from...) the Gazprom Joint Venture company itself. As Russia started refusing to supply Germany with the full contracted amount of Gas, the Joint Venture company was responsible for huge payouts to their wholesale customers, of the difference between the normal long term gas contract price, and the sudden surge "spot" market gas prices (which had suddenly tripled or more in price) . Gazprom JV had already had to make substantial payouts to it's Western gas customers, and those huge payouts were set to continue for a long time. ....until such time as they could claim "Whoops, force majeure" which gives them an easy "out" to having to hold up their side of the contract and actually deliver gas. "Force majeure" is normally things like serious natural disasters, bad storms or earthquakes. But if a pipeline suddenly gets blown up by unknown persons (those "blimmin' dope smokin', vegetarian hippies !" LOL ) then they are absolved of their contractual obligations to provide cheap Gas.

[@ldkbudda4176]

@@KiwiCatherineJemma The best argumented answer!

[@ex0duzz]

So then why didn't nato and EU cooperate with Russia and reveal all this evidence publicly? Surely they want to incriminate Russia? Your explanation makes no sense

[@osamawilliams9042]

​@@KiwiCatherineJemmaVictoria Nulan made it VERY CLEAR that NORDSTREAM Would NOT Move Forward. THEY ALL KNOW Who BLEW THE PIPELINE UP. 🤨

[@CanseeYou-rw6rc]

The underwater cables are been cut around Taiwan which kind incident happen very offen and Taiwan government knew Which country did that.

[@rcajavus8141]

do you notice a pattern? do dirty work for America, and your cables get cut, go figure...

[@ryanfoo5286]

So yall have like regular internet blackouts?

[@CanseeYou-rw6rc]

@@ryanfoo5286 It's an unannounced war or bully.

[@ryanfoo5286]

@@CanseeYou-rw6rc ???? This isn’t answering my question tho and what does that mean?

[@superchargerone]

ya right lol cut constantly and yet no news report? taiwanese arent known to keep their mouth shut about many things and this they definitely will note shut up about. Sooo yeah BS that it must have happened very often lol. I support taiwan but dont BS. you reduce taiwanese people's credibility.

[@AndreasOchsenbein]

The whole report assumes that someone who carries out such an act of sabotage leaves their identification transmitter running. Seriously?

[@volodymyrbuchak1852]

And all navigation data also. Begs a question,does’t it?

[@sadee1287]

No, that's not what the report assumes. But the communication cables themselves transmit specific audio frequencies of vessels that are unique audio signatures. That plus satellite imagery and radar can pinpoint which vessels are the likely culprits.

[@policethreshold2719]

Ship tracking data also comes from radar. Not just the on board Navigations

[@astronemir]

@@policethreshold2719what radar out in the middle of the North Sea???

[@paulcrawford6206]

While listening to my dipping sonar from a Cdn sea King helicopter, the co-pilot asked me if I had anything on my sonar, I told him just whales talking, I also told him scientists think whales can communicate up to maybe 1000 miles away given the right ocean conditions. He then asked me what I thought the whales might be saying, I told him I knew exactly what they were saying, they were saying "can you still hear meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?"

[@wilycat5290]

😂😂😂

[@Barbara-t2c]

Iran, China, North Korea ?

[@Chuck8541]

Policeman: "...my jurisdiction is from here, to the North Pole..." Holy moly! lol

[@たなぬにあさか]

😮😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@SN-hg6bx]

That s like me at the poison control center in Quebec 😅

[@Chuck8541]

@@SN-hg6bx haha omg, wow. Be safe out there!

[@andrelapointe1983]

If Santa Claus doesn't bring what you ordered, you call him up!

[@catsupchutney]

"our neighbor country to the east" 😀

[@johnbutterworth1369]

I worked near a deep sea cable company. They come in different grades and even pressure lines that hold up to 2000 psi fluids. Cost is around $500 or more, a foot to produce. They go for miles. It will be interesting to see how these cables will be able to identify their attackers affordably. My mind is wandering on sensors of any type that warn any approaching vessels, including submarines.

[@JRprice25]

@@johnbutterworth1369 which would make it easier to locate 🤔

[@johnbutterworth1369]

@@JRprice25 Agreed, but the identity of the vessel would be logged down. Are you speaking of the vessel being easier to locate or the cable itself? Who would try to hide a cable on the seafloor? My Idea would be, hundreds of, disposable Ballons that are released from below the surface, they take pictures send the timestamp and warning at the same time. That could be within the budget.

[@JRprice25]

@@johnbutterworth1369 I was simply responding to your statement about sensors warning people of the cables.

[@johnbutterworth1369]

@@JRprice25 understood. Seems like there would be a required mapping for those using nets with doors. It is interesting how they investigated the situation. I wonder if they are insured for damage to the cable. Its my first exposure to such an incident. Same things happens in outer space with sat coms being attacked. No way to hold them accountable.

[@johngeen7219]

Dutch engineers are developing a system using unused wires inside the cable to detect something near the cable.

[@Jovanboez]

Another fiber optic cable fell from the balcony !

[@vondahe]

Yeah, and a Chinese CTO running this lame excuse for a submarine tracking facility. This is about as naive as you can possibly get. “Yes, a Russian alleged fishing boat sailed back and forth over the ruptured cable 140 times just as it was destroyed, but we don’t have enough evidence.” I don’t know what more evidence you expect to find. The Russian ambassador confessing to his country destroying their military installations? Get real.

[@lindaj5492]

…or out of the window…

[@sheikhqh716]

😂😂😂 hilarious

[@joelwexler]

@@lindaj5492 Russian windows are like black holes.

[@ronniaj]

I was Fischer man in the North Sea and we snagged on cables often and I’ve heard stories that some crews just cut the cables

[@ContraVsGigi]

Ivan, is that you? Joking.

[@BattousaiHBr]

curious, how would they actually cut the cables, considering they have steel wire shielding? i don't think that's doable with whatever is on a fishing vessel, you'd need grinders or industrial cutters.

[@ronniaj]

@ you don’t think we use heavy electric tools when at sea. I’m not talking about small only close cost boats

[@ronniaj]

@in the Baltic Sea after you pull up the nets they are red with copper. So they are not all shielded like you suggested

[@BattousaiHBr]

@@ronniaj these cables are absolutely decked out in shielding. other less important and less expensive cables may not be so shielded. you can see in this video at 7:12 all the thick steel wires.

[@iam5085]

Russian vessels have been cutting cables in North sea and Gulf of Finland,.common information here. They have been searching for cables many years already from various countries. Nordic countries even made a document about Russian "fishing fleets" that are suspected. In case of Balticconnector, it was a Chinese-Russian vessel that used an anchor to cdrag and cut cables and a pipe.

[@dannydetonator]

True that. Rustbucket "Chinese" vessel with Russian crew, including military. They dragged it between Finland and Estonia exactly where the most cables go, until the anchor tore off, i think that's how investigation proved it was them.

[@martinha2856]

They have the right to defense themselves or you forgot the NORDSTREAMS ?

[@VolkXue]

@@martinha2856 i didnt forget Nordstream and Russia did it o,O war criminal lover.

[@des_smith7658]

er okay, that makes sense

[@jeffreystroman2811]

​@@VolkXueI'm pretty sure you realize attacking the character of a person and not their arguments essentially conceded they are correct, and yet you still did it

[@SurfingFLA]

About 4-days ago, I was thinking, "How do you keep an adversary from destroying undersea communications cables?" A day later this video shows up. This phenomenon happens to me on a weekly to biweekly basis-I think it, KZbin presents it. I know what you are thinking; Google heard me talking about it. In some cases that is possible, but overall it's merely that an odd thought shows up in my brain, and within 3-days KZbin presents me with a video or multiple videos on the subject.

[@ceasarwright7567]

Youre on to something. Be carefull !

[@zen4men]

Life always reminds us that all of Life is One Mind. The Birth-to-Death-I-Dentity is an illusion of separateness - a forgetting that allows us to play the Human Game, and know Fear. /

[@Rob-k4m]

you are the Chosen One

[@SurfingFLA]

@@Rob-k4m That's a lot of pressure. I was hoping others have been experiencing the same.

[@KyleJames2580]

Na, you're missing context. What have you been watching? Everything is interconnected you are presuming your thought was the starting point. Ask yourself why did you think about the sea cable. You didn't just randomly think of that. Something produced that thought that you're not consciously aware of.

[@rumplestilskin5776]

Of course it was sabotage. Back in the 70s a Russian "reasearch" ship dragged their anchor while leaving port in Woods Hole. They managed to unplug half of Cape Cod.

[@marypaquette8705]

Do you have any theory's, on the woman on Marconi beach on the South shore of Massachusetts that was thrown in the air from her beach chair? Many people on the beach saw this. Marconi cable was installed from this beach, is it still working, why was she thrown in the air? After the investigation the Police had no answers, and it was kept out of the news, a live cable is broken but electrocutes a woman in a metal chair? 😮

[@rumplestilskin5776]

@@marypaquette8705 Life in Biden's America

[@TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect]

As an american that does alot of reading... I have ZERO issue with russia... idk too many countries outside of russia that speak russian... so i dont see them trying to conquer the world.. but america has army bases all over the world

[@furryangels1814]

That woman is wrong saying that Russia doesn't have the technology. For starter, Russia has the most powerful nuclear-powered icebreakers and navy in the North pole. They're plenty capable of doing whatever they please up there. Look up "Ice wars".

[@utherpen69]

I work in the submarine cable industry. This is a storm in a tea cup. Cables are damaged all the time and we go out and repair them. If someone wanted to damage the hydrophone, that's what they would do, cutting the cable is the simplest part to replace or repair.

[@Ctrl_Del_0]

You are right. They get damaged all the time. This was just another opportunity to blame Russia without evidence because not one piece of evidence was presented.

[@hansmalm2801]

The Russians are doing the damage they can do, not the damage they want to do.

[@georgeallen7667]

Thanks for the tip

[@mtb5778]

what damages them?

[@utherpen69]

@@mtb5778 mainly fishing gear and anchors.

[@brunonikodemski2420]

Our company designed some older in-water surveillance systems, and now in modern times, ANY optical cable can be used to track underwater pressure waves. The audio bandwidths are somewhat limited by the cable construction, but signatures of capital vessels and high energy events are straightforwardly obtained. Cables without armor coating have the highest bandwidths. Capital countries have tried to intercept each others data flows, for decades, with major successes in many areas. One advantage of optical cables is that is easier to determine if they have been intercepted, but nonetheless it can be done. As per the video commentary, Russia it probably training to see how easy it would be to eliminate tracking of submarines, and disrupt any data flow between adversaries, for tactical and strategic purposes. NATO would be well advised to prepare alternate methods for such detection, and possibly plan for active measures against such sabotage.

[@kristinaF54]

NATO leaders are overconfident and delusional. Its general council are made up of very old men that are slow in movement and slow in thought and have no new ideas for security because they have stopped learning and being active thinkers; they leave it to others to foresee possibilities and draft countermeasures only when they realise they need it (which is always too late in the game).

[@jameslong9921]

Time to bring out the pigeons!

[@miapdx503]

It seems crazy that such an expensive and crucial piece of equipment would be so easily abrupted. But then, who would imagine that they would see sabotage at such an isolated, inaccessible location.

[@DUBSTEP_KUSH305]

Maybe russia stole it to sell the copper

[@jonathantaylor6926]

Its fiber.

[@M3rVsT4H]

@@jonathantaylor6926 whooooosh..

[@alexg9727]

@@jonathantaylor6926 it also has copper that is used for powering repeaters

[@alexg9727]

@@jonathantaylor6926 Go look up how long distance cables are made. Its not a straight shot

[@jnemo2605]

@@alexg9727 That's right., even on usb3 cables for VR headsets like my MetaQuest 2.

[@stateofsurvival8457]

YOu need to hire law enforcement that understand this. This is a typical test. Theya re waiting to see how long it will take for you to notice the problem and fix it. This is preparation for something bigger.

[@somedud1140]

Or an answer for something prior. Was there a pipe in Baltic Sea?

[@Jr-qo4ls]

You may be right.

[@NONANTI]

Beware of snipers when repairing the cable.

[@arbjful]

I think there is an underwater baby troll, that lives in one of the under sea caves…. When it sees the cable dangling outside the cave, it peeks its head out and goes chomp…chomp……😂😂😂 The cable is basically like spaghetti for the troll…..

[@thomasjhenniganw]

The US could give a class on sabotaging. They are experts on sabotaging.

[@robertjamesonmusic]

Cool story, bot

[@Richardincancale]

9:32 Another option is that a military vessel spoofed the MMSI used in their AIS transponder to make it appear to be a fishing vessel. Impossible to confirm the vessel identity without other corroborating evidence such as satellite observations, either visual or RF.

[@herzogsbuick]

this. also, the russian military could have told the vessel to maintain a cover for it while it did its thing.

[@JRprice25]

Or simply took the vessel to conduct this operation without the fishermen and captain on board.

[@user-McGiver]

@@JRprice25 wouldn't be the first time to do that... that's their favored way of action...!

[@JRprice25]

@@user-McGiver I wasn’t aware but my first guess and still is.

[@jojoanggono3229]

No need for spoofing. They can install a second set of AIS with fake identity, such as identity of similar size vessel. Some AIS system (non- civillian) can also be set to Stealth mode, which they only listen but don't transmit.

[@MartinPiper6502]

How was it possible that several days went by before the data loss was detected? Wasn't there any automated system monitoring the data feed and alerting people via reliable messages when a fault is detected?

[@0101-s7v]

Norwegian government knew right away

[@PigeonLaughter01]

Weekend.

[@Kirbo-n1i]

MartinPiper6502.Russia is blamed for everything negative on earth even if there is draughts and it doesn't rain as natural it's the Russians. When are we going to be fair as humans that one is always blamed for something they don't like. Let's learn to be fair to others.

[@0101-s7v]

@@Kirbo-n1i Russia is the scapegoat for several things, which is unfair. But in this case…… it's Russia.

[@Kirbo-n1i]

@@0101-s7v If that is the Russians how was it possible that it took the Norwegians several months to identify this important issue. Is this not a way of trying to impress the Norwegians how bad the Russians are and therefore it was worth joining NATO?

[@Antipodean33]

If those Russian vessels were doing that deliberately all they had to do was turn off their AIS and any other vessel identification systems and then destroy the cable. It doesn't make sense that they'd knowingly destroy the cable and allow their navigational route to be recorded, thus showing they were the only vessel there at the time of destruction

[@sadee1287]

Sure they would. And there's more than one way to record the audial frequency signature of ocean vessels. They just don't care.

[@globaldeception7414]

Nice. Next video call it. Mystery vanishing of private property. And the mystery of the magicly vanishing pay check

[@bertkilborne6464]

Mystery of vanishing human beings

[@rockym2931]

Well, you may admit that those are less mysterious.

[@Retroscoop]

Mystery of a vanishing beacon of democracy.....

[@meepk633]

goo goo gaa gaa

[@meepk633]

@@rockym2931 "globaldeception7414" could stop showing up late to his shifts at McDonalds. That's one way to stop his pay check from magically vanishing.

[@JohmScriv]

I just can't trust corporate controlled mainstream media these days, so slick, so sophisticated, transparently contrived.

[@TheDog_Chef]

If they turn off their transponder you won’t know who was there. Bad actors always do this.

[@qq84]

Yes, like the US-navy as they placed the charges on Nordstream.

[@MIL-STD]

Someone knows it's there. It ain't you.

[@gurglejug627]

bad actors - do you mean *all* NATO warships, then? Entire formations will plough along at speed with their AIS transponders off - day, night, fog, doesn't matter to them. Be sure the Russians know where they are, as does anyone with half a radar, but small yacht sailors don't.

[@fuzzybutkus8970]

Like the cops you mean?

[@Ctrl_Del_0]

I thought the same thing.

[@hippopotamus86]

4th theory. There was a second ship with the tracker turned off that used the first as a cover. Possibly as a test to see the reaction.

[@allseeingeyezz]

Russian submarine

[@Corteum]

This whole report sounds like a sales pitch.... trying to sell a certain narrative.

[@forjackfrost]

You have security concerns and then you have a Chinese guy as Chief Technology Officer of a strategic project lol

[@bullwinklejmoos]

His accent though makes me believe he’s Norwegian born.

[@wolpumba4099]

*Summary* *Incident:* * *(**0:02**)* In 2021, a research data cable off the coast of Norway, belonging to a Norwegian ocean observatory, was mysteriously severed. * *(**1:21**)* The cable was crucial for marine life research and also provided data to the Norwegian military. *Investigation:* * *(**5:36**)* Initial investigations pointed towards accidental damage by fishing trawlers. * *(**6:00**)* Ship tracking data revealed a Russian trawler, the Sammy, crossed the cable's path when it was damaged. * *(**6:42**)* Divers recovered the cable and discovered a clean cut, indicating intentional damage. * *(**8:48**)* Police interviewed the Sammy's crew but lacked sufficient evidence for prosecution. *Similar Incidents:* * *(**10:14**)* Seven months later, another undersea cable connecting the Svalbard archipelago to mainland Norway was damaged. * *(**11:11**)* Evidence pointed to a different Russian trawler, the Melkart 5, which had been in the vicinity multiple times. * *(**11:51**)* Again, authorities couldn't pursue a criminal case due to lack of concrete evidence. *Possible Explanations and Implications:* * *(**12:58**)* Experts believe the incidents were likely intentional acts of sabotage, not accidents. * *(**13:36**)* These acts could be a form of Russian training for disrupting critical infrastructure during conflicts. * *(**13:44**)* Russia might be sending a message or exerting pressure with these actions. * *(**15:15**)* The vastness and remoteness of the Arctic region make it extremely challenging to protect underwater infrastructure. *Overall:* * The documentary highlights the vulnerability of undersea cables and the difficulty in attributing blame for their damage. * It suggests a pattern of Russian activity targeting these cables, potentially as part of a broader strategy of unconventional warfare and geopolitical maneuvering. i used gemini 1.5 pro

[@mikelanglow-bi2sv]

Forgive me. A very kind and forgiving documentary. Sprinkled with a bit too much naivety ❤

[@snorttroll4379]

that is skandinavia for you

[@henkmagnetic3103]

Kindly sponsor by US of A government.

[@alwaysflushinpublic]

Shhhhhh. America does not want it's reputation ruined

[@geoffas]

@@alwaysflushinpublic USA's reputation was ruined decades ago 😛

[@loicdore39]

Reminds me the mystery of north stream pipeline blown up...

[@waylonmccrae3546]

Nord-Stream ...

[@moif_velocita]

Is not exactly a mystery

[@CombatMosquitoTrainer]

No mystery there. It was the usual suspect, done to get out of their fixed price gas contract in Europe.

[@miketomlin6040]

@@CombatMosquitoTrainer Russia, USA and Ukraine all had motives. At the moment Ukraine is seen as the most likely.

[@ElDragoIE]

It was..the Russians Bahahahah

[@GetSmart519]

Wasn’t it reported a Chinese cargo ship dragged its anchor. Definitely sabotage.

[@axllii]

That was in the Finnish Bay, where a gas pipe between Finland and Estonia was cut.

[@dannydetonator]

Yes to above, just that old "Chinese" ship had no Chinese aboard. Only Russians.

[@axllii]

@@dannydetonator I didn't know, but that makes total sense!

[@88Well]

What's amazing to me is this new generation of people that believe Russia isn't a threat. This thought alone is a danger to our Country.

[@YouAreStillNotablaze]

Not only that but the elected representatives that spread that government's propaganda for them.

[@Right_Meowww]

Most likely the Russians thought there was a washing machine on the other end of the cable and could not resist.

[@sg-vp2qg]

?? This comment must refer to something I don't know about, so I don't get the joke. ?.

[@juziotrompka]

@@sg-vp2qg No. The fellow is emotionally backward.

[@dallysinghson5569]

@@sg-vp2qg I'll give you a hint- it has something to do with looting neighbours.

[@wilycat5290]

😂😂😂

[@jamesridley3596]

It happened in Shetland two subsea cables cut

[@worldwidestuff5567]

Wow, no Shet!?

[@thor.halsli]

Fishing vessel, not sabotage, to blame for Shetland Island submarine cable cut

[@John-mf6ky]

​@@thor.halsli seems like it would be really easy to use a fishing vessel to make it look like an accident.

[@thor.halsli]

@@John-mf6ky The UK government found the fishing vessel who did it years ago lol

[@leelunk8235]

@@thor.halsli OK AND SO WHAT, THEY COULD MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT WAS A FISHING ACCIDENT, DAH

[@stryhx]

great small documentary!!!!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@cpucooler88]

They should ask Seymour Hersh to investigate what really happened.

[@yvonnesmith6152]

👏 👏 👏 exactly

[@currawong60911368]

@@cpucooler88 he is too busy at RT for any outside work

[@yomajo]

fun fact: his writing did not contain any written resources, so essentially a fictional genre.

[@sirtra]

​@@yomajoriiiight, so every single NYT and Washington Post article which uses "anonymous sources" or "people familiar with the matter" are considered fictional to you? 😂

[@snorttroll4379]

@@sirtra often they are

[@patmcbride9853]

The polar regions are not going to be clear of ice any time soon.

[@Kevin-x4p4y]

LOL - They're mad that they're having a hard time getting ships through this year...blaming global warming for the ice sheets melting and clogging up the arctic routes LOL . If/when the whole arctic freezes over in summer...they'd still blame global warming xD

[@patmcbride9853]

@@Kevin-x4p4y Russia built more nuclear powered icebreakers because they don't buy the BS.

[@oligultonn]

@@Kevin-x4p4y yeah it's quite funny, here in the eastern part of the Westfjords in Iceland we had arctic sea ice almost from October to May. At one point you could have probably walked over to Greenland on it.

[@ArcFlash100]

I always find the comments to be rich when they include the pseudoscience of global warming. They act as if in 12 years the north Atlantic will be blue sunny Pacific like body of water. Beautiful clear, wide open and available for commerce and humans use. These people live in La La Land.

[@sadee1287]

The polar ice caps melting has been a matter of record for some time now. Satellite imagery shows the reduction in ice over the last 50 years. I guess you like living in denial...

[@mozdickson]

Extremely well produced. Every part is fact rich and precise. Prepare!

[@xeusai]

saying that area is big and we cant monitor is wrong because fiber optic cable can be monitored with OTDR system once cable snug , the warning will be sent to early response center, no marine vessel can run away red handed ! cables can be used to monitor themselves, only the issue might be OTDR after amplifiers but i am pretty sure even for that case there are solution

[@asicdathens]

The do not use surface vessels for such sinister activities.

[@joewoodchuck3824]

How can anyone respond fast enough to catch anyone in the act? Distances can be very large.

[@sirtra]

​@@joewoodchuck3824satellites, if it was russia the US would have been all over it and we'd never hear the end of it, just like that counter offensive that was going to totally turn the tables Instead we get this propaganda piece trying to smear russia. One minute their claiming this cable is responsible for all this vital data to coming from the little white domes that are collecting vast amounts of satellite data and thus it was definitely an intentional and strategic attack by Russia Yet in the opening minute they claim it was only discovered when a single person arrived to work one day, noticed they couldn't communicate with something and they were stumped on what the issue was. Then in the middle the vanishing cable magically appears and it's definitely a man made cut not damage from an anchor. Which miraculously only a single russian ship was nearby, not only that but this intentional and strategic sabotage by russia was covertly done by crossing the cable 140 times, because whilst they have nfi where this vital cable broke and took them days to find.. this same single guy now has pinpoint accuracy data for the russian ship, for the exact time and location of the cable they didnt know was broken til the guy arrived at work. How are people this gullible and naive?

[@zaxcomp]

COTDRs can shoot through repeaters, but you generally can't run them with in-service traffic. The distance in this video is an unrepeatered system though, so an OTDR is fine (though also needs no traffic on the cable).

[@joewoodchuck3824]

@@zaxcomp How can a repeater be used underwater? With the kind of terrestrial RF repeaters I know about they need power to run. Usually with local AC mains, but sometimes on solar. How would anything like that be done at depth in an open ocean?

[@HonorConnorr]

The US Navy actually has a prototype drone called the Manta Ray UUV which would will be perfect for monitoring areas around undersea cables!

[@dioscurity]

But they are thousands of miles long …how can they monitor more than 1% of that?

[@noelrossbridge2514]

Hahahahahaha best submarines manufactured on earth are manufactured by Russia.

[@thomasgrun3731]

@@dioscurity maybe underwater drones like the manta ray can patrol the cable when multiple of them are used and have somehow data that shows them when someone is crossing the cable to have a look so noone can just scuba dive and cut it

[@ianmcsherry5254]

​@@noelrossbridge2514 Vatnik.

[@ianmcsherry5254]

There are a huge number of different types of underwater vehicles in use already. The "manta" is just one well-publicised one that catches the attention of the media. Certainly, for the next generation of military underwater combat capability in the West, just as in the air, with the "loyal wingman" element of 6th-gen fighter programmes, it won't just be crewed submarines, it will be uncrewed subs, also armed, operating alongside. Lots of uncrewed subs, zero manpower costs or considerations, so you can have more. Attritable in times of war. Or at least more so than something with humans aboard.

[@sassulusmagnus]

4:30 "To be honest, this is not the most securely defended place I've ever seen." as a man walks up to a small utility shed.

[@barrywood4375]

It’s locked though. That’s all you need.

[@farmlyful]

Sonar make whale beach themselves so they probably don’t like it. I don’t think it’s common sense to have cables everywhere. Who thought of this is sinister.

[@akbeal]

Russia harming its neighbors! This is truly shocking...

[@LongStep]

more expensive cables need to be used that will alarm when they are cut and direct the investigators the the exact location of the cut.

[@swaggery]

It would still take a while to find the source as the relay stations are pretty far from each other. Plus if the relay stations themselves were producing data, it could be spoofed. Plus in a wartime scenario it won't matter as there would be bigger problems in contested waters.

[@Curt-0001]

All they need is alerting on each endpoint of the cable. The shed where the PCs were rebooted should have immediately triggered an alert and initiated a service to call someone who could respond. We do this is our tiny data center so why would they not do this on a national research project???

[@joewoodchuck3824]

Fault location technology is rather simple really.

[@glenm99]

​@@Curt-0001 Research funding is extremely competitive and limited, so projects tend to be run on shoestring budgets, lots of volunteer/student labour. So they can't hire someone to continuously monitor alarms in the same way that private companies do. I worked on a similar research project as a grad student, and basically I was the only one pulling data on a regular basis, and therefore the only one checking for sustained comm fails. Half a dozen people got the daily system status report, but it was basically always the same, a few intermittent comm fails and reconnects, maybe 20 per day... so you'd just delete it without looking. If there was a problem, it was discovered when I was ready for fresh numbers. If I took a week to work on figures for a paper or study for exams or even just go out of town, the thing could be down for that long without anyone knowing. (After I left, I bet some parts it could have gone down for 3 months at a time.) And that seems to be what happened here.

[@Curt-0001]

@@joewoodchuck3824 Time domain reflectometer?

[@timkirkpatrick9155]

The concern I would have is that the 'discovery' of encroachment and damage is after the fact. How is there no real time monitoring?

[@eura542]

Before I even watched it I knew they were about to use the Russian boogeyman

[@skittles1624]

When I was a kid I think I ran into one of these. I was playing off the coast of Mexico and I dove pretty deep (I can swim well). And I grabbed a giant cable, it was super heavy and almost stuck to the bottom. It gave me a really weird feeling to tug on it so I just left it alone, I mean I was like 10 or 11. But ever since then I knew the ocean had a lot of these mysterious cables.

[@jpdemer5]

The observatory can hear submarines . . . and somebody doesn't want them to be heard.

[@gaz8891]

Yes, it seems all rather straightforward.

[@ScoutSniper3124]

IF I was a bad actor and wanted to damage them, all it would take is a weighed sled that a ship could drag along the bottom with a blade or two to cut the cables as it was dragged across them. Cables are buried when they're closer to shore to prevent damage from anchors, maybe it's time to consider burying them all the way across.

[@g4eva193]

Ocean is known for being very deep in some areas.

[@savage.4.24]

Yes anchor chains are very very long too.​@@g4eva193

[@5amH45lam]

What looked to be an interesting mini doc turns out to be more anti Russian propaganda. I guess I should've expected that from clicking on a Bloomberg video.

[@frozbiggins]

Well if you stand back and look at this situation without bias you could come to the conclusion that if Nato is threatening Russia then it is understandable that Russia would do this. Case closed, nothing to see here.

[@WillFinch-k4j]

Another Russian apologist telling us how poor Russia was threatened by what? How to steal more revenues flooding in every day into the kleptocratic Putin regime.

[@Broken_dish]

you gotta have camera's sound things along the cable some sort of detection and identification device

[@domwings4329]

If people don’t know, during WWII, undersea cables which at the time mostly connected international communication were quickly severed as war strategy

[@favourites2654]

It was done by the American again as they did the German North Sea pipe line from Russia 3:00

[@drewodessa2483]

Russia blew its own pipeline for $$$. There were multi year gas contracts at set rates. After Russia invaded Ukraine they were losing money vs. the market rate. Blowing the N2 pipeline created a Force Majur allowing Russia to get out of their money-losing contracts and sell their gas on the open market for a much higher prices via new contracts. Their LoShark subs are purpose-built for underwater demolition. RIP when they mistakenly cut an undersea electrical cable rather than an undersea communication cable.

[@madmattdigs9518]

I would like to comment on this but every time I say something negative about Russia on this platform my comment gets deleted. Isn’t that strange?

[@RAYxBONES]

Homeless people stole to sell the copper…

[@eduardointrinajr.1303]

😅 !!!

[@Brood_Master]

What really happened is that homless people stole it to sell the copper....

[@juditrotter5176]

Creepy ATT Long Lines? This is a great article! I think most people think by now most inter continental data transfer is by Satellite but ATT LongLines Division carries lots of information.

[@justjacqueline2004]

Tell the CIA to stop cutting cables.

[@Jr-qo4ls]

Putin’s FSB and Navy, not CIA.

[@gazmasonik2411]

Exactly..

[@dallysinghson5569]

@@gazmasonik2411 CIA is run by Putin, send message direct to Putin.

[@qualicumwilson5168]

at 00:40, is there really FOUR data cables from Greenland? To Newfoundland, Iceland, Denmark (via Norway) and Ireland? Really? I looked, ONE (double ) cable goes from NL to Greenland to Iceland. One small cable goes up to three small "settlements" in Greenland. (That cable would not even be as large a capacity as the "cablevision" cable that goes by my house.) Anyway, it is nice to see Norway blames Russia as much as the USA blames Canada.

[@martinha2856]

Will be great if you guys investigate also the NORDSTREAM 1 and 2 Sabotage.

[@dallysinghson5569]

The Cubans did it.

[@laius6047]

Some years ago when i found out that internet is just massive and long cables underwater it blew my mind and the question arose about protection.

[@taahirkamalchagan4018]

Fascinating 🤔 These mini-documentaries are incredible ⭐

[@shafa-atshakeel7896]

These officers look super serious about this 😮

[@susanbengston3208]

Uh Yea. It IS Super Serious!

[@StofStuiver]

Its hilarious ;]

[@diGritz1]

I'm not saying it's aliens........ But it aliens.

[@edwatson1991]

Russian fishing trawlers have long been used to conduct secret operations. When I was younger during the cold war it was common for them to be present when things happened but they have never been actually caught. Certainly it was them.

[@coronavmartinez3640]

Mermaids playing tug o war..😂

[@davidwebster7918]

You are a yard out if you think Russia sabotaged their own cable!

[@jonsingle1614]

Cable gone ??? Those copper theives are getting out of control !!

[@robertb.seddon1687]

Hmmmmm!? Sounds like a gas pipeline I've heard about!

[@juliettedemaso7588]

Dang for a sec i thought this was about the Nordstream Pipeline but then I saw Bloomberg and laughed at my folly.

[@indigoratnik]

I was hoping for an interesting documentary but what I got was a disgusting piece of baseless accusations and anti-russian propaganda. Disgusting.

[@johnhelms]

Sink both boats when they come near your territory, you know how accidents happen! Just like how both cables are cut by Russian ships at the same time on purpose!

[@bilaniribam]

The Usual Suspects : Igor Rasputin Maximovich and Vladimir

[@viralfire]

These accusations are based on conjecture and speculation. "There is not enough evidence to pursue a criminal case", which means that it's all speculative nonsense.

[@NEKRWSPHERE]

The only observation that doesn't fit with "fully intentional" is the fact that the 2 cables were severed differently. The second one was clearly snagged first. But it's important to understand that even in the event Russia had nothing to do with it, or in the event it wasn't "fully intentional" - it's safe to assume that after Joe Biden engaged in environmental terrorism in regards to Russo-Germanic energy infrastructure (Nord Stream), - all oceanic energy and communication infrastructure became "fair game" for Russia/China, who will now assume it's their right to do the same without any formal declaration of war, for example - in response to US sanctions, cyber attacks believed to be coming from USA or other NATO countries, etc.

[@johnsantucci-s8b]

That's Russia training to cut their cables it's training their military to cut cables that is the 1st thing they will do in a invasion Norway should pay attention

[@cosmicgreen]

Number 2. Easy to guess, hard to prove.

[@wandacircus1667]

maybe it´s part of *starlinks* marketing strategy ;)

[@modraccin9514]

It probably isn't only an innocent research cable. At the beginning they even confessed their work can be seen as a threat.

[@dogduz]

The Norwegians are being very careful and nice with their information and views. It would seem to me an easy problem to figure out. The instant the data flow stops is know and tht should trigger sensors to then capture, via satellite, the location of what ships were in the areas of time, as can be further confirmed by maritime data.

[@roahnosh]

I'm skeptical because in business all that matters is money and when money is involved suddenly everything becomes serious and shareholders and executives starts throwing around accusations.

[@tedtimmis8135]

Aren’t we throwing stones in glass houses?

[@wacojones8062]

Russia has underwater tractors designed to cut cables in service usually from fishing type boats, but some may be deployed from submarines.

[@TheAccidentalViking]

When this first happened, I looked into exactly that.

[@cmdkaboom]

Of course they are....

[@oneilluminatus]

Anybody watched news today? (19/7/24) It’s happened again. Major cyber disruptions in many countries. Airports, financial institutions , big companies etc.

[@AlexdaCunha]

"from our neighbor country in the east" Finland? Sweden? Who might have been?? 😅

[@Whistlewalk]

As a Canadian with a family history of protecting the high Arctic, this is concerning.

[@daemon10101]

how is this a question? it was the russians. same as the rest of the sabotage

[@volcommermaid12]

I love documentaries like this 😊

[@brettrigby2226]

I think they're trying to pull them up to attach a point of attack to them. Imagine them having a way to filter all the traffic going though cables under the ocean. They could all have such devices on them already and these two are just failed attempts at doing it.

[@kiwiwelch3620]

North of norway? Russians have been known to do it before