The myth of Loki’s monstrous children - Iseult Gillespie

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Odin, the king of Asgard, was plagued by nightmares. Three fearsome figures haunted his dreams: a massive, writhing shadow; a shambling, rotting corpse; and worst of all, a monstrous beast with a deadly bite. Though their true forms were unknown to him, he could tell they were related to Asgard’s most persistent problem: Loki. Iseult Gillespie details the myth of Loki's secret children.
Lesson by Iseult Gillespie, directed by Layron DeJarnette, Gumboyo.
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@TEDEd
@TEDEd 2 жыл бұрын
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@SpinzoLynxYT
@SpinzoLynxYT 2 жыл бұрын
hi
@Human_traain
@Human_traain 2 жыл бұрын
Bye
@professordreamer8479
@professordreamer8479 2 жыл бұрын
TED-ED can you do a History On Trial of Ruhollah Khomeini.
@doctorfuntime1709
@doctorfuntime1709 2 жыл бұрын
TED-ED can you do a History On Trial of Puyi.
@pinutelbs8644
@pinutelbs8644 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@calico_queen8976
@calico_queen8976 2 жыл бұрын
I love how when people in Mythology gets prophecies that someone's gonna kill them, they do something that makes that someone have every reason to kill them.
@JoSan3
@JoSan3 2 жыл бұрын
it kinda serves to tell people that fate is fixed
@bensoncheung2801
@bensoncheung2801 2 жыл бұрын
Pfp sauce?
@jsc1jake512
@jsc1jake512 2 жыл бұрын
"One often meets his fate on the path he takes to avoid it"
@tanmaygusain1316
@tanmaygusain1316 2 жыл бұрын
It makes the story interesting ig
@sixjhontongalamar979
@sixjhontongalamar979 2 жыл бұрын
Mythos are usually told with morals to teach in mind. So if something did not go wrong on a myth, then something is wrong. also... nice pfp.
@chinesecabbagefarmer
@chinesecabbagefarmer 2 жыл бұрын
“A child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.”
@aperson6242
@aperson6242 2 жыл бұрын
The arch-illager would agree.
@vishnusolanki7792
@vishnusolanki7792 2 жыл бұрын
Naruto could have done that
@chinesecabbagefarmer
@chinesecabbagefarmer 2 жыл бұрын
@@sage4365 I believe it is an African proverb.
@chinesecabbagefarmer
@chinesecabbagefarmer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for asking.
@ummmyumm9335
@ummmyumm9335 2 жыл бұрын
@@vishnusolanki7792 oh that wld be cool villain arch tho
@jamaelwilliams8677
@jamaelwilliams8677 2 жыл бұрын
In a way this story serves as a reminder not to let fear and paranoia guide your actions
@loki2240
@loki2240 2 жыл бұрын
In another way, it suggests that our fates are sealed and free will is an illusion. 😂
@xwithoutxanyxwarningx5191
@xwithoutxanyxwarningx5191 2 жыл бұрын
@@loki2240 only if you let fear take over you, which is what happened with Odin. He could've gotten away scot free but he chose to try and stop his supposed fate when he went into it willingly. But fate isn't something someone has already written in stone, it's what you define it as. And he was so set to thinking those children are the death of him when they're not, but he turned them into his demise. Definition of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Live by the sword, die by the sword, kinda deal.
@loki2240
@loki2240 2 жыл бұрын
@@xwithoutxanyxwarningx5191 - I'm not an expert on Norse mythology. But a lot of mythology (and religion) has an end of the world story. I don't think that it makes sense to think of those stories with our conceptions of free will and alternate outcomes if the the intent of the story is to explain an end of the world scenario (much like mythology and religion have creation of the world stories). They're just stories with a predetermined goal and a predetermined outcome. I think the self-fulfilling prophecy was just an interesting twist. I don't think having Odin take a different approach would've made it so that there was no Norse end of the world story, or even no end of the world story involving some or all of those children.
@loki2240
@loki2240 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostderazgriz - Right. I know that Ragnarok is the end of Asgard and Midgard is supposed to be reborn. Ragnarok is an end of the world story, even if it's not the end of Midgard or humanity. It's the end of Asgard. My point is that, if the intent is to make up a story about the end of Asgard, that's going to be the end result of the story, no matter what the characters do.
@loki2240
@loki2240 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostderazgriz - No, it isn't a matter for believers but rather the characters themselves. Their fate was predetermined to result in their end, regardless of what they did. I don't think it makes sense to say that Odin should've taken a different approach, as if he had free will, because he didn't have free will and his end was predetermined by the intent of the story.
@JaqenHghar.
@JaqenHghar. 2 жыл бұрын
In the version I read it was a little more tragic for Tyr. He knew he was betraying his friend which is why he volunteered. He was punishing himself and when Fenrir knew he had been tricked he looked at Tyr with a sad expression and then Try gave him a nod as to let him know to bite his arm off so Fenrir did so reluctantly
@kevinteschner5839
@kevinteschner5839 2 жыл бұрын
That was Neil Geiman’s Norse Mythology, I read the same passage. It was quite heartbreaking, especially because Odin didn’t have to do this
@JaqenHghar.
@JaqenHghar. 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinteschner5839 yes sir it was. Great book
@alstroemeria2466
@alstroemeria2466 2 жыл бұрын
@@JaqenHghar. Every book by Neil Gaiman is a good read
@blue_lobsterr
@blue_lobsterr 2 жыл бұрын
@@alstroemeria2466 Yes
@JaqenHghar.
@JaqenHghar. 2 жыл бұрын
@@alstroemeria2466 he did some comics for both DC and Marvel. I've never read any but I've heard good things. So yeah, dudes legit
@overcookedcooki5285
@overcookedcooki5285 2 жыл бұрын
he let his fear create his own enemies, he won against the snake, who he could've used, Hel willing went, meaning there was no stopping him from helping/using her too, and the wolf had a deep relationship with the warrior, something that could be used as well. Thanks for all the likes, didn't think it'd get this far.
@ClassyKermit69420
@ClassyKermit69420 2 жыл бұрын
I click the 'replies' button thinking I'm gonna see some deep insight on this or even a 'yea lol' and I'm only even more disappointed in humanity
@lonelystranger7114
@lonelystranger7114 2 жыл бұрын
Yea lol
@othamneil8958
@othamneil8958 2 жыл бұрын
This feels out of character for someone like Odin. You'd think Odin would be wise enough to not challenge fate. I'd like to think that he knew he was digging his own grave, and his actions were to serve a different purpose.
@gamecokben
@gamecokben 2 жыл бұрын
@@othamneil8958 it's almost like...and forgive me, I'm just speculating...but it's almost like Odin isn't real
@ineslazaro3870
@ineslazaro3870 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamecokben (Gasp) Whaaaat? Nooooo
@Sia-kg2ux
@Sia-kg2ux 2 жыл бұрын
Odin had a rare case of self-fulfilling prophecy. None these would have happen if he didn’t act based on a dream.
@dfmunoz2422
@dfmunoz2422 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@kurtlindner
@kurtlindner 2 жыл бұрын
It would have happened, it is made clear in the actual story that Loki's children will bring ruin to Asgard. You could say it's about not being able to deny fate, with some allegory thrown in on the side, in the specific forms of Loki's children. This retelling barely skims the surface of the entire story.
@alessandrodelogu7931
@alessandrodelogu7931 2 жыл бұрын
Oedipus' story is another case. He would have never killed his own father and married his own mother if they hadn't abandoned him first.
@gary7846
@gary7846 2 жыл бұрын
this just proves you can't escape fate, even for the gods
@loki2240
@loki2240 2 жыл бұрын
Someone has never seen a Final Destination movie... 😜 But seriously, just because his actions contributed to those results - that doesn't mean that roughly the same results wouldn't have come about despite Odin taking other actions (including fundamentally different approaches). In such mythology, the world has to end somehow.
@redsparks2025
@redsparks2025 2 жыл бұрын
Three personifications of the unknown (and possibly the unknowable; the true nightmare). 1. Jörmungandr: the unknown of the unobservable world beyond one's field of sight. 2. Fenrir: the unknown of the natural world beyond one's ability to tame or control. 3. Hel: the unknown beyond one's death, the cessation of one's existence.
@theillegalseagull6838
@theillegalseagull6838 2 жыл бұрын
Well I learned something new today, cessation is a word lmao
@anirbanhasan8988
@anirbanhasan8988 Жыл бұрын
"beyond one's ability to tame or control" Tyr: *Am I am joke to you?*
@eduardodias2073
@eduardodias2073 Жыл бұрын
@@anirbanhasan8988 Odin: yes
@harlowitter3060
@harlowitter3060 Жыл бұрын
I love this analogy
@redsparks2025
@redsparks2025 Жыл бұрын
@@harlowitter3060 Thanks.
@piriyaj1347
@piriyaj1347 2 жыл бұрын
I find Fenrir’s myth quite heart-breaking. He wouldn’t have agreed to play these ‘power tests’ at all if Tyr wasn’t there. And then Tyr is the only one who volunteered to offer his arm, paying the price of betrayal to his wolf friend himself.
@bensoncheung2801
@bensoncheung2801 2 жыл бұрын
442 👍
@phousefilms
@phousefilms 2 жыл бұрын
In at least one version of the story, he says that if the gods had NOT bound him, he would have been their friend and companion and fought beside them, but now he was their enemy for all time.
@Rox123ify
@Rox123ify 2 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, when Ragnarok happens Fenrir breaks his constraints, eats Midgard (earth) whole, runs off to Asgard and kills Odin before being killed.
@captainblue5096
@captainblue5096 2 жыл бұрын
According to another comment, another version of the story says that Tyr realized what Odin had done, and volunteered himself as punishment.
@dragonova279
@dragonova279 Жыл бұрын
Honestly he should have asked for prins head to be in his mouth
@michaelweiske702
@michaelweiske702 2 жыл бұрын
Hel should not be full of fire. A burning underworld is from Greco-Roman mythology, later adopted into Christian and Muslim imagery, but the Norse underworld is exceedingly cold.
@DD-kc6hg
@DD-kc6hg 2 жыл бұрын
That is a pretty interesting concept. A cold underworld.
@acookie7548
@acookie7548 2 жыл бұрын
that’s interesting, considering the climates that the myths came from
@mrcat6433
@mrcat6433 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense that a culture that existed in Norway should be more afraid of the cold than of the heat.
@overcookedcooki5285
@overcookedcooki5285 2 жыл бұрын
interesting
@z0mbabe
@z0mbabe 2 жыл бұрын
Greek Mythology's Underworld wasn't on fire either. Heaven was also down there, after all
@KurtDaronPRivo
@KurtDaronPRivo 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that atleast Fenrir's fate could've been easily avoided by a bit more trust is quite sad, especially with the wolf's friendship with Tyr.
@jamaelwilliams8677
@jamaelwilliams8677 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah if it wasn't for his paranoia and fear all this could have been avoided
@loki2240
@loki2240 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamaelwilliams8677 - That's a common theme in Greek mythology, too.
@jamaelwilliams8677
@jamaelwilliams8677 2 жыл бұрын
@@loki2240 oh yeah the stories and myths with them or too many to count
@kurtlindner
@kurtlindner 2 жыл бұрын
No, that can only be said at the most superficial level. Like many old epics, the events that occur basically have to occur. The story illustrates, among other things, how choice can sometimes be an illusion. This retelling is so-so, but not wholly accurate taken by simply what the video showed.
@anthyavila9726
@anthyavila9726 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamaelwilliams8677 That's not how Norse mythology operates. As a kid, I used to find all the mistakes regrettable and frustrating, but the Norse put a lot of emphasis on the preordained. All of this wasn't just bound to happen, it had to happen. Ragnarok was a fate they couldn't avoid. That concept is one of the very foundations of Norse belief itself.
@l.n.3372
@l.n.3372 2 жыл бұрын
As an observer who isn't as familiar with Norse culture or mythology, I find it interesting how Odin immediately takes action against what are essentially 3 innocent "children" whose only mistake was being born to the wrong parent (Loki). Does this imply that it's ok to take preventive action before a "criminal" has even committed their supposed crime? Would it have been the same situation if they had been children of Thor? Or would Odin have given a chance to any child of Thor, but not with Loki? Fascinating topic and great animation!
@matiassu5604
@matiassu5604 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing Thor's mythology, I'd inmediately take Thor's children into custody, seeing that he is a violent drunkard, not that different from the average vikings, though considered upright by their standards (no wrong oaths and stuff).
@jkshorts4520
@jkshorts4520 2 жыл бұрын
Odin is a seer with ravens for eye balls I think he takes his visions seriously
@katarinajanoskova
@katarinajanoskova 2 жыл бұрын
Fate, predestination and preventative action is a theme of many myths, stories and philosophical enquiries. Whether it's Oedipus and his strange tale or the Euthyphro dilemma. Looks like everyone pondered these things for millennia.
@ghostderazgriz
@ghostderazgriz 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure how you got "does that mean it's ok" Preventative measures literally backfired and each of these siblings are foretold to fight the gods during Ragnorock.
@l.n.3372
@l.n.3372 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostderazgriz That's only because Odin had a vision - if he didn't, who is to say his plan backfires at all? It's the case of a self fulfilling prophecy. Without the prophecy, are the same situations still true or not.
@zur137
@zur137 2 жыл бұрын
I love how his actions created the monsters.
@mildndr
@mildndr 2 жыл бұрын
The wolves of norse mythology: Fenrir Garmr Skoll Hati
@calmnarrative
@calmnarrative 2 жыл бұрын
Villain origin stories are pretty similar.
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. Ragnarok was preordained. Norse belief is firm on this point. Prophecy, once made, is set in stone. It was always going to turn out badly for the Aesir. All Odin did was make it a personal Tragedy.
@agnibeena8069
@agnibeena8069 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bluecho4 If the prophecy was set in stone, why did they try to stop it? A genuine question as I'm not too familiar with it
@IDontReallyWantAYoutubeHandle
@IDontReallyWantAYoutubeHandle 2 жыл бұрын
@@agnibeena8069 I think the main one is that Ragnarok basically means that all of the old gods (so Thor, Loki, Odin, etc) will die. Norse Gods are a bit different from your traditional god in which they're extremely flawed, they're selfish, break their oaths, lie, cheat and are extremely human. Odin knows the prophecies and especially here it's important, since Fenrir kills Odin at the time of Ragnarok. Since he doesn't want to die, he restrains them in order to try and escape his fate, and we know how that turns out.
@fardiorin9133
@fardiorin9133 2 жыл бұрын
One small minor correction about Hel's dwelling of Helheim, it is not fiery so much that it is only a place of darkness and misery.
@chickentikka4383
@chickentikka4383 2 жыл бұрын
Is it not supposed to be extremely cold aswell?
@brunocorrea2854
@brunocorrea2854 2 жыл бұрын
@@chickentikka4383 yep yep!
@fardiorin9133
@fardiorin9133 2 жыл бұрын
@@chickentikka4383 Yes, but there's other world called Niflheim which is supposed to be the land of ice. Helheim was more like the neutral underworld, akin to Hades in Greek mythology.
@chickentikka4383
@chickentikka4383 2 жыл бұрын
@@fardiorin9133 I'll assume you're talking about Tartarus, but yeah, I get you.
@JoSan3
@JoSan3 2 жыл бұрын
@@chickentikka4383 tartarus is an even deeper realm beyond hades/erebus reserved for the damned. The neutral underworld where the dead resides is hades/erebus
@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319
@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319 2 жыл бұрын
I've always felt sorry for Fenrir. He only wanted to be accepted and respected by the Aesir, which was why he kept accepting chains just to show off how strong he was before the Gods. But of course that's the tragedy of his story. Had Odin not been such a paranoid wreck, Fenrir would not have had any reason to resent the Gods.
@stainshield
@stainshield Жыл бұрын
Yes, because he felt betrayed.
@WolfDragon-iz7wq
@WolfDragon-iz7wq 2 жыл бұрын
One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it. -Master Oogway
@ultracommander8368
@ultracommander8368 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir, master oogway is a lot more wise
@DD-kc6hg
@DD-kc6hg 2 жыл бұрын
Gods: *Aren't able to do something* Dwarves : Hold our Beer.
@macmacbrazze3234
@macmacbrazze3234 2 жыл бұрын
I can almost imagine their site filled with testimonials by various gods LOL
@that1cat999
@that1cat999 2 жыл бұрын
All twelve trillion casks of it.
@rzl-ci1jj
@rzl-ci1jj 2 жыл бұрын
for those who were wondering: -jormungandr continued to circle the earth, and when it let go, Ragnarök would start. In one encounter, Thor fishes for Jormungand, and fails to pull him up only when the giant Hymir, terrified that this will bring about Ragnarök, severs the line, sending the snake back down to the depths. -fenrir, in another version of the myth, devours the sun and fights Odin head on during Ragnarök, which he won by swallowing Odin whole. He was later killed by Odin's son Vidar, the god of vengeance -hel. i wasnt able to find much relating to hel, but we can assume she either died in the battle of Ragnarök or stayed in hel
@richardkurniawan6066
@richardkurniawan6066 2 жыл бұрын
he double hockey sticks
@willemvandebeek
@willemvandebeek 2 жыл бұрын
Fenrir's sons Sköll & Hati will swallow the Sun & Moon respectively.....
@gamecokben
@gamecokben 2 жыл бұрын
And then the cycle restarts
@mildndr
@mildndr 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: many norse people believe that Fenrir is the father of another two giant wolves from norse mythology: skoll and hati
@ManSeekingMeaning
@ManSeekingMeaning 2 жыл бұрын
Vidar, or Vitharr, doesn’t get enough love.
@thewingedhussar4188
@thewingedhussar4188 2 жыл бұрын
The only inaccurate thing in this video IS the fact Norse Hel was actually cold/mild. Depending on your role in life. If you were just a normal person who died. Hel was just a regular place, similar to our world. Mild, temperate, etc. The cold parts of Hel was Hel's home/hall and where the really bad people were sent. The really cold and dark places.
@citra1885
@citra1885 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really know anything about Hel, but she hasn't done anything wrong right? So why was she even sent into the coldest place? Or maybe she had done something awful
@freezaaaa
@freezaaaa 2 жыл бұрын
@@citra1885 i think it was becuse she is daughter of loki and half skelaton
@Ullish1989
@Ullish1989 2 жыл бұрын
And Odin has two eyes in this
@scrungozeclown836
@scrungozeclown836 Жыл бұрын
@@citra1885 to be fair, the coldest place would be Niflheim, literally the home of the primordial cold
@Akash-cy2xv
@Akash-cy2xv 2 жыл бұрын
1:51 Its actually funny how cute that is
@leeks1408
@leeks1408 2 жыл бұрын
Really makes you feel for the characters you thought were bad guys but were really the victims. Like the live action Maleficent film. I was always fascinated by Jormangandr
@Mars-ef8of
@Mars-ef8of 2 жыл бұрын
The animation and narration quality just gets better Ted-Ed! Good job
@ojeshk.c.6744
@ojeshk.c.6744 2 жыл бұрын
Stop. It was uploaded 3 minutes ago, and the video is 6 minutes long
@Mars-ef8of
@Mars-ef8of 2 жыл бұрын
@@ojeshk.c.6744 it was a first glance Bruh
@theautisticintrovertedluca3634
@theautisticintrovertedluca3634 2 жыл бұрын
Thoses who try to prevent profocies often seal their own doom
@elTacoManiac
@elTacoManiac Жыл бұрын
Right? I really liked translating it to Portuguese
@krishnakumarverma4115
@krishnakumarverma4115 2 жыл бұрын
'The dwarfs' always got something extraordinary! 😇
@alphabetboy8569
@alphabetboy8569 2 жыл бұрын
In other tales, Hel was promoted to become the Queen of the Dead, she was described as Cold but Just, in Baldr's Death, when Baldr's Mother, Frigg, asked Hel to return her late Son's soul to the living world, Hel agreed but only if every living thing weep and mourn over his death, something that didn't happen because Loki, her father, sabotaged Friggs plan by not mourning the late god, because it was a closed deal, Hel kept Baldr's soul safe until the End of Ragnarok as he'll be resurrected.
@ZOCCOK
@ZOCCOK 2 жыл бұрын
I respect that Loki was able to satisfy a Giantess despite being average sized. Truly a person to get inspired from 🙏
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 2 жыл бұрын
Well he's a shape-shifter. I mean, he got f-ed by a stallion.
@flossbrunn
@flossbrunn 2 жыл бұрын
The jötnar are not necessarily very huge
@spiderham5514
@spiderham5514 Жыл бұрын
@@flossbrunn they can be though
@spaghettimaghetti5042
@spaghettimaghetti5042 Жыл бұрын
Actually giants aren’t what you think it is half of the giants are the size of an average human
@Minetendo_Fan
@Minetendo_Fan 9 ай бұрын
Proof that size doesn't matter
@Mailliweer
@Mailliweer 2 жыл бұрын
I am immediately reminded of an Oogway quote, "One often meets their fate after taking the path to avoid it". Odin, through his paranoia created the enemies from his nightmares.
@ouchandgamesandmoreouch9662
@ouchandgamesandmoreouch9662 2 жыл бұрын
The message of the story: If you see a prophecy of troubles, don't do anything about it. You'll just end up fulfilling it.
@someguy7723
@someguy7723 2 жыл бұрын
Its about fear and not giving in to unrational fear and paranioa. Alot of these norse storys were children storys for when everyone sat inside during the long winter. They always has some sorth of lesson to them.
@SirThopas3
@SirThopas3 2 жыл бұрын
@@someguy7723 What lesson were the Norse trying to teach when they talked about Loki tying one end of a rope around his balls and the other end around a goat?
@IlNamelessKinglI
@IlNamelessKinglI 2 жыл бұрын
@@SirThopas3 Is that a story? For real? Lmao
@someguy7723
@someguy7723 2 жыл бұрын
@@SirThopas3 that reading to much about CBT on wikipedia can lead to dangures things
@SirThopas3
@SirThopas3 2 жыл бұрын
@@IlNamelessKinglI Oh yeah, lol, Loki is trying to make someone laugh and this is what he does.
@quark1243
@quark1243 2 жыл бұрын
"👹...inching ever closer to his bloody revenge👹👹👹👹👹👹. For more stories about children being underestimated....😊😊" Dam that made me laugh (5:30)
@basantatamang2249
@basantatamang2249 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@blacktiger2154
@blacktiger2154 Жыл бұрын
Baby Fenrir is literally the cutest little thing ever!
@00corin00
@00corin00 2 жыл бұрын
Odin should be missing an eye. I love these videos! Keep the Norse mythology coming! Please!!!!!!
@lukemitchell5470
@lukemitchell5470 2 жыл бұрын
Odin lost his eye when he sacrificed it to drink from Mimir's well (The Well of Urd), so that he could gain cosmic wisdom. Given that his actions in this tale are very unwise, this could have happened before that.
@TalonInTx
@TalonInTx 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukemitchell5470 given that losing his eye didn't reveal to him that these three would bring about Ragnarok and how to stop them, he clearly got ripped off for the "cosmic wisdom".
@nathangraham2952
@nathangraham2952 Жыл бұрын
This seemed to have occurred before Odin became wise
@DiracComb.7585
@DiracComb.7585 2 жыл бұрын
“One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it.” - Master Oogway
@jamaelwilliams8677
@jamaelwilliams8677 2 жыл бұрын
Truer words were never spoken
@jamaelwilliams8677
@jamaelwilliams8677 2 жыл бұрын
this could have been avoided if he wasn't so fearful and paranoid
@Thermopylae66
@Thermopylae66 2 жыл бұрын
*cough cough* Oedipus
@gamecokben
@gamecokben 2 жыл бұрын
By definition fate can't be avoided
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamecokben Tell that most of Asian myths.
@f.santyabudi
@f.santyabudi 2 жыл бұрын
MY GOD, that ending makes me goosebumps! What a masterpiece ❤️ Edit: what makes me goosebumps, when the narrator could pass the feeling of hatred and something worse will be happened is the best part of this video
@panda_invention1810
@panda_invention1810 2 жыл бұрын
😭
@ennui9745
@ennui9745 2 жыл бұрын
@@rondoletti-1454 ???
@theodatheomall1074
@theodatheomall1074 Жыл бұрын
Part 2
@pinutelbs8644
@pinutelbs8644 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Fenrir is actually In the movie of thor Ragnarok. he's Hella's dog, Bit is actually referred to as "Fenris" in the movie
@szymonpinkowski256
@szymonpinkowski256 2 жыл бұрын
Its diffrenet dog
@enlongjones2394
@enlongjones2394 2 жыл бұрын
@@szymonpinkowski256 actually no. “Fenrisúlfr” (Fenris Wolf) is another name by which Fenrir is known.
@pinutelbs8644
@pinutelbs8644 2 жыл бұрын
@@szymonpinkowski256 its the same
@matze9201
@matze9201 2 жыл бұрын
In the movie Fenrir is Hella's dog. But in mythology Garm is Hella's dog and the guardian of the gates of Helheim.
@pinutelbs8644
@pinutelbs8644 2 жыл бұрын
@@matze9201 true
@cramerfloro5936
@cramerfloro5936 2 жыл бұрын
4:37 top 10 anime betrayals
@hycamtro1aegirsson128
@hycamtro1aegirsson128 2 жыл бұрын
wasn't Hela asked to rule Helheim, because she had a strong affiliation with death and also she knew better than the other gods?
2 жыл бұрын
Some says that is the kind of excuse they used to send her there. Either way, Hel is willing to go with it.
@jarvis6253
@jarvis6253 2 жыл бұрын
1:44 little did he know this wolf was bound to cause the end of the world
@Wolfy-Edits
@Wolfy-Edits Жыл бұрын
BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
@austin8991
@austin8991 2 жыл бұрын
1:36 what an anticlimax😂 I enjoyed the video, thank you👍
@micuhh
@micuhh 2 жыл бұрын
what if Fenrir was just, trying to live? what if he wasnt going to turn into the beast he became unless he was provoked by Tyr to do so?
@Ay0godd
@Ay0godd 2 жыл бұрын
That's the whole point of the story I feel like, the girl and the wolf could have just been nurtured into somewhat harmless creatures you have to be careful around, of course the snake had to be killed (but for some reason wasn't), but the way they handled everything just made their existing problem 10x worse.
@micuhh
@micuhh 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ay0goddyeah lmao
@kurtlindner
@kurtlindner 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Ay0godd No, this version barely skims the surface of the actual story. It is made clear that Loki's children will bring ruin to Asgard, there is no salvation for Hel or Jormungandr, and Fenrir's loyalty was primarily to Tyr alone. It's better viewed as an allegory for, "What if you tried to keep a wild wolf as a pet," "What if you've got someone with leperosy hanging around," "what if you've got someone you know is going to stab you in the back." Also, Loki's children are all loyal to their Father, and there is basically no redemption for Loki by his own deeds.
@for_kl.5574
@for_kl.5574 2 жыл бұрын
@@kurtlindner But isn't that like it was fate they would ruin Asgard because the deeds Odin had done and it was also fate that Odin dreamt about them and thought they would destroy Asgard so he did all that which truly turned the children into real dangers? At the end it was all thanks to him. It could have gone other ways.
@kurtlindner
@kurtlindner 2 жыл бұрын
​@@for_kl.5574 No, it didn't matter what happened, the result had nothing to do with how it came to pass; the result is the prophecy. TED screwed up the story in their presentation, Odin's dreams weren't the cause of Ragnarok, Ragnarok was always going to ordained. Had Odin done nothing, the same end would come to pass. You should look into the actual story. Also, the perspective you're asserting, while it sounds perfectly reasonable to you or me, or most people of this era, that same is not necessarily true for people of other times in history, essentially it's viewing history through a histrocentric perspective. Interpreting ancient stories by our own worldview yields many problems in the same way as if one reads a story written in French from an English speaking perspective -everything is gibberish. You must at the very least translate the text or better yet, read the text in French; and the same is true of ancient stories. To properly interpret ancient stories like we must start from the perspective of the people and culture from whence the work comes if we want to truly understand it.
@kirbymarchbarcena
@kirbymarchbarcena 2 жыл бұрын
Despite having gained knowledge and wisdom, Odin unwittingly created his own nightmares.
@kevinobill4818
@kevinobill4818 2 жыл бұрын
In Norse, Jormungandr is my favorite mythical figure. Seeing Tyr played with Fenrir in a friendly way makes me warm my heart
@tmmny
@tmmny 2 жыл бұрын
I know you guys kept some stuff out of the story to keep it short but there are some key things left out. Odin challenged Fenrir with the promise that if he couldn't free himself from the chain he would be freed. to make sure this would happen he asked that one of the gods put his arm in his mouth and no god would because they knew what would happen and they didn't want to loose an arm. so finally tyr did and lost his arm in the process. I know it's small but the promise of Odin that he would let him free is the crucial point of Fenrirs story. edit: there are a lot of variations of hel ( in the Poetic Edda it's more of a place and in the Prose Edda it's Loki's daughter ) but they all say that odin tasked hel to guide the souls and rule over the underworld. the main thing is hel's story is that she can't leave.. well until Ragnarök. there is no mention as far as I know in any Edda that she conquered the underworld.
@kyleoliver5783
@kyleoliver5783 2 жыл бұрын
These myths are my favourite type of TED-ED videos. The quality of the animation and narration for them are just fantastic! Please make more myth and lore videos!
@lamontthomas3972
@lamontthomas3972 2 жыл бұрын
5:37 "For more tales of children being ignored and underestimated..." 😂🥴
@michaelnelson2976
@michaelnelson2976 2 жыл бұрын
I really love and appreciate that the video wrapped all the way around to show how Odin just hurt himself so much over this. Poor All-Father and his unwilling victims...
@aidanrogers4438
@aidanrogers4438 2 жыл бұрын
The animation is on point for this episode! And I never thought Fenrir the Wolf could be made to look so cute.
@LordOmnissiah
@LordOmnissiah 2 жыл бұрын
And now we have the motivation for Loki playing the trick that killed Baldr. He wanted revenge for what the gods did to his kids.
@jessicadecuir5622
@jessicadecuir5622 10 ай бұрын
Loki: You take my pride and joy? I’ll return the favor…
@QuestionEverythingButWHY
@QuestionEverythingButWHY 2 жыл бұрын
“Someday you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again.” ― C.S. Lewis
@cottykerridge1082
@cottykerridge1082 2 жыл бұрын
Love this! One thing to make it even better would be for Odin to be depicted as one eyed, especially as he is foreseeing his doom!
@kathanprajapati8956
@kathanprajapati8956 2 жыл бұрын
Stan lee on reading Norse mythology be like: 'No, this is too disturbing for the audience.'
@NikhilSingh-ei2ft
@NikhilSingh-ei2ft Жыл бұрын
The voice over of this episode was just phenomenal
@carolgaysanchez8287
@carolgaysanchez8287 2 жыл бұрын
Fenrir : Trying to act scary Tyr : Lol let me put you on pocket
@SayStats
@SayStats 2 жыл бұрын
We already saw Hela (as Thor’s elder sister) and Fenris (as Hela’s pet?) in “Thor Ragnarok”. So we are yet to see the serpent Jormungandr in the MCU (Maybe in “Thor: Love and Thunder”?). Can’t wait!
@DD-kc6hg
@DD-kc6hg 2 жыл бұрын
Release Fenrir he didn't do anything wrong.
@denizmergen418
@denizmergen418 2 жыл бұрын
so did the other 2
@KakashHatak3
@KakashHatak3 2 жыл бұрын
None of them did but Odin doesn't really care.
@iamgreatalwaysgreat8209
@iamgreatalwaysgreat8209 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats cruel.
@VoidKing666
@VoidKing666 2 жыл бұрын
True, except if you released him now it would cause Ragnorok, aka doomsday.
@deadlydingus1138
@deadlydingus1138 2 жыл бұрын
@@VoidKing666 Have seen the world lately?
@TheRealDominikVinko
@TheRealDominikVinko 2 жыл бұрын
Love the norse mythology videos! They are my favorites on this channel by far! Hope you continue making more! Keep up the good work ❤️
@klaystels6559
@klaystels6559 Жыл бұрын
this story is the embodiment of the quote, “one often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it”
@yeshaswiniparvatham5474
@yeshaswiniparvatham5474 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a part 2 to this myth? Would love to watch the next one!!
@fictionfan0
@fictionfan0 2 жыл бұрын
Only if you consider Ragnarok to be the long-awaited sequel.
@1995pieter
@1995pieter 2 жыл бұрын
sure, the end of the world
@B00Radl33
@B00Radl33 2 жыл бұрын
Neil Gaiman wrote a book on the whole subject. Best version I ever found. A lot happens next.
@Sienisota
@Sienisota 2 жыл бұрын
As a revenge for what Odin did to Loki's children, Loki plays a (maybe accidentally) deadly prank on one of Odin's children. Odin kill's Loki's 2 human/Aesir looking sons, and binds Loki to a rock, in a cave, using THE ENTRAILS OF LOKI'S SON. Odin puts a serpent over Loki, that drips painful poison on Loki. Loki's wife is left with him. With a bowl to collect the poison, but at times she has to take the bowl away to empty it. When Loki's wife takes the bowl away, Loki's screams and struggles against the entrails of their son, causing earthquakes. The day Loki is freed/ gets free, is the day his "monster" children are freed, and together they will get vengeance by attacking Odin and the Aesir, for treating them horribly. All will die in the process except young children of some Aesir. Those children will restart the cycle of creation.
@michaeliv284
@michaeliv284 4 ай бұрын
Aside from Ragnarok, the only things that can be part two are bit parts; Thor went fishing with Tyr's dad and pulled up Jormungandr early. And when Baldr died, Hel would only give him back if everything in the realms wept for him.
@CinderellaSequeira
@CinderellaSequeira 2 жыл бұрын
The narrator and animation are extraordinary!!!!
@beizanten1
@beizanten1 Жыл бұрын
i feel sorry for loki children. great story
@carpediemalt
@carpediemalt 9 ай бұрын
First time I hear this, wow; they should turn this into a movie
@ladyfire44
@ladyfire44 2 жыл бұрын
Fenrir, I felt bad for. Tyr and him had a good friendship. Odin should've seen this instead of living with his paranoia. Maybe he would've know that Fenrir wasn't a threat and kept him around
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 2 жыл бұрын
excellent voice acting, moreso than I'm used to. I've seen many retellings of these 3, but this one is one of the best you'd make a good DM for a tabletop game
@heyheyheye7256
@heyheyheye7256 2 жыл бұрын
Amazingly explained with a bit of lore,suspense and well written setting.I’m sure that anyone would want to watch or read the end of this entire journey
@1weck1
@1weck1 Жыл бұрын
Glad I saw this video. Recently in life, I’ve found that a lot of my anxieties and worries are self fulfilling to a point. The anxiety and worry makes me act poorly in a otherwise normal situation, and I’m glad I saw this video as a relatable message to worry less and avoid paranoia.
@ayaehab
@ayaehab 2 жыл бұрын
I love this bit in Gaiman's Norse Mythology, his voice rings in my ears as I hear it here too. There are bits that are different also (hel was merely a child in Gaiman's version) , maybe due to the videos length or else, it's gorgeous nevertheless
@shafinnahian75
@shafinnahian75 2 жыл бұрын
Man Loki's family has issues
@VoidKing666
@VoidKing666 2 жыл бұрын
They’re gods. What do you expect?
@jamaelwilliams8677
@jamaelwilliams8677 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel as though all of this could have been avoided if Odin wasn't so fearful and paranoid fenrir in the others🤷🏾
@HalgaDoy
@HalgaDoy 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to be a recurrent theme in nordic mythology. Afaik, Ragnarok begins with Friggs (Odins wife) paranoia from a dream.
@noodleexpanding3407
@noodleexpanding3407 2 жыл бұрын
@@HalgaDoy This is just not true
@rowanrooks
@rowanrooks 2 жыл бұрын
This was so cool. I only wish that the animations used the mythological appearances of the gods instead of the traits from MCU.
@veronicapiccinini7956
@veronicapiccinini7956 2 жыл бұрын
Talk about Self Fulfilling Prophecy. His attempts to avert his fate by mistreating Loki’s spawn led to the destruction of the world and the deaths of many gods, known as Ragnarok. In their defense, Loki’ children have very good reasons to hate them, 1) The snake (I can’t write his name, sorry) was acting in self defense and they throw him into the sea 2) They give Hela a thankless job and people were afraid of her because of her appearance; 3) Fenrir was betrayed by the gods, even by his best friend
@bernardsoul5186
@bernardsoul5186 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to hear more about the children's conception. How did Loki get it on with the giantess?
@macmacbrazze3234
@macmacbrazze3234 2 жыл бұрын
Same way he got f'ed by a stallion and gave birth to Odin's horse.
@B00Radl33
@B00Radl33 2 жыл бұрын
Loki is at least part giant himself, and an experienced shape shifter. Not really a problem for him.
@Human_traain
@Human_traain 2 жыл бұрын
Loki is such a interesting god
@DD-kc6hg
@DD-kc6hg 2 жыл бұрын
He is responsible for birthing Odin's horse Sleipnir.
@avaneeshjadhav255
@avaneeshjadhav255 2 жыл бұрын
Loki carrying the entire norse mythology
@StarBoundFables
@StarBoundFables Жыл бұрын
The art in this myth video was astounding 😃 Thanks for sharing this with us all 🙏🏽
@maryati6088
@maryati6088 2 жыл бұрын
Ted-Ed never fail to entertain with good narration,animation and music
@Gaga682
@Gaga682 2 жыл бұрын
What Odin feared became a reality trough his own actions. He created his own enemies for Ragnarok. Like Zeus in videogame created Kratos, his own doom. Pretty very strange actions coming from a wisest Nordic God that let it fear guide him.
@sensennsen
@sensennsen Жыл бұрын
Odin was obsessed with the prophecy of Ragnarok. Not only was he consumed by paranoia but also by obsession.
@vladtheimpaler9577
@vladtheimpaler9577 2 жыл бұрын
Fenrir had an inherent cruelty to him but deep down he wanted to be accepted by the gods as part of their family. But Odin and the others out of fear treated him like a monster and so he became one. A self fulfilling prophecy.
@aeydra
@aeydra 2 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing lesson, fantastic animation and great narration 👏💕
@Hmmmmmmmmm....
@Hmmmmmmmmm.... 2 жыл бұрын
I loved mythologies and how they are so eager to prevent the prophecies by dealing with them which is the first step on how the prophecy can come true...is this some sort of an ancient paradox
@theashapeshift
@theashapeshift 2 жыл бұрын
3:44 I like the little noise added to fish breath
@kurtlindner
@kurtlindner 2 жыл бұрын
Tyr looks more like Thor than Thor.
@DaneInTheUS
@DaneInTheUS 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! But I'm puzzled why your Odin still had both eyes? Fenrirs story has always made me sad. It's the ultimate betrayal from the only aesir that trusted Fenrir (and vice versa)
@ericpachuau2038
@ericpachuau2038 2 жыл бұрын
Part 2 highly recommended.. I don't usually coment but this animation and the story line is perfect highly recommemd part 2 🙏
@lunad2595
@lunad2595 9 ай бұрын
I once heard someone saying that Loki probably killed Frigg's son Baldr because seeing how every living being took an oath to never harm him and how they had treated his children made him angry.
@unlinedphoton7965
@unlinedphoton7965 2 жыл бұрын
amazing animation but one key detail you missed is that odin should have only 1 eye at this point in time
@tirthankarmishra1420
@tirthankarmishra1420 2 жыл бұрын
This Thor almost looks like mcu's Thor. Loki has the resemblance too
@VoidKing666
@VoidKing666 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I feel like someone just finished the first few marvel movies.
@fr0styboy
@fr0styboy 2 жыл бұрын
@@VoidKing666 no, the animator chose this art style because a good chunk of people will be able to relate to it.
@VoidKing666
@VoidKing666 2 жыл бұрын
@@fr0styboy I agrée! I was trying to make a joke, and I’m sorry it didn’t come through.
@HalgaDoy
@HalgaDoy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting a bit tired of this version of Thor. He's supposed to be fierce eyed with red beard and hair.
@rolandreeves8818
@rolandreeves8818 2 жыл бұрын
My man Fenrir was innocent bro😭
@starlightoverlordofninjago6172
@starlightoverlordofninjago6172 2 жыл бұрын
I love myths so much I listen to them everyday, THEY ARE SO FASCINATING!!
@HakunaMatata-zn7it
@HakunaMatata-zn7it 2 жыл бұрын
This is soooo captivating! Loved it all the way *---*
@subhangimaity904
@subhangimaity904 2 жыл бұрын
As always , let's just appreciate the animation for a moment...
@video-warehouse-s8973
@video-warehouse-s8973 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, 0:47 is the first animated portrayal of Loki's wife Sigyn, and the only I've ever seen of their sons.
@ahmedrazashibli8743
@ahmedrazashibli8743 2 жыл бұрын
It's so intresting to see a new figure as loki in every ted video
@InfernalLeo777
@InfernalLeo777 2 жыл бұрын
This one looks like a creep tho
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 2 жыл бұрын
@@InfernalLeo777 Loki IS a creep! He delights in the suffering of others, seeing it as humorous!
@itsDhiran
@itsDhiran Жыл бұрын
This is the perfect example of " One often meets his destiny on the way he takes to avoid it"
@csgoskins1653
@csgoskins1653 Жыл бұрын
Kratos did say that trying to avoid a prophecy might cause it.
@whoamI-tl3fv
@whoamI-tl3fv 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to make a request, I would love to hear about writer and journalist Clarice Lispector. She really writes with love, attention, affection and her works are simply beautiful.
@fauxvier8519
@fauxvier8519 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the continuation of this!
@bnew5394
@bnew5394 2 жыл бұрын
Please consider making a playlist for all of your Norse videos & even a Greek Mythology one, too! These are wonderful!! Thank you!
@potattomat5028
@potattomat5028 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the playlist is called "Myths around the world"
@7ANKOUCH
@7ANKOUCH 2 жыл бұрын
a really cool story . i love ted's way of story telling
@TheRevanchrist
@TheRevanchrist 2 жыл бұрын
as one wise turtle once said, "One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it."
@SF-li9kh
@SF-li9kh 2 жыл бұрын
Such wonderful narration. Loved it.
@youknowho4439
@youknowho4439 2 жыл бұрын
"Oh, I love Loki. He's such a good character." His daughter's name is literally Hel. "So?" Okay, that's it.
@1995pieter
@1995pieter 2 жыл бұрын
christains stole or "appropiated" Hel for their own. same with easter, daemons etc.
@youknowho4439
@youknowho4439 2 жыл бұрын
@@1995pieter Really? How?
@steventheamazing762
@steventheamazing762 2 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but I recall that Fenrir was actually the oldest, followed by Jörmungandr and Hel. Again this could be meant for interpretation on different sources but that's my head cannon for them. Although I don't know what place Sleipnir is for Loki's children.
@michaeliv284
@michaeliv284 4 ай бұрын
I think he'd be eldist as his myth included Asgard being early in development, considering the lack of walls
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