The Nearly IMPOSSIBLE Enigma Puzzle!!

[@maisiesummers42]

Hanayama: We think this puzzle is difficult. Chris: lol. (90 minutes later) Chris: This puzzle has broken me.

[@CzyJoe666]

wait I think I've got it.... ::takes it back apart:: nope!

[@atisstikans1475]

@@CzyJoe666 Never laughed so hard at one of his videos

[@vfrouw]

Yep, still fun watching you solving this puzzle. Wat een gefrutsel. Is Dutch! Lol.

[@keithrenaud5107]

Hold my beer lol

[@3goats1coat]

Saw the puzzle (have it myself), came to watch him fail! Was entertained, new sub

[@endymion7585]

Enigma puzzle: I’m nearly impossible Excalibur puzzle: Am I a joke to you?

[@mfmaximus8603]

Oh wow, haven't heard THIS comment on literally every other video I watch daily...

[@endymion7585]

MFMaximusStudios People talk about the enigma and Excalibur puzzle daily? Huh, that’s a weird comment

[@mathioudrui4557]

Thor Hammer : metal can melt too...

[@StormTheSquid]

I mean he hasn't solved either of them so

[@blueghostlight7521]

reminds me of tangled keys on a keyring, when one or two miraculously made their way through the keyring - in my pocket

[@N1ZE_gaming]

I would appreciate a 'my top 3 puzzles' video, in which you show your favorite puzzles or your hardest puzzles!

[@programthis3805]

i would watch a top 10

[@turnedagainst]

Excalibur is def in the top 3 hardest lol

[@FnafFreakForLifexoxo]

I got this about 4 years ago. Beat it when i woke up at 4 in the morning , put it back together, and was never able to do it again ;~;

[@fluffybear1539]

SkyHeartsEverything they have a video on how to solve this one

[@stijnjanssens571]

I got the puzle for christmas a few jears ago, but I coudn't take it appart (and kind of rage quit). So my dad got a new toy for christmas and I got pleasure in watching my dad get frustrated for 3 hours. We all had a great time.

[@andrewfoss728]

This was one of the first puzzles I ever purchased. It took me a long time to figure it out, but now that I know how to do it I can take it apart and put it back together in like 2 mins

[@EctobiusRex]

The same happened to me with equa

[@vitamin..e]

I dissassamble it at like 11/11:30 PM ,2 weeks after I bought it, then I try to reassemble it but after an hour and a half, I was crying my life on my bed because I cannot put it together (and I was freakin tired). I solve it the next morning within a minute. Moral of the story, make sure you're relax and not distract (emotions and tiredness are dsitractions)

[@kenx752]

Every time I see a metal puzzle like this I just think, someone somewhere has the job of putting these metal pieces together all day long....

[@andie4464]

There’s also the job of checking if the puzzle is quality and works so they can sell it

[@nushur]

I admire how you can diligently and patiently keep working at things for a long period of time without any progress. There's life lessons to be learned there. Your videos are also clean and your contents are sharp which is very hard to find. I'm glad I found you. Subscribed.

[@ravonix9018]

This was the first puzzle I ever received, as a child for Christmas. I can't believe I missed this upload but it was so satisfying to see you complete it. Especially seeing someone who knows their way around puzzles struggle as much as I did. Thanks, Chris. This really meant a lot to me.

[@nij7074]

Ok but the real puzzle is can u put my life back together ?

[@midnight_speed8642]

I love your profile pic man! I love Tom and Jerry! :D

[@trinkab]

Mine next!

[@MDSF90]

I don’t think even Penn and Teller can pull that off…

[@valerie3836]

Could at least give a recommendation on where to trade or get a new one right?

[@nij7074]

@@MDSF90 Time to call the big guns... Criss Angel

[@iamthefoodtruckjunkie]

So glad I stumbled across this channel while I helping upload videos to my buddy's channel. I actually dug up some of my old decks (even ordered a couple more) to reignite that spark I had for close up. Thank you, Chris!

[@DFAULT-qn3px]

I always love the music you choose, and the fact of how soothing your voice is.

[@speechlessmakeup]

Love your videos. Your camera work, content, personality. A lot of love.

[@cyborgstar]

You can really tell he puts a lot of time into making sure each video is the best it can be.

[@kizzer802]

I've completed it once and then promptly forgot how and haven't gone back since. Happy solving!

[@alarcatm1694]

I got this for my birthday in 2017. It came in a different wrapping so i wouldnt be able to see the price on the box, took the puzzle apart, and forgot what it looked like beforehand. I never knew the name of it, and searching “brass puzzle” only gets you so far. Paused it at the very beginning, and put it back together. It now sits proudly at my desk. Thanks!

[@giulianogisotti4107]

I said it before, I'll said it again. I love your whole aesthetic, your humor and your magic - I just lately discovered your puzzles too. You have style, Chris.

[@float32]

Giuliano Gisotti, it’s not style, he’s an artist.

[@fostergilchrist6866]

Chris I have no words to explain how much I love your videos, keep up the good work!

[@bigjimslim]

“The inner machinations of my mind are and enigma” *milk spills*

[@ashtonm.9055]

Eamon Mott same lol

[@Skoot34]

I’m a Starfish and my name is Patrick

[@ottokyed7017]

Jimboslice do listen to Amon amarth 🤘🏻🤘🏻🎶🎵

[@bigjimslim]

otto kyed 🤘 hell yeah

[@zammyinc]

Chris, I have been watching your videos for the last year I think, and I keep on getting gems like this recommended to me on KZbin that are older. I am so happy you had so much "fun" with this puzzle. I got this puzzle like 4 years ago or something as a present from my wife at the time. I played with it for HOURS! I am sincerely ear to ear grinning at your experience with it. Thank you so much for this video! P.S. You're a mastermind. Keep up the amazing content.

[@jacksong8748]

"They could have just given me these two pieces." I just bought this puzzle yesterday, and got it today. I took it apart in about the same time as you, probably a little longer, but I felt the EXACT same with those last two pieces. As I was taking it apart I was memorizing how to redo what I had done every step of the way, and then all of a sudden... I made progress and COULD NOT undo it... and after solving it the rest of the way, I am currently stuck at the same place you are at the end of this video, trying to switch the order of the two dangling pieces.

[@ryanrosencranz9006]

Chris I started puzzles about a year ago because of you! I decided to purchase 10 Hanayama puzzles of various difficulties. The Enigma was 1 of them.......it hurt my brain. Now a year later I finally get to watch someone else suffer as much as me. Thank you for that now I feel better!

[@dapperdragons7314]

This is one of my favorite Hanayama puzzles. And it took me MUCH longer to put it together than it did to take it apart. If you don’t put the pieces back in the EXACT way and order you removed then it won’t go back to its original position. It’s an amazing puzzle though and it’s fun to fiddle with once you’ve solved it a few times. Believe it or not though, there are a few puzzles by hanayama that are even harder, in my opinion. Quartet? I gave up on that one a LONG time ago...

[@kellaviietee]

Great video! I got this puzzle for the Christmas few years ago and it was nice surprise to see that in your video. I spent more than a week fiddling with it. Family hated me, but I needed to get it solved and back together. Hypnotizing. For me it also took less time to solve it than to put it back together. So all these are very familiar feelings and made me laugh hard :)

[@myrtodinaki6251]

Seriously I'm obsessed with your puzzle videos lately if I don't pass my exams you are the reason just to know😂

[@vic_cresss]

Same here 😂

[@LouisAyy]

Same😂

[@sebastianstanciu9998]

Check out Mr.Puzzle too :)

[@Luke-A]

7 months later any updates on your exams? Hope you did well

[@snukie73]

12:00 I love that point in the process, I got stuck for quite a while on mine until just the right leverage popped mine free almost the same way. Mine bound up just enough to think you were going to have to force it, but then it’s just slips past with a tiny squeeze.

[@pwzee7509]

“They could’ve just given me these two pieces” LMFAOOOOOO

[@jakesanders3654]

I don’t watch to get “into” the puzzles. I watch for the impending win, the intricate puzzle solving and you getting frustrated but power through til it’s beaten. Just saying, your one of my favorite to watch and I could spend a couple of hours just watching. Love what you do bro @Chris Ramsay

[@CackleCackleHehehe]

I, too, have lost much time to this puzzle... I keep it in my party bag. It's great watching others suffer with this deceptive li'l puzzle that presents with "just three pieces that you take apart!" ... The difficulty creeps up quick with the seeming limited few moves, and two hours later they'll looking up, huff, work out a neck cramp, and throw it back to me... [= Enjoyed the vid

[@ABC-ft4jq]

As a novice I purchased this puzzle last week. I mess with it every day and I am stuck at the exact same point. Makes feel me a lot better. Really enjoy the channel.

[@imperator2107]

This is one of my favorite puzzles I own it took me 3 hours to solve but it is so satisfying to finish

[@andrewfoss728]

This was one of my first puzzles I ever purchased and it's definitely as difficult as it's been described. Anyways, as difficult as this puzzle is, it's become one of my favorites of all time. The thing that makes the end of this puzzle different than most hanayama puzzles is that the very last move actually does require a slight but of force.

[@100recyclable7]

Chris: wensday puzzle day Chris: gets timer Timer: ah sh*t here we go again

[@sunchipsftw]

Timer: "one of the first times not forgetting me huh?" Burger King: "one of my first times spelling"

[@UncleTacoBell]

I watch these videos and sometimes I want to scream “try this move” and by the time I get to that point, you usually do that move. And 90% of the time my thought never works. And other times, I just wish I could grab that puzzle and try myself. Although these videos are super awesome and relaxing, sometimes I get myself worked up trying not to yell in frustration. Haha. I guess that’s the control freak in me. Anyhow, love the videos. Can’t get enough of the puzzle and tutorial vids.

[@Xammed]

Ohhh I have this one! I loved it. This was my first puzzle. As soon as I saw you get the first piece out I cackled!

[@billyderlis2937]

lol it was my first too, and i didn’t honestly find it too challenging after you realize that the damn thin piece goes into the slits

[@McGooness]

I loved watching this. I did this puzzle about 9 years ago. I could undo it. But not out it back together, (like 3 days of working on it) so watching you take forever to do it (in your own right) is very satisfying.

[@Whosharderthandrewcarter]

When your headphones get tangled in your pocket...(yes I live along with the wire users🙃😂)

[@yolojwz72]

Samee

[@matthewwertz6649]

I've wanted to see you try this puzzle for some time, cant believe I didn't see it when you posted it. Very satisfying when complete, one of the hardest hanayama I've collected, with the most sequential moves. I'll comment on some of your newer post about seeing you try 2 more puzzles. 1, hanayama's hourglass (I believe, could be wrong, 4 steel pieces if that helps) my hanayama collection includes almost all of their level 4 through 6 puzzles and that one topped enigma for me. Also VERY satisfying. 2, revomaze, start with aqua just for fun. Took me about 45 minutes to mentally map out but I doubt the community will be upset with you showing a solution for the easiest maze. We all have bridges to cross and I'm sure it will help the revomaze community in the end. Love the vids though, and always support! Thank you!

[@gametime4877]

Cris :" i dont believe its the hardest in world..ill be the judge of this." Hanayama puzzle: "oh rlly now, i will give u a head ache"

[@jamesbenner7370]

Your enthusiasm and passion has re-peaked my curiosity in puzzles. I have bought a bunch of different ones from the Hanayama's to Tavern Puzzles to wooden ones to that bottle puzzle that you have to get the ball out of... It's gotten to the point that I can't watch your videos that I want to because I don't want to spoil ones I haven't done yet, so now I have slipped into your magic and cardistry vids which are just as thorough and fun to work at... Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for putting out the content and tell you that it's appreciated 🤘 Keep keeping life interesting my friend!

[@bobbycratchet3958]

Just a little more practice with these simple puzzles before he has Excalibur fixed and WW3 begins. Pretty soon puzzle makers will bring these to VR. So many more possibilities!!!!

[@MarkBreugelmans]

Thumbs up Chris solving this puzzle ... I have this here, took me about 2 hours to take it apart ... putting it back together about half an hour ... really like this kind of puzzles, so please, add some more of these in your videos

[@nickbyrd1027]

Some woman is going to really appreciate your patience one day.

[@brandonpohl2633]

This was super fun for me to watch because I got this same puzzle for Christmas this year from my grandparents. It was really funny listening to your commentary because it was essentially the same thing I was saying to myself as I was attempting to solve it. I was able to get the pieces apart over the course of a month just fiddling around with it. I then got stuck putting it back together exactly as you did @ 15:00. My best guess is I put one of the pieces together backward when trying to reassemble it. It had been sitting on my side table in that same position to this day, mocking me.

[@ROCKSTARGUY141]

took me 2 1/2 hours to solve this one. also the opening shouldn't be offset like that

[@DimitriSabadie]

Took me some hours, but I found it pretty “okay”. Definitely not the maximum Hanayama difficulty to me. Hourglass was much, MUCH harder. And Vortex took me months.

[@connerschaub387]

@@DimitriSabadie have you tried quartet? If so how did you fare?

[@DimitriSabadie]

@@connerschaub387 I made it but it was super frustrating, and I can’t say I completely understand it. I need to redo it again. :)

[@brianas5494]

I’ve been watching your videos for about a year now and love your videos, I solved this puzzle about 2 months ago in about a half hour in school during a study hall and out it back together in about 5 minutes and after solving it looked to see if you had a video of it. So happy you finally found this puzzle and made a video on it. ☺️☺️☺️

[@Bread-wq4tq]

I’m so early so I want to say how much I love this channel

[@lanier1822]

My ex-wife got me this puzzle for Christmas and I had a great time solving it, have taken it apart and put it back together numerous times. Glad to see it on this channel... Keep up the great videos... Big fan

[@tkoe9878]

I'm doing this puzzle now, so this is going to be in my watch later for after I figure it out

[@connorbyerly4279]

I totally asked you to make this video! I dont thi I you saw it but I definitely did, so thank you! I have started a small puzzle collection since seeing your videos about 3 months ago. This was one of the first ones i got and it took me about 2 weeks to solve. It was super cool to watch you solve one that i have done. You're the man! Thanks again!

[@truemag98]

Dude, do you have a spotify playlist or something with all this music you use in your videos? Like this song you used in the outro "Fashion - Dansez", it's f'ing good

[@arpiabu-alrub7484]

you're my hero i've been wanting to know the name of this outro for so long!!!!

[@kleko]

Solved the enigma a few months back. I can truly say that the state which Chris calls "one step away from solved" is a dead end trap. The assembly part of the puzzled is hell.

[@byWulf]

Solved the first part half a year ago.. end of the story :D since then I have three beautiful pieces right next to my table at work 😅

[@joey2point5]

I don’t know what’s more entertaining, Chris solving hard puzzles very fast or the the puzzles that take Chris over an hour hmhhhh

[@IvyHolo]

Okay now It's official. I watched too many puzzle videos. Tonight I had a dream about solving a level 10 wire puzzle that was made out of two 30 cm pieces. It was a royal blue anodized metal. I spun it around like a rubic's cube and solved it within 10 seconds. I was thinking that Chris would never be able to solve it. It would take him forever to solve it. 😂 Too bad I don't remember the shape of it 😐

[@nickevangelista9308]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS UPLOAD FOR A LONG TIME! My girlfriend got this for me as my FIRST PUZZLE like 2 years ago. It took me a year to solve. Thanks Chris!

[@EmptyRoni]

Starts playing with puzzle After 30 mins of fiddling with it without saying a word Chris be like: Ooof gotcha . Now it went through..Ok we good LOL

[@cartersullivan8715]

I got this puzzle along with a couple other Hanayama puzzles years ago for Christmas (maybe I was 15) and after a whole lot of frustration I was able to get it apart. It has remained that way ever since because I haven't had the faintest idea on how to put it back together or what it even originally looked like. I've been re-inspired, I must find it and fix it.

[@brentrollo9908]

Chris Ramsey:posts Me:immediately watches it

[@DbladeMedic]

Chris your the reason i picked up magic again. when i was little i was afraid that none of the tricks i did would work. Thats still a fear today but youve helped me out alot with all your videos. Thank you so much chris for bringing one of my loves back to me. Actually thank you doesnt even begin to explain how much youve really helped. Also youve helped me cgange my thinking on how to solve puzzles.

[@Cl0udWolf]

Haha I finished that puzzle before heading out just a month ago. Very tricky rotations

[@jokersrevenge3461]

This was my first hanayama puzzle took me 2 hours just get it apart 😆 I've been waiting for you to finally come across this one thank you Chris love your videos

[@kitty-catmint]

"the inner machinations of my mind are an enigma"-patrick

[@Oklaz1nonly405]

Dude I love Hanayama puzzles, my favorite of which is vortex. I feel so relieved I wasn't the only one that had to take a step back for a second from this one. Once you get the steps down though it's so satisfying with a hint at why didn't I see that before.

[@haljas_]

1944: No one will solve ENIGMA! Chris Ramsay: Hold my beer.

[@animatorZed]

I know this video was ages ago, but just stumbled upon it and recognized this puzzle. A friend gave this to me 5-10 years ago because they couldn't solve it. It was in a common area and I fiddled with it every so often. One day, I finally managed to get it apart but had absolutely no idea how to put it back together. Eventually, I gave up and put the pieces into one of my boxes when I moved. This video reminded me of them so I started digging through my old boxes. After a bit of a search I was excited to find them next to an old model kit. Well, more specifically I found.... two of the three pieces. The third piece (the one with the thin groove) is probably long gone. RIP.

[@TheArcticTurt1e]

“Nearly impossible” *Excaliburr in the corner brooding*

[@READYdot]

I make you personally responsible for my new addiction to puzzles. Since I started watching your videos about 2 months ago, I bought the entire Level 4 Set by Hanayama (all solved), some level 5 (1 solved), some Constantin Boxes, some Bambus Burr puzzles and some puzzle games (Think Fun games) and the brilliant Cube Puzzler GO and PRO , you should try those.

[@arlomiedema4255]

already miss the "HOT DAM'N!" & cap throw

[@markthorliebmann]

Yes! We need it back

[@coldclearkt]

@@markthorliebmann your profile pic looks like you ate a bunch of ice cream

[@markthorliebmann]

@@coldclearkt no it's just preggo Finn

[@coldclearkt]

@@markthorliebmann thicc Finn

[@markthorliebmann]

@@coldclearkt hewl yeah

[@odysseusantonios933]

every time i visit the puzzle website given in description after watching your videos of solving puzzles i got curious and bought the one of the lowest rank puzzle to solve but its does not go well then i realize how you represent and how it looks in my hand is totally different and without solving the puzzle i placed it near my computer. what i am trying to say is you representation of puzzles is best than any other you are the best

[@duchi882]

*Me solving this:* _Takes out saw_

[@dinohunter6450]

Me: *takes out pliers*

[@DemonicMako]

These videos are something I enjoy watching. Especially since I’m going through a hard patch in my life right now..so thank you for the amazing videos!!

[@MikePurisima]

A Canadian wearing a GSW hat while the Raptors are in the finals? Boy you have balls! Haha random but love your videos man, keep it up! ps. Go Warriors!

[@emilieloveskiwi]

This video wasn't boring for me to watch. I don't watch your videos to learn how to solve the puzzle. I watch it to watch YOU solve the puzzle. So even though I'm not "in it" and don't know what's going on with the puzzle, it's still interesting to watch you solve it. ^-^

[@BayouCouyon]

This thing drove me crazy 😂 never taking it apart again!!

[@nathangeorge7405]

I have that puzzle and it’s cool to see someone solving a puzzle you know how to solve

[@nathangeorge7405]

Also there are three types of prices in that puzzle the gets in your way piece the central piece and the transport piece

[@cassiuswright1328]

Me: struggles to take it apart. Puzzle: comes apart. Me: realizes I broke it Me: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

[@oliviahusak9020]

Love these videos even if u dont finish the puzzle, the production value and attention to detail when filming is so satisfying. could watch just for that tbh.

[@BabyRho]

I really thought you said honey I’m a puzzle 🧩 lol you should definitely do a shirt that says that it would be so dope please!!!!

[@esh31]

Love this. Love the honesty at the end. My favorite channel on KZbin is back

[@charliematzke4801]

He’s in Canada, but he’s wearing a warriors hat during the finals😱

[@owenbrohman4612]

Firebolt SC30 I had the same question

[@RabbitsInBlack]

LOL. How about that Rapper Tom MacDonald. Raps like he's American and then I looked it up and find out this guy is Canadian, WTF?!

[@Mandy0monday]

I enjoy watching your puzzle solving videos. It's interesting to be able to see that possible move to a solution while watching you struggle for a bit, but seeing the puzzle from the video watching perspective is so different to actually solving the puzzle.

[@tulsaperson]

How can you wear a Golden State hat when they’re playing Toronto in the finals?!

[@Koalis54]

Im so glad you ended up doing this one!! This was my first puzzle I got a week ago and I can't get back together cause I forgot how I took it apart!

[@jazzadieu]

My name is also Vaughn xD Im proud cause its very rare here in the Philippines

[@thisiscait]

This is the first puzzle I ever bought! Definitely jumped off the deep end, but took it with me on the bus to work and solved it in about an hour. A great puzzle, so much fun!

[@Lattenwald]

"My head hurts" YSK that "puzzle" in Russian literally translates as "head breaker". I wonder why.

[@sergeov8431]

No. it's not

[@Lattenwald]

@@sergeov8431 Wanna talk about it? "Головоломка" is a two words compound: "голова" - head, "ломать" - to break. I suppose you are native speaker, so am I. Не делай из себя дурочку.

[@sergeov8431]

@@Lattenwald alright, alright. I see your point now. Calm your tits, cowboy!

[@squirrelsurvival]

I'm Soooo glad this took that long for you haha, it probably took me between 2-3 hours of work before I knew exactly how to do it in and out. Not the hardest puzzle but definitely a good one. I haven't found anyone but us that can do it so far. Good job Chris!

[@AssWhole-u6d]

You should do some chess puzzles man, they are free and pretty difficult.

[@morganalexis3883]

Literally have this puzzle in front of me and haven't been able to solve it in almost a year! So happy you uploaded this!! Thanks Chris!

[@groowanderer]

I'm sorry to say, this video isn't going to help you on your solve. Chris skimmed right through two crucial moves, seemingly without realizing it. I'm really amazed he was able to take it apart, without making a fuss about these two very satisfying moves (you'll know, when you get them).

[@morganalexis3883]

@@groowanderer awe maaaan! Thank you for telling me. I actually havent finished the video yet. I wont get my hopes up. Haha

[@oneweirddaydreamer6181]

Enigma puzzle: I'm the hardest puzzle ever Excalibur puzzle: **ahem** I'm sorry _what?_

[@kurlykayla9013]

I bought the Enigma puzzle upon seeing this, making it my very first puzzle that I've tried my hand at per Chris' videos. I tried solving it before watching his attempt, and I actually managed to take it apart!!! It took about two days for me to solve, but I'm still incredibly proud of myself. I'm working on putting it back together now! Also, while working on it, I couldn't stop thinking that it would make for a pretty good bike lock haha

[@Chiller.]

Is anybody gonna acknowledge that this puzzle looks like a ear

[@weeniks]

Only recently found your channel (in the past 2-3 months) love them! But my god you have the patience of a saint with some of these puzzles. I think I would have lost it after 5 mins 😂 but hey that’s why I’m not the one making these great videos. Keep up the good work!

[@blunts-]

35 comments 116 likes but 2 views youtube drunk

[@MDSF90]

Lil Demon why can’t people understand that you can comment and like a video without watching it? That makes you drunk. Not KZbin.

[@blunts-]

Shut up

[@blunts-]

@@MDSF90 shush

[@TerraHv1]

You need to post the full versions of these puzzles, maybe on a separate channel. These relax me so much

[@Wroughts014]

You’re my favorite thing about youtube. I can always count on your videos to be enjoyable

[@bsw051]

This outro was excellent. It epitomizes why we love these puzzles. You can always do what I do when I get stuck. See if Mr. Puzzle has the solution.

[@hughmorgan6350]

Finally finished this puzzle today after many hours of trying. Got stuck for a long time separating the last two pieces. The move Chris makes at 12:34 wasn't supposed to me made (you can see him force it a little). I thought of doing the same thing but realized if you need to force it then it probably wasn't right. There 100% is another move that lets it slide right out

[@bunsenhoneydew347]

A work friend let me borrow this puzzle and it was one of the toughest ones I’ve ever done. I had a similar experience...losing my s#!t trying to put the damn thing back together!! I finally did...but it took a few sessions of having to put it down for a while. Glad to see the mighty Chris even had a tough time.

[@kevot89]

This is my favorite puzzle to tinker with at my desk. Solving it over and over is always satisfying

[@charlieeff]

I'm glad this melted your brain too Chris. I left it on the coffee table when I couldn't put it back together. Tried it every day until I got it. Took a while in fairness but that's value for money in puzzle terms for me. Win win. Peace out