The New $70 Lian Li Dan A3-mATX - You're getting so much!

Wow. Just wow. This 26L "Micro Form Factor" case is a game changer.
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0:00 Intro
1:15 Case Features
3:33 PSU and rad positions
9:08 Storage
9:46 Build Process
13:30 Thermal Testing
15:24 No Bottom Fans is better
17:55 Pros and Cons
19:53 Who should get this?
21:07 You should get this.

[@justeddm]

The right size for me , ATX unnecessarily huge , SFX unnecessarily expensive parts .. Thanks for the video

[@allpro7cf257]

Excellent case and good review 👍 I cant wait to get this case in white

[@urbanpitch90]

I keep seeing this case pop up today in the feed, and hear nothing but good things about it. I'm more than tempted to build a pc in one.

[@sgru9558]

because dumbs go after glass panels.

[@PhuLa]

Crazy how I bought the original Dan case for almost 300. Still love it, but the pain of that SFF wasn't worth the space savings. These mATX cases are a nice middle ground.

[@adpt_music]

great review. would love to see an air cooling based follow up if possible :)

[@extroex7744]

The potential of that enclosure is really good. I see 3x360 rad custom loop there able to handle everything thermally at low fan speed.

[@gscurd75]

Happy to see more mATX cases out there that leave room for cooling and large GPUs. I love the smaller cases but am not a fan of paying the ITX tax for smaller boards. I just wish there were more high end mATX boards out there. Asus tried it with the Gene but they went a bit too crazy with all the features they threw in there. Give me something in the $250 range made for overclocking

[@hamishmcnaught9783]

So you don't want to pay more for ITX but want a more expensive Matx board resulting in it being the same price as an ITX??

[@gscurd75]

@@hamishmcnaught9783 High end ITX boards for AMD are around $300. I am asking for slightly better mATX boards for around $250. How is that confusing?

[@Sheltur_0311]

@@hamishmcnaught9783 a b650 board is like 300-350$ in itx

[@link981]

great review. would love to see a video about air cooling this case.

[@neonspecter2730]

I think rear intake is the way to go with this case, especially with an air cooler and TG side panel.

[@ailluinthethyra6139]

Bottom dust filter looks like the cheap PVC ones so porosity might be the issue with higher GPU thermals. Good thing I waited for this, it looks better than AP201.

[@ailluinthethyra6139]

@@RicochetForce Looks = aesthetics. I'll replace the bottom dust filters with nylon.

[@TheJamesKF]

With GPUs getting larger and not smaller this case and those like it make a lot of sense for getting into MFF builds and downsizing from huge bulky towers. They can take ATX PSUs and larger CPU coolers as well. Nice overview.

[@jeremyhu7808]

Thanks for the video! I'd be interested to hear your thoughts comparing it to the SAMA IM01 Pro which has very similar dimensions if you managed to get around to reviewing that case. I'm particularly intrigued by how the thermals would compare (with it having a mesh front) as well as the possibility of inverting the case for better GPU thermals.

[@user-tz5ck1xy5u]

I don't like that the front panel is non-ventilated. The PSU and CPU will be competing for the same air, to some extent (when air cooled).

[@Mr.McWatson]

Might be okay if you mount a fan on the top blowing down at the gap between them

[@emiel255]

Would there also be a chance for you to review the Thorzone NanoQ S and R version? Those cases look very beautiful and I’m curious to see your take on it

[@VeritronX]

If i'm reading this right, using a side mounted sfx-l psu in S2 and a 3 slot or less gpu, you can have a side mounted 360mm rad as intake, 3x 120mm bottom intakes for gpu, 3x 120mm top exhausts.. so 9x120mm fans and seperate cool air intakes for cpu and gpu

[@tdm17mn]

Is there any way you could possibly take this apart and make an instructional video on how to build in this case? I’ve never built a pc before, but I’m planning on building one using this case. Thank you!

[@davor1306]

I love your videos. Normally they are very detailed with all the combinations and differences in temperature, but this one is not. I'm sorry you didn't show all the possibilities of this interesting case. For example, with the SFX PSU I would like to see a combination with a 360mm radiator on the side (intake, exhaust), 3 fans on top, 3 fans on the bottom and one on the back (intake, exhaust). So a total of 10 fans in that 26 liter case and that's what makes it possibly the best MATX case out there right now. If the 360mm aio is the LIan Li Galahad II 360 Trinity Performance, that would be very interesting to see against large PC cases. Of course with 13900k/14900k. Thank you.

[@NightcorePlume]

Would there be a way to mount a 360mm rad to the side (using that panel at 7:08), place an ATX power supply at the side of the motherboard and not in the front configuration, whilst keeping maximum size for GPU length (415 mm)? If I read Lian Li's chart correctly, it seems like it would be possible, as long as the ATX PSU is under 150mm. If that is true and does indeed fit, I'm sure that would be the configuration with the least compromises! That case is looking great :)

[@solasakarhys]

would air cooling be good? like for example, 152-155 mm air coolers?

[@keliangchan]

a larger nr200(p) that can fit 360 aio

[@YiHogyun]

main reason I see is to use a regular sized PSU. Otherwise, a standard mobo in a Cerberus X makes more sense so as to add other stuff in it

[@realx3m]

loks like a great case but 1 thing i dont understand, why would one make the front not vented and make the psu gulp on that hot air from the inside instead of facing the front for fresh air... Would have been a great case, but that fact makes it a disappointment for me. Looks like Jonsplus(Jonsbo) Z20 is still the best choice in this form factor in my book.

[@EnergeticTK]

Because that doesnt really matter, if the air in your pc is hot enough to hurt your psu you have other problems to attend to

[@realx3m]

@@EnergeticTK Even if it doesnt hurt it immediately it will still lower efficiency and lifespan of the components, with GPU temps up to 90C the PSU fan being on top of it sure doesnt do it favours. You dont need to make excuses for what is a dumb decision, when a better alternative is easily implementable.

[@triliner254]

man shut up

[@triliner254]

I know you have better things to complain about rather than some trivial pc case bs

[@HYDRAdude]

@@triliner254 You are literally complaining about complaining.

[@ericbucklin3382]

Thanks for the video. Can this case fit a Noctua D15 G2? There is usually a bit of fudge room. Probably need to remove the side radiator bracket. I know what the documentation says, I just don't want to buy and build to return. Ty in advance.

[@FridgeStyler]

Thanks for your Video. You said with 60 mm thickness of your AIO its a maximum size because of the cooling header. My AIO ist 66mm thick so my question is, is there absolutely no more space or would my arctic AIO with 6 mm more thickness also fit in with this mainboard? Thanks for reply.

[@TheStokesperc]

Do you know if the Lian li Galahad ii LCD 280 would fit on the top? The acoustics and thermals of the 280 are great. However, is there enough room for it or would the mobo be in the way?

[@mcp20366]

A minimal enclosure Faraday Case will suffice. Closing off the top is indeed not disturbing the ventilation. The bottom, esppecially with an ATX case would not need fans. Unless you would want to create positive pressure in the case and you'd wanna catch dust at the bottom fiilter. I'm thinking an air cooled build with this case. The side mesh panel for me makes the glass panel obsolet and the better option. Closing off the top would be my choise, but the exhaust fan on the back should be totally functional. Closing the top really makes me conosider thin fans at the bottom just to draw air in and get psoitive pressure in the case. As you'll notice, I'm a big fan of air cooling. A car vehicle made for outdoor usage may fare well with watercooling. In a non-humid electrical environment as a PC, there no place for watercooling.

[@ChiHoKo]

@9:26 will mounting the 3.5" HDD at the bottom of the cage look strange and a bit risky with the HDD exposed?

[@moxb]

Is it possible to mount 2x 280mm (30mm of thickness) with 25mm fans on the top and on the side with RTX 4070 ti super tuf gaming?

[@pnargaming1234]

What is your power supply brother,Atx,sfx or sfx-l? ❤❤❤

[@vankammevids9541]

If I didn’t put fans at the bottom of the case, would the three fans on my GPU be good enough as an intake? I’d exhaust top with 2 120s and the back with 1 120. This is just a little spare build for me with only a 3060ti and an air cooled 5600x. Might only get a couple of hours use a month

[@alifakbar500]

This vs asus ap201 which one comes top

[@93SupaFly]

Can you try a setup which no bottom fans and no dust filter, one intake at the back and 3x 120mm OR 2x 140mm fans on the side rail as intake? I believe this will be the best setup if you dont care about whats inside.

[@BCdesu]

Is there any chance that you'll review Jonsbo (Jonsplus) Z20?

[@aman5175]

i have a Zotac 4090 which is 357mm and a 160MM ATX psu.. what im thinking is what if i put the psu on the side and vertically mount the GPU? is a 360mm aio in the top.. 160mm PSU at the mobo side and a vetically mounted 357mm GPU.. i know its gonna be tight.. but do you think it wuold be possible?

[@Aina_Nightfall]

How does the side mounted aio effect the temps, all hot air out the top but fresh air from side

[@HaruuyukiOP]

i am a itx fan and love the case at my next build i think i use my sfx 10cm deep psu a 280/360aio as intake at side, 3fans 280/360mm bottom as intake, 3 fans 360/280mm top outtake the only thing iam limited at my atm build is the ragb headders i have 1 and can only use 8 fans with 10led each... for cable managemant no problem the mamagement at my atm. jonsbo v10-G was harder :D

[@FJBandFkMAGA]

Sama IM01 Pro is honestly a better buy. Full mesh, all steel construction, less than 26L and around the same price. Downside of the case is the power cable is a pig tail connection. It doesn’t bother me too much since you will already have a power cable connecting to the PSU

[@JohnVannoy]

Since the PSU mounts at the front, it seems an odd design choice for this Lian Li to have a solid front panel. You would want the PSU to be able to pull in cool outside air (thru the front panel), like it can in the Sama case.

[@UranTCG]

@@JohnVannoy Having it pull air from inside the case and function as an exhaust is probably a net benefit. Your PSU isn't going to overheat and it could possibly contribute to airflow. Nothing wrong with pulling outside air, but the PSU doesn't care if it's pulling ambient air or case air. It'll be fine.

[@Mr864077]

i had the same mobo same aio but seems like cant fit it in, end up swap out the p28 fan . Wandering how you manage to fit the aio in .

[@user-eu5ol7mx8y]

I would set the rear fan as intake.

[@theAwakenedOne007]

What about vertical mount the gpu on aide mesh panel wirh bottom fans ans rear exhaust fan? Could mount psu on back side panel

[@Scoopa]

If they offered this with a wooden front panel like the Fractal North, I'ld buy this case in a heartbeat.

[@schmintendont]

If you look at Computex coverage, the Lian Li booth is teasing that for this case.

[@A.Mihaylov]

And thermals with air cooling??

[@rickroll1141]

hope this comes to my country ASAP.

[@bobbymoss6160]

I don't like the slotted fan cutouts. But price is good though.

[@Mintor94]

How about making the rear fan an intake? More fresh air for top rad

[@user-eu5ol7mx8y]

Exactly! That's what I would do. It's the same situation as NR200.

[@skyunn]

Which is better mobile wise? DEEPCOOL CH160 or this?

[@rachelcheung2247]

Still waiting for a new vertical ITX case to replace my meshlicious :(

[@krazyfrog]

If you have a graphics card with flow-through design like the FE models then they would be sending their hot air straight into the PSU fan when the latter is mounted on the front.

[@voidisciple2759]

Compact with a 360 rad what more can a man ask for. I actually have the Asus Prime AP201 case at the time I was redesigning it was the smallest reasonable case that a 360 rad can fit in. Its 33 Liters instead of 26 but I I've been loving it. Build quality is insane for the price. I slept on Matx for too long everything matx is so reasonably priced I don't get it. Why am I so committed to a 360 rad? Beyond just already having one idk

[@helpdemo]

suggestion, can you do a build using the a3 with cpu aio on top and gpu aio on the side?

[@112Famine]

Do the GLASS PANELS fit on both side? Thinking of milling a new inside panel with a sandwich layout & back panel, & custom water cool everything with a dual pump loop with dual 360 or 420 radiators. And all tubing done with 12mm glass tubing, nothing looks better than GLASS. I learned how to make neon signs just to glass water cool.

[@MachinesMore]

I'll have to check if they will latch in, but for sure the small tab/handle would look funny unless you filed it off.

[@dj-zl7ko]

will my ma824 fit?...its half centimeter short by the specs

[@pauloregala6754]

this or the asus ap201?

[@garrek99]

Would you be willing to test the Cooler Matter 100 Max SFF case? Just one thing though with that case, it exhausts hot air from the PSU into the radiator which you need to modify. I thin aluminum plate can help mount the PSU 90 degrees counterclockwise thereby exhausting out the system fan. It's a really cool case, otherwise.

[@MachinesMore]

I have! Review is on the channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fme3dYp6mbBkpa8

[@Justin-vq9co]

Are we slowly coming full circle to full size atx? 😂 next video will be "Look at this atx case!! SO much room!!"

[@svn5994]

Talking out of your ass.

[@saifali9853]

jonsbo D41, 31L case that can fit full atx mobo. that’s pretty impressive

[@glenncol]

What is the front of the case like? it looks cheap

[@bakakafka4428]

I wonder how much it's going to cost here. NR200p and AP201 are under 100 eur, and the NR200p comes with dust filters all around.

[@lanzgabrieljabla1372]

Anyone tried fitting in an arctic liquid freezer III ? Great video!

[@mannyc19]

I want the previous ITX Case he used to make..... After being told "No more...' by Dan I bought a FORMD T1 V2,0

[@MachinesMore]

Love the t1v2!

[@Dormiyusaur]

this is just the asus prime ap201, which is also 70 dollars, and honestly, it's got all the features of this but is just built better

[@TheSaadtut]

will this case fit the new arctic freezer 3's with their thicker radiators? would it interfere with the memory slots?

[@hyetoch]

Should check out Mr. Matt Lee's video. In short, it won't fit the new arctic freezer 3 360mm. I'm not sure about the 240 and 280mm versions though, as it will most likely depend on the motherboard

[@rahul875]

C4 SFX v2 release date

[@svn5994]

Non existent

[@fourltrman]

The only things I would have added to the review are. Should have included side fans in the review. And, in the current review form. You should have shown the numbers with the bottom fans removed but the back fan as exhaust as well. Not saying it's a bad review just suggesting more configurations show since they are available to anyone who buys this case.

[@Zalionn]

Can this case be inverted? Like installing GPU on top?

[@MachinesMore]

There isn’t an easy way to swap top and bottom, so, no easy inversion possible.

[@dawsonpoe]

Have you ever seen and/or built in the Mechanic Master C28?

[@JiajuChen]

From what I have heard, you really need to be a mechanic master... Apparently it has way too many screws.

[@pdureska7814]

Seems with all the perforated panels air flow not an issue if one were to choose an air cooled system. whats the tower clearance? And boy i would love an option for a TG side panel to view my work. I mean if the NR200p (my current rig) can make a TG panel work with air cooling why not this.

[@MachinesMore]

Tower cooler clearance is 165mm.

[@pdureska7814]

@@MachinesMore Plenty of room for a big boy air cooler, thank you

[@trevorbarney1796]

personally, i cant see why i would purchase this over a D31 Mesh. Worse compatibility, worse build quality/ materials used (instantly turned off with the plastic front panel). The top mounted 360 Rad here overhangs the memory and top VRM which is another compatibility issue. What's the advantage?

[@Zero-oq1jk]

Thanks for video. Will Noctua D15 G2 fit into this? And I don't mean like Noctua D15S version.

[@shannonbrooks3322]

I think there is a maximum of 135mm for an air cooler.

[@Zero-oq1jk]

@@shannonbrooks3322 Nope, it says on official website 165mm. And D15 is 168mm :) D15S is 160mm but I'm not interested in S version especially now. When new G2 is out. lian-li website product/a3-matx/ "The A3-mATX case accommodates a maximum CPU cooler height of 165mm"

[@Zero-oq1jk]

@@shannonbrooks3322 No, only 165mm and D15 is168mm .

[@antoni0j]

When a Jonsbo Z20 case review?

[@Owen-fn8ff]

I’m hesitating between this or the Asus ap201 for airflow. Any advice?

[@MachinesMore]

Both are very good- A3 beats on price.

[@justanobody4983]

Performs about the same but if you put a side fan for aircooled, this is the better choice.

[@AlphaConde-qy7vi]

26L, that's a no for me. But this is the perfect video to remind everyone that the C4-SFXv2 (Dan just posted a poll) and the M1 Evo v2 sorely need to be released ASAP.

[@errr9408]

Interesting case but overall A4-h2o its better, smaller, colder RAM(sandwich style, here the graphics card directly heats up RAM). A new version of the a4-h2o would be useful. GPU on top completely separated from the motherboard, aio along on the right side case behind the mobo for fresh air and best cooling 240mm rad, front wood panel ~ fractal north with 120mm intake, back 120mm exhaust, tempered glass. It would be a revolution😉

[@Invictus_Mithra]

Who cares about ram temperature lol

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Does a Peerless Assassin 120 SE fit in this case?

[@justanobody4983]

As long as its not over 165.

[@carlosgacutan8091]

Just curious, how does it compare to the Fractal Torrent Nano in terms of size?

[@chewdawg]

Torrent Nano is 34.6 L. I have one and it is shockingly large. I wish this A3 was available when I built my PC because it looks like what I actually wanted.

[@petermilian4455]

Any issues using an SFX PSU in this case like the SF750?

[@MachinesMore]

The one consideration would be SFX cables are shorter, so for a longer front mount run you won’t have as much flexibility to conceal them behind things. Otherwise the cage is equipped with an SFX plate out of the box.

[@GizmoTheGreen]

so many ITX cases are as large as matx cases, even this one is pretty big, could be shorter! or less deep, seen front to back. INWIN used to have some great matx cases smaller than most ITX!!! I want more of those.

[@user-eu5ol7mx8y]

Now imagine if this Lian Li case could stand vertically. Would take minimal desk space.

[@GizmoTheGreen]

@@user-eu5ol7mx8y yeah that's why I use a fractal ridge I have a super small desk cause of limited space and I'll never put my PC on the floor

[@Lauterec]

SAMA IM01 sweating bullets rn

[@iatwiatw]

Great case for the price, but the PSU arrangement completely ignores the PSU's intake.

[@user-eu5ol7mx8y]

It has mesh on the mobo side, If you side-mount the PSU you should be getting air in.

[@EnnTomi1]

liquid freezer iii 360 will fit ? or too thick

[@TwistedGlasses]

too thick (source: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZbFqGqwgJeCd7c)

[@BarisYener]

I like the ASUS AP201 more. Similar price and features and no plastic exterior.

[@LuxTheSlav]

Yes, but... ASUS.

[@xtaytoex]

I personally prefer the SAMA IM01 PRO Mesh.

[@maulcun]

This is the case I've been looking for!

[@tft_and_chill]

vertical is the way to go.

[@kimidori2000]

This is NR200 EVO

[@PillowOfEvil]

I feel like the bottom filter hole diameter is too wide and the gpu would choke on dust in my dry ass house.

[@Zalionn]

In all my sff builds, bottom intake fans for the gpu have yielded worse results.

[@blehxpo]

just when i bought a prime ap201 ;[

[@rahul875]

It is better than sugo 17

[@dasani383]

I think the Jonsbo D30 Is better overall

[@willanrac]

I want to rebuild my computer in a smaller case, but my graphics card is so fucking big :(

[@liangdong4002]

Looks similar to ASUS AP201.

[@nalda4334]

How much with the addition of glass panel?

[@MachinesMore]

The TG is supposed to be $12 usd.

[@RobiLemos10]

Put bottom fans on exhaust,believe me.

[@KK-fi6ms]

Isn't this like an almost exact copy of Asus AP201? P.s. with worse performance...

[@ICmikeyP]

Did you watch the video? It basically performs near identical, at a whole 6L less, even with the TG panel.

[@metroplex29]

Terrible case for cable management. Asus ap201 is still a better option.

[@MIGEMI]

mATX motherboards are the worst. Just buy ATX at this point

[@svn5994]

Another person talking out of their ass.

[@Adam-gi1dr]

Great review but a very meh case. Zero innovation.