The New 911 is….a Hybrid?!

In this clip, Marques, Miles, and (kinda) David talk about the new Porsche 911 being a hybrid!
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[@ihatekpeng]

I like that Marques buys a 911 and goes full Porsche bro.

[@larssonk22]

I think that happens to a lot of people. Don't know if you know who TJ Hunt and Adam LZ are, they are JDM guys through and through until they caught the Porsche bug.

[@BadMannerKorea]

@@larssonk22 Last month I bought a 2024 GR Corolla, and for some reason I just want a Porsche. I feel like I got a taste for speed, and I want more.

[@andrewbroadfort6856]

He went full 911 Turbo bro. The worst kind of 911 owners.

[@philosopherking7869]

Better than a Tesla bro. He’s a bro for the best sports car on earth 🌍. A bro for the best car on earth 🌍. A bro for the best car manufacturer on earth 🌍.

[@Lordsuhn]

The whole reason the igniis on the left is faster starting (old lemans rules) a button is even faster - so it is spritually a porsche move.

[@leelamaniswar2251]

I like the point where Andrew is just sitting on floor and chilling and David has no idea when they were talking about widow maker 😂

[@liomuta]

OMG David's looks is priceless

[@kherve4255]

He's most of us

[@Alexander45276]

I think the 1st Porsche hybrid was the 918 spyder

[@traknologist]

What a beautiful car that is!!!

[@jonahhammond2438]

Got to ride in it a few months ago. Greatest car of all time

[@Themayseffect]

Not a 911

[@fishhead90]

4:36 Porsche nerd here… they added the “knob” to the previous gen since the 991.1 as an option, so only half the cars out there have them, but they’ve been around for a bit. Start buttons DO suck and I too am disappointed.

[@0Kabum]

15:22 OG widow maker is Porsche 930 turbo because of instant turbo boost after certain rpm

[@Iambestforreal]

turbo lag i think

[@rbjk]

Sam Altman just casually chilling on the floor…

[@Swagmaster-si1he]

The original widowmaker was the porsche 930 turbo

[@Modularhandle]

IKR. Listening to that pink laptop kid talk about “Porsches” is painful

[@iamphantasm0]

Why Andrew on the floor 😭😂

[@Friday4]

They put him on a Time Out 😭

[@pol.86]

Just a small correction, it is a bigger* single turbo, the electric motor spools the turbo at lower engine RPMs to reduce turbo lag associated with traditional single big turbos

[@seldom_nelson]

The comment I was digging for 👍🏽

[@grskier]

Love when people are fully aware they became the 'get off my lawn' dude in the neighbor.

[@g-wagon_starbucks_run]

lmfao, the awkward zoom in on andrew on the floor at 9:06

[@cliproulette]

He's on the substitution bench for this video :D

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

Changing the ignition to a push button at this stage is probably a lot cheaper since all their other cars use push buttons now, so it's one less parts line they need to deal with

[@charpemetal9514]

Miles and Marques talk like they grew up in the same house 😂🤝. I won’t be shocked 😂.

[@17an28]

At this point, I'll take any porsche I can get 😂

[@carsaregood911]

You can get a 955 Cayenne V6 for next to nothing, have fun 😂

[@Nopicrandom]

Lmao same

[@andrewbroadfort6856]

Buy the only Porsche that really matters, a GT3 manual or a 911 S/T.

[@Joolz1982]

Good luck with that Servicing and parts bill if you buy an older one.

[@bendikarbogast1229]

Finally hearing Americans actually pronouncing Porsche properly including the "e" that some people just skip over :)

[@Liberteabelle]

Lol a pet peeve of mine too! I’m American and remember being confused about that when I was young. We view an -e at the end of the word as silent. But I speak little Deutsch and now I’m all heeeeey pronounce the -e, folks!

[@Ben21756]

@@Liberteabelle In English, the last letter “e” is often silent, because otherwise you would pronounce certain words in a weird way, like cake and name. Porsche with a silent “e” is correct in English, but not authentic to its true German name with a pronounced “e”.

[@Constantin1020]

The Start/Stop Button is not that bad in my opinion but the Digital Tacho 😮, they should at least give customers the option to spec It, even of its extra cost

[@toniober4416]

im pretty sure Porsche dont give a shit about the Corvette

[@fenrir_szn6978]

They might start because their last meaningful competition in that space was the AMG GT (black series and GT3 RS nurburgring beef + the proliferation of AMGs in pro racing that actually do win) and Merc have shat the bed with this new gen with that new fat car

[@omerari4484]

First hybrid sports cars from Porsche? 😀 RIP 918 Spyder... (1:49)

[@Manis-World]

Yes but it actually makes the power to take advantage of it. The new GTS hybrid is only made to please the climate change crowd

[@BigWavesKays]

saving up for this; might return it same day, but it'll happen

[@stevenbenton2061]

When a young Navy Lt., I had a Porsche 911SC. In recent years I’ve moved on to BMWs, but that car will always be my favorite. Enjoy the ride!!!

[@BeavBrodie1]

cant believe the NSX wasn’t part of this conversation of hybrid turbo

[@mooraid]

Why is poor Andrew sidelined to the floor? Is he grounded? Was he a bad boy?

[@trevorlane]

Marques should join the PCA at this point. He'll eventually goto a 993 RS or 964 RS America with a Carplay head unit installed and will have the Joey Porsche outfit on when he's out on a cruise.

[@mbiz1072]

As a 911 turbo s owner. As soon as I found out about the push button start it really pissed me off as well.. Will definitely just be buying the 992.1 turbo. S instead of the 2.2

[@jest0riz0r]

The GT2RS is definitely not the OG "widow maker" from Porsche. That title goes to the 930 (which is also turbocharged btw).

[@Joolz1982]

I also love an analogue tach but think probably cheaper for car companies just to put screens in. I love push button start though. The Porsche Lemans key turn thing, but probably takes up space also as nice as this historic feature is.

[@maxbiesenbach]

Turbos feel like Star Wars hyperspace

[@barivitolo6273]

Love your videos. You got this wrong. The electric element does not work like all the others. This goes to the turbo itself. It is instant and has no lag. It is unique and brilliant. It is way faster than the present GTS. I like the 992.1 GTS, but I just wanted to correct you. Who knows if it will be as reliable as most Porsches, but the digits with performance are amazing and game-changing.

[@CosmoKramer1]

They are not listening to customers. They just put the exact same screen into the 911, that already is in every other current porsche model. It simply is a cost cutting reason, which sucks

[@flacht_6]

Comparing the GT3RS to the Z06 is wild 17:01

[@michaelchen2718]

9:18 lmao

[@saidchammas]

why is he on the floor lol

[@zwerko]

I see no issues with push to start, it's the exact same thing as the old twist, except you don't have to get your keys out. It's a far more convenient system, why would you be against it? As for the instrument cluster, I wouldn't mind the digital ones if they started throwing in 120hz OLED screens in there without polarizing filters so that I can actually see something while wearing my polarized glasses. Until that changes, I prefer the good ol' analog (btw. even the analog ones have been digital for a long time now, it's just an analog 'display' driven by digital data)...

[@benedict6027]

As a 992 Carmine red owner. Key, and the light control right under the key are both downgraded. Also the tac with the two screens looks way cleaner. They had to add a plastic trim between the two screens where as 992.1 blends seamlessly.

[@mango8354]

15:10 The term 'widowmaker' originally started with the Porsche 930.

[@benh9935]

1:50 isn't true because the 918 is a hybrid

[@Manis-World]

PDK with a TCU tune will have you never want to think about driving any other transmission.

[@sg222]

It's the same tech in current F1 cars. With the mgu-h tech there is almost 0 turbo lag

[@EStephensII]

The 9:11 slow zoom 🤣 I see you! Editing and video perfection 🙌🏾

[@kalasend]

The worst feeling you can find in a Porsche buying experience, definitely goes to buying a 996 when it first came out, thinking that "it's okay...it's the new era and the world will soon get used to the new headlight shape...."

[@mars_hikes967]

Every car from the VW imperium is carefully designed in order that it complements other offerings and brands from the VW group. So if you like the haptics of a certain motor start I would recommend a Lamborghini Revuelto. There you have a ridiculous red protection over the starter button (with a hole in it, in case you don't wan't to lift the protection every time) but it will only start the electric motors. If you decide it is time to start combustion, you have to turn another red button on the steering wheel. I bet the massager in the seat is always on, in oder that you can enjoy the manly vibrations, together with the motor sound from the speakers.

[@dhmallet]

The original Widowmaker was the 1976 930 Turbo.

[@wernerengel4919]

Totally agree with Miles.

[@disast1ckup]

911 should have particular charms that emphasize its unique character.. (it’s core concept as a RR platform sports car is an outlier in itself) so making choices because it’s slightly cheaper/easier/“other manu are doing it” …is kinda silly.

[@macgyvermac2344]

hello Mr Marquis you got to remember also a hybrid system doesn't require a starter so that's why it's push button and with the digital screen they have heads up display the one that display on the screen cuz some people don't know what I'm talking about That's cool

[@misterdragzon]

The button is no different from the knob. They’re both sending a digital signal to start the car. We’ve had push button starters way before these hybrids. The HUD had nothing to do with the physical tach in the instrument cluster; all screen+HUD is just a way to save money and use the same driver setup across all models like Cayenne, Taycan, etc.

[@macgyvermac2344]

@@misterdragzon it doesn't matter if they did have push button starter there's no starter now and that's eliminate a weak point and get a strong point

[@biffy7]

FYI … The 2013 Porsche 918 Spider is a hybrid.

[@TrapTech]

Andrew sitting on floor and the slow zoom in is wild😂😂😂

[@mikef1848]

Marques is welcome to the family lmao. He knows his sh** after buying a 911

[@SamuelMonteiro16]

I actually like push to start button and full digital dash i think it works with the era. Hybrid system i could probably do without but im not fully against it. Power wise for any road car anything over 400hp is fine. Id say its more about how to car feels suspension wise steering etc. Just got a g80 and you loose the steering feel. But you gain all the tech features. So for me it would be a nice balance if they could create something that feels raw but with an updated tech package Also 991. Front end looks better 992. Rear end is better 992. Interior is better imo 😂

[@captain_kirkyt2481]

The Tachometer was beautiful in the older 992’s, that’s the only thing I have a real problem with in the new car

[@craig8638]

There have been a few cars that have hybrid engines and are now aspirational vehicles. P1?

[@dulobg3774]

What kind of headsets do you guys use? Thx

[@ferdl7940]

The push button and the all digital gauge cluster is not good… I have a 991.2 and it’s the last great classic feeling 911 that has modern tech.

[@dtibor5903]

They have to make it hybrid for emission standards.

[@LIVElifeHii]

The best selling Porsche is the Macan SUV and I can bet most people with that car does not care about being a purist. They just want tech that competes. And at the end of the day Porsche is a business and it’s more streamline when changing small things to do it to all their cars vs having different gauges and screens for a smaller number of vehicles

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

Exactly, and that's made very clear by their phrasing too - "Porsche customers", not "911 customers"

[@Bmontepeque11]

I love how owning a 911 Turbo is making Marquees understand that tech isn't everything in life not for watches and not for cars at least! My thoughts are that people will complain about the digitization of the Start Butron and the dashboard but people will complain as they are getting their wallets out to buy it so their complaining is worthless. And also, that guy (I forgot his name) says at 9:09 "oH c4rs aR3 aB0uT bEinG fAsT" no, my man, Porsches are not about being fast. They are about being dynamic! If it was about being fast people would prefer the much cheaper BMWs or why not just buy Tesla Model 3 and that's it? Cars are about emotion! Also Marquees answers with the Nürburgring lap time, which is also not what cars are about, I know TikTok has corrupted everyone's minds, but cars are exclusively about how they make you feel :) So, are you having fun in your car? Mission Accomplished then :) Do you need speed to have fun in it? Get you a fast car :) But Porsches are about being dynamic:)

[@sudo1384]

+++ exactly what I wanted to say

[@andrewbroadfort6856]

The 911 GT3 manual is about being dynamic. The 911 Turbo is for someone who has no idea what the 911 is about and who cannot drive stick.

[@Acefisch]

10:12 I‘m a bit disappointed that Marques, who *kinda* is into F1 these days, doesn’t mention anything about the fact it’s basically an MGU-H like in the current F1 Turbo-Hybrid engines

[@jonahhammond2438]

Marques you need to review the 918 ‼️‼️‼️

[@gaara4667]

The complaint doesn’t make sense. The 911 hasn’t been a “drivers car” for years. Everything is done for you and is more grand tourer-like then sports car. You have to spend over quarter million to get the so called “drivers car” 911. The way the 911 has been recently a hybrid just makes sense for it.

[@すどにむ]

Porsche seems to be killing it lately, they correctly identified and analyzed Tesla hype phenomenon and out-engineered them in German manner. Toyota too with Prius. In the end they were not top carmakers for no reason.

[@Liberteabelle]

Speaking for WOMEN, a Push to Start button works much better since our car key is NOT conveniently at hand in our pocket. It’s more likely to be zipped into an inner pocket of our purse and never pulled out except in specific use cases (e.g., car wash, going to the gym)

[@ChrisOv97]

You did not need the key to turn it on, it was just not a push button to start the car. Instead of a button the previous gen had just a lever you had to turn like you did with a key in the past, resembling that original feeling

[@matthewjudge3763]

It worked the same as a push-button start. Instead of a button, it was just a nob you turn that mimicked an old school ignition. As trivial as it sounds, it did add a little character.

[@Liberteabelle]

@@ChrisOv97 Oooooh thanks!

[@Liberteabelle]

@@matthewjudge3763 Ah, thanks!

[@rsbkey]

MKBHD: I have some news. I got the new Porsche GTS. I realize I miss some of the electric spunk off-the line. Yes the turbo S very fast but electric hybrid is the future.

[@kalasend]

@10:59 Tell people you're a kid without telling people you're a kid 😂😂😂😂

[@modisodes]

still waiting for the in-depth review of the 992 turbo S

[@charlesrogers8420]

Porsche has alienated its core enthusiast base.

[@magonazz1]

is that guy sitting on the floor??😅😅😅

[@traknologist]

So after attending many Porsche events and watching a lot of videos here online including videos from Porsche it seems to me they're focusing on the Asian customer first. They do try to appeal to purist still especially when you look at the Cayman GT4 rs and some of the many models they make in the T variant. What's killing me is them adding all the cheaper components inside and outside the car, but I blame that on the merger with Audi.

[@JeffreyPulumbarit]

7:16 David dozing off??.. Or am I trippin?

[@carsaregood911]

Yeah pretty sure he's not a car guy

[@TraeBeneck]

Holy shit I actually think so 😂

[@varinvajanapornsand8960]

Why so obsessed with speed and quickness, the 992.1 is plenty fast and quick. Turbo lag is so minimal with latest 911s. Analog tach, twist starter, and turning light are much more important.

[@Mac2thefuture23]

Nah the original widow maker was the original 911 turbo aka the 930

[@reanetsemoleleki8219]

Most 911 buyers are just rich people, not necessarily sports car or Porsche enthusiasts. If they really take customer feedback that's where most of it is coming from.. Why would some finance bro care about an analog tachometer?

[@notbenh]

The tricky thing here is that Porsche kept the 911 as a heritage machine and built that customer. And now is trying to make this like the rest of the line by splitting hairs by confusing Porsche customers vs a 911 customer.

[@vengeance86]

the taycan is a fully electric 911

[@skyscraperfan]

A car should not have a single display.

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

Depends on the car, and depends on where the display is and what it's used for. There are legitimate uses for screens in cars for a lot of different purposes. I do agree that a 911 shouldn't have a primarily digital dash though

[@tamim24]

Maybe they updated the gage cluster to support next gen apple carplay

[@tamim24]

Lmaoooo i just got to the part of the video where they mention that

[@dBsdecibels]

A year ago I locked in a 991.1 because I wanted to lock in my fun car before they turned all but the top models into hybrid / electric auto transmission Transformer cars. They'll keep making naturally aspirated, and maybe even manual, as long as they can get away with it. But those features will be reserved for the uber rich versions and super limited in quantity. I'll never be able to afford them. Locked in my little slice of heaven, and it sounds and handles amazingly!

[@tej0127]

How did you decide between a 991.1 and a 991.2? I like the facelift of the 991.2 but the taillights for the 991.1 are so nostalgic and iconic for me. I’m pretty sure you had to make a decision between the 2, or was the 991.1 just your preferred option?

[@dBsdecibels]

@@tej0127 So, I went into it planning to keep it as my "Forever ICE" car. That being the case, I wanted it to be everything antithetical to electric. I'll have plenty of hyper-fast, instant torque monsters going forward. 15 years from now all models of the 991.1 and 991.2 will seem slow, so speed and tune-ability didn't matter. What mattered: connected feel, revy engine, amazing sound, manual transmission, light weight, easier to maintain & more reliable, etc. The 991.1 is slower than .2, but it sounds so much better. In 15 years, when both of them seem slow, at least the .1 will still sound amazing! The .1 should be more reliable and easier to work on. It's a tad lighter weight, and the engine needs to be wound out to get the best out of it. Everything antithetical to electric! I'd have honestly preferred 997.2, for even more analog driving, but I do like the interior upgrades. I need to drive about 4 hrs each way to the really fun roads, so the interior is a worthwhile perk. Plus, the 991.1 steering (the least liked aspect), can be "tuned" to the GT3 mapping, which had fantastic steering.

[@tej0127]

@@dBsdecibels Thanks for the detailed reply. Seems like you're more interested in the drive experience than visuals which I can totally respect. Can I ask what specific model you have? And if you have plans on modding/tuning it? I've had my eye on the .2 turbo S but always find myself going back and looking at the .1 turbo S, there's just something about it.

[@dBsdecibels]

@@tej0127 Just a base C2. Would have welcomed an S, but I had been looking for either (coupe + manual + RWD + service records) for 18 months already. Power has never really been a big draw for me. I enjoy tight turns, so I was fine when a base came along that met my requirements. Anything more ambitious than an S would have been beyond my means. I will likely tune it. At the very least, I want to do headers and full exhaust. Haven't gotten to it yet though. First upgrades will be to the interfaces: Numeric shifter + cables, Apple CarPlay, that GT3 steering setting (need PIWIS III), etc. Want to do anything I can to get more induction noise too. I know many don't like it, but I think it's one of the best parts of that naturally aspirated engine. Such a different sound!

[@8kdrei]

1:45 porsche has said on the record that they will never make a fully ev 911

[@TheMadmax0609]

That's incorrect, Porsche said the 911 would be the last car to go fully electric.

[@pirlyet]

The fact that the guy with glasses is asking “is the car faster even though it is heavier” tells me that has no clue about 911s. 9:15

[@davidsean290]

You are that person and welcome to the club

[@biffy7]

😂😂😂 the difference between growing up with these cars vs reading it on Wikipedia. 😂😂😂

[@lm0026]

The turbo S will be just as fast or faster than a veyron

[@regretul]

bro.........😭😭😭😭 x drop 2 holes in the frikin' display x drop 2 needles into those holes x create multiple UI screens (as they already do) with: y some to accommodate the needles / mimic analog writing for the needles and just leave the needles to their job......or y make them needles stay in a static position in a way that makes sense (e.g. dividing different UI sections) for the UIs where you don't want analog at all...... im no designer but is it such an engineering endeavor what i've just described? xDDDDD

[@coveringgrape5251]

Nice idea

[@Modularhandle]

No 911 owner requested an all digital cluster or plastic start button. That is internal politics impacting the product roadmap.

[@Manis-World]

I’m glad of what Porsche did for the Base and S by adding bigger turbos… opened up a lot more potential! As for the GTS with hybrid … we never wanted this crap but I get it that Porsche is trying to please the climate scare people 😂

[@deucedaprodeuca]

There are no widowmakers like the original Dodge Viper 🐍

[@marijnvanbuuren]

I think I’m the only one who was disappointed with Porsche for not being a “full” hybrid.

[@TailorJohnson-l5y]

Dr. Brownlee a Rolex is the dumbest thing ever until you look at it through the lens of gradient descent. Look at Patek Philippe's self-winding link. They've mechanically been doing back prop - the heartbeat of our neural network revolution for ages. Not so much in dw/dj with data but in power generation..... The math behind the "real physical needle" and its weight based on the precious materials used in that needle are all calculated. Its a rabbit hole.... But an amazing one.

[@dreamer3176]

I fully fully agree with his two dislikes of the new Porche

[@WhatisaLee]

Cars are not all about acceleration. Case in point, one of the most popular cars amongst car people is the Miata. Go figure.

[@lilsabin]

I got so confused by the "Dr Brown" at first , looool

[@oevers]

04:08 As a German, I’m confused when I hear Americans pronouncing Porsche perfectly German. I’m used to „Porsch!“ or more like actually expect to hear it pronounced like that because it’s so to funny😂

[@IWAYAE]

Why’s homie sitting on the floor? What did he do?

[@zohircherifi5616]

I bet Marquez regrets the 911 he bought

[@maximilianlauberger1729]

I don’t think so. I would not regret if I bought the car. I just like the “old” interior design more. I think he does too.

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

This entire video is him commenting on how disappointed he is by the new model in comparison to his current one, it sounds like he's quite pleased with his current model

[@sedenta]

f1 are hybride (like Porsche 918 btw…) so I’m far from shocked with such transition

[@sebastianrosenbach7873]

3:27 video does not match. That‘s the 991 tachometer, not 992.1

[@JasonBryantGreen]

Andrew on time out sitting on the floor.

[@anotherexit]

First hybrid for Porsche was the 918 not this

[@markadams3086]

The Porsche 911 GTS is NOT a turbo charged. It is supercharged, which eliminates the lag. The GTS is the only version version that his hybrid and supercharged not the base.

[@jayritchie7284]

Wrong. The new GTS has a single turbo (992.1 was twin turbo) with the new model having an electric generator between the compressors that reduces turbo lag but also recuperates energy as there is no waste gate. Look it up.

[@misterdragzon]

Porsche calling it e-Turbo doesn’t help

[@Corey25]

Incorrect…

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

​@@misterdragzone-turbo and variations on that theme have been around for ages, there's even old Volvo performance engines with electrically driven forced induction around

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

The thing is, even a supercharged engine will lag compared to a high performance EV, which is what Marques was comparing them against. It should match a naturally aspirated engine in terms of throttle response but it won't be instant

[@cxnrxd]

what did Andrew do that the has to stay in the corner?😂😂

[@Fr99763]

Turbos killed the sound. Last atmos engine in road car was 2014. They however left the nonturbo engine in the GT3’s, which started a rush to buy GT3s. Why are they not releasing the 2, 2S, 4, 4S? Anybody asked that question? Why a GTS directly? Because the downsized double turbo engines had the sound of a sewing machine, not a 911

[@frieska34]

where is brandon?