The New Arena Football League is Already Doomed

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The Touchback

The Touchback

Күн бұрын

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@mikegeiler2347
@mikegeiler2347 8 ай бұрын
I literally had to scrounge the internet to find out if week 1 even happened. None of the team or league websites or social media had any information. No youtube highlights, no box scores, nothing until I finally found someone else’s Twitter that had one clip. This was two days after the games should’ve been played. This league is amateur hour
@craigrittase5340
@craigrittase5340 8 ай бұрын
Doesn't even seem like it's a full hour. Just really bad.
@Djp_16
@Djp_16 8 ай бұрын
You and me both. I literally searched everywhere and even looked up standings. No info on the website it's crazy....
@coments101
@coments101 8 ай бұрын
Worse than amateur hour, AAL2 is amateur hour, this is just fucking sad. From having 2 full blown EA Sports video games to not even being a viable semi pro league is insane.
@Djp_16
@Djp_16 8 ай бұрын
I really do not understand why even try to bring a league back until you have all your ducks in a row smh. Which is sad cause a lot of people love Arena Football and alt sports In general. Just wish these leagues find a viable way to exist and sustain. I personally love Alt football like AFL, IFL, UFL etc. But fans will not continue to be hyped up for these leagues then get burned over n over n over again.
@inter_1097
@inter_1097 8 ай бұрын
@@coments101 I really thought the AFL was here to stay. It was getting decent crowds, lots of games on ABC.ESPN, next thing I knew they canceled the 2009 season and I was shocked..
@assassssasa
@assassssasa 8 ай бұрын
NBC AND ABC put top broadcasters on Arena football games in the 2000s
@Urineil
@Urineil 8 ай бұрын
And in the early 2000s the AFL was lit!
@dnasty312
@dnasty312 8 ай бұрын
​@@UrineilI still play my PS2 game! 🎮
@rockvilleraven
@rockvilleraven 7 ай бұрын
And I thought the last incarnation where owners owned more than one team were bad, this is even worse.
@chriscarpenter1420
@chriscarpenter1420 7 ай бұрын
We went 2 years w no TV.
@ahoneybee823
@ahoneybee823 8 ай бұрын
This video is how I found out the Arena league was back.
@cckeach7
@cckeach7 8 ай бұрын
I've been in broadcast media for 40 years and literally could find nothing on the so-called launch of the league last weekend...
@SoggyHotDoggy
@SoggyHotDoggy 8 ай бұрын
That makes two of us.
@TheGodKing13
@TheGodKing13 8 ай бұрын
Me too
@Bleub1rd
@Bleub1rd 8 ай бұрын
Same
@schuylerschultz804
@schuylerschultz804 8 ай бұрын
same
@gregoryreichart8620
@gregoryreichart8620 8 ай бұрын
So what you’re telling me is this is the AFL but if it was run by Bishop Sycamore’s administration…
@SuperMAXALLEN
@SuperMAXALLEN 8 ай бұрын
I been saying this! The man had a vision
@DrFrankensteam
@DrFrankensteam 8 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@Mclovinit8171
@Mclovinit8171 8 ай бұрын
wrong, Bishop Sycamore did actually make money for the people operating the scam. This scam is just losing money for everyone involved 😂
@BrandanTheBroker
@BrandanTheBroker 8 ай бұрын
Even Bishop Sycamore managed to do better, that makes this even worse 😂
@donkeysaurusrex7881
@donkeysaurusrex7881 8 ай бұрын
Bishop Sycamore Class of 95
@mrmoose6619
@mrmoose6619 8 ай бұрын
Sad. I remember when the AFL was on NBC and ESPN on the regular. Those were fun times watching and enjoying Now, the only thing I have heard about it was the Soul and their misadventures.
@matthewbourgeois5964
@matthewbourgeois5964 8 ай бұрын
They had a chance at really surviving. In my opinion, I think they expanded too quickly
@matthewwelsh294
@matthewwelsh294 8 ай бұрын
@@matthewbourgeois5964 They need to kick out Lee Hutton for starters
@tobymaxmax658
@tobymaxmax658 8 ай бұрын
The AFL should have been backed by the NFL. Teams could have used it for players on the bubble.
@SnackAttack77
@SnackAttack77 8 ай бұрын
I played for an AFL2 team back in 2008, the Peoria Pirates, and this sucks to see the league struggle like this. The game is FUN and way more intimate than any outdoor football organization. I really wish they'd get it together. You're right about the niche players being impacted by the league's ineptitude, had a college teammate, Emory Sammons, make a name for himself for the Soul during the same timeframe. There's players that could make this a career but the powers that be just don't get it.
@cckeach7
@cckeach7 8 ай бұрын
The leagues provide a great place for people that want another shot at football or just like playing the game and want to make a few bucks. The one thing that's happening now that is really encouraging for the future of arena football is the presence of so many children at games. Major League Baseball is just now seeing the effects that inflated ticket prices years ago have on today's attendance figures. The fact that families can actually afford to go to arena football games that can't afford to go to MLB, NFL, and MLS games bodes well for the future of the league.
@SnackAttack77
@SnackAttack77 8 ай бұрын
@KomonAthlete we played each other then, small world! You guys mopped the floor with us lol. Had a hell of a time for 3/4 season I played with them though, even though we were basically playing for free 🤣
@johngraves7828
@johngraves7828 7 ай бұрын
Peoria Pirates season ticket holder! I still remember the championship game against Green Bay. Great time!
@SnackAttack77
@SnackAttack77 7 ай бұрын
@@johngraves7828 had never been to the Midwest prior to going to Peoria, it's an awesome little city!
@BroadwayJoe99
@BroadwayJoe99 8 ай бұрын
Now that I think about it, I think that AFL 3.0's endgame is getting the IFL and/or NAL to buy the AFL's IP, then taking the money and running. Honestly, the only thing missing from those leagues is the one thing that made the Arena Football League stand out - the goalpost/net combos - and if they weren't part of the AFL's IP and thus copyrighted, the IFL and NAL would be using them, and the AFL would be gone like a fart in a hurricane. It wouldn't terribly surprise me that shortly after AFL 3.0 goes kaput, their IP is quietly sold to either the IFL or NAL in an attempt to recoup their losses.
@yuzumint3999
@yuzumint3999 8 ай бұрын
NAL does have the nets but their ruleset is a hybrid mix of indoor and arena no one wants. IFL has former AFL teams but they dont play by arena rules and theres no will to add nets or adopt a new ruleset. A lot of people want the AFL/arena rules back because of the higher pay for talent and faster pace. This is incredibly mismanaged but I don’t think it’s entirely cynical.
@TheTapeFarm
@TheTapeFarm 8 ай бұрын
The Nashville Kats game was awesome. They spent a bunch of money fixing up the arena. The field looked great. Block party outside the arena… a class product beginning to end.
@Erlov71
@Erlov71 8 ай бұрын
Show love to the IFL. Pick a team, go to games and support it.
@therockyreview1847
@therockyreview1847 8 ай бұрын
I agree. Im headed to Frisco with my buddies May 11th to support the Fighters! 🏈
@ReinSouls
@ReinSouls 8 ай бұрын
IFL needs to add one more team. They'll be at 19 next year With the addition of Columbus, Dakota, and Fishers. Ideally the team would be in either the Carolina's or Virginia somewhere. Got a massive population in the mid-Atlantic and no teams. Once they do that four divisions with 5 teams they'll be set.
@NemechekFan87
@NemechekFan87 8 ай бұрын
Hell, i drove 2 hours to Quad City to see the Steamwheelers play against the blizzard. The game was fun!
@Erlov71
@Erlov71 8 ай бұрын
@@NemechekFan87 i had never been to an arena ball game until this year. Drove an hour to watch the Panthers. Had alot of fun too. Team needs to do a better job promoting itself. Alot of ppl dont know they exist.
@farhanatashiga3721
@farhanatashiga3721 8 ай бұрын
Tulsa seems to have a good thing going for them
@rookie_x
@rookie_x 8 ай бұрын
Also I read the NAL files a lawsuit against west Texas desert hawks The reason why is The NAL alleges said that the team signed a three-year term to play in the league and left after only one year. AFL news updates: The Iowa rampage announced that team is going to discontinue
@elchris8788
@elchris8788 8 ай бұрын
West Texas desert hawks were the west Texas warbirds who played for the NAL last year
@zachbeaudoin4884
@zachbeaudoin4884 8 ай бұрын
Philadelphia Soul-of-the-Dallas-Falcons surviving the 1st week apparently was the biggest shock of Football in the last year
@AbdulAbusada1
@AbdulAbusada1 8 ай бұрын
3:38 that is me trying to hold the walls up in the bottom. The VooDoo was relocated from Lake Charles to Lafayette one week before kickoff due to issues, so everything had to be rushed and done quickly. The league hasn’t helped us with sending nets and money to financially prepare the stadium for a game, so we just did whatever we could, which was to set up temporary walls and nets. Hopefully the AFL can get new ownership and commissioner so this doesn’t all fall apart any more than it already is
@thetouchback
@thetouchback 8 ай бұрын
Much respect for doing that. Really impressive that you guys got the game played considering the lack of support.
@d4rkhydra136
@d4rkhydra136 23 күн бұрын
I was actually supposed to be signed to this team but because of this I wasn’t able to play
@DANGMQ
@DANGMQ 8 ай бұрын
The NAL is a little bit more stable than the AFL. Its main problem is that the NAL has teams that are constantly folding. They had 8 teams heading into the 2024 season, but two teams were kicked out of the NAL due to payment issues, which forced the NAL to reconfigure their schedule. However, the NAL's field and arenas are in much better condition than the AFL and all of their games are free on KZbin. The NAL had a bunch of teams leave following 2023, so 5 of the 6 current teams in the NAL are new to the NAL. Two of the NAL teams from 2023, Orlando Predators and West Texas left for the AFL and West Texas rebranded from Warbirds (in the NAL) to the Desert Hawks (in the AFL). Two other teams, the Jacksonville Sharks and San Antonio Gunslingers left for the IFL. The NAL added expansion to Colorado and Oklahoma but added the Omaha Beef and Sioux City Bandits from the CIF and the Idaho Horsemen from the lower level AWFC. The goal of the NAL should be to keep those six teams around for another year.
@cckeach7
@cckeach7 8 ай бұрын
My girlfriend and I have talked about the NAL and IFL merging... then working with the IFL and NFL to set up a true player development farm system
@derekcabanaw1789
@derekcabanaw1789 8 ай бұрын
It's amazing that the Omaha Beef is still in existence, because I was on the same plane as them flying from Denver to Billings in 2002.
@thezackast2752
@thezackast2752 8 ай бұрын
​@cckeach7 the ifl reportedly had a minor league deal set up with the xfl in 2023. Idk if it's still going though
@cckeach7
@cckeach7 8 ай бұрын
@@thezackast2752 I believe they had a deal where the IFL and XFL recognized each other as the top football organizations of their type in North America. They probably still have the same agreement in place despite the XFL-USFL merger.
@supersasukemaniac
@supersasukemaniac 8 ай бұрын
I just started watching an IFL game, Green Bay vs Iowa, holy crap,i'm loving it so far. Especially since it lives up to it's catchphrase of "The Indoor War"
@rher1636
@rher1636 8 ай бұрын
Lousiana Voodoo had to move venues days before kickoff. From Lake Charles to Lafayette. Almost a 2 hr drive and tickets were refunded.
@Weedmen337
@Weedmen337 8 ай бұрын
You know it’s bad when they were regulated to the Blackham. Lafayette has a 13k G league level venue in the Cajun Dome literally down the street.
@ReinSouls
@ReinSouls 8 ай бұрын
The writing was on the wall when they named a team "Washington". And it's not a team in DC. When you call a non-college team "Washington". Nobody is going to associate that with the state.
@dnasty312
@dnasty312 8 ай бұрын
Unless you're a rookie Russ Grimm LOL
@igorszamaszow171
@igorszamaszow171 8 ай бұрын
With some actual springtime football courtesy of UFL to follow, there's very little reason for AFL's existence
@supersasukemaniac
@supersasukemaniac 8 ай бұрын
Also,with Indoor Football League getting bigger and better, I don't think the current land scape of Indoor Football has room for the AFL, especially with how many AFL franchises currently claim IFL their permanent home.
@tomservo75
@tomservo75 8 ай бұрын
I've watched many minor leagues over the years. AFL, AFL2, WLAF, NFL Europe, USFL, XFL... I am a football junkie with a radar for finding minor leagues and an appetite for wanting to watch them. And I was an AFL fan during their heyday in the 90s and 00s, even having season tickets to the New Jersey Gladiators at one point (before they betrayed us and moved to Las Vegas and Cleveland). The fact that I am just hearing about the new AFL through this video says a lot.
@M_11_m41n
@M_11_m41n 8 ай бұрын
I do wish that the NFL or any football governing body with a lot of money can sponsor minor leagues.
@tomservo75
@tomservo75 8 ай бұрын
@@M_11_m41n Anything that ruins their absolute iron-fisted monopoly is just unacceptable to them.
@supersasukemaniac
@supersasukemaniac 8 ай бұрын
it's telling that the Screenshots of IFL and NAL feature a Historic AFL Team (IFL's Arizona Rattlers.) and a team from AFL 2.0 (Jacksonville Sharks of NAL). Oh yeah i forgot this little nugget too, the Iowa Barnstormers, you know, the team that put Kurt Warner on the map, is currently in the IFL and wants nothing to do with AFL anymore.
@Malachi_Marx
@Malachi_Marx 8 ай бұрын
The IFL players went into the stands to STOP a brawl because arena security REFUSED to do so. People need to STOP demonizing it.
@LegitLoki
@LegitLoki 8 ай бұрын
the iowa team folded today very sad didnt even get to see them at the home game looks like i will have to go to the omaha beef games still really miss having a team in my home town
@NashvilleFootballJunkie
@NashvilleFootballJunkie 8 ай бұрын
As a lifelong AFL fan, it’s sad to see. I’m a Kats fan and they seem to be one of 4 teams doing things right. Hopefully the IFL or the NAL can scoop up the 4 legit teams, Kats, Predators, Firebirds, and Outlaws. Sad to see this version of the AFL be such a shitshow.
@a11man30
@a11man30 8 ай бұрын
The Iowa Rampage have folded today (5/2/24) due to promises by the Arena Football League not being fulfilled and the AFL Leadership is silent. The Rapid City Marshalls put out a statement that gives an were trying to find a way out of the AFL and go back to what they were doing. The owners of the league I have heard via internet/social media sources is that they are shady people looking to always make a quick buck and screw anyone. I hope that karma hits the AFL ownership and no one does business with them again.
@BBallRambling
@BBallRambling 8 ай бұрын
I used to enjoy the AFL. The Rattlers were fun to watch both on tv and in person
@Donathon-qx8kq
@Donathon-qx8kq 8 ай бұрын
Their coach/owner was Danny White
@broadcastblast544
@broadcastblast544 8 ай бұрын
If you say one bad thing about this league on Reddit they ban you from the conversation. Sad.
@MR_Nosy_Otter1
@MR_Nosy_Otter1 8 ай бұрын
I mean that’s Reddit for ya
@DerrickRG
@DerrickRG 8 ай бұрын
What do you expect from an echo chamber?
@Trevor_Spinelli
@Trevor_Spinelli 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this vid…as a Soul fan, I have no words. I remember attending a Soul game in 2012 and the Valor-Brigade Super Bowl like 6 years back (mind you there was four teams then) what happened man. A team just folded and I expect another 8 to asap. 😭
@benallen2196
@benallen2196 8 ай бұрын
7:05 I literally did this while watching the video. I miss the original arena football League and I didn't even know that they came back in this version until watching this video. I went to the old website looking to see if there was a team somewhat near me and they didn't even have a list of teams on the website.
@connorbean1162
@connorbean1162 8 ай бұрын
And the worst part is Albany, Orlando, Nashville, potentially Minnesota are all competent ran franchises. I hope when the league folds the IFL takes them in
@supersasukemaniac
@supersasukemaniac 8 ай бұрын
Orlando was in NAL prior,and apparently had a sweetheart deal. Hopefully they can get that back.
@michaelwalker7400
@michaelwalker7400 8 ай бұрын
We should have known it was going to be this bad when the Soul's new logo looked like it was an AI generation of a 4th graders idea of what the old logo looked like, that half the league has all black uniforms, that a team moved 75 miles overnight a week before the season starts to an arena that can't support their actual field goal posts and nets.
@Lancer21
@Lancer21 8 ай бұрын
At least the IFL is able to figure out how to be stable. The AFL is just becoming the new AAF
@studentathlete7751
@studentathlete7751 6 ай бұрын
The Arena Football League is not what it used to be. The classic Arena Football League from 1987-2015 was lit 🔥
@r0astedduck
@r0astedduck 8 ай бұрын
I was at the final 2 games for the San Jose Sabercats, when they had to play their conference championship game and the arena bowl at the Stockton Arena. It was a great time, and the only time I watched AFL football live, only for the team to fold immediately after. It doesn't surprise me that this AFL is failing if they couldn't keep a mainstay team from their past alive
@lonelychameleon3595
@lonelychameleon3595 8 ай бұрын
I didn't even know the AFL was revived...
@jakepophal985
@jakepophal985 8 ай бұрын
Used to love it as kid
@supersasukemaniac
@supersasukemaniac 8 ай бұрын
​@@jakepophal985same, I loved original AFL and the first 3 seasons of AFL 2.0.
@dantebegano
@dantebegano 8 ай бұрын
The IFL is where it’s at in todays indoor football
@zc6970
@zc6970 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been playing the old AFL game on the XBOX. My home town just recently got a IFL team (oilers) and oh boy was I excited. Got Oilers season tickets day one. I got excited to see the AFL was back. I went looking for a AFL game for atleast an hour. Would you blame me for being insanely disappointed week 1 after not being able to find a single stream and just tuning into a IFL game??
@AnotherFootballl
@AnotherFootballl 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely not. AFL has huge problem with visibility of their games. IFL and NAL you can watch on KZbin and this magic called AFL you need to search in some local TV.
@rickyrosay33977
@rickyrosay33977 7 ай бұрын
All of these AFL failures are giving the IFL more momentum i habe the frisco fighters here in DFW as my IFL team i also used to play that AFL game but I don't care about the revival the IFL has my attention
@Crunchtime7890
@Crunchtime7890 8 ай бұрын
My guess they lost access to the OG site. Someone that is no longer a part of the league probably own the site and wont turn it over.
@downnice95
@downnice95 8 ай бұрын
At this point the Australian Football league is bigger in America than the Arena Football League
@Golfnut_2099
@Golfnut_2099 7 ай бұрын
AFL...
@Jefff72
@Jefff72 7 ай бұрын
I liked Ozzy Man's comparing hits in Aussie football vs soccer.
@The_Walnoys
@The_Walnoys 8 ай бұрын
As a teen stumbling into a retro game store and picking up Arena Football on the PS2 back in 2019, The sport gave me an entry point to love Football. This is just painful seeing that something different and unique to watch is struggling with history to back it up especially not knowing that the 3rd reincarnation was underway. Just let it die already. The only time I could see it work is it being a summer league, not a spring one competing with the UFL (USFL/XFL) and using it as a third minor league thing like how the NHL has the AHL-ECHL-OHL/WHA. Edit: Maybe have the first season just be a month with 4-6 teams at one place with it being on ESPN/ESPN2 or the local sports channel on public access.
@supersasukemaniac
@supersasukemaniac 8 ай бұрын
I think it would have worked,,if the market for Indoor Football wasn't so congested now, you can watch both IFL and NAL for free on their KZbin channels. AFL you can't watch with out jumping through a bunch if hoops right now.
@Erlov71
@Erlov71 8 ай бұрын
Indoor ball was already running a bit thin with the leagues already playing. So these dudes decide to add 16 news teams. Yea you could see this coming. NAL and AIF would be smart to merge if possible.
@IncorrigibleBigotry
@IncorrigibleBigotry 8 ай бұрын
Got this video in my recommendations. Saw it, enjoyed it, subscribed. Well done.
@Sorrell1GK
@Sorrell1GK 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this well researched video. I was a big AFL fan. I even watched all the games when they had 4 teams. Even watched their Arena Bowl championship when a team that went winless in the regular season won the championship. Damn shame these people can’t get their act together. Again, thank you for the insightful video. Found more info in your vid than I did in hours and hours of online research!
@michaelwalker7400
@michaelwalker7400 8 ай бұрын
If the league survives this year, they need to go crawling to the IFL and ask to merge. They expected just saying they are back would get the Barnstormers, Rattlers and other legacy AFL teams to jump back on the bus and I'm glad that didn't happen because then those legacy teams would be stuck with the stink of the new AFL on them.
@supersasukemaniac
@supersasukemaniac 8 ай бұрын
I mean the Ratllers didn't even return to AFL 2.0, what made them think they would come back for Round 3, and, while Iowa did start with AFL 2.0,being one of the legacy teams from the af2, they left pretty quick.
@FAITHandLOGIC
@FAITHandLOGIC 8 ай бұрын
I got into the AFL for about 4-5 years from 2003 - 2008. It was fun while it lasted but I was done after that.
@PatAnthonyMD
@PatAnthonyMD 7 ай бұрын
Former Baltimore Brigade season ticket holder here. It's really sad to see what this league has become.
@snaphackelpop
@snaphackelpop 8 ай бұрын
My buddy’s dad had an in with the Green Bay Blizzard so we got to hit up some games. Good times, man
@supersasukemaniac
@supersasukemaniac 8 ай бұрын
Now the Rapid City Marshalls' owner chimed in saying "I'm upholding my end of the bargain,and trying to do right by my players." He even said he sees more teams potentially folding as soon as Monday,and has already told his players "if we don't hear anything from the league in 1 to 2 days,you have permission to leave."
@farhanatashiga3721
@farhanatashiga3721 8 ай бұрын
Well it's Tuesday now
@davidg1612
@davidg1612 8 ай бұрын
2:36 What the hell is that? The field turf looks like shit and that opening in the screen is supposed to be the goalposts? Oh, they're already screwed if the whole league is like this.
@Weedmen337
@Weedmen337 8 ай бұрын
That’s what happens when you move to a venue that doesn’t hold sporting events a week before week one.
@brosciencegutfeelings7058
@brosciencegutfeelings7058 8 ай бұрын
I was hoping for some more logistical and statistical reasoning & explanation in this video. As in what exactly is the IFL doing differently & what were the quoted reasons the Vegas owners chose to stay. Etc
@cranjismcbasketball1638
@cranjismcbasketball1638 8 ай бұрын
I'm really glad Indy's new arena team (Fishers Freight) is joining the IFL instead of the AFL after seeing this
@Damonicus1
@Damonicus1 8 ай бұрын
As an Australian, I had the PS2 game, and I loved it. It was my introduction to Arena Football.
@inter_1097
@inter_1097 8 ай бұрын
Wonder how many Aussies picked it up thinking AFL meant Australian Football League and wondered why no Collingwood players weren't on the cover?
@jjthebeerman
@jjthebeerman 8 ай бұрын
I'm so glad the Tampa Bay Storm is not part of this debacle!
@joeblenkle5546
@joeblenkle5546 8 ай бұрын
Wow, honestly I didn't know indoor football was still a thing. I used to cover a local team for the newspaper I worked for. It was a lot of fun. This was back in the early 90s. The team was only there a year. Can't remember if they moved or the league folded.
@matthewwelsh294
@matthewwelsh294 8 ай бұрын
I think the AFL was the only league back in the early 90s
@Mclovinit8171
@Mclovinit8171 8 ай бұрын
The Iowa rampage just folded and wrote a letter basically blaming the AFL in detail and how the afl screwed their ownership out of money, more will probs follow.
@Californiaexpat
@Californiaexpat 8 ай бұрын
It comes down to promotion… I live in the city where the Oregon Black Bears play and there has been zero promotion, no one knows about the league… the times I’ve brought it up no one has a clue the AFL is in town Where are the Billboards? Where are the Radio ads? Where are placed marketing online? If no one knows, no one will show up
@YaowBucketHEAD
@YaowBucketHEAD 8 ай бұрын
As someone who's sorta followed Arena Football on and off for a while now, I always thought there's an audience for Arena Football, but it needs stability, competent managment, and an investor who's realistically willing to take some losses for a few years until everything gets grounded and moving smoothly. I think (and it might be a poor thought) that all arena teams in the country need to be in one league. Some serious merging needs to happen. This new league also needs some serious PR/advertising to get fans in the stands and a viable streaming app (I imagine finding a television network might be pretty difficult at the beginning) to garner interest and fan loyalty, which equals the teams and leagues making money. I think arena football can exist as a niche league that has a smaller yet loyal fanbase, it just needs competent, realistic, and maybe even a little conservative management to survive. I'm not sure about finding athletes to participate. I'm sure there's guys who "washed out' in the NFL and undrafted college players who want to keep playing, but trying to convince them to play for a circus of a league is the most difficult challenge they have right now.
@CGMedia2023
@CGMedia2023 8 ай бұрын
I remember the trash talking from the AFL back in the 2000s when they were claiming that they were going to take down the NFL. Good times...
@peytonsawyer9461
@peytonsawyer9461 8 ай бұрын
I was looking forward to the arena football league being back especially since they have the voodoo a team that was loved in south Louisiana so many years ago. Now after this I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the weekend or this time next week the league will be shut down.
@violinfanatickamraz1403
@violinfanatickamraz1403 8 ай бұрын
Hey. Thanks for showing the local team, Billings Outlaws!
@Phillyfan9307
@Phillyfan9307 8 ай бұрын
I long for the days of Jon Bon Jovi, Ron Jaworski and Pete Chiarocci. This shit is insane. Who the fuck owns the franchise?
@jerb22471
@jerb22471 8 ай бұрын
back in July last year they announced Tallahassee Florida was getting an AFL team. It was announced from several sources. Well 8 months later, no team... did a search and could find no information about when they pulled out. It is like it never happened.
@FenriRock
@FenriRock 8 ай бұрын
I want the Sabercats back so bad.. but not with this AFL… thankfully we have the Panthers
@Jefff72
@Jefff72 7 ай бұрын
I also imagined a Canadian version but with 3 downs and multiple players in motion. Doesn't the IFL allow a player in forward motion?
@thetouchback
@thetouchback 7 ай бұрын
I forget which one, but there was an arena/indoor football league that had the rouge.
@Jefff72
@Jefff72 7 ай бұрын
@@thetouchback Oh ya, that's right. I don't remember either which one it was.
@inter_1097
@inter_1097 8 ай бұрын
When AFL 2.0, folded I was waiting for teams to jump to other leagues but none of them did. I wonder why? A few teams jumped to other leagues before it folded (ex: Rattlers to IFL) but once AFL 2.0 went under, none of the teams found other leagues to play in.
@matthewwelsh294
@matthewwelsh294 8 ай бұрын
The Albany Empire went to the NAL
@Atomykpimp
@Atomykpimp 8 ай бұрын
I remember A&E did the reality show about the L.A. Kiss Arena team owned by Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley. The show was good but I think the team folded after one year.
@donkeysaurusrex7881
@donkeysaurusrex7881 8 ай бұрын
Jerry Jones owned an AFL team, and so did John Bon Jovi. I’ve never understood how the AFL failed with so many owners with deep pockets and a tv deal with NBC and ESPN.
@boredwibilly
@boredwibilly 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the deep-dive! Seriously, I didn't even know this was happening until I heard of the headlines of the AFL's imminent failure. (I think there was a quick shout-out on Pat McAfee's show?) There's marketing and organizational mission, and then there's how to execute it. The AFL seems to have blown the "how to..." part of things. Ooof. Even without NFL collaboration, I feel there's a lot of potential for lesser leagues like the AFL to both put on a good show and give lots of deserving players game tape for recruitment.
@taconative334
@taconative334 8 ай бұрын
Wow I was excited because my town (Salem Oregon) finally got a sports team I can go watch and now it seems like I won’t have long to cheer them on. I want to go to their next game because I don’t know if I ever will have a chance if I don’t!😭
@thetouchback
@thetouchback 8 ай бұрын
Definitely get out there if you can. It's a shame what happened to the Volcanoes. It would be nice for Salem to have something sports-wise.
@SuperBoomshack
@SuperBoomshack 8 ай бұрын
I had no idea this was still a thing
@matthewwelsh294
@matthewwelsh294 8 ай бұрын
The IFL should be happy that this AFL is nowhere close to the 2000s AFL
@studentathlete7751
@studentathlete7751 6 ай бұрын
If the AFL was still what it was from 1987-2015, not even the IFL would even exist. Arena football 🏈 isn’t what it used to be. Even the IFL doesn’t compare to the classic Arena Football League from 1987-2015.
@matthewwelsh294
@matthewwelsh294 6 ай бұрын
@@studentathlete7751 Yep and Hutton should be in prison asap. Love if the classic AFL can come back
@studentathlete7751
@studentathlete7751 6 ай бұрын
@@matthewwelsh294 yeah the classic Arena Football League was actually broadcasted on television ESPN, NFL Network, CBS Sports Network, NBC Sports, ABC, FSN, and TNN and the games in the arenas were crowded and packed.
@ThePhl4ever
@ThePhl4ever 8 ай бұрын
I knew it was going to be dumpster fire from the weird presser when the Soul initially were going to be playing every game on the road and then were given home games in New Jersey, not really near Philly at all. EDIT: I guess their home games are in Trenton, not terribly far from Philly but also not really in the Philly market.
@Z64sports
@Z64sports 8 ай бұрын
The website thing while important it isn't where I go for most things. I go to Wikipedia for that and it is updated at least weekly. I could see lots of other people doing that too
@redharlan40entertainment
@redharlan40entertainment 8 ай бұрын
The Arena League is back? I couldn’t hear them over the currently undefeated Bay Area Panthers of the IFL. Wow, talk about not starting off on the right foot.
@christophermoses944
@christophermoses944 7 ай бұрын
I live in Orlando and didn’t know the Predators were back till like a week ago.
@tommy_bahama97
@tommy_bahama97 8 ай бұрын
I was actually at the Voodoo game and it was concerning to say the least. There wasn’t a stretcher for a dude on the soul who no doubt blew out everything in his knee so we watched them help this guy hobble off the field and it took a minimum of 5 minutes.
@kevinthetruckdriver353
@kevinthetruckdriver353 7 ай бұрын
According to Wkipedia. The interim AFL Commissioner is no other than former NFL St. Louis/LA Rams Head Coach Jeff *"8 & 8 is bullskit"* Fischer. That explains a lot. P.S. - I used to watch the AFL in its heyday. Thought it was fine to watch.
@robmclean4352
@robmclean4352 8 ай бұрын
It doesn't help that most of the markets in this supposedly national "major" league really belong in af2 (or would if it still existed!). The AFL has no teams in New York, Los Angeles or Chicago...and *three* in Kansas...?! (And those attendances: in the four games in which they've actually released numbers, they averaged just 3,354...compare that to AFL1.0, which averaged 11,205, or even the second incarnation, which averaged 8,359! Yikes!)
@markschnabel1353
@markschnabel1353 8 ай бұрын
Two of those teams played in a different league last year. The other was going to join that league this year.
@danielevensen5539
@danielevensen5539 8 ай бұрын
This is a really good video. I don't follow Arena football at all - but I have to tell you that this video is fascinating and is really well done. I'm going to watch more of your stuff. Kudos!
@julianrengifo5679
@julianrengifo5679 8 ай бұрын
Wow, it’s good thing the Atlantic City BlackJacks didn’t come back then. Maybe they can fit into the IFL, but right now I’m a Jersey Bearcats fan for AAL2 .
@BlueOpinion
@BlueOpinion 8 ай бұрын
Sad, sad... sad. I went to an arena football game in 2012. It was a good game and the crowd was strong. About 1,500+ in attendance.
@donkeysaurusrex7881
@donkeysaurusrex7881 8 ай бұрын
Fighting in the stands with the fans is tight! Really makes you part of the game. Why is this the first I have heard of the Indoor Football League?
@UltimaOmega
@UltimaOmega 8 ай бұрын
The only reason I learned that the AFL was restarting is because I follow the Rapid City team and I was surprised to learn that they were moving to the AFL after only one year in existence. Personally, I would rather see Rapid City join the IFL if for any reason, for a game between them and my local team, the Sioux Falls Storm. But best of luck to Rapid City and best of luck to the AFL.
@doctorhino8736
@doctorhino8736 8 ай бұрын
To do a URL redirect you have to have admin access to the DNS records for the original website. I think someone is holding off transferring the website until they get paid for their url and the people owning the league are holding out by just making a new site. I would be willing to bet that original sites refresh in 2023 was made on an unpaid IOU.
@MoosefeetProductions
@MoosefeetProductions 8 ай бұрын
Was never a huge AFL fan but its downfall is truly sad. I remember watching San Jose Sabercats games on NBC in the early 2000s. There was a time when they and the sharks were pretty much the only good thing going on in Bay Area sports.
@thetouchback
@thetouchback 8 ай бұрын
The Sabercats were bigger than the Earthquakes in the early 2000s.
@robertpaige4505
@robertpaige4505 8 ай бұрын
So in wrestling terms: The AFL is the NWA: once the king of the industry, now a pathetic also-ran. The IFL is the WWE: Once a subsidiary of the leader, now at the top of the food chain.
@Sensei_Gleech
@Sensei_Gleech 8 ай бұрын
Heyyy I was apart of that 2018 Iowa championship team in the picture 👀 the IFL and the NAL are the most experienced now when it comes to the arena game i think those are the best for competition it seems like a lot of IFL and NAL guys went over to the AFL with expectations of more opportunity
@calereliya
@calereliya 7 ай бұрын
I loved the original incarnation of it and this video is also how I found out it was back. The one clip you showed where the scoreboard ticker was just a video of the scoreboard made me HOWL. Even university sports here (hi from western Canada) have a mostly uniform score ticker (sometimes the font for the score varies a bit, but whatever). If you can’t even figure out how to get a score bug onto your broadcast, you don’t really have a right to exist as a pro league.
@SuperJNG18
@SuperJNG18 8 ай бұрын
The only AFL I care about is the Australian Football League. Yes, you gotta get up at obscene hours to watch a bizarre hybrid of rugby, soccer, and OUR football, but my lord is it fun to watch. (My team is the Greater Western Sydney Giants, for what it's worth. #BigBigSound)
@Barto0482
@Barto0482 8 ай бұрын
FACTS!
@christopherrobinmarriott7218
@christopherrobinmarriott7218 8 ай бұрын
They already existing football leagues, which have been sustainable for years should all band together under the banner of AFL. Kind of like the AFL in NFL did But more to what the American League and the National League did under the banner of Major League Baseball. They never played each other (Until the wretched play was introduced recently) Until the winner of the American League would play the winner of the National League in the World Series. That is the only way the AFL can prosper
@rocknorris9508
@rocknorris9508 8 ай бұрын
Such a shame. I grew up watching the birth and dominance of the Tampa Bay Storm, even way back to the blue and magenta Zubaz pants. God it was so much fun at the games. These videos of current games are such a pale imitation of that old vibe.
@MetroPlaysThis
@MetroPlaysThis 8 ай бұрын
I personally know a coach who recruited me to play for the IOWA RAMPAGE and they have ceased operations before receiving jerseys WEEK 1
@donkeysaurusrex7881
@donkeysaurusrex7881 8 ай бұрын
You really dodged a bullet there it seems
@DuckAvenger
@DuckAvenger 8 ай бұрын
I was a big afl fan in the early 2000s I think it was NBC after NFL season ended. I loved it and we had a minor league afl team in my town for awhile. Would have liked to see a new league with them but as you said I didn't know it happened
@joshjacobson9846
@joshjacobson9846 8 ай бұрын
The old website made me think this video was older than the posted date
@tylermishchenko6391
@tylermishchenko6391 8 ай бұрын
Great video. I remember when the AFL was on NBC as a kid I got instantly hooked to the Philadelphia Soul. Eventually got season tickets. This joke of a commissioner now makes sense why Jaws wanted nothing to do with it. I met Bon fucking Jovi at an arena game when he was a partial owner! I was really excited so see the soul again after that loss in the final in the last season. Very disappointed to see how they used the Souls fantastic pedigree and destroyed it.
@tylermishchenko6391
@tylermishchenko6391 8 ай бұрын
I had a feeling when the soul who used to play in a damn 20,000 seat arena were a “travel team” then announced to be playing home games in Trenton that this was fishy. But never thought it would be this bad
@psgchisolm
@psgchisolm 8 ай бұрын
Just found this channel and before i watched your video I decided to check out the website and see what teams they had... I went to the old website and like you said exactly. Thought they washed out. Thanks for the heads up but I'm not checking out the new site either. Like you said if they can do the bare minimum then it's not a good sign for the league.
@LIFEWITHTHEJONESES1
@LIFEWITHTHEJONESES1 8 ай бұрын
I remember growing up in the 90s and early 00s being a Nashville Kats fan and the afl being a cool spring alternative to the nfl. It's so sad to see that this is what week one looked like.
@AdamFrom614
@AdamFrom614 8 ай бұрын
The only reason I knew it was back was Pat Mcafee mentioned the players getting kicked out of the super8 and the crooked goal post.
@chriscarpenter1420
@chriscarpenter1420 7 ай бұрын
KC Brigade Jersey! I was the GM of Brigade/Command a dozen years ago. Even I don't have one of those.
@tobymaxmax658
@tobymaxmax658 8 ай бұрын
IFL games are fun. I loved the old AFL games. To me this should have been Spring football.
@TheFort87
@TheFort87 8 ай бұрын
When that Chinese indoor league in 2011 was basically the NFL to AFL 3.0’s 4th grade pick-up recess game
@georgeblangfordjr.1771
@georgeblangfordjr.1771 8 ай бұрын
Don't forget the Vegas Knight Hawks of the IFL,is by owned by the guy who own the NHL's Vegas Golden Knights 🏒 team
@farhanatashiga3721
@farhanatashiga3721 8 ай бұрын
Having an IFL team to the side of having a hockey team seems to be a trend going there
@steezeaustin316
@steezeaustin316 8 ай бұрын
I wish this league would thrive but I already knew it was gonna fail with literally zero advertising prior to the season. I would have liked to go to some Oregon Blackbear games since we don’t have a pro football team in Oregon but it’s looking like this is gonna be their only season 😭
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