The New Can-Am Motorbikes- Can They Work in the Real World?

[@plumcrazyswede]

Big Swed here, I've owned and restored a lovely DR800s during last winter. I paid 1500$ last year and sold it for 3000$ And I miss it so much. I have a video on it on my channel if anyone would be interested. Í can really reccomend buying one for anyone, especially taller riders. (i'm 6'8" or 203cm) Also the XT660 is a lovely bike. One of my best friends has one as an offroader and Loves it!

[@IOSARBX]

Tuesday at Dobbs’, I'm hooked on your videos, keep them rolling

[@jenk.4906]

Hi , you mentioned Harley Davidson stores closing, it’s happening in the US as well, not on a large scale but it’s started happening. My husband and I bought a new Harley Each in December 2023.. After 8 months we want to sell and go back to adventure bikes, in there lies the problem, no dealer wants our Harley’s to trade, they are not interested at all, or being offered ridiculous prices e.g. $3000 for a 2023 Harley bike with 3000 miles on the clock!!

[@allanhughes7859]

Just loved the alarm bit split my sides This is why you ARE SO GOOD TO WATCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@MH-xd2nd]

Tuesday means a good day!

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

I hope you enjoy it!:)

[@lizardlost9692]

Check out Nathan Millwood at Dorothy’s Speed Shop. He rode an Aussie postie bike from Sydney to the UK as well as many other international trips all on small unpretentious bikes. He keeps it real.

[@thomascharnock]

That alarm should get a co-hosting credit in this video 😂

[@peakrider4886]

Hi Freddie. Thanks for reading out my comment and mentioning Nathan as well. If you come down to Cornwall again I’d be happy to meet up and let you sample the W800 (no off-roading though)! 😂

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

I love the sound of this! And no off roading, I promise😆 Ic you’re happy to do so, could you ping me an email to [e-mail] , or you can contact me through my website (www.freddiedobbs.com)- so I can save your details:)

[@peakrider4886]

@@tuesdayatdobbs sent you a message through the website. Cheers, Richard

[@seanlock5614]

Always look forward to your videos on Tuesday Freddie, picking up my brand new NT1100 DCT in valencia tomorrow. Can't wait. Keep up the good work

[@SomewhereInside]

I took one for a one hour test ride here in Australia , loved the engine ,overall balance and relatively low seat height. The windscreen is great also on motorway. Enjoy .

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

I hope you enjoy it, Sean!

[@MsMrglenn]

People just don’t ride big cruisers anymore that was 20 years ago. They are dirt cheap to buy with just a few miles on them. People want Adventure bikes now. And old classics like Triumph. Love the show 😎

And that's nice when buying a big Japs cruiser. But bad when trying to sell them. It took me 4 months to sell my 1999 Suzuki Intruder VL1500 with 20.000km on it this year. (In Sweden)

[@laius6047]

Which ones?

[@sambagogo777]

"An adventure bike with a range of 71 miles." That's the CLAIMED range. The actual range will very likely be markedly lower still!

[@andyaptc2907]

A long time ago Bridgit Bardot sang the "Harley Davidson" song in her lovely French accent; Harley should use this again to invigorate fans; Bardot is smashing!

[@flexywing]

Freddie, were you REALLY leaning on that guys Harley, tut tut

[@CarlosTilbury]

Hi Freddie, Bahnstormers at Maidenhead has closed at short notice too, their Dealer in Alton is taking all its the stock and carrrying out the servicing, I think the market is going pear shaped. Keep up the great content.

[@mrcintheuk4641]

Watford Harley Davidson is my local dealership. There is a Triumph dealership next door and I believe they share the same workshop space. It'll be interesting to see if Triumph expands into the Harley space or if they rent it out.

[@dankorolyk5917]

Another great episode

[@johnnelson9764]

Freddie nice to view yet another interesting video on a wide range of new and old bikes and the various offers. I must say I totally agree that the Honda CB1100EX is a fantastic motorcycle and mixes old world style , comfortable and looks! It is one of those modern retros that I feel is very true to the 70s/80s era as as the last of the air cooled bikes Honda engineered many old type feature. One being when you stop for that needed coffee as you stand beside it, there is a clicking sound as the engine fins cool the bike! Just stunning! It was a two minute impulse buy as I was in Honda two years ago ordering a new CB500X and the bike had been started up to show someone. He went off thinking about it I walked over sat on bike started it and bought it on the spot! I have had many bikes and still have four but the CB 1100EX blows my mind and others every single time I go out on it! Keep up the good vibes! Regards John

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

Fantastic story!

[@wouterb9996]

Also the yamaha 660 engine has been used in the original MT-03 (2006-2016). Before the MT-03 became a hi-revving 300cc 2cyl. and MT- stood for Monster Torque. It's a 170kg hooligan bike which loves to be ridden supermotard style. Although my wife tours on it, even 180mls highway days.

[@ktmmark]

Marcus Travels is doing well on his Zero. Been going round the world for over a year in his Electric Bike. But i think we need the next Generation of Battery before things move Forward.

[@volt8684]

Fascinating about the ecus. I am mates with an ex helicopter avionics electric expert and what he does with ecu and code busting is mind boggling. Oscilloscopes and much more and is like a walk in the park to him. He is medically retired but does code busting on the Side for dealers. Loves the exotica of bikes and cars too the more complicated the better.

[@lauraiss1027]

Freddy, I believe your phone being located on the right is recording the sound. I'm on earphones and may be it's the problem with my setup, but it feels like left earphone is ~60% and right one is ~40%. I would love that someone from audience confirms or denies that, so I know that problem is or isn't on my side.

[@Gurra_Gforce]

Same here, on my airpods

[@lauraiss1027]

@@Gurra_Gforce Thank you! So it's not my earphones.

[@tbillington]

He doesn't use the phone to record sound though, he's wearing a mic.

[@ant_ramos]

Yeah it doesn't seem to be the phone mixing in the recording but there's some offset towards the left side for sure.

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

Hmmmm, thanks for the heads up- I’ll look into this now

[@stevebath9266]

Hi Freddie. I have had the same problem with Honda Re parts. I ride a 2022 CMX 500 rebel, and my rear wheel bearing collapsed recently. I am fairly sure it is the same wheel on a couple of other Honda 500 models too. Fortunately, it was just over a month before the 2 year warrantee ran out ( they did tell me that sometimes the unlimited mileage warrantee didn't apply to high mileage bikes???? I've done 34000 miles in 2 years. Honda doesn't always accept a claim apparently, but they did accept mine.) Unfortunately, they again had no Parts in the country, and didn't know when they were going to be in the country! I would like to say that the dealership is always excellent, never had such good customer service. it must be a Honda problem with parts. The other thing that struck me when I did get the bike back (1 day before the warrantee expired, was that the parts would have cost over £500! how can a small part of 1 wheel cost over £500 on a bike that was £6500 new?! Just a couple of thoughts Steve

[@kokilimonke]

I really like the design of the Can-am origin. Put a petrol engine in it and it will sell.

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

I like the design too- it’s a good looking bike, and an excellent looking electric bike!⚡️

[@JaythanRodriguez]

Looks really similar to the Husqvarna Norden 901

[@davidgroat3625]

You should also check out the Yamaha XTZ660 - bit more of an Adventure style same engine.

[@AlexOnABoat]

I'm not surprised by Lind closing their Harley dealerships, what surprised me was that they opened them in the first place. Buying a Harley is hardly an impulse purchase, if I was thinking of buying a new one I'd research online and decide my specs (we'll come back to that) and then I'd make it a day out, something special, and being that close to London what could be more special than a trip to Warrs? And speaking of researching online, have you seen the hot mess that is Harley's website? Let's say I want to buy a new Softail (the only one under £20k), but I want to take a pillion, there's no configurator! So I have to blunder through the 535 accessories, trying to work out what I want or need, with no real idea of what my bike is going to look like. Compare that to the likes of Triumph, where I can see the accessories added to my bike, and it tells me that if I want X that I'll need Y to go with it, and that it's incompatible with Z. And that's before we get onto trying to price everything up. Harley just seem to be resting on their laurels, there's nothing that could be considered entry level in terms of pricing, in a world of retro-classic bikes like the Triumphs and Royal Enfields Harley seem not to be capitalising on their heritage at all. And as for their attempt to break into the Indian market with their Hero produced Harley-Davidson X440, it's nether fish nor foul, with just a hint of Harley bolted onto an unremarkable looking commuter bike. You would think, given the popularity of the Royal Enfield cruisers, that Hardly Able-To would have built something that looked like a Harley, and not just a Universal Indian Motorcycle.

[@AlexOnABoat]

PS Freddie, there's three Monkeys on ebay for less than that but pricing is very strange it doesn't seem to match either the year or the mileage with Monkeys, so you can have a lower mileage 2022 model priced for less than a 2020. It seems to be a bit of a postcode lottery. PPS if you find a yellow or black model in London, you're not allowed to buy it without letting me know first, I'm so tempted.

[@Morrismarina]

Amen to that! By the end of the 80s the sports bike market had changed so much that I figured it was time to trade my 6-year-old example for something newer and faster. I took a few test rides but all they served to do was convince me - due to how easy they were to ride stupid-fast - that I'd either hurt myself or lose my licence within a month. After a lot of brow beating I actually decided to keep the bike I'd got and (to satisfy the urge to buy something new)... buy a 883 Sportster to go with it. The result was that, in late 1989, I rode over to Warr's in Chelsea to take a look at one. They still had the 'small' shop back then and still closed for lunch, and so I got talking with another guy outside, while we waited for them to reopen. He had even more certainty of why he was there than I did, and told me he was there to buy a new 'big' Harley. He was going to be spending some serious money that day! I asked him what bikes he'd had before and he replied: "None: I borrowed a bike to do my test, and now I'm here to buy the bike I've always wanted!" I had to admire his reasoning, which seemed to make as much sense if not more, than mine. Inside, I looked at the 883, liked what I saw, and placed an order there and then. It's gone now, but I actually had many good years out of that bike. But here's a point of note. In 1989 I was able to buy that Sportster for something like £4,500, give or take £100. Just a little while back (maybe a year or two ago), it was a friend, who had also got into Harleys, who was reminiscing about how, back then, the company's philosophy had been to sell the 883 at a genuine "entry level" sort of price, as a machine that would draw buyers to the brand, with the intention to create a loyalty that would hopefully attract them back to trade up to a bigger (/more expensive) one in the future. It was, however, the next thing he said that blew me away. By the 2020s, apparently, the cheapest Sportster was about £14,000. Gulp! Gotta say, I was pretty gobsmacked. It was him who pointed out the anomaly; the contradiction to the earlier philosophy. If you do cease to provide an "entry level" model, it seems a fair chance that people won't buy a first one, let alone a second or a third.

[@longjonwhite]

TBF, I guess everything’s gone up a bit since 1989, the average house price in London then was £80,000,,,, now it’s £550,000…

[@Ernes446]

totally agree on the Can-Am. Love my model 3, best car I've owned, and use my e-bike often, but electric motorcycles are tricky. Harley Mulholland does look great

[@Bigfatbobbbb]

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[@dennisbuckley]

@@Bigfatbobbbb🙄

[@Uncle_Tijikun]

Freddie, a comment and a question On the topic of old bikes: I am not mechanically inclined at all, but there is something comforting in knowing I can kind of understand everything that is going on in my 06 Kawasaki VN80O just by looking really hard at it. Old bikes are simpler, reliable and oftentimes better built if you compare the budget. I think the most tech a bike really needs is all disc brakes, abs and EFI. Mine doesn't have any of it and it still feels amazing every time I fire it up and the V-TWIN comes alive shaking and grumbling. But maybe I'm just a nostalgic, or I've been very lucky with my old lump of iron. Now for the question: I am considering a change of exhaust for my VN, but except for the very cheap AliExpress/eBay specials I can't find anything that is not £450+ I'm asking for yours and the community help to find something, otherwise I might be forced to simply debaffle the stock exhaust, which is also tempting 😂😂😂 Keep up the great work with the podcast and videos, and let's do a meet and greet in Scotland sometimes! Davide, the Scottish Neapolitan

[@tweetchris46]

FREDDY remember that 71 miles is claimed. Realistically it’s going to be more like 50, possibly less, if riding at the National speed limit

[@leeoflincoln7062]

I agree with you completely on electric bikes. I have ridden one in China and I thought it was a truly superb experience but the owner told me the practical range can be less than fifty miles, particularly in cold weather. He only uses it as his ride to work and has to recharge every night. Given such a massive limitation they can only be used for short commutes, which makes me wonder why manufacturers use electric for anything bigger than a moped?

[@Steve-s8k]

The manufacturers are probably getting a massive grant no doubt.

[@kbarnbrook4993]

The yam xt660r is for tall riders with a 34" seat height.

[@revsinc]

i brought a xt660 brand new, i had 5 bikes at the time and it was my favourite , it was the biggest mistake of my life when i sold !!

[@paulcaswell9783]

Yamaha also do an x version ( super moto )and a tenere version

[@RobynBazlen-Weglarz]

Hi Freddie, my wife and I both ride,I’ve been riding for 53 years (I’m 71)and my wife only just started riding 3 years ago at age 52. She never felt really comfortable on 2 wheels and it was always difficult to get her to ride so I would most times ride by myself. This year she happen to sit on a Cam- Am Ryker at the dealership when I was picking up my Speedmaster from service. She decided to test ride it and fell in love with it. We ended up buying it for her. She now wants to ride as much as me and is always planning our next ride. What are your feelings about the Cam-AM and are they as popular in Europe as they are becoming here in the US. Do you consider them a motorcycle? Thanks for your input. Robyn

[@peteduch2151]

My phone has a cable in it most of the time despite its big battery

[@volvogt21]

Nice bmw hp2 on that auction site

[@debbieclegg2485]

Needs a mobile charger boost pack !

[@mcgoo721]

I feel like Harley is the best theyve ever been. I was never interested in them and now a couple of their touring bikes are near the top of my list

[@antonoat]

I completely agree, an electric bike for adventure is as much use as a chocolate spoon and the price is ridiculous!

[@MarkG-su4wd]

Harley needs to release a 650 heritage model. Something affordable and classic

[@neildutton8077]

HD have abandoned the grass roots with the axing of the sportster. Should have kept making them in Thailand..Royal Enfield proves air cooled has a future.

[@chrisharrison3649]

Half the reason I ride a motorcycle is the feeling of the motor under me and the sound, so until they produce an admissions free combustion engine I won’t be changing.

[@Paulfarmer-en4vh]

Ride a energica Eva ribelle it's fast and has a big range 5:10

[@stephenmundane]

For £20K plus I'd hope so...

[@kevinwestwood6668]

Fort nine recently reviewed those new Canams, he wasn't very impressed, Nick Sanders rode around the world,on one of those xt Yamahas.

[@garyhull5617]

Harley Davidson has apparently stockpiled thousands of rounds of ammunition so they can continue to shoot themselves in the feet/foot. Any estimates on how many more shots it will take?

[@luddite6239]

Have a look at Fortnine's latest video for an excellent in depth analysis of the new Can Am models.

[@dannyhampshire2825]

Sorry about my car alarm but someone keeps trying to steal it 3 times a day🤷‍♂️

[@Snoozzzzzze]

Freddie hopes that they succeed soon.

[@dannyhampshire2825]

@@Snoozzzzzze 😉

[@Snoozzzzzze]

@@dannyhampshire2825😀

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

😆

[@G3A3]

alarmageddon🤣

[@andrewiansummers]

Can't believe I'm the first one here! Thanks Freddie for all the videos 👍

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

Hello Andrew👋 Thank you, it is my pleasure!

[@laius6047]

115km if: No lights Not charging your phone Not using turn signals Only driving at the speed of 75-90km/h No wind Flat surface

[@stephenmundane]

Probably stating the obvious but poor old Forza Paul might want to start scouring the breakers for used parts if he hasn't already. I wouldn't just sit there and let the dealer take care of it -- they've got you over a barrel..

[@ashleyritchie4948]

All bike sales are in decline, and who these days wants to pay £20k + for a HD then extorionate service and parts costs, and many known faults !! I have a 2004 883, fantastic, basic, easy to service and get parts for and cheap as chips to buy !

[@biker_dale]

I don't see the point of electric bikes, not even for cities, you can get a decent small cc real bike for a fraction of the cost with ten as much soul. Dorothy's Speed Shop is great, i'm off down to Nathan in a couple of weeks to try out the CFMoto 450MT and another small cc'd trail bike, riding round North Devon for the day. Can't wait...

[@andrewpaton8819]

Totally agree the Can am won’t succeed, and neither will Harley Davidson if they only aim at premium pension affordable bikes. Where is the thinking at HD headquarters. Can’t they see the market is changing for more small capacity light weight motorcycles. Just look where the top sellers are coming from low cost Triumph 400s, CF Moto 450mt, Royal Enfield 350 & 450s. If they don’t change with the times I can see them along with some of the Japanese manufacturers struggling for sales.

[@thisisabsolutelystup]

Affordable motorcycles, not necessary small capacity. Speed 400 and RE wouldn't sell a 100 units at £7k+

[@Irishrover1]

Very dismissive of electric motorcycles, try following Marc Travels. So far Germany to Nepal on an electric motorcycle! Worth a watch.

[@ChadWinters]

Harley needs to sell a 900cc, 400 to 500lb roadster at 12K. They just have nothing in this category.

[@neildutton8077]

71 miles of range, is probably under ideal circumstances. More like 60 miles in reality. So 40 miles before the sphincter tightens...😁

[@slakk5093]

Where I live there isn’t any off-road within 40 miles

[@neildutton8077]

@@slakk5093 So you need a pickup or a trailer....LOL

[@Cookie-yl8uq]

I have an electric supermoto, and while it has incredible power/weight ratio and always instant acceleration, the range is half what was advertised -an electric adv bike is a joke. Thankfully, its not my only bike, I am fortunate to enjoy both worlds.

[@Patshes]

The Can Am bikes would never make it in South Africa. The max distance would barely get you to an off-road destination of witch there are plenty and some beautiful places to explore. Your friends would have to cart a generator along! 🆒😎🤘

[@planefrog]

70 mile range for £15000. You have to wonder at the sanity of the guys who think this idea will actually fly.

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

The local Harley-Davidson dealer try to have a live wire ride from one dealership to another dealership and the bike died out at 72 miles. It did not make it from the one dealership to the other. 30,000 motorcycle that can be beaten by a moped scooter. A new battery for a live wire is $7,000 it takes $8,000 worth of mechanical work to install and they could not tell me the disposal fee because they did not know what it was. An electric motorcycle is a boondoggle like a flying car. Figments of the imagination it takes 8 hours of shop time to replace a battery not $8,000 of course if you add the cost of the battery and the labor to install it on the disposal fee that's probably about right

[@thisisabsolutelystup]

Electric motorcycles are fundamentally more challenging than cars. You can't pile batteries in under the floor, because youre space and mass limited, and you can't do much about the aerodynamics because its got a person sat on it. Until we see a breakthrough in batteries in either capacity or affordability, they're a dead end. If batteries were cheap, with the simplicity of an electric drive train imagine being able to sell mass produced units at say the £5000 mark. Suddenly 80 miles range doesn't seem so bad for a commuter option.

[@AlexOnABoat]

What you're describing is already available and for less than your £5000 price point, from the likes of Niu and SuperSoco, not to mention hundreds of other brands in their native China. Cheap, easy to ride, easy to charge with removable batteries, and enough performance for commuting into or round town. But, in the UK, with its over complex licencing system, terrible urban congestion and high risk of theft if you want to commute on two wheels you're probably better off spending £1500-2000 on a decent e-bike, which doesn't need insurance, licencing, and all the bike gear, can use any available cycling infrastructure and can be stored in your home. As an example looking at cross-town journey times in London, a bicycle (not even an ebike) will get you most places quicker than a motorcycle. And you'll feel far less guilty leaving it behind when you hop on public transport or take the car because it's raining.

[@pete36524]

Right now I can’t see the argument for electric bikes. As you say Freddie poor range, add no fast charging and premium price so the value proposition isn’t there for me. I rode a Suzuki GSX1000GX the other day, amazing and under 14k. Bargain!

[@landzw]

An electric bike is only good for commuting due to mileage, so it would need a price tag to suit under 7k

[@timgarnett7636]

Motorbiking, whether for fun or essential transport needs to be cheap. With cost of living it has to make sense. Harley Davidsons can only be for the wealthy, most of which prefer to be in a car. They are not a sensible choice of transport. HD really are in trouble in the uk. There is now not a single dealership in the north, all have closed in the last year. There is nowhere to get a service and owners are being forced to go to independents. Chinese and indian bikes are taking over. The quality of the bikes are now on par or better and one third the price.

[@timgarnett7636]

Correction manchester harley dealership has reopened! Still lost quite a few though!

[@kokilimonke]

I completely agree with you. Electric motorcycles is only usable for shitty rides.

[@ryanxvx]

I heard that too. 😂

[@loddude5706]

Yep, 'wilderness' bikes need to be hybrids, a small capacity i/c generator running the electric drive through a 'safety' bank of low weight pixie loving capacitors! : )

[@nicktdm5703]

Marc travels (YT)...would love to join him on his "shitty ride"😂...rtw on a 2017 zero road bike. Problem is the manufacturing...too greedy to give us what we want.

[@antonoat]

Totally agree, an electric motorbike for adventure is as much use as a chocolate spoon! 😂🤣😂 ps the price is totally ridiculous.

[@andrewdyson4255]

Electric bikes will not catch on until they improve the range. The range will not increase without making the bike bigger and heavier, they just don’t make sense. I think both Harley Davidson and KTM are in for a rough ride and I can see them going to the wall, especially KTM with the poor customer service.

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

Unfortunately I agree on all points

[@Victor-vf1fi]

You can't have poor customer service if it doesn't exist.

[@ianhalliwell8604]

With a range of 70 miles in reality that means after you've travelled just 35 miles you will have to turn round and head home, that's beyond useless

[@scobeno1911]

Harley Davidson are not selling because all the old people that buy them and can afford them are ,I’m sad to say, dying off. Same going on in America I read..

[@willernst2721]

The problem with Harley is the U.S. is the company, (so the board of directors, not the workers), started to cater to only folks with more money then average. Not just by making expensive bikes but by turning their less expensive bikes into ones that are marketed to those people as well. I know they make good bikes but good and desirable are not the same thing. I think most of the bikes they make now look like something from an early 2000s children's cartoon, (which is the nostalgia they are looking to capture instead of the nostalgia of their actual past, selling bikes to people that were never actually around one when they were younger and only feel nostalgic about them thinking about those cartoons). Maybe that is just an American problem since most people here were raised by the television for a couple of generations, but Harley seems to not be selling elsewhere so their design choices definitely aren't hitting the right marks. I'm thinking about getting a cruiser type bike as my interceptor isn't that practical, although completely capable, for long trip vacation touring, (it's a luggage issue and the type of seat, a saddle type is definitely more comfortable for riding hundreds of miles in a day). So I'm weighing my options and really looking at getting a shotgun 650 and boring it to 865 while lowering the final gearing to get it to run 80mph at 3500 to 4100rpms and still pull. Not sure if I can get those mph at those rpms but it can't hurt to try. Anyway, my point is that the shotgun looks like a bike, an actual motorcycle. It of course doesn't look like a Harley, (it actually reminds me of the older Honda rebels), but it looks like a bike. There is also the absence of all the driving aids that I want nothing to do with.

[@scobeno1911]

@@willernst2721 had a seat on the Rebel 1100, the cruiser one with the big fairing at the front and the panniers already fitted. Cracking looking thing,and not overly expensive.

[@willernst2721]

@@scobeno1911 if you mean the new ones those 1100 sound nice, I live a few miles down a dirt road though and they sit a bit low for all of that. I was looking at buying one before I got my interceptor though.Nice bikes and fast.

[@longjonwhite]

@willernst. Instead of undertaking all those mods on a RE 650,,, why not just buy a Triumph 900 or 1200?

[@willernst2721]

@@longjonwhite older ones haves carbs that I don't want to spend the time maintaining and newer ones have electronics that I can't maintain. From what I know the newer triumphs aren't as customizable either, but I might be wrong about that. It comes down to do I want to spend more money for a bike that has some better build bits just to take some of those bits off in exchange for others anyway, or pay less money for a bike with some slightly less well made bits that I am going to take off and exchange for better build bits anyway. Other tings like do the triumphs have better paint, yeah slightly, but although I'm probably not going to repaint my interceptor mk2, (when I bought it I was going to strip the red stripe and do a British racing green instead with 24K gold leaf strips and add polished stainless fenders and paint them the same but the red kinda grew on me), if I get a shotgun I am definitely gonna custom paint it, so why pay more for a bike I am gonna paint anyway. Really the engine quality is the only reason I would choose a triumph over the Enfield and I'm not completely sure there is much of a difference if any. The way they come from the factory I will not be surprised at all if the re650 would outlast any newer triumph because of how underbuilt they are, (those engines are meant to be 865cc but were built 650 for both emissions laws and to purposely keep HP under 47 for the license laws in Europe), which means they stay cooler and should wear less, (of course time will tell). The question with the engines really comes down to how long the Enfield engine will last at 865cc and that is a very good question that I don't have an answer for. Considering the engine was designed to be that bore in the first place though it should last as long as anything else, of course should and will are two different things. Oh, last thing, the gearing on the Enfield 650s is crazy because they are so underpowered. They are basically geared like a 400cc sport bike with a top speed of 100mph. Bore the engine out to 865cc and you gain almost 20hp but you pretty much double the torque. So you go from something around just over 30 foot pounds to 60 foot pounds while still being geared for no more then 100mph. That makes for a lot of pull on a very tight gearbox which would make for some real fun riding at the cost of how relaxed the bikes are stock. That is why I am not sure if I want to do that. If I buy a second 650 though then why wouldn't I try it with one of the bikes.

[@mauriziotaddei7410]

Hi Freddie, personally I would not travel/tour on an electric motorbike, but this man proves it can be done: youtube.com/@marctravels?si=hepqUiwiBG3oTeF6 Over a year and half and approx 50k km and several countries like Iran, Pakistan, India and Nepal to name a few. I believe his target is New Zealand.

[@timparkhouse9925]

Freddie, Freddie, Freddie! The ‘adventure’ Can Am is NOT for adventuring like you do so brilliantly. The ‘adventure’ label denotes a styling exercise and will be used as a stylish, clean and convenient ride in and out and around your local city. Comfortable, sexy, cool and even (a bit) ‘green’. I’m a 55 year old R9T rider and can’t imagine easily being tempted away from internal combustion but look at the biker demographic in UK compared to most of the rest of the world - we’re getting old and need youngers jumping on to 2 wheels or it’s game over. Will electric bikes interest risk-averse Millenials? Cost of ownership is probably a bigger barrier than range but I think you’ve missed the point and therefore the appeal of this CanAm bike.

[@instant8195]

Harley Davidson will go down because of Boomers in Management and Marketing who dont understand that the newer generation of riders will not spend 20.000 - 30000 USD for a stupid bike.

[@davidreed6817]

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[@davidreed6817]

Can Am, is it not Canadian American? Electric bikes will never catch on

[@chrishart8548]

If you do take inflation into account everything has lost value

[@richardyardley5127]

I am delighted that E motorcycles aren't viable. Simply because they will be silent suicide machines and silent killers. They also have about as much sense of character and charm as a synthetic carbohydrate factory. Just my view.

[@VincentSmith-i7o]

Electric bike, 70 miles, I don't think so. I have an electric pedal bike for local trips to the shops. Its advertised as 30 mile rangè, I would not trust it over 15 miles as I live in hilly Wales

[@jezza117]

15K for a ADV bike with a 70 mile range??..is this a wind up?. Can-am should stick with the trikes, make way more sense to electric one of them but again, range?? and the usual charging issues

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

I agree- it just doesn’t make any sense with a 79 mile range and a 60% charge takes 50 minutes

[@bf6686]

Nobody Wants Electric motorcycles

[@critterIMHO]

Electric vehicles aren’t going to be feasible until the power is produced on board with something like a hydrogen fuel cell. NASA has been using this technology for the last 70 years.

[@garypritchard-q5b]

You talk about elec bikes try and watch German born [Marc travels] going around the world?

[@kevindarkstar]

1:45 if they claim 70 odd miles it will be more likely to be around 50-55 miles..... Pointless and expensive

[@johnsmuth5062]

Wrong....explain Marc Travels to me then

[@richardbartlett6932]

Harley Davidson ; Go woke, go broke.

[@ricatiman]

Electric will not work in my lifetime, or likely in yours too, Freddie. Anyone who buys into them is throwing good money after bad...

[@suscom99]

Can Am have lost the plot. The new designs are unappealing design and looks wise. The Can Am Canyon is an adventure trike for America not the UK and retails for over £35K for the top model. They don't sell and px prices are poor.

[@granty1150gs]

Harley are being canceled in the US because they went woke with DEI, they said they had dropped in but they haven't and customers are not happy. some riders have even set there bikes on fire. They are in free fall.

[@thisisabsolutelystup]

Imagine setting your own paid for motorcycle on fire because of a diversity policy at the company Absolutely insane

[@aromaticsnail]

@@thisisabsolutelystup Except it's false. That nonsense about Harley and DEI was debunked by Snopes on their article titled "Harley-Davidson Sales Dropped 40% After Motorcycle Maker Announced DEI Initiatives?" @ranty1150gs forgot to take his meds and it's past his bedtime, that's why he's writing nonsense dug from facebook troll farms that ate The Onion.

[@tbillington]

​@@thisisabsolutelystupthe same people who donate money to a "billionaire"

[@pggp273]

Go Woke Go Broke !

[@pggp273]

​@@thisisabsolutelystupI am all for a boycott on buying new bikes but setting light to something that the company has already been paid for probably isn't the widest of decisions

[@roadstrom]

Electric bikes = 💩

[@elekkr]

Yes they "can work in a real world" except that must be in some other universe 😮😢😅😊