The New Concave/Shape I Helped Design (8.25 Easy Rider)

[@kierandyer-LeavingAtDawn]

I’m really appreciating these videos since you posted the “I’m done” video. They feel much more natural and less forced and you look like you’re having fun and doing content because you want to. Also nice to know these videos are being done because you want to do them. I look forward to more videos whether or not we have to wait a long time for them. Keep doing what’s comfortable and fun for you :)

[@stonerollinbby]

Glad you’re still around. KZbin sucks without you

[@TheKb813]

This man is hands down my favorite person to watch skate. I got back into skating in 2020 and binged watched all your videos. Thank you for the all madness, and thank you for all you have done for skaters, and skateboaring.

[@bendegros]

Thank you!!!

[@galvanizedgnome]

Check out this skater named Brandon Turner

[@kastelvetro1491]

@@bendegros you do the same tricks a inch of the ground for twenty years, cant you just get over it buddy and adjust your body for your slappy. if you where actually creative and did new shit id listen

[@kevinv.4391]

​@@kastelvetro1491 And the best you can do is hate on him

[@frvn4ever]

This is so relatable because I’ve developed truck madness due to the vast knowledge Ben has 😂💯

[@PressureFlipperZ]

I just love when Ben Degros posts a video after a long day of work this guy is just so wholesome & uplifting

[@8bitsamurai6]

Agree dudes solid and good at building shit too. Def top class and solid skater.

[@Unlockingparadoxes]

I always appreciate your speaking, articulation and the way you break up stuff as you explain things. It's definitely never too much talking. You're a really inspiring person and skater

[@chrisschlegel1521]

It’s midnight where I am, and I need to go to bed. I will be watching this in the morning. Thanks for all these great videos you’ve been making recently.

[@FrontSaladBackSaladFrontBlunt]

You've helped demystify drywall... and now your helping me demystify board shapes. You sir, are a treasure. Thanks for your wisdom.

[@AuthenticProd]

Been watching you for years even before I ever picked up a board, love this channel

[@sterlingcampbell2116]

I very much appreciate the technical talk where you discuss the physics and implications of different design choices

[@grimcity]

Man, I'm a big time fan of the R1, and I've tested previous mellow presses like the Reazy-C and Low Pros, and while they were perfectly fine, this really looks a lot more functional (at least to my own tastes). Great work. Been hyped on what you do for a number of years, and I've been friends with Jim for several years (and a fan of his since the Sick Boys) so seeing the two of you collaborate just makes complete sense in my head. I mean, of course you two would eventually work together in skateboarding! Haha... for real, love to see it. Looking forward to stepping on it! All the best, Ben!

[@bendegros]

Thank you!

[@SenpaiSwft]

I could watch your videos all day. Newer skater and you’ve helped me learn so much and helped me fall in love with skating.

[@JonnyDIY]

Ben you rascal! 😆 lol love how you convinced them basically to make your pro model! 💕👏👍 PS- great session you were landing evvvvverything!

[@Sk8nCreate]

The direct contact thing makes total sense, it’s like kickfliping inside a limeted path vs free access to the nose!

[@joshmandracken7623]

I just bought the anti hero 8.38 of this. Tactics says it’s a 14.5 wheelbase and another review of these said the real version had steeper kicks. If that’s the case, I think I may have found my “Goldilocks” board. Super hyped and love the content. That’s for coming back!

[@JadedGenXer]

Its finally out. Congratulations. And you can tell your having more fun making content only when you have something you really want to say. You can talk tech to me all day but the likly hood of me getting my hands on one is like 0 with my local skate shop. Im in rural Victoria Australia and they are hardly open these days. Its hard to support your local skate shop when they keep the wiredist hrs as it too me 3 weeks of just showing up in operating hrs to find them open last time i had to pick up stuff. Authentic, chill, happy, having fun. Good to see.

[@DMoney505]

Full SE is by far my favorite deck shape and dimensions, So I’m definitely gonna try this!

[@technolange651]

Same. The 8.25 Full SE is my absolute favourite shape. Skated a lot of those decks.

[@andrewryan920]

I can’t wait to try this board. I have been really liking a shape that workshop/habitat makes called the agile 8. I consider it to have a steeper kick and would like to ride a board that Ben has broken down with such depth and detail to compare. Great job. Love your videos. Thank you Ben:)

[@jeffli480]

I’ve always wondered why the nose was steeper than the tail in a lot of boards, this makes so much sense!

[@EdgarGarcia-wn5bw]

Hey Ben, just wanted to share how much I love the Easy Rider anti-hero board shape, especially as a 41-year-old. It makes riding a skateboard so much better. Love that pop and quick board response are game-changers, especially for us older skaters.

[@grampsskateboarding4814]

Love it how you literally got thiebaud to make you a board based specifically to match your latest truck madness. Salute 🫡

[@psych0billy6]

I love the in depth explanation of the board. The board flips way faster compared to some of your older videos. To me this board would feel like a broken in one but new pop feel. I can't wait to try the 8.5".

[@remcovanbuuren5383]

I hope the make also a twintail in this concave. Prefer flatter boards, just feels more natural and longer tails also as i like standard thunder&ventures for their feel probably because i am taller but don't like wide boards. Great to see these board being produced ! Thanks Ben you are doing great.

[@i_have_a_coat]

this is why ive always leaned towards toy machine decks, really love their mellow concave.

[@DarkoNomad]

I like the board, especially the fingers of flat and the fact that you can make it symetrical just by sanding it's nose a little bit. It's also quite opposite from what I usually ride (Santa Cruz On Venture v-hollow lows) and I'm about 6.1 foot tall. I'll get that Anti-hero 14.5 and sand down the nose to turn it into twin tail board. I noticed that many pros who ride Thunders or Ventures (Shane, P Rod, Yuto,...) like 14 inch wheelbase but such short wheelbase just makes wheelbase on other trucks much shorter. Primitive, Girl and April boards are mostly coming with 14 inch wheelbase at 8.25. Btw looking forward to his review of Andy Anderson's latest symmetrical board 😂

[@rmhfpv9225]

it's comforting that you're making vids.

[@ProjectPizzatt]

I’m 6”4 but I deff will be trying this out! Usually ride only dlx 8.5-8.75 14.38-14.62 WB and I’ve been wanting to step down, I’m getting too old and too many injuries to have the will power to get those things off the ground every trick, every session. Skating was hard enough already for 20 years! Excited to grab one of these. Thank you Ben

[@pierreandreassen287]

Need to try the 8.5 one. I do love the 8.5 true fit mold decks with the 13.75 wb, so going back on 14.25 will probobly feel a bit heavy in the beginning! I always feelt the concaves can be a bit "sharp" on DLX decks so I always look for the mellower boards. This looks great! Also, that bs 360 on the hip was really nice!!

[@jeanmichtosh]

Always great content and skating. Would love to try the shape in 8.38 if this comes out. Thank you Ben!

[@nathanvaltierra8707]

This would be my perfect setup if I could get my hands on it all the time. What truck's would you put on it? I would go with thunder 148 or 149 standard

[@jeanmichtosh]

@@nathanvaltierra8707 yeah thunder 148 or ace 44 would make it perfect for me!

[@ShawnxEdge]

The Canadian really comes out when talking to a fellow Canadian. The accent just flows right out 😂

[@VonHeisenbergOG]

I'm riding the Bobhy Worrest (Ishod) 8.3 Slick Twin Tail right now and love it. Got it right before I knew your board came out. I've always loved the feel of Anti Hero also, and if you're saying it's the same template as the Ishod, that might just be my next ride 🙌

[@DarmokAtTanagra]

Congrats Ben I love all the thought that went into every aspect of the shape. I ride an FA which I like a lot but the nose is sooo much steeper than the tail and of course pops totally different as a result. Will def have a look at the Easy Rider shape next go around

[@Leeham___]

This makes so much sense I can’t wait to try these !

[@taneltolsting2900]

You know it already, adding couple of washers to each wheel will make trucks that tiny bit wider, as you’d prefer it with your 8.125 setup.

[@Unlockingparadoxes]

I hope that everyone has an amazing 2024 and safe travels and skateboarding throughout the years. 🍀♾️❤️‍🔥

[@aqueeda8763]

I wish BBS made more 8.38’s with a 14.25 wheelbase. Their normal 14.5 feels way too clunky especially with ventures.

[@averageskater900]

Try the jacuzzi 3.38 shape. 14.24 wheelbase and has a similar concave to this board Ben is skating

[@Exfildeeznutz]

those are my perfect dimensions too, i find baker has them with mellow shapes sometimes

[@normanl.6891]

You can buy their 8.38 blanks with 14.375 wheelbase from skatesamples

[@zevan9592]

Hey Ben! Railside is just nearby where I live. It was awesome to see you there on KZbin. You should come back out now that its all smooth. Its really fast now. New additions on here as well.

[@AgusGonzalez1998]

Great vid! Super happy to see you posting!

[@spencernuzzi]

Just got one and can’t wait to try it out!

[@sonicnotails3265]

I just seen this board at my local skateshop and almost bought it cuz i went back down to 8.25 from 8.38. If its there next month ill try it. Awesome that you helped mold it!!

[@pabloheredia5513]

Nice to see you on board!!

[@samuelpreciado]

You gotta try the new spitfire wheels at that park, a video would be awesome , with the new deck shape you’re working on. And Venture low. I wanna have the same setup you ride

[@408lurks]

Park looks incredible. The design. The vibes

[@zonen1]

Hey bud, just bought the deck as it's available in Europe now :D Got a nice looking purple top ply. Immediately felt comfortable - reminded me of a late 90's deck, without the gnarly Popwar type kicks. Super comfortable. Looking forward to riding it at the park and trying slides on it - the finish seems textured. might help it not stick. Thanks for giving so much of yourself to the skate community - both in time, ideas and everything else.

[@DTC1138]

Congrats on the pro board Ben! :) Do a twin tip shape next. I love the Ishod's but Real needs a different option for a twin shape.

[@taneltolsting2900]

All the specs talk make sense. That spoon thing I believe is what was labelled as 'Full concave' when I was riding the Cliche Europe deck (dwindle). It made nose and tail slides much more promising in length. I've been using 14''wb8.25'' Skatemental with 8.5inch regular Thunders and I like it a lot. So that's what's where I'd integrate this deck into. All the stuff I know how to do - looks better on this kind of setup. Though it is a bit difficult to learn new stuff on such a steep angled deck. Like I always have something mellow and low for learning stuff and then something steep like this for making it look better.

[@BurntWifi]

you have one of the coolest jobs in the world

[@vinnyplace1269]

The new Deck sounds pretty decent. I been leaning towards mellower boards. I look forward to trying one 🤙

[@vix_in_japan]

I’m so stoked you got to work with Deluxe, so rad! I’m very unlikely to switch from my 8.125 Flip Tom Penny cheech and Chong with indie 139s and f4 52mm classics, I prefer to stick to one thing and enjoy it, but maybe one day I can try this shape.

[@DirtySk8RatStaney]

Ben doing more for skateboarding than any other non sponsored skater…..💪🏻

[@zachhillison]

Ben you’re the coolest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Need to try that out!

[@mikehemens9359]

Thank you Ben for mellowing concaves. I'd love to see an 18 or 17 degree tail kick.

[@castblanka8216]

i feel like you came to this conclusion of a flatter board from skating so many Controled wood decks. iykyk. I always wished they made that shape on better wood. Thx Ben (=

[@driftlessskater5475]

I can’t wait to try it. My last couple boards have been Chocolate 8.25” Shape G052 and I’ve been loving them. Had a very similar Metal Fred Gall before that. It will be nice to try these out when they drop. Couldn’t find them on Tactics or Skate Warehouse yet.

[@DeeDen8511]

Ditto on theG052 shape.those are niceee

[@bendegros]

Soon.

[@brad1424]

ur skating is looking strong neighbor. very impressive.

[@GarbageDayProductions]

for sure going to try this out, mellow decks are my preference and is my only real complaint when trying deluxe molds

[@Morbidia]

13:59 15:12 16:32 16:50 That's all Ben's got to say about that deck. Wooooooo get some.

[@Jacobunny]

Nice vid Ben, with some fun skating at the end. Well done getting that back 3 and nollie big heel(?) at the end. Also dig the board talk. Been watching Tom Asta's recent vids about changing up his board size/set-up too. I keep an 8.0 and 8.25 set-up going (with a sometimes back-up 8.38) but as a shorter old guy I prefer shorter deck length and shorter wb. I have been riding a few Snata Cruz Fabi Delfino shapes (8.25 x 31.6 x14wb) and quite digging those. Also had a Primitive 8.25 x 31.9 x 14wb which went really well too until it got a big soggy after a few months and rainy sessions. Def find longer decks and wb a weird challenge (though also my skating is super ave/low level so there's that too 😂) Anyway, keep up the fun vids and skate equipment breakdowns

[@sk8forlife-01]

Can’t wait to try the new concaves. Wouldn’t mind that 8.25 with a 14.25 wb, but I think the 14 will be great. For me, a Manderson shape with the mellow concave would be heaven!!!

[@davidlizom7556]

that park looks beast

[@_Maxten]

lately ive been redrilling the truck holes on the tail of my 8.25s to make it a 13.75 wb and then i skate the board backwards. (So the og nose is now my tail) idk, i just like more blunt tails for pop & longevity but tapered pointy, flatter noses for kickflips and nose stall stuff. & shorter WBs r preferred on anything above an 8. Also i’ll only do this with logo decks so the board doesnt look upsidedown. Ive been rockin this combo with thunders with riser pads. Yes im aware this is some mad scientist nerdery stuff lol

[@pauliewalnuts5241]

Have you tried out the Creature Stump decks?

[@_Maxten]

@@pauliewalnuts5241not at all. I am unaware

[@funkydankspliff]

You’ve gone too far on the deep end brother, just get used to the 14 inch wb

[@_Maxten]

@@funkydankspliff 14 inch wb 8.25s are hard to find in person. Im redrilling ur standard 14.25. The amount of work is easier than installing rails imo.

[@RikRiorik]

A lot of it sounds pretty good to me. I like the fuller shapes, the mellower concave and the symmetrically angled nose and tail as well as the longish tail. The width and wheel base are on the smaller size for me. I’ve been riding a pretty mellow 8.5/14.5 Toy Machine lately on V-Hollows and that has felt very nice and dare I say sounds not too unlike this in terms mellowness, fuller shape and a longer tail.

[@Bubbytoed]

B16 best shape

[@taylorlawler3525]

I would like to see a board series that standardizes the measurements for wheelbase; i.e. you select Indy, Thunder, Venture, Ace and you get the mold that makes your wheelbase 14.25 using those trucks. Otherwise, everything else is the same. From a production standpoint, it’s probably more costly, but I think it would allow for more minor tweaks with the setup (height, concave preference).

[@insanogeddon]

Perfect place to test wheels on now you have a board/truck set up on lock. With the controlled area and less ideal surfaces would be valuable content for the community to try all the Filmer and now park/street mixed use wheels flooding the market. Find the ideal wheel for that set up

[@Chocalateshake]

As someone that loves to ride flatter old school boards this is a board i definitely need to pick up

[@wavyvibesradio]

Just picked this board up 8.5 , going to pair it with the new thunder boxed hollow lights 149 .

[@TRAVIESO_NA]

I like a long tail, when I'm skating wheels 54mm and up. I ride ''WKND'' decks a lot, because of the mellow concave/ and dimensions. PS STIX mostly makes those WKND decks, They have short tails, I can only skate them with 52mm wheels and Indy mids. Any other way i set them up I cant skate those decks. So I started looking for longer tails. I'm riding some Venture 6.1s with a Welcome Nora deck 8.7 shaped with a square tail, BBS wood. with some 54mm Bones STF 99a wheels, and those rations are helping for this set up of mine. the wheelbase is 14.5 and I thought the Ventures would make the wheelbase to wide for me, but It feels so nice compared to when I tried to set the same deck up with some Indy 159s. Has to be the Wheelbase being extended compared to when I had the Indy's in making the wheelbase go in.

[@DannyBoatright]

Dude that is exactly how I feel about concave! Flatter is better. I hope I get a chance to pick one up

[@juliom6260]

Great job Ben

[@Seaneskatejitsu]

I’ll have to try a deck, I’ve been only skating twin boards as of recent but I’ll give it a try. I’m loving the 8.5 Foy deathwish twin rn

[@coreyr7701]

Love when you upload

[@littlepeoplemusic]

Looking to get hold of an easy rider board… I was thinking of pairing this with some Thunder hi lights (or hi hollow lights) 148 - would the extra height potentially address the issue you were getting with Thunders (ghost pop, trouble getting into halfcab crooks)? And would you err towards a lighter or heavier truck for this board? Thanks for all the nerdiness your bring to skateboarding set ups. It’s appreciated.

[@kimron7208]

That 8,25 deck would be nice in 8,125 width. Primitive and Chocolate have similiar shapes in 8,25 width but i dont think anyone makes short wb deck with long nose and tail in 8,125.

[@jDDignity]

Exactly what SantaCruz is doing with TomAsta at the moment. Shrinking twin tips in 8,25 and 8,50 to 14" wheelbase I always said that the sweetspot is a medium concave on an 8.125-8.25" width with 14" wheelbase 31.45 long

[@swr410]

Excited to try this one!

[@swr410]

(Hoping they release it with the Degros X Martha Stewart pro Unicorn graphic)

[@Esmith5488]

Excited to try the 8.5 when it hits shops

[@KevinNiceTry]

Sounds perfect. I'm definitely going to have to try one.

[@fermented_funk]

Looking forward to picking one up this weekend, currently skating a Jacuzzi Unlimited with super steep concave and kicks and turns out I hate that lol, I'm excited to try something new. How would you compare the concave to Bakers "OG Mellow Concave" they market?

[@8bitsamurai6]

I prefer twin tail with mellow or not super steep nose and tail. That looks like an ideal shape. Atm ace and thunder are my prefered. Idys do seem not as polished as ace and super squeeky. But need to give venture a true try. Tried for a a small sess and reminded me of thunders.

[@franciscoramirez9867]

As a 5'3" dude that just skated my first 13" wheelbase board after 7 years of 14's and 14.25's_I don't ever wanna skate anything else!!!!!

[@jcondition]

Good stuff! I'm 5'7", short legs, and have been on standard Venture lows. Very curious to try out the 8.25.

[@maartenderyck1]

can't wait to find one of these

[@ishwav]

When I get this board, I'm going to throw it on some forged Indy 144s I think. This might be the setup I finally get switch tre on. Fingers crossed!

[@MikeRawbertson]

What do you think about skating switch off the tail and skating fakie off the nose? I think this makes more sense... the nose is designed to hit the floor later when you take off for nollie so why wouldnt the same apply to fakie? I understand people like to keep their turning the same, and I have heard some people say they like the tail hitting sooner on switch. Seems like it goes against why the board was designed that way to me though. I have done this my last few setups and I feel like my wheels and trucks wear more evenly as well, but you have to skate a lot of switch.

[@bendegros]

Only one way to find out what works best for you. I personally don't like popping off the other kick because it changes the feel/timing. I'm fine with only skating it one way.

[@motoXcross.]

easy rider eh u sold me with that title

[@majkel012]

As always cool to watch

[@runbymmkk]

For a shorter person at 5'7, I wish the shape was on 8.125 with a 31.7 length. The concave feels like a good change too.

[@Marty_Wojahn]

How are they planning on resurfacing that park? Is it smooth concrete? Are they planning on putting another coat of concrete sealant on it? Our park is smooth concrete but after 15 years the seal is worn off from weather and I wonder how we could fix it before it gets too rough

[@antonmyhrvold]

killing it 🔥❤

[@rubberfooty]

Imo , 14 WB with indy mids feels very good 🙏

[@bendegros]

I bet this deck would actually be great on indy mids.

[@jouhajohnny]

Would love an 8.125 shape of that concave but with 7” nose and 6.6” tail 😋😋

[@didcay2344]

about to go to bed and I see a new upload why do you do this to me love the content ben

[@goldleader6169]

stoked to try one of these

[@normanl.6891]

Hopefully the Deluxe shop website will start carrying these decks too.

[@vinceamir7236]

Fun to hear that the anti-hero 8.38 have that shape too, i will go for the 8.25 i think beacause of hips ache and i just cut venture 8.5 to 8.25. I will probably try the Anti-Hero too because i like a 14.5 on indy and even on Venture high cast 5.8. When the kick have nice feel the 360 flip are not that hard on long wheelbase.

[@Marty_Wojahn]

Can’t wait to try an easy rider;)

[@lockedinlachlan]

Ben have you tried the Silver M Class trucks? those are what I ride after switching from Ventures. They have great stability with the super wide truss, large wings, while having an indy wb. I feel like my board is more reactive and responsive with a shorter wb but isnt squirly. they maintain stability. They are basically mids so they're a good deal shorter than Indys. They have big hangers like indys that make them grind better than Ventures and thunders. They're $50 on Syndrome Distrubution, get then from there that way you get their latest mold. I love em.

[@PlywoodFiend]

🔥This is what we play for!🧟‍♂️

[@UweWong]

in terms of how easy a board pops, when you say a shorter wheelbase makes the easier to pop, should i assume the length of the board stays the same? Cause if thats the case, the tail is obviously now longer. Before watching your videos, all I consider is the length of the tail/nose (ok the steepness/shape as well of course), the wheelbase for me is basically for turning. a 14.25WB with 6.5 Tail is way hard to pop compared with also a 14.25WB with 7.0 Tail. cause in the end, not considering quality of wood and all those other variables, the pop angle is basically everything right? cause all I do is measure distance from ground to front wheels or nose (again i am only talking about pop here, weight and everything stays the same or not regarded).

[@diplenski]

I like the feeling underfoot and manageability of flatter boards, but I like the stiffness/rigidity of steeper kicks/concave. I have too many boards.

[@diplenski]

The deluxe boards I have are IIIs and IVs

[@mateusds909]

​@@diplenskiim starting to learn the difference. Just set up a flatter/mellower deck as a cruiser.

[@bendegros]

I ride a 4 in this. The kicks are not what I would call mellow.