The New ELECTRIC Vauxhall Astra Has An Amazing Party Trick...

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@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Жыл бұрын
Stellantis cannot be serious at this price point. MG4 at what...£28K? with more interior space, just as much range on a bespoke EV platform. For the same price you can get a Kia Niro EV with more space and more range...and for a few thousand more you are into a Tesla M3. C'mon Jack, your enthusiasm for all EVs is commendable but lets see a bit more serious criticism of the one big thing holding back EV adoption...price.
@egold33311
@egold33311 Жыл бұрын
Yes they certainly aren't getting a good small EV at a reasonable price here
@emil10139
@emil10139 Жыл бұрын
In Spain you can get Tesla M3 LR RWD with 45000 euros (620 km WLTP) and Tesla M3 standard range with 39990 euros, and they are selling this Astra with 42000 euros. No sh*t!
@ftb2772
@ftb2772 Жыл бұрын
250miles from 51kwh 🪫… calling BS 💩 on this.
@starvictory7079
@starvictory7079 Жыл бұрын
MG is owned by the Chinese state. Are you happy paying straight into a dictatorship?
@Its-Just-Gizmo
@Its-Just-Gizmo Жыл бұрын
And yet I bet we will see more astra EVs than mg4s
@MoltenArmour
@MoltenArmour Жыл бұрын
turned off at £40k. At that price a basic model 3 is only 43k. Seems crazy to me anyone would pick an Astra over that for 3k difference.
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted Жыл бұрын
Me too. Why would anyone pay that much for an admittedly mediocre car? Vauxhall/Opel is trying to catch up in a race they've already lost. It's too late for legacy car manufacturers to offer an electric version of their old cars. They missed the boat on EVs. Now all they have to do is wait for the government bailouts when their industry tanks.
@Melbourne-s4x
@Melbourne-s4x Жыл бұрын
Model 3 build quality is trash.
@dna9838
@dna9838 Жыл бұрын
If you're living in UK or Europe, it's worth considering that we're facing a profound collapse in our manufacturing industry, including cars. It's incredibly important that we retain capability to make things, not just in case countries like china become more hostile in the future but also because that industry has huge ripple benefits on communities, countries, and regions. Looking at Google it appears the model 3s sold in Europe are made in China. This astra is made in UK. That counts for a lot.
@rogerfinch7651
@rogerfinch7651 Жыл бұрын
Same. Crazy price
@ewadge
@ewadge Жыл бұрын
@@Melbourne-s4xthat might have been true a few years ago. Those issues have been sorted out for a while now. Tesla’s Model 3 and Y sold in Europe now come either from the German Berlin factory or from the Shanghai factory in China.
@joehodgson2815
@joehodgson2815 Жыл бұрын
Forty grand for an Astra?!? ...the world has gone mad!
@GudieveNing
@GudieveNing Жыл бұрын
Mate, it was already mad.
@80y3r9
@80y3r9 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a no, Tesla is 42k so yeah that's not good enough
@moonprobe8751
@moonprobe8751 Жыл бұрын
I'd love an electric car, but our pre-registered new Qashqai only cost 17,000 Euro four years ago. I can't afford 47,000 Euro for a car...
@Nikoo033
@Nikoo033 Жыл бұрын
@@moonprobe8751 I would recommend selling your ICE car while it still has some value and use that cash as a deposit to reduce the monthly repayments of a finance towards purchasing a second hand EV. That’s what I did and because of the low running costs of an EV, my second hand EV costs me only £60-£70 more per month than my previous ICE car (finance repayment included).
@moonprobe8751
@moonprobe8751 Жыл бұрын
@@Nikoo033 thanks, worth thinking about...
@jimdunleavypiano
@jimdunleavypiano Жыл бұрын
£40k. The basic petrol Astra on sale in the UK right now is £26, 810. If they can't get somewhere near that, this model is doomed. And I'm and EV owner & enthusiast.
@hdtube7
@hdtube7 Жыл бұрын
It’s the same in nearly every category, can’t get anything like an aygo or a vw up for the price those cars actually go for
@JohnScarrott
@JohnScarrott Жыл бұрын
But as he said, there is no 'cheap' EV version, and this is the same with most EV's, they are stacked out with tech that you don't get in the base model petrol/diesel, all the EV's are high spec. Fully Charged have been pointing that out in reviews for a couple of years as a major gripe with EV manufacturers, no cheap spec available anywhere. Take that base model Astra petrol and add all the extras you get on the base EV and it'll be a lot more than £26,810, and then there is the lower cost of ownership of the EV to claw back more of the difference too.
@jimdunleavypiano
@jimdunleavypiano Жыл бұрын
@@JohnScarrott There's really no words that will convince the average car buyer to pay £40k for a medium hatchback though. I realise it's a fundamental problem with EV adoption, but explaining why won't get them to buy one.
@carloslemos6919
@carloslemos6919 Жыл бұрын
They are more or less charging the price the battery (50Kwh at £260 per kwh) on top of the petrol car. Very poor engineering sugar coated by poor journalism 🤮🤮
@anubaral
@anubaral Жыл бұрын
ye, stop putting crap that you don't really use...
@yips_way
@yips_way Жыл бұрын
How did he manage to keep a straight face when saying the price. I would have buckled onto the floor in laughter! £40k starting price - for an Astra - WHAT??? 🤣
@simonhenry7867
@simonhenry7867 Жыл бұрын
He said affordable twice before as well.
@larsvaneynde4281
@larsvaneynde4281 Жыл бұрын
Ridiculous ain't it, who in their rightful mind would spend so much money on an Astra?
@rickerbyct
@rickerbyct Жыл бұрын
Let’s face it the list price doesn’t matter a damn. It’s lease and PCP rates that matter and they will reflect the real transaction price of the car
@davidstuart4915
@davidstuart4915 Жыл бұрын
@@rickerbyct i wouldnt hold your breath.... cant see them knocking £15k off the price of a new car..
@rickerbyct
@rickerbyct Жыл бұрын
@@davidstuart4915 the difference in lease cost between a petrol and electric Corsa is around a tenner a month
@mikeymike1792
@mikeymike1792 Жыл бұрын
I'd say the C segment definitely has its current champion. It's the MG4. It's spacious, it's fun to drive, it has good range and it's extremely affordable. Yes, I have one. But I'm not biased, honest!
@brummiesalteno-81
@brummiesalteno-81 Жыл бұрын
From what I've seen nothing in this segment nothing comes close to an MG4 on price or style.
@narvuntien
@narvuntien Жыл бұрын
Soooon. I am waiting for them to arrive in dealers here for a test drive.
@MartinzW
@MartinzW Жыл бұрын
Depends on the market. MG is in fewer markets than Opel is.
@Nikoo033
@Nikoo033 Жыл бұрын
The lane assist system on MGs is apparently so off and scary that people have to deactivate it. 😅
@michaeltruscott7596
@michaeltruscott7596 Жыл бұрын
@@brummiesalteno-81 I'm not sure I agree on style...
@buxton5165
@buxton5165 Жыл бұрын
It looks lovely, but there's no way I'd pay 40k for it.
@xiaoka
@xiaoka Жыл бұрын
You can get a model 3 for that money.
@daves4026
@daves4026 Жыл бұрын
Lol spot on
@markparker5585
@markparker5585 Жыл бұрын
I thought he was going to say around 30k. 40k is ridiculous considering competition, especially with what’s available from China even now, let alone what’s arriving soon.
@philtucker1224
@philtucker1224 Жыл бұрын
If it was the cheapest of all your real/equal choices, statistically speaking you (the public) would buy it.
@wastelesslearning1245
@wastelesslearning1245 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly not price competitive.
@GrooveTasticThang
@GrooveTasticThang Жыл бұрын
Guess what theNissan Leaf is still doing all of this and a bigger platform. 360 camera, heated everything 60khw 200hp, well under £40k, uk built. Seems to have been forgotten about as the other companies catch up the last 10 years 🤔
@deina4ever.
@deina4ever. Жыл бұрын
I was about to say that. Every reviewer pretends like it doesn't exist! Way more for the money!
@GrooveTasticThang
@GrooveTasticThang Жыл бұрын
@@deina4ever. totally, we’ve run a mrk2 leaf for 4 years it’s been great 👍
@ApurtureSci
@ApurtureSci Жыл бұрын
I find it mildly amusing that despite the aggressive/sporty looks and the price tag indicating the Astra is a reasonably powerful car, it'd get smoked by the higher-output (yet considerably cheaper) Leaf
@Nikoo033
@Nikoo033 Жыл бұрын
Or the Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh/38kWh. I do 5.5 miles/kWh at the moment on mixed road/motorway journeys 😍
@caerphoto
@caerphoto Жыл бұрын
My Leaf's PCP is up in about a year and honestly I'd probably pay the final amount to keep the car, but for one major issue: Chademo. It's hard enough finding working rapid chargers as it is, sometimes, and being unable to use CCS just makes it worse. As it is, I'm likely going to switch to an MG4.
@davidgoodchildcouk
@davidgoodchildcouk Жыл бұрын
As an MG4 owner who has spent time driving a new (petrol) Astra, I have to say the Astra is nicer inside with good use of materials and a bigger boot, but I struggle to see the electric getting 5m/KWh, so I really doubt the range, which is less than the MG, even if it does achieve 5m/KWh. I don't think the Astra drives any better than the MG, and I do resent the insistence of Stellantis on making us all wait for an electric version of an ICE car and then charge 10k more than the MG, which by the way, why no mention of the MG in this video?
@gerrymac5865
@gerrymac5865 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you on this he seems to have forgotten all about the much better spec MG4, this is like watching a Vauxhall advert nothing negative talked about. I wonder how much he’s been paid.
@simonhenry7867
@simonhenry7867 Жыл бұрын
It's a walk around, you don't a test-drive if you rip the piss.
@simonreeves2017
@simonreeves2017 Жыл бұрын
Best looking Astra in years! I suspect they will make too few of the BEV version, and it is too expensive.
@andrewcollie
@andrewcollie Жыл бұрын
It must be the bonnet from the Vauxhall Viva that makes it look so good 😀
@mahargrekab
@mahargrekab Жыл бұрын
Great review, very nice car But totally insane price for a Vauxhall Astra.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Not too long ago, people might have said £25k plus was an insane price for a Mini, yet here we are, with Minis selling well
@ianharding3514
@ianharding3514 Жыл бұрын
I think these cars are aimed at people in my age group (mid 60s). It looks like a normal car, and having actual buttons to control things definitely appeals to an old chap like me. So get ready to see lots of these on the roads, being driven very slowly, and probably very badly, by old gimmers everywhere.
@nicholasarmitt6550
@nicholasarmitt6550 Жыл бұрын
I have a Vauxhall Corsa-e (22 plate); it amuses me when people say they can't get anywhere near their WLTP. Last year we averaged 4.1m/kWh (WLTP 4.4m/kWh). For two of the warmer months, we averaged 4.5m/kWh. The worst we got was 3.8 m/kWh in December, driving through the Scottish Highlands in a snowstorm. At the end of the day, it comes down to how you drive. If you want good efficiency, drive efficiently; if you want to drive around like you're a touring car driver, don't expect to get near the WLTP. Most electric cars seem expensive now; hopefully, the ID2 and Renault 5 will help bring the trend down by following the MG4. When considering the Corsa E now starts just shy of £34k (which is mad), £6k more for the Astra isn't that bad. Thankfully we got our top-of-the-range Corsa-e one for £26k last year; it currently sells new for £36k.
@geoffreyjones6019
@geoffreyjones6019 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m getting 4.5 miles/kWh from my Cupra Born (58 kWh version), which pretty much matches the WLTP range, and that’s on Comfort not Range mode.
@caerphoto
@caerphoto Жыл бұрын
The thing is, WLTP range is not really a useful number, because it involves a lot of urban driving. If that’s all you do, you can probably just charge at home anyway, so range there is largely irrelevant. If you charge overnight, the difference between driving efficiently and having a lead foot is pretty minimal. Motorway driving is where efficiency and range become really important - how far you can go at 60 - 70 mph, not just to get to the next charger, but how much charge you’ll arrive at your destination with. This can be a big problem if you’re going somewhere remote that doesn’t have Level 2, and you need enough to get to a rapid charger on the way back.#
@nicholasarmitt6550
@nicholasarmitt6550 Жыл бұрын
@@caerphoto WLTP is only there to compare different vehicles against each other regarding efficiency. It gives you a baseline to compare against. While in cost, the difference in efficiency in urban driving might be minimal when charging at home (3.6m/kWh compared to 4.2m/kWh over 5k miles is around £20 Regarding the environmental cost, it reduces energy use by roughly 14%. Mind if you can't charge at home like me, the saving cost increases to about £40 based on 5k miles; when calculated on 12k miles, it's £100. Regarding motorway driving, this was 40% of our driving last year, and depending on the weather, we were looking between 3.9m/kWh and 4.3m/kWh, averaging 4.2m/kWh.
@TheGoodDrEvil
@TheGoodDrEvil Жыл бұрын
I've been driving the PHEV version for about a month now and I'm liking it. In terms of EV performance it seems quite efficient too. Can't wait to trade it in for the EV although I do wish they'd offer a version with more range. I'd like to be able to drive for about four hours on the highway before having to recharge. For 99,9% of my drives however, this would already do nicely.
@TheVedabuss
@TheVedabuss Жыл бұрын
£40k! Was looking forward to the estate, not any more, I'll keep my MG5
@OzgunDoganbaloglu
@OzgunDoganbaloglu Жыл бұрын
How many people in the UK can afford to pay over 40k for an electric car? The price needs to come down to below 25k in order to become an affordable option
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Few people "buy" new cars anymore. Many new cars are acquired via personal leases or PCP agreements. You have no worries regarding depreciation that way.....
@metalhead2550
@metalhead2550 Жыл бұрын
Come on Jack you were crammed in the back seat with no leg room at all, don't lie!
@bartvanderauwera6906
@bartvanderauwera6906 Жыл бұрын
Not cramped in the back? But still it seems you're about to shag the drivers seat😂
@alec8568
@alec8568 Жыл бұрын
lol. Made me laugh...
@toby9999
@toby9999 Жыл бұрын
How will EVs ever become popular if the prices stay in the stratospheric? Where are the lower priced smaller cars suitable for city commuting? I wouldn't pay more the $25k for a new car. Any car, ICE or EV. Even less for a used one. The most Ive ever payed for a car was $11k. We need realisticly priced EVs, not pie in the sky stuff.
@Nikoo033
@Nikoo033 Жыл бұрын
The solution is easy: you sell your current ICE car while it still has some value and use this as a deposit to reduce the monthly repayments of a finance used to purchase a 2nd hand EV. In 4-5 years, you’ll be able to purchase a better EV thanks to the resale value and saving costs of your first EV. 👍🏻
@arthemis1039
@arthemis1039 Жыл бұрын
there are EV Megane everywhere in France, I see multiple ones a day
@alamandrax
@alamandrax Жыл бұрын
Jack does great reviews for the algorithm
@rklauco
@rklauco Жыл бұрын
Congrats to Opel/Vauxhall/Stellantis or whatever is the name now - this is a good receipt for success. I hope the drive tests go well - Astra was always reliable and good choice, all the people that I know that had one were very satisfied.
@fredbloggs72
@fredbloggs72 Жыл бұрын
As someone who was part of the 'GM family', let me assure you Astra was never that reliable, and when there where failures GM always blamed the owners, wishbone failures, gearbox failures, heating control failures, all where design or build problems, but for years GM blamed owners.
@The_Hero_Is_Back
@The_Hero_Is_Back Жыл бұрын
I'm in Ireland. Here are some reasons why this Astra might sell here. #1. We have one Tesla dealer (Dublin). There are Opel dealers all over the country. #2. There's an Astra estate coming. Sometimes, you just need a boxier shape that's not an SUV. #3 It's 30cm shorter than a Model 3. The model 3 isn't huge but if your drive isn't long enough or your local or work car park was designed in the 1960s, a shorter car can be a plus (our Soul can park anywhere!). Model 3 is quite wide too. #4. Elon Musk is an... Well, let's not go there. #5. Range. This is a relatively small island. Most people don't need thousands of km range. Drive 300 km in any direction and you're in the sea. #6. Price. The mid-range Astra here is around €33,000. Another few grand for a car that will depreciate more slowly and is cheaper to run can be a plus. If you want an Astra and you're open to electric and there's an Opel dealer across the road - well, why not?
@stevezimmerman5644
@stevezimmerman5644 Жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see how it does. It could be good or bad having the historical tie in with the Astra name. On the one hand, people may feel positive toward a tried and tested brand and model. On the other hand it's a Astra and it costs 40k.
@markfiddy395
@markfiddy395 Жыл бұрын
Id take the MG4 and save £10k. At £40k the Astra has a lot of very strong alternatives despite its claimed efficiency
@Mobile_Dom
@Mobile_Dom Жыл бұрын
im liking Jacks "dad mode" outfits lately
@TeaBreak.
@TeaBreak. Жыл бұрын
It is interesting that fossil based Ev's tend to be lighter and more efficient. But reviewers make a negative comment about them being fossil based. For some strange reason pure eV based cars seem to be around 5 ton in weight and that kills efficiency. No need.
@matthewdilks2677
@matthewdilks2677 Жыл бұрын
It’s just that eSUVs are quite common. In reality Ev based architecture makes a car more efficient, more spacious and cheaper
@williamfence566
@williamfence566 Жыл бұрын
It may be very good but brand perception is huge in the UK. £40K is £8k-10K more than expectation as traditionally vauxhalls also depreciate heavily. Will be a rare sight though which might appeal to some.
@alanhowemusic2457
@alanhowemusic2457 Жыл бұрын
£40,000 for an Astra, come on guys do the car manufacturers think the general public are millionaires.
@tijgerhaai3
@tijgerhaai3 Жыл бұрын
I drive the Peugeot e208. And I think Stellantis hit the jackpot with that. Here in the polder there are 9 driving around. And then a number of ice versions. By offering different power sources, the costs are kept "low". You see the 208 & Corsa throughout the country. Which does indicate that people would like something different than that SUV junk. For daily use, the range is more than sufficient. And if you want to go a little further into the country, there are clubs such as Fastned.
@rbdogwood
@rbdogwood Жыл бұрын
I always found the Astra did what I wanted it for, especially the Estate and early models. Europe certainly needs this sort of smaller car. Perhaps we should get used to the fact that it costs much the same to make a 'big' as a 'small' car. In the meantime Stallantis had better keep a close eye on the MG4 and 5. If I was MG I'd be looking to undercut them.
@xxwookey
@xxwookey Жыл бұрын
MG are already undercutting them. And have an estate you can already buy. They've nearly got that market to themselves at the moment. But I'll certianly take a serious look at the Astra estate when it appears. It's a lot cheaper than a buzz...and _might_ be big enough.
@ziggyspiz9783
@ziggyspiz9783 Жыл бұрын
Why do I have a feeling like the latest episodes of Fully Charged Show turned into commercials?!
@lampy5490
@lampy5490 Жыл бұрын
I would choose this car on the basis that it has actual, physical, tactile BUTTONS alone!
@jonathantaylor1998
@jonathantaylor1998 Жыл бұрын
O... M.... G....!! Put it this way, I'm glad this wasn't a video-call when you announced the price of this Astra Electric... my face would've been a sight to behold... 🤣 £40k is INSANE...!! 😵
@decimal1815
@decimal1815 11 ай бұрын
Really looking forward to range tests with these new Vauxhall EVs. Never mind the introduction prices, in a year these will be very competitive. I hope they give the Korean and PRC EVs a run for their miles per kWh.
@Petelmrg
@Petelmrg Жыл бұрын
I’ve got an MG4 Trophy which certainly isn’t perfect, but that Astra ain’t going to be £7000 better.
@ProvencalG
@ProvencalG Жыл бұрын
0:51, and the MG4 which beats all aforementioned cars.
@Stevk005
@Stevk005 Жыл бұрын
To everyone complaining about the price - the car market has changed. Supply has been chaos the last two years and RnD costs need to be recovered asap from Vauxhall. This is the reality of why it costs so much. Other OEM’s are in the same boat. This will satisfy a HUGE hole in the company car market and that’s why it’s also been built and priced like that. You’ll get yours in three years time second hand once all the first load of company cars come back off lease.
@buckymoto1784
@buckymoto1784 Жыл бұрын
I currently own a VW e-golf. I love it so much I'm actually going to buy it out of its pcp. I will NEVER own an ID3 or any other ID car because I want a GOLF.. Not the Bland looking ID3 that VW have forced on us Golf lovers.. If VW don't bring out another e-golf. I'm not going to be a VW owner for much longer once I'm done with the Mk7.5 e-golf. But although I'm not keen on this astra style it is good to have another family hatchback on the market instead of all these beastly suvs
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty much a Vauxhall fanatic!! Although I have a Renault Zoe at the moment, I’m charging up to a Vauxhall Combo Life Electric camper.
@RPRosen-ki2fk
@RPRosen-ki2fk Жыл бұрын
This is a perfect ev car that fills the worlds needs. Now it just needs ... a REALISTIC price!
@jopo8281
@jopo8281 Жыл бұрын
Loved the ramming of the knee between the door and front seat 😂
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways Жыл бұрын
Yes!! It’s a proper electric car. I’m absolutely certain that the Jeeps and Vauxhall cars are so much better than they were when General Motors had them that I’d expect a decent range from a reasonably sized battery!!
@Teapode
@Teapode Жыл бұрын
Year ago we almost bought Opel Corsa. 50kW battery for a price sounded amaizing. But based on reviews we found out, that Corsa and simmilar Peugeot 208 perfoms very poorly in cold, rainy weather. So in summer you have a 50kW car, in winter its more like you have 30kW car and its more comparable to old Nissan Leaf. Range in winter is halved for Corsa, unlike other brands, where in the winter range is 15-20% lower.
@raysmith1971
@raysmith1971 Жыл бұрын
Can Fully charged stop making previews of cars before they drive them. They guess the range, driving ability etc. It just seems like an advert for Jack to be gushing over a car he hasn't even driven yet.
@DeanVowles
@DeanVowles Жыл бұрын
I think it is an advert. If not, definitely agree it comes across as one! I just assumed it was sponsored content 😅
@bordersw1239
@bordersw1239 Жыл бұрын
Depreciation will be interesting on this - 2 year old electric Corsa’s currently retailing for less than £15k.
@Peoplestariff
@Peoplestariff Жыл бұрын
Yes I’ve seen some for £12k which means a great used buy though I prefer the 208 :)
@mycosys
@mycosys Жыл бұрын
It can be truly said that everyone who made this knows Jack
@grahambeyer6254
@grahambeyer6254 Жыл бұрын
The future Gen has got it sooooo goooood!
@winstoncat6785
@winstoncat6785 Жыл бұрын
I like this approach of smaller battery but huge efficiency too. Let's hope it's true because it's the right approach. Back to the philosophy of the original Ioniq.
@davidvestey6014
@davidvestey6014 Жыл бұрын
Ahh, the flat load lip, the testers’ favourite… so everything can fall out of the boot when you park on a hill…
@Lueeee
@Lueeee Жыл бұрын
Interesting that you said that because I like being able to slide things in the back. It makes loading big items really easy. Never had a problem with things falling out, but I guess it could be a problem.
@allyliddiard7320
@allyliddiard7320 Жыл бұрын
At least he wasn't scratching the plastic on the dashboard as if people spend all day judging the tactile worth of things they pretty much never touch.
@lionessworld
@lionessworld Жыл бұрын
Let's make it a drinking game - every time he says 'bespoke', we take a shot. Cheers. Mate. 🍺🍺
@alre9766
@alre9766 Жыл бұрын
Renault Megane e-tech cheaper, better equipped, better range and more beautiful
@Darx97
@Darx97 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@jonathancullen1337
@jonathancullen1337 Жыл бұрын
Megane eTech tramps all over this on every conceivable metric including price...
@Darx97
@Darx97 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathancullen1337 and it looks surprisingly decent
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways Жыл бұрын
Yes!! You bet there’s a great little car!! It’s one of the best electric cars available to us.
@simonmatthews7512
@simonmatthews7512 Жыл бұрын
It needs to be a sensible price or it's just willy waving for rich kids.
@cubeflinger
@cubeflinger Жыл бұрын
Nice car. I'll pick one up second hand in two years for 18k
@EliotHochberg
@EliotHochberg Жыл бұрын
Thank you for acknowledging the transition. That OEMs need to make in order to get to an all electric future. The companies have to stay in business, and electric vehicles and the infrastructure isn’t there yet. Of course, if electric infrastructure was completely sold, and the cost versus range issue was also soft, then I could see being more critical. But the fact of the matter is, these companies have a lot of issues to juggle. And unless the government was going to subsidize vehicle production, to greater extent they already are, we all know that they will be transitional platforms and vehicles.
@ededdynova
@ededdynova Жыл бұрын
This is great news i loved my 2018 cdti astra estate, stood up well to a side impact from a hgv running a red light into me and left me with just x2 displaced vertebra. I hope the estate will have a 300 plus mile range as for our work fleet we do upto 160miles each way with no infrastructure at job sites hence why we still run cdti as upto 820miles per tank. Bigger boots than any suv too, my 2022 kia sportage plug hybrid gives me 329miles of range with a plug in and full tank of fuel bearly getiing 38mpg as average and boot is smaller then the sister inlaws 2009 astra 😢
@user-fs4gp7un2r
@user-fs4gp7un2r 11 ай бұрын
Love you guys
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways Жыл бұрын
Looks as good as the Combo!! I rather like the interior of the Vauxhall cars!! And for me, having Wookey Hole for a boot is necessary because I would like to be able to carry my model railway layout in the car with me!!
@markcollins457
@markcollins457 Жыл бұрын
I think car companies are perfecting the restaurant line of thinking and they tweek and add spices and arrange everything so it all looks good on the plate when they set it down in front of you. It all has to look good at first sitting or it's just sustenance. The big issue does it taste good and will it fill you up and satisfy your craving enough to tell two people of your experience. Like a restaurant if the meal is spot on people enjoy and pay extra for relatively the same thing and tell two friends.
@stevehayward1854
@stevehayward1854 Жыл бұрын
I loved my old Opel Manta, gorgeous design
@shhhyouknowhoo3753
@shhhyouknowhoo3753 Жыл бұрын
Me too. Orange!
@newhappiness4410
@newhappiness4410 Жыл бұрын
Jack can make any car look interesting “interesting” can we find out how much range will we get from a 1yr old EV? As medium segment EVs are still expensive
@_Makanko_
@_Makanko_ Жыл бұрын
Well, plenty has been said below. Regarding pricing, unmentioned rivals etc. This is not a car I would be interested in buying. Thanks for helping me make that decision.
@xxwookey
@xxwookey Жыл бұрын
You said Stellantis vehicles were hamstrung by a poor platform, but the Vivaro/Expert/Dispatch was the best range e-van you could get for about 18 months, until the Buzz came out. Not bad for a shared-with-diesel platform. So yeah the cars were so-so but the vans were leading the pack.
@ewadge
@ewadge Жыл бұрын
And this is the reason why legacy manufacturers are getting out of this segment. £40k is the price Astra feel like they can make a profit and that is unfortunately too much compared to what the Chinese can make a car. Know also that the Leaf is going to be discontinued without a replacement. Nissan have figured out that they cannot compete in this segment with the MG4.
@philtucker1224
@philtucker1224 Жыл бұрын
Undercut on pricing against the competition is a well proven sales strategy strategy.
@simondehaas8784
@simondehaas8784 Жыл бұрын
I sat inside this new Astra at Fully Charged North. It is way smaller inside than my ID3 and the materials are really cheap - swathes of hard black plastic. I was disappointed. Hopefully the e308 will be nicer but undoubtedly will still be cramped. Having said that, if the estate has a really good load space and is genuinely efficient it will be a good option.
@AndrewHelgeCox
@AndrewHelgeCox Жыл бұрын
Are the physical buttons illuminated?
@strollingwithsi
@strollingwithsi Жыл бұрын
You would 100 % just get a RWD model 3 if you're willing to spend 40k on a car.
@Leonfr_2022
@Leonfr_2022 Жыл бұрын
Why is it a LHD Vauxhall, considering it's only Vauxhall over here in the UK with RHD and then Opel everywhere else!? Or am I missing something??
@jwebbgrv
@jwebbgrv Жыл бұрын
I like the profile of the estate. Makes previous models look so boxy.
@MyImperfectEcoJourney
@MyImperfectEcoJourney Жыл бұрын
I have a 'classic' Ioniq 38kWh which easily achieves 5.1 miles per kWh. It may be class leading now but its that classic Ioniq still thrashes it at efficiency today.
@michaelprusek
@michaelprusek Жыл бұрын
I drive electric Corsa daily and it's great city car worth it's price. I've been inside petrol Astra and it feels smaller than Corsa so it better be much more efficient.
@stuartjohnston1086
@stuartjohnston1086 Жыл бұрын
I'll be amazed if the range and efficiency is anywhere near what they claim. That being said I quite like it. We currently have the Corsa-E and it's a good car. £40k does seem pretty expensive, but it's a Vauxhall, 3 years down the road and you'll pick up and ex lease or ex PCP one for £20k.
@Djeseret
@Djeseret Жыл бұрын
"I'll be amazed if the range and efficiency is anywhere near what they claim" - According to the results of the German test drives, it exceeds... all stated figures... the range and efficiency are clearly better than claimed. It is a sensation.
@gigabyte2248
@gigabyte2248 Жыл бұрын
My 40kWh Leaf gets 4 miles/kWh most days outside of winter and it has been known to get >5 miles/kWh on really good days. Vauxhall's claim is not that outlandish.
@drewcipher896
@drewcipher896 Жыл бұрын
Know it's gonna be an interesting video when every comment is talking about the price tag.
@00Resev
@00Resev Жыл бұрын
You know what? I'm not even going to bother to pay any further attention to EVs that don't come on a bespoke platform. And most certainly not for that price.
@mikemellor759
@mikemellor759 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@dan123collins
@dan123collins Жыл бұрын
Volvo EX30 has been released at £33.7k and is extremely well equipped as standard. You would have to be mental to pick the astra over that.
@dazza9360
@dazza9360 Жыл бұрын
Nice boot but does the rear seats fold flat? 🤔
@mev202
@mev202 Жыл бұрын
40k.. Hello MG4, MG5. Vauxhall had clearly been smoking something when they come up with the price. Ridiculous.
@danielmadar9938
@danielmadar9938 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TomTom-cm2oq
@TomTom-cm2oq Жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you tell us whether or not it has a heat pump? I think that’s a very important piece of important, and I’m sure I’m not the only one… Also, for 40g, you don’t think it’s better to get a Long Range Model 3?? How does anyone justify that purchase?
@hollyandtheev6519
@hollyandtheev6519 Жыл бұрын
If this was low 30s, this would absolutely own the UK EV market. At 40k, they will struggle to sell many. Such a shame - looks great apart from the price. The estate could do better - a lot of people will be prepared to pay a bit more for a good estate.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Few cars are "sold" these days. Many are acquired via personal leasing or PCP agreements.
@hollyandtheev6519
@hollyandtheev6519 Жыл бұрын
This is true, but the finance on more expensive cars is… well… more expensive.
@key66D
@key66D Жыл бұрын
Curious, but as this is a Vauxhall and not an Opel, how come the steering wheel is on the left and not the right? 🤔 I know that obviously Opel would have the steering on the left, but Vauxhall as far as I know, is only sold in the UK?
@stephenc6648
@stephenc6648 Жыл бұрын
I've seen this before on these videos. I wonder if they have stick-on badges to attach to pre-production Opels purely for showing to the British media.
@cesartrujillo4190
@cesartrujillo4190 Жыл бұрын
Is there a frunk?
@youtuberpov
@youtuberpov Жыл бұрын
Always a great review 😊
@setantii4650
@setantii4650 Жыл бұрын
First video I've watched on this channel and it feels like it's sponsored by Stellantis. Why would you pay £40k for a Vauxhall when you can get a Tesla for the same money?
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
No, I wouldn't pay £40k for this Astra. Nor would I want a Tesla Model 3 (or any other Tesla) if they are as bad as the new one I looked at pre-pandemic. It was thrown together, like a badly built kit car.....
@marcuswells4116
@marcuswells4116 Жыл бұрын
How much! Jack full credit for keeping a straight face when telling us that price, do the good people at Stellantis know that it is 12k over priced or have they just gone raving mad? Hmm MG 4 wins again then
@ezeJeff
@ezeJeff Жыл бұрын
Australia and New Zealand the car was known as Holden Astra. I sold my Holden Opel Astra in 2018
@54mgtf22
@54mgtf22 Жыл бұрын
Hey Jack. Love your work 👍
@hamshackleton
@hamshackleton Жыл бұрын
Price - one and a half MG5 estates! Space in the back - none. I've had several petrol Vauxhalls, over the years, and they've all been rot-boxes. The last one I had, a Chevette hatch, snapped two timing chains in a couple of years, totally wrecking the 1256cc engine the second time.
@jonc-1989
@jonc-1989 Жыл бұрын
I'd rather get a used Ioniq 38kWh (which i have an easily get 5.5mi/kWh and is spacious enough and very well equipped and has the same sort of range as the Astra) or an MG5 first gen. Both would be about half the price or pay a bit more and get a brand new MG4 for around 25-27K - Plus all these options have better warranties
@timmurphy5541
@timmurphy5541 Жыл бұрын
I think there's so much demand that people will be found who will buy them at the price. When that becomes a problem it will suddenly get cheaper.
@benspriggs5430
@benspriggs5430 Жыл бұрын
Price aside this new Astra (regardless of powertrain) is growing on me
@PaulHo
@PaulHo Жыл бұрын
Can't believe I'm saying this, but this Astra is more compelling than the silly E:Ny1, from an entirely uninformed US perspective.
@AJames-jr8kw
@AJames-jr8kw Жыл бұрын
The estate version looked OK in red. This blue one looked like an 80s car and it is 50% more expensive than a MG4. Hmmm ... the BYD Seal starts at 189K Yuan in China or less than 22kGBP. It will probably be the same price as this Astra in the UK but if you look at Elliott's review you will realise it is streets ahead in every department. Sad but Stellantis needs to bite the bullet and design an all electric platform or badge engineer something like an Aion Y or V from China.
@adamgbk1
@adamgbk1 Жыл бұрын
If car manufacturers keep ignoring the existence of the MG4 because they want to charge as much as the market will allow then they’re gonna keep finding out that anti consumer practices will not be tolerated
@AdamPearce
@AdamPearce Жыл бұрын
Jack - I really do appreciate your optimism and realism when presenting a new car. But I also have to note the price commentary is off base. 40k is not sensible. In fact it is utterly bonkers. Small+Efficient=Lower Cost in auto speak. That's not what we're hearing here.
@pauldenney7908
@pauldenney7908 Жыл бұрын
Looks good but at £40k I think I would wait 3 years and by an ex fleet car at auction for half of that, assuming fleets buy them because at £40k I don't think anyone else will.
@aeonturnip2
@aeonturnip2 Жыл бұрын
It was all going so well until you mentioned the price - it's just not competitive with MG and Hyundai with bespoke EVs for far less money.
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