The New Feudalism

[@milesblue638]

Worshipping of the rich is a sign of our terminal decline as a nation.

[@zbrown187]

Probably the most faux-intellectual thing I've read this week, bravo

[@inkuban]

Nailed it.

[@DrCruel]

The rise of socialist greed is a sign of our terminal decline as a nation.

[@samurilip]

we worship the rich because they are respected, have lavish life styles, and young beautiful women throw there bodies at them.... that equates humans with a terminal decline as a nation

[@DrCruel]

@@samurilip Actually, people become rich either by doing something useful or by stealing from others. When our rich were self-made men, our country prospered. Now they are increasingly socialist thieves. That equates with a terminal decline for a nation.

[@a.s.6272]

“...the ability to believe in fake things is essential to upholding the kind of system we have.” 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@thomasjaggers3576]

George Carlin said - That's why it's called the American dream. Because you have to be asleep to believe it.

[@dystopiaahoy]

We still haven’t understood our own basic nature, a lot of what we do is just to take the easiest path forward and then justify it to ourselves afterwards. A great deal of what we do is to some degree unconscious, but people react with outrage when you suggest that they aren’t fully in control all of the time. Being in control all of the time means that you are at all times fully aware of your actions and conscious of the long term repercussions that they entail, both for yourself and for the wider community. Asking that plastic bags be banned for instance shows that we don’t want to be burdened with having to make that choice, because convenience would win out almost all of the time for most people.

[@rinzler9171]

@@thomasjaggers3576 he said this, but that doesn't make it true.

[@thomasjaggers3576]

@@rinzler9171 That's right, just like what you said doesn't really mean anything.

[@gemain609]

Going all the way back to Colonialism. What's happening in America and by extension Europe is the natural outcome of believing absurdities to justify atrocities

[@melanieohara6941]

I have mused about this for years, calling our current economic culture, “Corporate Feudalism.” So glad I came upon this. Thank you!🙋🏼‍♀️

[@1848revolt]

Its name is crony capitalism. And capitalists like to say it's socialism(it isnt) and progressives like to say socialism for the rich(also not true)

[@raoulhery]

what a visionnary, and this was before COVID where States use fear and terror to protect us from the "evils".

[@paulziolo9241]

I agree. I’ve called it ‘corpocracy’,.

[@richardacevedo280]

In my youth I worked serving executives of the defunct Times Mirror Corporation. I was also a student at USC, so my work experience was very formative. Something that stroke me about your comment is that your allusion to what I refer to as corporate slavery. We all end up being corporate slaves. The only thing that may save the day is that from the times of Egypt there were scribes. I thought, yes, it has been the only way to get by, but in reality, I have never believed that slavery has been abolished.

[@timeWaster76]

It's childish

[@garygraham2513]

Being 70 years old and, having grown up in, what was then, a Small city,(Colo. Spgs.) and being raised by a father from a farming community and a mother from South America who was raised in a European style country, (Brazil) I don't recall the worship of wealth being a factor in learning how to live a good life. I feel as if I have seen this change in my lifetime, and have never been comfortable with it. I still hold onto the notion of being a good citizen of my block, neighborhood, city, state, country, planet. If a 10 mile wide asteroid is found, and is Destined to strike the planet, be assured that your wealth might keep you around a little bit longer than the masses, but when this rock becomes uninhabitable for a long period, it will eventually take you down too. All that wealth will mean nothing. Remember, we invented this concept of money, and it really only exists because we think it does. Thanks for reading for reading, GG.

[@user-tz8ze3tp7m]

I'm brazillian, and if you think things are bad in America, danm, here everyone is desperate for money, inequality is even more staggering and with instagram and shit, we developed this sort of bragging culture, showing how hotter and richer than other people we are

[@garygraham2513]

Unfortunately no. My Mother felt that because she lived in the US, she would speak only English. I wish now that she hadn't. Only time I heard Portuguese was when my Aunts and Uncles came to visit. I completely loved their spirit.

[@garygraham2513]

I find this to be sad. The very wealthy are making this crap happen Every where. They should realize that we have them outnumbered.

[@mikalrain]

@@user-tz8ze3tp7m Young people are doing that in Iran too these days, even as the rest are living crushed under the effects of sanctions. Instabullshit, showy-offy behaviour is a world-wide phenomenon.

[@mikalrain]

Thank you, Gary, for sharing this. It gives some hope knowing that wealth-worship hasn't always been around. Then we _can_ build a path to a society of saner values.

[@Em-wb4kf]

I love listening to this man, Anand. Thank God there are still some sane, balanced people in our world.

[@automatedluxuryposadism6971]

The center is so much farther to the left than we think

[@Luke-tt3dt]

Agreed, he speaks extremely well and has good sources/has done his research, and has a way of looking at things from multiple perspectives that makes him persuasive, I'd love to have those kinds of traits to be able to make a difference and win people over. Too many people in our culture worshipping the rich and the status quo.

[@visheshrao5629]

It seems he has talked with a variety of people to come to these conclusions!

[@kylestyyle987]

AutomatedLuxuryPosadism Who cares how far left he is, his opinions make sense and are well researched

[@rjvowels]

Exactly!!!

[@yarik12341]

"the only CEO in American history to have possibly tipped the federal election result." Maybe they weren't called CEOs back then but in the 1800 captains of industry defiantly did similar. Its a tradition as old as time.

[@FurnaxIkki]

People always like to pretend that the problems we face today didn't have equivalents in the past.

[@jollyrancher667]

I was thinking the same thing - the "barons" of the 19th and early 20th Century in the United States - just prior to major anti-trust, anti-monopoly legislation - had those same characteristics. Richest people in the world, large scale humanitarian concerns (who didn't have a Carnegie Library in their town growing up?)...but ultimately they were the same. Read Sociopathic Society, by Charles Derber, if you're interested.

[@FurnaxIkki]

@@jollyrancher667 Goes back even further than that too. My super right-wing anti-establishment friends don't know jack shit about Shay's Rebellion or the Whiskey Rebellion. Common folk were getting fucked over by the Founding Fathers ffs. John Hancock legitimately let shit go to hell, then sat out an election cycle claiming to be ill just so his successor would take the fall, and then swoops back in. All while Sam Adams said anyone unwilling to support the republic is a traitor and should die.

[@madisonbryant4417]

Its similar but different, what Facebook has done in changing the minds of Americans is unprecedented. This isn't just money talking anymore its control of a technology that has powerful sway over its users emotions. Its faaar more dangerous.

[@FurnaxIkki]

@@madisonbryant4417 And I'm all for some good ol' fashioned trust busting and clamping down on the propagation of misinformation in the meantime. But still, having sway over people's emotions? That has been happening since forever. The election between Adams and Jefferson had newspapers flat-out saying you'd be damned to hell if you voted for the wrong candidate.

[@DumbDumb855]

Incredibly well broken down in a fairly simple fashion. People who THINK they’re smart because they’re RICH

[@timberdoodle6924]

@Kawhi's burner account same for Bill Gates - he just stole or bought innovation - he was smart for his business insight . Guys like Nicholas Tesla ( who was poor at the end) Are the true contributors to our species.

[@flash_flood_area]

I used to work for wealthy people in their homes. Appalling how banal they are, while believing themselves to be exceptional.

[@majdavojnikovic]

Yes, that is what i saw too, moment people make some money they get impression they are experts on everything.

[@hippychikforever]

And most did not "make it through hard work." They either hit the birth lottery or did whatever was necessary to increase their wealth. No billionaire is benevolent.

[@icyx9268]

@@timberdoodle6924 bought "innovation" well actually no he bought through stolen exploited privledge money access to progress and they are able to impose there illusion of "rule" over everyone else through regression progress capping propagation of an illusion through ppls incompetance and blind unconscious thoughtless adaptivity subserviancy to just or just as whatever the new way in which is being given to them as an illusive treat / survival immediate survival and incompetance and to sustain this illusion they have to make whatever they ahve as "importance" or prioritisation so they dehumanise ppl to make them prioratise something regressive destrucdtive harmful unsustainable based on corruption manipulation and but of which i have just explained is nothing but regression disguised as innovation that to unknowledgable ppl seem like progress because its the only thing they are being fed or have exposure of which he used through resorting back to the only authoritarian ways he knows of and then degeneration and exploitation of it for further trivial illusion of advantage the only weay he knows how

[@cpuwrite]

It was feudalism that capitalism overthrew. Then America was founded. Then a gentleman by the name of Karl Marx came along and pointed out that capitalism wasn't as big a step up from feudalism as some claimed it was--and by the 1920's the stock market crash had served to show the merit of many of his arguments. In the 1930's, a gentleman named Franklin Roosevelt made some structural changes to capitalism. He was able to do this because a coalition of Communist and Socialist political parties and Unions gave him popular backing. Those groups were systematically destroyed after they did, and even though these structural changes made capitalism as a system more viable and more durable, these changes were slowly undone in the years since then. Now, with the New Deal being destroyed, all the things that caused it in the first place are coming back. It should be no surprise to anyone.

[@cpuwrite]

@Shariq Torres I, too, have noticed that it is not just corporations, for lack of a better term, within capitalism that need competition to function best, but capitalism itself. I think that we can all agree that it doesn't work particularly well on its own.

[@alacritouscrier7315]

@@cpuwrite Not without strong government regulation and oversight.

[@cpuwrite]

@@alacritouscrier7315 That's where the competition comes from. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

[@pellergin]

Mercantilism in conjunction with the renaissance overthrew feudalism, not capitalism.

[@dunnetahl]

Not sure if we're on the same page here, but if you're saying capitalism isn't perfect but it's better than what it replaced, I couldn't agree more. I think the New Deal ushered in a lot of positive changes (again, not perfect) that are being destroyed by radical idealism (thank you to Jordan Peterson for speaking out against this). Lastly I had to stop watching this video @ 8:30 when Anand said: "We have a system for making this country better, it's called democracy" maybe someone can tell me if there was anything valuable said in the rest of the video but I could no longer find it a valuable use of my time to hear someone's opinions on democracy and capitalism when they clearly have no understanding of tyranny of the majority. Anand Giridharadas, I'm not sure if you will ever see this but if you do, please read the essay On Liberty by John Stuart Mill published in 1859 discussing the breakdown of our government as a result of democracy. There is a reason Xi Jinping has brought 800 million people out of poverty in the last 10 years... it is NOT democracy.

[@advocacynaccountablity]

Anand G is an incredible author, interviewer, thinker. He continues to break down our society in a very clear way, accessible to all of us.

[@JohnSmith-pn1vv]

He seems to have a problem with white people no?

[@nerdgirldragon3374]

Most villains don't see themselves as villains, that doesn't mean they aren't evil.

[@Vinnytendo64]

thats an oxy moron... if they dont view themselves as evil/villains then they cannot be categorized as such. because they wont have the perspective of being evil or villainous. therefore you cannot help or change them from being as such.

[@mduckernz]

@@Vinnytendo64 Not necessarily; you would be right for those of a chaotic evil alignment but lawful evil, someone can fully acknowledge their desire to exploit others for their own selfish benefit, which is evil, but their lawful nature leads them to rationalise that while this specific act might be harmful, it is for the benefit of the society since it was carried out within a certain framework (you would see this sort of thing with say the Wehrmacht in WW2...

[@Vinnytendo64]

@@mduckernz dude... you are using dungeons and dragons alignments to not make a point... wtf. also you cant classify someone as evil if they dont feel they are evil, because a someone doing evil actions out of necessity isnt evil. for instance someone with a horrendous addiction kills someone while attempting a robbery to pay for their addiction, simpletons would just classify that junkie as evil. however intelligent people realize the junkie isnt simply evil. that person sought out a solution to their horrible situation in life and it went very wrong, which resulted in a death. it's various shades of neutrality if anything D&D alignment related, not simply good and evil.

[@mjc42701]

@@Vinnytendo64 But if that action is repeated multiple times by the same person, is it evil then?

[@Vinnytendo64]

@@mjc42701 depends. also no. willful evil acts when they dont need to do them is abhorrent, but stealing from a store for some food is nature. primates steal, other animals steal and kill and a variety of other "evil" actions. declaring someone evil is simple to do, but understanding that doing evil shit is a capability by anyone given certain circumstances is a complex matter. like kids that bully other kids, evil or primitive territorial behavior displayed by a child's brain? granny that lies to her doctor about the severity of her pain to get a prescription filled and sells half the pills for cash. evil or intelligent bartering?

[@zorazorazorzzora8333]

I so appreciate hearing him speak. Ive worked all my life, 19 months ago I started living in my car... years ago I made more money.. those jobs are gone and or scarce ... wages are stagnant... and yet they say the economy is doing great... ha!... I raised a son with Asperger Syndrome-health insurance wouldn’t cover his care so I paid out of pocket... it broke me!

[@guesswho5790]

This is heartbreaking. I can only wish you well and better luck for the future. And no. It is not your fault. It's a messed up system that refuses to look after their own people, and cater to the whims of a few wealthy entitled bullies.

[@Blackpilld]

I’m very sorry. How are you now? Healthcare is a travesty

[@scottpreston5074]

God help us all. May you be well, happy, and peaceful.

[@imarchello]

@@Blackpilld Healthcare? More like Healthprofit.

[@josron6088]

I really really hope things have gotten better.

[@samjosef4139]

"We actually have a system in this country for making the world a better place and it is called democracy,but I will tell something , the winners of our age don't like to use that system for their world betterment schemes. You know why? They only have one vote in that system. That is not enough votes for them" : Anan Giridharadas

[@debbywillan5165]

The elite do use democracy, they chose who you can vote for.

[@daTribbleMaker]

electoral college. And votes don't compare to donations.

[@ritamariekelley4077]

Isn't it amazing that Flint could be fixed for a few million and none of these "philanthropists" has stepped up... Philanthropy is not galas, nor having a room or a building or a wing named after you, nor supporting the arts--those are the easy, clean parts. True giving represents sacrifice, not tax deductions... The Kochs/A.L.E.C., have been social engineering for 30+ years.

[@ingemarsmith4154]

The problem is corporations running the world. Not that they aren't running it the 'right way' with, as you write about 'true giving'.

[@beldiman5870]

" True giving represents sacrifice, not tax deductions...". I keep telling this to all those "charities" who are stoping me in the middle of big cities around the world asking for donations. but they still keep on telling me that they only want my money, not my personal involvement.

[@antediluvianatheist5262]

@@beldiman5870 Money is easier for most.

[@beldiman5870]

@@antediluvianatheist5262 Indeed, it is easier to just donate and walk away with a "good" conscience. It is more difficult and time consuming to be personally involved in charity activities.

[@senoracheapee1864]

Rita Marie Kelley more like since the First World War

[@michelleh7828]

I am 60 and always thought this. Thank you! I am not crazy.

[@spetsnaz4027]

Validation

[@neuemilch8318]

you're not crazy to think that, don't let anyone convince you that you are.

[@PeterStanton]

I've got to read this book. I graduated from Georgetown in '13 and was disgusted by how many of my classmates were there to sell their souls to the most powerful bidder (and that doing so would represent success and mean they were doing the greatest good). Obviously I'd like to imagine I'm a better person because I refused to do the same, but I think if my frame of reference had been just a little different, (if my family was higher "caste," as Anand describes it), I would have fallen in line just as easily.

[@incorectulpolitic]

Breediot Joel: You are wrong, having a child gives you purpose and joy. Their a blessing from Gawd. Preventionist: Thanks Joel you cleared that up… LMFAO ROTF Why is it about giving YOU purpose and Joy. What is truly in it for the child? Children are also humans and not just objects like toys. The unborn have no problems until they are raped into existence by creepy, disturbed, child hating, bored to death, miserable, toxic against children, merciless, irresponsible, egoistic, cruel, brutal, violent, unempathetic, uncompassionate, lonely, loser, drug addict/alcoholic, coward, poor, toxic, narcissist, selfish, broke from all points of views, low IQ, sadist, psychopathic, depressed, anxious, mentally ill, delusional, evil, hateful, purposeless megalomaniacal power tripping control freak breediots. The public indoctrination camps don't teach you how to think, they teach you WHAT to think. Breeders are so blind to how evil they are. Procreation is worse than murder. It is the first step for the possibility of murder to occur after all! Where do breediots get the right to impose unnecessary risk, exploitation from all points of views, suffering and death, without consent/permission? This question is a “check mate” for every breeding dipshit. Because they must expose themselves to be sadomasochists in order to honestly answer any part of it. Ability doesn’t equal right. Life isn’t necessary. And consent matters. Breeders have no rational or ethical/moral response to any of this. Pro life = pro-suffering and pro-death. It’s all or nothing. The only thing a parent can guarantee their child, is that they’ll be exploited from all points of views, suffer and die, pointlessly. If one considers themselves empathetic, it is this fact alone that they must refuse to recognize because they subconsciously know it completely destroys any feelings of entitlement towards procreation. A child is consigned/forced to a lifelong of exploitation from all points of views, suffering, misery and death by his own father and mother. Birth is but the beginning of a trajectory exploitation from all points of views, suffering, misery and death plus eternal torture in hell for forever/eternity for 80- 90% of humanity; for all their love, breediot-parents cannot halt any of these ‘gifts’/’wonders’ of life and in a sense have "given us to death" merely by giving us birth, i.e raping us/forcing us against our will, without our consent/permission into this hellish existence. It is so cute and endearing that your reaction to the certitude of an impending ecological disaster that includes famine, civil-unrest and irreversible mass extinctions all over the world (as a consequence of breeding), is to pump out another sweet little unit, I mean baby. How about adopting ? Procreating is the ultimate egotistical display and irresponsibility. Those with the right dose of DELUSION are more likely to FORCE innocent souls against their will into this hellish existence, whereas those who see the human condition for what it is, are unlikely to force innocent souls AGAINST THEIR WILL into this hellish existence. Become a hero! Do NOT Reproduce. Meaning, do not force innocent souls against their will, without their permission into this hellhole existence. Spare your child from a lifelong of: exploitation from all points of views, harm, disease, misery, suffering, DEATH and eternal torture in hell. If innocent souls were forced into this hellhole by an act of pure selfless reason ALONE, would the human race exist? Would not a man/woman rather have so much sympathy with the coming generation as to spare it the burden of hellish existence, or at any rate not take upon himself/herself to impose that hellish burden upon it with selfish cold blood? It is curious that while the few good people that still exist on earth go to great lengths to spare their children, who they forced into this hellish existence against their will in the first place, from suffering... few of of the few of them seem to notice that the one and ONLY guaranteed was to prevent all the suffering of their children is not to force those innocent souls against their will into this hellhole existence in the first place. Even the luckiest inhabitants of this hellhole suffer MUCH discomfort, pain, anxiety, disappointment, fear, grief, death and much else. AL of these harms could have been avoided if the people suffering them had never been force into this hellish existence. Great exploitation from all points of views awaits ALL innocents souls who were forced against their will, without their consent/permission by their irresponsible, selfish, sadist breediot parents. Even the most privileged people could force a child against his/her will into this hellhole that will suffer unbearably, be raped, assaulted, or be murdered brutally. The 'optimist' suffering with severe/extreme hopium addiction surely bears the burden of justifying this procreational russian roulette. There are no such things as responsible breeders/breediots. Strollers...resemble bulldozers, both in form and function. And...they have a directly proportional economic relationship: the more baby strollers needed, the more bulldozers will be manufactured to clear wild lands and make way for the suburban housing developments and agricultural fields necessary to support those endless, shrieking little shit factories (who will become HUGE shit factories)--and their offspring, and their offspring, ad infinitum... The definition of slavery fits to ALL children being forced into existence against their will. Most of them are brought to satisfy needs of someone other than themselves, the rest are born out of accidents. Almost all are imprinted with ideologies of their breediot-parents. By definition they cannot escape this. This along with the fact that they were brought here without their consent/permission makes the similarity to slavery uncanny. Whether you have 1 slave or a 100 slaves, or if you have 1 child or a 100, it is only a matter of degree. there's no viable possibility whatsoever of bringing a human being into existence with their explicit permission/consent. Procreation in itself is always a selfish and irresponsible act by the breediot parents. If there were a way of obtaining a concerned person's consent, it'd be a different discussion, but there obviously is none. Objectively, there is nothing lost for the person concerned if not forced into existence. I'm loving my child so much I will never force it into existence, even if we had a perfectly pacifist society. Combining the view that fetuses lack moral standing in the earlier stages of pregnancy with the view that it is always a harm to come into existence turns the prevailing presumptions about abortion on their head. Instead of a presumption in favour of a continuing pregnancy, we should adopt a presumption, at least in the earlier stages of pregnancy, against carrying a fetus to term. This is the 'pro-death' view of abortion. On this view, it is not any given abortion (in the earlier stages of pregnancy) that requires justification, but rather any given failure to abort. For such failure allows somebody to suffer the serious harm of coming into existence. My argument has not been simply that pregnant women are entitled to have an abortion (in the earlier stages). I have argued for the stronger claim that abortion (during these stages) would be preferable to carrying the fetus to term. This is not the same as arguing that abortions should be forced on people. Thus my conclusion should be viewed as recommendations about how pregnant woman should make use of the freedom to choose whether or not to abort. I am recommending that she does abort and that she needs excellent reason not to. It should be clear that I do not think that there is any such reason. Women are COMPLETE human beings. NOT potential mothers. Motherhood is just an option. Women ain't breeding machines ! Lisa Ling said she had her 2nd child so that her first child won't be "alone in the world" should she and her husband die. Imagine being brought into this world for the sole purpose of keeping a sibling company... like a kind of 'PET-human' !?..... even then its not certain that company will last forever: siblings also go a divergent way & dont care for each other any longer… and the irony is that the more crowded the world gets, the more people breed out of fear of being "alone." Sad. Oh, Lisa Ling is also hopeful that her daughters will bring her grandchildren. If destruction is violence, creation, too, is violence. Breeding/Procreation, therefore, involves violence. The creation of what is bound to perish certainly involves violence. Caring men and women should have qualms about forcing a child without his/her consent/permission into this world. 'So long as they (the Proles) continued to work and breed, their other activities were without importance. Left to themselves, like cattle turned loose upon the plains of Argentina, they had reverted to a style of life that appeared to be natural to them, a sort of ancestral pattern.... Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with neighbors, films, football/sports, sex, fashion, beer and above all, gambling filled up the horizon of their minds. to keep them in control was not difficult.' - George Orwell's 1984 book.

[@stelladonaconfredobutler9459]

its a great book. He verified many thoughts Ive had for decades. His new book, The Persuaders is just as good.

[@DrCruel]

Bill Clinton went to Georgetown. Whoring themselves out for money is why many students choose Georgetown. It's also why there's such a large presence there of socialist student clubs.

[@IndiaAniya25]

Then you have these trust fund babies going to these prestigious schools and getting the top positions in Corporate America and then telling the people who didn't have a trust fund that they didn't work hard enough and they should earn it just like they did.

[@bullmoosemedia]

That college admissions scandal would have greatly pissed me if I didn't expect something like that to happen.

[@IndiaAniya25]

Bull Moose Progressive exactly. It was not surprising at all.

[@IndiaAniya25]

Healing_ Awakening I am constantly checking myself regarding how I treat others and my own internal beliefs about people’s circumstances that I know nothing about or haven’t experienced myself. I have always found it interesting for anyone to speak on another’s circumstances when they themselves have never even gone through that experience but feel they can tell someone how and what they should be doing. Very entitled way of being.

[@Michael-qy1jz]

It's always been that way. The huge problem I have is that these tens of trillions of wealth transfer to the top has been because the Fed has forced interest rates to Zero for a decade now which steals sour free market savings rates and wealth to the top so they can finance and ride asset bubbles for almost free, they can speculate for almost free, and debtors are saved. Horrible.

[@100_Dollar_Bill]

Waaaaaah

[@yetneshdubey860]

We should all just stop fighting among ourselves & understand that we are being manipulated. Our only true friend is our fellow man who is suffering from the same problem, no Matter where he is around the world. No middle class youth in today's economy can afford to buy a house, a car. Almost every one is working two jobs & is totally depressed. While our political leaders & pundits have nothing better to divide us among the lines of left/right. The only Division in this world is what it always have been. Between the haves & have not.

[@___Truth___]

Do you seriously think we don't want to have better uniformity in this country? Damn near everyone wants to live with each other better and genuinely wants to do good with themselves and their family, community, and do good to the country. Doing good isn't the issue, because seemingly everyone wants to do good, the real question is HOW DO WE DO GOOD, that question is the only thing stopping us, people for the most part can't agree on that, wanting to do good is something almost all people want to do.

[@yetneshdubey860]

@@___Truth___ it's good that understand this. Now we can only do it one way. If someone comes at you while being angry or triggered or anything else. Just simply tell them that it's not very nice. Tell them that although there is free speech in this country I'd never wanna use it to hurt you or insult you. Just by saying these words you can make even the most different of people feel included. In the end everyone just wanna feel included. Tell them that no matter what their opinion is, your country wouldn't be a country without them. Do what Gandhi did, if they're angry, then you become sensible. And most importantly don't be just pretend to be sensible & understanding, actually be one. Because it'll take a lot of convincing for your fellow man. At the end of the day, if any calamity comes, only your fellow man/woman/transwoman will have to face them, along with u. All of us are different but we are same in the fact that we just want three things, a job, social acceptance, & a roof over our head .

[@kev3d]

"Our only true friend is our fellow man who is suffering from the same problem" Why? His life is his own. His choices are his to make. Maybe there is a very good reason he is suffering. Does he drink to excess? Does he smoke? Gamble? Does he do nothing to improve his lot in life by learning more marketable skills? "No middle class youth in today's economy can afford to buy a house, a car. " Hence the collapse of all real estate and car sales. Wait, no. That's not true at all. Middle-class people buy homes and cars all the time. Even during the world period of the last recession, buying slowed but did not stop. "Almost every one is working two jobs & is totally depressed." Only those who are either young or too dumb to properly economize. "Between the haves & have not." Says the person on a free website from a computer or smartphone. That website, along with many others, providing free educational content on everything from woodworking to plumbing, to computer programming, to speaking Italian. The average person has an embarrassment of riches at their fingertips. If they can't think of anything useful to do with it, then they should be depressed.

[@kev3d]

" Do what Gandhi did" Be incredibly racist toward Africans?

[@topup4563]

So impressed by your thoughts bro .. i totally connect with you.

[@lalitharavindran]

I love Anand’s book Winners Take All. Every sentence is loaded with meaning like you never knew possible.

[@F0rtysxity]

"I think we've had a cancer for a while. In terms of the veneration of wealth. Thinking people are smart just because they are rich. Thinking they know what our schools should be like just because they made money in hedge funds. Thinking that they have insight into how we should fight diseases just because they made a soft drink company." - Anand Giridharadas

[@landoakechi9406]

Genius way of verbalizing the issue with rich worship. Anand is a wordsmith

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

You tote the ignorance of liberal thought. Sad

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

To say the American dream doesn’t happen here is just fucking false.

[@ttystikkrocks1042]

You've absolutely hit the nail on the head here. No one elected these people to public office, yet they are laying claim to every decision in public life- not surprisingly, for their own selfish ends. What could go wrong?!

[@bucketiii7581]

This is actually a point Anand misses. He focuses on the personal and not the systemic. He recognizes that the Georgetown graduate has personal incentives (doing well), and that those run up against social incentives (doing good), but he frames Zuckerberg's failings as personal, neglecting the fact that his personal values and morals are irrelevant because of his institutional role: a CEO. If it wasn't Zuckerberg running a massive company, it'd be another person, and they'd make largely the same decisions in the interest of share price. And if they didn't, they'd be replaced by the board. This isn't a failing of individuals, it's a systemic incentive that forces people to make decisions in the interest of capital and against the decisions of humanity as a whole. This is, in a nutshell, the difference between a liberal critique and a socialist critique. And what's more, Anand's position as a wealthy journalist is what prevents him from seeing the systemic critique - because be benefits from the system. In all probability, he has benefitted from a system that protects property rights and drives up stock prices at the expense of the average person. There's also something to be said for the fact that even as I critique him from a left perspective, I've only considered Americans. The "average person" as I've described is the average AMERICAN. It disregards the majority of people on the planet, who also suffer as a result of the decisions of US companies. And if we play the "democracy" game on the national scale, we are by definition excluding most people on the planet. That is why socialists are internationalists. If you want what's best for humanity, you need to consider all of humanity. In a single term, this viewpoint is described as materialism. The materialist application in politics is called Marxism. Though there are many schools of Marxism and even more critiques thereof, this is the starting point for thinking of politics as a means toward human freedom - and in the context of the ongoing climate disaster, human survival.

[@AJAdkins99]

​@@bucketiii7581 Excellent points. I also wanted to add that in addition to Anand likely benefitting from capitalist systems, INET is a think tank funded by George Soros and thus is also limited to the liberal critique. Soros is well known as a generous benefactor to left-leaning causes, but he is doing so by means of the same system that right wing neoliberal heavyweights use to bring about ideological and political influence. This is why they always stop short of acknowledging capitalism as the problem, because their institution is a product of capitalism.

[@nlpascal]

"The existence of a space race between billionaires is a clear sign that these people are not taxed nearly enough"

[@corieydadon]

Not really

[@Chironex_Fleckeri]

Eh, I'd argue there's a lot of other signs that have existed before that. It was just that technology become "cheap" enough that it didn't require the effort of an entire nation's desire to develop its err... deterrent capabilities. As well as national pride. The original space race was two-pronged. Going into LOO isn't that expensive anymore, but we probably shouldn't waste so much on the enjoyment of the few. 8 people riding to the boundary of the atmosphere to satisfy their own bucket lists..how wasteful is that? Extremely...

[@canyildiz5966]

This Neo feudalism has been my theory for aagesss, its good to hear it from another

[@BasicShapes]

Same here... thought I was the only one...

[@richsackett3423]

@@jayrideau What’s your role?

[@TheNecropolis20]

the white nationalist terrorists are giving us Neo-feudalism its going to be like in a fallout 4 video game,its going to be raiders versus settlers, its going to be the road wars from mad max .. we must stop these white nationalists before they strike again like they did on January 6, 2021.

[@thisaccountkillsfascists3802]

Late stage capitalism is a lot of things but it simply is not feudalism .. it's capitalism. These fancy terms are unnecessary and obscure the real issue which only serves the elite. I heard a lot of "what i call" from this guy. He should read more theory rather than create his own that is less accurate.

[@atrevolutionwiththomaspain68]

Thank the algorithm

[@Furtivo95]

“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he did not exist” - Kaiser Soze

[@oldishandwoke-ish1181]

Edgar Arenas That's neoliberalism.....

[@rinasingh923]

Who actually said it?? Just want to know...

[@fatesrequiem]

Rina Singh it was a quote stolen from Charles Baudelaire.

[@rinasingh923]

@@fatesrequiem thanx

[@terencewallis3562]

As a quote it doesn't mean anything...define 'devil' please. There is no entity of devil in the same way there is no god.

[@timothytikker3834]

I'm also a U if Michigan alumnus (DMA 2013). I saw how in recent years there has been a boom in building "luxury student housing" for UM students, sending a clear message that the school is only for the wealthy, or those who choose to live in unsupportable debt in perpetuity. During this time, I once heard a sermon by the priest in charge of Episcopal student ministries for UM, in which he described how his main work was in helping students meet their most basic needs, especially food. That higher education has become effectively unaffordable in our country to all but the most wealthy is criminal.

[@finddeniro]

Entirely a different Expectation...Elites versus Simple Blessings..Control...

[@positivitysuccessvideos]

Another truly great interview of Anand Giriharadas I highly recommend watching and sharing. Overwhelmingly today in a culture that worships the rich and famous the elites are not the solution, they are the problem. Embrace democratic activism. 1. Don't give up & don't share despair. 2. Do more whatever more is in your case. 3. Get behind bold compassionate reform candidates like Bernie Sanders. 4. Practice solidarity. Their fate is your fate is our fate, is all our struggle. 5. Research how advanced nations of the world outside of the US embrace social democracy & share it with many people.

[@heinzklar8327]

Never buy from Amazon, delete your Facebook account, never go to Starbucks, McDonalds etc. , thats what we can do.

[@nachannachle2706]

I have been doing so for the past 6 years. But then, I've always been anti-Americanist so...

[@williamrbuchanan4153]

Don’t blame people by naming, most are innocents contaminated by a system of greed at the expense controlled brainwashed humans. The Earth is not for anyone to own it is our home, no way out of it but CHANGE. The best educated pro humans could make a New World System, not a Religion, Democracy, or a Capitalistic slavery. They can all be contaminated.Advance can not be made if cost or Kick back, is in use. No cost to do anything no matter how huge or time or Labour. United effort , is only way to proceed.

[@lines1nwax]

No, what we can do is tax the ultra wealthy elites, get money out of politics, unionize the work place, and get back to a New Deal era, democratically-controlled government that regulates the economy meaningfully to reign in the excesses and inherent flaws of global capitalism, especially the financial sector.

[@jasonsanders8091]

It's a good ascetic practice. Your health will improve. We should vote with our wallets. As much as you can buy from small businesses. Main street rather than malls and big box stores.

[@justgivemethetruth]

This guy's book needs to be read by everyone in the world. His book is the most important book written in the last 10 years or more. "Winners Take All" by Anand Giridharadas "The Wrecking Crew: How Conservatives Rule" by Thomas Frank "The End Of The MegaMachine" by Fabian Scheidler These are three very important books to read and understand.

[@Frank-cj3nh]

Michael Hudson been talking about Neofeudalism for years. Literally, Working Paper Number 708 at the Levy Institute form February 2012 "The Road to Debt Deflation, Debt Peonage, and Neofeudalism" by Michael Hudson This isn't to say Anand hasn't done a wonderful job reifying neofeudalism to the present

[@TheFinnmacool]

But we know what you mean. We can talk about it till we're blue in the face or start burning shit up. Oh wait....(Yellow vests). Remember the Tedtalx with Nick Hanauer? The problem is these people are sick and demented. The systems will never change as long as people use them and their primary goal is to deceive. If the systems break in the current condition we should hunt them all down and try them and hang the guilty and treasonous bastards.

[@paulpeterson4216]

I'm no published economist, but I have been talking about the post Reagan economy as a feudal analog well into the last century. An no, I am not claiming to have invented the concept, just that from the perspective of a Medievalist, the parallels are striking.

[@TheFinnmacool]

@@paulpeterson4216 Paul thx for the message. What is becoming evident is what Anand said, they are running out of time. There are millions upon millions of people who have come to the conclusion that you and I and Frank have come to; this system needs to die and anyone who gets in the way as well. This shit is going to get us ALL killed as reckless as it is.

[@DrCruel]

Socialists are the architects of neofeudalism.

[@DrCruel]

@Rank Amateur Either you've never heard of communism as the Bolshevik means of returning to serfdom, or you're just another unscrupulous Left fascist pushing product.

[@johnshafer7214]

I like this man. He speaks well and knows what is going on. Need more people like him.

[@stefangabor5985]

Brilliant! Thank you.

[@TurtleTimeVoiceOvers]

Until we get money completely out of politics, we will live in an oligarchy, empire, kingdom. ~ Bernie Sanders 2020 ~ ❤️❤️❤️

[@guesswho5790]

Don't know about the "empire" part though lol America is collapsing within itself.

[@kidaria1333]

it is a human habbit to greed more for more and people will always fight about it.

[@imarchello]

It's 2021 now though..

[@TurtleTimeVoiceOvers]

@@imarchello You’re very observant.

[@brednbudr2406]

Ironically, he wants to put the entire control of money, to politicians and bureaucrats.

[@karenmorris674]

As long as we as individuals and our institutions and businesses focus exclusively on the bottom line and maximizing profits at the expense of people, we are screwed.

[@brazelabs8451]

yeah Anand needs to be on every news channel and he needs to get all the attention possible. This analysis is seriously correct.

[@isaksand5672]

Fantastic conversation - all future/current university students have experienced the cognitive dissonance that Anand is describing.

[@curvingfyre6810]

Its not just about how much influence the new aristocracy has, thats very surface level. Its about the conditions that the new serfs, us, live under. Gig based work. Lords had a request, something they wanted done, and they would get serfs to do it and reward them for it, whether that was in gig style for service, or in requisition style for products. Until the lords had a job, the serfs used their trades to barter for eachothers trades to subsist. We don't do that much now aside from craigslist, but we will start having to do it more and more over time, and thats what we have seen. Lords payed more than they do now as well. About land owning, serfs didn't, they were tenants. Written into their gig based and long term service contracts was land use. A workshop for craftsmen, a field for farmers, all owned by the lord, but worked for the lord by craftsmen, who were allowed to use them for subsistence in between jobs. How many modern day serfs do you know how can afford a house in this day and age? Of those who still own one, how many had to inherit it instead of buying it? How many sold their previous in order to afford it, which they in turn inherited? More and more people are living by rent, in worse and worse, lets face it, peasant huts, stacked on top of eachother in apartment buildings? More and more of us live that way. I'm on track to be an academic, a real reversal of fortunes from my barely out of poverty birth, but I will NEVER be able to afford a house on today's trajectory, and I'll likely only be able to afford a 1 or 2 room apartment, potentially with a roommate to half the rent even then. Even as an educated renaissance man with a list of academic, craft, art, and generalized life skills as long as my arm, I'll be living as a serf. Thats that, thats a fact of my life. and of everyones unless we roll out the guillotines, figuratively speaking.

[@0zoneTherapyCures]

We end neoliberalism by restoring government's role in the economy. Fiscal policy was rudely shut down 40 years ago when Wall St bankers took control of gov't finance, creating a credit-dependent economy and a HUGE private debt which must be cancelled. The 40-yr. Wall St/capitalist revolt: "The bank strategy continues: “If we can privatize the economy, we can turn the whole public sector into a monopoly. We can treat what used to be the government sector as a financial monopoly. Instead of providing free or subsidized schooling, we can make people pay $50,000 to get a college education, or $50,000 just to get a grade school education if families choose to go to New York private schools. We can turn the roads into toll roads. We can charge people for water, and we can charge for what used to be given for free under the old style of Roosevelt capitalism and social democracy.” This idea that governments should not create money implies that they shouldn’t act like governments. Instead, the de facto government should be Wall Street. Instead of governments allocating resources to help the economy grow, Wall Street should be the allocator of resources - and should starve the government to “save taxpayers” (or at least the wealthy). Tea Party promoters want to starve the government to a point where it can be “drowned in the bathtub.” But if you don’t have a government that can fund itself, then who is going to govern, and on whose terms? The obvious answer is, the class with the money: Wall Street and the corporate sector. They clamor for a balanced budget, saying, “We don’t want the government to fund public infrastructure. We want it to be privatized in a way that will generate profits for the new owners, along with interest for the bondholders and the banks that fund it; and also, management fees. Most of all, the privatized enterprises should generate capital gains for the stockholders as they jack up prices for hitherto public services. You can see how to demoralize a country if you can stop the government from spending money into the economy. That will cause austerity, lower living standards and really put the class war in business. So what Trump is suggesting is to put the class war in business, financially, with an exclamation point." michael-hudson.com/2017/03/why-deficits-hurt-banking-profits/?fbclid=IwAR06awK0L-3z172I_q003EZMVaoAYfqxNg0xqjWXXtFb9mmWMdhOTwqnE4I

[@0zoneTherapyCures]

We need to clean up the fraud in mainstream economics classes. Today's economics students are not taught pluralism (different principles of economic theory), economic history, nor do they discuss money, debt or banks! “...If you look at mainstream economics there are three things you will not find in a mainstream economic model - Banks, Debt, and Money. How anybody can think they can analyze capital while leaving out Banks, Debt and Money is a bit to me like an ornithologist trying to work out how a bird flies whilst ignoring that the bird has wings...” ― Steve Keen “Economics students are forced to spend so much time with this complex calculus so that they can go to work on Wall St. that there’s no room in the course curriculum for the history of economic thought. So all they know about Adam Smith is what they hear on CNN news or other mass media that are a travesty of what these people really said and if you don’t read the history of economic thought, you’d think there’s only one way of looking at the world and that’s the way the mass media promote things and it’s a propagandistic, Orwellian way. The whole economic vocabulary is to cover up what’s really happening and to make people think that the economy is getting richer while the reality is they’re getting poorer and only the top is getting richer and they can only get rich as long as the middle class and the working class don’t realize the scam that’s being pulled off on them.” ~ Michael Hudson

[@0zoneTherapyCures]

God forbid they find out about the corporate coup that ended FDR-style fiscal policy: "The Trilateralist Commission is international...(and)...is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by SEIZING CONTROL OF THE POLITICAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. The Trilateralist Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power - political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical." ~ Barry Goldwater, With No Apologies, 1979 "The “nation-state" as a fundamental unit of man’s organized life has ceased to be the principal creative force: International banks and multinational corporations are acting and planning in terms that are far in advance of the political concepts of the nation-state.” ~ Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages, 1970

[@paulpeartsmith]

Amen.

[@niccolea2086]

Learn MMT I think we definitely need to get the money out, without that nothing can be done. I also think we need to change our voting system ASAP! We need campaign reform and one man one vote, NO electoral College or delegates and super delegates, which basically allow the person with the most votes to be passed over through a very corrupt system. If we start with a movement to reform the actual election process, then maybe we can vote in ppl who actually want to drain the swamp. I think we also need to look at our debate system. There’s too many candidates not getting fair airtime and exposure to gain the support they need to get to 1%, in order to participate in debates. The TWO PARTY ELITES work with Corp news to get their candidates full coverage, while marginalizing other candidates. Together they’re picking who we can choose from. We the ppl have got to become more informed to understand why nothing these two parties do, really changes anything and why these corporations and oligarchs are allowed so much power. We have to unite left and right and say ENOUGH!

[@gigsrouiy8080]

Economic boom bust Cycles are nothing new they've been happening since 200 BC and all as a result of government in collusion with the leads for the purpose of transferring Wolfpack in the hands of a few at the expense of the majority

[@joy4229]

I have been shying away for long from subscribing this channel. After watching several videos, I believe they literally do *new* thinking.

[@PoliticalEconomy101]

Here are some more and better resources on the same subject (Rosenthal, 2015) Philanthropy: The Capitalist Art of Deception (Roelofs, 2003) Foundations and Public Policy: The Mask of Pluralism (Arnove, 1980) Philanthropy and Cultural Imperialism: The Foundations (Barker, 2017) Under the Mask of Philanthropy (Buffett, 2013) The Charitable-Industrial Complex (Fleischer, 2015) Stop Universities From Hoarding Money (Washburn, 2005) University Inc: Corporate Corruption of Higher Ed (Gladwell, 2016) My Little Hundred Million (Emerson, 2018) The Purpose of Capital: Elements of Impact (Stern, 2013) With Charity for All: Why Charities Are Failing (Callahan, 2017) The Givers: Wealth, Power, and Philanthropy (Wagner, 2001) What’s Love Got to Do With It? (Craig, 2014) The Great Charity Scandal: What Really Happens (INCITE!, 2017) The Revolution Will Not Be Funded: Beyond the Non-Profit Complex (Villanueva, 2018) Decolonizing Wealth: Indigenous Wisdom to Heal Divides (Eisenberg, 2017) Time For A New Movement: Clamp Down on ‘The Givers’ (O’Connor, 2017) Philanthropy In A Neoliberal Age I (Katz, 2017) Philanthropy In A Neoliberal Age II (Martens, 2015) Philanthropic Power and Development kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKKYiJp4hJyrmLc

[@Gromp]

Well done ;)

[@infinitesingularity3835]

kingogkingswoodz are you okay bro? You are doing some mental gymnastics there lol fyi the happiest, best quality of life, and life expectancy are all far more positive (better) in democracies with socialistic tendencies. There is a reason why the USA is declining in life expectancy, and why we are one of the few developed countries with this magnitude in wealth that doesn’t want to provide healthcare for all. And they won’t because again, the ruling class rules all.

[@infinitesingularity3835]

Zangief The Red I was gonna ask the same thing, but I had to answer this angry fellow over here^

[@infinitesingularity3835]

kingogkingswoodz also a pure socialist country in the USA would never happen lol lets be honest with ourselves here, you think the ruling class would ever allow that lol

[@jorgerisk4708]

Wow... Thank you... Do you suggest to go in that order? Or doesn't matter?

[@josephhenry9924]

This Anand has nailed most things about today's society. But feudalism was not as brutal as he describes, Medieval workers had a 100 days off a year, and the economic system resembled an ecosystem-, everyone was dependent on each other. From Overlord to peasant. The super rich then were just top of the food chain, but today they are parasites, that are killing its host

[@acemoto6232]

Beautifully put

[@NormieNeko]

He meant serfs. The average peasant had it "okay." This is corporate serfdom.

[@raymundogonzalez6450]

Killing the host is a book ? Right?

[@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2]

You could not leave your village, (only merchant had a permit) and you would never learn to read or write. During famine, 80% to 100% of you food would still leave your village. During wars, you where forced conscript WHITHOUT PAY.

[@bellasinister5743]

@@NormieNeko Serf's never 'Up', in a Feudal system.

[@sergeyvishnyakov4067]

“The problem with always being a conformist is that when you try To change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system It's the system that will eventually change you” immortal technique poverty of philosophy

[@numb3r5ev3n]

I have also heard this period described as a new Gilded Age, or even that the last 100 years was basically an interregnum between Gilded Ages.

[@MOHIMEDIALLC]

What Anand describes is a phenomenon I noticed and fell victim too as well. I studied biomedical engineering in grad school at an ivy, I wanted to start companies and be a good engineer. By the end of my first year, just because of the environment and people around me, out of nowhere I found myself in an adviser's office asking if I should get a 150k ivy league MBA on top of my 110k M.S. to try and work at McKinsey. Thankfully my adviser told me there was no need. Looking back, I have no idea what I was thinking and how I let it "infect" me in the first place.

[@boathemian7694]

I just read his book, Winners Take it All. Explains a lot.

[@mlg4035]

" I think we've had a cancer for a while in terms of the veneration of wealth thinking that people are smart just because they're rich thinking they know what our school should be like just because they made money in hedge funds thinking that they have insight into how we should fight diseases just because they made a soft drink company and cause diseases, and that cancer has been in our society for a while and it was pretty much undetected people weren't critiquing these things..."

[@barkupatree6871]

is anand giridharadas one of the smartest people you've ever seen? so articulate and clear-headed!! all the best to him!

[@dimitriantonopoulos]

I am currently reading “Winners Take All” for a second time. This interview was wonderful.

[@Hee443]

This is the most accurate thing I've seen in awhile.

[@ronaldivey312]

Your information makes me have to let it soak in. My mind has to absorb this at 72.4 years of age. Having to relearn! Thank-you !

[@shaunhall960]

I've been saying this for years. Wonderful that this is being talked about.

[@onewomanslife]

This is a major voice of our times. LISTEN!

[@gtw4546]

"Beware of practicing your piety before others in order to be seen by them; for then you have no reward from your Father in heaven. So whenever you give alms, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be praised by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward."

[@snoopy_peanuts_77]

you wont hear that one much from todays kinda christian

[@sortof3337]

Literally reading has changed my life. I am so glad I read so much. So glad. So glad for Anand's books. :)

[@sorbetelf460]

It’s really interesting hearing an American state what most of the rest of the world has be aware of for decades. I remember back when I was a kid in the 80’s we use to joke about this ridiculous idea that Americans thought about who they were in contrast with the reality that was so damn obvious. And we weren’t somehow politically or economically engaged, it was just what was so easily observed.

[@LittleMacscorner]

Anand Giridharadas is the Social Philosopher or our Generation! I am with you, sir!

[@polakamkamalnath1000]

What a beautiful video!! 😍😍 I know Anand is wonderful here! But I feel like Rob Johnson is a man with formidable wisdom!!

[@natura808]

Did I miss something, was there a time in history without feudalism in some form???

[@Blackpilld]

Good point. It seems like we only have a choice between villains. Capitalism vs communism Billionaires vs Kings and Queens. We get so up in arms when things are wrong, forget how bad the alternatives always end up being. Humans by nature are destructive and in need of being in power of others. It doesn’t matter what system we adopt.

[@Zoie3x8]

@@Blackpilld "It seems like we only have a choice between villains." This is dead-on, imo. morality and authority, are thusfar functionally mutually exclusive; those who seek power (and are powerful), are by definition, not moral, and those who are moral, by definition, are powerless.

[@menooby2653]

@@Zoie3x8 where does this idea come from? Seen it on KZbin comments everywhere but it doesn't seem to be completely true, was making a nuke immoral? Or better to let your enemy make one so you can be clean

[@Zoie3x8]

​@@menooby2653 it is a general observation, an example is 'nice guys finish last'. Basically, those who seek power, usually do so at the expense of others, and no matter what is right or even palatable, except where absolutely necessary. Thus, we currently see (and have always had rumors of) elites having a double life - to the public, they are prim and proper, perfectly polished in every possible way - but away from the camera's and prying eyes, we find that they have absolute and grandiose amorality and immorality, to the point where they can rightly be called Monsters of any other name. We can even see it on our streets, to a degree; cops do whatever they can, to make their quota, make their arrests, process you into the injustice system, and all else be damned. Bully cops misbehave, citizens die or are falsely imprisoned for long spans of time, and rather than the bully cops being prosecuted for their crimes, the police close ranks, and at best, the thin blue line gives them a tap on the wrist and shuffles them off to some other PD. At worst, these bad apple police officers actually get pay raises and commendations.

[@SharonFelix]

@@Blackpilld This is classic misinformation. That it's capitalism against communism. What about democratic socialism or social democracy where rich just pay their share of tax and states sponsor socialist and social security schemes that helps maintain decent standards of living to all people while the corporations can do their work! Comparing the worst on right to worst on left and saying it ain't better, is the simplest way the people who are comfortable/ benefitted by the status quo can resist change!

[@dinnerwithfranklin2451]

Great interview, thanks

[@strictlyyoutube6881]

This is amazing, I literally worked with a girl exactly like the protagonist of the book. She now works for a charity, and I think it was because capitalism puked her out.

[@carlodave9]

Blake nailed the point more efficiently, well over 200 years ago : "Pity would be no more, If we did not make somebody Poor: And Mercy no more could be, If all were as happy as we;"

[@wildtwindad]

Been calling modern state of affairs neo-fuedal for over ten years. More people catching on to this every day!

[@austenhead5303]

Yep. As I too have been saying since I woke up to the fact years ago: We're serfs with smartphones. Mortgages and loans and wage slavery and mass incarceration and a democracy that isn't remotely democratic... it isn't even arguable.

[@polvotierno]

This interview is sooooooo intelligent while reflecting true wisdom.

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

Not really as Lobbying by Corporations or whatever IS what he speaks of.

[@polvotierno]

@@HighSpeedNoDrag The world is not sustainable in its present economic form. Pandemics are a sign of this. Economic growth is not sustainable ad infinitum. There comes a time when economies must mature and then use resources sustainably/cleanly and ultimately share the wealth of production among society, not just a few. When the majority are left wanting, the economy will not be sustainable on many levels.

[@karadianiko1442]

I like how he points out the truth, in that the American dream no longer happens on US soil for those born and raised in it.

[@snoopy_peanuts_77]

that was always a myth to some degree...that little howdy doodie fantasy is only applied to 1950s white america

[@donaldjmccann]

Some contrary statements were made in this interview. Things like "Your analysis has made us all realise..." The fact is, the people who need to watch and understand this video are watching reality TV or Fox news, and don't have the understanding required to know what you two are talking about when it comes to competing models. Anyone can vote without an understanding of how government works, or what policies may influence their personal circumstances. There are enough "rubes" in every country that can be convinced to vote in complete contradiction to their own interests, that the rich will always win. I weep for the world.

[@lordblazer]

Thank God I chose to pursue a PhD in the social and political sciences.

[@davidroberts1689]

Don't weep for yourself yet, there is a movement coming on that will wipe the rich out of politics because the majority will see progressives as reasonable because of their policies.

[@harrygibus]

I used to despise Chomsky (20 years ago) for his grandiose verbiage because he wasn't connecting with the people who needed to hear him (the average American). It does seem like he has, in recent years, adjusted his wording towards a more populist message. I hope more younger people can consider that PR jobs that seek to convey populist messages in an average lexicon are just as important as the ones that will make them money.

[@rake483]

So true! Politicans tell us we need to cut social programs to reduce spending, but at the same time they give tax cuts to the rich and they can do it because there are still a lot of people who believe in trickle-down economics. They vote against their interest again and again and again.

[@zeroceiling]

Donald McCann ..I would only add that those who watch CNN, MSN and all the alphabet networks are equally blind to the issues raised here.

[@insurrectusresistus]

Excellent talk. I have often thought that what we are seeing is a neo-feudalism wrapped in democracy. Rule by the one (few) over many. #oligarchicalcapitalism in some ways is how I see it these days. Logical discussion ++ Anand Giridharadas speaks in such a common sense way. No redundant speech. No divisive speech. Logic is so underappreciated in these times

[@Asatru55]

I mean.. It's a good message but it is hardly 'new economic thinking'. This 'new feudalism' is simply capitalism. We knew all of this since the 19th century. And we could solve all of these problems too if we were willing to solve the issues by the root: Capitalism.

[@joeavreg2254]

Is that why you can actually see those figures online and that's a lie? And how only Dems have refused Corporate money? Google is right their friend, you can check this shit yourself but you choose not to cause the lie lets you feel like you aren't a rube who voted for the GOP.

[@nehuen9333]

@kingogkingswoodz crony capitalism is the natural conclusion of clasical capitalism,deny that and you deny the free market

[@nehuen9333]

@kingogkingswoodz you got the answer right in the text that you wrote,read it slowly and see why free market will always end up in crony capitalism

[@Dan16673]

right, because other systems have been proven so well through the years, lol. gtfoh

[@DrCruel]

Socialism is the most virulent form of crony capitalism. It's not a solution to anything - except as an excuse for a small socialist gang to usurp power illegally, then rob and enrich themselves by looting a nation's economy.

[@DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1]

I've just read Engels' ''The Condition of the Working Class in England'' for the gazillionth time and again, even though it was written in 1845, remains just as true in 2020 as it did over 150 years ago.

[@dorianphilotheates3769]

I was as guilty of worshipping the super-rich as anyone: in 1st grade, there was this kid, Xenophon, who always got the big fancy chocolate bars - the ones with the whole roasted almonds or hazelnuts - for his schoolyard snack; most of the rest of us got the plain variety as a very occasional treat, and when anyone did get any special goodies, we all shared - except Xenophon...well, we all wanted to be chums with him in case he ever decided to give us a bite of his precious chocolate, but he was a greedy little bugger, and he never did share. I was five, and from that moment on, I resolved to never again envy or “worship” the rich and their chocolates... 🍫

[@dorianmachia3112]

KZbin algorithms coming in HOTT with this one

[@markhartseil8170]

Money has an image of need for trade, while being the tool for control.

[@dirkscott4966]

Anand this is so true and so amazing. Thank you. I have been wondering about what I am seeing. Thanks for the clarification

[@olzt100]

The first capitalism flaw is the assumption that everyone is a equal worker and asset for another. The idea of worker and employer is artificially created.

[@fayetoliver562]

"Trump is the moment we realize we have cancer" A.G.

[@whysoserious8666]

Let’s hope it’s not stage 4 already

[@FloridaFreak]

Snappingturtle 267 mr snapping turtle, I’m sorry you feel that way :(. I don’t want “socialism” full blown either but the system we have now is not sustainable long term.

[@sabin97]

@Snappingturtle 267 no. democrat policies for 2020 arent the only thing that is unsustainable. having the overwhelming majority of all new wealth be for the super rich is unsustainable. specially when it's the poor who create all of the wealth.

[@imarchello]

@@FloridaFreak How about capitalist socialism? A mixed system where Capitalism is controlled and kept in check with Socialist policies. Anti-trust/ anti-monopoly laws, strong unions, universal healthcare and education, strong social safety nets. Pure unregulated capitalism results in a dog eats dog world, where one company or person eventually owns everything. Government policies are what bring some balance and prevent this reality from happening in real life.

[@DennisRay99]

Actually it was Biden, but close enough

[@joshgreen8917]

I've been saying this for years, it's nice to see it reflected, especially by such a great thinker

[@jameswalsh3112]

When we move to have democracy in the workplace, we can then build a movement to have democracy in the world. The un-democratic employment arena is dominated by a corporate/lobbiest/government cartel that is in full control of the rule/law making apparatus of the world. Having a colllective place at the table is the only way labor (this is most of us my friends) can ever influence policy.

[@nadiaalexan6442]

I was surprised by the millions of people who look up to Elon Musk and think it's a good idea for him to own Twitter. Some people love their chains!

[@kwame717]

Anand is one of the most brilliant minds on earth today. It’s beautiful to see there is something worthwhile beside the Noam Chomsky’s, Bernie Sanders and MLK’s to articulate these views spot on!

[@WDeeGee1]

Marxism has always resulted in tyranny; has always failed to deliver communism--but at what cost! So clearly, alternative solutions needs to be explored.

[@amberleeannalee1999]

Last year I heard the term neo feudalism from a fellow The young Turks fan and I am so glad I did. This makes total sense. I’ve attempted to change many minds with this information. This video is an excellent source to share. Blessed be

[@WeedTacos]

This dude needs to write all of Bernie Sanders 2020 presidential campaign speeches

[@fun_ghoul]

Bernie Sanders won't change a fucking thing.

[@thewolf14]

Sanders will win.

[@fun_ghoul]

@@thewolf14 Sanders won't win, and even if he did, it wouldn't help. Social democracy is still capitalism.

[@angelicawesterhoff5760]

Carl Page, this dude would be ideal to line up with Tulsi Gabbard. Sanders doesn't really speak up against wars, as far as I can see.

[@fun_ghoul]

@@angelicawesterhoff5760 Tulsi Gabbard...the one who raises money for the Butcher of Gujarat? Fuck her, and fuck you.

[@antunesiaharris679]

Great Listen. I basically clicked on because I liked Anands hair. Thanks! Universe.

[@donnagaffney6467]

While trying to be so cerebral on the topic, you miss the obvious point that we now live in a Fascist society. One where the government exists to serve the interests of the corporations as opposed to the interests of the people! this is common knowledge at this point....smh

[@lordblazer]

Um. I wouldn't say fascists. I think they're hitting the nail on the head. More of a neo-feudal system being developed. Congress still have power and so does our judiciary.

[@pambennett8967]

lordblazer definitely fascists .. killing millions 22 Million in Yemen as we speak .. persecuting millions of homeless and poor here, stealing their tents and blankets and killing them of exposure and neglect And isolation ..you’re a fool if you think otherwise

[@robinhoodOO7]

@@pambennett8967: Yes, neo-feudalism does, in fact, have inherently fascist characteristics. But, just saying it's fascist leaves out a lot of the nuances that are covered under a neo-feudalistic definition.

[@fun_ghoul]

You're a fucking dupe, Donna. The United States of America has been the world leader in fascism since its inception. You have a national anthem whose original version glorifies lynching Black slaves, like the ones so many presidents owned. Ford built Hitler's tanks, and DuPont made his bombs go boom. Barack Obomber turned Libya, a thriving socialist nation, into rubble while paying banks and GM to stay open...but it's only fascism _now?_ 🤔

[@michaelhorn4008]

That's like Maga's calling liberals socialists....Fascists care about the State. Our modern plutocrats care solely for the Dollar$$$

[@IndiaAniya25]

I have been saying that we have socially inept people runningnour country since I was 18 years old and took Political Science. You have people who have no idea about real life outside of their wealth and privilege tell people who have less than what they are doing wrong and have the nerve to want to hold us accountable but not themselves

[@thedudegrowsfood284]

Preach!

[@sukritrajesh5723]

Yeah sure! /s

[@sharifbenyisrael6493]

He said "The American dream is happening in other countries except for in America " ...bars!!!

[@TahaAlZadjali]

Agreed, people (rich or poor) should stop pretending the have a bachelor degree or a Masters degree in every aspect of life. If it's a problem to educate the masses, then it's a bigger problem to not educate them.

[@chizick14]

"What kind of anti-disease programs we should have" perfectly timed statement

[@marymccluer1630]

Our government works very well for billionaires. They can avoid paying federal tax if they don't sell their stocks, and they can avoid selling stocks by borrowing against them. Yet through PACS and lobbyists, they exert outsized influence over what bills get presented and voted on by Congress and state legislatures. Billionaires can generously pledge to give all their wealth to charity, then hide their wealth in a "charitable" LLC that exclusively pays them. Meanwhile wage earners have to pay federal income tax. Voters who live in highly gerrymandered districts have little political clout. Most voters feel democracy is failing us. The scary question is what might replace it.

[@th3b0yg]

He keeps referring to the present year as "that period". He's very optimistic that his book will be read by people many years from now.

[@patrickwilliams7078]

I loved how this discussion made the connection between living in this neo-feudalism and the possibilty of a mid life crisis later on in the young. Believe you me this is so true. You try and opt out of the system and you will see how that system has enslaved you and how it will punish you for attempting to do such a thing.

[@3rodox]

Wow. I thought this interview was made today. Truer now than ever before.

[@paolomartini150]

I have been saying this for years.

[@zakleclaire1858]

This is gona sound racist but when a person of Indian descent makes the comment that America is a caste system we should probably believe him. He may have some cultural understanding of caste systems and why their bad.

[@audobone]

As an Indian, I'm just popping in to say that the Indian caste system and an economic caste system cannot be compared. They use the same word, sure, but their principles are different. The Indian caste system doesn't have an economic basis; it was only loosely structured around occupations and clans.

[@burbclavefutur1527]

​@@audobone I think both countries have marginalized certain ethnic groups.

[@burbclavefutur1527]

@@audobone But also India is a patchwork of various cultures and religions and is more like Europe than the US in that regard.

[@audobone]

@@burbclavefutur1527 That is very true. Casteism - if we were insistent on comparing it with something - has more in common with racism. OP was talking about economic castes, but Indian castes don't have an economic basis. At least, not at their source. Economic castes in India overlap with Hindu castes due to the discrimination that people deemed of a "lower caste" have historically faced. Economic castes formed under capitalism are quite different in that they have an even wider set of variables working than just race or ethnicity.

[@Imozart0341I]

Zak LeClaire He’s of Indian descent but he 100% American

[@nedsantos1415]

I love this man and his work sooo much!!!!!

[@ShirahDedman]

"...that you can have your cake and give it back too" 🤣

[@petarz9029]

technically you can, just... 💩

[@robertchiarizia9463]

“When Corporations Rule the World”, by Albert Gore Everyone should read it from cover to cover. It literally gives the playbook for the new Fuedalism

[@Maliceless100]

by Al Gore?

[@robertchiarizia9463]

@@Maliceless100 yeah, he was talking about this 25 years ago and longer.

[@83j049733rfe4]

... I've been saying this for nearly a year, maybe more, but I thought I was alone. This man articulated it before I did, and I thought I was maybe crazy....

[@dalegribble4308]

South Asian gorge Clooney is right. Except he went a little heavy on the chrome makeup

[@rutvikrs]

Bingo, I almost forgot how pertinent makeup was to his pitch. Thanks for reminding all of us.

[@14sakuya26]

Typical Russian tbg

[@THT01]

Tis always been. ‘Tis always always will be. “

[@persona5hacked574]

Families of targets... Just for the entertainment.

[@havenbastion]

the skills required to amass great wealth are entirely different than the skills required to spend wealth wisely

[@ik-uv8bo]

Andrew Yang 2020!

[@AdamBechtol]

😁

[@keigabun2210]

Modern day robber barons. History feels cyclical

[@thedudegrowsfood284]

the Gilded Age 2.0

[@Archone666]

I'd like to point something out: the aristocrats of the previous eras actually DID do things to help people. They knew they needed to justify their wealth and privilege; they TOOK CARE of their people. A feudal lord might have his serfs laboring in the fields, but he wouldn't throw them out when they were too old or sick to work. That's a huge difference from the corporate "lords" of today.

[@IsoMorphix]

Was stoked at first, but then dude got weird and super personally slighted. Also his claims are weird. Zuckerberg as the only CEO who has ever tipped a federal election? Does he know how the Democratic party functioned in the 1890s-1920s? University education also doesnt really seem to be helping *anything*, right? Isnt that the general vision? More and more expensive degrees for ever more obsolete science and training? Like otherwise dude's ideas are pretty compelling in abstract: new feudalism? For sure! But a recent phenomenon? Good fuckin luck. This is the course of empire. Wherever power is concentrated in the hands of "rulers" for too long, this is the net outcome. Then it explodes and starts again with new gods and new faces. Maybe we should be examining *that*, instead of trying to salvage what was already a flawed project. Let America die its implosive death. The things it got right can live on.

[@given-namesurname5740]

How'd the Democratic function for those 30 years?

[@lordblazer]

Really it's because you missed the point.

[@IsoMorphix]

@@given-namesurname5740 I made a bad argument from the seat of my pants there. Let me reformulated my point. In the 1800s, there were no campaign finance laws, and since about the presidency of Andrew Jackson, government was effectively for sale to the highest bidder. By the 1890s, the parties took this to extremes. The Democratic was notorious for effectively behaving like the Mafia in larger cities. Again there was no campaign finance law, and money openly sloshed around the House and the Senate. The strongest actor with the most financial influence, or the willingness to apply force (it was a congressman who assassinated Grover Cleveland) got things done. The claim that Mark Zuckerberg is the first CEO to massively influence an election is simply blind to history, and misses the larger issue of govermental involvement in the free market. They should either be entirely separate forces or one and the same.