The New Helldivers 2 Weapons: A New Meta?

New weapons have become available to us on the galactic war... But are they any good? Let's talk about the LAS-16 Sickle, Arc-12 Blitzer and SG-8P Punisher Plasma!
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[@Star-ns9rp]

The real meta is to have fun

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Couldn't agree more - there will always be the most effective weapon per say, but I am also a big fan of players doing as they wish!

[@AC-hj9tv]

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[@torinslik6577]

It's so funny. A day before the Cutting Edge Warbond released, I was saying to my buddies as we were playing "Man, the Scythe is cool, but I really wish I had a more assault rifle kind of energy weapon". And then ... it came to me on a silver platter. XD Such a good weapon the Sickle is. :P

[@CAMIKAZE78]

We appreciate your efforts in making this thing appear for us :P It is a really amazing weapon, not going to lie!

[@II-tv1fc]

I wish more of the primary weapons felt like the Sickle...where you just go "this is nice, I like this" . Breaker Shotgun, Sten-gun SMG, and the Machine Pistol are the only other weapons I get that feeling with.

[@zach942]

The plasma punisher + a stalwart, supply pack, 500kg and a railcannon or EATS is a very versatile build for handling everything in my opinion, well for terminids at least

[@habibi8964]

Stalwart is booty cheeks at 7+ but hey if it works for you god speed

[@manvir6170]

I used that last night. Not good for bots at least.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Might need to give this build a crack! Looks like a lot of fun to be honest :D

[@kingcaesar3693]

@@manvir6170 yeah it's odd. The bots don't seem to care about a high voltage weapon, despite everything saying it would be better for them vs the lasers for bugs.

[@zach942]

@@CAMIKAZE78 forgot to mention 500kg is good too but you definitely need the ship module upgrade so u get two uses per rearm

[@daryback7103]

The Blitzer, as I see it, it's amazing for Solo runs. A lightning arc shotgun as main weapon?? Damn, give me two!! Now, more serious, I deem it nice for Solo. With that basically you have the supply+grenade launcher combo in one weapon. So, air strike for nest, railgun/autocannon as secondary for big guys, 500kg/railgun strike for the same reason, and shield/laser drone for robots or bugs. Laser drone is awesome for additional horde control against those pest. If you don't like it, use shield.

[@guster2244]

I used to watch your PlanetSide content, happy to see you making videos for this glorious game!

[@zach942]

They need to fix the blitzers propensity to completely miss or tickle hunters up in your face it would be a banger for me if it didnt fumble at point blank range

[@berserkerpride]

Its always focus firing a single scavenger. And it fires so slow that you spend more time running than shooting.

[@notseth3500]

Just a surviving problem of the arc thrower mechanics involving shoddy hit registration. A bit disappointing, but I hope it gets patched soon enough.

[@LCInfantry]

It’s because of the view in third person with cross hairs when the bullet/arc comes out of the gun from the positioning of the character model. Switch to first person to hit your close range targets

[@argusvylke6194]

can't believe I randomly dropped in a pug with ya, ggs and glad to see ya helldiving

[@gottinrod]

The lighting shotgun is almost good. It should have a magazine size and overheat mechanic to allow at least a few shots consecutively. That would make it shine.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Yeah that would certainly give it a bit more flexibility I think! Like the idea mate!

[@bouncycowgirl]

You're covering Helldivers now?! Great!

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Yeah most certainly my friend!

[@bouncycowgirl]

@@CAMIKAZE78 Dont worry about people fussing at you for playing how you wanna. Meta is needed at the highest levels. Happy to hear youre making videos on my newest obsession!

[@Swaggmire215]

The sickle is absolutely a menace especially on cold planets

[@robertarmstrong2323]

Sickle is only primary I use

[@lunaticmickful]

I really believe the difference in weapons we get is based on which enemies we encounter.

[@Burtgummerx7]

I wish the punisher plasma had a tad more fire rate and faster ballistics maybe a tad more damage. But the scorcher is basically same thing right? Just rifle?

[@soldierhobbes1182]

No. Scorcher has a much smaller AoE and still feels like you’re using a rifle. Plasma shotty functions more like a pump-action grenade launcher.

[@kswiss4658]

People are really undwrestimating the punisher plasma and the arc blitzer.

[@LCInfantry]

It’s videos like these that turn people away from them experimenting or revisiting guns in a new light/ perspective/ tactic. I honestly love all three guns. Just know what you actually can’t shoot at, and bring an appropriate support weapon or strats to complement your set up or the teams set up.

[@Blit_Wizbok]

if i never see the world meta again i'll be ecstatic

[@stitchperlo9639]

rip the knight smg

[@Kenjixkun]

hm one question my buddy and I are just the two of us playing Helldivers 2 and even at difficulty level 4 we are overrun by little bugs like the hunters and then there are also the chargers that we have to take care of do you have a few tips on how not to get overrun? For example i use the punisher, redeemer combo + 110mm rocket pods, orbital airburst strike, flamethrower and sometimes the EAT or the guard dog rover combo but we often have the problem with the guard dog that it kills me or my buddy unfortunately we have only been able to buy the first ship module in each category so far because as I said we are having difficulties with difficulty level 4 =/ Edit: i am absolutely positively surprised at how many good and friendly answers i received from all of you many thanks to everyone who replied to my comment you guys are awesome =)

[@burstingpixelz7971]

So I will say, having another couple teammates genuinely makes a huge difference. More ordinance, more lives, more guns and grenades. Take randoms if you need to. But also, I would replace orbital airburst with the orbital laser or orbital rail cannon. They’re powerful for chargers and later larger targets

[@duckadence]

You can kill chargers with a single EAT shot to the head. Designate roles so one person takes care of chargers and other armored targets and the other clears the small bugs.

[@ironviper72]

the spawn rate for enemies specifically on bugs level 4 seems to be a bit scuffed right now. my friends and i have unlocked everything and we have a harder time dealing with bugs level 4 vs bots level 7 or even bugs level 5. So if you haven't unlocked level 5 yet, I'd suggest going down to level 3 to farm some more requisites to unlock the rest. That being said, I'd drop the 110mm rocket pods, as they are better against the bots than the bugs. Air-burst is great, just make sure to stand back a little further even if you think you are far enough. Flamethrower is great too but if the problem is mainly the hunters, the stalwart works better on them. And, my own personal opinion, which is probably unpopular, is that the regular guard dog is better than the rover. less likely it'll kill you. I know I'm not Cami but hopefully these suggestions help.

[@daemoniaque6640]

Having at least one guy with EAT/Recoiless/Railgun to be able to take care of chargers seems kinda important, as it has been said before. Don't get overexcited with EAT/Recoiless, wait for the charger to run head on towards you and line up the shot on his head, they can take quite a bit more shots if you miss it. Stalwart will melt through small stuff as long as you can keep the range advantage, at close range the fact that it's an LMG will cause issues. I've also had successes with the basic Eagle Strafing Run (the gun one), it's quick to call in and can clear out a bunch of critters quite nicely. You could also consider the gas strike, works well when you toss it on top of the breach.

[@Kenjixkun]

@@daemoniaque6640 and @ironviper72 you both recommend the Stalwart to me but why that and not the machine gun?

[@gangstersnow]

This is the first helldivers 2 video I have seen today that didnt have atleast 70% dislikes on it. Can't tell if the community is awful, or the creators

[@SamDelgado-qu1rt]

let goooooooooooooooo

[@saretsarerrah6589]

Ick, meta. Edit: Not negative.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Metas will always exist regardless of how well you balance things. There will always be a Most Effective Tactic Available, and it is something that everyone needs to come to live with. However, in saying that, that shouldn't subtract from others having fun and enjoying their own whacky builds and combos.

[@saretsarerrah6589]

@@CAMIKAZE78 I didn't mean this to be negative, I just really don't want this game to become unbalanced.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

@@saretsarerrah6589 That's fair mate - it came across as slightly negative at first but thanks for clarifying. I think as long as there is weapons with unique roles and quirks while also getting QOL/balance updates to address any pain points, there will always be room for different options out there.

[@saretsarerrah6589]

@@CAMIKAZE78 That's what I really care about too, being able to play your own playstyle.

[@williamrobinson6055]

I've been using this weapon a lot so let me summarise my experience and correct a few rumers. It does not try to arc towards the head or weak spots, it goes straight for the centre of mass and the damage is SPLIT between the arcs. Biggest upside? The stun, on par with the slugger shotgun it can stun pretty much everything including spewers. Biggest downside? It's NOT the dps or the reload, it's the nature of the arcs. You CAN NOT reliably hit certain weak spots. It arcs towards the centre of mass meaning bugs are okay but trying to take a bit off a strider is infuriating. As it stands at 20.3.24 it's a gimmicky choice against bugs but beaten by the slugger in every metric. Bots are unbelievably bad.

[@LCInfantry]

I like the run and shoot, run and shoot, jump and shoot. But it’s for the little guys though.

[@Verbose_Mode]

My thoughts on the buffs/nerfs for the Warbond: Sickle - Needs a slight nerf, as right now it's just a better Liberator. I think it should overheat a lot easier, like 15-20 shots, so the tradeoff between a Sickle and Liberator is different kinds of reliability (limited ammo, but longer bursts vs potentially infinite ammo and shorter bursts) Punisher P. - Needs WAY more damage, on par with the regular pump shotty... maybe with a smaller AoE? It's harder to hit shots with, it should kill what it hits. Blitzer - I think it should chain once per arc. It's not great against really big things, but let it MASSACRE little ones. Dagger - Severely underpowered because of a long ttk. Trade damage for faster overheat, but make it have the same DPS as the rifle. If it can kill, you can use it to "replace" a primary when taking something specialized like the plasma weapons and open up more roles.

[@LCInfantry]

Allow us to run with dagger while shooting it. Idk. It’s. Dagger, but doesn’t really stab well. Maybe if we use it while attacking from behind… Dude, I already love the plasma punisher. If they buffed it… omg. Same thing happened with the flamethrower… nobody knew how to use it before it got buffed, but I did… It was really good before the buff, but everyone just shoots in third person, hitting the ground or feet, or not focusing shooting the charger’s legs.

[@belliott538]

I’m looking forward to the Lever Action… I hope it is reminiscent of the Ruger/Savage 1895 in 45-70… 500 grains of Screaming Full Jacketed Hollow Point… Space Cowboy!

[@acaivanovic4997]

Make some Batltebit remastered videos

[@jakewebb7995]

Battle bit is kinda trash.

[@Cifer77]

@@jakewebb7995 I heard jakewebb7995 is kinda trash

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Some BattleBit content is coming, it's just been a bit slow lately.

[@Cifer77]

I know you gotta cover what's popular, but GOD I HATE "META"! Lets just all use the exact same weaponry & gear because someone told us it's the best. It's a real treat when people recognize weapons are tools, and different tools excel at different jobs. If you just want to remove all thought from the process, and just use whatever is the best "jack of all trades" in every scenario, dumbing down the gameplay, GO META.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

A "meta" will always exist - it's quite simple. Ultimately, no matter how much time you spend balancing - there will be a weapon that by pure design WILL be the best for high end. Simple as that. Doesn't detract from everyone having fun with their own kit, but there will always be a collection of weapons that are the most efficient at dealing with the majority of enemies in the game quickly. The sooner you expect that, the faster you can learn with being okay in enjoying your gear not because its the best, but because you have fun with it.

[@kingcaesar3693]

I wouldn't even say these are metas. I do better with the Punisher/Slugger for the jobs primaries are meant for. The Sickle is neat, but why use it over the regular AR? it overheats on higher difficulties to point you're "reloading" like usual anyhow, the Blitzer is odd and buggy, sometimes hitting things a mile away other times unable to hit a hunter 2 feet from me, and the Punisher Plasma has one obvious flaw: Mags instead of loading each shell one by one.

[@LCInfantry]

Choose weapons that complement the playstyle you will exploit. Choose weapons that are perform stronger against the weak areas for your support weapon. Example: Manually clustering the enemies together is good with aoe weapons… so opinions differ between tactics, player movement, weapon selection and squad needs.

[@GP29770]

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[@magusi9029]

Do I need to reiterate where you can shove your Meta? Edit: That being said, I appreciate the deeper look into the weapons.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

A Meta will always exist, it is just the nature of players who look for the most effective option... finding the most effective option. Doesn't mean that everyone can't have fun with their own kits and combinations, but the Meta will always exist no matter how well you balance things.

[@LCInfantry]

@@CAMIKAZE78 Most effective options in your narrow playstyle… got it.

[@SamDelgado-qu1rt]

I'm first

[@expadarkgamer1935]

Stop spamming your self promotions, youre not that guy

[@ZIOM5000]

Oh my god, stop with the metas.

[@LCInfantry]

It’s for his eco chamber

[@fredericoeusebio9770]

These videos are either comedy or a disservice to our comunity... the sicle is a horrible weapon that will leave u hanging with enemies in your face mean while the punisher plasma will service heavier enemies with verry few shots

[@CAMIKAZE78]

To say the sickle is a horrible weapon is just out of pocket brother, agree to disagree I guess.