The New Suzuki GSX-8S is LAME

[@c0dy1287]

Haha who else is waiting for the "I was wrong I love this bike video!" They probably already had it on the schedule as they were making this video lol

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

I think he’ll probably like how it rides, he’s just sick of the P twin bikes that coming out in spades. The SV was unique with its V twin, the new one is just generic. That being said I’d definitely ride it lol

[@c0dy1287]

@@sleeper.simulant7327 Thing is I grew up around motorcycled and old timers, and it doesn't seem like too long ago the beloved sv650 was just a soulless Japanese knock off of the Ducati monster, the poor man's monster. And he mentions UJMs which is funny because now there are plenty of people that remember those bikes fondly, but they were just another standard coming out back in the day. Growing up around it though personally I feel it's about what you do with the bikes that make them interesting. I'd be stoked to hear someone tell me about how they went halfway across the country on a z400 versus some guy talk about how much character their garage queen bike they ride 5 times a year has. 🏍️

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

@@c0dy1287 I’ve never heard the SV called soulless lol, it actually outperformed the monster when it dropped, for a fraction of the price to, and still had tons of character. Of course Ducati couldn’t have that, and not long after the SV dropped the monster vastly outperformed the Suzuki. This new bike I’m sure will be just fine, handle decent, have a decent power band, and sound good with an exhaust. I also don’t mind the looks for a more transformer styled bike, I think it looks a little cleaner then any of the MT bikes. Yamaha makes up for that with the XSR bikes though…

[@c0dy1287]

@@sleeper.simulant7327 Could have been some euro snobbery going on. I was excited back when the mt07 was first coming out and I still got magazines, I was super stoked but sitting on one just didn't feel right for me, hoping the Suzuki will give me what I want and handle better too. I have 4 cyl 600 but my first bike was an 80s Honda twin and man I did more on that bike than anything else since.

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

@@c0dy1287 mine was a 1989 VFR750F, then a UJM 1977 Honda CB550K, and then after a 10 year hiatus I bought a 2022 Benelli Leoncino Trail 500 to get back into riding. Trading it next spring for something bigger and faster

[@Rocco-tb9ih]

Personally, I don't care about the manufacturer politics. All I know is, this bike looks epic, the engine size is perfect for me and it comes with all the features I could ever want for my second bike

[@disturb3d46]

What is your main bike?

[@leeengelsman1855]

Yes I think the handling would be great and due to the electronics very civilized no nasties.

[@brunodebrandt1037]

Agreed

[@bonse1]

This is the exact reason they're making it. It's absolutely bob-on for "my first proper bike".

[@saulgutierrez1705]

Based comment

[@bbevis2357]

I actually think the new GSX 8S makes a lot of sense as an 'MT07 killer.' If Suzuki can keep it new-rider friendly enough but still have the fun-factor of the MT07 that experienced riders enjoy, I think it will be very successful. The new Vstrom 800 on the other hand is somewhat of a disappointment.

[@myfren90]

20kg heavier than Mt 07

[@conViction0000]

There is Trident 660...

[@danmacmillan88]

it has so much potential, but the damn thing is so heavy which sucks

[@Saint_Arod]

@@jimnagel5611WHY ARE YOU YELLING AHHHH

[@stimpyman007]

@@jimnagel5611 it’s also has more torq than the mt07 , I’m really into this Suzuki . I had a mt09 for 8 years and I want to downsize for more fun on the public road . And I think this will be the bike

[@gsxraiders]

You don't know what you're talking about. P-Twin makes it a lot easier to do your own maintenance, such as spark plugs and valve timing. I've been looking forward to something larger than an MT07. Good timing from Suzuki to bring on a higher grunt and lower rev engine, with 180 rear, radial calipers, and sporty swingarm adjusters. Something that I would not be guilty about racking up a ton of backroad miles while popping dank wheelies. The TFT dash and QS are a plus. This will allow me to reserve the life on my GSXR.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

You get this. Yammie doesn't. I think this bike is a good step up in suspension, brakes, capability, and probably one of the best 270° parallel twin engines so far based on what I know about the balance shafts and all the other numbers. It's probably going to sound burly and snarly with a pipe, it's probably going to bolt out of corners like no MT-07 or SV does. It's probably going to feel like a Duke 790 with much less vibration. It's got radial brakes, USD forks, up/down QS, big TFT, larger physical dimensions for us bigger 6-foot plus riders.

[@atlasatlantis8447]

Suzuki should take the Hayabusa engine, and make a cruiser from it.

[@johnsmith2179]

Why do i want to see this

[@timothyhardrick146]

The Busavard? The Boulebusa?

[@stevec6427]

Or a lightweight track car. Everyone else puts Hayabusa motors in light weight race cars, maybe Suzuki should do an official one. As a side note, I once crashed a Busa engined Radical track car on the fastest bend at Castle Coombe circuit in England

[@tordferguson834]

They definitely did make a naked out of the Hayabusa in the form of the B-King, which was probably a little bit ahead of its time.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

You might take a look at the Kawasaki Concours 14.

[@kramerguitars204]

I see your point, it is kinda boring to see all the companies just crank out p-twins. But it’s also exactly what we asked for. It’s a brand new frame with a brand new 270 crank twin. On paper that combo isn’t that special, but I do have high hopes for this bike

[@Jonathan-L]

I reckon Yoshimura will offer a cam for this bike for those who want more power.

[@thedandy6765]

@@Jonathan-L they do and just unlocking it will push it towards 100hp with crank over 100hp and its a light bike i tried it today and fuck is it a blast

[@JinZuS]

@@thedandy6765 it's not a light bike it weighs 20 kg more than the mt-07

[@thedandy6765]

@@JinZuS still quite a light bike honestly then again to me most bikes are light since im 6'3 280lb and i gym 3 times a week so many bikes are quite light

[@ruiner88]

I like the GSX-8S look over the MT-07, and if it actually comes with a little more power and a 270 crank, I'd definitely pull the trigger on that when it comes out. I have too many friends with MT-07s as it is, so I don't want to add to that pile.

[@CosminCraiova]

you can always get the MT 09 SP....

[@JinZuS]

that extra power comes with an extra 20 kg ... so it's irrelevent tbh

[@captainplanet43]

I think it's a step in the right direction. Especially if they get the weight down thanks to the p twin compared to the v-twin while keeping the v-twin sound thanks to the 270 crank.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Yep. One less head, two less cams, one less chain tensioner system, much less complex cooling, throttle linkage, exhaust plumbing. Easier casings to cast. Less crotch heat. Easier front-to-back chassis packaging. And the crankpin timing makes the identical power pulses as an L-twin.

[@Gruntilda-Winkybunion]

I tested it, and 4 weeks i will Get a brand new! Sorry yamaha!

[@devonnobles1083]

So what I heard about the gsx8s is that you think it's a great bike that should sell well, and anyone who buys it will be happy to own it. 👍

[@matthewdemello]

"My name is yammie noob, and every motorcycle except fast Euro bikes and torgi monster naked bikes are dad bikes and BOOOORRRIINGGG"

[@joshuaseawright221]

Have you ever driven the 8s?

[@druscanam]

I think its best to reserve judgement until you can ride it. I think they will release a 400cc version of the back of this but feel it's important to realise the 800 first. In the same way people see a KTM Duke 390 as a mini Duke/690/790/890/SuperDuke and not the other way around.

[@cranedaddy678]

LOL @ the negative comments on this bike and the motor. Go ride one.

[@marco84010]

The new Suzuki 8S is one of the best motorcycle's out there in the price range under 10k. The quality of workmanship and the chassis are unparalleled in this price range. The modern design is a matter of taste and the performance is sufficient for everyday driving.

[@daniellindeque541]

Frankly I'm not all that excited about your opinion anything motorcycle!

[@goru426]

The price was announced for the US market. The MSRP + destination is about $9500, after taxes and dealership markups it will be around $11,500-$12,000. I think that is too much for a plastic fantastic bike.

[@fernandoisaacfilms8933]

Not everything will make sense to you when they build a new motorcycle. New updates and changes are good and always exciting to see a new bike. I remember now why i unsubscribed years ago. Strong negatively opinionated. Some people are stuck on what we already have and how it should stay.

[@yufoh7753]

Strangely enough, I always thought the same thing about this guy. Unsure how I ended up here.

[@brunodebrandt1037]

To me, the new gsx8s is the prettiest of the suzuki naked bikes. And a lot cooler than the new hornet. Even if the Honda is more fun to ride, it looks way too much as a sensible dad bike. What a shame. The new Suzuki gsx8s will be a hit I think. A torquey engine combined with a refined mix between sport and comfort is what most street riders appreciate.

[@N3ilCrox]

At least Suzuki finally did something for once in my opinion but I oddly wanna see this 8S becoming an 8R a fully faired version of this motorcycle

[@BagpipekilR]

I was just thinking that very thing. I sure hope they do!

[@johnjcleland]

The 8R is coming for 2024

[@kurc24k76]

Actually for me this is exactly what i wanted a MT07+. It has all the features of MT07 and a up and down quickshiter, traction control and KYB suspension. I've always wanted that bike but when I rode the first gen. it felt so cheap and barebones, yamaha never actually updated it much until now when honda and suzuki made their bikes, suddenly we get tft display on MT07. I think that more competition is great as now every manufacturer will try to get us the best features with best pricing.

[@mikemcallister3138]

Least qualified reviewer.

[@Joe-629]

And you have not even test rode it yet.

[@Mr_Glenn]

I actually have an 8S as temporary replacement for my GSR750 at the moment, as the GSR is in for repair. I have to say, it's nice! It lacks the punch my 4 cylinder has, but it's definitely not bad. It's a bike I'd buy if it had more power and lugged a bit less below 3k. It's a pretty good thing! I'd rather have the 8S than the MT07.

[@Mr_Glenn]

It's also a lot smoother than the 07, vibration wise.

[@davidw8668]

So you haven't ride it?

[@milbella1]

I think it's a great looking motorcycle with its nice color combinations and tech. It also looks like a more exciting motorcycle compared to the new Hornet's more toned-down look which may steer people to this bike.

[@jmfaria450]

Looks are subjective. But the hornet is 20-30 lbs lighter with 10 more hp.

[@paulconnell1309]

@@jmfaria450 And sharper electronics too.

[@rondobrondo]

@@jmfaria450 yeh 9 more horsepower on a 750cc bike that weighs 420lbs, I’m sure that’ll make a huge difference 😂😂😂

[@tombellows4167]

Nobody can honestly say they like this 8s with that incredibly ugly rear tail / light thing from a horror movie! Wtf?

[@ridzzy6969]

why are people talking about the SV650 being discontinued? was there anything official from Suzuki?

[@pskalenda14]

I test drove a GSX8S last year at a dealer demo day in Toronto. Wasn’t able to open it up on busy streets but I hated the engine in comparison to my 2020 Honda CB650R. The parallel twin felt and sounded cheap compared to my inline 4. Loved my CB already, but loved it way more on the drive home from the demo. Also drove the GSX-S1000GT, which was phenomenal. My new dream bike.

[@parkerjohnson1781]

I went to buy a mt07 and ended getting the gsx8s for my first street bike. It felt so much better and has more tech.

[@sirluncha_lot4342]

I love it and im going to buy it

[@stevec6427]

I'd like to see more 360 degree parallel twins. The old Triumph Bonneville 865 motor had heaps of character and with the right pipes it sounds beautiful. Something like that motor but with 80+bhp in a Katana styled bike would be amazing.

[@leeengelsman1855]

Naaah too hard to reduce the vibrations for a 360°crank at high revs.

[@MikeSmith-vb8ul]

@@leeengelsman1855 Then why not a nice torquey 180° parallel twin? Easier to balance but with 800-850cc unlike the Ninja/Z650...

[@HifeMan]

@@leeengelsman1855 I have an W800 and the high revs aren't that bad, it's the middle rpm range where the vibes get real. 3-4k is vibe city but it gets pretty smooth once your below or above. Awesome engine with a lot of character but it does lack power. Still an blast to ride though and sounds great too. :)

[@NovaScotia300]

I'm glad that Suzuki is taking steps to creating new machines and also developing and using up to date technology to keep them current and relevant in the market today.

[@dereckwisniewski9311]

MT-08, i don’t think so. But I do think you did missed an opportunity to say ‘How about an MT-07 SP?’ An upscaled MT-07 with fully adjustable, maybe electronic, suspension, upgraded dash, six axis IMU and so forth just like the SP versions of the MT-09 and MT-10. Now that makes sense.

[@mattblecker47]

The Kawasaki h2 uses forced induction and is wayyyy nicer than the busa. Also get a nice sounding slim motorcycle with better reliability than the 790 duke, better suspension and tech that everyone wants over the mt07, and looks wayyy better take me now. Makes a lot of sense over the duke when it comes to the final price tag for street riding.

[@ruysk]

Suzuki should use the DL-1050 V2 engine in a roadster type bike with much torque down low. That could be a cool bike.

[@angelfabricioacevedoperez5066]

A new SV1000 I'm down!

[@Transilvanian]

Lame ? You didn't even ride it don't jump to conclusions

[@patricksandlin2700]

Yammie will slap on a new exhaust & tail tidy then call it the best bike ever! 🤣🤙🏼

[@dolphinride5157]

So, a year later and that hasn't happened. In that time I have come to think the GSX-8S is probably number one in the middle weight naked category. I want one!!!

[@AnotherBrokenBuild]

lol that’s what he just did with the 8r

[@martymcfly1776]

I see it as an obvious replacement for the GSXS 750 which was probably a very good motorcycle in the middleweight naked class but never sold well. This parallels Honda replacing the CBR 650 with the new Hornet 750 which also is a parallel twin and the obvious competition for the GSX-8S. Vertical twins in this market segment make a lot of sense. They are lighter and cheaper than four cylinder bikes, and in the low and mid rev ranges where urban riders live, they are more responsive to throttle input. Of the two I'm inclined to think that my choice would be the Hornet, but I think either would be a good choice. Of course the MT-07 that started this trend is still an attractive choice. If Suzuki does decide to retire the SV-650 it will be either because of euro-compliance issues or poor sales. I really like the idea of a GSX-4S. Are you listening Suzuki?

[@englishsteel-nz6im]

The gsx-s750 ironically blows away the mt09 and z900 in real performance and it sold poor cuz it's more sport bike than naked bike in the segment and people want torque-y wheelie machines over high revving cornering machines out of the class. These p-twins are becoming increasingly boring homogenized bikes. I've never been an MT line fan. The SV just has so much character even tho it's a bit dated.

[@MurrMan23]

@@englishsteel-nz6im more sport bike than naked bike? Naked bikes are sport bikes… also the 750 has more torque and low end power than the 8s. Way torquier and all round way better bike. I have one and it is completely under rated for what a good bike it is.

[@englishsteel-nz6im]

@@MurrMan23 Naked bikes run the spectrum from hooligan machines that have more adv/dirt bike DNA, to cruiser-y type of bikes, to sport bikes without fairings--- the Z900 and Mt09 are more upright hooligan DNA than sport bike DNA. Other than that my post argued how badass the S750 is compared to the new twins and it's immediate competitors--- especially track and curves where it lights up. I own one and really enjoy thrashing it around.

[@MurrMan23]

Mt-09, Z900, and gsx-s750 are all in the naked sport bike class. They all have sport bike engines, frames, and suspension. They are street oriented sport bikes unlike supersports that are specifically designed for track

[@englishsteel-nz6im]

@@MurrMan23 And SuperSports while being "race replica" bikes are designed for the street--- when people race them or dedicated track set up they usually do a number of mods to make them totally track oriented bikes and set up for that purpose. A GSXR for example is very designed for the street out of the box and is actually pretty comfortable ergonomics. Either way tons of "naked bikes" have nothing in common with performance sport bikes. Some do tho, as listed.

[@DasChristoff]

Looks similar to my 2023 gsx s1000. I love my gsx! Amazing bike!

[@ragerider6283]

I get where you're coming from to some extent but this is where the money's at & the most cost effective configuration now. It's also harsh to condemn it before riding it as P twins with 270° crank can be fun as I know you know deep down lol. Case in point, TRX850, Duke 890, Aprilia 660's, MT07, R7, Honda Hornet & then you have long or short stroke engines too for different characters. Although I agree the Suzuki is unremarkable in the grand scheme of things but I bet it's good & I like it personally. Definitely going to test ride it asap next year as it looks like cheap(ish) & cheerful fun. As for the SV, that's got 2 years left max I would imagine unless they update the engine (& styling) again very soon.

[@JohnnieV]

I’m a newb but love the sound & looks of the v twin. I’d love to learn about the why of every bike using a parallel twin.

[@eddiehowarth8123]

Mister Magoo of motorcycling lol

[@misterwin2393]

How do you stan for Triumphs and still judge a bike by the spreadsheet?

[@SkibbidyYibbidy]

I just want the bandit or sv1000 to come back

[@rantANDrave1987]

This guy thinks Suzuki should only make bikes for snobby motorcycle journalists. He thinks “interesting and niche” are the only bikes that are worth owning. This bike will sell very well across the globe. It’s a formula that works for Suzuki.

[@cbats1888]

All I am waiting for is a SV650-S(RA) replacement such as a GSX-8F! A closer reach to the bars than the SV650S, same playful powerband and I am sold.

[@chewytraverso]

Good Lord Yam, how long have you bemoaned that the havent changed it, now you,re moaning because they changed to what everyone else is making money on

[@Nucklehead-mm9gf]

I think Honda doing E-clutch was a huge differentiation from the rest on their CB650-R and CBR650-R. I really dig that and thats the innovation ive been hoping for. I dont need it but sure would love to have it during city and traffic or just stop and go in general.

[@harveymutch4158]

Here in the UK, the Hornet has been priced at £6995, that's the same price as the venerable Suzuki SV650. The rumoured price for the 8S was around the £8000 mark, that's a sizeable extra wad of cash for a bike which gives away 10 bhp, needs a diet and has a smaller tank, but does have the quick shifter as standard (circa £250 extra on the Honda). Suzuki UK is probably having to rethink their pricing right now, but if it really is released at £8000, it might be a much harder sell. I would suspect the Honda will achieve better sales in these recessionary times unless the Suzuki is significantly better on the road.

[@fortyfour1654]

Overpriced Overweight Underpowered Ultra Competitive Segment Net result, they'll heavily discount the price with unsold stock at the end of the year. Then it's a more palatable option.

[@richardwarsinske7064]

Yamaha is able to sell every MT07 (and probably 4X more if they were available) that has a wonderful engine and the rest of the bike is below average. The Suzuki and Honda new 270° P-twins at least have the potential to deliver equal or better engine performance/character + large improvements in chassis performance/features/looks at a similar price so sounds like a win for consumers IMO. I was hoping Yamaha would at least include all the R7 upgrades (suspension, brakes, slipper clutch) in the 2023 MT07 but it looks like we just get a TFT display so likely demand for it will diminish and Yamaha will be forced to to upgrade and hopefully give us a great all-arounder like the current MT09.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Yamaha runs upgraded suspension bones on the R3 and MT-03. I don't see why they can't do a bit more for the MT-07 by way of hardware, such as radial calipers and USD forks, even if minimally adjustable.

[@richardwarsinske7064]

@@exothermal.sprocket Several better performing 270° twin options hopefully will force Yamaha to do just that.

[@MikeSmith-vb8ul]

Stock MT-07 has adjustable rebound shock while stock GSX-8 has inverted forks ; ) Your pick...

[@richardwarsinske7064]

@@MikeSmith-vb8ul USD fork far more important IMO. Whether it provides better dampening control or not it will always be more rigid and have better steering feel. My understanding is OEM Yamaha shocks (Suzuki probably the same) are only good for about 8000mi. and not serviceable so any adjustment advantages will be short lived. Suzuki may still lose in the end because of its extra weight and longer wheelbase possible making it feel like a much larger motorcycle. If you live outside the US/Canada the new Honda Hornet is better than the MT07 in every way from the press reactions I've seen and I personally prefer the KTM Duke 790 over the MT07 too. Waiting on some actual ride reviews to see where the Suzuki comparatively fits.

[@dumptrump3788]

I like what Suzuki have done with the GSX8S/VStrom 800, but IMO they really need to use this platform to make an ip to date version of the GS500F, namely a light, fuel efficient, easy to live with, reliable bike that keeps the worst wind/rain off you, is sane at slow speeds & yet till has enough power to elicit the occasional YEET! The Ninja 650 is the only bike around, these days, that cones anywhere close to that & people scoffed at my old GS500F yet their "Hyper Naked" bikes had them sat out in cold wind & rain when the full fairing & screen on my weezing old GS mostly kept me dry & only partially frozen!

[@leeengelsman1855]

Yes sounds like an excellent suggestion.

[@dingerjunkie]

The last time we had this pattern was the '70s UJM phase, right when we had an economic fail (Carter stagflation & gas crunch). In the face of that, the Japanese chose to innovate...or at least radically experiment. It led to the "custom fours" (era of the Nighthawk), the first Japanese cruisers (era of Shadow, LTD and Virago), the bagger era (dawn of real goldwings), the super-sports (ELR replica, CBX, Turbos) and eventually the V-4 era of Interceptors/Magnas/Sabres. The cycle of boring, cookie-cutter bikes, stagflation, gas price hikes are upon us again. Either the industry players choose to make themselves distinct, or they will eat themselves like they were doing in the era of the SOHC-CB/GS/KZ/XS.

[@leeengelsman1855]

Yes I agree there were more interesting bikes in the past, This would be a great time for a bigger SV650 with a family of variants. But that would be incompatible with this new GSXS8S and so has no chance. The V twin is more costly less compact and heavier to produce than a parallel twin and the market competition is just too fierce now.

[@TheGronk78]

Planning to be on two wheels by next summer. Your videos are really helping me look into the bikes that would be right for me

[@chrispekel5709]

The thing is, you don't know what's right until you've been riding for a bit. Nobody can really help you as it's so personal. You'll probably want a totally different style of bike than you start on

[@marvinfenech7138]

I bought the gsxs750z in 2021 nothing to complain about the bike bit heavy when it's not going but when you drive it you forget about it ,coming from a Gixxer 600 before ,I didn't know that was coming out the S8 if I had known I would surely waited for it what ever they say if it's good or not I like it even coming from 4 cylinder to twin final point is buy whatever feel your heart wants 😅

[@ripntearslayer9101]

Unfortunately since the vstrom went the way of the parallel twin, i dont see the sv650 lasting long either, which is very upsetting. Besides suzuki, aprillia and ducati are the only ones making sport v engines. If they really want to be different, they have to keep to making affordable V/L engines. A possibility (not probable, but hopeful) is that the sv1000 could make a comeback, tho i would love to see an sv800, sv900, or something around there. That way the v strom could resume being a v engine, plus fill another niche.

[@buckrogers2546]

I agree this bike is lame but the GSX 750 looks sounds and performs good with that inline 4.

[@yawningdogge]

I'm on the fence about the styling, and this isn't the type of bike I would normally consider. But my local dealer has this at under 7k USD. That makes it VERY hard to ignore.

[@SWTVENOM]

Tbh this bike looks way better in person, I hated it when I first saw it. Now it’s one of my fav designs

[@JD-fd6gt]

Suzuki has always competed against Honda, Yamaha, and Kawasaki in motorcycle segments. Thats why they are called " the big four " if you were actually a real motorcycle enthusiast, you would have at least known that...

[@exothermal.sprocket]

He's got some stubborn bias, a little lack of higher elevation older-aged perspective.

[@Goopie48]

Can't Suzuki just update the ancient 2011 model GSXR750 still sold today as new? I'd pick one up right away if they did that, if the R9 doesn't come out first.

[@thedandy6765]

doesnt kawasaki have the z650/z900 which is in that ballpark?

[@hampuspettersson5388]

what is the price for the suzuki?? i read 14000 msrp somewhere and if that is the case its not a contender for the mt07 at all

[@keldonator]

I think it looks great. Looking forward to test ride one.

[@MRSketch09]

03:24 Is the US actually getting the new Honda Hornet? I thought it was Europe only? Interesting news.

[@DesertDuck_TH]

I believe it would be great if Japanese manufacturers could give us 2-3 cylinder 1000cc "Crazy Bike" (but not crazy expensive like the super duke 1290r) pricing it just below their i4 sport bike. As everyone is heading toward high torque and low to mid range power these days, why don't make it count and make some phenomenal bike?

[@andrewmilhoan3568]

It looks tons better than the new Hornet…even being down 10hp. The Hornet looks just like a 500F, which is great if you’re looking for a sleeper bike…but most people don’t want a fast(er) bike that looks so similar to a 300/500 bore fest of a motorcycle.

[@kaanozdemir487]

Hornet is way more fun bike. This bike is so boring, I tried both.

[@langhamp8912]

It's a fine motorcycle but USD non-adjustable forks? Like, not even preload?

[@nathenshin9992]

Would love a video of your thoughts on the new GSX-8R :)

[@Captain1929.]

It’s exactly the same as this bike they just put fairings on it

[@danielnicholson8190]

Does the current middleweight naked competition remind anyone else of the 80's 750cc competition between the big 4?

[@DominiqueBarbini-s4t]

Do you know how many SV 650 has been sold as new in dealership world wide?

[@KindOldRaven]

I kind of like the gsx8s, but I also really like the 2017+ SV650. With new prices the SV is about 2000 bucks cheaper than the gsx8s where I live due to being older and having less tech and all

[@popodood]

They should cut off a cylinder make the gsx4s a thumber and update their drz with it as well

[@ColinVance-q8u]

Yamaha really needed to add SOMETHING to the 2024 MT07- at the very least a slipper clutch and maybe a simple "Rain/Go Nuts" traction control selection.

[@JorgeMartinez-iq2tc]

At least it looks better than that butt ugly Yamaha mt 07

[@fortyinthestreets]

This is exactly what you asked for. You said 600cc in-line 4s were not practical so you got bigger cc parallel twin naked bikes. Tbh I like the Aprilia naked bike approach

[@mikeamphlett7913]

99% of reviews on this bike are very positive. I bought mine on these reviews and to me it is just awesome. It is not a motox bike or an adventure bike or a cross country tourer derrr who would have thought...... I have had those bikes. This bike is the best all rounder, for city, canyon carving and B roads where I ride 90pc of the time. Just fun fun fun,...

[@godly_boss_hog4305]

As someone who does most of my riding in town but still needs to get on the highway reliably I would buy a GSX 4S kind of bike in a heartbeat. Not a lot of competition in that power range more would certainly be welcome.

[@garborubbish7034]

Z400

[@godly_boss_hog4305]

Z400 is in fact a 400cc motorcycle and a decent one at that. My point remains that it would be nice to have some serious competition rather than 2 or 3 options which will also bring more competitive pricing.

[@pizarro3]

After much research I'm undecided between this Gsx 8, Triumph Trident. But this one has more torque and I think that with a nice muffler it will have an incredible sound. What color to choose?

[@mitchellharrington9127]

We want to see innovation & creativity. People want to feel 'that unique something' when you ride & look at your bike; not just the same bike with a different colour & badge. Manufactures are too comfortable these days, I can understand why; however innovation has never occurred through 'playing it safe'. Think of your favourite bike of all time, Is it a copy & paste of another bike? Or at the time; was it creative, risky, fresh & exciting? We ride because of how it makes us feel, So it's time to create bikes that'll give us that feeling which we all know & love.

[@diamondheat9]

Kawasaki wouldn't jump in because it is pointless. They have the Z900 which is just a little bit more money than what Yamaha already offers with little bit more power. It would be useless to suddenly bore out a z650.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Versys, Vulcan, Ninja, Z, ZRS all need a new 650. It's been around since 2006 and has always been the buzzy blandsville of the 650 twin class with a 180º firing interval.

[@toofastnobrakes]

Yammie!!!! We need to see YOU ride the new FTR!!!!!!

[@paulgibson4365]

Yam, when will you paint the turbo BUSA's tank?

[@Paco-92]

As a future beginner in the squid game I literally had my pants tighten oh so quick when you mentioned how they should make it a 400 cc

[@You_tub8058]

Motorcycling design has evolved into a complete package for riders. It's not all about the engine anymore. Suzuki doesn't make a lot of different bikes. They aren't the first to make a new bike for this new generation of street bikes. It would make sense, it feels slapped on. For Suzuki, you know you're getting a complete package from front to back, unlike something from Yamaha or Kawasaki . I would say you just have to ride it first before an opinion.

[@xabierolaizola1061]

I think that with the death of the old sportster there is a space to compete with HD, because the new nightster does not have the charm of the old one, so there could be a sport-cruiser vacant that japanese manufacturers could nail it

[@nicerides9224]

I don't think competing with Harley is a good idea. Their core customers are shrinking in number every year. The Harley style cruiser has been done to death and anyone really into that style wants the Harley badge on their bike. The future is electric and rather than spend money on another Harley clone it's better to use that money and resources to start development in that sphere. Especially if you want to sell into the European market.

[@SeanOzz]

What’s the guess of the price when it’s released?

[@richardcasey7521]

I nearly disagree with Yammienoob. I just bought one and it is a very enjoyable practical everyday bike. Every bike doesn’t need to be a 180mph sport bike.

[@greatbigeye2506]

270 twins are awesome but so is the SV650 and the styling is much more up my alley than this new bike.

[@krzysztofg2145]

I think that - apart from engine similarities to other manufactures - this nice Suzuki looks really nice. At first glance - it looks way more similar to new concept Hornet than this abomination which have "hornet" in the name ;) So. Plus for Suzuki for trying something new and keep up with sporty / agressive looks.

[@jridenour31]

Who cares if other manufacturers already make similar bikes? They're not all exactly the same. It just gives people another option and that's a good thing.

[@TheElicoA]

Hi, Thank you for the video. I was thinking of getting the SV650 but then saw this gsx-8s considered to be it's successor, I am more impressed by the SV650 but I feel like the extra security features of the gsx are improvements (traction control?!), I am pretty noob with motorcycles, will be great to hear your opinion :)

[@petersherwood8565]

Would be a good idea to put the centre stand back a comfortable seat and passenger grab rail

[@BuiltDifferent13]

I feel like Suzuki's are always starter bikes for people because they're kind of cheaper and you can always come across them. Suzuki is great man... My 1994 RMX250 IS A GEM.... Wish I could supermodo it where I live

[@HeliNomadic]

8:06 is where he almost starts to let go of his anti Suzuki bias. Give it a ride once it comes out and see how you like it Papa Yam.

[@Rodolfostiago1]

2 parallel cylinders are so boring and now it's fashionable in medium displacements... it just makes me want to go get an SV with your V2

[@BigCarKilla]

In australia, if they ditch the 650 then they won’t have an entry level large capacity bike. So a sleeved version of this would make sense.

[@MrFoxfire510]

I wouldn’t mind a 1000+cc 270 crank twin naked bike from one of big 4 japanese makes

[@ERICMANN71]

You do know they make a GSX-S750 to right? I have one.

[@flatD1]

If i should be honest, both are lame. The MT07 is as much as lame, as the 8S. Both share nearly the same engine layout with boring parallel twins. I‘m owning the 8S‘s predecessor, the GSX-S750 with 30 more HP and a screaming inline four. This is the real middleweight naked, that squeezes the others two.