The New Toyota Tundra Hybrid Takes on the World’s Toughest Towing Test Maxed Out!

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[@TheRamGuy]

It's about time TFL. I was just thinking I miss the old days of Andre/Mr Truck and the Ike. These are the videos that got TFL where it is today

[@Terrapinstation20]

Obviously they’ve forgotten.

[@TaigaTurf]

it's what got me watching

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks I appreciate that

[@btl4220]

Yes!!!

[@MrTruckTV]

@@btl4220 Thanks

[@erineopenaloza8311]

Love to see Mr. Truck! These videos are what brought me to TFL and I love to see this combo again of Mr. Truck and Andre.

[@MrTruckTV]

I appreciate that

[@chrissmith8711]

I've always loved Tundra's and I think Toyota did a great job with the redesign and hybrid option. Completely agree with the TFL guys though, with the F150 Powerboost, Ford has Toyota beat on power export. Having a giant portable inverter is huge.

[@c.e.1065]

Those temps are a little higher than I'd like to see, if a brand new truck is running those temps I'd hate to see how quickly it would overheat after 3-5 years of ownership

[@gorillaman08zx]

When I walked in the dealer considering buying one and they told me $20,000 over MSRP that’s all I needed to walk out! no truck with the piss poor capabilities of that half ton is worth that much money!

[@jonpayton9579]

I know you said on the temp gauges there’s no numerical indication, but for only an 8 mile stretch that oil temperature seemed a little closer to the red zone than I would like.

[@Erin-Thor]

That’s one of the issues with any turbocharged engine, they run hotter, at higher rpm’s and that increases the wear and tear on the engine shortening it’s lifespan.

[@shockracer]

Still great to see MrTruck make an appearance on TFL, seems traditional now.

[@MrTruckTV]

I'm glad you're watching

[@brianpevehouse1150]

I have that Ford power boost Platinum, love the truck. Favorite thing on this Toyota is the rear air suspension and full roll down back.

[@jacksonbangs6603]

Given how long Toyota has been making hybrids, you think they would by now be able to make an even better hybrid pickup truck. Not impressed.

[@tarekmakky2804]

Looking at the dash going uphill, I don’t see Tow Haul on. Was it forgotten? Great vid!

[@oscarruutel]

Can’t help but notice that the oil pressure was really low while sitting at 4000rpm. If that gauge is correct that motor won’t last long.

[@DennisYoung-g4c]

I was wondering if anybody else has experienced this? I contacted a Toyota dealership in Kentucky that listed a 2024 Tundra hybrid that I was interested in. The dealership informed me that since I was out of state and they would not sell me the vehicle.

[@jesseheb6063]

Interesting to try that IKE Gauntlet without tow/haul and see if you kick in regen way more or if it actually hurts the performance

[@sbrown307]

That was interesting. 53F is just about the perfect temperature for that engine/transmission. I wonder how it would do in summertime temps. I was surprised the oil pressure was (only) at ~25% with the oil temperature at ~75%. Like you, Andre, I would much prefer actual values instead of a graph. I have a 2017 Sequoia and love that V8. I'm not sold on the turbo V6/hybrid yet.

[@jamesharvey107]

Hotter the oil the less viscous it is, therefore less pressure.

[@dustinmarazzito8963]

The coolant stayed right in the middle during the test. I would imagine any truck towing 10k up the Ike would see an increase in oil temp.

[@laurenneufeld7107]

V8 gives better mileage towing. Love the air ride rear suspension, as long as it’s bulletproof in cold weather (northern Canada weather). Nice truck though. I could get over the 6 cylinder issue

[@fozzir]

Great Content, TFL, always the best videos!

[@TheRedrider05]

Ill bet my old 2007 classic duramax can tow circles around this truck. And for a fraction of the cost. Not sold on these hybrid / ev trucks.

[@Offshore1977]

But the cost though. That rear window roll down like I this Tundra should have been left in the Sequoia.

[@Hankxiong]

13.6 mpg while towing 10k lbs is pretty good! I get 13-14 in my 2011 crewmax not hauling anything.

[@Preston_Smith]

She said can you see yourself driving it for the next 20 years yeah but I'll probably be paying it off that long

[@JohnSmith-dj5gf]

Why doesn’t TFL talk about payload? That capstone Hybrid has to be maxed out on payload with 1000-1500lbs tongue weight and ~500lbs of Andre and Mr Truck in there.

[@thomasabbottjr]

These companies need to stop creating all these ridiculous, expensive vehicles and focus on bringing more affordable, reliable vehicles to market. It’s wishful thinking but I hope they don’t sell many of these and loose a ton of money so they can get a reality check.

[@Walterrinho]

They have cheaper option always. Look at any brand and you see you can buy a base single cab and 2wd model of any truck.

[@aussie2uGA]

Welcome to the new world order. Prices aren’t going down.

[@Santi-my5pf]

Thought I was watching off the ranch the whole time

[@verlaryder]

Interesting the Capstone is actually noisier inside than the less expensive Limited. And there's no fuel economy advantage to the hybrid. Thus the Capstone is mainly for the very small % of owners than have money to burn.

[@DoctorRennie]

Is Mr. Truck drunk? 😊. If so, good for him.

[@maxhenry1977]

I thought mr. truck was going to punch andre out with the way he kept cutting him off. Nice self control, mr. truck.

[@MrTruckTV]

Andre is a nice guy

[@mrfordman9999]

Yay! I missed this!

[@dalejones4322]

Great to see Mr. Truck. I love the Ike. It's interesting to see these trucks pushed to their limits. Thanks guys for a great video

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@Preston_Smith]

She said can you see yourself driving it for the next 20 years yeah but I'll probably be paying it off that long

[@John__Doe__]

You guys should have a chart at the end with different trucks models, truck year, payload and mpg. To compare between make and MY. thanks!

[@lutomson3496]

yes but they dont tow the same weight and configuration so the results dont mean much..a little odd that they dont unless they want to skew the results and toyotas hybrid battery warranty sucks i got rid of my prius under warranty as the batteries were failing and they were not failing bad enough..ill wait for solid state batteries..their warranty is terrible

[@happycamper6352]

I'm sad to say that in an apples to apples test, this hybrid Tundra isn't very impressive compared to competition in real-life towing. The hype and excitement is there in the media, but the real-life numbers are par at best when all is on a standardized test, and other auto-journalists have proven it. I'm a Toyota fanboy myself, so it hurts me worse than most to admit this. If they introduce a hybrid that has lithium batteries that can plug in and commute/run errands in EV mode and then tow and go the distance in hybrid mode, like a Rav4 Prime, then they'd be in a league of their own for the win. But too many buyers want the interior tech/bloat/luxury and not the actual function and true performance gains, so this is what we get.

[@happycamper6352]

@@lutomson3496 Toyota Prius owners report quite the opposite though. Toyota treats their Prius warranty claims better than any other model due to image concerns. Plus the batteries have a very good reputation if you get the lithium models. If you tell your story to Toyota they'll be quick to resolve your problem so as not to get comments like yours, because they are trying hard to be a leader with the Prius.

[@machfive916]

I like watching TFL tow at max truck ratings, as these really show what the trucks are made of. Awesome truck, but $77K is so steep for a 1/2 ton pickup.

[@kevinthomes1046]

With that quality of interior they have to charge. The Ram Longhorn and Limited are the only trucks comparable.

[@scottmendoza8989]

No way for a new developed pickup truck with a 6 cylinder they put that same six cylinder on the LS 500 and they still have major recalls and problems with that engine and it's been in that car tested since 2015 and they haven't got it right what does that tell you turbos do not work for long long time

[@alfonsokelly2878]

Get used to it! The Heavy Duty trucks are approaching the $100,000 mark fully loaded.

[@andyham6094]

@@scottmendoza8989 just cause it was in a different vehicle doesn’t mean it’s gonna be the same. Even tho it’s the same power train, there’s still changes they have to make and tweak it and make it function into a big pick up truck and have capability the way it does. The engine itself is one thing but everything else that makes it turn is not the same. You are comparing a small car to a full size pickup truck. A lot more strain and stress on a pickup and it’s not apples to apples. A lot of vehicles have little issues here and there first year, even the most reliable legendary Toyotas also had a few issues here and there in the beginning but what Toyota does best is tweak it little by little till it’s perfect and I’m sure they will figure it out and the tundra will be reliable. Time will tell though.

[@Hunter-nb5bj]

77k is especially alot for a truck that looks so awful in my opinion. Looks like a solid truck but everytime I see one I just cant help but think how bad the front end looks.

[@connorjohnson3291]

Would be interesting if you re-did the Ike with the same weight that you towed behind the non-hybrid to see if apples to apples, the hybrid powertrain actually gets better MPG or not💪

[@Jay-me7gw]

Why would it get better MPG? The hybrid wasnt active except for the first 5 seconds when they accelerated from 35 to 60mph. Even then it abruptly shut off at 50 mph and the engine had to get it from 50 to 60mph by itself. If anything, the extra 500 lbs of battery and electrical components makes it worse.

[@jamesvelvet3612]

Per Toyota Engineering: The Hybrid driveline is not designed for better mileage. It is designed for more power.

[@zygmuntziokowski7877]

Great Job! I agree you guys should have a chart at the end with different trucks models, truck year, payload and mpg. So far, I like what I see with Tundra.

[@Erin-Thor]

Look up tundra recalls. It’s kinda scary. Let’s hope 2023 is better than 2022.

[@adamsmiths3016]

It's like lipstick on a pig. It may look good km the outside but that engine is a massive downgrade from the v8s

[@Erin-Thor]

@@adamsmiths3016 - Toyota makes awesome vehicles, these are still amazing trucks! The only issue I see is longevity, turbo’s produce more revs and heat which shorten engine life.

[@adamsmiths3016]

@@Erin-Thor why change from a perfect v8 to a problem ridden v6 with turbos. Toyota had the perfect setup only to shoot themselves in the foot.

[@Erin-Thor]

@@adamsmiths3016 - You’re preaching to the choir there.

[@AgentSmith911]

Mr Truck and Andrey on the Ike! Best combo 😊👍🏻

[@denisbrisebois7658]

Absolutely 👍👍.

[@PensacolaHvac]

Agreed

[@MrTruckTV]

Great to be back

[@paulherring4230]

I'll keep my 5.7 till the wheels fell off nice

[@NawMan357]

Well.... it'll be a gooood while.

[@JohnConrad]

Amen

[@Kageyama_Hiro]

@Paul Herring Long live the 3UR's 💪

[@pt93music]

I think this truck is a good starting base for the new Tundra platform. I'm hoping they do some tweaking to it over time to get it better fuel mileage and maybe higher power export figures. But overall this truck seems to be a big upgrade over a previous gen Tundra and provided Toyota has in fact fixed the waste gate problem on the early manufactured ones and this has good reliability I think it will be a great truck option for many.

[@joseperezpaz9986]

Well said

[@sullybiker6520]

I liked Andre's yelp of surprise in the intro. Always a good time with Mr. Truck!

[@MrTruckTV]

I snuck up on him

[@jamesbeaman6337]

@@MrTruckTV you are such a sneaky guy!

[@MrTruckTV]

@@jamesbeaman6337 Yes

[@JanBartos24]

My favorite duo! Btw 10k trailer is a lot for a half ton truck. Unbelievable!

[@robertpsotka3525]

Yes, a bit high for 1/2 ton truck

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@FishFind3000]

@@robertpsotka3525 well it’s supposed to be a max tow and thats the max capacity.

[@sgasdgdfsbgbha]

I would love to see a chart with every truck's results in the Ike. Historical and current. Especially mpg. Thank you for the great content. The Ike is what draws me to your site.

[@toobalicious]

We’ve got a 2011 Silverado 6.2L that the wife uses to pull her horses to shows anywhere from 10 to 500 miles away. Total weight of trailer and horses is about 7k lbs. Since the Silverado is > 11 years old and the miles are starting to get up there, I’ve been thinking of replacing it with a new truck. The Tundra Hybrid looks like it brings a LOT of updates to the equation including larger fuel capacity (32 vs 26 gallons), lower octane fuel requirements (regular vs premium), higher load and towing capacity, and a better ride/environment. In addition, with the air suspension, you can inflate and balance a heavier towing load or deflate and enjoy a nice ride with no load. I’m thinking that in addition to pulling the horses, this would be a nice road trip vehicle with good comfort & range. This might just be the one we need. Thanks for the excellent review Andre and Mr. Truck!

[@mscottlawrence2037]

Love you guys, what a dynamic duo, keep doing your thing guys and thanks a million

[@MrTruckTV]

It's fun

[@mscottlawrence2037]

@@MrTruckTV you guys definitely make it fun

[@MrTruckTV]

@@mscottlawrence2037 Thanks

[@joepertic6759]

The price is still better than than any EV truck and much more versatile.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

😂😂😂😂🤦‍♂️

[@ML-lg4ky]

I’m sure there’s one of two people in America who will buy this truck and tow a skid steer.😂

[@matthewanderson9912]

Good to see Mr. Truck with Andre. I’d like to see him go on the other tow test with the slow speed and curvy two lane to get his take on that one. That’s the true toughest towing test in my opinion. I like the new Tundra. I think they vastly improved the styling.

[@rudolphna54]

Absolutely, he always has great insight and I'm so glad to see him back. I'd love to see him on the slow speed towing torture test.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks guys

[@happycamper6352]

Toyota tested the Tundra Hybrid throughout my state of West Virginia for that very reason (hills and sharp curves everywhere) before almost any information was released about this current generation, and that's where some of the image leaks in the media came from. I'm not sure if the "leaks" were on purpose or not.

[@jamespenner1412]

11 brake applications and 3.5 mpg? that seems poor for towing 10k no?

[@the1doubledeuce]

It's great to finally see a towing video with the hybrid Tundra. I have a 22' Limited, and it tows my 19' NOBO like a dream. Immediately after breaking it in, I took a family vaca to Glacier, from Eastern WA, and I was impressed.

[@captaindiabetes4244]

Nobo is a tiny trailer. Even an old tundra can tow it just fine lol

[@lordcorgi6481]

If Toyota added a system like Ford's Power Onboard it would be a perfect truck. I use mine almost daily at jobsites. I used to use a generator and now there's no need for one.

[@rw0037]

It's honestly disappointing they didn't have that. Toyota's hybrid minivan has a 1.5kW system, yet they only give their full-size hybrid truck 400W? They definitely made a few bad decisions designing this truck.

[@rw0037]

@Jean Toronto Raptors Being disappointed is an opinion. I'm not allowed to be disappointed that their truck doesn't have as much power available as their minivan? Toyota clearly has the capability to implement it, especially on a truck this expensive. This hybrid Tundra has an electrical system that the engineers did not fully utilize in order to compete with the only other current hybrid truck, the F150, so of course it's going to be directly compared. Ram, GM, and Nissan 1/2 ton trucks all have 400W outlets available, same as this hybrid truck, which has far greater electrical generation capabilities. They phoned it in when designing features on this truck.

[@tycotoys]

Leave the heavy towing to domestic turbo diesel trucks. If you use that Tundra like I use my GMC 2500 HD it simply won’t hold up to the abuse. Brakes, frame, suspension not heavy enough in a Tundra. The Rental dealer I I frequent won’t allow customers to pull skid steers on a trailer with a Tundra or most any other half ton trucks.Said too much liability. Said a customer insisted his Tundra was enough truck to tow 12K lbs, after hooking up trailer rear end was excessively pushed to the ground. Would not allow customer to drive away, ended up delivering with there F-350. Don’t kid yourself with these half ton trucks.

[@ZXSNIPERZ13]

If you use a half ton like a heavy duty then it won't hold up!?!?! Wow who would've thought! Its almost like it's the same for every other half ton

[@tycotoys]

@@ZXSNIPERZ13 Any educated person wouldn’t use a half ton truck on a daily basis to tow and haul heavy loads. Doesn’t matter who builds the truck.

[@terryerickson3469]

Best way to start my day. Mr Truck and Andre

[@pryme2013]

Like a threesome scenario or you mean just watching this video?

[@MrTruckTV]

Awesome, and coffee

[@Erin-Thor]

But this is a $93k truck, $110k with the current market adjustment in my area. 😳 That’s borderline insanity.

[@coryernewein]

I watch Mr.Truck on his own channel, but I really enjoy him and Andre🤙 Good simple TFL review, nostalgia is great!

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks for watching

[@mdf2mdf287]

You forgot the part where you didn't have to spend an hour disconnecting the trailer and charging like you would with an EV.

[@99unclebob]

Great video , Andre/Mr.Truck, your routine was rushed in this video , not the normal, its all good and nice to see you 2 back together, the Tundra Capstone is just that a well finished product inside and out,68 decibels at 60 mph @4000 rpms is good, my car cruising on the highway at the same speed @2850 rpms with nothing on is at 74 decibels and i thought that was good , the Tundra performed well in this towing test , $77,000 is not any different than any of the big 3 , they are in the same ball park, i agree with Andre that the pro power on board in the Ford hybrid system is a sweet thing to have in case of an outage and you do not have to buy the most expensive model to get it, that's a bit of a leg up for Ford, it would be a hard toss up between the Ford and Tundra for me , time will tell 👍

[@edconder2956]

8:50 the Tundra had turbo and battery boost. Then hybrid boost dropped to zero. Did the Tundra ever access hybrid boost again going up the Ike gauntlet?

[@T_81535]

Don't put too much thought into it

[@Icutmetal]

@@T_81535Some people like to pick fly crap out of pepper.

[@Ducs4life]

Would be nice if you added the following talking points/analysis. 1. Payload 2. Confidence and Frequency you'd perform a max tow with the truck vs. deciding that upgrading to a more capable vehicle (HD or 2500) is the better choice.

[@MC_015]

I’d venture to say they were over payload on this one….I’ve shopped the new Tundra, the lack of payload capacity is what turned me away. The SR5 that I looked at had just over 1200 payload…

[@jamesharvey107]

@@MC_015 Ya, thats why I went with a F150. 1800lb Payload.

[@gregrowe1168]

Seems every commercial I see with the new tundra towing, it always looks like the rear end is squatting. I don’t think that’s a desirable trait in a tow vehicle. I’m sure the slightly softer suspension gives it a better ride but I’d rather have a stiffer ride and not feel like the truck was being overloaded.

[@Icutmetal]

@@MC_015I doubt they were over payload (they seem to be aware of those things), but you know they were flirting with it seeing they were using a weight distribution hitch.

[@stevenwilkes9373]

Im a huge Toyota fan however if I had $77,000 to use to pick a truck I would be in diesel duramax high country easily towing more weight

[@justinmorrison3219]

I'm really interested on seeing how this truck holds up in the long term. Toyota has never turbo charged anything other than a Supra and having dual turbochargers I wonder if the engine wears out twice as fast? Yeah it's good when it's below 50,000 miles on the car but long-term I just don't see it and paying $70 almost 80 grand to find out no thanks

[@scottmendoza8989]

Exactly and they gave an estimate on what it would cost to replace those turbos you have to take out the transmission or the engine to get to them just like you do on the Ford cuz they put them underneath the car in between the frame and the transmission on this one so you're looking at probably 8 to 10 grand to replace them with labor and parts parts

[@JIPlatium]

You are wrong about Toyota and how many cars they have made with turbos on them. Also Trains and Semi trucks use turbos all the time. If they were such an issue, they wouldn't still be using them today. The big three use them too, so hating on a turbo?? whatevs

[@jza80king]

I own a 1998 Supra with the stock twin turbos still with 160k miles. I've had no issues with the turbos. Technology of turbochargers now is vastly superior than the technology turbos from 30 years ago. The idea that turbos will wear out is in my opinion, an unproven assumption. For me, regardless if an engine is normally aspirated or forced induction, if you don't maintain it, it will fail. Also, the Supra is not the only turbo engine Toyota has ever produced. The MR2, 4 Runner, Soarer, Chaser, Camry, Celica, Hi-Ace, Landcruiser, and I'm sure I'm missing others, all came with a turbo option engine.

[@Ww8.3]

Supra, mr2, chaser, celica, RAV4, 4Runner, Camry, Corolla and many more Toyotas have had turbos in them. Just because it’s not the United States doesn’t mean they don’t do it 😂

[@JohnSmith-zi9or]

Welcome back Mr. Truck !!!! These towing tests are awesome; however, in the different conditions it is hard to compare between tests. It was 55F for this test. How would this truck have performed if it were much warmer or if the air was less dense as it was in other truck tests? Would the oil temperature stayed within limits?

[@ProCoach2373]

Terrible oil pressure at 4k!

[@anthonyrodriguez113]

I love seeing Andre and Mr Truck going on the Ike together. Both of you guys got me started watching TFL years ago. It’s about time!! Keep it going guys love your content

[@davidhoover2446]

Mr. TRUCK!!! I love seeing him. I love the young guys and they do a great job, but it's nice to also see the seasoned guys!!!

[@TFLtruck]

Thank you.

[@MrTruckTV]

Now I'm seasoned, I thought I was sexy beast !

[@mattfillman1182]

Glad you brought up the price of this rig. Great truck but my paid off 5.7l Tundra is stayin in my drive.

[@rationlesspersona]

Holy cow! The Tundra went from 22 mpg highway down to 3.5 mpg while towing! With its 32 gallon gas tank, that means it lost almost 600 miles of range! What a joke! I can't imagine buying a truck that loses so much range while towing. If it can't do at least 300 miles while towing 5 tons on the Ike gauntlet like the made up truck I swear I have does, it shouldn't even be called a truck. (Yes this is just making fun of EV truck video comments, but the math works out.)

[@BPJac]

That was up the Ike only. They got around 10MPG overall I think? Read it in the comments above somewhere...

[@rationlesspersona]

@@BPJac Oh I know, I was just cherry picking the worst information to mimic the EV haters. Even with the 10 mpg you could complain that it lost 380 miles of range and act like it is some terrible travesty.

[@juggurnott]

I tow a 28 foot travel trailer that weights 5700 pounds with my 2022 Tundra TRD pro and i have rear air suspension. Going up hill and driving on flat ground is great. But the biggest problem i have is going down hills. The transmission is limited and does not let you down shift well. Especially when traveling down hills below 40mph. You have to use the trailer brakes and truck brakes way too often. Its dangerous and wouldn't recommend this truck for towing downhill. Stopping power is horrible.

[@Heath3250]

Truck prices are insane now. My Silverado in 2014 was 42k. A friend just paid 44k for his Tacoma (off road) 2 weeks ago. Most silverados in comparable trim to mine are now 55k. Insanity.

[@seanm3ify]

lol GM is junk.

[@msclecarcrzy]

Same here. I bought a ram 1500 Laramie in 2014 brand new for 42k. Now the same truck is in the 60's. They have priced these trucks out of the average working man's price. Even the used trucks are high. Looks like I will be keeping my ram

[@mattbrew11]

Thanks Joey B!

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

Right! The fully loaded 2021 platinum and 1794 with 4wd could both be had for 53k, now the SR5 with cloth seats costs that much or more! Seems now a luxury truck makes more of a statement than a luxury vehucle like a Mercedes or BMW!

[@justaname109]

Leases are insane as well. I was up at the dealership on Wednesday because the lease is up on my car in 3 months and can turn it in early. I currently pay $485/month for my vehicle. The same vehicle, only 3 years newer, but had a $2100 LOWER window sticker price than my current vehicle is $713/month….

[@logdon17]

Love to see Mr. Truck, the less Roman is on the channel the better

[@MrTruckTV]

Great to be seen

[@MidwayGuy]

Can't wait to watch. These are my favorite videos that you guys do

[@MrTruckTV]

Glad you watched

[@JoseHernandez-co4mw]

Didn't any one hear the bad rattling around 14:40 min mark that was pretty loud

[@enfekted13]

The thing about Toyota is people think they are behind. What they do is perfect what they can bring before a release. It's the safest way to keep reliability and keep customers coming back with no problems.

[@htownsfinest87]

Finally someone tows 10k with a 1/2 that is supposed to be able to tow 10+

[@th3prof3ssional]

Absolutely love you guys, when are y'all gonna upgrade to 4k 60fps cameras so we can see everything like we're there!?

[@copelandcook7273]

I see alot of people are talking about how expensive it is but a F150 lariat hybrid is now 75k. Also, the Lariat is not in the same class as the Tundra Capstone. The resale will is also better with the Toyota than the F150.

[@vr4787]

Cool. Still would rather have the V8 again. Yeah it has less output but it’s just simpler with less to go wrong, longer service life, and does about the same mpg wise when towing.

[@qx4n9e1xp]

What this truck needs is an inline 6 diesel. That would be amazing! 25+ mpg in a pickup truck vs 16 mpg is always welcome, and that's what diesels commonly pull, but emissions regs do consumers dirty and prevent these great engines from hitting market.

[@TruckerMike089]

@@qx4n9e1xp I totally agree. I'd of loved a Tundra with a diesel. I'd probably actually consider buying one then

[@vr4787]

@@qx4n9e1xp yeah it’s a shame. Diesel can run off used cooking oil, kerosene, etc. Diesel fuel is a byproduct of the gasoline. refining process. If only they’d come out with a cleaner diesel fuel then we wouldn’t have to put up with def and emissions equipment.

[@AmazonWebService98]

@@vr4787 it's already there , GOV don't care it's all about making money , you think they honestly care about the environment .

[@gregorydinio9385]

I would not have anything to do with this truck. I would still rather have leaf springs and v8.

[@mattd8411]

Awesome finally well see if toyota can put their money where their mouth is. I love tundras like my 2500 ram to but don't think its a quality my 18 tundra was.

[@ynpmoose]

Looking forward to tests with the 2023 Sequoia hybrid. I have a family of 6 and a 32' travel trailer. I think it shares this powertrain, so even this test was encouraging.

[@jaxonhiggs1404]

What do you tow with currently? Curious as I’m in the same boat.

[@lancecorporal9894]

Same here. Keeping an eye on the Sequoia. Currently using a 2007 Silverado to pull a 26 footer

[@johnathanbeicher536]

They don't like the price??? This truck is loaded out. The high trim competitor ford F150 Limited and Chevy Silverado ZR2 & High Country are all more expensive.

[@9663mu]

Some really good half ton choices these days. IMO it comes down to which one you think looks best. All of them are plenty capable for the average user.

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

I agree

[@fcodxdart1083]

Payload is a big factor as well. The tundra has the least of the 4 main trucks. When looking at travel trailers this is a huge factor.

[@9663mu]

@@fcodxdart1083 how many percentages of people buying a truck look at the payload ? I’m not disagreeing with you that payload is Important but 90% of truck buyers don’t even know payload.

[@happycamper6352]

@@9663mu What's sad is that most buyers are looking for a living room with a microscopic bed behind it just to pretend that it's a manly "truck". How many of these trucks do you really think are going to haul firewood, dirt, or gravel? How many do you think are going to be models that can haul a piece of lumber and still close the tailgate without it sticking out? When I grew up, almost every truck had an 8 foot bed that was used multiple times per week to haul stuff that couldn't be hauled by a car or van. So what if you had two adults and two children? You didn't need a back seat; you put those two kids into the same middle seat belt or tossed them in the back with the cargo.

[@ryanfitzpatrick7973]

Cool video!!! I did notice in the up hill tow that the tow + was not light in the cluster, does this mean that you towed 10000lb up the hardest up hill climb without tow mode engaged?

[@joeyzasa7383]

$75K plus for that version. Think I would go for a GMC 2500 HD with the Duramax and Allison Trans before that thing. Just saying.

[@kylewilliams6096]

Andre the only time you had it in any type of tow-haul mode was when you was going down the mountain testing the engine braking. The new Tundra and older version always displays whatever mode you choose on the dash it doesn’t stop illuminating unless you turn it off or don’t have it on from the get go it will shut off if you turn the vehicle off. Let’s see how the Tundras rpm’s and transmission performs with tow-haul plus mode actually on towing 10,000 lbs up the Super Ike Gauntlet and when you floor it from 35 to 60mph. They equip the Tundra with the new tow-haul plus feature for a reason it’s only fair to use it during these test no reason to judge or discredit the Tundra in comparison to the competition unless all tow features are on and the test are truly compared equally to whatever the competition may be. When you do the decibel test ask Toyota is there a way to turn the speakers off from making the fake V8 engine noise that way you get a accurate measurement. Love your videos keep up the great work glad somebody decided to do what you do that way people know what they are truly getting before they buy a truck.

[@happycamper6352]

I'm still in awe that people pay for both a muffler and fake engine noise on the same truck. Never underestimate the power of stupidity.

[@rtffishing5640]

Hybrid is the way to go…Toyota is going to win the day over the woke EV or nothing crowd.

[@mclroy]

Hello Andre. I like to see Me Truck doing an ike with you. It take me back in the first years that i began to watch TFL I think it was in 2014 because at that time i was in search for a new pick-up. At that time, i was gathering informations on the F-150 3.5 ecoboost.

[@MrTruckTV]

I appreciate it

[@DK-zd2cu]

Just to be clear, the video does NOT represent the amount of brake applications that the Tundra necessarily requires going down Loveland Pass because the driver did not use the vehicle’s transmission in the way that the engineers purposely designed it to be used. Therefore, this video, while entertaining, is not reflective of the true capabilities of the truck.

[@tonynagy2042]

IMHO, hybrids are the way to go, you get the best of both worlds. This can always be improved on, I have great suggestions that haven't been thought of yet. My ideas are for sale btw. That price is actually very affordable.

[@justaname109]

Agreed, the limited range on the EV’s when towing is scary. The F-150 lightning going from a 330 mile range to under 100 miles range when towing is atrocious. Imagine having to stop every 1.5 hrs, recharge for an hour, on a 500+ mile trip. 2.5hrs for every 100 miles…yikes

[@Dive-Bar-Casanova]

Plug-in hybrid or why bother?

[@gfgneo]

Hybrids along with electric vehicles emit radiation. They are AC currents not DC. If you drive by yourself and dont take long drives all the time its not to big of a deal as the batteries are usually in the back seat. But if you do drive a lot and have you kids that ride with you, then sorry u cant in good conscience subject my kids to that.

[@justaname109]

@@gfgneo I’m no fan of EV’s but you’re just wrong here. The energy coming into the car(the charge is AC) but the car stores and emits DC power. This is exactly how your home works. AC is delivered to the home. As far as the radiation, or EMF, EV’s emit less than 20% of what’s considered a dangerous level. For reference, a standard, non EV still emits 10% of the dangerous level. Making both vehicles safe in that regard

[@thomas735]

@@justaname109 he’s right, all electronics from your smartwatch to your smartphone release EMFs. Manufacturers just don’t want us to know about it.

[@njackson3148]

I think Toyota dropped the ball on this. The hybrid system is basically pointless. Toyota is the hybrid system pioneer. I expected a lot more from them. Especially in the MPG dept

[@KenMcGeachy]

Not sure if they've changed this, but my 2018 f150 also defaults to normal drive mode whenever you shut it off. I agree, if the trailer is still attached (the truck even tells me it still is) why wouldn't it just stay in tow/ haul?

[@mikeparadise2474]

My 21 stays in tow/haul til the trailer is disconnected. The other modes it asks you if you’d like to return to the previous mode when you start it up

[@thelosteddies]

Ugly truck and the fact that they don't put numerical values in the gauges tells you everything about the design and their target audience, who will love this thing. Blocky Toyota interior and all.

[@Mntnere]

Should have kept the v8 and just put the 10 speed behind it. Mileage would improve , probably better than the new v6 combination

[@swami539]

Or could have least kept us as an option in a few years all of the v8’s will prob go away but would have been nice even if it was an option just for like the first few years on this gen. Would have been nice for that v8 to have one last dance.

[@Cherokeelion]

Dealer markups are turning that 77,000 into 85 to 90 plus thousand…. For a toyota pickup that isnt HD rated.

[@samshumka8149]

Andre and Mr Truck. This is where it's at for me. You guys play off each other so well.

[@ericneal1872]

Andre: As you know, I own an F150 hybrid and maybe a couple times a year I can get it to shudder switching between electric and gas. The Toyota is smoother because it doesn't do that. (You mean in the couple of days that you've had it???)

[@NeoMK]

Now this is how you build a truck!

[@nostradamus7648]

Tell Toyota to get serious about Pickups and build a Diesel Dually. They'll take so much market share from the Big 3.

[@joe1071]

I’ve driven some EVs, and the regen braking is strong enough to almost exclusively use one pedal. I’m curious how the strength of regen didn’t help more. Maybe because the hybrid regen isn’t as strong as a full EV? Also, if your electric system is full to capacity, will you still be able to use regen? For example, your descending a long pass like that and your regen tops of your system, will the regen braking assist stop? If not, where would all the electricity being generated go?

[@patty109109]

I’ve had a few Toyota hybrids and a couple of evs and overwhelming the hybrid braking system is very easy. More than very gentle braking it starts hitting the friction brakes.

[@gwot]

I think it's just Toyota's design, I've driven 2 generations of Lexus ES hybrids and the regen feels nothing more than normal engine braking. the new Toyoat EV BZ4X has a one pedal driving button, so maybe it's a motor capability thing, or simply software. Also speaking form one of my Lexus experience, under normal driving, the battery wouldn't charge pass 80% by design, but I was going down a mountain once and it was the first and only time I saw the battery get full, and the motor braking feeling felt the same afterwards. Pretty sure the generated electricity after full just gets wasted, like keeping your phone plugged in after 100%, it just heats up the phone.

[@3lbtrigger]

They system by design will not charge above 80% on it's own to allow a buffer for excessive regen. The battery indicator might show it's full, but on the data list it'll only be at 80%. I have never seen ANY Toyota hybrid HV battery above 80% SOC. So in a sense, yes. When the battery shows full, you still in reality have 20% buffer for regen and then the Hybrid system will bleed that off on the next acceleration. Otherwise, it'll not allow regen if the battery gets to a true 100%.

[@joe1071]

@@3lbtrigger this is helpful, so on a steep multi-mile decent with a load, you can theoretically fill the battery and the regen deactivates. Interesting!

[@MrSuperflydude]

I feel like that's difficult because each oem, especially for hybrids, is going to have different regen programming

[@Jordan-ql8pv]

A locomotive is technically not a hybrid. They use a diesel engine which directly powers an electric motor using a generator.

[@rhod8201]

Good to see Mr Truck and the Ike again. This is why I started watching TFL. Please make more of these. Get back to your roots.

[@jeffbanfieldsflwr3537]

Too much. I have the regular SR5 ,it does just fine and 20k less.

[@joseph2149]

Would love to see a chart of all of the trucks you've taken on the Ike gauntlet and how they compare

[@dreadnoughtprime6301]

Kind of annoying hearing everyone sing the praises of Toyota's turbo V6 as though it's some kind of hitherto unseen technology and yet they talked crap about the ecoboost all this time.

[@Jay-me7gw]

Lol right? That said, I bet Toyota executed the TTV6 better than Ford did. And I own a 2014 F150 Ecoboost.

[@dreadnoughtprime6301]

@@Jay-me7gw Well, that's what I'm talking about. We don't know how reliable the Toyota motor is, but it's already being considered as having been executed better.

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@dreadnoughtprime6301 On paper it has attributes that are better. For example, the intergrated exhaust manifolds like the 2.7 Ecoboost has. The engine cooling system and intercooler setup is superior to the F150 IMO as well. I am also guessing they didnt mess up timing chain and cam phasers like Ford has consistently done.

[@craigquann]

Regenerative braking could definitely be more aggressive especially for tow/haul. But that is definitely a nice looking truck