THE NEXT BTS! Why they fail every time? SUPERM, STRAY KIDS, BLACKPINK, UK-Pop

[@jhopeur7219]

BTS has never had more than 4 versions of an album (which they w/MOTS only). Some of these groups are out here with 17 versions. That is not the same thing.

[@dramasfc07]

BoraCity Spills Facts... I am not a fan but yes I do listen to others kpop groups and I respect every group who works hard... But no matter what you say you can't change the fact that BTS paved the Way and there's no Next BTS....

[@Isa06137]

I absolutely hate how kpop treat 'love myself' as a concept because of love yourself series success. BTS members themselves admitted that how much this project means to them on personal level and boys are really sincere about every song they release but I never find that sincerity when it comes to these kpop groups. It's NOT a concept.

[@Kookiepookie2025]

Yes bts doesn't do concepts

[@lilli798]

Bts didn't invent loving yourself. Need y'all to stop making the act of loving yourself a kpop thing.

[@user-nh5iz8xu7y]

@@lilli798 but why did it become a trendy concept only after bts love yourself. Kpop always copy what bts do and for love yourself it isn't meant to be a concept but it's meant to a message to people not doing it because its trendy that's the thing I don't like about kpop.

[@lilli798]

@@user-nh5iz8xu7y Again, bts did not invent loving yourselves. Need you armys to stop trying to gatekeep rubbish. So because bts talked about loving themselves first no one else is allowed to talk about it? Y'all act like your faves invented everything in Kpop so you want to gatekeep it but so many things your faves do was also done by other groups first and i don't see fans of other groups whining about it. Only you people. Another kpop group designed the first lightsticks in Kpop for their fans but now fans of bts use designed lightsticks. And yet the fans of that group that used lightsticks in Kpop first are not whining about it. Imagine if it was bts that did it first. Y'all wouldn't let any other group do the same for their fans. Need you armys to have some self awareness for once. Y'all are actually the part of the major reason people find kpop insufferable.

[@-amel-9896]

@@lilli798 nobody said they invented loving yourself so why are you triggered

[@forg_tful.]

blackpink debuted when bts were already blowing up with "fire" in korea and blew up worldwide with "dope", 3 years into bts' career, that's not near the same debut time as bts.

[@jhopeur7219]

The issue with the "next BTS" for me is that it's simultaneously so deluded and so ungrateful. Like BTS is 10 years into their career and has been on Billboard charts since 2015. They've been a mainstay in the American industry since 2017. No one else has even met the achievements of 2017 BTS. And they have no interest in actually trying to be organic artists. They just want to show up, do a dance, and get a Grammy nomination. Like BTS worked for years and years at honing they're craft, taking steps little-by-little, growing their fandom and learning how to stay true to their art while also navigating greater fame. And for all of these other groups (and their companies and fans) to think they can take shortcuts with media play and streaming farms and bought appearances/trophies and earn the title of "the next BTS" is so incredibly offensive and obnoxious. Especially given the lack of gratitude from fans, companies, Korea, and yes, the groups themselves, for BTS even creating the opportunities for kpop acts to have those bigger stages and audiences. Like if one group tweeted "Congrats on the Grammy nomination!" that would go such a long way. Just simple acknowledgement of what they've done for the industry. But everyone wants to belittle what they've done by either going "look--we've done it too!" (despite the alleged achievements being obtained through questionable methods or not actually being similar to BTS' at all) or by going "[x-group] paved their OWN way" as if BTS isn't the ONLY REASON the western industry is giving those groups any opportunities at all. Ugh. It's just all so gross to me. Like groups like BTS don't come around all the time. There is no 4th Gen version. There is no western version. It's like not every pop singer is going to be Beyonce. So instead of trying to constantly compare yourself to Beyonce or trying to replace her or trying to get your name mentioned in the same sentence as hers, maybe be okay with being a Camilla Cabello or Meghan Trainor or Cardi B. They're all doing just fine.

[@natashambulo3510]

I like this

[@robwebnoid5763]

I agree with the ungratefulness. Instead of sitting back & relaxing, enjoying what BTS has been accomplishing, other people are wondering who might next be able to reach those similar achievements. There is one big reason for this & that is MONEY. This "finding the next" is really all about money. The bottomline IS the bottomline. They envy how much money (& the huge amount of fans & awards, of course) that BTS is garnering & accumulating. "Hey, we should form the next big thing so that we can also hopefully rake in that same huge amount of dough." I don't know if I could say that "greed" of money is part of that factor, but I'm sure it's a factor. Everyone does it, it's just business. If one car manufacturer makes an SUV & it gets lots of sales & popularity, other brands will start making SUV's. The proof is in the pudding, as there are now millions of different brand/model SUV's on streets & highways. The problem with BTS is that, as alluded to in the documentary, their level of achievements is harder to match than another car manufacturer able to design their own SUV. I am sure that when the Beatles came to rise in the mid 1960's, there were probably people wondering who the next Beatles might be. People compared the Rolling Stones to them, who came just a little after the Beatles rise. But I think the Stones achievements were not as huge as the Beatles. I am sure the Beatles, when they were still formed, had more fans & also more album sales. The difference though is that the Stones physically survived the Beatles & is why the Stones were still around as a group in their 70's (age), when the Beatles disbanded by the early 1970's & half the members died since. Also, there was nothing wrong when people compared BTS to the Beatles, after BTS became hugely popular. It's logical, common sense. I too made that comparison because I am a Beatles fan since as a little kid. As was said in the reaction above, people compared them because there was no one else to compare them to because of the same tangential rise of the Beatles. Uncontrollable nervous screaming, fainting, crying, whimpering wide-eyed girls. As an outsider to BTS at the start, I saw that in both fandoms. Also, the global popularity, the album sales, the awards, etc. Even the hair cuts. What the mop-top was to the Beatles is the Asian bowl cut to BTS. They are practically the same hair cut. Look at old photos of the Beatles haircuts when they were still sporting suits & ties. And some of the older generation did not like the Beatles too, calling them beatniks & that rock music was raucous, just as it was being called during Elvis Presley's time before that. Anyway, I'm starting to ramble, hehe. I enjoy the Beatles & I enjoy BTS, I'm not out there as a music fan wondering who might be the next whatever with the same level of popularity. Well, I do sometimes think that, & I think the next whatever artist is going to happen, but it will come as a surprise, as it always will. The span of 55-60 years happened between Beatles & BTS. Something big should happen again either in the same amount of time, or less, or more, we don't know. I think BTS was destined too & they were destined to be compared to the Beatles, because as I said, it was common sense. No other bands have achieved that little detail of "3 number 1 albums in under a year" as happened to both of them. No other bands within that 6-decade stretch had that same record. So, they were destined to be compared. To prove that, I made the following wordplay a few years ago & you will see how eerie it looks... Beatles + BTS = B e a T l e S (see how all the letters match, as well as the symmetry). We all hope BTS will return from service, all intact. And if they do, they might be the first & only music band that is both fictionally & non-fictionally military. And they will now be part of 2 armies. And handle real army bombs, guns & bulletproof vests. One of them might even practice as a real scout (recon). You never know.

[@caribbeanstudies5340]

Well said

[@Kalakeiko]

I respect your opinion and I agree that BTS cannot be copied, but I have to disagree some of your other points, sorry. There are many extremely talented and unique Kpop groups out there with very diverse music and different genres, meaningful and relatable lyrics and a great stage presence and live performances as well and each of them trained very hard for many years to get where they are now and that have definitely paved their own way, but I won't deny that BTS are great artists at all. For meaningfull lyrics and beautiful story lines for example there's TXT (Tomorrow x Together). They have not only really talented members and diverse music, but also meaningful lyrics and beautiful story lines in my opinion such as with songs like 0x1=Lovsesong, Loser = Lover, Run Away, Frost, Can't You See Me?, Opening Sequence, Farewell Neverland, Puma, We Lost the Summer, Nap of a Star, Our Summer, Eternally, and many more. There's also Ateez, Oneus, Seventeen, Stray Kids, WayV (Chinese subunit of NCT) and the B-Sides for Monsta X, NCT 127, NCT Dream, EXO and Got7 to name a few. In terms of vocalists there's EXO, Shinee, BTOB, Seventeen, NCT, Ateez and Oneus and for rap Monsta X, Stray Kids, Big Bang, Ateez and NCT. As for groups and idols that write and produce their own music, there's Stray Kids for example who is entirely self produced in terms of music, lyrics and concepts as well as having chosen the members, name and logo with the songs being written by their 3Racha subunit that consists of Bangchan, Changbin and Han. Monsta X has Jooheon, I.M and Hyungwon write lyrics and produce songs and choosing concepts and themes. Soyeon from (G)I-DLE also writes and produces their music and chooses their concepts as well. The same goes for Seventeen where Woozi, S.Coups, Hoshi, Vernon, Mingyu, The8, Seungkwan, Bumzu and several others write and produce their music. Then there's several other Kpop artists that write their own lines and solo music and concepts as well, such as EXO. TXT also has very meaningful lyrics and stories that a lot of people can relate and connect to, including the members and they too write lyrics and verses and are involved in the production. I wouldn't say that Kpop is only an industry and not about the music or artistry at all. Every single artist and group worked extremely hard for years to get where they are now and did it on their own. I'm not going to force you to listen to other groups, but please don't treat Kpop as a genre like it is something to look down on and like it doesn't have talented, diverse and unique artists, because it does and many of them got where they are now because of years of hard work and dedication.

[@makitashameless2719]

@@Kalakeiko i agree that there are plenty of talented groups like you listed, but i disagree with the point of them "paving their own way". my reasons for disagreeing can be found in boracity magazines' video of why bts has paved the way. if you want to say that those other groups work really hard though, i agree 100%.

[@decemberko7924]

Thank you for this reaction video. But K pop industry is not very simple as you think. * You don't know how YG sent a journalist to pull down BTS for plagiarism. * You don't know how GD's sister and crews of YG addressed BTS for plagiarism. * You don't know how Kpop industry treaded BTS unfairly to cut from broadcasts. * You don't know how K variety show treaded BTS poorly. * You don't know how the other kpop groups looked down on BTS before. * You don't know how other kpop stands criticize when BTS won Billboard Award. * And more .......

[@wooshyu]

Every group is their own, this “next bts” stuff is annoying and embarrassing to hear as theyre kinda downplaying bts’ achievements thinking its easy to reach. And its also disrespectful to the group the company is making💀 just let them do their thing damn, no need for comparison

[@olysoiz]

This video is so funny, how people how react to this video think is serious? Kkk the owner of the video is literally downplaying all of this group, talent and hard work!just to make Bts look untouchable (which for now they are) but is pitiful since bts is so big and talent that is not needed such comparisons.

[@ree6042]

the most album bts did was 4 versions... recently almost all kpop grps have more than 20 versions including bp skz or even western artist like taylor swift and many more. bts went no.1 with just 1 expensive version.

[@olysoiz]

SKZ? Where? When?

[@pennyyoung3997]

When SM came out with SUPER M. It was clearly SM trying so hard to beat BTS. The sad part of the whole thing which I am still mad about is none of these companies (SM, YG & JYPE) ever come out and say nice things about BTS/BIGHIT.

[@mamejoe2043]

Exactly that my problem. They downplay them and did all sort of stuff to them but yet they they are strong

[@alien_fairy1973]

It's wasn't try to beat this group but SM traditional co ed group like in 2nd gen Uniq unit before even bts debuted... Stop making everything about bts

[@pennyyoung3997]

@@alien_fairy1973 OH please....there's even an article written about it.

[@alien_fairy1973]

@@pennyyoung3997 articles are written by reported who wants salary raise, nothing more

[@TiaIela]

interesting that kpopies are angry in the comments. She didn't say your favorite's name because she wanted to protect them. She specifically attacks companies and the media, not the groups themselves. so why are you complaining she had very good points. if you are angry that Lee Soo-Man, Yg and jyp were accused and called out. Ask yourself if you are a company stan or a group stan

[@olysoiz]

Good points? Unoriginal: Stray kids? Self produce group, self choreography and “self made” untalented: Aespa? There are literally very strong singers, why is she so angry about they not singing live? Just look in their recordings sections. Complaining about companies wishes as if is true she didn’t show any prove of the companies being direct connection with this magazines articles, but Hybe has 😅 stray kids, aespa and so much more K-pop’s groups downplay articles that hybe is involved and has prove! so I don’t see the “good point”.

[@forg_tful.]

the maximum amount of versions bts have ever sold of an album is 4. and their latest albums only do 1 or 2, mots: 7 was the last album to have 4 versions. some of these groups that chart nowadays do even 10-20.

[@marycatherine5424]

40:36 you have a good point if a company has the resources to support their groups they should, but there is a point where one can go overboard. What’s the point of using all those resources only for the group to fail bc at the end of the day, you didn’t manage to create any real lasting interest in the group. One example of good promotion is new jeans I think. They are definitely promoted well, but they are managing to succeed by providing something new and unique to what everyone else is releasing in kpop. They are standing out in a very good way. And the members have also revealed their own involvement in their music and some even already have credits. Letting an artist grow by not only promoting them well and giving them resources but by also encouraging their creativity and active involvement in their music is a lot better then investing in inauthentic music that the members themselves don’t even connect with. The audience can always tell an artist who is truly connected to their music from someone who is not and I think that’s what makes new jeans different to a lot of groups

[@neb1665]

This video is so accurate but multis or other kpop fans will not like it because most of the time they don't want to acknowledge the impact bts has had on kpop and how much bigger they are than every other kpop group.

[@aishwaryaahirrao]

Spill

[@moony2414]

I dont think "the next bts" is something necessarily bad for bts image, but it is bad for the groups that are used in this. It's like when bts were compared to the beatles back then, it seemed like they were a shadow of them, until they grew past this. The problem is that this other goups won't grow past them, and will always be framed as shadows, not allowing them to grow organically

[@goeienacht]

I think you guys are either underestimating or being too kind to the huge K-pop labels and their promoters/ceos. Lol. Many have stated many times themselves that they are going to replace bts popularity and sales-wise. There’s literal examples in this video alone of groups copying them, directly and closely after. Korean media and citizens in the industry have admitted to media play bribery to omit or snub bts. I blame the companies and sadly, yes, some bitter artists are involved as well.

[@jmsl0ver]

For me this video is well made because it defends its point that there are no and there will be no "next bts" because clearly each group has its own essence and if someday any group succeeds it will be on its own not under the pseudonym of the next.. but as themselves, because these terms apart from being disrespectful only make them compare and force them to live under the shadow of another and nobody deserves that.

[@blossom6693]

After years even if they have the same achievement as BTS, it won't be as dear to them as BTS bcz for example BTS member had hard time loving themselves so when they finally accept themselves as who they are they release love yourself, but other will be doing it with the focus of trends only or maybe feel a little bit just like respectful casual listener but it can't replace their raw emotion, for the worst the award will be at showcase but they will remain totally unexplored of their own artistic identity and we all know the tragic fame ending of each k-pop sensation, after disbanding they join their passion like acting and host but what about others who could not find that because of this rat-race.

[@neb1665]

simon didn't create one direction, he just took the credit for it. it was revealed in an clip that resurfaced where they were selecting the guys to group together and it was done by some other female judge not simon lol

[@hindq.6842]

I actually hate that the other companies treat the love yourself as a concept when it should be a genuine thing, also "the Next BTS" thing is pretty annoying cause 1) it's repetetive ASF and 2) BTS is still here so why are they treating them as if they retired or some shit like huh??

[@Bonnke-i5k]

The problem that I see with the SuperM and Simon Cowell's attempt to make the "next BTS" is that they want to take the shortcut to the top. These companies want to create a group and then catapult them to the top of charts and win awards in a very short period of time. BTS spent years perfecting their craft and building a loyal international fanbase. I see TXT, StrayKids, etc. going through a similar path of building and connecting with their audiences over the years. I have no doubt that they will reach more achievements than they already have now. Will they ever take BTS's place in history? Most likely not, but they can be celebrated with their own success.

[@pennyyoung3997]

Never care for KPOP....only BTS

[@whskrsg4240]

Maybe explain first what the connotation is when one says ‘the next bts’. When BTS was becoming popular in the West they were callled ‘the next Beatles’ but BTS would answer back and say they would rather be thought of as ‘the next BTS’. In other words, they respect that the Beatles are their own group with their own amazing achievements, and BTS just wants to be BTS, not to be the Beatles. In the same way now with other groups trying to grow, it is disrespectful to those groups to be expected to be BTS when they are not; those groups are their own unique artists who will bring in unique achievements that only they can bring. Likewise, it is disrespectful to BTS to be thought of as replaceable or that their achievements, which extend beyond music, can supposedly be replicated by using mediaplay and by throwing money at it so these companies can claim the same fame for their artists. That’s why the term ‘the next [insert any great artist name]’ is such a bad move.

[@marycatherine5424]

And also, the whole ‘the next bts’ tagline would be fine IF it was solely about creating a very successful group. But I’m telling you everytime the title is used it’s used to directly put that group against bts, often in those articles you may even see them try to put down bts and make it seem like they are now irrelevant. They always use this tagline with the intent to ‘defeat’ bts and that’s the problem here. The focus is no longer on making something unique it’s now about ‘replicating’ bts almost exactly

[@eatjinnie47]

I think the next bts concept is both disrespectful to bts and the new grps like why would u want the new grps to be the nxt bts , they r their own grp and why would u want another bts bcoz their music has nothing to do with bts, they r working hard on it themselves and bts is once in a lifetime musical grp why would u ever want a nxt bts, u can never have that. So i really hope as an army that the other grps fandoms as well as armys stop fighting abt this concept bcoz i believe the new grps personally dont even care abt being the new bts, only the media cares abt this shitty concept.

[@pacificpacific]

The dude in the hat keeps calling it flattery. It's flattery when you give credit where it's due. BTS did not set out to become next Beatles but they set out to become BTS above and beyound anyone else. It's not flattery when you try to steal BTS' achievements and create next BTS. Create someone who can give as much as BTS but not call themselves the next BTS. Otherwise it's just jealousy and hate. Avengers of kpop? Who are they avenging against? BTS? Then it's not flattery. It's plain jealousy and hate! They will always fail. There is NO next BTS.

[@mamejoe2043]

The success of BTS is even the reason Bighit did not go bankrupt and also HYBE IS now HYBE cos at a point they wanted to disband the group but they put their hope in them and they had nothing even how to debut was a problem. BTS is BTS and it can't be replicated and oh They need to create the next Army also 😂😂😂😂💜💜💜

[@mclitan9552]

I think there are some points that are missed. Those actions by entertainment companies are not flattering. If those moves are done out of admiration, then I guess it can be seen as flattering. But you have to remember, those actions are done to make their groups the "next bts". And it's incredibly offensive to label artists as the next bts when bts are still playing, they're still active in the industry. When companies say their groups are the next bts, they're also saying they are trying to take bts down so these groups can be at the top.

[@usagi009]

Those groups and idols don't deserve that . They're themselves and BTS is BTS . Those companies and media should stop that messed up narrative

[@piedpluto]

companies pay for mediaplay so it can be seen as their groups are as successful as bts, and kpop fans eat it up so easily, really, you just have to get on twitter like, is insane. bts have worked hard to be where they’re at and you see these kpop fans calling them flops & bragging around about their groups fake achievements, saying “oh is this the so-called biggest group?”. that’s what is so annoying to armys. these lies are used to hate on bts, downplay and discredit their hard work, all while their group’s companies have bts (the ones they’re hating on) as their standard.

[@ayoidek6571]

Boracity spills facts

[@Kimi_ARMY-yk3gt]

there you see again, who didn't get the point of the video

[@YamiletRivera]

I think you are missing the point... Boracity is criticizing the companies of media play (not promotion which is expected) basically. Also, how these companies/people like that British guy (who unsurprisingly didn't even come up with the lineup of 1D) want what BTS has achieved with no effort other than pay media to get s short cut. Also, don't take the analysis so personally.

[@ayoidek6571]

Lee sooman is so goofy I can’t

[@shelliblossom8953]

Dynamite and. Butter wasn't made to get Grammy they was made because bts was worried about army being affected by the lock down they are cheer up songs

[@geekyreader34]

you guys should read and react to the comments. a lot of information that's important is being written here

[@TrulyAmazed1]

There will NEVER be a next or another BTS.

[@carolinesch.]

About superM: They did know that the fans will probably fight right or wont all be happy? Because if you take the popular members from groups and put them in a different one, even if they are from the same company they are direct competition to each other. It also remind me of aespa currently where the fans ask where group comeback is but have 2 members not available because they have to be part of the other group.

[@Ns-uh6po]

it's funny to see in this video the skz who are hated every day for not meeting k-pop standards and korean tastes, skz created their genre of music not to be called a second someone, and even more so they never aspired to become the "second bts".

[@sho_nelly]

That's true 😌🤝

[@user-nh5iz8xu7y]

But the problem is still the companies media play. That's the problem.

[@Ns-uh6po]

@@user-nh5iz8xu7y maybe american companies want to do something because they need noise, but obviously not in favor of skz. In Korea all the articles where skz is called the second bts are not written at the suggestion of the company, jyp has long been at odds with all media and korean charts, so as our company has long stated directly that it is not involved in this and condemns the manipulation of other companies, because of this, the group does not have the same promotion as everyone else

[@cindybakley7130]

The sad thing is alot of people know Bts but not for the actual music. Other groups come to American and they think every group is BTS. Nct got mixed up for them multiple times. Kpop is still not as big as we think it is because we are in the kpop bubble. BTS was meant to have their success and everyones success can be different and still amazing.

[@kuntalasen]

Tbh not many people know every mainstream artists songs...it's not just applicable to BTS. They are quite mainstream but yea Kpop itself is very much still a niche unfortunately 😕

[@fetoratempest6375]

Simple definition of paved the way

[@estefanyacurero1663]

My opinion might be biased because I'm a Stay and not an Army but when in the video she said "Lack of originality" and "Lack of raw talent" and put clips of Skz hurt me a lot. For me Skz are one of the most original and talented artist in k-pop for me and I don't think they are trying to be the next BTS. I'm not trying to be toxic, I just wanted to say my opinion.

[@JkLina13]

U know sometimes clips doesn't mean like she's talking about skz, she mentioning groups by directly telling THE OTHER GROUP and u see that groups name on the screan , she mostly coming for BP but never disrespecting or being rude about artists in person but mostly about dirty media play of their label . I am an army and I love skz , I listen to their music but I am not stay , casual listener ! I have seen how skz members especially Chan reacting to bts song and I know they love Bts and for me as an army it's rly melt my heart ! Chan is a great leader literally reminds me Namjoon !

[@nyxsneha4588]

how long have the two of you had this channel running? u dont know basics about bts.

[@rauhinawinitana540]

I love BTS too, but I also enjoy many other Kpop groups and artists, they are all amazing. But BTS is my daily go to group for the past two years when I found them here on KZbin. I'm so proud of them, but also appreciate many other groups from South Korea.

[@rebe_eka]

the thing about Love Youself as a 'concept' is that BTS wasn't using it as a kpop concept, it was a message that they were always trying to portray. the kpop industry saw it as a trending topic and promoted their groups with this as a kpop concept, but that was it. they weren't actually trying to send a message.

[@SylvieHabaSilva]

There is and will never be a "next BTS" until the end of time!!!

[@Rose-lb9hd]

every company is promoting their group as next bts and its so disrespectful to bts and even the groups themselves especially when most of them don't even acknowledge bts for paving the way and for making kpop mainstream in the western market which was a minority before bts achieved 2017 bbma award.

[@sucy1242]

please give me a SPECIFIC example of a group promoting as the next bts? and an example of the idols themselves saying they are the next bts? I'm waiting

[@nfstay88]

@@sucy1242 i'm also waiting for it bcus i've never saw or heard there's a groups promoting as the next bts or said that they are the next bts.

[@user-nh5iz8xu7y]

@@nfstay88I was on the internet one day and saw a random article saying tempest was "the next bts" just because they had 7 members the problem is those news article and media play

[@ashneetk4901]

No disrespect but it’s still funny to me how K-pop fans including you both defend idols only dancing when their main focus should be on singing live ,because that’s literally what their job is,they are trained for and fans paid for. I mean I can understand using backup audio but dancing only with no mic whatsoever or using it for decoration is funny which the reason y general public hates K-pop in general and always put them in the category of idols and not real artist . It’s funny how kpopies are here to watch the video and I knw y’all are multi Stans as well ,so I expected this. I might sound egotistic to some of y’all ,but that’s what I believe is paving the way means . Oh and about the articles ,there are actually a lot of times when the companies themselves does the media play and releases those articles.

[@NotSoDailyOfficial]

Nope, an idol is called an idol for a reason. They have to be performers. Wether that may be rapping, singing, and dancing. Their job is to entertain. Most lean towards a certain skill. Nothing wrong with lip syncing. We’ve never trashed it, is it better when an idol can do it without, yeah! But no one should be hated on for using it. Massive stars in the west use it and it’s just part of the job.

[@ashneetk4901]

@@NotSoDailyOfficial exactly my point because they are trained for years to do dance and singing at the same time . I didn’t wanted to name drop idols but Like sm have a long history of having controversies of lipsync ,they have amazing vocally talented idols under them ,but if we can’t hear them sing live ,what’s the point of being musician . Recently bp have been criticized a lot on the internet even from their fans how they perform during their concerts ,don’t sing live when they don’t even have that much difficult choreo ,and some members even messed up choreo . Idol group mixes a lot of elements which is what makes them unique . If they only gonna dance while keeping their mics off 90% of the times ,that’s bullshit . Because as a music fan ,I wanna hear their voices more , if I wanna hear backtrack ,I can literally watch their music videos again . I know most lean toward certain skill ,but they are also asigned as a rapper/singer as well .I guess this is y they don’t grow musically except few (cuz I heard groups like txt,straykids,seventeen,gidle does control their artistic aspect) because their fans might wanna see them as only entertainers.

[@NotSoDailyOfficial]

I think the point we tried to make was completely overlooked. Most idols can sing and the songs that are produced are proof of that. Some sing better than others and some can sing live and some can’t. The validity of an idol isn’t solely dependent on wether they can do it live. Some struggle with dancing and singing so they avoid dancing while singing. Or some can’t sing the best live so they’d avoid with lip sync. There’s nothing wrong with it. Musicians can be idols but not every idol has to be a musician, or an artist. The ability to make your own music although really impressive also isn’t a requirement to being an idol. Being an idol covers a large scope of skills. Because you enjoy the music aspect more doesn’t mean the performing and dancing or variety/entertainment aspect is any less valuable.

[@fearnot-im2607]

No one like bts LEGEND

[@StayVCA98]

You know that "Nxt BTS" or even that "Paved The Way" narrative will never really work on others except the said grp alone, because other artists especially SKZ from what I know is building their own strong and a long term unique identity to themselves as Artists, hence why others feeling disrespected for calling their faves as such is justified, because its a complete disrespect and ignorance to that grps artistical image if they're going to be only known for as the "Nxt BTS" plus it builds an inevitable expectation that the grp in question will be exactly like them in which of course that wouldn't be the case, hence why some of us Stays to Stray Kids renounce that kind of thing, I mean it is still an honor and if some looks it in a positive light then go for it, but from what we've seen so far, it is mostly used as a derogatory term to both grps in question, so yeah nope, we will build our own success and image is all...

[@WilliamsAK07]

Lol....BTS' different versions are different languages, not just different pictures. The point is to be individual, be your own artist, authentic, and organic. Don't spend your time and money trying to "beat" BTS, which a lot of companies get caught up doing and not letting their artists grow to be creatively themselves. When competing....that's when tunnel vision sets in, focusing on beating someone's accomplishments, no focus on the music, lyrics and presentation, this is the point of this, annoying, yes, when you try to copy. The other thing stated in this, these groups associate themselves with BTS to increase visibility, why not do it on their own? I think it's funny how you guys work to explain away things....loving yourself is universal, of course, the concept doesn't belong to BTS, but they are pointing out that K Pop, the industry is following the trend....again, if listening to the whole thing and then respond, might be better. I don't think Stray kids, BP and others are not good, but why do they have to keep associating themselves with BTS, why do their companies have to throw so much money for articles to be written about them being the next BTS? Seriously? Should do some reading, Dynamite, this was written in English, RM and BTS talked about this, didn't think the translation to Korean would be as good, so they left it in English, not try to get a Grammy. If they were really all about getting a Grammy, they could and would make an album in English. The thing about back track, BTS was always being accused of lip syncing, but somehow nobody else is being accused, it's okay? This is only what is/has been visible to the western area, they are known in Korea, they make sure they're known (producers). Comparison to the Beatles, is actually very relevant, they are the only group after the Beatle to have three number one albums in less than one year, it's not a comparison in the terms of them being the next Beatles! BTS did not just reach U.S. or western popularity, they reached domination. BTS got to where they're at on their own, nobody paying their way, nobody to write "fake" articles to puff up their popularity. They came to the west because the K Pop industry made it nearly impossible for them to make it there (the big three) with their money and control of the industry which includes radio and TV exposure. BTS had to make their own way, coming to the west, using social media to get their music and videos to fans. Now K Pop more than ever uses all the social medias, after seeing the fan base of BTS consuming this method. BTS is the only BTS, period!!!

[@falihateezan6452]

This video split the fact and I can also see kpop fans anger here u should be calm its not groups fault itself babe it's the media and the companies doing this so don't show any hates this video is not for a battle I hope u understand the whole concept with patience

[@irmarodriguez1390]

One thing is to want to be as big as BTS another thing is to say the next BTS it's a big difference.

[@geekyreader34]

its not flattering to be a copycat. you can take inspiration but when all your inspiration resembles all of one groups songs and concepts then your just copying.

[@mariajuliatizon8330]

With due respect could you kindly make your visual a little bit bigger and the subtitles kindly make a little bit bigger as well coz we can't read it it's to small. Thank you in advance for your understanding in this request.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@landonrose4156]

I really love hearing your guys thoughts on this

[@mginger3803]

Putting aside my biased heart and see things much more objectively.. many groups (not all) are treated / debuted merely as a "product" / "idol" not as an artists.. So its already lack of x factor. Though I'm not an army I could see BTS are genuine, and Bighit was in the right part when planning and making decisions along it. Plenty of other idols before and after BTS are also genuinely talented and truly "artists" but sometimes the company did not Use it and marketed it "well". More and more lipsync.. More unreal concepts.. Members who get Tiny parts of singing/screen time... Lack of engagaments in terms of musical performances and stage presence... And many more

[@udumb9564]

bora city speak nothing but fact

[@zymora8097]

It’s not flattering to shît on the people who literally made k-pop famous in the western music industry. Which is what media and big companies have been doing for literally no reason since BTS debuted. You’re saying that people who put their entire lives into their art should take big companies paying tabloids to downplay their achievement - as a compliment? A lot of multis think this way despite the fact that even the groups they stan give credit where credit is due.

[@alexismarshal]

yes i agree that bts got comared to beatles a lot like the other artists but bts are the only artists that was able to break beatles records.

[@Kookiepookie2025]

The thing about boracity that it talks about facts 💯

[@Jae..9..]

For me, it comes down to the song quality. Whomever is writing for SK is doing them a disservice, because they are talented guys and if they’re song quality improves, the sky is the limit.

[@teuarmy]

BTS PAVED THE WAY for kpopies and others groups so that they can be a part of the mainstream industry but kpop fan or mainly korean people don't want to give the credit to BTS. Anyway there's no next BTS

[@mamejoe2043]

That's all 😂😂😂😂 and if they want the next bts they should also try to have the next army that can sell tickets over 800000 within minutes for days straight

[@pennyyoung3997]

The whole point is not to be the next BTS but to be a better group than BTS. Stop being a copycat. Come up with a new idea.

[@Cheng-jq6fc]

HELL NO....!!!!!! THERE WILL NEVER BE THE NEXT "BTS"!! BTS sings different genres & has alot of profound meanings ..lyrics are so deep..❤❤❤❤

[@parkpark6976]

for BP . the past, investors and corporations viewed girl groups as ornaments in kpop because they thought they couldn't become famous and make money. Boy groups were better off because 80% of the kpop fan base is female. Therefore, the company pays more attention to boy groups. But then one day, 4 girls BP prove and fight that girl group can be the main income of the company. They made people all over the world accept. The existence of a girl group Many companies and investors saw that girl groups could make a lot of money .Nowadays, if you look at the new generation of girl groups. More companies are willing to invest and promote a lot like luxury brands. BTS and BP grow with the internet Many people know BP before BTS and many people know BTS before BP. Just because BTS is more successful doesn't mean BP isn't popular. Picking up BP that separates male and female due to basic kpop fandom is stupid. when asked about kpop Two names will stand out: BP and BTS. I laughed when I saw the VDO. Many world records belong to these two groups, but the VDO makers do not accept the truth and only praise their favorite bands. i followed kpop for 15 years bigbang u.s.a tour bts still standing on the edge of the stage

[@TheTruth513]

Facts. 💯

[@janee822]

True

[@pennyyoung3997]

BP debuted in 2016......

[@Jess-tn1in]

Well, the word “next Bts” wrote by Korean journalist not SM, YG, and JYP. Why are you blaming artists and their labels saying they want to be next b*s. They don’t even write the article themselves the korea journalist want attention so they wrote it this ways. All of artist work so hard they just didn’t get proper promotion from their company.

[@janee822]

True

[@kuntalasen]

Ever heard of mediaplay by companies? Agree that artists should not be blamed but let's not ignore how these are common tactics of companies to hype up their groups.

[@Jess-tn1in]

@@kuntalasen SM does not even buy ads when SM artists come back. Do you think the label going to pay for the media to hype up their groups? If you don’t stan any of the group from SM, YG ,or JYP don’t speak because aespa has bare minimum of promotion they barely go to music bank or sth like that and it’s been so long since they come back. Exo got nothing from the company not even one stage since their last comeback. Also, the other 2 companies they promoted their artists exactly the same with SM barely promotion and don’t pay anything.

[@Jess-tn1in]

@@kuntalasen also I think that the artists from big3 have influence enough to get attention from the public. I don’t think the company or the artists from big3 need Bts name include in their news to get hype up or anything 🤷🏻‍♂️ the big3 are already well known so…yeah 😅

[@kuntalasen]

@@Jess-tn1in Yet SM is the most notorious company to try and break it in the west(LSM literally paid money to have a street named after him, in L.A. if I am not wrong 😭). SuperM and their huge amount of bundles(before the bundles were banned) are the prime example of that. They even got called out by Billboard along with other artists for using those tactics. JYP uses ads in their MVs and YG invests a lot in playlisting and spotify deals( BP is again the prime example of that). Fun fact: In BP's spotify profile, there used to be a mention of BTS. An artist's profile is usually handled by the artists or their associates so... And by public? Do you mean kpop stans? Or GP around the world? Cuz I agree about the former but no, Big 3 doesn't have influence enough to get attention from the GP. There are of course a few groups who got known enough in some parts of Asia but all over the globe? Nah. Edit: So I did some research and viola! Guess what? SM uses ads too :) For example Aespa "Savage":- Views without ads - 90.63 million Views with ads - 146.0 million Aespa "Next Level" :- Views without ads - 139.3 million Views with ads - 191. 3 million For NCT 127's "2 Baddies" 85% of the views were ad views. You can search up the articles where even k-netizens were surprised at the absurd amount of ad views. They had only 8million real views in the first week, so 60+ million views were all thanx to ads. Pls do your own research too cuz these companies are really not as naive as y'all make them out to be.

[@Kalakeiko]

They make some valid points, but I disagree with some. There are many extremely talented and unique Kpop groups out there with very diverse music and different genres, meaningful and relatable lyrics and a great stage presence and live performances as well and each of them trained very hard for many years to get where they are now, but I won't deny that BTS are great artists at all. For meaningfull lyrics and beautiful story lines for example there's TXT (Tomorrow x Together). They have not only really talented members and diverse music, but also meaningful lyrics and beautiful story lines in my opinion such as with songs like 0x1=Lovsesong, Loser = Lover, Run Away, Frost, Can't You See Me?, Opening Sequence, Farewell Neverland, Puma, We Lost the Summer, Nap of a Star, Our Summer, Eternally, and many more. There's also Ateez, Oneus, Seventeen, Stray Kids, WayV (Chinese subunit of NCT) and the B-Sides for Monsta X, NCT 127, NCT Dream, EXO and Got7 to name a few. In terms of vocalists there's EXO, Shinee, BTOB, Seventeen, NCT, Ateez and Oneus and for rap Monsta X, Stray Kids, Big Bang, Ateez and NCT. As for groups and idols that write and produce their own music, there's Stray Kids for example who is entirely self produced in terms of music, lyrics and concepts as well as having chosen the members, name and logo with the songs being written by their 3Racha subunit that consists of Bangchan, Changbin and Han. Monsta X has Jooheon, I.M and Hyungwon write lyrics and produce songs and choosing concepts and themes, Soyeon from (G)I-DLE also writes and produces their music and chooses their concepts as well, the same goes for Seventeen where Woozi, S.Coups, Hoshi, Vernon, Mingyu, The8, Seungkwan, Bumzu and several others write and produce their music. Then there's several other Kpop artists that write their own lines and solo music and concepts as well. TXT also has very meaningful lyrics and stories that a lot of people can relate and connect to, including the members and they too write lyrics and verses and are involved in the production. I wouldn't say that Kpop is only an industry and not about the music or artistry at all. Every single artist and group worked extremely hard for years to get where they are now and did it on their own.

[@blossom6693]

You miss the whole context, the point is kpop is now replicate the thing like good message, lyrics and all those stuff bcz BTS did great but the problem is what if they have their something own artistic identity which is not done before for example erykah Badu created Baduizm which is her trademarks but she could have been successful as another genre artist that she has learn but she didn't waste her energy and talent in something already have been done and now we are introduced to new genre, this whole k-pop think is waste of time and talent for the sake of some achievement that cost someone artistic identity,bad bunny did not do something better than someone, he did his own thing and become the bad bunny, each k-pop groups are now turning into BTS with more furnishings or atleast the base of the whole thing is same when they can be them maybe solo or group or can coexist together, Can you compare Coldplay/BTS/imagine dragons? No bcz these things are different and choose to be different and music world will accept something polished version of kpop group but will they be as eventful or impressive as Beatles who changed the game of pop music forever? No.taylor Swift break Beatles record but if you ask who is more eventful it's always gonna be Beatles, Michael Jackson who set the bar even if it's broken they become themselves and are legend .all this killing long-term gain of artistry in order to have a few records which BTS never wanted, it's just happened they keep on saying this for years, Making someone fit in something is crime, those companies are trying to do that only, what if those guys just like music as hobby and could have been a great actor, there are many kpop artist who later admitted of not knowing their own passion bcz of this horrible rat race in kpop . Harry styles was great in 1 direction and biggest boyband at that time but as a solo he becomes extra ordinary and surpass his own group in every record, that the whole point of this video ,?let them be Harry styles or Camila Cabello not Harry of 1d or Camila of fifth harmony or let them be group like Queen or Coldplay Or imagine dragons or BTS who have given something new and fresh when they could have been followed trends and achieve the same record they have achieved. Drake break a lot of records but people still consider 2 pac as most influential rapper bcz he changed the game of rap forever with thought provoking lyrics. Now kpop group conversation are focus was mostly on performance from beginning but BTS give more priority to lyrics so every group are told to focus on that rather than the performance thing which was fresh thing but Eminem had talk shit and still called legendary?why? Bcz he did it in his own rapping style which was fresh. What happening in kpop is trying to better what already have been done and becoming Drake when you can be 2 pac .

[@Kalakeiko]

@@blossom6693 Again, I disagree. There's plenty of groups that have their own sound that doesn't sound like the "typical" Kpop group. You can't compare 3rd gen groups like Monsta X or NCT with groups like BTOB or Seventeen for example nor can you compare 4th gen groups like Stray Kids or Ateez to TXT or Astro, the same goes for girl groups like Dreamcatcher, (G)I-DLE or Everglow in comparison to groups like NewJeans, Le Sserafim or IVE. And again there's plenty that do write their own lyrics and focus on the meaning of their songs as well, not just the performances, which is my exact point. People need to stop generalising an entire genre of music and acting like they're all the same and interchangeable when that is not true at all.

[@geekyreader34]

BTS didn't write any of the English songs. so to me they were ok and catered to the American pop market. but to me their own music sets them apart from anyone in k pop or any American boy or girl group

[@tinarangel34]

Good video, Borahae guys 🥰💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🇧🇷🐰

[@x_angel_x8714]

Not saying Stray Kids is the next BTS but I have a feeling that they will become just as big someday, they are defiantly on that track. Even being recognized in the VMA's and winning Worldwide fan choice at the MAMA's

[@foxpaw1]

Sorry vma's is utter bs award. Zero rules for nominations or winners. It's a participation trophy. I like stray kids, but no, they will never have the impact bts has. They are still w a company where the owner's ego is bigger than any group in the company

[@prudencemisoi9340]

I don't agree on stray kids following bts footsteps they are creating their own genre and have their career all planed out

[@-amel-9896]

She did not specifically mention stray kids tho??

[@Kookiepookie2025]

Kpop fans don't like these videos

[@whatever_itis]

Lmao we can see some of them in the comments now😂

[@Kookiepookie2025]

@@whatever_itis ikr

[@qwzm_skz]

no but actually I agree that there can't be the next bts but the video also missed a lot of points

[@whatever_itis]

@@qwzm_skz what point?

[@patriciadje514]

No 2019 Dionysius? Sad

[@sammichaelson7534]

Yg and jyp never associated their groups wity bts its sm who always obsess over big groups, the video youre reacting to isnt logical, bts didnt create the love urself concept they just wanted to connect with their fans, no group is copying a concept or aesthetic, pink aestetic dark wtf is that, even the name now making a similiar name doesnt mean copying , the video ur reacting is just biased,bts cant be compared to any groups bts is bts aespa is aespa bp is bp straykids is straykids etc

[@nfstay88]

Yeah i'm already tired whenever people said that stray kids are the next bts & then getting hate from army's. Like even stray kids members themselve didn't like to be labelled as "the next bts". Why don't people acknowledge them as "STRAY KIDS". It's kind an insult to them though.

[@sammichaelson7534]

@@nfstay88 i really sont understand why people keep thinking other groups went to be the next bts, they definitially look up to them but not want to be labeled as bts

[@sammichaelson7534]

@@eileencritchley4630 omg that was 6 months ago hahaha im so shocked, anyway i agree with what u said, bts helped lots of armies and their words are sincere, i just think its kinda stupid to say that people copied other groups for that

[@ZoriNikolova]

Stop yapping about that yeah bts didn't create it but they actually had story and message to tell not like kpop companies just making music and write the random sentence ,, I love myself"

[@sammichaelson7534]

@@ZoriNikolova songs are songs. No matter the message behind it. Just because someone doesn't have a whole backstory behind their songs like bts doesn't mean they're any less deserving. Plus this comment was like posted a year ago bro 😭💀

[@geekyreader34]

what the heck does jopping mean?

[@geekyreader34]

@@eileencritchley4630 lol

[@tnzleee]

Guys, don't listen to these empty words. Come on SKZ-replay album reaction, we're waiting💁

[@DBM1234-d1f]

a month ago TIME magazine named BLACKPINK as "ENTERTAINNENT OF THE YEAR 2022" and it is the first time in history that a girl group has headlined the cover of the magazine.

[@relaxingvibes6251]

I think the video is a completely army basied just having the abtunity to shit all the other groups and kinda disappointed you guys react to it but i like you so it doesn't matter 😅👍🏼

[@3k2jpm18]

You have not understood any of the points in this video if you think the author is saying the other groups aren’t talented or cannot be as successful.

[@relaxingvibes6251]

well i do understand every thing she is saying even the creators of this chanlle where disappointed at the way she displayed her opinion if she had any ! I respect every group and i wont say that to any one face just to be narratives like she did...

[@chayan3048]

The disrespect in this video... As a kpop fan, I am happy when new reactors said they discovered kpop with BTS or BlackPink, both groups and staffs worked hard. Every group, every idoles worked so hard in this shitty industry. I am happy when groups realised thier dreams like BTS. So now it's a problem when others wanna do it ? Before BTS success in the US, big american agencies doesnt care about kpop groups, I am greatfull. But moking others groups like that, it's not ok. The avengers of kpop it is their concep, a partnership with Marvel and super powers. I love Jopping and Superm. And the song We Do is a parterniship with Prudencia, so stop putting your narrative. It was for a campaign for young health.

[@jmsl0ver]

It is that the problem is not that they cannot fulfill their dreams we all know that they all strive and deserve to succeed in their projects as bts, the real problem here is when they put them under the pseudonym "the next bts" And who calls them that? Yes, their own companies this is only their fault, that instead of giving them a merit of their own, they put them under this term so that they are under constant comparisons like these , well be their lyrics, their concepts, all because from the beginning they decided to put them under the shadow of another group.

[@parkpark6976]

@@jmsl0ver YG never said the next bts Because they were a girl group and at that time they were the most successful girl group in the world. YG is not stupid to use girl groups to compare boy groups. that article was from western media.

[@-amel-9896]

U clearly did not watch the video entirely at all since u didn't refute anything she said in ur whole paragraph. She never said kpop idols don't work hard at all, she just said labels are prioritizing visuals and concepts over music, and constantly replicating BTS's moves and that's why they are failing. She even made a whole part explaining how to technically be the next BTS, and that by finding your own unique artistic identity and not to try to be like BTS.

[@mamejoe2043]

@@-amel-9896exactly

[@cristin3719]

Yes

[@evilman6761]

BTS has done a huge thing for K-POP, but the world doesn't revolve around BTS, everyone goes their own way. The Army fandom is struck by an inferiority complex since they humiliate other groups. It would be better if they took an example from their humble and cultured idols.

[@jmsl0ver]

Obviously the world does not revolve around bts other groups may succeed equally no one prevents them, that is not the issue, here we discuss the term "the next bts" and this was not created by the armys this was created by the media and the companies of their favorite groups, Their own companies look for their groups to be humiliated and compared putting them under the shadow of another group instead of giving them their own merit.

[@mamejoe2043]

@@jmsl0verthat it you just said my mind

[@the4queens]

Fact : BTS is next to blackpink

[@theresamaskill740]

Ya weird but look at them now all that struggles and hustlin it paid off

[@theresamaskill740]

Another evening BP came out first BP couldn't do what BTS did or has done so