The Nissan Leaf | full test | review

This is a the big test, is it possible to live with the electric car and can you really drive on motorways with the new Leaf?

[@ram64man]

Folks as a second hand leaf owner, it's a bit of a mistamena to think battery's last only 8 years, my 4 year old leaf has still 92% of its original range! and does a daily night hours round trip of 66 miles motorway and town without recharging without any problems. A leaf is ideal for daily or every other day town driving as it keeps the battery in good condition so is not ideal for someone who drives once or twice a week. B mode works best for regen but only really shows any real gains once the battery has depleted two bars. Performance is about the same as a 1.6 110 desiel,

[@BobFlavinVideo]

So how much of your battery will be left after 8 years 80%, 50%? That's the trouble, depending on how you use and charge the car will be a big factor in the lifespan and I'm sure replacement batteries will be a big price. There are 30-40 year old cars out there that still do the same range as the did when they were built.

[@toyotaprius79]

Bob Flavin In hot climates like the Southern US such as Southern California and blistering Arizona, 2011 and 2012 LEAFs would suffer and experience between 60% or 70% charge after 8 to 10 years. The reason for this is that the LEAF doens't have battery cooling and it's the only EV not to do so, also, battery ageing is enhanced dramatically with high operating temperatures (over 40C for weeks). In temperate climates like Nothern Europe, battery life is expected to perform much better in the long run, at the very least of holding 80% of its original capacity after 10 years. Now that Nissan is now producing a new kind of batch of batteries, they would be able to stand better to heat from long and hot summers and frequent rapid charging. That will help life longevity because heat is a big problem for batteries, which is why the cells in your laptop bake and last only 4 years. insideevs.com/breaking-nissan-prices-leaf-battery-replacement-5499-new-packs-heat-durable/ The price of these batteries will continue to decrease, 8% per year. For the average life of the car, 10 to 15 years, the price of a new pack now would be considerably less. It only took them 4 to 5 years to reduce the price almost by half to $270/kWh. And by then Nissan and Renault would offer a new battery chemistry that is more enrgy dense (due around 2016) which is good news for anyone renting a Renault Z.E battery. This basically allows backward compatability. So to answer your question, a dedicated owner could keep the electric car he or she bought for many decades. A good majority of them, like many car owners would move on with a new car after ten or fifteen years of owning it.

[@Miniorpernik]

+toyotaprius79 Totally sold it to me!Plus it is after all one of the cheap so to speak EVs out there!

[@Jamesandkate]

Bob, as a leaf owner with heated seats, and steering wheel. With these turned on it makes no difference to the range at all. The aircon and the heater do however. If you popped it in to B instead of D you would be getting more brake regen. Good review though as always

[@MobinMGreen]

99.99% of all car accidents happens to drives without the driving gloves. So you see the importance of driving gloves. its just a fact, LOL.

[@ceez1]

You want to gain energy while braking then you need to put the gear into the "B" gear not "D". The B is for regenerative braking so that the cars computer will generate more energy from braking.

[@BobFlavinVideo]

True but B feels like putting on the brakes unless you are going sharply downhill

[@FloydFlannigan]

Bob Flavin B for engine breaking

[@hommebizzare]

I don't understand, did he complaint it doesn't generate enough energy when he brakes? Does he expect it to generate more than the kinetic energy?

[@eireboy100]

I've only seen one charging point around and it's in bettystown and there is always a normal powered car parked in it, I'd imagine it would hard to get a charging point in a busier area when people just don't give a shit what designated spots are for namely disabled parking.

[@toyotaprius79]

Go to Dundrum. There's always something parked there. I've seen one LEAF charging there, but the cord was stretched around as the car was not beside the post because a normal one was. Those stations, the green 3kW - 22kW ones aren't that busy or practical (not until the Renault Zoe, Smart ForTwo EV or Tesla Model S arrives), but they're needed, especially if someone planned to charge up for a while and then finds an Audi in the space. Still, most EV drivers charge at home or get a quick charge on the return journey. It's far more convenient. It's all about position of the chargers, especially in carparks. It's said to be best to put them in an undesirable space like at the far end of a car park and not by the entrance doors so drivers in a diesel, petrol or hybrid won't take advantage of them.

[@eireboy100]

toyotaprius79 They'll probably need to create there own ar parks just for EV just to get a guaranteed spot for charging, (can't see that happening) or you could just park in front of what ever is in the charging spot.

[@toyotaprius79]

eireboy100 That's called "Musking". That's an aggressive approach to that or what's called "ICE-ing". There are methods of going around this. Fines is one of them. As I said, make the charging places undesirable enough for it to not be taken advantage of, but that would only help the issue of new chargers. A third would be surveillance. On ESB's facebook page, I remember they told about two new charging stations in the indoor carpark of the Dundrum Shopping Centre. Those would be monitored much easily by security staff compared to on-street parking.

[@BobFlavinVideo]

toyotaprius79 eireboy100 I had the same problem over the week. cars taking up the spaces I need. The other thing is, I had to pay for parking along with electricity, #doublewhammy

[@ram64man]

Hello andrej, my round trip is 74 miles and still have a couple of bars remaining traveling 55-65 most of the time. 40 % motorway the rest country B roads. Alas we still lack that elusive 100 mile real world range, so I highly recommend you give the bmw i3 rex a look as it will really cut your fuel bill, as me and a friend did an extended loan for a day and covered 130 miles motorway, with about two litres left in the tank ( it's a very small tank) and it really is fun to drive. Charging I use a combination depending on when I get in drained completely over a 3kw takes 8 hours, but newer leafs with the optional 7kw do it in less than 4hours. I often rapid charge at the local nissan on the way in which takes about 25 mins to 80% then finish at home in just over an hour

[@ram64man]

In regards to the battery the rental option if your really worried about life of the battery is a good bet, but if you keep the car. More than 5 years it's cheaper to buy the car outright. There's a little conflicting info about the battery's when you get a rental version, but the only true difference is in the door it's stamped with battery rental. Nissan say regardless of which option you choose the battery says with the life of the car yet with the rental option of it falls below 80 you get a new or reconditioned battery. I look at it this way I've done just under 12000 miles in a year that has cost me a grand total of 1100 gbp (plus free rapid charging) to the same in A petrol would gave cost about 4700 if you add servicing on top your looking closer to 5700 difference.

[@8Sir4Sam5]

For what it is, it's a solid car which, for a strictly "here and around town" type driver, is perfect for daily use. Maybe even for some city drivers. But for everyone else, electric cars still have a long way to go. I think Chevy had the right idea with the Volt, but messed up by putting the price far out of reach of any potential buyers.

[@BobFlavinVideo]

The Opel Amprea has the same problem here, it's about the same price as a 5 Series!

[@manoman0]

Bob Flavin But it's a far more advanced car than a 5-series.

[@addonisryan]

The Volt is nothing more than a plug in hybrid,a band-aid on a 12 inch gash. it is just a me too, product, not a true electric vehicle. GM DIDN'T HAVE THE COJONES TO GO ALL THE WAY! For some people it takes too much discipline to own an all electric vehicle.Some are too spoiled to exercise self control on the highways. This happens a lot here on Long Island.I love my LEAF .Yes I would like more range, but I am adjusting my driving style and learning how to get the most out of my car. Instead of wasteful driving here there and everyehere,I plan my trips,instead of driving wastefully, I pay attention to the pace of traffic, try to stay with it and instead of slamming on the brakes (except in emergencies) I regenerate by coasting and using eco mode. if I decide I want to have fun, I charge all the way up and switch between eco and D . This works well for me.plus it's a NISSAN it will always be more reliable than the CHEVY.

[@MrGusisawesome]

So bob, would you buy an electric car yet or do you think they still have a long way to go? I'm driven a BMW i3 and that was superb but I think the biggest barrier to electric cars is confidence. What if you got stuck in a jam or in a remote location etc.

[@BobFlavinVideo]

Yes I would, it would work well as the shopping cart car for dropping the kids to school and all that but I wouldn't if it's to be the only car in the household not unless I did very small mileage in the year

[@KingEden]

"get off the phone "? cause he was driving ? talking on the phone and driving distracts attention yes , but shooting a video and driving doesn't? LOL u were more distracted than any guy who uses a phone

[@edstar83]

I hope that you don't talk to passengers in the car while you drive, He was talking to the camera as if it were a person. Not the same as holding onto a phone while driving with one hand and blocking your peripheral vision.

[@ajay60610]

Kind of confused...how long does it take to fully charge this car[assuming battery is at zero] for the following: 1] Fast charge station 2] At home standard charge.......did you say 3 hours? Thanks.

[@Jagdtoq]

The short range is a problem because it takes so long to recharge. I would say 200 mile range is a minimum to get most people to change to electric.

[@ThePkeys]

the car has a 12V battery that feeds everything except the aircon and heater and obviously the drive, the 12V is charged when the car is charged up so lights on etc do not effect the range :-)

[@HemantGiri]

i have a wired question what if its Reining heavy can we put in the power what if water goes it when we open the cap and try to put in when it rain hard do we get shock.....?

[@ram64man]

Hello bob on battery life it's an interesting question at 92 % after 4 years (I have one of the first uk imported models apparently ) in the time I've had her the cars battery has degraded just 2%, and suspect that because how I drive daily helps keep the battery in good condition. I suspect the battery will still have over 85% of life after 8 years, eg 2 bars which is still over nissans auto replacement level I suspect that when I do trade in it will be dealer scraped because of age. but given the battery is modular, the dealer could if they wanted, swap out fault moduals extending life further.

[@Borkeman06]

a bit counter intuitive having the reverse function as a lever u push forward, not backwards

[@iantownsend5480]

Great review Bob, I'm not really a fan of electric cars but I do like the Leaf, it's well made, nice to drive & nice to be in, any plans on doing a test of the i3 BMW

[@madman101techno]

Another great video Bob!

[@BobFlavinVideo]

Thank you!

[@xchopp]

Nice review indeed -- but liked for the "Get off the phone!"

[@Pektus224]

How long is the charging time in public charging around ireland?

[@toyotaprius79]

How long was the quick charge, Bob? They're sometimes as quick as less than 10 minutes with some charge left in the battery, which is not enough time to appreciate a coffee. Ques are already common at those stations. The B mode increases the regenerative braking or deceleration. Some of the more experienced EV drivers would cycle between B, D and N. They use N or Neutral on the motorways, it's just a simple switch basically but it allows the car to glide on the motorway nicely instead of keeping the foot on the throttle to not decelerate which is bad for efficient coasting. They would then switch back to D or B when accelerating or getting off the motorway to slow down. Thirdly, that thing should really be called a Granny Cable! I should start referring it to that! Far better than the Trickle Charge.

[@BobFlavinVideo]

I found that quick charging took about 45-55 mins for 95%, it never changed to 100% on a quick charge. The different modes are good but in reality I spent most time in D with eco on, the driving was just more comfortable. Granny cable is copyright :D

[@toyotaprius79]

Bob Flavin 95%? I bet you would've heard from Nissan that it should do it in 30 minutes or less. The industry standard for a quick charge is 0% - 80%. It takes far longer to charge up that last 20%. The battery becomes less efficient at accepting charge and produces more heat as resistance increases. The computer dials back off the current to not overheat the battery so the charging speed drops dramatically from 50kWh at those stations to as low as 3kWh or 16amps as it crawls up to 100%.

[@IPete2]

The chargers and the car lock the cable in place, until charging or the driver releases the cable.

[@scoutniagara]

Check where and how many EVSE stations are near where you are.... there are a lot more stations around than I would have thought.

[@MaroonLoto]

Thanks for the review! It certainly helped me on my search for the right electric car. But one little thing that really bothered me... your microphone needs a serious upgrade! It sounds very mumbled and dull, quite hard for me to follow, especially as a non native-speaker.

[@ram64man]

As time moves on with battery technology and we see true density enabling us to do 200 mile ranges we won't be so concerned with battery degration, but at this tine were still early days, I admit when I first started I did have range anxiety but you get used to it, this car isn't for everyone I admit and road warriors I would still recommend a diesel. But if you have a fast charger on your route your laughing all the way to the bank, this is a city car and goes against cleos and golfs, and honda fits market wise, but get over the notion of it being a milk float with a badge they are a good runaround car or suburban commuter with sub 40 miles one wAy at motorway speeds, all I can say is give it a test drive you may suppris your self and like it.

[@liamfagan5452]

Great review of the Leaf Bob! :)

[@SirLoinOfsteak85]

My big issue with the Leaf and cars like it is what will be it worth in say...8 years when all the batteries need replacing? How eco friendly will THAT be? Renault have you rent the batteries with the Fluence which currently costs a MINIMUM of £70 per month, that's assuming you do no miles. If you spend any kind of time in it, that price rises to £113 per month which makes it...basically the same cost if not more as owning a petrol with the added range anxiety... I sat in a Tesla S today and it's a nice car - for me that's the way forward for electric, because it's kind of a geek's luxury car. Still wouldn't want one though... So filling up, cheap, maintaining the car over time, much less cheap...

[@toyotaprius79]

That old wives tale has been going on since 2004 with the Prius and has been debunked countless of times! The batteries last more than 8 years. They last as long as the life of the car itself which is a nice way of saying 15 years or more. Nissan and Renault has invested billions and 6 years or research into EVs, they make their own batteries. If the batteries magically needed replacing as you said and many others said that will happen right after the warranty expires, then I wouldn't think they would bother even bringing it onto the market! Batteries that are found in a phone or laptop which can experience very harsh and hot working lives or unreliable Lead-acid 12v batteries that are found in your car are not the same as those found in these cars. There's still some understanding that's need to be done here. Batteries are commonly arranged in series or like Christmas Lights. While batteries can underperform over time which is known as capacity loss, that's because one of the 48 modules in a Nissan LEAF is underperforming and the other 47 go with it, so those fine 47 modules only charge to the capacity that the 1 faulty module can handle the most. In a Christmas Lights scenario, if one module went out, the whole battery would go off because the whole thing is arranged in series. It's best to think of it as so: "An army only marches as fast as its slowest soldier." Modules from crashed LEAFs are already on eBay for $125. Still, Nissan says that well beyond 10 years, it should retain 80% of its capacity, and that's what they guess from charge-discharge cycle tests that are said to be too harsh on the batteries, unrealistic and pessimistic because they're obviously sped up to try and recreate the number of times needed to create 10 years of charging in a shorter period. There are older electric cars from the 1990s like the Toyota RAV4 EV and Citroen Berlingo Electrique that have no less than a 90% capacity. They have ancient NiMh and NiCd (in that order) which were once feared to have memory loss within months like the old laptops! They're still running with enthusiastic owners.

[@BobFlavinVideo]

Renting the battery seemed like a good idea at the time because the Fluence and Leaf were quite expensive to buy and there was the "risk" of a battery failing. Now the Leaf is very reasonable price it means the renting the battery is pointless and batteries don't fail.

[@toyotaprius79]

Bob Flavin Absolutely, Renault thought it would be very popular, it wasn't. So Renault and Nissan went their separate ways. It just made many hopeful buyers confused and look elsewhere. Very recently, Renault dumped its battery rental in Norway with the ZOE and Nissan skipped the battery rental scheme in Ireland and Norway despite introducing it in the UK last year. There are rumours going on that in a couple of months, Renault will offer the full price for the rest of Europe. It only seems to favour fleet owners like businesses that offer services like delivery where they know exactly how much will be paid for each month. The only advantage of this that Renault says is that it hopes it would release a brand new battery chemistry by 2016 at the earliest, which means that all of their customers that still rent the battery can pick up the better performing battery pack for free. It's far more reasonable to lease an electric car. They advance very quickly. It's only been barely 3 years since they have been on the market and electric cars can now charge faster, go farther and have already gotten cheaper.

[@AW-xv7dq]

Thinking of taking the plunge on this. I have done the prerequisite research. Tons of review videos... watched who Killed the electric car AND revenge of the electric car LOL. We already have a Dodge Caravan and we plan on using the Leaf for commuting for the wife. She has a commute of about 45km plus driving the kids to classes- another 20 km. Not much more than that is required daily. 65 km or 35 miles just to err on the side of caution. Planning on getting a used Leaf as some are being returned at the end of their lease. Dealers are letting 2011's and 2012's for about $16,000 canadian to $22,000. These have a range of 50,000 km to about 72,000 kms. The only concern I have is the battery life. Is the savings worth buying used as the battery life may have depleted? The Dodge of course will be used for long range road trips. Any thoughts? Have I missed anything? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[@Roy-qn2ie]

Bob u planning on reviewing the volvo v70?

[@nigelsinnott6034]

Pitty you cant rent electric cars on a long term basis, would really make economical sense seeing as they are so cheap to run

[@BobFlavinVideo]

They have the same problem with charging, if I was to rent it for 2 hours and then you wanted it you'd have to wait until there's one charged up to get it. Long term rent, like a week, isn't an option as people who rent cars tend to be going long distance and to places with no public transport, it's would be tow trucks galore

[@ram64man]

I agree that the info system needs a overhaul badly, but so far reliability I'm happy to report that apart from stone chip marks, a new 12v battery (like any car it doesn't like outdoor storage winter weather) and two new tires I've happily covered 38000 miles. Maintenance costs compared to my old petrol are a fraction of the cost as there's no oil or spark plugs, no engine servicing, so all you have is basically the screen wash and brakes to look at. If your thinking of Ev's I highly recommend you look at the newer 1.5 leaf (as it has a HV heater trust me a must) or the i3 rex, (which I've driven) or even the newer kia soul ev out later this year, of your communte less than miles one way you cannot go wrong with an ev.

[@AndrejGobec]

How long is your commute? What's your typical range on a charge? I want an EV but my daily commute is almost 100 miles (about 150km) and I'm afraid I'd have to charge it at work as well.

[@lovrenault]

Andrej Gobec 100 miles is too much in one go for a Leaf (like for all other EVs excepted the Tesla). Real life range is more like 80.

[@SecurityPro2704]

Andrej Gobec unless you have an employer who has installed an L2 EVSE or you have access to an L1 EVSE receptacle (110/120v 50/60 hz) the LEAF currently would not be an option for you. Even if you only have a L1 charging port available from the time you arrive at your place of work 8a-5p, the system would be able to recharge the battery almost to the point of what you used during your morning commute. The charging rate on the L1 is about 4.5 miles per hour of charging, so 9 hours charging time times 4.5 equals about 40 miles of driving charge. With that being said my morning commute is 25 miles each way and I drive on the motorways at 75mph and I barely use 25% of my battery. So driving your 50 mile commute, you'll use about 60% of the battery, with the recharging on L1 you'd be able to make it back home without a problem. With more and more L2 EVSE (Charge time drops to give you about 26 miles per hour of charging on the LEAF) and the L3 EVSE well that's the best way to quickly recharge from 0-80% of capacity in around 30min. But in your driving scenario your charging time would only be about 15min. Best thing I can suggest is to find someone you know who owns a LEAF and ask if you can borrow it for a few days to see how you like it and if it will fit your driving requirements for daily commuting. You may just surprise yourself. www.pluginamerica.org/drivers-seat/understanding-electric-vehicle-charging

[@pattoe1973]

brakes? just seen Tesla Roadster video,7years driven still all original brakepads ! deu to regenerativ braking

[@salllu]

any spare batteries?

[@DriveMyEV]

Nice explanation.

[@Leota18]

U go to your local Nissan dealer and get a quick charge.

[@Tambo74]

So what if you've got a 50 mile round trip and on the way there there's a 10 mile diversion because of an accident or roadworks therefore making your journey an extra 20 miles longer than expected and you only have a 65 mile battery range? A bit fooked up there me little friend now aren't ye?

[@Tambo74]

***** I'll tell you how, With a Normal fuel car you can at least take a Jerry can with you or buy one at a petrol station and walk to the petrol station get some gas then walk back to your car and re-fuel. With an electric car you would be stuck and have to get a tow to the nearest electrical output.

[@SecurityPro2704]

Tambo74 You get over the range anxiety very quickly after driving an EV. But the range on the LEAF can be as high as 106 mi or 170 km, but it all depends on how aggressive that you drive it. I own 2 2013 Model S LEAFs and have yet to EVER run out of charge to where I couldn't make it to my destination. With more wider adoption of EV's so there too will be more Level 3 (480v EVSE) chargers installed along motorways. The majority of your daily charging will be done overnight when your EV is parked in your garage. For MOST daily drivers the current range of the LEAF will be sufficient. For those who need a longer range car perhaps a Chevy Volt or BMW i3ER is a better solution. Keep in mind that the Tesla is capable of traveling between 205 - 265 miles depending on the model you have, Albeit in the EU there are not many of them in use.

[@pol1250]

Just stay with your last century car....otherwise someone will find you dead one day somewhere along the road without electricity!!!! There is no point in trying to convince ignorance...you will probably never get it!

[@Tambo74]

Let me just add.. if i carry a petrol can half full around with me in the boot of my car safely tucked away inside a bigger plastic container. I will always have a feul backup incase of emergency and not only can i help myself but i could also help other stranded motorists (Considering they have a petrol powered vehicle). The same cannot be said for these electric powered vehicles.. there's no backup plan and you would have to be towed away if you were stuck in the countryside etc. Also you need to constantly plug the thing in virtually every trip you make just to ensure you are topped up with power every time you drive.. which makes me laugh because i can leave my conventional combustion powered vehicle a week without even starting it up and even then i could go a trip come back and again leave it for days and forget about plugs and the anxiety of running out of battery power. Maybe just maybe in 20 years or so the will have cars as powerful as ltes say a family Volkswagen Passat 2.0 TDI with a battery range of 350+ miles.. then i would consider it.. but until then.. YOU can be the guinea pigs

[@pol1250]

Tambo74 Like I said: You will never get it !! NEVER!!!!

[@Ecoenergy]

Bring on part 2 with what happened next.

[@BobFlavinVideo]

I drove it around and it went back, it was just like a petrol car with a small fuel tank

[@seinsmeld13]

Too expensive. With fuel in Canada half your rate these will never be popular. I don't believe these will ever be a common vehicle. Too many limitations for the average driver.

[@ericgeorge5483]

I was about to buy one of these only to discover that you have to lease the battery (for more money than I spend on diesel per month) and now you have to pay to charge them up in town car parks. Fucking waste of time, I will stick with diesel when I make my new purchase.

[@nutjob555]

9:20 wow... 153.9 for petrol and 145.9 for diesel. Bit cheaper now thankfully.

[@BobFlavinVideo]

It's weird when you see the prices over time, it's going up soon

[@Nakke144]

But what if some douchebag decides to play you a prank and disconnects the charger while you are gone?

[@lovrenault]

On the latest Leaf (the one tested), you can lock the cable in position. For the earlier models, you can add a good old fashion padlock (I've done that, it works perfectly)

[@chriswanderer90]

then you catch the douche, and shock him with a taser.

[@themadplotter]

1:43 cracks me up.

[@peterlewis3540]

Let's get real, until electric vehicles return realistic distances of 400+ miles on a single charge then they will never receive mass appeal. The technology currently is too expensive resulting in high purchase cost to the consumer. In a survey conducted by What Car magazine, more Ferraris were registered for Uk roads in 2013 than Nissan sold their Leaf. I am sure in years to come electric vehicles will be a common sight on our roads, but the sensible consumer will invest in a VW Golf Tdi than a Leaf, at least you can travel big distances in all weather without the worry of running out of fuel.

[@zkambov]

Peter Lewis supercars and V8s get around 200km from 70 litre tank so this is acceptable from electric cars

[@pol1250]

EVs are great !!! But most people are affraid of this technology because they know shit about it!! Sometimes when I try to explain the concept to some people I feel like in the middleage ...where people got burned alife because they knew how to read!!! It is so disappointing......EV cars work great what we need is better education !!! It is impossible to convince ignorance...so we educated people should think for them!

[@ThePkeys]

four years on from your comment its still the same mass ignorance! but you know i quite like that in a way because if everyone changed then the Gov would need to get the lost revenue another way so I'm happy to drive economically and eco friendly and let the ignorant masses pay my way

[@JamesShelnutt]

not very practical with super high insurance premiums

[@msul78]

6:36 Wow! a woman in a Ford Focus with driving gloves. How hot is that!

[@manuwebmb]

GET OFF THE PHONE!!!SO IT SAYS SOMEONE DRIVING FILMING HIMSELF ON CAM....MORE TALK ABOUT THE CAR FEATURES AND LESS STUPID TALK WOULD BE MUCH BETTER MATE

[@BobFlavinVideo]

+manuwebmb the camera is hands free. This review is years old, watch something more current....MATE

[@AlanFrance21]

+Bob Flavin Good review, but be fair Bob, when you are looking at the camera and talking the amount of time you have to when recording on the move, you are driving without your full attention on the road - in fact your attention is not much better than someone on a mobile phone while driving, because it's your attention being elsewhere that's the real problem, not the holding of a handset. If you had an accident when doing this, you would probably be prosecuted. This is not just me - the police have successfully nicked drivers for eating a choc-bar or fruit while stopped at the lights, let alone whizzing along the Queen's highway! Bagging a KZbin personality would make an officer's day. As to charging, a 7 kw charger, which is not mega bucks to have at home, will 'fill' your Leaf in 4 hours, even with the new 30kwh batteries. A bit of planning will mean that most of your charging can be in silent hours on cheap rate.

[@BobFlavinVideo]

+belson alan I most certainly wasn't on any queens highway. I'm not in the UK. Perhaps you should look at some of your own views toward your fellow human, judging by your comments on the Google + page you wouldn't like me anyway.

[@davidryan4053]

Great idea but ugly car