The Nissan Z is a 90s Sports Car in 2024!

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@anotheran 4 ай бұрын

Enthusiasts complain all the old true sports cars are behind them, resale prices are crazy, and just want car makers to remake old cars. And here we are with an old car made again.

@Realistick 4 ай бұрын

I think people tend to be negative, and I understand why, but there are still some great options with newer bones than the Z. This is probably the sports car I’d buy if I was looking to modify!

@anotheran 4 ай бұрын

@@RealistickI think ppl who want this kind of car should go buy it. But theyre not going to unless it's fully depreciated

@twoswords4318 4 ай бұрын

@@anotheran 52k MSRP.... 42k for the base? LSD locked behind 10k? The pricing is why I personally didn't trade in my 370 for this, 52k for an impractical 2 seater? Even though the Q60 redsport doesn't have a manual option, it does have AWD with the same engine albeit with the older and slow 7 speed auto. A used good example Q60 RS with AWD can go for around 28-40k.

@DMN3901 4 ай бұрын

@@twoswords4318 Yeah I remember seeing the base 370's new for probably 15k less, if not even more than that. I actually considered it back then but never pulled the trigger.

@waitingforcivictyper 4 ай бұрын

The base model doesn’t even get a limited slip diff … it’s inexcusable

@BigHeadClan 4 ай бұрын

It’s unfortunate but you can get one installed for like $1500.

@tragicnomadic 4 ай бұрын

It's excusable. I think Nissan bet that if you wanted to modify the car you'll put your own stuff in it too and if you don't. Buy the performance

@SamSayaz 4 ай бұрын

Left open so you can weld it 😉

@BigHeadClan 4 ай бұрын

@@tragicnomadic If the performance package was 3-5K over base absolutely I’d give them a pass, but 10K to get what should be standard features on a car that ships with 400HP just doesn’t fly with perspective buyers. The only ones who really wouldn’t care are those who plan to do a lot of tuning from the get go.

@CruiseControl1 4 ай бұрын

My first car was a 79 280zx followed by a 76 280z. I love the styling of this new Z, however the weight really holds it back. I test drove one when I was shopping for a new sports car and liked the driving dynamics of the GR86 over the new Z by far. So I bought a 22 Neptune blue GR86. Eventually sold the GR86 and now I have a project 91 na Miata. I hope the next gen Z gets its own platform and can drop a few hundred pounds.

@ShenmueAtheist 4 ай бұрын

A lot of the lower 0-60 and some of the twitchiness you described has to do with the base model having no LSD. People really discount how much an LSD improves grip in turns and off the line acceleration. I think installing an LSD is a must if you get the Sport model (aka the base model). It's a lot cheaper too than paying an extra 10k for the Performance trim, and WAAAY cheaper than paying 25k more for a Nismo.

@Realistick 4 ай бұрын

I think id personally go that route too. This car seems to be best bought as a blank canvas for mods. Maybe a decent sports touring car with the performance grade…

@joby602 4 ай бұрын

Damping and dampers, not dampening and dampeners. Unless it's raining maybe. Another great review!

@citrusjuicebox 4 ай бұрын

Nailed it! Matched my sentiments pretty much exactly. Prices are coming down too, so it's not too hard to find a Sport close to 40k and Performance under 50k. I saw one dealer discount a new Sport to something like 38k. Pretty wild value at those kinds of prices!

@emilio.squats8919 2 ай бұрын

Watching this as I head to a dealer that has it at 38k

@citrusjuicebox 2 ай бұрын

@@emilio.squats8919 just took home my Performance today 49k

@paulgemperlein626 3 ай бұрын

I'll be interested to hear your take on whatever the Prelude ends up being when it goes into production. Seems like it has potential to be a fun/cheap little thing

@Realistick 3 ай бұрын

It has some serious potential, I’m really hoping it’s not just a Civic hybrid coupe. If it has a manual, I’d have a hard time not buying one as a daily! Though I’m excited either way.

@MK3504 4 ай бұрын

Really is the weight that holds this car imo. Shane they haven't been profitable for years because if they were profitable i have no doubt they would make extremely competitive cars. Unfortunately they dont have the budget to do anything great by using a sedan chassis for a sports car. Shaving 2-300 lbs woudl do wonders.

@wholeNwon 4 ай бұрын

A 280Z was the second car I ever owned so many years ago. It was a lot of fun then but I'm sure it would feel like an antique now. I certainly won't try to recapture my youth with the new Z. Good review though...as always.

@tragicnomadic 4 ай бұрын

Everyone can knock the FM chassis but when it came out it was putting heat on the e46. And Nissan is literally (made up) 10th the size of bmw. And Nissan does what Nissan does. The gave us a new Z and it isn't complicated to operate or heavy with tech and stuff you don't need. This Z falls in line with every new z from the 80s.its not cheap it's not the best. It is what it is. And it's pretty special for that and yes I agree. I think Nissan assumes guys will modify the car..

@X-21-d8l 2 ай бұрын

The Z honors its heritage. It is authentic and does not purport to be something that it is not. Take a look at used BMWs. There is a reason why they are so cheap. Comparing the Supra and the Z is not the correct comparison. The Supra is not JDM. BMW generally has made fast, well performing cars but you wouldn’t want one after the lease is over or the warranty runs out. The Supra is actually a parts bin BMW. The exterior is not good and lacks cohesion in its design. The interior is cramped, vision is very limited and the steering wheel is laughable. The Z is set up to be more of a sport-tourer out of the box. It’s plenty fast to get into trouble, it’s beautiful to look at, it has a very good manual and with reasonable care, you can hold onto and enjoy it for a long time to come.

@paulgemperlein626 3 ай бұрын

Hoosier here, that Carmel comment is too real lmao

@SolidShip 4 ай бұрын

My fair lady❤

@genzigzag 4 ай бұрын

All this chasing horsepower, adding weight and mechanical complexity. I would have love to have seen this car with the 3.7 V6 and weighing over 200lbs less. Love the styling, especially the new heritage edition front bumper.

@DocZedMoto Ай бұрын

Is it just me... or does 3,500 lbs for this Z seem just WAAAAAYYY overweight? It's a V6, 2 Door, 2 Seat Hatch RWD Coupe. Not V8. Not 4 Door. Not 4 / 5 seats. Not AWD / 4x4. So what gives? No reason for this car to weigh in at over 2,900 lbs stock.

@KeithSchwerin 4 ай бұрын

21+yr old platform with a 8-9yr old engine. I had really hoped that Nissan would have given the VR30 a revision before putting it into the Z. The fact that a mild tune will get 440-450 from it but NISMO only got 420 says a lot about how much Nissan cares anymore.

@hartsickdisciple 4 ай бұрын

It's not a 21 year-old platform. It's a revised version of a 15 year-old platform. 370z and 350z weren't built on the same platform. 350z was built on FM gen 1, and 370z was built on FM gen 2. 370z had a substantially shorter wheelbase, which is shared with the new Z. The bottom line is that the car is solid, fun to drive, and looks great. It really doesn't matter how old the components are.

@Realistick 4 ай бұрын

FM2 was still a heavily revised FM1 platform though, no? I don’t think old bones are the issue, I think they could have done a much better job of bringing the pieces together and dialing them in for the new car.

@hartsickdisciple 4 ай бұрын

@@Realistick You're entitled to your opinion. I think they nailed it.

@KeithSchwerin 4 ай бұрын

@@hartsickdisciple that's like trying to argue the 2004 Terminator isn't on the same platform as the '79 Foxbody. Sure they are "revised" but they all carry the same old problems forward. Biggest one I've heard is brake cooling still sucks and is completely unaddressed. The FM has been revised but it's bones are still the same platform it's been since 2001.

@KeithSchwerin 4 ай бұрын

@@hartsickdisciple every reviewer says the same thing. It handles to sloppy and the NISMO is how it should have been. Also 400hp and 40+k with no LSD is totally unacceptable in a performance car. I used to love Nissan but they are just cheap and lazy now. Even NISMO stuff is way over priced for what they add to it.

@seb5945 4 ай бұрын

It's so un-new that 370Z seems more tempting to me - hydraulic steering, lightness, port-injection, less expensive. Unless you gotta have turbo and apple car play.

@Realistick 4 ай бұрын

I don't have much of an issue with the age of the platform, more so that the old Z cars (I've only reviewed the 350z) felt like all of the components worked together better.

@BPEKSupraInteractive 4 ай бұрын

What app do you use for your performance report at 5:40?

@jbandt 4 ай бұрын

Love the styling of this car. Maybe I'm getting old, but it seems nissan went a little too far with this generation z, and the price reflects that. 300 to maybe 350 horse would have been plenty. Shed a couple hundred lbs and make it a fun good handling roadster. Not an over powered rocket ship.

@normaninsandiego7061 4 ай бұрын

I hope you enjoyed your visit to California. It is hard to decide which car to get, maybe one of each. 😊

@Realistick 4 ай бұрын

Thanks, it was great as usual! I’ll have to get to saving then🤕

@bigRed90 4 ай бұрын

I would spend my well earned money on that. I like it. Maybe it’s the nostalgia.

@Unicornpirate 3 ай бұрын

Save it and get the 370z. Its the same chassis but lighter. And if you wanna boost, it has a better motor for it than this.

@nobass_stub1394 4 ай бұрын

SavageGeese had a similar feeling about the car, how the didnt quite hit all the right marks for a (air quotes) Budget Drivers sports car

@BitcoinTo150K 4 ай бұрын

It’s unfortunate you won’t be testing a SS1LE the most capable track focused vehicle under $50k

@braisedtoast9002 4 ай бұрын

Pig fat atrocious vehicle.

@braisedtoast9002 4 ай бұрын

It's too heavy.

@tragicnomadic 4 ай бұрын

Only Nissan more reliable I'd believe is the frontier (d41 owner too) but also.. They didn't change alot of the mechanicals

@wackit6756 4 ай бұрын

Beautiful on the outside….looks really old and cheap on the inside side. ☹️

@keithjackson4985 3 ай бұрын

This thing sounds pretty half-baked? I like the look of it, but I'm not interested in paying for old technology, at a new car price.

@v12kingV10 4 ай бұрын

It’s great Nissan makes coupes for enthusiasts. Honda gave up

@toddsmith8608 4 ай бұрын

@BB2001hjk I wonder what the new Prelude will bring to the table.

@v12kingV10 4 ай бұрын

@@toddsmith8608 nothing. sounds like it’s fwd civic with prelude badges and the same 200hp engine. So 2001

@rubberwoody 3 ай бұрын

probably because the platform is from 1999!

@nintense1 4 ай бұрын

I think it’s crazy that people don’t buy them. I saw very few since the release. Sure they are a bit overpriced, but with such a niche market it’s unbelievable. I’d take this over the Supra manual any day, and probably over the mustang if I’d keep it for long time. I think it’s just got lost at the sea of garbage that Nissan made in the last 10 years.

@toddsmith8608 4 ай бұрын

@nintense1 I like the exterior looks, but as you said, it's overpriced in a niche market. Plenty of other capable options (you mentioned two) and some are cheaper.

@Realistick 4 ай бұрын

It’s just a polarizing car, I think they’ll be sought after used but it doesn’t feel very dialed in out of the box. Like Nissan grabbed a bunch of different parts and an old chassis to make it, but then didn’t take the extra time to get the fine tuning right. Some really good sides to it but most new car buyers want something a little more polished in my opinion. Not like the Supra sells well either though…

@nintense1 4 ай бұрын

@@Realistick it’s basically the only Japanese sports car other than the 86 and the Miata with a RWD, the other two are great but cater to different market. I do see more Supra in SoCal, but probably many of them sold during the craze of the pandemic with crazy markup. The Z came a year too late. Hopefully they won’t kill it.

@mariner3485 4 ай бұрын

The 240Z was based on the Ferrari 250 GTO. I read a kit car review once that said the windshield glass from a 240Z was nearly identical to the original Ferrari's. Each new iteration of the Z got bigger and heavier, in part to overcome the emissions regulations of the day. Nowadays, a rearwheel drive car that heavy just doesn't interest me, and the 'old' cars like the 240Z (and '60's Mustangs/Cobras/etc) just aren't as safe as today's cars. AND I'm spoiled by things like power windows/doors & heated seats! (and air bags!) We truly are living in a great time to be a car enthusiast! (and Volvo just reversed course on EV's! LOL)

@KidNato 4 ай бұрын

Incorrect, but it's fun to pretend.