The Non Board Gamer | Board Gamer Stereotypes

People still play board games? There's other tabletop board games aside from Monopoly? What even is a card sleeve? Where do you even find all these board games to play for game night? Board game hobbyists can sometimes forget what it's like for players who aren't aware of the hobby, who may have never seen board games with so many pieces and complicated words on how to play with just so much to read!
The non board gamer might equate board games to kids toy games and never realize the price of board games and limited edition kickstarter exclusives. Any hobby has its collectibles and exclusives after all, and who would've guessed that some out of print cardboard and components could be so expensive? Probably why the non board gamer might end up getting cheeto dust on their fingers and rubbing them all over your cards.
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[@TheKartana]

I hate when people say they will learn as they play, then complain about not knowing all of the rules

[@NotOnTask]

I actually do prefer to learn as I go, but I don't get annoyed if something comes up later, because I understand that is going to happen and I don't care if I win the first time I play something. I know the video makes fun of it, but having a 30 min rule presentation before we start is basically useless for me, I have do stuff to get it in my brain.

[@coryk2521]

Yes my god, every time I try to teach my parents a game it happens.

[@licotto]

@@NotOnTask or you could watch a video in your free time before game night so you're at least familiar with it 😌🤔

[@Magicman1625]

Couldn't agree more

[@ScytheNoire]

This was very traumatic. There should have been a warning at the beginning of the video.

[@tyjcol18880]

‘Relax dude it’s just a board game. Aren’t these like 10 bucks?’ *Triggered HARD*

[@MyFunnyVids888]

*heavy breathing*

[@QuantumCuttlefish]

*blood boiling*

[@DerArtikus]

Pulls out any hexagon-tile --> "Thats just like Catan"

[@wyburp7970]

there's also the "yeah! i'm into boardgames!" and they either pull out catan, werewolves or cards against humanity.

[@jknifgijdfui]

They are good tho

[@T0rinoob]

When i see cards against humanity, oof there goes my soul.

[@jknifgijdfui]

@@T0rinoob only true issue with cah depends on the group u playing with

[@T0rinoob]

@@jknifgijdfui If the group i am playing with is good i am sure there are plenty of better games than CAH that will further enhance the time spent. CAH is just 1 time novelty game that honestly gets tiring with incredibly edgy jokes. Perhaps i just don't enjoy circle jerking games. To each his own i suppose!

[@EmilioRodo]

They're all perfectly good games. I mean, I'd rather stare at a wall than play werewolf, but that's just my taste.

[@Robstalobsta82]

lmao the bending of the dominion cards literally made me squirm

[@Shelfside]

I couldn't bring myself to do it unless it was with the blank cards :) -Ashton

[@keiths81ca]

@@Shelfside thank you for putting me at ease

[@commandercaptain4664]

Games that require tearing up cards... 😱

[@Shelfside]

@@commandercaptain4664 pandemic legacy was so hard to tear up the cards at first gaaah

[@revimfadli4666]

No wonder WotC went as far as to make and patent those plastic core cards

[@danielkeim8558]

The flamin hot cheetos part KILLED me

[@AED365]

My worst nightmare. That and things that smell like pickle juice, ketchup, ranch, etc.

[@KennyattheBell]

I got an idea, do one about a super competitive player who doesn't understand how to play co-op board games. "What do you mean if you lose we all lose? If you lose I should win!" "A team based game? Ok I'll be on a team by myself then."

[@kazetokumo]

Wow you met that kind of player? All super competitive player that I know would just not play coop games.

[@ObjectingRevolver]

The cheetos and water one hurt. A lot

[@markalexandermaron5531]

That is why it is important to have simple gateway games that play quickly as a litmus test if a new player will be invited back to the next session. My friend was like "this on mars looks pretty cool!" and i immediately said "NO! You aint ready for that!"

[@XTCyan]

Lol @ On Mars... Yeah no one needs to earn the right for me to play a $150 board game with them 😆

[@saudipanda]

You forgot the person who just 'leaves' to do something 'better' on an arranged play time meet up.

[@commandercaptain4664]

5:33 is close enough.

[@johnathankokoski]

🤣🤣 the cheetos and card bending hurt me

[@DandyFinance]

I picked up board games as a hobby 2 years ago. Oh boy was everyone surprised when I took the sleeved cards out for a game haha! I think "Is it laminated?" is a mandatory question to ask!

[@Shelfside]

people get so surprised, and its super entertaining to watch them oogle over the sleeves x) -Ashton

[@Physiology-E-Paathshala]

Oily hands are a game connoisseur's worst nightmare🤣

[@janamiller273]

When it got to the “learn as I go” part I lost it 😂. Just YESTERDAY I had this exact conversation teaching my parents Cubitos. Almost verbatim!

[@RandomPerson-nd2ey]

"The wording is kinda complicated for me." Haha... oh, that reminds me of trying to play "Deception: Murder in Hong Kong" with people who simply could not understand the most basic concepts. I sat everyone down, explained the various cards, and held each of them up as I did so. I then shuffled them and handed them out. Then someone looked at their card and asked "Wait... my card has someone holding a bloody knife. Does that mean I'm the Murderer?" I also played an *entire* 3 hour game of "Dead of Winter" with someone who didn't understand that they were the Traitor because "Well, the card said 'Betrayal' on it. I thought it was supposed to say 'Traitor' if I was the Traitor." Yes, this person spent 3 hours playing a game and looking down at that card, never realizing that *betraying* everyone meant that they were the Traitor. Another genius couldn't understand why a valuable resource in "Catan" required more than 1 much more available one... or why he couldn't sell his stuff in "Chinatown" for 10x the amount that player would gain for *all* of their stuff for the rest of the game. No, he wasn't holding it to use himself. He *never* used it. He just wanted *all* the money and didn't understand trading.

[@KZsZs]

First of all I have to say that this is a phenomenal video, one that was able to collect all my gaming nightmares into just 6,5 minutes. Good job! It was painful all the way. Also I just started to arrange a shelf of games just for this kind of person: games that are short, easy to learn/play, well-known, and also I DO NOT CARE DEEPLY for, so I do not feel offended when someone does these genuine and yet hurtfull things only a gamer can truly feel. I suggest everyone having this kind of mentality when buying games/building collection and pulling games out to play. Pick your games for the group dynamic and not for your own momentary mood. Otherwise people get hurt. I still have flashbacks to the time when I showed Cosmic Encounter to one of my groups that did not have the right mood for it. It was a massacre of patience, benevolence and general human decency. Learn from my mistake and do not offer your DARLING games for people who cannot appreciate them because of their genuine disinterest.

[@Shelfside]

ahaha thanks! Yep, I have my shelf carefully catered, and then when a non-board gamer points to a game a little bit too crazy, I quickly divert their attention to a lighter game to avoid these crazy scenarios as much as possible -Ashton

[@TheBoardDad]

I don’t know how you do it, man. All these stereo types videos are dead on. Hope you keep getting material to continue them. They’re gold!

[@dragonzord6615]

this hits too close too home. Too many times have I been invited over to play board games, bring something that I think is cool, only to be met with cards against humanity and jackbox games

[@RageBadgerGaming]

Cheeto hands is unforgiveable.

[@sergio1ner]

Its insane how much i relate to your videos.

[@danielpippin5874]

you should do the "Board game Pro" or "Board game Master" next.

[@ollenoren3358]

Lol, totally met some of these people. I personally love people who got a university education and can discuss really complicated topics but says "this is too complicated..." about midweight boardgames. (y)

[@rgocebu6036]

You guys should do the solo-gamer who bends the rules and backtracks on moves just cos they could do it. hahaha.

[@Shelfside]

Oh man, it looks like the solo gamer is gonna have its own segment at some point then ahaha -Ashton

[@piercenborchardt5224]

I love how even for the bit he can’t bring himself to touch the cards with Cheeto fingers

[@DrMcFly28]

Wow, how did you convince all my friends to star in your video?

[@Shelfside]

Craigslist is a pretty good resource, and bgg has a "players for sale" section in the market /s -Daniel

[@NightSeeker21]

Really underrated channel. Love your content and each of your uploads!

[@Shelfside]

Much appreciated!

[@MsGinahidesout]

Also, the ones who don't want all the rules and just want to "learn as they go" always come back later and say you didn't tell me that rule! LOL

[@TheHexyBeast]

that dominion bit literally made me shiver lol

[@135Pandemonium]

Alright he really really got me at the blablahblahBGG hahaha too funny!

[@tpa3437]

If you do the sore loser/rager video : abstract games, games like Quacks with lots of chance but the person rage if losing, games with blocking like Vilainous. Teaching a game to your SO and then they manage to smash you 5 times in a row.

[@Shelfside]

thanks for the ideas! Will get something like that going soon :) -Ashton

[@jonathanbicket9960]

The person just pulling out components from the box. My brother did that to a character box in JotL when I was showing it to him and I almost died.

[@Shelfside]

some people like to play as the tophat, I personally only like the thimble! -Ashton

[@MrScrawnjuan]

The Dominion cards and the Cheetos. My soul...

[@coreywardell2351]

Lol The new person stumbling their way to victory. lol too true

[@yesinup4116]

2:28 bruh I bout had an aneurism when I saw this

[@Shelfside]

Have you tried sleeving your blood vessels? -Daniel

[@sirhc8927]

Teasing with that blood rage in every God d*man scene. You knew exactly what you were doing. I’m no longer satisfied with just a Rising Sun review, I need more now. Also I know those two guys, the one who kept looking at their phone or walking away for quarter hour errands and the a**hole who kept bending out of print cards with an IP from an estate who no longer wants to make board games. (Ankh Morpork)

[@jewbotcrusher]

do the analysis paralysis person!

[@meathir4921]

2:45 okay the rest of the video is bloody hilarious and completely on point but this part is just on the guy with the collection

[@Shelfside]

ahaha true! -Ashton

[@Tamahome109]

Lol this needs an Explicit tag haha! And I love the use of Critical Role battle music (I know it's also from a game soundtrack, but I don't know which)!

[@Shelfside]

ahaha, but that might be spoilers with the tag! Didn't know kevin macleod music was in critical role! He makes fun stuff -Ashton

[@Castorshells]

The bending of the cards,,,,ahhh, it drives me nuts when people do that.

[@Shelfside]

bending, scratching, crumpling... I've seen all of these atrocities -Ashton

[@OilersHD97]

Just thought I'd say you make some fantastic (and funny) videos man. Underappreciated in terms of views because of it being such a niche community, you deserve 100,000+ on each! Cheers

[@Shelfside]

dang awesome to hear that! Got stuff coming out all the time! -Ashton

[@thecaryou]

This hurts me so much. I play with all these people.

[@Shelfside]

After playing enough board games with them they'll come around lol -Daniel

[@thecaryou]

@@Shelfside I hope so, but it has been almost 15 years so I don't have high hopes. Lucky not my only game group.

[@ScarriorIII]

I'm telling you man, Pro-gamer/strategist. We all know someone like this...unless you're me, and then its me.

[@Shelfside]

ack! we're getting something in the works for it -Ashton

[@AkmalGameAtion]

You are a Saint for even trying to play boardgames with these type of people.

[@thomasb7237]

This video is the prequel to "the Rise of Solo Gaming"

[@TheCiderDrinker]

1:45 This is literally myself and my wife all the time. It's so accurate it's scary!

[@SeanUCF]

Me too haha!

[@44zeliow]

Recently I played with someone that picked up a card by pressing his nails into the sides of the card untill the card was almost bent edge to edge.

[@Shelfside]

no. stop. STOP

[@frostytin3419]

*Holding rulebook in hand to make sure you’re doing everything right when you’re in the middle of a really great turn*

[@ethanreimund2549]

Thanks I was looking for some extra anxiety today!

[@lotusmoon2744]

Haha I was literally cringing and uncomfortable watching the cheeto fingers touching the board game components >

[@mistuhbear]

my heart can't handle this aaaaaaa

[@brixtonreyes2255]

Card Sleeves are my best friends when it comes to warding off the spilled water, cheetohs, oily fingers, etc. omens.

[@Shelfside]

you mean laminated cards? Double laminating is good to ward off ill omens

[@licotto]

Well-freaking-done!! It definitely got my game anxiety up -ESPECIALLY with the $@&#¢¶ Cheetos 😳😤☠️💥

[@AmericanCarioca]

Great job!

[@1337M347lolz]

Been watching your videos for a bit and I love that BSG poster behind you...where did you get it!?

[@Shelfside]

oh hey just saw this! I got it on amazon a couple years back, it was in a bundle set! hopefully they still have it -Ashton

[@davidfranklin5434]

"It's a sleeve? Is it, like, laminated? Why do you even do this stuff?" -- I mean, he's got a point...

[@MyFunnyVids888]

one of my biggest pet peeves with casual players is that they'll gladfully spend 2 or 3 hrs playing exclusively CAH but the minute you suggest a game that is around 2 hours long by itself they immediately get turned off saying things like "that's too long" or "sounds too complicated" despite the fact that the length of a game does not determine how complicated the actual concept and gameplay is. for example the Gibson's civilization takes around 3 hours or more due to the victory conditions and being up to 7 players but most of the game runs itself and the victory conditions are mainly very clear cut. "be the first to reach the end of the victory tracker. achieve these certain objectives to keep progressing down the tracker". I've actually been told by some people the game feels too simple

[@Shelfside]

a lot of it can be theme based, or just visual based. Like, when casual players see a bigger box, or just more things to look at, they curl up and just don't want to learn. Whereas CAH is just plain and simple gonna be throwing short cards at each other. Have had this struggle TOO many times, sometimes some simple social deduction or party game is the compromise (decrypto, hellapagos, resistance, coup, etc.) -Ashton

[@mtp234]

Sometimes we do sound a little silly to "non board gamers" with our jargon, hahaha. There are some things we can do to make ourselves more accessible, but sometimes people just aren't that into board games (and das coo').

[@Shelfside]

yep, definitely a bit of the struggle once you're SOOO into board games (definitely not me) -Ashton

[@TheHappyComeBack]

What is about the man who pretend to be a game "DESIGNER" in his behavior or... the man who thinks that he is the best in SOCIAL-DEDUCTION games so he can read the role of player just from his face, but actually not and so on...

[@Shelfside]

the armchair designer! Oh that's a good one. And we may have something with social deduction coming soon -Ashton

[@SeanUCF]

1:46-2:13 is basically word for word every time I play a game with my wife. And I had someone bridge shuffle my cards once before I started sleeving all my games and it twisted my stomach into sailor's knot.

[@Shelfside]

ahaha, I was going to include a bridge shuffling scene, but I didn't want to accidentally damage Dominion -Ashton

[@TerribleGaming90]

you nailed it

[@Shelfside]

ahaha thanks man, appreciate it :) -Ashton

[@DarthNVious]

...and this is why I only play solo...or duo with my son.

[@GrievousFrom]

The part with the cheetos scarred me.

[@Panamaniac3D]

I trembled in shock when the Cheeto hands touched the pieces. The fear was real.

[@Shelfside]

The tremors still go through my body when I rewatch that x) -Ashton

[@timd4524]

The cheeto thing was very disturbing. My God no!

[@danielreed3718]

This pained my soul.

[@christopherlarry6766]

so true for me at 1:45

[@Jesentra]

"Oh no, my Kickstarter Exculsive..."

[@Shelfside]

its ruined!!! -Ashton

[@justindubois840]

Cheetos had me second-hand cringing xD Well-played

[@Shelfside]

Big brain 1000 IQ strat is to use chopsticks for snacks getting crumbs on fingers is some neanderthal energy -Daniel

[@janamiller273]

@@Shelfside why haven’t I thought of that before?! That’s genius.

[@keiths81ca]

I was triggered by the card folding and cheesies

[@MsGinahidesout]

Ugh I hate it when people bend my cards!

[@zacharyolson8604]

This channel makes good videos. Many people are saying this!

[@sgmooijRN]

I don’t know why I do it to myself either. I study a lot for nursing school and on my breaks, I still have to use my brain for board games. I guess board gamers have obsessive personality (NO IT’S NOT OCD) and they can channel those tendencies in their plays.

[@Shelfside]

I mean, it can be pretty hard to just turn off your brain sometimes, it's really good to have an outlet where you're actively thinking! But yeah, because board games are just time consuming to learn/play/research, it can bring out the obsessive/addictive nature in us :) -Ashton

[@sgmooijRN]

@@Shelfside yeah so true! This community really attracts a certain personality because it can really be time consuming. I think it’s addictive because in the end there’s a reward system so we crave for more.

[@Shelfside]

@@sgmooijRN doesn't hurt that its a great excuse to spend time with friends + family! BUY BUY BUY :D -Ashton

[@Wallach_a]

This was side grabbingly funny. 😂

[@Shelfside]

ahaha thanks! Had a fun time making this one, had to be real careful with the cheeto dust off camera though -Ashton

[@morgaknightgames]

I am now in physical pain from cringing so hard. Thanks.

[@Cat-zc8nj]

That hot cheetos stressed me out.

[@ionalien]

lol you can still see some of the cheetos dust on the other character that's not eating

[@TableBreaker]

That's monstrous hand Hahaha

[@yourbeardlybro5887]

Perhaps I was seeing things but I believe I saw cereal marshmallows to represent Meeples lol

[@Shelfside]

oh, nope they were just meeples, enough food was used at the end :) -Ashton

[@bastianvillebro6420]

How my friends are probably......... seriously though I hate people who say we learn as we play because NO JONATHAN YOU CANT LEARN TO PLAY WAR OF THE RING AS WE GO aaargh so annoying anyways super fun vid guys great job :)

[@aidenthai563]

Vietnamese players: "yeah! let's play boardgames (and by that I mean Werewolf)." Not to bash on games like Werewolf and Uno though, they can be fun with a party, but that's generally what people wanna play when they say: "I wanna play boardgames" in Vietnam. Werewolf and Uno is pretty much the whole definition of boardgames for us (for some reason).

[@hoangminhtran1100]

It's 100% true And I hate party games

[@tannerknox9088]

This physically hurts. Here's your like and subscribe.

[@mattias9095]

Relatable

[@richardshah]

lol spot on

[@Spoutnicks]

Thanks for the cheetos segment! :D

[@Shelfside]

thanks man! It was uhh... tricky to do, both mentally and from a cleanup perspective, but I got it to work ahaha -Ashton

[@Spoutnicks]

@@Shelfside you're the best. F

[@Shelfside]

@@Spoutnicks f

[@wayner396]

A stereo type I often see is the "if I'm not winning it isn't fun" types who will whine the entire time if they're not well in the lead and the "king makers" who if they're not winning they'll sabotage the game to make sure their special candidate wins so they feel that through their actions of creating a winner they still have a hand in winning. They're my personal least favorite type of gamers to play with as they ruin the spirit of the game

[@Shelfside]

We'll find a way to work this in somewhere :) Just kind of like... the scummiest players to play with, so it'll be interesting to see what comes up during brainstorming -Ashton

[@wayner396]

@@Shelfside sounds great. You guys always make fun, funny, and great content. Can't wait to see what comes of it. 🙂

[@35raksO]

I'm still waiting for you to cover Disney Villainous!

[@Shelfside]

oh man! We don't even have it in our collection yet. We will get there! :) -Ashton

[@Shelfside]

Saw this again! Man, you have been asking for quite some time ahaha

[@0Letten0]

This felt like Francis Lite

[@Shelfside]

if that's the guy who did table flipping in MTG, I'll take that as a compliment :) -Ashton

[@imeprezime4239]

I candidate for next similar episode: "How GFs react if you beat then in board games?"

[@Shelfside]

Oh man, not even sure how I would write that one, but will be fun. Will write it down x) -Ashton

[@commandercaptain4664]

0:15 You either die a eurogame or you expand long enough to see yourself become a Monopoly variant 0:35 *Fantasy Flight has exited the chat* 0:44 Those aren't words, they're symbols aka hieroglyphs. 1:13 Well... WORKER placement, so... yeah. 😁 1:17 🤣 Oh the pain... the pain... 1:47 *learns poker as he goes... owes debts to multiple mobsters* 2:07 *wants a short game... also, wants to play Monopoly* 2:19 I dub thee KINGMAKER! 2:27 NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! 😭 2:38 Welcome to the world of Kickstarter. 2:42 Non Gamer v Collector: Dawn of HOW DO YOU PLAY THOSE GAMES??? 4:02 *cue Dies Irae* 4:16 see 2:27 5:12 Even a Monopoly owner would be enraged at this. 5:28 Yeah, now you owe me $10... geometrically... 6:28 Respect the commitment to the sketch.

[@Shelfside]

fantasy flight has exited is exactly correct -Ashton

[@remyscarvajal8719]

I hate those that eat trash while we play... Specially those with drinks on the table. Sorry man, you are banned from the table. Wanna eat?. Finish eating, then we play.

[@ShunyValdez]

How were you able to film yourself eating next to boardgames and not cry to sleep afterwards? Just watching it gave me anxiety.

[@Shelfside]

He is a man of focus, commitment, and sheer fucking will -Daniel

[@NATOnova]

It's funny because it's true

[@nikitapayne3957]

The drinker who only plays 6+ hour long games in one sitting

[@Shelfside]

ohhhh man not even sure I would compile that one ahaha. the progression of a increasingly insane playthrough? -Ashton

[@janamiller273]

@@Shelfside that would be awesome, and have them getting even drunker as they go on.

[@llotusplus9479]

I cringed when he bent the dominion cards

[@Shelfside]

not to worry, those were the extra blank cards :) -Ashton

[@pubbles3229]

Grr I hate people who are on their phones while playing

[@mabos555]

wowowowowwow... there is nothing wrong in playing solo :)

[@frankle9617]

I rly don't understand why people play solo...

[@janamiller273]

@@frankle9617 Cause I’ll want to play a game on Wednesday, and no one will play with me until Friday. Play a game EVERY day, or only once a week? Easy choice. ;)

[@Giumarchy]

Wow this whole video stressed me out 😂

[@anantafit]

4:52 graphic content warning

[@Shelfside]

x)

[@dylanjacobchin4237]

Holy shit, this makes me rage. This is the objectively worst one, and probably the best acted one.

[@Shelfside]

aha thanks man! Appreciate it :) -Ashton