The Northern Crusades Podcast

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Real Crusades History

8 жыл бұрын

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In this podcast, J Stephen Roberts and Scott Amis are joined by Dr. Andrew Latham to discuss the Northern Crusades. Topics touched on include the Wendish Crusade, the Prussian Crusade, and the Teutonic Knights.

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@johnfilkins3720
@johnfilkins3720 8 жыл бұрын
thank you Jay Steven's and Real Crusades History I just absolutely love and appreciate the videos and various topics that you cover ! Thanks a lot for the Up load .
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 8 жыл бұрын
+john filkins Thank you sir!
@johnfilkins3720
@johnfilkins3720 8 жыл бұрын
No Thank You Sir ! Lol Keep up the Great Work and Please keep them coming !!!
@johnfilkins3720
@johnfilkins3720 8 жыл бұрын
No Thank You Sir ! Lol Keep up the Great Work and Please keep them coming !!!
@lukemcinerny8220
@lukemcinerny8220 8 жыл бұрын
+john filkins I second that sir!
@johnfilkins3720
@johnfilkins3720 8 жыл бұрын
Definitely Luke I here you buddy I just can't get enough ! Lol this is my nightly routine after dinner until bed !!! How often do you do research Luke ? I just love history but the Crusades and the Knights Templar have always been my favorite types of history !!! anyway hope that you have a Great night Luke
@stefanvella9807
@stefanvella9807 Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the ♰ Teutonic Order ♰ .Thanks for making this.
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@stefanvella9807
@stefanvella9807 Жыл бұрын
@@RealCrusadesHistory If one is fascinated with Crusader history and truthfully as much as possible, he cannot dislike your channel, books and videos.
@z3a3k3
@z3a3k3 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your explanation cocnerning my comment on that earlier video on the Northern Crusades. Now this podcast here does justice to the subject and I'm glad my trust in your series can be reaffirmed. Thanks for the good job, indeed.
@robertfreid2879
@robertfreid2879 8 жыл бұрын
Finally! Something about the Northern Crusades, I was hoping Real Crusades History would talk more about these Crusades...
@ArnaGSmith
@ArnaGSmith 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. Picked up a lots of great books to read that are coming down the road. Look forward to these. I don't read novels, but I like a good historical novel from a period that I have been reading about for years.
@Hereticalable
@Hereticalable 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you chaps, a fine and balanced appraisal of these lessor know events. Keep up the good work.
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 8 жыл бұрын
+Hereticalable Thank you sir!
@ToneWoN
@ToneWoN 2 жыл бұрын
Best crusades channel on KZbin period.
@the4universes207
@the4universes207 3 ай бұрын
It really is, the most based and honest reviews. Others could be but they left so much behind
@TotalRookie_LV
@TotalRookie_LV 7 жыл бұрын
Fur, fish and land, plus amber, to which Teutonic order usurped a monopoly and anyone else would be punished by death if caught collecting amber. P.S. I don't know how it is in the rest of Europe, but being a Latvian when I hear word "crusader" I don't imagine how cool I would look like in that armor, more like how to get him out of saddle and plunge my spear or sword through him. And it's kind of satisfying to read, how a guy named Imanta "scored a headshot" against bishop Meinhard, BTW, Imants is still a popular Latvian male name, I know several people named that (the ending is different, because Imanta was from the Finno-Ugric Livonian tribe, and words ending with -a usually are feminine in Latvian). Besides the national flag of Latvia is quite old, it's been around at least since the time of crusades, however, back then this banner was on crusaders side, as Turaida was the first tribe/state to convert to christianity. Forget all the BS about it's meaning, just face it - it's the colour of stained blood.
@00HoODBoy
@00HoODBoy 4 жыл бұрын
Dr latham really is an amazing guest. Very eloquent
@MisterTipp
@MisterTipp 8 жыл бұрын
Can't you talk some about the Swedish crusades to Finland?
@leaksson93
@leaksson93 8 жыл бұрын
+MisterTipp i heard long ago that it hasent really been proven that they happened at all
@Lawh
@Lawh 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Persson The first one might be a myth, but the second one apparently has evidence of taking place.
@MisterTipp
@MisterTipp 8 жыл бұрын
Either way, it'd make for an interesting video!
@user-sj2yp8dp7j
@user-sj2yp8dp7j 7 жыл бұрын
im probablly wrong but i think all scandinavians really magically converted to christianity fast and got land and made a modern christian society
@graffzon
@graffzon 6 жыл бұрын
It happened. The only reason to why ppl doubts the first one is because some storys about Erik the holy invading Finland. Even the Beowulf saga tells a story about Swedish vikings invading vendish ppl in Finland as i will recall. There are reasons to why Finland was east sweden for over 600 years and to why Swedish-fins still exist as a ppl there.
@krisnorge5830
@krisnorge5830 7 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could do a video about the downfall of the Teutonic Order? Their involvement in the Lithuanian Civil Wars between Jagiello and Vytautas and then the battle of Grunwald/Tannenburg is one of my favourite episodes of history.
@konfunable
@konfunable 6 жыл бұрын
Jagiello is not a real name. It is a Polish translation. Sad that Poles completely stole Lithuanian interpretation of their own history. He called himself Jogaila.
@rickj895
@rickj895 8 жыл бұрын
more! more! more! on the Teutonic knights and the northern crusade
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the podcast on this topic. It was especially interesting since my ancestors were likely involved in that Crusade.
@SuperKittenator
@SuperKittenator 7 жыл бұрын
Wow! how can you trace your family back that far?!
@simonmcnicholas
@simonmcnicholas 7 жыл бұрын
Go back far enough and we're all related, it's highly likely we all have somebody in our ancestry that took part in one crusade or another
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 7 жыл бұрын
Google up "Hammershus" , Hammer's House in English. Its the largest fortress in Northern Europe located on the Danish island of Bornholm. My family is the Hammers and we go back as far as paper records allow.
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 7 жыл бұрын
Not just crusades but the countless battles between city-states, various princes or barons or families, even ranking bishops of the Roman Catholic Church. Its an amazing history that unfolds when you dig into it. A person back in those centuries had to have their head on a swivel since you never knew when or who your enemy will appear.
@rlbbe5369
@rlbbe5369 7 жыл бұрын
I just looked it up, it said that name came from the town blacksmith cause blacksmith equals hammer , your ancestor was one of the workers in the hammerers hut i.e. The blacksmith
@henryjohnston6023
@henryjohnston6023 8 жыл бұрын
Can you give some details on the book on the northern crusades you talked about
@TheModernHermeticist
@TheModernHermeticist 7 жыл бұрын
good stuff, thanks
@Eionful
@Eionful 8 жыл бұрын
I would just like to say that the Christianity side was pushed when the Bishops took a hold in these regions. Bishops were businessmen, very wealthy and had a passion for taking over land and gaining power of the people.
@FlyingWingless
@FlyingWingless 7 жыл бұрын
Great job! I love history and hearing what people make of it, which brings me to a minor suggestion / critique... It's about how you phrase segways and intro's.... You're trying to be to neutral. You could pick a side, arbitrarily, and use it as a means to lead your interviewees to either agree or rebuttal. Give them a chance to persuade you. If you are digging "new ground and insight", your list of arguments will be bypassed as preconceptions. That's when nerding is getting good. To be honest i dont know if it would work well. Keep up the great work! Subbed!
@Methodius93
@Methodius93 8 жыл бұрын
Great podcast, and I'm happy I discovered your channel recently! The Scott guy sounds like he's drunk or coked out haha. I hear snorting in the background throughout this, mostly in the first nine minutes though ha.
@crex-pd1vv
@crex-pd1vv 7 жыл бұрын
I love this
@johnhoward8362
@johnhoward8362 7 жыл бұрын
balts aren't slavs they look more nordic than slavic
@freedomordeath89
@freedomordeath89 7 жыл бұрын
Balts are slavs. Check ANY book about ethnography. I mean..guys...beeing a slav is NOT a slur..why are you so butthurt about baltics beeing slavs? it would be like an Englishman beeing butthurt because his ancestors were germanic saxons...
@lolikususs
@lolikususs 7 жыл бұрын
Baltic ancestors are not Slavs :D
@johnhoward8362
@johnhoward8362 7 жыл бұрын
+they didn't speak slavic language and they are more europian than asians like slavic people
@tdasblinda9222
@tdasblinda9222 7 жыл бұрын
Baltic ancestors are indoeuropeans, like hittites and not some shitty slavs.
@andreasj864
@andreasj864 7 жыл бұрын
Baltic people are not all Slavs, not that it would matter to me in the slightest if they were. Although, it depends on what people mean by saying "Baltic". Estonians speak a Finnish-Ugric language, not a Slavic one. The Lithuanian and Latvian languages are, as far as I know, part of the Balto-Slavic language family. But in that family Slavic and Baltic languages are subdivisions, so it is still correct to not call Balts Slavic. Otherwise we can describe Russians as Baltic too, I guess :D
@kapitankapital6580
@kapitankapital6580 7 жыл бұрын
quick question, were the Iberian Crusades the same as the Reconquista?
@xavi9bhgt556
@xavi9bhgt556 7 жыл бұрын
Not really. The resistance of the northern kingdoms of Iberia was always present, but i get your point since the declaration of the first crusade was a great incentive to the Reconquista and also a military boost to, let's say the christian part of occupied Iberia.
@kapitankapital6580
@kapitankapital6580 7 жыл бұрын
Xavi XX thanks
@flavs8802
@flavs8802 6 жыл бұрын
Whats the best book about the teutonic knights?
@easttowest7839
@easttowest7839 2 жыл бұрын
I know you asked 4 years ago, but if you get this, look for a book titled "the northern crusades" by Eric Christiansen
@jamespatersonpaterson1789
@jamespatersonpaterson1789 4 жыл бұрын
best ever bro
@graffzon
@graffzon 6 жыл бұрын
Good listening!. But i wonder why u left out Sweden who made crusades into Finland and parts of Estonia and fought the vendish ppls there for years and made them christian (finland and parts of russian carelia and viborg was swedish for 600 years after that) and joined forces with the knight orders to make the crusade into Novgorod?. And why even mention the danes as a main part of the northern crusades when all they did was more or less invading and killing their own ppl (the West danes who wouldnt let go of the pagan gods) and made some "field trips" into other parts like Novgorod too. Hope you'll answer my questions:). Regards//Freddy
@texasRoofDoctor
@texasRoofDoctor 2 жыл бұрын
Great content. Like the Albigensian and 4th Crusade- these were mostly land grabs with spurious justification. Islam posed an existential threat to Christians in some areas unlike the people in the Baltics. The Northern Crusades merely expanded the previous Roman > Feudal system upon relatively free people.
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 2 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair in the Baltic some pagan tribes did run a considerable racket raiding Christian borderlands for slaves, and this in part prompted the Northern Crusades.
@texasRoofDoctor
@texasRoofDoctor 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealCrusadesHistory True. The followers of the Dead God were a mystery and anathema to the various flavors of Germanic (I think the Wends were slavs but not sure) and Slavic tribes. I do not really blame them after all I have heard of the early Christians and their missionaries.
@chadchill2277
@chadchill2277 7 жыл бұрын
How hammered is this one guy
@alexanderchenf1
@alexanderchenf1 5 жыл бұрын
As a Commonwealth guy I see the Knights as the bad guy for a long period of their existence. No justification for attacking Catholic Poland and Lithuania. They already bent the knees before god and now they need to bent the knees before you?
@anythingthoughanythingthou2453
@anythingthoughanythingthou2453 4 жыл бұрын
C Alex yes of course
@jonathandubbs2395
@jonathandubbs2395 8 жыл бұрын
Ever considered doing a video on Simon IV of Montfort? I always thought he was a very interesting person given his opposition to attacking Zara because he didn't come "to kill Christians", yet he was willing to kill Christians during the Albigensian Crusade to ensure that the heresy Catharism would be extinguished. Not to mention he was brilliant tactician who was able to win several battles despite being outnumbered most of the time.
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 8 жыл бұрын
+Baldwin IV Definitely thought about it and hopefully will at some point!
@legostarwars978
@legostarwars978 7 жыл бұрын
The Teutonic Knights were strong like really strong they were brutally strong
@norelius6008
@norelius6008 7 жыл бұрын
Badasses! :-)
@johnhoward8362
@johnhoward8362 7 жыл бұрын
they just lost one battle but they defeat you and conquered so many times in history...the germans are really the best fighters
@freedomordeath89
@freedomordeath89 7 жыл бұрын
Men are all the same..we all got the same power...the differences are not due to "race" but due to INDIVIDUALS and their actions. Napoleon won many battles because he was a good general, not because he was "french".
@esburnside
@esburnside 7 жыл бұрын
Please control Scott Amis.
@Templarswordxx7
@Templarswordxx7 6 жыл бұрын
For a military order following a version of the Templar Rule, I would consider the germanic Catholic order as a arguable failure. Their methods could hardly be considered valiant, spreading christianity, or their dominance, by force that even at the time could be considered archaic.
@jdlc903
@jdlc903 7 жыл бұрын
they should of left the pagan northerners alone and focused on the Levant and Egypt and Anatolia ,regions which had been Christian since antiquity.
@abeedhal6519
@abeedhal6519 7 жыл бұрын
It wasn't about religion. It was about territory and goods.
@youraverageimperialguard7932
@youraverageimperialguard7932 5 жыл бұрын
Anatolia and Egypt had been Pagan until Constantine which was not antiquity.
@DerSchleier
@DerSchleier Жыл бұрын
@@youraverageimperialguard7932 Wrong. Zoroastrianism proves you wrong.
@jankowalski6842
@jankowalski6842 8 жыл бұрын
...
@MaccaveliPL
@MaccaveliPL 8 жыл бұрын
+Jan Kowalski There was no such thing as an extermination of original Prussians. Also for the whole 13th century and most of the 14th century the relations between Poland and Teutonic Order was friendly or neutral at least.
@astrusis_dantis3655
@astrusis_dantis3655 8 жыл бұрын
+Jan Kowalski Polish-Teuton wars? Don't make my laugh, we fought them almost 200 years, sometimes there were 4-5 attacks per year and you are talking about your war with Teutons? :)
@jankowalski6842
@jankowalski6842 8 жыл бұрын
...
@astrusis_dantis3655
@astrusis_dantis3655 8 жыл бұрын
+Jan Kowalski mister imbecile, don't have anything to say about object of discussion?
@Ulkarnium
@Ulkarnium 8 жыл бұрын
+Aštrusis_dantis You haven't added anything to the discussion yourself, though. Only some random, unrelated whining.
@negative_one7637
@negative_one7637 7 жыл бұрын
Well, this not was pure in sense of expansion, the baltic pagan tribe prussians where basicly allways biteing thicks, they where raiding and pillageing as mad.
@fidenemini111
@fidenemini111 7 жыл бұрын
Negative_One Have you ever bothered to think why they acted that way? Dont you think they tried to reconquer lands which previously belonged to Prussian tribes and lost to Slavs? When the ancestors of Poles, Russians and Belarussians settled in their current territories? No earlier than 7-th or 8-th century a.d.
@miger38
@miger38 6 жыл бұрын
you did destroyed out Arkona!!
@V13NA5
@V13NA5 8 жыл бұрын
Still in the middle of podcast. Motives are clear n kind not important/interesting. Unsolved mystery is how come teutotic knights backed by western christianity lost against considerably less powerfull samogitians and lithuanians. Especially Battle of Saule is puzling.
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 8 жыл бұрын
+V13NA5 They won more than they lost, though, especially during the actual Crusades era in the 13th century. They were incredibly successful.
@V13NA5
@V13NA5 8 жыл бұрын
+Real Crusades History Not in samogitia thou. And every time i check map of europe im stunned - geografical centre of europe was the last to be christianized.
@TotalRookie_LV
@TotalRookie_LV 7 жыл бұрын
I guess it was pretty much like one of the Roman legions was lost in Germania, the lesson is - don't fight locals on their soil when they have prepared for the battle. I don't know what actually happened, but from the little bits I learned in school, crusaders were not so good at fighting in swamp, at least that made cavalry useless and turned knights into foot soldiers, but pretty much the most of Baltic region were swamps. Even now, when an aeroplane approaches the Riga airport and flies over forests in the springtime, you can see sun reflecting from water, trees literary are standing in water when snow melts. Even in WWI in Latvia there were no trenches, since ground waters are so close to surface, instead both German and Russian troops made some kind of fortifications made of wood and earth above ground level.
@freedomordeath89
@freedomordeath89 7 жыл бұрын
-armies were not so different, most of the teutonic army was common footman like the "pagan" armies so its not hard to understand how could they lose a battle - centtal europe is more isolated...same reason why it was the hardest to capture and subjugate for romans..lack of communication routes, lack of cities, powerfull tribes... I don't see what's so puzzling about it... Also:" considerably less powerful" how were they less powerful? I think you are overestimating the Teutonic order...they weren't that much stronger than the average tribe or the average landlord....they used the same feudal recruiting system, the same tactics, the same tecnology, the same numbers...
@TotalRookie_LV
@TotalRookie_LV 7 жыл бұрын
Johnny "..they weren't that much stronger than the average tribe or the average landlord..." I migthf I add on the part that characterizes local Baltic tribes - there have been found 400+ swords of viking period in tiny Latvia alone,where there are only ~150 such swords found in all wast lands of Russia. Only Norway challenge Latvia on number of such artifacts - around 2000, but it also had some four times the population, so on per capita basis Balts and Norse men were on par.
@hannahr77
@hannahr77 8 жыл бұрын
also there where a children crusades
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 8 жыл бұрын
+hannahr77 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGXMfZ-uq7lpjpo
@kribac91
@kribac91 6 жыл бұрын
It is good that this part of the world became christianised
@mikusjanisgailis2201
@mikusjanisgailis2201 6 жыл бұрын
what do you mean? the first of these crusades were actually to spread christiantiy(actually more like force it). but then they pretty much became just warfare to get the land, and it was just masked as crusades
@konfunable
@konfunable 6 жыл бұрын
These guys are not very bright. Northern crusades were almost never fighting the slavs. It was very miniscule part of it. Mainly they fought Balts and Fino-ugric people
@taijituofdeath2210
@taijituofdeath2210 6 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I am reading those comments. They are cancerous.
@taijituofdeath2210
@taijituofdeath2210 6 жыл бұрын
For fucking real Why are people upset about this?
@Xfire209
@Xfire209 6 жыл бұрын
Your comment is several months old but I still want to answer it. The answer for your question is quite simple: It's eastern europe. In WW2 the Germans tried to genocide the slavs (which is why Poles are so allergic/nationalistic about anything German) and the Soviet Union occupied those areas afterwards and surpressed the locals. So after the iron curtain came down and those countires became independant (radical) nationalism was and is popular. Still it's not as bad as the Balkan region. Down there the shit show is on its own special level.
@truthseeker7433
@truthseeker7433 6 жыл бұрын
F
@d.saxonmcloughlin3906
@d.saxonmcloughlin3906 6 жыл бұрын
!!! : DEUS VULT : !!!
@yassasloan7308
@yassasloan7308 6 жыл бұрын
crusades - english for "jihad"
@detierross8340
@detierross8340 7 жыл бұрын
"Slavery" and term goes as far back as babalonia taken over the judiah and israel... 600B.C. so the term was used back then. Not from slavic people being taken by monguels??? Read your History books!!!!
@andreasj864
@andreasj864 7 жыл бұрын
detier ross Yes, but the word "slav"ery comes from "slavs". Of course slavery existed as a phenomenon before that, but they called it something else. You don't think the Babylonians spoke English, right?
@matereo
@matereo 6 жыл бұрын
"you had to become a christian to be allowed to flourish".. Well the Teutons and later the Swedes brought flourishing, order and effetctive administration to these countries. There were no really flurishing peoples on the eastern side of the Baltic sea at the time. Their culture held them vack,just like Islam holds so many countries back and prevents efficiency and flourishing. I can not say much about the Teutons, but several of the Swedish campaigns aimed at finland, and baltic groups were triggered by piracy.
@xymenayardzywa2697
@xymenayardzywa2697 7 жыл бұрын
German invasion, not Crusades....😠😠😠😠😠 they were "conquering " already Christian lands ! ( on many occasions !) we still remember well Krzyżaków ...
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