The Notebook’s Takeaways- True Romance or Truly Toxic? | Mixed Messages

[@thetake]

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[@Angi3_6]

In the books, Noah and Allie actually got along. I hate how couples in media are often precieved as “boring” if they get along or-God forbid-respect each other. No amount of star crossed lovers and soulmate tropes will ever justify Allie cheating on Lon. He was a genuinely a great guy.

[@CrimsonNineTail]

All for entertainment, sadly.

[@Princefanforver]

I was just thinking how Noah dumped almost 20 years later because of that ferris wheel thing, but that's not how he was in the book. He was not like this in the book! I liked the Noah in the book, but I am with you, Lon was the best!

[@trinaq]

Lon was ultimately the better man for Allie. He took her cheating on him with her ex well, all things considered, and I hope that he found someone else afterwards.

[@zero1188]

Nah. She dont respect him if she cheated on him. Because he willing to take her back is the reason she did not want him. Basically he have no backbone

[@lilil9752]

They really shouldn’t have been together, Ally didn’t respect nor love him

[@thepickle2557]

Ally was a selfish woman.

[@buffytheinternetbullyslayer]

I think she loved Lon just like her mom loved her husband. There’s a BIG difference between loving someone and being IN LOVE. it would have been boring. And just like her mom her heart would have belonged to another because of finances.

[@Blue.1889]

@@zero1188 But I thought he broke up with her because he had more respect for himself than to convince her to love him. He said he shouldn’t have to convince his fiancée to choose him and then they broke up.

[@dayyyy___0113]

365 letters is not romantic. If your ex texted you once a day for a YEAR with no response you’d call them a stalker and block them but in a movie in old times it’s “sweet” 😳

[@awomanwithgritt.8837]

I WOULD call the police 🚓🚨🚓🚨!!! That is MAJOR RED FLAGS after a Month.

[@mariapetrova1294]

yeah well, the book is written by a man, I'm sure there are a lot that think this is romantic

[@LubnaB]

The difference is whether you welcome the contact or not. Allie would have likely been glad to hear from Noah but her mother intercepted the letters

[@thefeels6848]

Not the same thing at all. Their relationship was never one sided . Their last interaction was him trying to break up with her and her being furious about it. Also she came by his work to tell his best friend to tell him that she loved him before she left. Also because it was letters and not text message , they can be prone to getting lost or whatever. Maybe he had some reason to believe she wasn’t getting them. Why do people want to ruin this movie ? I don’t get it.

[@trinaq]

Noah is the male lead, yet he has no qualms about threatening to fling himself off the ferris wheel if Allie rejects him, which is a total dick move. If he were the Villain, then it wouldn't be romantic at all.

[@annejohnson5875]

She should have let him jump.

[@geckohunter123]

I thought the same thing. That scene made me SO UNCOMFORTABLE.

[@natnat8393]

FAAAACCCCTTTTSSSS

[@tyriaxepheles7996]

I remember when I was a teenager, my friend told me how her ex whom she was trying to hook me up with (I was into him), she told him she didn't believe he loved her and so he went and hung from the balcony (on the 10th floor or so) to prove to her that he loves her. Back then I thought that was the most romantic thing I ever heard. As an adult I think that's so toxic and manipulative

[@everythingshareable]

I swear I had the same opinion when I was 17 years old. My friends used to call me weird for my opinions on the movie. My best friend said « I want to see how far the guy can go for me to say yes. I would never accept his first advances ». And even recently I would tell her « if I like a man, he shows signs of interest, we are both single, why would I hide my interest? “ these games are just so childish and stupid.

[@blackdragon6]

FACTS 💯💯💯💯

[@kp782]

Yes but normally you are young and stupid. Then grow up lol

[@siljosii]

not only that, but we're already starting at a point of MUTUAL ATRACTION. like, imagine you really dont like that person, but they do all this stuff because "nah, she's just playing hard to get". thats harassment. Such a horrible situation all arround

[@bigsistahtips]

100% agreed. At the time I thought everything was so stupid about the movie yet people loved it.

[@aerah76]

You're a woman worthy of love

[@shika15]

I feel like we really need to stop romanticizing cheating. It doesn’t matter if it’s for ‘their true love’ it’s hurtful and should *really* stop being seen as a romantic thing to do

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

This is why anime with some love scenes are as superior even if they ain't the absolute focus. Ask Dragon Ball

[@tippiebear6532]

nobody cares about anime weeb@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722

[@TeaCup1940]

Exactly. And it seems if it is the woman who cheats or commits adultery, it is accepted.

[@signalfire15]

You should do a video about Damon and Elena’s relationship in The Vampire Diaries and how it was the most popular pairing despite it being abusive and toxic.

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yes there relationship is so toxic

[@V_4_Versace]

Why was it toxic? I never finished the show but I remember their relationship being the best one during the seasons I watched

[@signalfire15]

@@V_4_Versace Well, there’s just so much to choose from. But let me just pick one - how about the scene where Damon forced himself on to Elena, she rejected him telling him she loved Stefan, and so… he kills her brother.

[@LeilaTleubayeva]

@@signalfire15 Omg, I agree that was the worst. I think it's something he cannot be redeemed from. He only got lucky cause Jeremy was wearing ring, if he wasn't Elena would never forgive him. And, even with the ring, the act itself is discusting, I cannot imagine anyone being in love relationship with someone who tried to kill your brother.

[@deatricelewellyan9572]

That is the best idea!!!! Especially since I’m the later seasons you forget about the terrible things Damon has done in the early seasons!

[@bafbaas1210]

I remember seeing the movie the first time and after the ferris wheel scene i was totally done with him. I think it's my specific triggers with felling like someone trapping and suffocating me. I couldn't enjoy the movie after that

[@bascoaful]

Oh gosh, I remember this movie as me being either angry or feeling suffocated...horrible movie

[@BreakCards]

same

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

Dr Strange: The entire world is about to forget that the ferris shit transpired

[@chrissiem3958]

I for sure loved the 'older' Allie and Noah scenes. Big emotional punch for me. My grandmother had Alzhiemer's, and when she eventually got so sick that she had to go live in a home, my grandfather drove a 2 hour round trip everyday to see her and give her a kitkat bar, which was her favorite kind of chocolate bar. My grandfather was an emotionally distant man to all of his family (I am ASD, and looking back on it, I feel like my grandfather wasnt necessarily 'distant', but that he also was autistic...), but his commitment to my grandmother, long after she forgot him, is something that still makes me cry....

[@atheon596]

Fr. The old couple was so sweet. I'm convinced they aren't Noah and Allie because there's no way the two of them end up like the old couple

[@geckohunter123]

Noah’s scene on the Ferris wheel is SO uncomfortable. Like girl that’s not cute that’s demented.

[@yourlittleinsomniac5369]

It's dangerous not romantic. Get far away from them while encouraging them to get help or if they're physically acting on the threat call for the help

[@cbpd89]

When my grandpa had dementia he asked my grandma if she was married, because she seemed to him to be an ideal wife. I don't remember much of him before he got sick, but if that isn't relationship goals, I don't know what is!

[@LeahWalentosky]

Lane was fun, he proposed at a jazz club. I don’t know why they said Ally was bored

[@couchpatotoe2214]

James marsters always plays a guy who gets cheated on. He's so adorable. Like this film, xmen, enchanted

[@V_4_Versace]

Superman too lol every time I see him as a romantic lead in a movie I assume he’s going to get cheated on/left lol

[@Angi3_6]

@@V_4_Versace 27 Dresses?

[@BrookeInProgress]

So true. James Marsden deserves the world.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

And recently the biggest extremist deity in Dragon Ball History: "My form is justice. And my form is the world. Worship me. Give praise unto me. Me, the beautiful, the sublime...Me, the invincible, the almighty and divine...All hail Zamasu"

[@lordeflockatee3399]

As a now adult I view this movie sooo much more differently 😅

[@thepineyapple]

Oh man. This movie, my high school through college boyfriend and me. Toxic toxic love. But we thought it was sweet because we were exactly like Allie and Noah. Down to the shoving, fighting breaking up and getting back together. Thank god we grew up and are just friends now.

[@madnessarcade7447]

Cinema therapy made a video about this already y’all need to collab already lol

[@dizzytel]

Right? My thoughts exactly hah

[@ayameisastar]

In all fairness I think TikTok and social media has been talking about the toxicity of the Notebook for a little while now. Both channels take a while to produce their videos so it’s not surprising this sort of coincidence happens

[@madnessarcade7447]

@@ayameisastar fair enough

[@pAsDeNoMzUt]

Oooh new channel to discover. Thank you!

[@blythetaylor4063]

I like the fact that they talk about the positive components too because it shows that just because something is flawed or imperfect that doesn’t mean it has no merit. In this era of extreme black and white thinking, hot division, surveillance and idolizing the “perfect” more and more as we become more hooked to our screens and detached from reality- well, it’s important to know that sometimes a piece of art can promote really bad and really good things at the same time, and ignoring the really bad can be just as much of a crime as ignoring the really good. Nothing meaningful or timeless will ever be perfect or clean, because if we are to create honestly, from a real human place, imperfections and flaws (as well as joy hope and redeemable qualities) will be within that art. And no one person is perfect in every aspect. People also are capable of immense change, and in order for change to happen, we have to provide room for growth, which requires space for imperfect humanity. This generation is revolutionizing the way we handle victimhood and suffering- instead of demonizing these things, victim blaming and aiming to erase our struggles, we are trying to highlight and speak up about them. But our Puritan and judgmental culture of the past has still stuck with us- it’s not enough just to admit that we’ve struggled and been hurt- we also have to prove our own moral purity, prove that we didn’t deserve any of the suffering (still over using ideas of punishment, being deserving, judgment), and for some people there even needs to be an evil figure in the story, a complete villain. True healing and empathy will come as we move on past this stepping stone and learn that (although yes completely bad people exist) most people are far more nuanced, we still deserve sympathy, community and a place in this world even if we fall in between the cracks or are human. This acceptance and acknowledgment of our place in the world eases our need to demonize others in order to feel better about ourselves, too.

[@ratmon19]

Thank you

[@Arekushisukun]

Nah, this movie is Made for toxic childish pumpkins. Period.

[@fxxzan]

Still asking :) Please make a video about things happening in Iran right now, the struggle and the purpose they have tells a lot about women right and harsh abused that women are facing in Middle East. The impact of Iranian women work on the general view and definition of feminism cannot be ignored. and a thought-provoking slogan Women,Life, Freedom and the message it holds .

[@LF-mg3nx]

Would love to rewatch this film but I don’t think I can get past the “cute ice cream moment”. She pushes the ice cream onto his face and then just.. DROPS IT?? Allie?? That ice cream was perfectly fine! What a waste :(

[@V_4_Versace]

Rich people stuff lol

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

@@V_4_Versace And to think it was bad enough that even Ant Man was disappointed at some random sandwich being almost wasted

[@anonymousnation5235]

"Watching such situation is fun and romantic but living such life is hard." So spot on. I was in such a relationship. He was manipulative and I was angry fighty one. It all fell apart.

[@blackdragon6]

Simple reason for all of this is that Hollywood think none dysfunctional dynamics are boring.

[@PhilTheBronxite]

For anyone complaining about The Take making theses videos. My question is where have you been? Since day one they have been making videos about Racism, Sexism, Homophobia etc. So I’m not sure what you thought this channel was about? Like really come on 🤦🏻

[@jasminexie379]

Rest assured, Noah and Allie were nowhere like this in the book!

[@Angi3_6]

As much as I love this movie, I’ll never forgive it for helping push the narrative that abuse, bad communication and disregard for the other person’s boundaries makes a relationship exciting, worthwhile or desirable.

[@MD0K]

Someone send this to Warner, it's literally a white paper on how to reboot the notebook for gen z

[@quietquintessa5270]

I was just talking about this EXACT thing this very week! Wow! Thank you so much for this video. This is so spot on!

[@SlayerNinaFriki]

Let's get real, this movie will be remembered because of how soul crushing were the dementia scenes

[@1105grumpy]

I wonder what the movie would like be if it was told from Allie's perspective and not Noah's.

[@AromaticSympathy]

That would be a cool topic!

[@cheyennemendoza3096]

It is isnt it? Didn’t she right the book he reads to here and told him to read it to her when she doesn’t remember?

[@katherinejimenezmatos2009]

I never considered this movie romantic. Passionate love is not synonym of constant breaking up-making up.

[@ZeldaMcFly]

Imagine how much better this movie as a whole would have been if Duke actually turned out to be Lon, and reading the notebook to her was his way of making up for all her regrets about staying with him. Just saying 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Princefanforver]

This used to be in my top 3 favorite movies when it came out. I just watched it recently...and wow!! I can see some toxicity. Back then I could see the appeal of Noah and a little bit today (he built a house when we can't even get texts) but I was so sad for Lon. Now, all these years later, it makes no sense to me why she didn't pick Lon! She barely thought of Noah until she saw him in the paper! Sigh! Hollywood's takeaway is if it's not a challenge and exciting with a million obstacles, it's not worth it and we have to dump the obvious better choice.🤷‍♀

[@helgageraldine513]

That "meet cute" between Noah and Allie was never cute to me. It was creepy. All my cousins were so into this movie when we were teens but I just couldn't get myself to like it as much. I thought a walk to remember was a lot better.

[@signalfire15]

A Walk To Remember was much, MUCH better.

[@Femmagorgon]

No one would think it was cute if Ryan Gosling didn’t look like Ryan Gosling.

[@V_4_Versace]

Both stories were very toxic, the girl literally fell in love with her abuser in a walk to remember

[@signalfire15]

@@V_4_Versace How did he abuse her in A Walk To Remember?

[@Mykasan]

the older couple at the end just feeling like another story, not noah and allie.

[@starrsmith3810]

There’s a huge problem when I prefer her with the guy the movie says is boring……that and when it’s treatment of black characters is compared to Gone With The Wind. I’ll stick to Dirty Dancing and Titanic for my Forbidden Love fix.

[@CarlosRodriguez-bh2ey]

The Notebook is toxic AF and it seriously can give you the wrong idea of what love really is when you are young, like a lot of us were when we first saw it.

[@kp782]

I disagree. Nobody is perfect

[@mysticc6232]

@@kp782 tell that to people in abusive relationships

[@kp782]

@@mysticc6232 well tbh many people start to date young. Have sort of abusive/toxic relationships because you are young and stupid and irrational. Then you grow up become more mature and can have healthy relationships. Been there done that

[@mysticc6232]

@@kp782 Not everyone experiences it like that though. I never went through toxic relationships when I was young because I knew better. Plus there are plenty of young couples (early 20s) who are happily married. It depends it the individual

[@kp782]

@@mysticc6232 sure. But not everyone knows better and are mature. Im glad I can see myself develop

[@yeseniaperez1655]

Finally I didn’t get it why so many people love this story !!!

[@candycottonwithapple]

I was so mad when she left Lon.

[@belleepoque2544]

SAME

[@julietteangeli]

Lon deserved better, anyway, everyone deserves someone who isn't settling for them.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

It's her fault Lon would be reborn as Zamasu XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD. Congrats pathetic b@@@@. You killed Trunks's timeline by proxy

[@kashifs.6458]

Great take as always! I'm surprised you guys haven't analyzed the show Atlanta more, there's a lot to unpack especially in the last two seasons. Can't wait to see your take on it!

[@blueimagery]

“WHAT DO YOU WANT!”

[@devilshomie]

I always thought that Titanic was a much better love story and favored Jack Dawson over Noah

[@irizl9328]

Lol I know I’m not the only one who is noticing the trend of lesser known channels putting out videos and the take uploading the exact same topic, 2 or 3 weeks later. I see you, the take.

[@SanaSarina]

Thank you for not completely ruining this movie for me.

[@kroitaaa]

I have always hated how everyone finds this movie so romantic, decades of media twisting our views of what romance is and this is a perfect example.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

In my mind Allie found Noah's corpse and as a result would end with Lon in the long run

[@alinskyjesusballecer4363]

Wow I've just watched The Notebook yesterday and now this vid came! Thank you thank you! 🥳

[@sebbvell3426]

James Marsden, you are the G.O.A.T, man!

[@deannas2778]

Honestly a man that understands your confusion in a relationship the way that Lon does is a keeper. Lon is straight up empathetic husband and father material.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

On second thought Lon should get a chick that will treat him as an actual human

[@PrettyPrincess9609]

I never watched this movie before but I’ll check it out to see what the hype is about.

[@firsttimeisawjupiter1031]

It was good but not THAT good

[@Anthonycheesman33]

It’s probably one of the only romantic movies I enjoy lol.

[@motherofcats7671]

There better ones made in the 80s ei; mystic pizza,moonstruck.

[@carolynharris4519]

One thing I agree from the notebook is that true love is imperfect. Relationship has flaws, but even with those flaws, you know that that person who truly loves you, will always be by your side.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

Kinda wish the widow tried to make Noah forget Allie to see what happens

[@fortune_roses]

Unpopular opinion: Maybe Lon is the better choice *realistically*

[@KaylaNoelle1]

When I watched it I was about 13 and I thought something was wrong with me for having a crush on Lon but not Noah.😅

[@sandradermark8463]

Me too. The uniform and his nice guy personality and his cultured background... And the fact that Ally healed him when he was a wounded officer in the war, maybe saved his life...

[@KaylaNoelle1]

@@sandradermark8463 Right??? Why is he so.... 😻 He's so mature and emotionally intelligent too!

[@zero1188]

Seems more like that who she is emotionally attracted to. It was her own choices

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

Do Mark Darcy and Bridget Jones

[@mbanerjee5889]

The only reason this movie is glamorized is because Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams are hot.

[@christianwise637]

You took the words right out of my mouth

[@pau9512]

Could you do a video about Mrs. Lovett and Sweeney Todd relationship? In the Tim Burton's film. It's not exactly a love story I think

[@seanporcelli3965]

That's a strange takeaway to criticize it for not have commentary about something other than the two main characters. Does every movie need to reinforce things you want? What about the other background characters? Do they need to matter now too? Should we have 4 chapters on a random bank teller? It's just a love story, not schindlers list.

[@Mellyouttaphase]

I felt like this, too. I understand that we are all more aware and inclusive now, but come on.

[@sdarling6518]

Historical context is part of good storytelling but when we're used to stories told in a vacuum we can fail to learn what the world was really like. This kind of whitewashed storytelling paves the way for the nostalgia trap and disinformation.

[@seanporcelli3965]

@@sdarling6518 a part of but not required. Not every story needs to do any one thing. I'm not going to criticize a writer for not telling the story I want when I'm perfectly capable of doing so. It's not their responsibility it's mine.

[@ryanr20091]

its called pandering and patronizing of course you know the drill lol

[@nope1853]

“This may be fun to watch, but it wouldn’t be fun to live.” Well, yeah. It’s a movie. We’re not supposed to model our lives off of movies. If characters weren’t messed up there would be no conflict, hence no movie.

[@jodiebug1]

I never got over the Ferris wheel stunt

[@realSimoneCherie]

It’s not distracting how few black people are in a film where the lead characters hold 98% of the films’ dialogue. It might’ve been better to have absolutely no people of color than to have a false portrayal, but blacks on screen were as 2-dimensional as everyone else who wasn’t Noah and Allie, including Lon, Allie’s friends and their adult kids.

[@arisolisB]

Years of therapy to get over this movie… Thanks Hollywood, thanks The Notebook 😢😂 I love this movie so much 💖

[@witchplease9695]

I would never choose Ryan Gosling over James Marsden

[@chocolaterini17]

As a bw I appreciate this movie. I’m not gonna lie. It came out not long after ‘Baby Boy’ we got BB and ww got ‘The Notebook’ 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@amyadams9970]

Were the parent's really wrong? Like, we just went over how Toxic Noah is and then talk down on the parents for not liking him? Granted, humiliating him at the dinner scene was not right, but were they 100% wrong? Plus the guy that they like wasn't that bad, as you just explained.

[@buffytheinternetbullyslayer]

They guy they liked. Lon was a handsome sweet guy but their relationship would have been boring and cliché. With Noah there’s FIRE 🔥 and ultimately that’s what Allie wanted.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

@@buffytheinternetbullyslayer And in turn we would get Zamasu decades later (Marsters killed it in both roles big time dude)

[@tylerhackner9731]

I view this movie differently than when I first saw it

[@beethovensfidelio]

It’s called growing up.

[@lhallnance]

Movies based in the past are always going to have some problematic issues! Why does it have to be addressed if it's not part of the main story? Yeah representation is important but it's not the only thing. My mind flashes to all these women adapted reboots and how some of them aren't all that good because they focus on the fact that it's women leading the story instead of telling an actual good story

[@nalday2534]

no wonder you like this garbage. that's a real character to you isn't it weirdo?

[@cozumel5608]

I find this film so boring( like a high cost cringy telenovela) and being not white, I didn't understand why to point out the lack of representation as a defect of the movie, like probably there were plenty of white people of South High classes who didn't even care about black people's struggle and didn'teven notice it. So it isn't farfetched, then if it addressed those issues it would be guilty of "white saviour complex"

[@Iliah97]

Yeah its social justice police everywhere. Whatever the story is, they want comentary and inclusion of discriminated people. Like, why? Those were the times, in that sence its accurate presentation of the time since people WERE like that.

[@justsaybobby]

Have y'all done a video about the Bachelorette? That would be good.

[@mandinhagamba]

Hi! I love the channel's content, but I would like to ask you to think about and subtitle the videos. KZbin auto caption is not good enough.

[@cup.o.joe...]

I never watched this movie, I only knew it existed because of the big bang theory lol. But seriously, who thought this was romantic?

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

It's their fault one of them was reborn as an Evil Supreme Kai lol

[@zoalm8106]

Suspicious that Cinema Therapy did a video about this precisely 12 days ago..

[@josefk7437]

Lon was the better match for Allie, but the movie would have been too boring if Allie had better judgment.

[@vanessadants]

thank you, I first watch this movie several years ago and I couldn’t get along with it… it was so hard to watch this… 100% Lon was best for Allie.

[@Vivalarosa45]

The book is better. The movie is nothing but cringe.

[@deaditeera]

You can find toxicity in anything nowadays What happened to enjoying something for simply being well made?

[@ragnaice]

Does this seem more ambiguous if you don't find Ryan Gosling attractive to begin with? The characters seems almost psychotic to me, but hers isn't much better.

[@belrapture]

Not to brag but I’ve always pointed these things out to everyone who would praise the movie. I just couldn’t stand people calling it romantic when it was clearly toxic and abusive at times. For example when he got upset she didn’t want to have sex with him. It was so disturbing and I just never understood the appeal. I’m surprised the video twisted it and forgot to mention his initial reaction which was visibly frustrated. I rooted for Racheal and Ryan in real life though. Two Scorpios born at the same hospital..that is romantic.

[@asea1203]

I have never watched The Notebook, but i'm kinda annoyed with how overused the word "toxic" is these days.

[@geckohunter123]

Maybe if you watch the movie you could see if it applies 💀

[@birdiewolf3497]

I mean hitting your partner isn't great, like.......

[@onionbubs386]

You're not wrong, but it's appropriate for this movie

[@archer1949]

I hated this movie. The book was better, but still mediocre. Nicholas Sparks, in general, makes me cringe.

[@mayln163]

You should do a video about the mini series Normal People

[@AliaslsailA]

I still love it 🤷‍♀️

[@MDV245]

Same, it's a classic (i think, for me)

[@adagiobreeze8493]

The word Toxic has become a Cliché

[@ssmith8758]

Ugh, watching all this shit (including Sex in the city) was unfortunately influential in my formative years. No victims here but hopefully you all woke up to this manipulative toxic narrative.

[@petrichor499]

You're going to see everything as toxic if you delve into every little detail. People dont seem to realise that movies are a product of the time they were made. Its not perfect. No movie is ever going to be perfect and universally liked. This whole witch hunt people have calling out movies and tv shows itself is toxic. This is why we are only getting crappy Netflix movies, sequels and remakes these days. Movie makers clearly feel they need to make movies and shows to the woke standard or they will get cancelled, called out... whatever. It leads to really boring movies. Thankfully, I have pre 2010s movies to watch.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

Well hehehehe. I forgive you....................................... FOR PERMITTING LON TO BE REBORN AS A SUPREME KAI WHO ABHORS ALL HUMANS EQUALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Zamasu please kill this fool already

[@southerncross5360]

FACTS!

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

@@southerncross5360 Did you forget?? NOAH TREATED THE WIDOW LIKE SOME TRASH!!!!!!! YOU DO NOT DO SUCH BULLSHIT AND GET AWAY WITH IT!!!!

[@creatinotionchannel2680]

Ryan Gosling looks nothing like James Garner. Weird casting choice for the older version.

[@urlauber2884]

somebody has seen cinema therapy

[@Sunshine-is_here_to_stay]

👉👉👉The house 🏠 is BEAUTIFUL. Why put it in a category about the past?

[@onionbubs386]

Even as a young, dumb teen with very little romantic experience, I knew this was a bad movie. I don't see how any sane, level headed person can see a guy follow a girl on a date with someone else, threaten to kill himself in front both of them unless she goes out with him, and think that's a healthy way to begin a relationship. I have so much hatred towards Nicholas Sparks for reasons I won't go into or else I'd be typing all day, but this movie is what started my utter distain for him. Fuck this movie.

[@josefk7437]

Who thinks this movie is about what romance should be like? Just about every review and KZbin discussion of the movie is about the relationship being toxic. Nobody ever says this movie is really romantic. The main thing I remember is that some loser threatens to fall off a ferris wheel to get a date with Regina George from Mean Girls. Most romances are about stalkers or other creepy guys played by actors who pointed out how creepy or selfish their characters were.

[@mmem4264]

Not sure why but now I want to see a remake of The Notebook where Noah is black.

[@hoangquanle3310]

Lmao Allie is a Tsundere

[@debbalinis]

Wow, the terrible fucking patterns this movie projected on my younger self. Looking back now, this glorified UNHEALTHY relationships and made me believe THAT is what love looked like! It shouldn't be that hard to love someone. 😳 and it's sick that we've made people think these are healthy relationships. HIs devotion till the end is moving, but the way they got there should have been less traumatic for both characters...

[@doughnuthead8757]

She really should’ve stuck with James Marsden.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

Yeah. It's her fault we would get a smarmy deity who despises humans. Way to go Allie. You ruined Future Trunks's life

[@favour3734]

Maybe it's cos they've been churning out "Toxic" series but the backlash on this feels excessive. I've followed this channel from their days as ScreenPrism and they've always been about thoughtful analysis around race, gender,love, socioeconomics in culture/onscreen, are y'all new here?? They literally talk about the GOOD of the movie and are bang on about the toxic aspects (I'll admit that race one was a bit much)

[@MahrukhMurt]

...nah. You guys tried hard to show the positive side of this movie but its still 99% problematic. What might have made it a little better and real as a story would have been to see Noah's progression as a man alongside his wife, instead of jumping in time from them being young and stupid to dying in each other's arms. You're made to believe that the two of them had a great successful marriage and a lovely family life but it may not have been the case at all.

[@kelleynele]

i watched it for the first time this year and all i thought was, "toxic and overrated” especially the ferris wheel scene

[@daisylovexx]

they're both (the actors) scorpios, there's your explanation

[@silverauroraatmidnight6157]

I don't think their relationship is toxic, in the beginning of the film we can say that he was a little bit immature by kinda forcing her to date him but he was a teenager and it was before they got into the relationship, after it things were normal and beautiful. And about them fighting all the time it's normal all couples fight, yes she's a little bit aggressive but it's not like she hurts him, And I love the fact that he calms her whenever she's angry and most of times he apologizes and kisses her and she has never tried to hurt him or do anything bad to him , that's totally not toxic that's normal. About when they got older when Noah was telling Ally that he loves her he wants her forever, well what do you want him to say, he should've shown her the reality that not just because it's hard to break up with your fiance you will not see the truth of your feelings, he knew that she loves him but she might just go because she's being 'too' nice to not hurt her fiance, he cannot just let her go without knowing anything about how much he loves her and seeing the reality in general it'll be a big miscommunication if he didn't say anything. Look relationships should not be perfect they will fight but they swiftly get back together, he treats her like a princess and she's one of the kindest characters I've ever seen, they understand eachother and they feel safe with eachother and this is why they stayed together till the end.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

Yeah??? Then what happened to Lon is a joke??? Considering the actor went eventually to portray the Funimation dub of Zamasu I believe that Lon became a Supreme Kai and well..... the rest is history

[@UVIcki]

The Ferris wheel scene makes me cringe but so does the behavior of a lot of teenage boys. It was her spirit that drew him to her in the first place.

[@cheyennepinson330]

Have you done one on Jerry Maguire? Blechh

[@MaliceInCandyland]

I thought this movie was the most depressing thing I ever watched, so I hated it. Now I see that the whole thing is trash. 🗑️

[@jaredbrown2443]

This.. THIS is why I don't like this movie

[@annejohnson5875]

Couldn't stand the Notebook.

[@FRAGGARED]

Disability?????