The Nuggets Future Is Bright... Right?

The Denver Nuggets head into the offseason after a game 7 loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves, and their future is bright, right?
#nuggets #nba #nuggetstimberwolves

[@SportingLogically]

Still can't get the facecam issues sorted out but wanted to make the video anyways, enjoy!

[@seunghyunlim6552]

its all good

[@blablablaa14]

Dude its okay we don't have to see your face. No big deal

[@itzhassanplayz909]

We don’t wanna see ur face

[@onlyfacts3178]

Demar Derozan is a free agent playing 37 minutes a game he is a ball handler with a great mid range shoot, he would be perfect to replace MURRAY... Bulls sign a trade Derozan + Carruso 9M + Vucevic 20M... Trade Murray 36 millions + KCP 15 M for those 3 guys. THAN Denver will have Carruso who can play PG/SG Demar who can play SG/SF and Vucevic who can play PF/C. 3 players who can play multiple roles.

[@Dtown1996]

This series showed why Bruce Brown was important

[@FadeHook23]

But Peyton Watson

[@SportingLogically]

100%!!!

[@verifiedwill]

Not really, starters just couldn’t hit a shot

[@cdeleon3494]

​​@@verifiedwill That's why bench depth is important too lmao, you just proved his point

[@crazydumb1861]

It’s true if they had Bruce brown I think they win game 7

[@potats5916]

crazy that for the past 5 seasons we've had 5 different champions, none of which make it back to the conference finals the year after

[@taxationistheft7]

Just not really a “stacked team” like a team with 3 superstars in their primes like in the 2010s just a lot of duos of solo man teams, and if they don’t play perfect they ain’t winning

[@justinwan3173]

Imo, It’s more entertaining this way, variety of different teams each year keeps it fresh

[@javierlandaverde4108]

Before then, Steph Curry reign supreme for a while. Def Curry should be noted for his greatness during that time.

[@johnl.7754]

Probably because of the changes the league made to spread out the talent

[@russellwestbrook462]

@@johnl.7754feels like a lot of teams are pretty deep now too

[@jaygarricktheflash]

Two players taking 55 of 83 shots. Your take is right... Denver need more options.

[@Tumorcoach]

Love how you leave out the rest of the team was 8 for 28 shooting……. Yes clearly they need more options smooth brain. Options that can just be consistent shooting above 30% 😂

[@giannisksanthopoulos4300]

@@Tumorcoach so you are expecting the other 6 players to have 4-5attempts per game and they should be always 100% in?

[@MrE_]

It's kinda crazy how likely Denver is to lose when jokic has to do more scoring rather than playmaking

[@stevenmark4407]

@@MrE_didn’t seem like an issue during the regular season but in a series that can go to seven it’s clear that there is an issue with it.

[@jaygarricktheflash]

@@Tumorcoach Love how you leave out these two players were 6 for 22 shooting three pointers. Yes clearly the others players were the issue small brain.

[@Zenki8118]

Just goes to show how important Bruce Brown & Jeff Green really were.

[@ericksonfenton6021]

Wow this true!

[@aboveSubparBallAnalysis]

@@ericksonfenton6021cs can get 5 days rest vs Luka

[@tylerwascool]

Really Bruce over jeff green

[@xavierb9061]

Jokic has never beat 50 win team in playoffs

[@taj3618]

@@xavierb9061crazy stat

[@terrellfromig]

Yeah I think Denver will be fine in the long term, however they NEED a backup center that can defend and is athletic to help Joker out when he’s tired

[@taxationistheft7]

Crazy thing a guy like Reid would be the perfect person to be jokic backup 🤣

[@coreyczech]

Wolves being able to rotate 3 guys on Jokic was huge

[@Lumensensus]

They ain't never seeing a finals again 🤣🤣

[@djsognal]

They don't. He wasn't tired.

[@coreyczech]

@@djsognal 6'9" Naz Reid blocked Joker twice in 4th quarter and KAT forced him to airball a fadeaway (refs bailed Jokic out on that one)... Joker was gassed in the 4th... not sure what you were watching

[@discobassgroove]

Christian Braun is legit

[@FadeHook23]

Legit 🗑️

[@scottgibson6022]

He is a bona fide pest.

[@Richxwolf]

We thought him and peyton would be them, but nahh🤣

[@brianerisca6822]

He's a solid 8th man nothing more .. at least not at this point in his career

[@user-pc3md8lb9k]

Maybe I hopped on the game too late but mid 3rd thru 4th dude was ass

[@AlexanderWindsor69]

"The Rudy Gobert trade is the worst trade in NBA history"

[@Juanperez-jc6bv]

Imagine any other max contract center instead of Gobert with this team... a very good team is carying that bum.

[@jcsanpedro]

Rudy shuts the haters with that sick turn-around fadeaway

[@coasteyscoasteys4150]

​@jcsanpedro Lol one shot changes everything 😂

[@justmytwocentsdontgetmad]

To be honest, Wolves made the better decision of not letting Gobert guard Jokic cuz he was getting cooked in games 3,4, and 5

[@jcsanpedro]

@@coasteyscoasteys4150 did you saw that shot 🤣 that will be on basketball history hahaha

[@777tmack]

The main difference between this year and last year is the bench.

[@BobbySanders-bf2fr]

I said it the day it happened. Brown Brown and Uncle Jeff were huge for that team. Should not of let them walk...

[@SK-mw8vd]

To be fair, they definitely did not let Brown walk at all. They only had the MLE to offer him, and he deserved the bag he went out and got.

[@Al3erto]

@mkw5398you can disagree without insulting. Expecting young players with no playoff experience to be key contributors is not a recipe for success. Honestly, I think mpj on both ends of the floor killed us this series.

[@travisnoffsinger4507]

They had no choice unfortunately

[@travisnoffsinger4507]

Yeah I think MPJ is definitely tradeable at this point.

[@burstpanther6352]

They didn't let Brown walk, there's cap rules that need to be followed

[@LargeDude2023]

Agree Porter Jr is 6'10 but plays like he's 6'3 and is useless if his jumper isn't falling

[@michaelahurt]

On offense maybe but on defense he definitely plays like he's 6'10". And even when his jumper isn't falling teams still guard him closely which creates more space from Jokic and Murray.

[@UlisesInThisB]

He was playing like a bum idk why he has the max if he’s number 3 option

[@RSTEM]

@Largedude2023 facts & nothing wrong with having bad shooting nights but when you're also being soft and not going up for some alley oops or banging it out in the paint dude is basically being usless

[@RSTEM]

​@@UlisesInThisBAG definitely 3rd option

[@KhalifaDeej]

MPJ is the Tobias Harris of Denver

[@NezreNR]

lol

[@jamo3976]

MPJ for 35-40m a year is just wild... NBA salaries are crazy

[@mikevismyelement]

Tobias Harris type contract + production

[@matthewg5792]

Agree. That kind of money for a guy that's going to give you 22 or 2 and almost nowhere in between is not money well spent.

[@ESL-O.G.]

He is just OK

[@susandinosaur732]

MPJ at best worth 18 mil. his only job is to catch and shoot the open 3.😂

[@jovanhernandez9032]

MPJ was making me mad. Like damn, only hooked against Lakers like that two games and then that's it.

[@dustykh]

I've wanted MPJ gone since the finals last year. MPJ was just missing. You aren't gonna win a championship again when on any given night 2-4 of your starters are good and the rest of your team just play like bums.

[@greatpyrenees559]

And you wouldn’t have beat LA if he didn’t play how he did

[@dustykh]

@@greatpyrenees559 You say that like it's an accomplishment, but the lakers were a much worse team. Also in the lakers series KCP didn't play well and in some games Gordon didn't play well either. Not to mention the lack of bench points. So my original point of 2-4 starters play good is still applicable.

[@UlisesInThisB]

Just look at his contract and he’s number 3 option 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@jdbb3gotskills]

Even though Murray and Jokic made 35 and 34 pts Minnesota still beat them. 6 guys on Minnesota had double digit points. Denver only had 2. My Timberwolves are on to the Conference Finals but I hope Denver finds better role/bench players.

[@MimieThalie]

You have a beautiful team, good luke for final. ❤

[@jummyran]

They’re a horrible team that’s stats you see in high school what ag and mpj did. lol how tf you score only 4 lol they were always inconsistent eay to cold majority of the time with bad shooting. They neeed better shooting

[@romonrivera9977]

​​@@jummyranWe're a horrible team yet we won the finals last year, and took the Timberwolves to 7 with no bench help. Doesn't make sense does it?

[@GnoTheo]

Jontay Porter betted under on MPJ.

[@alvin081988]

Denver needs to made a trade to get Caruso or Bogdanovic(Bogdan or Bojan)

[@ericsmusic5927]

With what assets?

[@taxationistheft7]

Caruso isn’t really a playmaker though… plus who would Denver trade like bro said above

[@alvin081988]

@@taxationistheft7 The Young Guns (Strawther Naji Braun or Watson with Reggie Jackson) I think KCP will leave

[@taxationistheft7]

@@alvin081988 damn losing kcp will be though

[@jjqq4116]

Murry. He's trash and breaks down a lot.

[@ericliu2325]

Porter is def overpaid. His go to is his shooting and nothing else. No defense. He is lanky for no reason

[@edgardoMurnia]

hes pretty good at rebounding and he should be a 4, but because you need a 4 that is awesome at defense to protect Jokic lack of mobility and rim protection... it's a bit messy.

[@meursault.1984]

I agree that Porter is overpaid, but in terms of being overpaid, Beal and Simmons is robbing the whole world and they both should be in jail. LOL

[@kahys2377]

@@meursault.1984No tobias?

[@michaelahurt]

His defense has been really good the last two years. He's a legitimately good weakside defender now and the fact he can rotate down to opposing bigs when Jokic is 25 feet from the rim is kind of a big deal for them. He has gotten better at using his shooting to get downhill but Minnesota is just a bad matchup for him because they have three all defense level wings and are probably the only team in the NBA who can guard him with a guy just as big and athletic as him (McDaniels)

[@user-ke6ck6jp3e]

Small market curse

[@quentondaniels8536]

Definitely need some veterans in, in core positions. Jeff Green and Bruce Brown were huge losses. An impact backup centre is very much needed, just need someone to be an interior defender/shot blocker and rebounder. Another guard who can structure an offence and hit an outside shot. Believe they have depth in the wing positions and they need to give more time to Nnaji and Watson.

[@ImChasinBaggz]

I think they should run this roster again next year for the most part. If there is to be an addition to the team it should be a backup big. I have a strong feeling everyone will come back better next year and they'll be fine. Mpj will be a better creator, Watson, Gordon and Braun will all be better shooters and we know what jokic and Murray bring. Just my opinion though, I 100% agreed with your viewpoint as well.

[@taxationistheft7]

@@ImChasinBaggz how will MPJ play better? Like I feel like this is his ceiling a catch shoot level player, maybe if he improves his defense?

[@ericsmusic5927]

@@ImChasinBaggz strong feelings doesn't mean it will actually happen

[@Smido83]

@@ImChasinBaggz The only thing that might happen is Braun becoming a better shooter. He has shown in the reg season that he can hit open 3's. And he is young enough to maybe ad that to his PO skillset. But Porter will not just all of a sudden develop an eye for his teammates and ad a passing game, and Gordon is who he is as well. He is an ok-below average 3P shooter. He is that for like 8 years! They have to bank on one of Nnaji/Watson/Strawther to take a huge step forward and somehow ad a true playable Backup Big.

[@ImChasinBaggz]

@@Smido83 I should've been more specific; when I say porter will be a better creator, I meant a better shot creator for himself. I think he can take that next step from just a catch and shoot guy. In the lakers series he showed pretty decent mid range creation and applied some good rim pressure at times. I agree that Strawther can have a leap next year and they also should bank on Watson's growth. I'm glad we can see eye to eye on Braun as well

[@MrDjillest303]

What do you mean the brilliance of Anthony Edwards he missed eighteen shots

[@KingslayerSrb]

Man, Jokic will never play with another all star in his whole career, will he?

[@thecoolrich]

Denver needs a damn bench! They lose Bruce brown and that was big & it showed

[@giannisksanthopoulos4300]

Ohh now they need a bench. Until this series" Denver was the favourite to win all, Jokic and Denver the best in the world" and after the lost...Jokic needs more help. Denver had 2 injured players(not so important players) also and Minnesota 2 missing players (not important). NO EXCUSES FOR DENVER

[@stevenmark4407]

@@giannisksanthopoulos4300 NOPE everyone has been saying they needed a bench. It’s a perfectly valid excuse, we’ve said this since last season ended and Bruce Brown and Jeff Green didn’t return. People thought after seeing their regular season success that maybe their starting 5 will be enough but after game 7 of the second round it’s proof that our earlier suspensions were right all along. They have no deep bench. Also they weren’t always title favorites when the season started they were along with the Bucks and Celtics (cause of off season trades) before the all star break the Nuggets were the 3rd seed behind the Timberwolves and OKC thunder and because of that their chances of winning a title changed in some peoples eyes then of course the clippers got it going too. After the all star break the nuggets then became title favorites again when they went on a run that lead them to being the one seed again until they lost the title after the lost against the spurs. So no the Nuggets weren’t always title favorites essentially they only where when they proved they can still contend with most the league but not all the league. The Timberwolves were beating the nuggets ass all season and the only win the Nuggets had against them was when Kat was out briefly.

[@vulcanraven9701]

@mkw5398 they def did not in playoffs tho. they were nonexistent

[@vulcanraven9701]

@@giannisksanthopoulos4300 perhaps, but the bucks havent done anything since they beat the injured nets either

[@stevenmark4407]

@@giannisksanthopoulos4300huh? Are you new? Or wasn’t paying attention? They have always needed a bench that was everyone concern going into the season. The concern started to fade when they started winning in the regular season both during home and away games. That’s why they became favorites they proved they can still win with only their starting 5. When the lights were bright however seems like some of them couldn’t do it anymore. Also let’s not forget that the Timberwolves didn’t beat the nuggets in all but one of their regular season match ups. Only time the nuggets beat them is when Kat was out. So them having no bench especially against the Timberwolves is a valid excuse. Stop trying to act as if it’s not.

[@jooyichen]

The size advantage is negated by the fact that MIN always has to double Jokic. MIN have big men for the boards. But Denver just had to make those easy shots.

[@susandinosaur732]

that means one of the 2 6'10 wing is left unguarded.

[@jummyran]

Overrated team

[@travisnoffsinger4507]

MPJ has some soul searching to do after this performace. The entire series too.

[@giannisksanthopoulos4300]

He had 6 attempts from 2's..and you expect from him to be 100% Why was Jokic 20% from 3's???

[@MJisGoat797]

@@giannisksanthopoulos4300 thats not the issue, MPJ can't create his own shot so his drives were extremely awkward and easily snuffed out.

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

​@@giannisksanthopoulos4300He is literally a third star of the team, payed 35-40 million dollars a season (which is huge, YES) and he averaged like 6 PPG in the series vs the Wolves. Is that normal to you? That's absolutely very VERY TINY contribution to the team. Those are numbers for some bench player and not even the 6th or 7th player in the team, but lower down the ranks on the bench. He needs to expand his game so much if he wants to remain relevant in the Nuggets and in the NBA. He looks like a spot up shooter out there, like Kyle Korver or something and if someone plays a bit more rough defence on him he is basically DONE.

[@sakamoto8354]

Also from off court. I don't know why his brothers are doing something stupid. I hope his sisters don't go doing the same thing.

[@nohvis4435]

Jamal Murray averaged under 20 points he is the 3rd option. They need a real 2.

[@tj5180]

He’s a great 2nd option just had a bad series and that injury

[@rgonzalo511]

Stop it the guy was clearly playing hurt. Also he could gain from loosing a few pounds he looks out of shape

[@JBYHIFI]

If they had a real tertiary creator, Jamal wouldn't have been hounded to the same degree

[@partizanbgd0113]

@@rgonzalo511nothing against Murray, but he is often hurt. If he was a 3rd option, perhaps he could stay healthy for longer stretches of the season not having to sacrifice his body every time he drives to the rim. With that being said, we need a Connolly type a point guard, someone to set the play and control the offence, help facilitate when Jokic is on the bench. I didn’t follow him a whole lot this season, but signing Chris Paul and playing him 10-15 min a game could work. Also, strengthen the bench.

[@webgem14]

There was talk of this years ago, but another point guard would allow Jamal to play off the ball. Some of his best playing was when Morris was the point guard and Jamal was the SG. That’s an option that I hope they consider.

[@danielwebb8402]

Great game. So many blocks by both teams and great defence.

[@shadowfighter2237]

Reggie Jackson is a certified cone in the playoffs

[@jordanbenson9094]

Reggie Shmurda 😂

[@momohirai064]

He old

[@progressiveoverload3915]

He should’ve stuck to playing baseball

[@Dont_like_or_sub]

Your backup PG not the reason you guys lost🤣 and he was hurt like Murray too

[@KleinpeterHank]

They tried to cut corners thinking Jokic would be enough to carry them. Even all time greats need support. Get him an all star or somebody Nuggets front office.

[@edgardoMurnia]

lol

[@afallenworld1581]

What all star does he need, they have 4 player that could all score 20 points against Lakers.

[@Cloudy4o]

@@afallenworld1581But can’t do well against teams who have great defense huh?

[@eze9081]

​@@afallenworld1581Anyone can score 20 points a game when DLo and Reaves are the ones guarding

[@jjb33083]

Proud of you, Jokic.

[@user-lk1fw1lp8b]

Nah he choked

[@Urakite]

​@@user-lk1fw1lp8bHe didn't, Other than Murray. No one really stepped up.

[@user-lk1fw1lp8b]

@@Urakite awful second half, got locked by Naz Reid. The supposed 3 times MVP does not love 20 pt advantage at home court, skill issue.

[@stevenmark4407]

@@user-lk1fw1lp8bthat’s not on him he ran out of gas. It happens especially when you got a weak bench and not the greatest defense.

[@user-lk1fw1lp8b]

@@stevenmark4407 whose stamina is the problem? Whose defense is the problem? Right, Chokic's.

[@jabarwright4333]

This video made me realize that the Nuggets and the Sixers are almost parallels of each other. The biggest difference between the Nuggets and the Sixers is the Nuggets built their team around Jokic perfectly and the Sixers did not build their team around Embiid perfectly except for Maxey. They both have a terrible bench and they both didn't really have a third option. Also, Jokic can stay healthy and Embiid cannot.

[@lukalalosevic200]

thats probably the reason why they are not bulding around him...missing 25%-40% games every season is not good , you know how bad denver is when Joker is not on the court , imagine having that 30% of the season or even more ..yeah would be quite bad

[@jummyran]

Na they need another all star like mavs did for Luka and suns did for Booker. That team is a joke when you take out Nikola

[@owenaiabens4940]

Denver might be the best landing spot for Zach Edey, for both Denver and Zach. Backing up joker is probably the best play for him to develop, then having his size off the bench can really help this team especially in the regular season.

[@mythologist7047]

I was thinking the same thing, I think it would be pretty fun to see him with Braun, Watson, and a different PG off the bench

[@ScuffTuff]

And thus continues the MVP curse of not making it past the second round since 2016

[@yahcrack]

The defending champs lost Game 1 at home. They then got annihilated in Game 2 at home. They were up 3-2. They lost Game 6 by FORTY FIVE POINTS. In Game 7, the other team’s 22 YEAR OLD best player was 6-24 and they were up 20 in the 2nd half. And they lost. At home.

[@jummyran]

@@yahcrackyup when you really look at Denver their horrible. It’s all luck and joker when he’s hot. If he went to a new team they wouldn’t win 20 games

[@sakamoto8354]

since 2016? Giannis was the MVP in 2019 and he lost in ECF.

[@jjb33083]

Imagine placing big bets on Denver and New York today. Surely, anyone would have thought, "I'll at least split." 😅

[@stevenmark4407]

Ngl that was me on Sunday night LMAOOOO 🥲

[@danlower7834]

Denver looked tired by the end. This one is on Mike Malone. Gotta give guys a breather now and then. Especially with a big lead, might have saved this game and the series.

[@michaelahurt]

He probably could have done a better job but Minnesota has 7 and they have 6. It is what it is. But those guys played similar minutes last year. Ultimately you make shots or you don't and they lost that game in the third quarter when they should have been rested and shot 5/19

[@junioradult6219]

Not with that bench

[@UlisesInThisB]

Porter needs to drop 30 points he’s literally on a MAX idk why he a number 3 option 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@spidamitchell8311]

Agreed with the take that denver relies on jokic a ton

[@rahiemmontgomery282]

Agree strawther was playing good the preseason and showed some flashes but Malone hardly played him in the regular season

[@stevenmark4407]

@@rahiemmontgomery282Watson was doing great after the all star break I thought Malone was going to use him especially against the Timberwolves but he didn’t.

[@stevenmark4407]

@mkw5398exactly they have young talent. Malone just don’t want to give them time to shine and he spams the same 5 players.

[@rahiemmontgomery282]

@@stevenmark4407 fr he was locking up after all star break I was so confused when they hardly played him this series he could’ve slowed down kat cb did a good job slowing down ant but the wolves role players clutch it

[@sakamoto8354]

@@rahiemmontgomery282 It's funny to me Malone made Justin Holiday the one guarding Naz Reid. Watson might not be much better but at least he has the size to somewhat bother him unlike Holiday.

[@Smido83]

I said before the season started that Denver should do a 1vs2 trade to adress the lack of depth. Use Porter Jr's 30+ Mio to get 2 good rotation players. One good shooting wing and one 3&D defender. My Idea was Bogdanovic/Burks from Detroit. I dont see a similar trade right now, where a rebuilding team has 2 vet Wings available. Makes it way harder to get something similar done. With OKC just getting better, Minnesota/Dallas going nowhere, Houston coming up... I think its getting harder and harder for Denver to somehow get a deeper team and stay on top. Maybe Johnson/Collins from the Spurs is an option, depending what they do at draft night? Either way, Porter is eating the cap space without adding enough to validate that huge contract.

[@tyresejones3535]

That’s a garbage trade idea lmao

[@Smido83]

@@tyresejones3535 Hence why I said I dont see a good solution right now...

[@giannisksanthopoulos4300]

Correct me If I am wrong but...wasn't the Denver favourites to will all. How after they eliminate Lakers nobody will stop them? And after the lost, everybody start making excuses for Denver.

[@Smido83]

@@giannisksanthopoulos4300 I am a Mavs fan, I have no idea what Denver fans said before the Playoffs. I can only say what I said all season. The Denver Starting 5 is basically perfect, but the bench is extremely thin and inexperienced... And finding a 40% volume shooting wing for under 32 mio isnt that hard. So Porter should be the piece they split up into 2.

[@michaelahurt]

​@@Smido83 now find one who is 6'10" Even when Porter shoots poorly he's still super valuable because of his gravity and the fact he can do things like rotate down and block a 7'2" center. If you could get Kuzma + Deni Avdija for Porter and Peyton Watson sure but I don't think people understand that the salary cap is about to double do this is a short term problem. Murray is 26. Jokic 28. Gordon 28. MPJ 25 and KCP 30. They can ride this group another 5+ years. There is no need to panic. Winning is hard. Let's not overreact because they went 4/21 on threes in the second half of a game 7

[@JaredTG.]

I completely agree. Not having a reliable 3rd guy and/or depth is what cost them this series. Go look at the stat sheets from tonight, there's a big difference between the two teams. Thats not the worst problem to have though, youd rather already have the MVP level guy and need to find other cheap players that fit. Rather than having a bunch of above average players and no star

[@spidamitchell8311]

I said they aren’t a top team and think all teams remaining are better except Indy

[@taxationistheft7]

@@spidamitchell8311 lol Denver isn’t better than the mavs?

[@obi3924]

⁠​⁠@mkw5398The bench isn’t great at all. He was basically playing an 8 man rotation, with Justin Holiday as a backup guard. Malone had to stop playing Watson in this series because he isn’t smart or skilled enough offensively, and that matters a lot when you’re playing a historically good defense. And you just can’t rely too much on Reggie Jackson. Braun is the only somewhat reliable backup. They need to add a couple more bench pieces.

[@pinobluevogel6458]

@@taxationistheft7 I think the Mavs are a little deeper. The Nuggets starting 5 is great, but moving past that they have very limited guys. The Mavs have 2 legit bigs that can play enough minutes and they have about 6 legit wings that all are good in the rotation, mostly defensive, but also some scoring options. (Washington, Jones Jr, Green, Hardaway, Hardy and Kleber) Also, their star duo of Luka and Kyrie are comparable if not better than Jokic and Murray.

[@UlisesInThisB]

Reliable???? Bro he has a MAX contract he should be number 2 option on any team with that contract dropping 30 points idk wtf he doing 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@amerikvelasquez1708]

Jordan Clarkson was exactly who I thought of when you said scoring off of the bench.... cam Thomas, josh giddy or brogdan could thrive in that slot too

[@Johnsmith-mw6pt]

Giddey isn’t a scorer

[@amerikvelasquez1708]

true but most bench veterans are either there for their defense or 3 point shot so a creator like giddy could impact scoring in a roundabout way

[@LLawliet-tv9ig]

I like the thought of Malcolm Brogdon or a veteran PG like Dennis Schroder or Kris Dunn. And if possible, someone like Tre Jones and Markelle Fultz. Josh Giddy is an interesting option too if his 3 PT% improve

[@derekmorales6705]

As a Knicks fan, hartenstein is the perfect backup for jokic, Denver should put there cards there

[@DoritosBurger]

He played for the nuggets in 2020 and they got rid of him. They must feel stupid now lol.

[@erictaylor1217]

I can’t believe they gave MPJ all that $$. That is really preventing them from getting any other good role players. He’s not going to get better.

[@ronkz7854]

Why would any team in the league be willing to pay MPJ more than a min contract? Let alone, trade any good player for him? It’s so painful to see him misses so many open shots

[@rockonileva]

Have a bench with Braun, Holliday and Jackson was their demise... When one of the starters is off (like MPJ) they just didn't have ANY plan....

[@Le_JYT]

Discovered your channel two days ago, been binging, found out you were also a nets fan. Instant sub, no questions asked

[@robburton4250]

This series showed us how extremely important DEFENSE is. You don’t win without it.

[@captaintreeko3188]

As a Nuggets fan, I don't see them trading Porter. They care about the culture, and we drafted our guys and are going to stick by those guys. I would love to get rid of Porter for a better 3&D, and throw Braun in there for someone who can actually score off the bench. Get rid of Reggie, he doesn't fit the team. I appreciate him trying to be a spark plug but he's not good enough. Honestly if we get a downgrade from porter to make the bench significantly better, that seems like a winning formula. Yes the Celtics are an amazing starting 5, but they have a solid bench. Mavs have Hardaway and Lively off the bench. Wolves have Naz Reid and Alexander Walker. Give us a 10 man rotation of solid contributers for the regular season, and then have an 8 man rotation that includes someone who rests Murray/KCP, keep Watson, and get a PF/C to rest Jokic/Gordon.

[@bokstar030]

they need a big that can play will do the dirty work, u cant expect jokic to be the pg center and defensive guy on the paint

[@Dustyphoto915]

That’s a very favorable interpretation of Jokic defensive skills. He will never be the “defensive guy in the paint”

[@mosthated8848]

I watched Porter past 2 games something seems off. He was not playing at a high playoff level.

[@LoveJokic]

MPJ and Nnaji are 2 players we should look at trading, definitely won’t be easy though, both players making way over they are worth next season!

[@susandinosaur732]

Nnaji is paid what he is worth though. MPJ salary can affort 1 star and 1 above average player.

[@LoveJokic]

@@susandinosaur732 Nnaji is on 8 mil next season, you for real?

[@ripwatts373]

Trade MPJ, Pope, Watson and a draft pick for Donovan Mitchell!!!

[@LoveJokic]

@@ripwatts373 👌🏼

[@redacted588]

@@ripwatts373thats the stupidest mock trade ive seen, donovan dont need to be here.

[@durkdaperk4297]

Our trash ass bench, and missing open shots lost us the series. Props to Minnesota for their defense, but even when the Nuggets got open looks it was bricks…

[@cryisfree510]

If Nuggets got big contracts, Braun needs to be paid real soon. Other teams are definitely willing.

[@obedblack3073]

As nuggets fan, I think that our starting 5 is darn near perfect, almost no flaws. This offseason, they should trade for or sign Jordan Clarkson and a good defensive backup 5. I think if we could bring in Precious Achuwa to run with Reggie, Clarkson, CB, and Pwat on the bench with Strawther and Nnaji as reserves they could very easily get another ring.

[@LiquidGoldSwords]

A Norman Powell off the bench would really help get that second unit more productive. I was also surprised to not see Peyton Watson play more. Christian Braun was a rookie last year and I remember seeing him getting involved quite a bit. I don't get why Watson wasn't that guy for them this year, he was pretty solid during the regular season.

[@johnsun3854]

They could use a sniper like Davis Bertans.

[@ItsNahni]

I think everyone would agree the champion was one of these 2 teams. I honestly dont think the nuggets need to change anything... Jokic and Murray missed 16 3s combined.. The reason they rely on jokic so much is because thats their game plan. If they wanted Reggie or or holiday to score more they could. The nuggets bench took a total of 4 shots so blaming them for a loss isnt really possible

[@eze9081]

The Nuggets won't win another title if they run it back with the same squad. Just think about something, DeAndre Jordan is their back up center. You can't expect Jokic to play 47 minutes on a regular basis during the postseason

[@ItsNahni]

@@eze9081 I could see that definitely helping. But they don’t need another scorer. Malone, Jokic and Murray all said it themselves, shots just didn’t fall in. They really just need a center for this specific matchup tho. AG plays great when Jokic sits.

[@junioradult6219]

Problem is there best shooter was getting outshot by the bench in more games then not this series. At his wage that just crushes you as a team. Overpayed players not performing and not having enough money for a decent bench is what killed them

[@vladislavsimovic899]

Problem is MPJ... je is pretty one dimenssional. But that dimenssion is shooting. So when is is hot, then you can just cry... sorry Lakers. But when he is not, he is not gonna give you much else. And then you have 30+ million bench warmer.

[@junioradult6219]

True. Having a 38 mil player getting outscored by multiple bench players is hard to watch

[@vladislavsimovic899]

@@junioradult6219 He needs to develop either post game, or to be able to create his own shot. For the last year he seems to be working on handles and shot creation, but if I had to choose I would much rather develop post game. Then guys like nichel alexander, that are smaller than him and guard him well on the perimiter, would have to guard him close to basket. Then he would really be difficult to prepare for. Shooting and sometimes driving, it was evident in Minnesota series, great perimiter defenders will lock him up

[@mrvhz7]

Unreal how the supporting cast didn’t come through when Jamal and Jokic were decent and antman shat the bed in the 3 most important games of the series.

[@uoeno5693]

Porter gotta develop his game in other areas he’s too one dimensional. He’s the key to them becoming a dynasty.

[@alandpost]

Maybe he can learn. His defense has improved over the years. But I'm skeptical.

[@taxationistheft7]

Hes 6’10 but grabs no rebounds or box outs. Hes honestly just a spot up. His d has gotten better but I mean better trash is not that much

[@Lumensensus]

Y'all will never be a dynasty 🤣🤡🤡🤡

[@cdeleon3494]

Yeah all he loves them catch and shoot, maybe he could try to be a cutter too and look for mismatches with his height

[@taxationistheft7]

@@cdeleon3494 yeah but why would you want porter posting up? You mean this lie when jokic is on the bench?

[@DoctorMarshall7]

“We don’t need Bruce Brown, we have Peyton Watson”

[@edgardoMurnia]

Lol. The most insane thing ever.

[@Drscience31415]

In defense of Calvin Booth, we could not keep Bruce Brown and keep the starting 5 due to being over the 2nd apron of the salary cap. Reggie Jackson was worth the MLE and Brown made triple it

[@LLawliet-tv9ig]

It was never a one for one replacement. We don't expect him to be the next "Bruce Brown". Peyton Watson is great on defense, but offensively he's a far cry from Brown which made Malone decided to bench Watson during the Wolves series. Watson has the potential to be better than Brown and is 6 years younger than him.

[@Kulasisi-xj9fk]

I think the series between Dallas and Minnesota tells us what a true All-Star is. You don't care about elite defense, you're gonna get yours if you want it. Jamal and MPJ, good as they are, aren't Luka or Kyrie. Joker needs a true All-Star with him if they want to defeat the Wolves (they will be better next year too). If Jamal's injury is the real reason he's not playing his usual Playoff self then they're gonna be fine next year. But if Minnesota's defense is his ceiling then sad to say he needed to be traded. It's win-now for Denver, Jokic is gonna be 29.

[@6MinutesLothar]

Here's the thing! Why not Nuggets search for a versatile young man like Kuminga this offseason? Because their ceiling had been checked by Minnesota tons of times, and one of opposing bigs like Towns just used the delayed tactic opportunity (letting one to shoot even if it's tiring as fuck) to not somebody on Nuggets to be included in that particular rotation and situation at the same time.

[@jjb33083]

Missed the opportunity for Gordon to move into the second option. The chances were there.

[@jedrusnowak3317]

Gordon and porter failed hard

[@mikevismyelement]

If he could do it, he would.

[@vangbangmke]

The MVP Curse is real 😂

[@user-pk8uf3er7v]

I think Denver will be ok.. they just need to look around for some more consistent bench players and another 3rd man.. I mean they do have a championship winning team obviously.. but they do need a little more help.. bro you know who’d I’d try and bring in to Denver even as a six man if it didn’t hurt them… Klay Thompson. He’d add solid 3pt shooting he knows coach Mike, and he’s extremely seasoned.. plus he’d be with a younger team so he doesn’t have to play hard anymore. Denver’s not in trouble but they need to add a little bit more depth in the center and bench..

[@sonny_blade]

2:08 dude had me screaming at the t.v. Denver was playing like they had their Cancun clothes on underneath their uniforms

[@Audisknfj]

Denver losing this year feels a lot like the warriors losing last year: they lost important role players (Otto Porter and GPII, who was hobbled when the warriors got him back; for nuggets it’s Bruce brown and Jeff Green) off the bench and their young players didn’t step up as much (Kuminga’s decision making is poor in the playoffs and Braun cannot score), and they got beaten by a team that is more physical while their second and third options did not perform well (Klay/Poole/Wiggins, Murray/Gordon/MPJ) The nuggets will be in cap hell soon, as Murray’s contract is nearing an end, and decisions about MPJ and KCP need also to be made. Replacing productivity from Bruce Brown will be difficult, but the good news is that Jokic is 29 instead of 35, so the nuggets are not that pressed in building a contender.

[@Nick-sr4fe]

So Jamal Murray can have a bad post season have maybe 2 good games and still be in Denver. Porter has two bad games overall decent post season and he’s on the chopping block?

[@coreyczech]

Neither should be on the chopping block... just need to find a way to get a couple solid bench players

[@renanruiz8851]

Murray is overrated. That squad is pretty mediocre putside of jokic

[@Nick-sr4fe]

@@coreyczech I agree it was on bad run. But people coming for MPJ like Murray didn’t have some stinkers is crazy.

[@spidamitchell8311]

What about kd

[@michaelahurt]

​@@Nick-sr4feit's not about playing poorly so much as Denver needs a tertiary creator and they are paying MPJ a lot of money. Personally I think his rim protection and gravity is a bigger deal than people make it out to be but he _is_ their most tradable asset.

[@SandraSvetlanaSantiago]

great analisis

[@RiruKrypto_]

It's crazy because I think the Nuggets kept their players and didn't do any of their coaches or players dirty. Murray for example, he had an injury and they still kept that dude around.

[@Tumorcoach]

Worst thing they did was give MPJ that big contract with all due respect being a one dimensional shooter and no defense he shouldn’t be getting 38 million a year. He needs to be where AG is at around 23. Dude averaged 7 in 2023 finals and 9 this series.

[@scottgibson6022]

Again, I seem to remember you saying the Gobert trade was the worst in NBA history. Care to comment on that tonight?

[@coreyczech]

Rudy fadeaway sealed the game

[@lennaymaboyyy4848]

all for them to lose to the Celtics

[@andy0519]

This guy has the worst takes, and also a Mavs hater with no reason. Maybe just a way to cope with Kyrie doing his Nets wrong

[@andy0519]

@@lennaymaboyyy4848 Celtics should win it all, if they dont it will be the worst choke job ever hahaha easiest path to a championship ever

[@hua..]

@@andy0519 Never doubt these Cs when it comes to choking

[@michaelpaullang4401]

Would shooting for Lauri m. And Jordan clarkson and or sexton out the realms of possibility for the nuggets to trade for ? Jokic and Lauri would be nasty offensively at least haha

[@scanner743]

The coach by his admission was the biggest reason for the exit and that was the knock on him through out his history except last year when they won the title

[@Los150]

The Miami Heat are to blame for this. Beating the Heat in the finals should never be the measuring stick of the future that everyone makes it out to be. Lakers beat ‘em in 2020 and did nothing to improve their roster. Nuggets beat ‘em in 2023, got rid of key parts of their bench, gone in the 2nd round. The Heat had no business making any of those finals lol. A win over them doesn’t mean your front office should kick their feet up and do stupid shit 😂

[@stevenmark4407]

Lowkey you are right. They easily beat the Heat and thought they could keep everything the same with zero consequences. They didn’t replace people like Bruce Brown and Jeff Green. They didn’t even get a back up big to help Jokic. I swear they forgot they struggled against the Timberwolves (though they won in 5 it was still hard fought games) and the suns.

[@mikevismyelement]

Boston needs to stop fucking choking them. The east sucks.

[@TheFutureEvents]

Should’ve played Jordan

[@taxationistheft7]

What would he have gave them?

[@KH-ou4st]

Buddy is washed

[@SomeChink]

@@taxationistheft7keep Minnesota off the offensive glass to a degree

[@Dont_like_or_sub]

@@KH-ou4styall would’ve had a better chance with Jordan💀

[@kavenavery8561]

This reminds me of how the Lakers blew the finals against the Pistons. Denver had the better starting 5, the bench and no MPJ scoring were the difference.

[@ripwatts373]

Let's find a way to get Donovan Mitchell to Denver!!! Trade MPJ, Pope, Watson and a draft pick...

[@cloudnationmedia8326]

Denver was a big 2nd Half from Michael Porter Jr. and Aaron Gordon away from beating the Wolves. They literally dominated the 1st half against Minnesota in game 7. They ran out of gas in the 2nd half. It's definitely time too Refine the roster but no reason to panic.

[@arhamkham9596]

As a denver fan i really hope we can get tj McConnell

[@blablablaa14]

As a realistic NBA fan, there is zero percent chance for that. Pacers will pay to keep him

[@Smido83]

How? There is no way Indiana trades him.

[@smoothsavage2870]

Everybody wants TJ McConnell. The Pacers arent gonna give him up.

[@LLawliet-tv9ig]

Not happening with McConnell playing so well in the playoffs and helped the Pacers to ECF. His stock is too high now. If it was 2 years ago before Haliburton was traded to Indiana? Maybe

[@blak789]

The issue with tryin to repeat in this era is there are always 3 or 4 teams that are getting better. So will Denver really be a top 2 team next season?

[@hua..]

not sure about top 2, but they'll be considered contenders for as long as Jokic remains at this level, and has even a remotely playable roster around him

[@taxationistheft7]

Were they a top 2 team even this year? They lost all their depth from last year

[@Smido83]

Only IF they somehow ad a true playable backup Big, and IF they can ad a more reliable backup PG, and IF at least 2 of Braun/Watson/Strawther/Nnaji take a huge step forward. Lots of ifs in my book. Specially cause they are already a 2nd Tax Apron team and have limited ways to get those guys needed. If a good minimum Veteran has the chance between (lets say) the LA teams or Denver... who will they choose?

[@Facelessman276]

If I were Toronto I’d be keeping my eye on this. Bruce Brown with a couple picks? MPJ would fit nice with Scottie, RJ, IQ and Poeltl Don’t know if Denver would do it that trade but I’d definitely be feeling out what they’re looking for along with Bruce

[@alofbaui]

Their bench scored 13 nuggets bench had 5 that's your game.

[@edgardoMurnia]

I remember the takes against Giannis after almost defeating the Celtics (Finalists) by himself with Horrendous Holiday as second best player and Middleton out. With Jokic ? "No help". Lol.

[@vulcanraven9701]

Giannis played a weaker team than the Timberwolves. And his path to the ring was nonexistent

[@smoothsavage2870]

We're not about to sit here and act like Bucks fans didnt say the same thing when the Nets lost to the Bucks. KD had NOBODY who averaged more than 12ppg after Giannis injured Kyrie in the previous postseason. Jrue was chipping in and giving Giannis 21ppg. He had enough help.

[@gdjaybee742]

MPJ for KD book it!

[@coreyczech]

not thinking cap structures would allow that trade

[@ant6592]

XD?

[@taxationistheft7]

Hell nah atleast mpj tries on defense

[@gdjaybee742]

@@ant6592 XD!

[@junioradult6219]

​@@taxationistheft7tries? And doesnt do much

[@anycoveryoulike7510]

Big nuggets fan here, the contract they need to move that you didn't mention is Zeke Nnaji. Former frp whos never stepped up as the backup center and he's making roughly $8mil per year. They need to try to figure out a way to get a discount Bruce Brown 6th man with that contract who can contribute now. MPJ is also disappointing but I'm not sure what other realistic options they have to improve that spot without gutting the roster

[@nebras__]

I swear to god that this video could be sufficiently made as a 3 minutes video

[@hunterwade9030]

MPJ having a brother get banned, a brother getting sentenced to prison, and a other brother picking up a DUI had to weigh on him

[@minimalist_monk]

Well he needs to go then. His family is unstable

[@travisnoffsinger4507]

He couldn't let that stuff bother his game period. Unfortunately

[@Joshkiddy15.]

he was doing the same shit last season they just actually won the chip so that got swept under the rug

[@scottgibson6022]

There have been comments that Jokic has accomplished his MVP seasons while never playing with an all-star. Let's be honest, Murray, Gordon, and MPJ all probably should have been recognized as all-stars. It is the sports media industry that sticks with their favorites to the detriment of a lot of similarly great players.

[@spidamitchell8311]

None of them were even within 3 players of an all star This season Kyrie Sabonis Ingram Gobert Fox Sengun Wemby would all have made it over them

[@ScuffTuff]

Not a single one of those guys is better than any of the all stars we got. There’s plenty of other guys who would still be all stars before them. They’re great players but the league is more talented than it’s ever been

[@smoothsavage2870]

@@ScuffTuff Jamal regularly puts up crazy numbers with Jokic, he should've been an all star.

[@jynxycats]

5:55 nice Bobble head

[@skribblexd6873]

Damn Jokic just bodied Gobert at 3:03

[@coloradochris3952]

Joker is Denver's Atlas, hopefully he don't shrug

[@comradeyellow6781]

Their 3rd option, Porter Jr, played trash the whole series, Murray was inconsistent to say the least. You got no bench, and no back up centers for Jokic. Denver needs some serious upgrade, cause they can't rely on Jokic putting up 40 points triple doubles every game to bail em out.

[@OziumG]

I think we’re shifting back into the era of big men. A lot of successful teams this season had solid centers or PF with size. Small ball isn’t cutting it no more if you’re shooting 40% from the 3 but can get an offensive rebound. Plus now we have bigs that can shoot as well as guards, making the 3 ball that more dangerous. If I was Pop I’d take a page out of Finch’s book, and move Wemby to the 4 because of his range on offense and keep a solid center for extra length.

[@OH_MY_DOGGG]

In my 2k franchise mode this current season already had seen a swap sending Klay Thompson to Denver and Aaron Gordon to Golden State. I always found that interesting even though obviously its just a simulation.

[@Nate-ho9tg]

MPJ standing in the corners jacking threes game in and game out.

[@dewaynerobvais4030]

Even if they lost, Denver is still the best team in the NBA!!

[@cjwrench07]

If Bruce Bowen was still around, or another good & consistent 3&D guy, MPJ would have been sitting in the last 12min again.

[@farquadshmoogle9120]

I like MPJ, but he failed the team this postseason. He suppose to be their 3rd option. Can't be lost & vanish in big games. He needs to become more like KD, mid range game, he settles at the 3 point line too much, & then when he drives to basket, he goes weak & looking for foul. No, stop & shoot mid range, or do a running floater. He has all the skill needed, but doesn't put it to use

[@mikevismyelement]

I don't think his handle is good enough to consistently create his own shot.

[@EdWedgie]

The nba is funner when different teams make the finals every year

[@jalenjohnson0339]

The obvious answer is they need to improve the bench. You do have a point they need another scorer if MPJ don’t have his shot. Honestly if I was D’Angelo Russell I would take a vet min and join Denver he would be huge off their bench and be an upgrade over Reggie Jackson. Problem with that don’t think he would take that deal and he probably feels he a starter

[@Jace_Alin]

Zach Edey potentially to develop behind Jokić?

[@VijayThakurMD]

Mpj was missing a lot of shot