1.4 Billion processors, that's what I call a multicore!
@wojciechszymanowski3 жыл бұрын
Transistors isn’t processors.
@lutherblissett78733 жыл бұрын
@@wojciechszymanowski Thanks Professor Beznazwiska
@MarshallSambell3 жыл бұрын
I found one of these cards in a pc tossed out on the side of the road, it had an arctic accelero triple fan cooler attached to it, temps peaked at about 55c under load on that after a repaste. Took one dead stick of ram out of the core 2 quad system it was in and the entire thing booted up and posted and I just laughed.
@Tc4ify3 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same one (with the Arctic Extreme cooler); I had to buy it though...
@BenWillock3 жыл бұрын
11 years... it really doesn't seem that long ago!
@crazyop51653 жыл бұрын
yeah nostalgia!!!
@xXxNoisemaker3 жыл бұрын
A GTX 260 from the same era is still in my case. It was meant to be temporary. I still think I'm going to upgrade it in just a few years...
@BrianMartin20073 жыл бұрын
Dude, for real!!!
@excess.subiefl0w3 жыл бұрын
Is this considered retro now? Wow
@louistournas1203 жыл бұрын
2009 was an erotic time to live in.
@bitelaserkhalif3 жыл бұрын
The time when GPU must have lady innit
@Hdtjdjbszh3 жыл бұрын
or a weird toad goblin thing. It was always something weird froma tech demo, never something useful ja
@ZeroHourProductions4073 жыл бұрын
If you can order from aliexpress or taobao, you were able to get a "waifu edition" 5700XT as of last year. The stock cooler wasn't very good, but i don't think anyone buying it for the cooler, was going to care.
@eng3d3 жыл бұрын
And no RGB, repeat, no RGB whatsoever.
@TechWithSean3 жыл бұрын
eng3d RGB = Rendered Gun-wielding Broad
@TimberWulfIsHere3 жыл бұрын
Wtf, english plz?
@awnordma3 жыл бұрын
One of the coolest things about these cards is the digital audio in (white plug next to the power plugs). Once it's enabled in the drivers the audio will be added into the HDMI signal. The Audigy card I used doesn't have a header for digital out, so I soldered a wire to the back of digital out plug and ran it into the video card.
@talvisota3273 жыл бұрын
back when high end gpus were actually affordable
@BITCOIlN3 жыл бұрын
And back then the 200 series also had a new feature called Physx that didn't double the price of gpus.
@ClayWheeler3 жыл бұрын
Realistically most of 90s kid ask for parent's money to buy this card, so it is considered expensive by some.
@TheHavocInferno3 жыл бұрын
@@BITCOIlN PhysX was introduced with the 8000 series two years prior.
@TheHavocInferno3 жыл бұрын
@@ClayWheeler do you think adults didn't own gaming PCs back then?
@BITCOIlN3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHavocInferno wasn't physix hardware accelerated for the first time on 200 series? I remember that physx was hyped up during 200 launch and didn't hear about it before it.
@dimarzio93743 жыл бұрын
This card is still new for me coz ive not been playing since 2009
@aaz19923 жыл бұрын
Welcome back
@CommandoTM3 жыл бұрын
Haven't even begun the vid, still in the ad, and I'm giving it a like! I'm still underway on my XP dream build and continually looking at the perfs from the 8800GT all the way to the GTX 960. But knowing you Phil, I'm in for a treat 😁 Edit: Did not disappoint 👏
@philscomputerlab3 жыл бұрын
8800 GT is a card I want to feature for sure :D It offered so much value...
@shaneeslick3 жыл бұрын
G'day Rudy, What CPU & M/B are you thinking of, my current XP PC is a C2Q9650 with 4x 1GB 800MHz DDR2, Gigabyte GA-G33M-S2 & GTX260SOC, I use it for C&C Generals & converting Analogue to Digital, I can do Records, Cassettes, 35mm Film & Slides, but have a Ultimate XP build in the works too, I thought about a GTX960 but ending up going with a EVGA GTX780Ti SC with EK waterblock, using TechPowerUp GPU DataBase, GTX780Ti is the most powerful XP compatible GPU 165% compared to GTX960, when I was buying here in Australia GTX960 were generally over $100AUD (although I have seen some under since RTX3000 & RX6000 release) I got the EVGA with the waterblock delivered for $150, so I was very happy spending the extra, I will be using a Coolermaster 120mm AIO that I have replaced the tubes to include the GTX780Ti in the loop, I also have an EVGA Z68SLI Micro M/B & have to do some testing in XP whether I go with my i5-2500K, i7-2600K or i7-3770K 🤔???😁
@Jwalker763 жыл бұрын
@@shaneeslick gday mate, another Aussie here. I had a 260oc back in the day, though they weren't a gtx? I have a i5 4400 I'm going to use as a xp gaming machine when I get around to it. I have a gtx 570 but tempted to buy a gtx 750 ti. What I'm not sure on is how do I get xp running for free?
@shaneeslick3 жыл бұрын
@@Jwalker76 for how cheap you can build a competent XP PC for retro gaming I think it is way easier than stuffing around in W10, For XP you can get drivers for all GTX200, 400, 500, 600, 700 + GTX950 & GTX960, GTX970/80/Ti & newer are not supported, if you want to know best performance or just compare what is available for Performance & Price TechPowerUp GPU Data Base is good with lots of info for each model & the Partner versions, here is the GTX780Ti page (this is the most powerful for XP) & you can scroll up the 'Relative Performance' list & right click & open in new window any you want to look at in more detail & compare: www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-780-ti.c2512 As for activating windows without a key, you can give this a try, I activated a XP PC for someone else using this method a year or 2 ago, but haven't heard if it is still working, www.americancomputerenterprises.com/downloads/how_to_activate_windows_xp_witho.htm I haven't done it for myself as I bought a few old HP XP PCs with Activation stickers, if it won't activate I just ring Microsoft in Sydney & tell them it Died & I changed the motherboard, then they help me activate it Good luck & hope you get a Kick out of it 😁
@JohnSmith-iu8cj3 жыл бұрын
In 2011 I bought a quadro FX 4600 for 200€, which has the same core as the 8800gt. I applied a passive cooler HR03 from thermaltake. It served me well in GTA IV and CAD until it died in an electric hazard and got replaced by a fanless 750ti palit kalmx in 2017. today I am on a 1070.
@Mani-aX3 жыл бұрын
I had the EVGA version of that card with an Intel Core i7-930. I dont have the video card anymore but still have the motherboard and cpu running an 680GTX. System is running an AIO water cooler for the cpu and it is still going. Great video, brings back some good memories.
@AshenTechDotCom3 жыл бұрын
grab an x5675 and clock it to 4.4 or so, it will blow your mind how much more powerful it is vs the 930... and cost you around 20usd shipped last i checked( i have one.. for a reason)
@TechGamesAU3 жыл бұрын
FEAR looks so good even to this day
@RuruFIN3 жыл бұрын
Totally blew my mind back in the day even with low settings on my GF4 Ti 4200. :D
@TechGamesAU3 жыл бұрын
@@RuruFIN I had an ATI x800 pro which was powerful for the time and FEAR was the first game that ever rekt that card
@TechGamesAU3 жыл бұрын
@@RuruFIN oh and I owned the Ti 4200 as my previous card before that. It was a Leadtek.
@RuruFIN3 жыл бұрын
@@TechGamesAU Heh, I finished FEAR first time with a Leadtek GF4 Ti 4200 :)
@xXxNoisemaker3 жыл бұрын
@@RuruFIN I remember it being unplayable even on a overclocked-to-death FX 5500; I struggle to think of an earlier gen card. It must have been DX8 mode, 640x480 with pixel doubling, and every setting at the lowest level.
@-Wraith3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else remember the days when 4gb of RAM was high end?
@JohnSmith-iu8cj3 жыл бұрын
I remember when 16MB was a lot
@georgemaragos23783 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-iu8cj My Pentium 100 has 16meg ram, i remember 386dx had 4 x 512, and i upgraded to 4 x 1meg cost new 2 months overtime back in the day. My GTX1051 had 2G ram and everyone tells me it is junk just one spec above intel graphics I think i had a PCI video card once that was a hand me down and it had more ram the the mother board
@talvisota3273 жыл бұрын
yeah i had 4 gb ram in 2009... was quite a lot back then and most people still had 2 gb in their gaming PCs at that time
@malcolmholmes25963 жыл бұрын
512mb was overkill, no games need that much vram
@aaz19923 жыл бұрын
So high end the standard 32 bit Windows couldn't handle it
@thicclink3 жыл бұрын
That's crazy...i actually JUST YESTERDAY installed a GTX 285 in my windows XP rig! Definitely a great card. Doubled my frame rate in some games over my 9500 GT
@aaz19923 жыл бұрын
Epic
@gorebrush3 жыл бұрын
I bought a GTX295 brand new in 2009, it cost me £550. Accounting for inflation it would be the price of a 3080 today.
@jonesy30003 жыл бұрын
I also had a 295 i remember it being extremely good at warming my room in the winter.
@CommandoTM3 жыл бұрын
GTX 295 vs R9 295X head-to-head in winter heating benchmarks
@thecondor97443 жыл бұрын
Years ago i had the GTX 275 from Sparkle ( It had a white cooler, it was so cool ) and i was surprised by the performance ( specially because i bought it used for really cheap ). With a small oc ( didnt touched the voltages, i easily reached the limit of the cooler ), in Windows 10, it could run GTA V in 1080p, with the lowest possible settings you can set ,at 50ish fps. Anyway thanks for reviewing this old beast. I always wanted a GTX 285 but it was too expensive. Even today its not cheap for the performance that it offer ( i read that you could flash a bios for using it on some Mac Pros. Probabily thats the reason ) and yeah, as u said, a 750 or a 650 would be better but they are not the 285. There is something so fashinating about those old high-end components that i cant really explain.
@Ametisti3 жыл бұрын
A white cooler sounds pretty neat, if only due to being unusual. As for running GTA V like that dunno if that's a testament to optimisation, the gpu power of mix of both :o
@virtualtools_30212 жыл бұрын
These also have AV out which is great for retro TV's for old games or emulators
@explorer90493 жыл бұрын
love the old cover art on those old graphics cards, remember ATI Radeon's ruby?
@RuruFIN3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah as I had some X1800/X1900/X1950 cards :)
@explorer90493 жыл бұрын
man do i miss my radeon x1800 XL. it crapped out on me after in use for 4 yrs during the time i slowly transition from windows XP to windows 7. good ole painful memories of driver hardware hell.
@RuruFIN3 жыл бұрын
@@explorer9049 I had a X1800 XL too in 2006, though I managed to brick it with a modified bios and didn't know how to fix it as I was only a teen back then. Nowadays it would be an easy fix. I have a 7800 GT though as it was its direct competitor. :)
@euX222X3 жыл бұрын
"The future computer parts will be much more energy efficient" they said, 2009 GTX 285 2x6-pin conector, 2020 RX 6800/RTX 3080 2x8-pin conector...
@Danuxsy3 жыл бұрын
It's still true, 3080 is way more efficient than this but it has way more transistors.
@johnkolk3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile integrated graphics can achieve better performance than the 285 while needing 1x4 pin for the cpu and gpu combined
@Sweeper18903 жыл бұрын
Good Memories to this platform. Well done! Greetings from Germany!
@garchamp98443 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I picked up two of those cards for next to nothing at a garage sale a few years ago, intending to build an SLI system with them one day. Finding a SLI capable mobo that isn’t dead has proved to be a challenge, though.
@kyles85243 жыл бұрын
check facebook marketplace, a lot of people give computers away or sell really cheap for older computers.someone gave away a am3+ mobo.Dont remember the exact model but it had the slow phenom ii x4 cpu and 8 gigs of slower ddr2(kind of cool ram it was the OCZ ram with the goldish colored heatsinks) but it is SLI and crissfore capable.
@4bl0xx303 жыл бұрын
The GTX 285 was one of my favorite graphics card. so two years ago I bought 3 of them for each 20€ at ebay and put it on my Rampage 2 Extreme with the Xeon CPU. The System was not the best for gaming (at least the graphics cards) but it looked very impressive, especially with the be fat bequiet dark rock pro 3 cpu cooler.
@SUCRA3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I have something very similar to this in the works. Already ran some stuff with the gtx 260, similar to the 285. Right now I'm into the gtx 580, I find it lightning fast, runs most of modern games. Thanks for the video Phil, always good.
@darrenwendell17233 жыл бұрын
Love your German Australian accent.
@mafyatekin3 жыл бұрын
I say this in a lot of videos of him :) Phil is a special kind of teddy bear
@VarietyGamerChannel3 жыл бұрын
muddah-baud :)
@CableWrestler3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like he's got issues with his teeth alignment.
@sammy611873 жыл бұрын
After all these years been trying to work it out
@KimoKimochii3 жыл бұрын
memowee
@ND22M3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Phil! I remember the time when a high end GPU would cost 400 USD! I did not have the money back then but now I have 2 GTX 285 that make for a perfect high end Windows XP machine!
@francescovolpini3 жыл бұрын
after the 260 black edition review from RGIHD, i was missing this one. great stuff for such old cards!
@shaneeslick3 жыл бұрын
I've got a Gigabyte GTX260SOC in my XP PC, it is my Secret Weapon helping me Command my Army to Conquer my Enemies in C&C Generals 😁
@francescovolpini3 жыл бұрын
@@shaneeslick but nothing can beat a xfx black edition 260 events!
Lol I bought the gtx260 bfg maxcore 55 edition (the upgraded 216 one) and it's pretty cool lol
@shaneeslick3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDarkness344 the Extreme Factory OC ones are all cool, pity we don't get versions like this for 60 series anymore, also because of nVIDIA Rules only EVGA Kingpin & Galax HOF on the top of the line Die at crazy prices now exist as Extreme Factory OC 😢
@i2lgames3 жыл бұрын
I remember saving to buy this card as i was drooling over the review sites. After much consideration I finally later opted for the HD4870 1GB, i found it more impressive on paper. I still use my 4870 and i would love to get my hands on a GTX 285 just to see how the cards compare now that they have matured driver wise. If you have a 4870 it would be a nice theme to do a video.
@rushnerd2 жыл бұрын
Buying a my BFG TECH (rip) 280 at launch for $650 was a ton of fun when it was completely obsolete in like two years with the new DX11 cards. Kids have it too easy these days!
@eusebiosksipolitos25243 жыл бұрын
Very good video. You brightened the day for all retro hardware enthusiasts! Just keep it up, if you can do more AGP Videos card comparison! Thank you Phill....
@philscomputerlab3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@peejay713 жыл бұрын
Great video - and perfectly on time for me - as I have recently bought a GTX 285 and plan on assembling a "dream Windows XP" machine during this very weekend! Thank you for your work!
@MarcoGPUtuber3 жыл бұрын
GT 740 performance with 3090 power consumption! Lmao
@francescovolpini3 жыл бұрын
this shows how engineering has improved :)
@dimarzio93743 жыл бұрын
You can use it as a heater in winter
@h2oaddict283 жыл бұрын
You can put 3 of these inside of the same system and the 3090 would still pull more power with a slight overclock. Stop talking trash kid.
@MarcoGPUtuber3 жыл бұрын
@@h2oaddict28 You sound real fun at parties.
@francescovolpini3 жыл бұрын
@@h2oaddict28 you gotta be the smart kid of the family
@emp.splash3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video once again! Would love to see more of these types of graphics card focused videos with old high-end models like this GTX 285.
@virtualtools_30213 жыл бұрын
I'm still using a gtx 275 as my daily driver! (I had integrated motherboard graphics before but i got the 275 at a thrift store for 4.99)
@GameTechRefuge3 жыл бұрын
Still have my ASUS ENGTX 285. Love that card. Remember running Crysis on it like a boss.
@gonzo39153 жыл бұрын
Just got a real bargain, picking up two CRT Monitors for £10.00. They are becoming quite thin on the ground now and look and feel great at high FPS.
@philscomputerlab3 жыл бұрын
What a bargain! Working CRT monitors are rare these days.
@shaneeslick3 жыл бұрын
What a bargain, I've still got my CRT from my first P4 Dell PC, I hadn't used it for years but carried it through 4 house moves, I got it out a couple of months ago to test a GPU & it still works 😲
@kramnull89623 жыл бұрын
@@shaneeslick Oh God. My friend back in the 90's bought a Gateway with a 17" CRT. Crazy thing was it was 18"-22" deep/long, carrying it was like a ton, especially through doorways.....
@shaneeslick3 жыл бұрын
@@kramnull8962 Yeah even my 15" is super heavy compared to my LG27" 1080p, but nowhere near as heavy as my 27"CRT Tv I play Playstation 2 on 😍
@WouterVerbruggen3 жыл бұрын
I remember when this video card was the boss! Just started high/middle school, these cards where the dream back then. I'm also looking forward to the review of that CPU, one of the best ones for 1366 IMO
@awnordma3 жыл бұрын
The boot loader in vista+ is pretty solid for dual booting XP. Just install XP first and make sure it's on the first partition. I'll use EasyBCD to fix the naming on the boot menu, it can be done in on the command line too.
@hometownzero30193 жыл бұрын
Great video Phil. Can't wait..... Retro Windows Vista. So happy!
@darkauscus3 жыл бұрын
I still have my GTX 295 on display on my book shelve :) What an absolute monster it was back in the day ;) Hot AF doh !!
@MrKillswitch883 жыл бұрын
Got two rare EVGA Red Editions for which they only made around 500 units or so, great cards and something to treasure given the 295 in general is getting to be a bit rare now along with the 590.
@TheVanillatech3 жыл бұрын
I had 2 of those also. Remember benchmarking Space Marine and not believing the results I was recording. Figured ... why the fuck did I even buy TWO?! That PC lasted quite a while though. In fact the next time I upgraded it was to SLI 670's, and I still got some resale value on the 295's.
@Hdtjdjbszh3 жыл бұрын
I got one of these back in the day! saved up for a few months, coming from a 6600gtx and it was SUCH a leap
@duncfunk29983 жыл бұрын
This is what I have in my Windows XP gaming machine, which I built after being inspired by your channel. Picked it up for 10 euros!
@MaGiKRat4203 жыл бұрын
Id love to pay someone to build a custom retro pc for me. Wish i had the technical knowledge as well as the patience to build one of my own. Anyway, great video as always!
@GiSWiG3 жыл бұрын
Love the video. I think you should really look at some of the patches, hacks, or game engine ports to give some modern look to these games and many are not that hard to setup. For example, there is a site that has widescreen fixes for most NFS games. I play them in ultra wide 2560x1080 and they look awesome. GZDOOM will actually find your original DOOM games (including Heretic and Hexen) from your Steam or GOG library and it is click and play, even supports Sound Canvas VA. I turn off the filtering for that satisfying pixel look. Again, awesome in ultrawide. For Wolfenstine 3D, I hda to find the latest dev build. The released version still doesn't support 2560x1080. Farcry's fixes fix the water reflection issue in Win 10. Doom 3 however, XP with EAX is the way to go. Fixes that re-enable EAX do not sound right and causes graphical issues. Maybe it doesn't like RX 580? Don't have a modern nvidia card to compare.
@knghtbrd3 жыл бұрын
FWIW Phil, Creative Labs is the major company that pushed OpenAL, starting back with the Live and Audigy. It was seen as the future at the time.
@timneumann71842 жыл бұрын
Struck out on finding a GTX 285 in good condition, but found a NIB GTX 470 instead. Can't wait to try it out and see how it stacks up. Thanks for the informative video!
@ukmachinehead3 жыл бұрын
Still got my GTX260. Always remember it came with a 10 year warranty. The good old days.
@sachatrin29813 жыл бұрын
picked one up for 7€! Still a nice one
@ukmachinehead3 жыл бұрын
@@sachatrin2981 I remember when it become obsolete is was because it would not run the newest at the time Direct x. Just gave me a blank screen. But i am still pissed off modern crap they selling has such shit Warranty. They know it wont last long
@MrLukealbanese3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Phil. I'm looking forward to you overclocking that W3680!! Cheers Luke
@yakacm3 жыл бұрын
You are right about the price Phil, I still have a saved search for a GTX280 and 285, and I can't believe the prices that are being asked for them, my GTX295 cost me £13 BTW.
@itpugil3 жыл бұрын
This has been stuck in my watch later for almost a year or more now, I have my boss' GTX 260 right behind me as I finish watching this video. Pretty good card for older games.
@Wolf-km5wm2 жыл бұрын
Seeing Windows XP install screen.... Great memories. And of course great video 🙂👍
@roztoczynski.m3 жыл бұрын
Hello Phil! I actually made very similar build at the beginning of this year to celebrate Windows 7 EoL. I managed to install my copy of Windows 7 exactly on January 14 :) I have what I would consider top of the line 2009 components: Phenom II X2 550 unlocked to 4 cores and overclocked with HTT to 3,75GHz MSI 790FX-GD70 (basically the best MSI board I ever had. Even though I have mixed feeling about MSI boards, this one blows away AM3 Asuses and Gigabytes) 2x4GB of DDR3 memory @ 1600MHz CL9 1T GeForce GTX 280 at stock clocks undervolted from 1,18V to 1,11V Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi with 5,25" front panel I have it dual booting Windows XP and Windows 7. With 185.44 driver under Windows XP old games compatibility goes far beyond Far Cry ;) I tested all the games I know that make trouble under Windows 98 with late Nvidia drivers. Monster Truck Madness and Croc throw some artifacts because of crazy high framerates, but after forcing v-sync on for those titles, they work! And those are DirectX 5/6 games without any additional tweaks or patches. Need For Speed 3/5 works out of the box with NFS4 giving usual Windows XP problems that are fixable with additional patches. Midtown Madness 1/2 and Rayman 2 do not have any problems. Heck, even Star Wars I: Episode I Racer works and this one is known for its problems. Oh, and of course in every game D3D is enabled, so 3D acceleration is working properly. GTX280 gave me a lot of problems. When it arrived it just kept sitting at 105*C under 3D load no matter what. After disassembly I found that thermal pads are partially broken, but I didn't have replacements back then so I just repasted the GPU. That allowed me to use this card somewhat, but under artificial load (FurMark) it just kept sitting at 105*C. The reason is that GTX200/400/500 series of cards have heat spreaders just like modern CPUs and there is simple thermal paste used - just like with Intel's few generations of CPUs. I managed to take it off on my GTX 560 Ti but I do not want to repeat this procedure, as it requires a lot of force and during that process I thought that card won't work again. And I took IHS off from 3770k and 7800X CPUs before that to give you some perspective. Finally I settled for undervolted settings with custom fan curve stored in BIOS I made myself. That keeps temperature around 90*C in FurMark with 18*C ambient. Note that those cards precede any kind of turbo/throttling mechanisms, so it is going full blast in FurMark exceedings its TDP. Those temps are still very high comparing with old GPU-Z screenshots found on net (my cards GPU is 35*C hotter than its PCB, comparing that to ~10-15*C difference when card was new) and suggest problem with thermal compound between GPU and heat spreader. But hey, in games it sits around 70*C so I think thats ok :) All in all, this is great piece of hardware. Together with K6-III+/Voodoo 3/AWE32/GUS build it allows me to play all the games I ever played as a kid ranging from late 80' to 2010. All other games I can run just fine on my modern PC. GTX280 and its early drivers surprised me with great compatibility with older games I wasn't expecting. I just wanted to share my experience with you. Through years I have come to similar as yours conclusions and made very similar builds as yours. I enjoy watching your videos and appreciate involvement in many projects. Keep your good work Phil! :)
@MarcoGPUtuber3 жыл бұрын
My favourite Fridays are Phil Fridays!
@TheSliderW3 жыл бұрын
We still have it. My GF gave it a name based on the character in the sticker and the card served us well all those years. Now it's in a legacy support machine running xp and Vista which feels so perfect after watching this video . : ) I might consider adding the soundcard though, EAX is amazing.
@deadpearson89633 жыл бұрын
I have a GTX 295 with 2 chips. It was a beast a few years ago.
@matthewplehn42713 жыл бұрын
love the 1366 platform.....very nice video Phil!...you always seem to get things running right..ive got the GTX 275 and an ssd and cant get winxp to work right ....like ever..so i stick to win7....loved that you showed that you play dead space....i hit a wall in that game and raged quit..lmao...
@IronicTonic83 жыл бұрын
I bought a bunch of retro parts from someone recently and he gave me a GTX 285 2GB model for free along with a case, motherboard, CPU and RAM. I paid next to nothing for the bundle. I never knew there was a 2GB model until I came across this one.
@shaneeslick3 жыл бұрын
G'day Phil, That GTX285 looks well looked after, I have noticed a few on EBay at the moment between $50-$100AUD, every time I look for anything on Ebay I get distracted & end up looking at Graphics Cards 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@uncannyfox3 жыл бұрын
Hey! i just bought that card on craigslist for $10 USD. It's mint and came in it's original box and everything inside.
@ZeroHourProductions4073 жыл бұрын
Had this card from new back in the day. Long story short, this beauty was my daily driver for the best part of seven years. If not for its eventual failure, i probably would still have been using it, if not for the issue of its lack of dx11 preventing me from running Alien Isolation, and the unsolved crashing with team fortress 2.
@ScanlineCity3 жыл бұрын
The best part about this card is the ability to run older drivers giving you great compatibility with early xp games and even windows 98 games running on xp. Great video Phil!
@SleakaJ3 жыл бұрын
I recently managed to pickup my dads old GTX295 (effectively 2 x GTX275 running in SLI in one card) to replace the GTX260 in my retro gaming PC that I put together after finding your channel a few months ago.
@MamasBasementEnt3 жыл бұрын
RE: NFS Underground on GOG. Unfortunately it'd be a nightmare to get on there as it's not just the game that's a factor. The cars, tuner brands, and soundtrack would all need to be re-licensed before it could be sold again. It does suck for us that'd love to play games like that again, but just an unfortunate reality of games with licensed content. Same reason none of the Gran Turismo games were on the Playstation Classic.
@excess.subiefl0w3 жыл бұрын
That and the second game is the only one to trigger ISP to send emails when pirated hahahahha
@BITCOIlN3 жыл бұрын
It's good to be a pirate.
@armando1is1great3 жыл бұрын
Yea things like this really are the best arguement for pirating, at least for preservation's sake
@TheDeeplyCynical3 жыл бұрын
Kind of ironic valve removed the DRM from the Steam version of HL2. The sole purpose of Steam in the early days was to be HL2's DRM. Gabe Newell was HATED for it.
@cppctek3 жыл бұрын
i loved this. i have a vintage alienware p4 extreme system, whats the best perioid correct gpu to use for it? ill be dual bootin xp and 10. and whats a good sound card under 100 for a logitech z5300 in windows 10? thanks in advance i absolutely get so excited and happy when i see videos from you because it brings back such nostalgia
@smiththers23 жыл бұрын
i had an EVGA 285 back in the day, was a great card!
@RdandTrk13 жыл бұрын
When I graduated from college, I used some of the gift money I got to treat myself to an XFX GTX 285. It was a great card. Though it was not cheap, it was still way cheaper than modern day "80" class GTX cards. I wanna say I paid around $300 U.S. new for it. My memory could be a little off. I remember playing Dead Space on it as well. The original Left for Dead got a lot of play too. It was a great card, though toward the end of its life, it had some problems with overheating. Great memories.
@monham50413 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil. I still have 2 of these video cards. 1 is in my email pc and runs most videos pretty well even on Windows 10. Not used as a gaming video card, just a display. Things have moved on in the games world. Nice to see a review on it though. Thanks. F. E. A. R. was one of my favourite games in its time. Still a great game. Cheers, Mon from Brisbane
@GuybrushThriftweed3 жыл бұрын
Had such a great time with my 285!
@FatheredPuma813 жыл бұрын
I actually used one of these for a month in 2016 and it actually ran the games I played pretty well at 768p. I think I took it out of my computer because it it struggled/sluggish at browsing the web. For Mirror's edge it drops down to 45 FPS with PhysX enabled when you first meet your sister and the guards break a bunch of glass at least at 768p. Don't want to shill but I have a playlist with a bunch of other titles running on the card like ArmA 3 and BF4. playlist?list=PL_fNFvrD3ynm-ktEhdVz5y4IDoF3XMJqp
@ruxandy3 жыл бұрын
Good one, Phil, enjoyed the video very much! Regarding the GTX 750/750Ti recommendation, they are not very good for a Windows XP retro PC. I actually had a GTX 760 in my Core i5 2500k retro PC, and I recently replaced it with a GTX 285 because of visual & performance issues in many games (in Far Cry, besides missing/corrupt reflections even in Windows XP, there were serious single digit FPS drops in certain areas). The problem, as always, are the drivers. For the GTX 7xx cards you need much newer drivers (3xx.xx), which break compatibility with older games, while the GTX 2xx can use older 18x.xx drivers that work great with games as early as 2001. So, from personal experience, if you want an "ultimate" WinXP retro PC, stay away from newer cards. :)
@philscomputerlab3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on that older drivers, or drivers closer to the year of games, are the best option. Bit I haven't had issues with the GTX 750, but then I only test a handful of games...
@WellBeSerious123 жыл бұрын
I loved the Vista testing. You should've also used WSUS Offline Update (older version) to offline-install all necessary updates (for XP and Vista).
@philscomputerlab3 жыл бұрын
I shall check out that project!
@m.r.a.allesklar45973 жыл бұрын
RADEON 6800XT Killer‼️ 🤪
@RuruFIN3 жыл бұрын
But what about GeForce 6800 XT? ;)
@kramnull89623 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the other day. Just how many grandmothers and even mothers are going to buy a 6850 or 6870 graphics card for their grandkids and kids, thinking they are doing something awesome. Just because Google pulls up 6850 and 6870 when you google search 6800xt...
@ssplayer3 жыл бұрын
I still have one of these cards lying in a box of old computer parts.
@theepicemoji56023 жыл бұрын
I never owned a gtx 285, I always grew up on console, but I tried PC for a change of pace recently, and I like all the customization that PC has to offer. I like that you can play older games from the ps1 -ps2 era and newer games too
@InfiniteClouds3 жыл бұрын
At the time, I had a 275 GTX CO-OP, it had a 275 and a 250 on a single card. The 250 dedicated for physX. It had the Joker on it and came bundled with Arkham Asylum. Unfortunately it died a few years back... The 200 series do not have good life span unfortunately I think this is still part of the cracked bga solder era. I did pick up two 285s a few years ago to stash away for Windows XP but the 700 series already seems to perform so we'll for XP haven't run into compatibility issues.
@vicchopin3 жыл бұрын
You did use this card on one of those builds from the past, right Phil? Gotta say the artwork on the thing is pretty cool. Doesn't beat the asus ASUS EN7900GTX king kong card, though! :P
@TitanCatX3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm loving your videos. Been watching them lately. I hope you can also test the R9 285 from 2014. Would highly appreciate it! Take care.
@philscomputerlab3 жыл бұрын
I admit that have far less Radeon cards. I do have HD 7770 which works great for XP. I also have, I a R9 380, but no XP and Vista drivers for that one. I believe the R9 200 series is the final one with such drivers...
@peramitic26263 жыл бұрын
Nice video Phil. My curent xp gaming build is an Fujitsu esprimo c2d e8400 4gb ddr2 use xp32 bit so limitation is 3gb and radeon xfx HD6850 1gb ddr5. 500gb hdd very cheap and perform well.
@SudosFTW3 жыл бұрын
Recent Rufus versions do the work for you to get an XP ISO bootable and working without any headaches. Easy2Boot didn't always work for me with XP ISOs with netbooks, for instance. the Rufus blessed drives had no issue. Not sure if you've known that but it's a good thing to know now in 2020.
@philscomputerlab3 жыл бұрын
Easy2Boot has a very convenient way of dealing with the AHCI SATA drivers, doesn't need slipstreaming or any integrating.
@ramdisknet3 жыл бұрын
Also, the ATi Radeon X1950XTX worked in XP and Vista!
@garchamp98443 жыл бұрын
Also, have you got any opinion on the unofficial WinXP SP4? It upgrades your XP installation with all fixes and updates released until XP EOL, and while it is stabile and easy to use I see a massive hit in my single threaded CPU-Z benchmark score.
@philscomputerlab3 жыл бұрын
For gaming, and staying offline, I don't think it's needed!
@ThePipeFox3 жыл бұрын
I had this exact same card back in the day. Sadly, it was overheating and I had to remove the shroud and slap a couple of 12cm fans on top of the heatsnik to manage the heat. I used it all the way up to the end of 2012 when I upgraded to a 660 Ti and all my games ran on it pretty well.
@GiSWiG3 жыл бұрын
I have an EVGA GTX 285 in my Phenom II X6 1100T with 8GB RAM and the X-Fi Fatality (probably the same card but with metal shield). Talk about overkill. Farcry at Ultra and 1600x1200 never dips below 100 FPS. Another good build to do is a high speed Core 2 Duo or Quad, generic DDR2 or DDR3 and a GTX 465. All spare parts I got free and really cheap.
@MrReddragongamingHD3 жыл бұрын
I finally pulled the trigger and put together a very cheap but capable Windows XP system after watching your videos for years. I ended up going with: -Core2Quad Q6600 @3Ghz -4GB DDR2 800Mhz RAM -250GB Seagate HDD -Radeon HD 7570 1GB GDDR5
@philscomputerlab3 жыл бұрын
Nice! If I can make a suggestion, go with a dual core like the E8600 which runs at 3.33 GHz.
@macktheinterloper3 жыл бұрын
I have two of them in my basement somewhere, along with an X58 Classified and an i7 980X. Man, what a kiler combo that was at the time, the 980X overclocked like a champ, I remember running it @ 4.6Ghz. Pretty sure if you hooked up that CPU and mobo to a decent contemporary GPU it would still be good enough to play all but the latest games.
@likeclockwork64butbetter583 жыл бұрын
You can unlock the majority of the Very High Settings of Crysis for DX9 in Windows XP. I remember doing this with a HD3870 in Windows XP. It still runs better than the DX10 version because dof and motion blur were DX10 features but who really misses these things?
@SonicRainbow3 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me that I actually have a BFG Tech GTX 285 in the closet. A relative was cleaning out some of their old PC parts and gave it and an EVGA 8800GT (Along with their old AM3 build with a Creative Xfi sound card) to me sometime last year because they knew I liked messing around with old PC parts and they were upgrading their PC. I really need to play around with it sometime but I have other retro PC projects taking up my time, as well as building some modern PCs and just otherwise being preoccupied in general. I thought about maybe pairing it with a LGA 775 motherboard with a Core 2 Quad (or the AM3 motherboard, haven't decided) that used to be my sister's old PC if I were to ever play around with it. Something to think about for the future I suppose. I'm looking forward to messing around with another Xfi that I have set to be in a build I have planned for the near future though, I'll have to look at the Xfi driver you mentioned in the video.
@mesterak3 жыл бұрын
I have one of these cards and it works really well. I picked it up a couple years ago for cheap.
@PROSTO4Tabal3 жыл бұрын
yes, enthusiast graphics - good direction for hardcore gamer
@wishusknight30093 жыл бұрын
I run a set of 280s in SLI but use the e8400 on P45 chipset. My I7 940 is right now a file server. And the e8400 is a little bit under powered but still does alright. It can play most of these games with pretty much the same experience. Windows XP will start to have ram addressing limitations with some games and settings on SLI as well, but for the most part it works ok. Reducing my CPU to an E7200 (2.93ghz 1066 bus 3mb cache) is slightly less performant than the E8400 but still provides a great experience. SLI however takes a larger hit though. And I am curious to dig out a lower core 2 and see how much SLI overhead becomes a factor.
@techalex19923 жыл бұрын
I could fry an egg on it back in 2015 when i used it...that card was hot as hell. 85+
@spazjackrabbit613 жыл бұрын
if you use far cry silentpatch on modern os, you can get water reflections and it fixes the issue and i've heard that dx10 optimization is horrible in fc2 and by the way, you cannot get race driver grid anymore on digitally due to expired licenses
@philscomputerlab3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info on the patch! Good to know :) Gutted that Race Driver Grid is gone. I hate this licence stuff always messing with our games.
@ruxandy3 жыл бұрын
I used the patch recently, and I gotta say, it's not perfect. It still has issues with disappearing and weird-looking reflections.
@yakacm3 жыл бұрын
I found on my XP machine, with the original Far Cry DVD, that the water issue and all the messed up graphics issue seems to happen on Nvidia cards, as much as I love Nvidia, my XP machine is skt478 so it's AGP, I have a 7800GS, a 6600GT and an MX440 and they were all the same, but the problems don't appear with my ATI cards, 3650, 4650 and 3850 all ran Far Cry really well with all the graphics in tact.
@spazjackrabbit613 жыл бұрын
@@ruxandy still worth trying out
@Knogle23 жыл бұрын
Good review as always :) Just got hold of 2 x 285 GTX's + a 460 gtx here in Denmark for 76 AUD (converted) including shipping. A 3rd 285 were up for free, but sadly only via pick up, making it too costly. Going to try some SLI, but would have been fun with a triple setup
@LuhhRee3 жыл бұрын
A Core 2 Quad Q8600+ 4 GB of DDR3 and a GTX 285 for 2009 would've been a good build
@raresmacovei83822 жыл бұрын
A friend got in 2009 the 2nd best thing: Q8300 and a HD 4890 1 GB. It lasted him well enough 4 years
@clintonswart66703 жыл бұрын
Hey Phil. I realize this comment is not aligned with the content of todays video. Anyways, can you post up some content about modern windows 10 sound cards? I think in general a lot of people rely on the built in chipset. Can you possible link to good videos or consider making a video about this topic? Are there advantages to running a dedicated sound card in win10? Are there newer audio gaming codecs that require a dedicated card? Anyways, thank you advance and have a great weekend.
@MasterDrood3 жыл бұрын
Love the 285/280 card, my dreamed xp machine may have two in SLI with core2 and 4gb ddr2 at 1066. BTW great video Phil thank you
@Dex99SS3 жыл бұрын
I never even considered it... I used my 980x up to a pretty recent time, with up to a GTX 1080 without ANY bottleneck whatsoever. Usually it was paired with a 1060 6GB and then a 1070 for a bit. The 1080 was a test more or less, and it tested beyond well. But I then moved on to the current ivy e system that I still use to this day, with a 2070... with zero bottleneck whatsoever as well of course (at all res this time, not just 1440 and up). Which will soon have a 3070, and surely do just fine with it as well. The next step up will be 6th or 7th gen tops... but likely I'll skip that, keep with ivy e for a good bit longer, and jump into a pcie gen 4 system once there are a handful of them in the used pile as well. It's already proven that the 30 series don't saturate a 3.0 backbone, so being 4.0 compatible really means nothing. Like having an AGP card with a PCI to AGP bridge on it... yeah it's agp, but it's also not... at all. Yeah these new ones are 4.0... but they also aren't ... at all. But I never considered using my 980x for an XP system... I have all the parts laying around, even a GTX 260 with the oddball 1.76GB DRAM from an Alienware A R1. This with all the slower ddr3 I have laying around, or even the 920, 930, or 960 cpu's ... they'd all make for a great fit. And maybe then... MAYBE THEN... I could finally play Rocket Jockey. Not sure if it'll install on XP or if I have to go all the way back to 9X. . . IF it MUST be 9X, then I'll continue to accrue all the bits I want for the perfect retro machine, but if it could work with a 6C/12T monster, the same core and thread count I've stuck with ever since, with Sandy and then Ivy and then Ivy e, then that'd be amazing! What a beast that'd be for blasting through any older game!
@misterPAINMAKER3 жыл бұрын
Your voice is so relaxing!
@kristophertadlock7793 жыл бұрын
I played all of my games at 1680x1050 back in the day on my Acer x223w monitor. It was no Samsung IPS with 1900x1200 resolution but it was still pretty snazzy for the time! I had the HD 4890 1ghz edition and an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T at the time. Not quite as fast but still a great setup for Vista!
@neil12663 жыл бұрын
Phil..love the channel and looking to get back into xp gaming,have you had any issues using xp in terms of getting it activated as apparently it cannot be done anymore iss what I'm seeing on the net but I am already half way through an xp build🤦🏼♂️
@steevf3 жыл бұрын
I still have my GTX 285. I'm was still using it up till 2018 when I finally replaced it with a GTX 1080-Ti. The interesting thing about the GTX 285 is how it compares to my AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Vega 8 graphics. The little AMD APU slightly out performs the GTX 285. in F.E.A.R. Half Life 2 and Doom 3. We have come a long way.
@drgratao3 жыл бұрын
Where are you Phill? I'm missing you and your videos...
@ThunderKat Жыл бұрын
64 bit and DX10 support on win7 was a good reason to upgrade back then... You should still get DX9 performance if you run compatibility mode on XP or enable it on game menus. Great entry card to play Crysis back in the day, I couldn't afford one but the AMD HD-4890 wasn't far apart on performance and for 1080p jump the 1GB VRAM became part of the requirements on games.
@toshineon3 жыл бұрын
Even though I know you said Crysis ran poorly on DX10, that is actually accurate to how I remember it running on high-end computers for quite a few years after it launched.