The "O-Jing"

[@rdavidr]

I know I said "let me know what youd do differently" but damn, everyone is all of a sudden a drum physicist lol

[@LanceCampeau]

Hey... you asked.... just sayin'

[@hazenstribling2646]

you should re-name it the Ring o'jing

[@Shadowhurtz]

rdavidr Not any kind of expert, but from what I know of force propagation, the problem is that the jingles are too close to a dampening region (the rim). If you have spare material, try not cutting the center out, and place the 8-2 pattern as close to the center as you can make it.

[@TheZguitarboy67]

Dave, i started watching your videos a couple months ago with your $20 drum series. I've Been watching your vids since and you inspired me to start playing drums so I went and bought a pretty decent kit and have started playing- and thanks to you, I love playing it. Keep up the great videos.

[@galaxcywolf9585]

rdavidr tbh bro idk if u notice when u were playing but, its actually a great way to pice up accents. u mentioned hittin near the ring wich makes the jingles respond. one u learn when and how to use that lil tid bit of spice. its could really add some flavor. i suggest u give it another go and really play with it on some jazz or funk or just something edgy or groovy

[@Addrum]

Maybe its better with the jingles only responding when you hit between them. Kinda add color if you hit there when doing ghost notes.

[@CaalamusTube]

I agree... options are always nice!

[@evanstahl6734]

i think its cool and since it doesn't jingle on every hit it gives you more options than just a jingly snare

[@aTF2player]

Ngl i actually love how it sounds right now, even with just that tiny bit of jingle in normal playing, when you play with one hand grooving on the jingles and one hand playing normally it sounds fuckin dope

[@rubenkenig8435]

Perhaps you would get more jingle action if the O was fatter and the jingles could be positioned closer to the centre of the snare where the head amplitude is greater. It might be easier to play between them too, but there would be more dampening as well.

[@maui.tech.0415]

I always listen to your SoundCloud playlist all day and night. You're awesome. Keep up the good work

[@Jayphillips1988]

I LOVE the sound the ring gives your snare. Just subtle enough to not over power but still has the capacity to play rhythms on it (That ending sounded SICK) I wouldn't say fail at all. If you don't want it, ship it to me :)

[@GeebsBurnerAccount]

i like that they only work when hit the space in between the jingles, because you can still play the snare as just as a snare, but add the jingles sound when you want to mix it in.

[@alanvelasquez837]

Those beats are killer man

[@chickenbeforeegg]

I've got a suggestion for a video: make a custom side-sticking wood block!

[@jaredmcintosh4178]

Even with just the ring alone, that's the best sounding snare I've heard you play. Great tone!

[@ValTek_Armory]

I think it's pretty versatile as it is since you can choose to make the jingles more prevalent

[@codymccarthy6895]

I love it i think it has that really sudden clap to the snare even though it has echo

[@rdavidr]

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[@rowanwhiteford6693]

rdavidr it's awesome notification squad

[@tigsyxd_1201]

rdavidr i think for this video the problem was it was to light for its size and flimsy? agree? disagree?

[@tigsyxd_1201]

Rowan Whiteford your the first other rowan I've seen since mr bean, our name is so rare for me to come across haha ( i know my you tube account isnt rowan but my real name is rowan c***t) awsome dude!

[@aaassassinlokk8848]

rdavidr hey man! I'm looking for a $100-$150 5 piece drum set. Have any ideas where I can get one? Also I'm a RVA person myself!

[@James-jy8dy]

rdavidr put the jingle ring on a drum with more overtones

[@soybajista4567]

I think It's totally great! It does muffle the snare, and gives you a little better tone with the jingles, and the option to make them sound

[@aarongrover5835]

that actually sounds pretty good

[@tdrum21]

Still has cool sounds & uses. Dig the sound of the snare grooves you were kicking at the end

[@JulianFernandez]

Dampener with jingles. Not a failure in my book. Put it upside down and play in between the jingles if it´s more responsive that way... Nice groove btw.

[@ThePoliticalSpotlight]

dude... I think it turned out perfectly! I could hear it... I think it added just enough! I can dig it!

[@wellmaxmedia]

I actually love the way it sounds

[@SamVieiraGuitar]

Man its not a failure at all!! That snare sounds so nice!!! It damps the head so the o ring makes it even fatter! I can hear the jingles when you hit in the middle but obviously in between sounds louder but I think thats a good thing so you can choose when to hit them! You groove was nice as well to demo this thing!😀

[@theoforde-stiegler]

I actually think that the fact you have to basically play the jingles is an advantage! You still have your for snare drum sound,and now a secondary instrument you can choose to play or not play in the jingle ring!

[@jackcarrack]

Sounds amazing as it is! Definitely going to make one myself. I like how it only reacts when you play near the jingles. Would be perfect for the quirky set up I've got for part of the gig I'm touring at the moment. Thanks for the inspo!

[@christopherosmulski1033]

it's pretty cool. it works like an auxiliary snare sound

[@noahcramer9230]

I love your videos. keep up the good work!

[@devinbuchhorn]

"O-Jing".......NAILED IT!

[@Slimeslayer25]

I like the sound of it when you play between the jingles I might have to make one for myself

[@Gretschnut]

Pretty cool sound actually and particularly nice when playing the stick on the ring and then back to the center of the snare. Very nice groove on your part.

[@yeahmanidontknow]

This is cool if you don't want the jingley sound for most of a song then can decide when u want it

[@johnnykourtev]

Hey david. Love youre vids!! Keep it up!. I dont know if its just my speakers but i really think that this "o-jing" sounds really good. I think its the fact that the jingles are so subtle but just enough to make an impact on the sound of the snare! i Love it personally. Thanks man You Rock!!

[@geoffreyboener]

You still never explained the creation of the glorious Jumbo Gel.

[@BuriedAudioUK]

I really like the subtle ching to the snare for some nice clean overtones to it, maybe quite nice for jazz

[@hmstack6049]

Sounds awesome! I can't tell it's fail. I think that little jingle response is exactly I'd have so that I could switch to them any moment without having trouble neither jingles doing too much sound when i dont want them to nor me placing the ring every time I want to play them.

[@RedeyePerc]

Try out a wedge shape that you can jam up against the far rim. Then you can hit it when you want the jingle sound and lay off it when you don't. I have a cymbal chunk wedge with jingles and it works great.

[@Doinstuffman]

I'm actually a big fan. Good BFSD substitute, and you have the option of enhancing ghosts notes. Plus, that last groove you played hitting between the jingles sounded fucking badass.

[@angelcastellanos4304]

It actually sounded good when you played in between the jingles and snare good stuff

[@jimhayes3225]

I heard the jingles while you were hitting center of the head. Sounds good

[@gingerfloof777]

I like it, kind of like a hidden percussion piece.

[@wesleypage5355]

sound great to be honest, good alternating off of the snare and the part with the tambourine pieces

[@DrewKane]

The smaller rings will fit around a cymbal's bell. Sounds neat.

[@JakeDrummer666]

I love the sound of this snare drum though!

[@brandonquod4910]

Maybe im in the minority here but i loved that sound, it was a great sound normally and it was really cool that you could get a cool "accent" sound if you hit inbetween the jingles

[@letsgobubblegum]

that beat you did with your right hand playing on the jingle ring and the left on the two and four was dope as fuck. I definitely agree with you that the sound is subdued but that's actually kind of awesome. you can leave it on the snare and get a normal snare sound but by changing your attack spot on the snare you now have a lot more sound options available to you.

[@hingadingadurgen1446]

Hey David... try taking a kick drum and switch the beater to its plastic side and put a quarter on the kick drum where the beater hits... Cheers from Austria!

[@pgalatioto]

Nice craftsmanship as always. Rdavidr. Maybe you could put snare strands along the bottom outer edge to get the vibration to travel more throughout? Idk dude. Sounds great when you played it as a hihat

[@williamdancer5649]

6:08 - 6:26 sounded really sweet. I agree that it sounds best when you hit in between the jingles.

[@MrGatoDiablo]

Even though it is typically null when hit in the middle the slight accent of it from hitting between the jingles is enough to give it an interesting depth, even though slight it is still apparent enough to where it gives the effect needed i like it

[@logannewhouse2896]

I'm sure someone has already recommended this, but I'll say it anyways. since you got more response from the jingles by hitting the actual ring, you should get better response if the cutout wasn't a ring but was a disc that covered the entire surface of the head. this would stimulate the jingles more, but has obvious drawbacks such the decreased rebound it would cause.

[@Alvin-bmw645ci]

Great idea.

[@jacobmoody5788]

I like it the way you made it, I think it's good that you can just get a straight snare sound without having to take it off of the drum, it seems like they were a little too hard to hit though maybe twist the ring so the jingles are facing you to make them easier to hit?

[@RoeShamBoe]

if you half the width of the ring itself (the drumhead material) so that the edges of the jingles are in contact with the snare head you might get more action from them

[@StephenGheen]

Maby if you make the head more thin, then you will fet more response

[@humdrumvideositalia165]

Hey, could you give us some tips on how to tune the snare? I love the way your snares sound!

[@benjaminbundy-weishaupt5912]

I liked the name o-ring tambourine jingle thing better

[@doragraham71]

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[@dinosaur-csgoplayer789]

love you dad

[@rowanwhiteford6693]

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[@beefcouch-s6u]

lol

[@RichardLopez-wb9vf]

put a washer in between each metal piece

[@CurtyPurty57]

I think it'd be really cool to make an O-Ring with jingles for a bass drum. I mean it'd require a lot of jingles but I think it'd be pretty neat to put it in the Emad slot thing

[@tylerpons5887]

I thought it sounded fine. It was cool to have the option of the jingle sound.

[@scottjones2564]

heck ya I can hear it I just might make one myself. kinda jazzy. I have a ideas I've been working on for a bass drum beater I'll send them to ya when I finish them up ... rock on

[@RobotequeMusic]

You need to elevate the jingles on a pin/bolt so they can jingle. This is like putting a cymbal on a trampoline and expecting it to ring. It needs to be lifted on a stand to resonate.

[@dfunk311]

I think that sounded bad ass!!!

[@Led198957]

In my poor opinion you should add jingles to a circular sheet like those in the beginning of the video, like the Fat one, instead of a cutted ring. I think that a ring can't catch all the vibes from the center of the snare head; or you can make a smaller circular sheet (like a 6"or a 8"), add some jingles on the external line and place it in the middle of the snare head, so you can hit it in the center, and the jingles will be closer to the hitting area. Sorry for my terrible English, and Keep it up, you're great! Cheers from Italy! :)

[@jakemorse535]

I think it turned out cool. It's just enough of an accent alone, but when you were grooving on the snare, is was even cooler. I'd like to hear the snare with no ring and then dampened with the ring/jingles. Snare sounded pretty thick.

[@candybycameo2194]

it sounds really really good as an o ring, id just take the jingles off of it and put them on the smaller one for the hi hat or something

[@motoakiabe991]

Awesome! I tried to make The "O-Jing". So I think that if you make the snare a low pitch, you will get better effect.

[@MrEkaterian]

Sounds damn good if you ask me

[@pokemonyellow150]

Maybe add something to raise the ring up away from the head between each jingle so they have more room to move around? So it would look kinda wavey when sitting on the head

[@alexntemperley]

Hi rdavidr Thanks for another interesting video and concept. Considering the jingles only respond when you strike close to them, have you thought about using a bigger O-ring? The one you grab at the 42 second mark for example. The jingles could be closer to the center of the drum and may have a better response.

[@LeviLewisDrums]

beautiful

[@dheepshemare5833]

If anything I think it works better, you have the option to do both without changing snares! And again sick music.

[@La19930]

Rdavidr... May I suggest putting this jingle o ring on a cymbal? Or even on a piccolo snare turned timbale... May have a great sound... Try it and make a video of it... btw, excellent channel!

[@dustida]

You should cut the center into an x that goes across the center of the drum so when you hit the middle you're hitting the bells head and making them vibrate

[@3405456]

Have you thought about about drilling a new snare head and installing them directly in the head?

[@aidencunha735]

Great vid. Seems like it was yesterday the you put a bunch of rivets in a cymbal celebrating 5k. Now it's 75k. Congrats man!

[@rdavidr]

lol that was for 50k

[@willsmith5426]

you should totally put more jingles in between the spaces man

[@CBRansom]

You never know until you try. Maybe offset the jingles to the inner edge so they have direct contact with batter head?

[@sandabal]

I think it sounds sick even though it isn't what you had intended

[@ionesally6695]

@rdavidr can you do a concert bass drum and a metal(any metal) snare drum build too? love your channel man keep it up

[@MoritzLuzner]

i build the exact same thing some yeare ago but i have ten pairs of jingles on it and you can really hear them. of course they aren't as loud as the snare but they kind of enhance the sound.

[@diogoalmeidavisuals]

Put some washers in between the jingles. the added distance will make them ring without having to hit so hard.

[@joeystultz]

I wonder if making the ring wider, or having it be full size, would give it more jingle response.

[@br1an_b]

What would this jingle ring sound like if you put it on your ride cymbal and experimented with different types of hits?

[@tikidrummerpoi]

Might just be the thickness of the head you're already using (or the tension...or both) plus the thickness of the Mylar of the fiberskyn heads...may really mess with the resonance and the response of the jingles...maybe a thinner bit of head material? Otherwise, I like that you can choose your moments when using the jingles or not...keeps that hi hat hand on the hihats or elsewhere so your groove is consistent. Not a fail at all Sir!

[@tsvtsvtsv]

i know this vid is kinda old but i've seen this and the BFSD snare bourine and wondered why there was no suspension for the jingles. if you put a nut or something to raise them by like a half inch or something they should have more room to vibrate. ultimately i think this type of mod would be most effective in the form of a clamp that goes over the outside of the shell and has bells in a circle around the outside of the rim. that might be a fun project for someone who has more time and resources than i do

[@ZachKyew]

I would use a thinner plastic. Make it easier for the jingles to vibrate more, rather than just jump up and down. Maybe bigger holes for the rivets, too.

[@paulturgeon5803]

Nice groove.

[@davidstoneback6159]

that sounded awesome man. its probably better that way so you could just use it as an accent when needed. if they jingled every time the ear would just get used to them but using them only when you wabt to keeps it exciting to the ear.

[@jankevinbautista]

If you have a soldering iron, that can also be an easy way to punch holes in plastic.

[@matthiasmckoy8427]

I like the fact that he uses different type of branded drum heads. It might be ghetto but you save money

[@RealGengarTV]

I like it :) It's something that could be left on the snair more or less permanently and just played when whe want was high.. I'd imagine this would be fine for some fusion drum'n'bass or jungle EDM style music

[@tommylee85]

as a non-physicist I can just say it sounds perfect!

[@semsticks]

love it had a great sound understand you ran out but very cool when complete killer sound

[@seanmurrayandtourettes2827]

maybe if you trim more off the sides to make it not as snug to the rim it would have more give to the jingles. or maybe use the thickness and place the jingles on the side almost like a zip zag pattern so it's all clustered together more which may cause the vibration reaction to reach the jingles more.

[@Red-X4117]

how bout that ninja stack. You know you wanna give it to me

[@thearchives]

Make a half-moon holder that hangs the jingles over the side of the snare, with pressure sensitive pads touching snare head.

[@CaalamusTube]

Spread the Jingles out a touch, so you can use it for the purpose you demonstrated... & have the option of orienting it toward the part of the Snare closer to your body... but not having to worry about striking the Jingles. Or would that place them prohibitively far from your Head Mic?

[@666Hazard666]

I swear the Attack drumhead company made coated heads with jingles attached.. I think I saw them in a copy of DRUM magazine like 20 years ago or something.. if you had a marching snare head cranked up then attaching jingles directly to it in this way could work well.

[@DefkalionDs]

As always a well done video! Maybe you could use on the floor tom, to give it a more "clickish" sound? Btw, have you considered making a nesting drum kit?? :D

[@logannewhouse2896]

I have an idea that would probably be a huge waste of materials even though it would probably sound good. my idea is to take a drum head and melt holes around the perimeter much like an Evans HD dry. then you could put rivets through the actual head, and definitely get the jungle sound. However, the big drawback with this idea is that the jungle sound would not be easily removable.

[@Kambodrambo]

You should find a way to make drum hoop into a tambourine, imagine how dope rim shots would be!