The Ocarina of Time Iceberg: explained

[@MishKoz]

*DETAILED TIMESTAMPS* 1:38 Timeline Split 2:10 Blue Cucco 2:25 Song of Storms Paradox 2:46 Dead Dampé 3:03 Composer Brothers 3:31 Mario Portraits in Zelda's Room 3:50 Poe Collector - Guard from Child timeline 4:19 Shark breaking the bars in the diving pool 4:49 Faces in the flowers in Zelda's room 5:02 Beating the Running Man 5:24 "L is Real" in Dodongo's Cavern 5:57 Finding the Triforce 6:36 Talking Skeleton in the Well 6:54 Islamic Censorship 8:20 Bloody St. Andrew's Cross 8:40 Fetuses in Lakeside Lab 9:06 Missing Castle Town folk 9:28 Bowser Necklaces 9:40 Upside-down Triforce in Temple of Time 9:53 Triforce transition 10:02 Manual Jump 10:32 Disk Icon 10:54 Ura is Master Quest 11:21 All Darknuts are Gerudos 11:40 Malon is an Alcoholic 12:12 Forbidden Heart Container in Gerudo Fortress 12:50 Aria uses Mario 64 model format 14:02 Hallway of Time 14:30 Talking Door 14:41 Red Object in early Tower area 14:56 Ganon's Castle hub world 15:50 Early Dodongo's Cavern head 16:05 Early Zelda 64 music wiped from existence 16:15 Navi's early functionality 16:42 Religion Wars 17:22 Early Sky Tower is Adult Link's Purgatory 17:37 Unicorn Fountain's true use 17:57 Hidden Wind Temple 18:11 Triforce item use 18:21 Leftover Ura functionality 19:02 Reed item 19:15 Mirinda item in Kakariko Village 19:34 N-coins 19:54 Missing Townsfolk in early Castle Town 20:32 Early low-poly NPCs 20:49 Running Man in Mario Sunshine 21:15 The Aria Apparition 25:39 Zelda 64 on N64DD 26:22 N64DD was cancelled to keep Zelda 64 from the public 26:40 N64DD personalizes Disk Games 27:35 Duel Wielding Bronze Hammer Upgrade 27:57 Ganon only truly dies in V1.0

[@crabohato4954]

Yankee with no iceberg

[@brig.badger2896]

why'd you change your name/pfp?

[@kikimoraharpie]

Hey Mish, you missed Deep Water there

[@tommytomthms5]

Hey please please PLEASE stop saying "track 76 is islamic" that is FALSE, NOT TRUE. It is chanting but for some other religion, it has NOTHING to do with islam at all!!!

[@MishKoz]

@@tommytomthms5 if you can explain why they are saying "Bismillah" and "Allah" throughout the sample, I will believe you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXXblaGPZ5eIn8k

[@rchqrd3900]

You know Mish got bored while reading the Aria apparittion when in the background he added mario rapping

[@gmirkoi5067]

21

[@Sockren]

@@gmirkoi5067 whats nine plus ten

[@gmirkoi5067]

@@Sockren you know the answer

[@crisismoon880]

I was doing online classes and in the corner of my eye I saw Mario rapping and it made me laugh

[@TofuSG98]

TwennyWun

[@datman6882]

Smh I can’t believe the iceberg creator forgot to add that Dampé haunts you in real life after you get the hookshot

[@thereaIjesuschrist]

He sleeps with me sometimes

[@ScrawnyTreeDemon]

@@thereaIjesuschrist Damn dude, that's pretty gay

[@bananabuns1369]

i have to keep paying him to dig back up my stuff, i wanted to make soup, and he fucking put all my copper layered pots in my backyard! i had to pay him around fifty dollars to finally get all the pots back, and then he put all of my goddamn spoons into the ground!

[@CrayolaSniffer8008135]

That's way better than "durr aria is a creepypasta woman that lives in your cartridge"

[@ProfessorWhooves11]

He keeps dressing as himself for Halloween and floats around trying to dig up graves that are just decorations around the houses.

[@deathrod123]

At the bottom of the iceberg lies Pokemon Crystal No Damage Challenge Part 4

[@ax8914]

🤫

[@marvelousball]

What did ever happen to that?

[@MishKoz]

@@marvelousball College classes and stuff started back up, and I devoted a bunch of time into making this video. One day, when I finally have time, I'll stream again lol

[@TheSektor47]

Great. I hate this comment. Thanks.

[@CoolGamer-qz5zp]

It happened!

[@aeroburger]

This iceberg was missing some key things, the "I love you" debug text, the arwing used to test z-targeting, and some things I'm blanking on rn

[@aeroburger]

also that Aria creepypasta was interesting until the dead nintendo employee bit. what a way to ruin that

[@aeroburger]

I'm surprised the gold cart wasn't mentioned at all either

[@tuskoub]

Also the very early Zelda 64 builds where Link fights a Metal Link ig

[@aeroburger]

@@tuskoub Oh yeah, pretty sure that was the same metal texture as in Mario 64 as well

[@MishKoz]

@@tuskoub That image is literally on the right side of the iceberg image but it's not in there in text form. Weird. I was also surprised that the Arwing wasn't there.

[@BlackIris95]

The Aria creepypasta feels like it was written in the early 2010s. I was able to suspend my disbelief until the whole heart attack thing.

[@26dollar]

THEY PUT HIS SOUL IN THE GAME

[@churupinha3510]

HE POSSESS THE CARTIDGE ITS EVIL NOW

[@amazemeplz]

HYPER-REALISTIC BLOOD AND WHEN I WOKE UP I FOUND TWO METALLIC TRIANGLES COVERED IN BLOOD. THE CURSED TRIFORCE!!! Should have never bought that copy of OoT from that garage sale...

[@churupinha3510]

@@amazemeplz Why didn't I obey the "DO NOT PLAY" message written in blood on the cartridge's label?

[@ricardobarsch4117]

@@churupinha3510 if I bought the fucking game I'm going to play it ffs

[@DampWetstew]

The Malon is an alcoholic one makes no sense. Even with the correct attribution. Unless there are bottles in her room or something. Cremia wanted to get Romani drunk to make sure she sleeps through the impending apocalypse. Like if the world ends it was an act of mercy, if not Romani got to have her first drink and would be happy to be treated as an adult and an equal to Romani. (Especially since she did save the farm after all with Link)

[@LonelySpaceDetective]

I kinda wonder if the iceberg author was operating on the assumption that the Termina counterparts suggested hidden aspects of the original Hyruleans. Even then though, it's a big leap to go from "caring sister gives her little sis a drink as an act of mercy" to "Malon is an alcoholic", which makes me wonder if the author misinterpreted the scene like you said.

[@lightbrand_]

@Ah vamo nessa - yeah but I don’t think you understood, the author mixed up the two games, it’s not bringing attention to it, it’s just a mistake

[@sirquixano5985]

I thought Talon was the one who people thought was alcoholic. Strange.

[@genesisdenesis]

@@sirquixano5985 me too that's why i'm confused

[@papersonic9941]

What's silly though is that Chateu Romani has a completely different effect on Link than Lon Lon Milk does. So even if we agreed thay Chateu Romani=Alcohol, it's unlikely Lon Lon Milk also does.

[@Fomortiis100]

>Wario Apparition SOUL >Aria Apparition SOULLESS

[@falendemo546]

Tony Jabroni --- More like: >Wario Apparition FAKE BUT CAN EXIST (due to lack of satanic shit like "tHe deV sI DeeDD!!1!!" or "M A S S C H I L D R E N G E N O C I D E") >Aria Apparition LAVENDER TOWN SYNDROME ALL OVER AGAIN

[@kirbyofthestarsfan]

Flirting vs Harassment

[@curiositykilledthecat5118]

so is every iceberg going to have a lame ass apparition pasta attached to it going forward?

[@MegaDeathRay10]

Yes :(

[@pokiyapa]

and also personalized copies

[@northropi2027]

Bad Rats Apparition when

[@rolandverde8771]

Every copy of zelda is personalized

[@oofadoofa313]

It's almost as if all of these low effort iceberg images are created by roleplaying wannabe creepypasta authors...

[@andrezits9723]

This iceberg is trying so hard to be like the Mario 64 one and is failing so badly. The creators made a whole new creepypasta just to make it more interesting and so many things are in the wrong level (the fetuses in the lab should've been lower and the running man in Mario Sunshine should've been way higher, for example). It honestly feels like the guys who made this iceberg just scrolled through the OoT page on the Cutting Room Floor and put everything they found interesting in it, without even researching what the info was referring to and how popular these mysteries were.

[@imhaddanitattaxx4172]

Yeah, I wish stuff wasn't made up for this one, although I can totally buy into personalization, not the disk version though. I remember as a kid just seeing things that I went out of my way to find again when I was older, and I found nothing. There is some weird juju surrounding this game sometimes

[@IsabelleChiming]

Yeah, the fact that this mainly uses tcrf content and has to make up a rumor for creepy factor is disappointing. Especially considering ocarina of time has that same mystery factor mario 64 does, imo. I think the image could have been a lot better

[@lemmingscanfly5]

@@IsabelleChiming It's hardly possible to make gold on purpose. I remember seeing iceberg images like that back on 4chan a couple years ago, and the Mario 64 one just gained traction for them this year, mainly just due to good timing with 90s 2000s internet kids having nostalgia for schoolyard rumors and creepypastas, which are basically impossible in the same form these days unless mad obscure, that being combined with semi-convincing imagery. But it's all the same subject, it'll get boring fast.

[@IsabelleChiming]

@@lemmingscanfly5 I agree, although I didn't know the icebergs originated on 4chan years ago (it doesnt surprise me tho)

[@thekrakenexperiment280]

I agree about the wrong levels. I knew about the running man in Mario Sunshine and I never even played OoT before.

[@SendixBunny]

Some stuff here... Ocarina of time was originally planned to be solely an N64DD game. The URA Zelda cart was a last ditch effort to get the N64DD functionality into the game, and then it just devolved into a level pack. The N64DD actually was planned to personalize every copy. No joke. Miyamoto said "the initial goal for this game was to make full use of the 64DD, utilizing its hardware to create a persistent world with lasting effects such as trees remaining cut once the player had chopped them down, or Link leaving permanent footprints behind him wherever he walked." The magnetic disks enabled saving and rewriting capabilities that could "personalize" each play through of the game. The game ended up having to be completely redone from scratch then they fully gave up on the N64DD ever coming out in America. Islamic symbols don't mean "the enemy", they represent the Gerudo. The missing Castle Towns folk refers to the people who are in Castle Town when Link is a child, but aren't in Kakariko Village when Link is an adult. Rauru's Temple wouldn't have been the Wind Temple, it would have been the Light Temple. Three temples were cut, Light, Wind, and Ice. Most of the cut wind temple assets are used in the Forest room of Ganon's castle. Also Yuriofwind doesn't have Zelda 64. Everyone knows it's locked away deep in Nintendo's vault, somewhere in Miyamoto's closet, next to an Italian plumber who thinks he's Mario. :)

[@kaancanszoglu6367]

Underrated comment

[@45Camster]

There’s a mini ice temple.

[@SendixBunny]

@@45Camster The Ice Cave is the remnants of the original Ice Temple, yes.

[@jareddembrun783]

The wind temple comes back in Wind Waker.

[@FennecWitch]

Something that I feel like would work on this iceberg would be the "Overture of Sages". This was possibly the biggest ever hoax in the Zelda community, wherein February 1999, someone calling themselves "Ariana Almandoz" claimed to have discovered how to obtain the Triforce in Ocarina of Time. While there were a lot of people who claimed to have found the Triforce, especially at this time, Ariana was the first to provide screenshots, showing fake screenshots of not only the Triforce, but Link learning a song called the "Overture of Sages" from Kaepora Gaebora and Link entering the "Light Temple". These images were largely believed to be true at the time but were revealed to be a hoax in March 1999, since there were some inconsistencies in the pictures. Still, I feel like it is something that deserved to be on the iceberg due to at least being a big part of the community's history, even if it's been mostly forgotten about.

[@Used__Napkin]

Not a big fan of this Iceberg, there were a lot of things that were either repetitive, based on nothing, or pretty obvious. It’s a shame because OoT has a lot of good material to work with. The whole Aria apparition is really dumb and is an obvious way to coattail on the mystery of the Mario 64 Iceberg. Overall it feel like it was made by someone with little knowledge on OoT who wanted to piggyback on the success of the Mario 64 iceberg. However, it makes me want to think up an iceberg for a game or franchise I’m passionate about like the Mother or Megaman series.

[@kommissarjupiter7667]

A mother/earthbound Iceberg could be really extensive

[@valletas]

Honestely the only good one is the mario 64 one All of them fail to live up to it

[@jazz8000]

@@valletas Goldeneye/Perfect Dark one is good

[@byel2844]

sunflowers zelda iceberg was pretty good

[@valletas]

@@bN_isheeere yea now things got betted but stuff was pretty bad at the time There is also ths internet iceberg that became so popular 10 years ago that people still think the internet has layers

[@RandomPerson964]

I really hate how most icebergs are putting an "Apparition" or "Game is personalized" because it's on the Mario 64 Iceberg. Like you said, Ocarina of Time has enough mysteries to be interesting on its own, but if you want some funny or creepy joke entries, make up your own ideas, people. I agree with others that you sound too "professional". Like you're giving a speech for some stupid school project that no one wants to do. When you're recording, try acting like you're talking to a friend. Write like that, too. Read everything you write aloud, preferably to a person, so you can make sure your words sound natural. It didn't go anywhere, but I experimented with writing and recording, and I found these things to be helpful.

[@nintendofan707]

Yeah, its stupid creepypasta BS. Its lazy.

[@richievedra1950]

What does the every copy of m64 even mean

[@NicoLetterio]

@@richievedra1950 that every copy of the game is different and adapts to the player or some shit like that.

[@azrieldawson7377]

There is hyper realistic blood in my personalized copy of a video game I got from an old man in a garage sale which is haunted by the soul of some kid who tragically died or something like that, also my friend told me that I like...shouldn’t play it? I dunno guys, sounds pretty legit. And no you can’t see proof because I destroyed my cartridge, my PC short circuited, you’ll be cursed too if you see proof, my house burned down, and I died. Sorry and thanks for understanding.

[@Antonio-is2cn]

Dude just let people have fun with their icebergs

[@Neptunequeen42]

I can tell you’re trying a little harder to sound “professional”, but I actually preferred the conversational tone of the mario iceberg video a lot more. A drier, more scripted type of video isn’t really what most people like your channel for. Not to sound too nitpicky, I’d just hate for you to feel like you have to change your tone because of all the new attention you’ve gotten lately. Edit: and as a matter of fact, you don’t even really go into the details of what each item is referring to and what it really means, just sort of a vague summary of what people are referencing. seriously, give yourself more time to just talk about what you personally think about the topic.

[@kronosdorma]

I agree

[@aBlackMage]

Big agree, the casual tone was a big part of what made me like the previous one so much.

[@soociesoocie]

i also agree because everybody else said they agreed

[@trappedintime]

I think he makes it work either way Honestly.

[@MishKoz]

I can definitely see where you're coming from. I think it's a combination of wanting to seem more professional, and just not knowing nearly as much about Ocarina of Time compared to Mario 64. I will be the first to admit that this video isn't perfect. I am very much a "screw it, the video is _good enough_ " type of guy as opposed to being a perfectionist. Probably not something I should be openly admitting lol. I think a lot of the laziness and cut corners in it are just a result of me wanting to get it done more than anything. I am sorry if this vid was underwhelming, but thank you for the feedback.

[@maskofthedragon]

Should have used a heart for the meter this episode

[@MishKoz]

I honestly kind of wanted to, but I was eager to use the updated health wheel from the 3D All Stars port.

[@sonnyzoinks]

Dudes on game forums: what if Nintendo game had a super spooky secret ghost Twelve year olds on a amazon fire tablet: *THIS IS FACT.*

[@roundabout468]

I don't think putting something on an iceberg necessarily means you believe it, it's just a "did you know some people think this?".

[@esp371]

i'm sorry but this panic 64 dude just has the worst delivery ever it's so wooden and hardly makes the topic feel interesting i know i had a top comment on the mario 64 video that seemed pretty negative but it was a joke i like these videos and i think you can make the next one better by keeping the narration to yourself you're actually very good at it imo and keeping it to a single narrator i think would keep the viewer more invested throughout

[@LionmaneElsie08]

He sounds like he doesn’t want to be here tbh 😅 I also couldn’t understand him often as he didn’t speak clearly

[@ajr01-x6e]

By gathering all four N Coins, Link obtains the N Pass. The N Pass is the only way Link can say a special spell that would permanently seal Ganon outside of time. The only drawback being the sheer power of that spell could also banish Link as well. This means time would lose its greatest villain, but also its greatest hero...

[@joekaz5198]

🤣🤣🤣

[@theguywhoasked770]

"the child shown in this footage would later be permanently admitted to a psychiatric ward, after prolonged distress due to not getting that gosh dang soda"

[@genesisdenesis]

all he wanted was a pepsi

[@seavord]

Whoever is talking with you needs to speak clearly, sounded like he didn't wanna read and was just saying it as fast as he could sounded slurred

[@suedonnym]

honestly I have no clue how people can make their lines sound that bad

[@lemmingtonofficial]

Where is your pfp from? It looks awesome!

[@Ryan-Petre]

The funny thing is I looked at his earlier vids, his performance here was actually a big improvement lmao.

[@crisismoon880]

He’s gonna need to improve more

[@Owlero]

The co-host sounds like a 14 year old who didn't prepare for his history presentation.

[@_sto2972]

True

[@aqualitymagentachickenmask3298]

It sounds like he’s projecting his words from his soft palate or something. Very congested.

[@Jamesharveycomics]

Came here to make this exact comment. 9:46 contains his most trenchant insight of the video

[@kevindube7096]

Could be an anxious guy, with little to no public speaking experience, looking at the possibility of speaking on a video that would be seen by hundreds of thousands of people? 🤷🏽‍♂️ I’m gonna assume that before trying to be funny insulting him, but if it’s not the case then..... fuuuuucccckkkk that guy!!!!!!!!!!

[@skypiea115]

Yeah, kind of took me out of the feel of the video. Public speaking my friend!

[@marnea1]

You got to love just how polarized the intro to this and the Mario 64 iceberg are. "Like I don't need to explain what an iceberg imagine is" "Like holy shit this went viral, and what I took as common knowledge is actually super niche and now I have literally millions of people asking me to explain what an iceberg image is." In any event, good stuff man. Been looking forward to this.

[@melomacky4888]

The atmosphere of the video is something that I've always loved about your iceberg videos. The music choice really helps in setting an eerier tone for the lower layers, but in a way that doesn't seem forced or in your face about it.

[@GamingEelektross]

I'm honestly glad you mentioned the Aria thing being made up for an easy "bottom of the iceberg" thing. It really felt like an old cliche creepypasta that was rushed.

[@jerrytc2978]

gonna be honest at the start aria did make me KINDA interested in at least the oddity of it, swapping cartridges and what not then we got onto "its a dead game designers soul" and it just lost me

[@TheOtherOTHERERER]

The upside down triforce is the iconography for lorule, meaning that there could be connection between oot and lttp/lbw. Could also mean that termina and lorule are also somehow connected, thats probably why the creator placed it on the iceberg.

[@LonelySpaceDetective]

Termina is debatable considering some of the theories surrounding it (though canon is clear on them having no relation), but I assumed the upside-down Triforce in OoT was a bit of early installment weirdness; lore wasn't exactly totally nailed down at this point (arguable to say that lore has *ever* been nailed down in this series, but you know what I mean), and unless I'm misremembering the video the upside-down Triforce didn't make it into final OoT.

[@user-ov5nv1ff1b]

definitely wasn’t intentional for the developers at the time given it was even put in the final game but it is fun looking back now and speculating about lorules connection to the hyrule we see in OoT

[@hsuhru2051]

Yo I got a writer credit, nice! Anyways, I'm glad I was able to help you out with your research. Great video btw

[@KingKalashnikov]

morshu keeps a shotgun under the counter

[@jakezepeda1267]

More believable than Aria coming to spoop on Link

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Debt ain't nothing but a bad deal anyway

[@thedoublessymbol]

All hail the king

[@54667991]

The Faces in the flowers is the most Not-a-thing thing I've seen today.

[@aeroburger]

yeah mirrored textures always have the illusion of what looks like a face. I guess the writer of the iceberg didn't understand how textures worked

[@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288]

@@thisisfyne It' more the image. Go watch his first one as it's way better and has a better tone and style.

[@thekrakenexperiment280]

I enjoyed the "personalized Mario 64" and "Wario Apparition" stuff in the Mario 64 iceberg, but I don't want other icebergs to do it just because the Mario 64 one was popular. If you're going to make up theories, I hope they will be more creative. I mean, "a designer died while making this" is like the most common creepypasta trope. I still really enjoyed the video though.

[@doodledungit]

He didn’t even create this iceberg

[@thekrakenexperiment280]

@@doodledungit I know. I was just saying this in terms of icebergs in general.

[@MigueUgartechea]

The other dude really sounds like he is falling asleep

[@RotroBreakteve]

Love your vids!! Your deadpan reading of the Aria bullshit with Mario rapping in the background killed me lol. I hope you keep injecting your humour into future stuff.

[@elfiebranford9330]

Here we go again. For real though, any iceberg theory that followed the Super Mario 64 one feels too forced and like its trying to hard. Regardless, so far the video is explaining wacky stuff so I can't complain. Although I think you should've replaced the Mario health with something like heart pieces.

[@MotobugGaming]

Mario 64: The Wario Apparition Ocarina of Time: The Aria Apparition Mario Kart 64: The Marty Apparition

[@crenando288]

I'm kind of disappointed you didn't mention the yuriofwind reference, that would have been hilarious

[@Symphony_Gex]

What is that referring to anyway

[@beastmonsterthing3]

@@Symphony_Gex that's a youtuber, yuriofwind. he did some of the first videos on ura zelda / oot 2 cancelled stuff years ago

[@IsabelleChiming]

This slapped. I kinda felt like there was less mystery and creepiness to this one but maybe that has more to do with the iceberg than with this video

[@i.l.l.l.l.]

The original Fire Temple music with the chanting is incredibly creepy to me, creepier than the second version by far. Cultural sensitivity aside, I'm kinda glad they swapped it out lol Also, great video!

[@LonelySpaceDetective]

I kinda feel like the revised music fits the vibe of the dungeon better, too.

[@ahmedar1217]

@@LonelySpaceDetective no

[@cutehoneym2477]

whoever the second person is talking, he takes away from the entire video. His voice is aggravating.

[@LucidMakesVideos]

This is what I thought you'd do next, i love seeing your takes on these theories

[@snosibsnob3930]

Mish you have birthed an entire sub genre of this type of video. Thank you.

[@jayr.9884]

yeesh the delivery from the cohost is rough. he sounds like he's reading his lines at gunpoint

[@CH3R.N0BY1]

i think the title screen purgatory refers to link and epona on the actual title screen. Link has a certain set inventory that doesn't change and he just keeps repeating the same movements with epona

[@troloinkto]

isn't there a video of someone playing with that link?

[@tacothursdays6546]

I think it'd be hilarious to have a little more fun with the more memey/creepypasta fake entries towards the bottom of the iceberg. With all due respect I admire your thorough fact checking for every other entry but the final section of the iceberg is always the driest section. That being said great video as always you earned a sub :)

[@kronosdorma]

I’d rather only hear you, not whoever else talked. And we liked hearing you talk along with it!

[@aidanb4477]

I mean I didn't want to say it but

[@sherkonia644]

dude is speaking to fast/mumbling and fumbling as well.

[@EraVulgaris-]

There's no passion or urgency in his voice so to be completely honest he shouldn't have been part of the video. Hopefully he's okay and it's not due to depression or anxiety.

[@qExAi5]

I love the effor that they put onto this, however... I must agree. I prefer the original guy. I didn't want to sound mean or unrespectful, however, it's how I feel it should be.

[@MugiwarasNakama]

about the poe collector. The dialogue from the gaurd hints at his eventual fate as the poe collector and there is also a Sheikah statue that says the gaurd has a strange infatuation with ghosts.

[@michaelgaber3600]

I think the Aria AI thing is complete creepypasta. That's the first time I've heard about the Ganon only truly dying in V1.0 due to blood color, and though I understand the theory I think it's complete garbage. Lastly, Panic64 (imo) needs to work on his speaking. He sounded like a highschool student giving a speech. Very monotone, did not stop and pause when needed, and did not articulate words well

[@aidendamep5118]

YYEEEEEEESSSSSSS I’ve been waiting for this, your SM64 iceberg was so good I loved it. Ocarina of Time is one of my favorite games that I you for making a video on it, also when you started playing the hirule field theme it was super loud and scared me lol

[@IamCanadian3333]

With regards to the Poe Collector = Jar House Guard, further evidence: During the day, he complains how boring the world is and wishes there were more disorder in the world, and in the future, the Poe Collectors praises the chaos in the world and hopes it gets even more chaotic. The biggest evidence that supports this theory though is that during the night, the guard says that studying ghosts is a hobby of his and says that one day it could come in handy, and of course, seven years later, the Poe Collector is a ghost expert that rewards you for giving him Poe Souls (in the form of rupees and one of the 4 obtainable bottles after you give him 10 Big Poe Souls).

[@Icemaire]

Happy you kinda skipped the made up one just for the iceberg. The other ones draw their strength partially from being old/well known. Then again, new theories are always welcome and should be encouraged, but the Aria apparition just seems too forced. Good video, love to see more!

[@ScrawnyTreeDemon]

Yeah, agreed. I'm all for creepypastas, but forcing Mario 64 into it-- especially Wet-Dry World --made me lose any suspension of disbelief.

[@thisisasupersayin376]

Honestly, Aria Apparition seemed like a good idea up until the Presence In The Forbidden Build part. That was when it really just turned into a ripoff of the Mario 64 iceberg.

[@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos]

@@ScrawnyTreeDemon I'm all for GOOD creepypasta, and I know that's mostly subjective, but does anyone really think this one has any value?

[@ScrawnyTreeDemon]

@@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos Which one? The SM64 one, or the Aria one? If we're going with the former, then it's because SM64 _does_ have an unnerving, dreamy quality about-- Especially Wet-Dry World, which just has this... empty, confused, almost beta-test feel to it. Acknowledging that resonates with alot of people, especially as it does have the reputation of being a childhood game for so many (myself included!). It's also a sort of homage to the creepypastas of old, combined with the recent surge of interest in beta content. That being said... there were honestly points where that shit got tired, too. Even worse, it ended up drowning out actual beta-content in favour of clickbaity horror shit, which is just... beyond frustrating. As for Aria? Lmao, who knows. But yeah, I feel you.

[@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos]

@@ScrawnyTreeDemon oh no I was referring to aria lol, sorry I wasn't clear

[@lennoxschmidt4020]

I think your mario 64 iceberg is the best on KZbin, so I'm glad you're diving into other game's icebergs! Can't wait to see this!

[@Apollo9898LP]

Ok so the hidden wind temple item bugs me, because you way oversimplified that part. Not that it matters or anyone cares, but I just wanna elaborate on it. 1) Yes, the presence of the Light Medallion has made people think that there is an extra temple, a light temple, that was cut. This is also supported by the fact there are a lot of light-based puzzles in the Spirit Temple, and so some people think these were originally developed for the Light Temple and were repurposed when the Light Temple was cut. However, 2) The WIND Temple is a theory that originally the Forest and Water temples were different. This comes from the fact that, in Ganon's Tower, the room corresponding to the Forest Temple utilizes wind-based puzzles, and the room corresponding to the Water Temple utilizes ice-based puzzles. This, coupled with the fact that Ganon Tower was developed fairly early in the game's development, has led some fans to believe that originally those two temples were the Wind Temple and the Ice Temple, and that the Ice Temple's assets were repurposed into the Ice Cavern, and the Wind Temple was entirely cut except for the Ganon's Tower section. This is also supported by the fact that the Forest Medallion seems to have a symbol like a fan on it, and the Water Medallion has a symbol like a snowflake on it.

[@Art42209]

I think that Aria is the mother of Oot Link, because of the cinematic after the deku tree sprout, where she will give baby Link to the forest. However, this cutscene was never made or changed to the only fire one, to give more dramatic weight to the fact they were in war times. i don't know if is good or not, because it only holds for the fact that Aria's model wear green clothes, but hey, better than Aria's apparition.

[@TectonicImprov]

"The Aria Apprarition" section, intentional or not, reminded me of the Princess creepypasta. In fact earlier in the video when you were talking about Aria I was wondering if the Princess was gonna get a nod.

[@mutantnut]

Holy shit, same.

[@AlphaDog26]

What’s the princess creepypasta?

[@CoolGamer-qz5zp]

Yeah what's the Princess creepypasta?

[@hupla2185]

I have something to confess, the dead soul inside Aria is actually the soul of my uncle who worked at Nintendo.

[@dill8022]

This is great! You seriously deserve way more attention for your videos like these.

[@Abaddon_Narukami]

When the world need him the most he came back.

[@mattemactics1280]

"Put the soul of a person in an AI" I written a few AIs. I have yet to make a fucking blood sacrafise for one

[@brig.badger2896]

9:39 nice Tails gets Trolled reference, could you do a Majora's mask iceberg?

[@liliester4080]

It's so funny that people actually make "creepypastas" about AI's placed in a nintendo 64 cartridge, when humanity is around 600 years away from having actual AI's.

[@gabrielryan-leon832]

The CEO of iceberg theories is back!

[@elderjose9662]

the part about Marlon being an alcoholic I think I understand, as all the manora's mask characters are mirrored versions of another dimension of their counterparts in hyrule, Cremia and Romani having this involvement with alcoholic beverages, may mirror that their version in hyrule Malon, there are also these involvement with alcohol manifested by Romani's desire for alcoholic beverages. (anyway I doubt anyone read this a year after the video was released lol!)

[@butwhy7953]

The Aria creepy pasta stared off good but then it went “random bullshit go”

[@imaginaryboy2000]

It makes me happy to no end that you put in a clip of trying and failing to go down a hole in the intro.

[@MishKoz]

When putting it in, I was like "dang I want to do a fade to black transition after I'm done talking about some sort of secret" but I didn't have a lot of footage recorded, so that was the best option lol

[@iv624]

The king has returned back to his throne

[@WilfredCthulu]

So happy to finally see this. I actually fully completed this game again a few weeks ago, and I feel you do these icebergs in some of the best ways. Btw upsidedown triforce = Lorule I also agree with the change in tone but I'd really like to see you retry this with a better pace and iceberg chart. Ocarina of Time has amazing potentional.

[@KorytheMaril]

The Aria apparition disappoints me. I like the idea of this scrapped NPC being a spooky occurrence, but the second the words, "Dead Nintendo employee" came up, my interest immediately died. It'd be nice to see the idea of a ghost woman used for a creepy new side quest, though, perhaps hidden in the future Hyrule Castle town.

[@mintysquinty2989]

3:30 if you shoot the window on the opposite side a guard peeks his head in the window and tells you to stop making trouble, then he throws a bomb at you.

[@JingIeFett]

Give me a break, the fetuses are obviously small squids. You can even see the low res suction cups on the tentacles...

[@penta_novae]

This is your bread and butter, man, you gotta keep up these iceberg explanations, they're great.

[@Juiceplooce]

8:56 FREEEEEMAAAAANNNNNNN

[@-._Radixerus_.-]

you are man... he is fetus

[@ArachnidArachnid]

demon baby fetus

[@Sunflower41XD]

Thanks for returning with a solid video, King.

[@bloodrunsclear]

It’s weird that some of these icebergs feel creepy, but this one felt very upbeat

[@LagBlowz]

I honest to god could listen to mish explain just about anything related to games. Keep up the good work man!

[@elnicko4189]

Hmm... A pretty good video, maybe a bit too professional along with the unfortunate circumstance of people throwing in an apparition or spooky stuff, but overall, very entertaining. Perhaps if you were to do another iceberg a sonic or donkey Kong one would be good. Great channel.

[@ryospark]

This was a fun video. I believe I read somewhere years ago that the "hidden Wind Temple" was recycled into the Forest Temple. The design of the Forest Medallion looks closer to wind than it does to leaves, and it explains why the fans are in the Forest section of Ganon's Castle. As well, the Water Temple was originally meant to be the Ice Temple, as the design on the medallion looks like a snowflake, and the puzzles in Ganon's Castle are ice based.

[@killer1gamer1]

how does one just die from a heart attack in work and the others say NOTHING about it and just casually put his soul in the game he was working on

[@harleyokeefe5193]

Has anyone else randomly gotten hooked on these iceberg explained vids

[@patriciolemus9271]

Nintendo: Ah, this model looks kinda bad let’s just leave her on the code Conspiracy theorists: 21:20

[@northernjohn5089]

I like that mish koz is able to bring us stuff that is both outside the iceberg videos an other game icebergs, helps to vary his content!

[@komi___]

If you do the pokémon iceberg, use this version: i.imgur.com/LCqb4TF.png It's the most updated version.

[@daisythorn217]

The upside down triforce can be a refrence to the Shadow World or Lorule since their symbol of the triforce is upside down.

[@simodelfario4739]

This feels like a presentation with the smart kid and the cool kid. Love it

[@williamsbirne]

8:52 actually look like jellyfish. But only their first vertical half are rendered.

[@holly1528]

Wow that Aria apparition pasta was hard to listen to

[@yovany87]

4:28 that is a shark behind bars, meaning their dislike for people to use gameshark devices and such, it also looks pretty much like the shark in the gameshark logo

[@the_bane_of_all_anti_furry]

geezes the part of aria lore sended shive to my whole skeleton

[@crabohato4954]

9:40 The game LoZ: A Link Between Worlds has 2 worlds where you travel to, Hyrule and Lorule. They are both counterparts to each other. The Trifirce that belongs to Lorule is upside down.

[@lydia8226]

That guy who made the Aria apparition sure loves using the word convoluted wrong

[@pantalonesdemuerto7960]

One thing that I think was off the mark just a little: I don't think the "Hidden wind temple" one is about the rumored mission Rauru temple, but rather that the Forest Temple replaced an earlier wind temple concept. The medallion for the forest temple looks a bit like a whirlwind, and the forest segment in Ganon's tower is largely a puzzle around letting fans blow you around in the right sequence.

[@bodoms_demon4159]

Some of y'all need to work on annunciating words. I can't get through the rest of this.

[@omgnoi]

Yeah it’s pretty unwatchable for me

[@Altarior]

I think the flower thing is definitely just the human brain looking for recognizable patterns, like when people find Jesus on a nugget or something

[@thatguyknownaswill8180]

Hey panic coek 64 you know you can’t have 1/2 an “A” press right?

[@cody3504]

Someone probably already said this but the theory goes that the gaurd in the building with all the pots becomes the Poe collector. When you talk to him he says “I wish there were ghosts or something” Then in the same place 7 years later there’s a Poe collector there. The gaurd became the Poe collector. Also I never noticed the upside down Triforce it makes sense why there were theories about the middle piece of the triforce being a thing Mirinda was like a got milk commercial similar to Mario’s except it’s about a soda called Mirinda.

[@lamstof01]

The second narrator sounds dead inside

[@BexTheBoo388]

The very baseline of the Aria apparition is an interesting idea but then it droned on. A test NPC lost in the code who can only be found bringing two games together? Interesting. Some people might even believe it. The rest? No way

[@TheWhiteTrashPanda]

How is dead dampe even on this list? Discovering him and getting the hookshot is literally a requirement to progress through the game...

[@MishKoz]

I honestly had no idea, and I didn't really know what to say when writing that part. In retrospect, it might be because Dampé turns into a normal ghost instead of a Poe after he dies.

[@joser.4494]

Think they could've added more of the NPC interactions. Most of them are optional, but some are still kinda interesting. One that sticks out is the master craftman's son, I'll just call him the forest guy from here on. In Kakariko when you're child link, if you talk to the master craftsman he'll give the usual boomer spiel about how young men nowadays are too lazy, like his workers. He also mentions how his son hasn't even got a job. Also in Kakariko another NPC will let you in on a little secret, the master craftman has a son and he lays under the tree at night. At night, when you see him, he looks nothing like his dad. He's thin and pale, kinda odd looking. When you talk to him he just says everyone is disgusting, even his own parents. Pretty depressed dude I guess. 7 years later as adult link you see him in the lost woods. He seems to be sleeping and he doesn't respond when you go near him. However, through the trading side quest you can receive a blue cucco called Cojiro from the cucco lady. She says it used to be her brother's cucco and that it's stopped crowing since he left. She also mentions her brother must be very lonely. If you use Cojiro in front of the forest guy he'll wake up and recognize Cojiro, confirming he's the cucco lady's brother. Even though he's usually depressed and distrustful, he now trusts you're a nice guy cuz you were able to tame his cucco, something only he could do. He gives you an odd mushroom and tells you to deliver it to the potion lady. When you do, she recognizes who it's from and calls him a bum for being in the forest, but still turns it into a potion to give to him. When you return, he's nowhere to be seen. Instead there's a kokiri girl where he was. She implies he got lost and has become a stalfos. She kinda teases Link asking if he'll become one too, so she could be joking. However we don't see the forest guy the rest of the game, even in the credits where most of the characters you've seen throughout the game are celebrating Ganon's defeat. Pretty sad story for the guy. This is just an interpretation, maybe not intended by the developers, but I think given his odd look he probably took a liking to Cojiro, the odd cucco. He also could've been sickly, explaining his pale skin. He was in the lost woods, presumably scavenging for mushrooms to turn to a potion after all. I remember feeling kinda sad for him when the kokiri girl said he's probably a stalfos now, just some lonely guy who's best friend was a chicken.

[@CZPC]

Good video and interesting but your audio mixing could be better. Sometimes sound effects are twice as loud as your voice with music being almost the same volume as the voice clips.

[@peoplebro_1294]

Ok I think the closest thing we can get to "[blank game copy] is personalized are procedurely generated worlds within games like Minecraft, no man's sky etc. Go further with this idea I guess could be the way certain things spawn outside of scripted events like certain cars in GTA games or what loot you find in other games being so random I guess you could think of it as personalized to that player.