THE ODD COUPLE - DEBATE: Chuck Daly Should've Refused to Coach Dream Team Due to Isiah Thomas Snub?

[@j5daniel182]

Not having Jordan on the team would have damaged the Dream Team brand though. Jordan was already considered the best player in the world by that time.

[@mwcapri9713]

And the face of the NBA !

[@leonardobraynen1524]

Its like telling Achilles stay home during the Trojan War. He was the GREATEST WARRIOR in the world then

[@포기하지마-c4u]

then no one would call it the DREAM TEAM

[@troycallan4776]

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[@camdynvalentin9051]

@Troy Callan definitely, been using instaflixxer for since december myself =)

[@dcbolden]

Christian L should never been on the dream team

[@ojoj5194]

blam the one who pick him bro.

[@paulthomas9911]

Christian Laetner, clyde drexler and karl malone should never have made the team. a joke. the difference is Christian Laetner has said as much. Even he was surprised he was on it. Karl Malone was the most overrated big man in the history of the game.

[@xaviervega468]

@@paulthomas9911 Is that a joke? Karl Malone was easily the top power forward of the era. Clyde Drexler was beast in his prime, 2nd shooting guard only to Jordan. I want some of the stuff you're smoking.

[@lukastanner6504]

@@xaviervega468 KM. all time great easily.

[@christiansoldier77]

@@paulthomas9911 They had to pick a college player and Laettner was the most popular player in college at this time. Drexler and Malone were the second best at their positions at the time so if they couldnt make the team then who could?

[@frankwhite8178]

If Greg Popovich was the coach of that team and they told him David Robinson or Tim Duncan couldn't be on the team, he would've walked outside and pop the trunk on them. Chuck Daly will forever be a chump!

[@j5daniel182]

Bird could barely get on the floor by this time but he was on the team. If you saw the dream team docu.

[@mobetta2092]

@AnEn Isiah was closer to being the best at his position than Bird, Laetner, and Mullin during the time you mentioned...and he definitely was better than Stockton

[@mobetta2092]

@Idiot Whisperer if your high mileage comment wasn't so old, it wouldn't be tired.

[@sharifs649]

💯💯

[@gordon2945]

Yea but david robinson and tim duncan were not dirty players

[@StreetDzine]

Some people: "The Bulls only beat Isiah and the Pistons because they got old in 1991. Those same people: "In 1991, you can't tell me Isiah wasn't a top 5 player that deserved to be on the 1992 Dream Team"

[@jaybrick8973]

Magic and Bird was old an stockton was nursing a injury therefore isiah should have made the squad

[@StreetDzine]

There's literally a whole documentary covering the Dream Team that explains Bird and Magic from the players themselves. Without them the players wouldn't go.

[@bmla88]

Pippen had a migraine in game 7 in 1990; the Lakers were injured in 1989.

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

@@jaybrick8973 Magic was 31 genius

[@XYz-co1ob]

Piston lost theor enforcer that year Rick mahorn

[@quintonbell6836]

Realizing again that chuck was the coach only makes it even more interesting 🧐🤔👀

[@marcprada3812]

chuck daly went to wars with Isiah thomas for so many years ! They won champisonships with him. Isiah played injured for him during the lakers championship ! How can you leave your best player and coach the dream team . That was not cool at all ! And another thing why dont they just shorten the league from dec to june ! Play like 62 games instead of 82 .

[@abduljabbaar]

That whole thing stunk. 1. Chuck Daly is the architect of the Jordan rules. How is it, you hate the players but not the coach? 2. Up to that point, Scottie Pippen had never made an all NBA team. Why was his spot solidified? Or his opinion considered? 3. Why are they picking Daly and McCloskey to run the team, while saying the Pistons were bad for basketball? They PUT THE TEAM TOGETHER!! 4. David Falk, Michael Jordan's agent, said that no players voiced opposition to Isiah being on the team? How does he know? 5. Rod Thorn, the selection boss, said that it was good question, when asked why Isiah was left off the team - implying, he doesn't know and supposedly selected the players. 6. These guys all played with Isiah in all-star games and charity basketball games. I personally saw Isiah throwing lobs to Michael Jordan during Magic's charity all-star game. They had no problems with him during those times? Why the Dream Team? It was grimy to keep Isiah off the team and they know it. That's why nobody wants to cop to it.

[@rickyv7757]

Good points. Isiah Thomas may have been a prick but definitely deserved to be on the team. Shows you how even NBA greats can be petty assholes.

[@y2shuproblem]

Also to both men's credit, Chuck and Jordan got along extremely well. They played golf together.

[@VitorRedes]

They said on The Last Dance that the guy who created the Jordan Rule was Isaiah, not Daily.

[@twhite3850]

I believe this was also anti-Pistons. Dumars never bothered anyone and could have been a much less-controversial pick. Nevertheless, the fans and the world would much rather see Isiah on that team. That was real foul!

[@davidboyd9742]

@@rickyv7757 Isiah Thomas may have been a prick? Did you actually watch the last dance??? Michael Jordan told the world that he himself is probably the biggest prick in basketball ball history. Weren't you listening? Michael doesn't like to lose that's the real issue here that everybody glosses over. Isiah beat Jordan 37 times while Jordan only beat him 15. Those numbers have been eating away at MJ like a cancer. And it's turned him into the leader of the mean girls group on the Olympics team. Other members were Magic, Scottie, Karl Malone, & Charles Barkley who all claimed to speak for the team.

[@carlogambino8752]

This quote comes from Jan Hubbard of Sheridan Hoops: "The late Chuck Daly was the Pistons coach and head coach of the 1992 Olympic team. He did not have a vote on the selection committee, but one influential member of the committee told me, “If Chuck had come in and demanded Isiah to be on the team, he would have been on the team.” Daly did not do that."

[@Mr.Hall3850]

Lol Mike said it was him or Isaiah. Idgaf how much chuck was respected, at that time nobody had more pull than Jordan. Nobody

[@Pelissier1990]

Lawrence Wright if Isiah played then Magic, Jordan, Pippin wouldn’t of participated. 3 for one...easy choice not to have him. Not saying it was right but necessary.

[@rxtsec1]

I don't believe that and chuck was smart enough to realize that. Chuck would have been replaced

[@windtic]

Maybe Isiah should have listened to his coach when he told him not to walk off

[@Israel-nb7ip]

@@Mr.Hall3850 not necessarily. Remember, the team was selected in the late summer/early fall of 1991 so this was BEFORE Jordan became the ultimate iconic winner he became. The Lakers and Celtics were still the face of the league. That said, YES Jordan was extremely powerful especially since the NBA wanted to sell the game globally and Jordan was its most marketable star...but that doesn't mean that he ran everything. He respected Magic and he respected Bird so if both those guys were on board w/Isiah playing, then they could've pushed to get Isiah on that team. THOSE two having the problem w/Isiah was more of a factor than Jordan having an issue with him.

[@Israel-nb7ip]

Its funny because those comments the Bulls made about the Pistons not being deserving champs, etc also applied to Chuck Daly who was the coach that devised the Jordan Rules and the Pistons sytle of play. Not sure why Chuck didn't take offense to that, unless him and Jordan talked that out. Phil Jackson was known for playing mind games via the media. Either way, Isiah should've been on that team.

[@WillJM81280]

It’s called money. Also no coach on earth was going to turn down the opportunity to be a part of that team.

[@Israel-nb7ip]

@@WillJM81280 I don't know if the money was as big a factor as the prestige behind being the first head coach to coach a team of Olympic pro players. That cements your legend as a coach on top of what he already had done as coach of the Pistons. And who knows how hard he may've gone to bat for Isiah behind closed doors? But its unrealistic to think that he'd protest coaching that legendary team over Isiah not being selected. It's actually ridiculous when you think about it.

[@abdatruthteller5895]

True Chuck Daly did devised the Jordan Rules but Isaiah Thomas and Bill Laimbeer and the other players on the Pistons made it personal when they took fouling to a personal level by trying to cause them bodily harm with potential career ending fouls to MJ and Pippen sir. Yes the game was much physical back then but when it came to Jordan and the Bull's, the Pistons took things to a whole different level than when they played physical against the Celtics or the Lakers. Check the games out for yourself!!!! When a grown ass man jumps on another man's back when he is going up for a lay-up and slam he down on the hardwood floor that had very little give, that's way past a flagrant foul, thats down right assault.

[@Israel-nb7ip]

@@abdatruthteller5895 dude, I watched all of those games as they happened in real time. What it boils down to is that Daley had control over how that team played and what they actually did on the court. You can't separate the coach from what the players did under his watch. Everything you said about about the Pistons vs the Bulls can be said about any number of physical rivalries from the 80s/90s (Heat vs Knicks, Pacers vs Knicks, Celtics vs Pistons, Sixers vs Celtics etc). Look at what Laimbeer did to Larry Bird in the '87 conf finals when he literally twisted him into a pretzel on a hard foul and how Parish retaliated the next game where he almost knocked Laimbeer unconscious with a two piece cheap shot from behind. Its ridiculous to make this about the Bulls only. Daly was the general while Isiah and Laimbeer were sergeants. Just a fact.

[@yunggpacino]

Correction Isaiah Thomas after the Bulls were up 2-1 in the 88 eastern conference finals Isaiah after a loss and a dominant Jordan performance stayed up all night thinking about how to stop Jordan and he thought up the Jordan rules.

[@thomaspitts5161]

Why doesn't MJ or Pippen hold anything against Chuck Daly? He was the coach giving the orders to knock Jordan/Pippen to the ground.

[@windtic]

He wasn't the one who told his team to walk off in fact he warned them against it

[@samcaballero1203]

go bck and listen to Broussard. he made a great point!

[@dakingltroyproductofdade3579]

Thomas Pitts cuZ the players did it can’t kill the massager

[@stevenpringle1670]

Zeke was the director of that physical play.

[@Matt-cr4vv]

Because rough play wasn’t the primary issue. They could deal with the style of play. People forget that the style they had wasn’t exclusive to them and other teams had a similar strategy like the knicks and so on. The bulk of the issue was the disrespect of walking off the court and not losing respectfully when the bulls had done that for them. That’s exacerbated their issues with IT. He wasn’t solely a physical player but he was also a dick in other ways as well. When Daly was interviewed after the bulls won he gave full credit that was due and respected the foe. That’s the primary rationale. Similar to why they didn’t have issues with other players like Dumars who did show the respect. It’s one thing to play a physical game but show respect and class at the end but an entirely different one to do things how IT did and never showing respect. IT tried to recruit Chuck into the walk off and he very visibly had an issue with it and turned his back on IT. He didn’t participate in the things that truly made them upset - physical play was one thing but disrespect was another.

[@cyril6933]

Great discussion, I was wondering if this situation with Daly/Thomas has potentially created problem within the Pistons Locker Room and if it has potentially been the reason for Daly to leave the pistons in 92?

[@polofunk]

I'm with Chris, rob was just reaching for air, Jordan wasn't the only one who didn't want Isiah on the Team, but Chuck Daily still should've coached the dream team.

[@JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION]

That's why Chuck resigned. He lost the Team when he went on to coach the Dream Team.

[@Israel-nb7ip]

C'mon, man. Where's your proof of that? He had coached the Pistons for a decade and knew that their window had closed so he wasn't trying to coach a rebuild after being a title contender for 4-5 years and making 3 straight finals plus 5 staight eastern conference finals. They lost in '92 to the Knicks in the 1st round so it was clear that their run was over.

[@airassault11]

When Daly resigned, the Piston core players were old. Laimbeer retired in ‘93 and Thomas in ‘94. The GM kept Dumars and got rid of the rest through trades. The Bulls were younger and hungrier, as well as the Knicks.

[@drew5834]

ROB is 100% right

[@sugaball1]

TELL IT ROB

[@geebadd2391]

Zeke actions got him wut Dey got him

[@bekindunderstandhumannatur9874]

Daly looked out for himself despite Isiah getting him 2 championships and getting recognized. Daly was supposed to protest and vouch for his point guard. Daly went for the money and his big Ego.

[@jaredjones4804]

Why would he vouch for a lying scum bag and a degenerate?

[@TeamTuc]

@Bulls Vs The world The guy that left his wife for the typical leach on "becky" and arguably cost his dad his life due to his off the court actions...Yeah that guy!

[@LanceG007]

Bulls Vs The world it’s not speculation because many mob guys have alluded to it in many interviews

[@dakingltroyproductofdade3579]

Be kind Understand human nature good glad he got left off team Thomas was playing prison football not basketball 🏀 so he got wat he deserve

[@gatordontplaynoshit3332]

Regardless of people's resentments towards Isiah, he should've most definitely been on the Dream Team.

[@reginaldaustin3305]

They did just fine without him so yea lol

[@gatordontplaynoshit3332]

@@reginaldaustin3305 That's clearly not the point, but thanks for pointing out the obvious.

[@calm1047]

He should have but he needs to stop bitching

[@gatordontplaynoshit3332]

@@calm1047 It was a bitch move by Daly. But I agree, The past is the past, he needs to make peace with it, & let it go. No since in holding a 28 year old resentment lol

[@sensiblyhonest695]

Based on his skills yes...grown men reap what they sow....Karma can be a bitch...so was Isaiah.

[@senatetransportationservic4660]

Chuck should of taken a stand for his star player that he coached. Chris is WRONG with the statement "every man stands on his own feet."

[@timmyg831]

Senate Transportation Services NYC...Did you even hear Chris’s argument? Isaiah caused a lot of conflicts on his own. Chuck isn’t responsible for Isaiah’s foolish actions and words.

[@dontmindme4197]

No he's right cause IT had to lid with the reasons he wasn't on the dream team but Chuck still should have held his ground

[@travionjohnson3975]

I find it funny that journalists just ran with this whole story and didn’t tell the truth. Magic kept Isiah off the team not MJ magic said it and it’s in his book

[@tommyisrael6038]

Travion Johnson God forbid Jordan makes HIMSELF look bad. Yeah he did it.

[@maximostiberius2324]

Exactly!! Magic probably had the biggest part in that. MJ may have been negative but Magic wears that mantel. I didn't think Bitd had anything to do with it. I read he was indifferent to the whole thing.

[@travionjohnson3975]

AGZ MJ said he hated Isiah but then said he’s the second greatest pg behind Magic. People think all players are friends they not but they respect each other games

[@courylanders5154]

@Tracy Sharp Yep, the rivalry runs deep.MJ still has issues w/,Zeke and Laimbeer and vice versa.30 years later!

[@cynthianevels6106]

Jordan was caught on tape saying he would not play if Isaiah was included. He should fess up. Sad! Jordan opened up a can of worms taking about other's failings and not his own.

[@deandrepage1048]

Head coach Greg Popovich (San Antonio Spurs) would not have stayed with the Olympic team if Tim Duncan was banned from the Olympics. 😑😑😑 If the Detroit Pistons Bad Boys style of play was so bad, the head coach is responsible too.

[@rickyv7757]

Yea it's kind of hippocratical how people say the pistons were so terrible but Daly is well respected.

[@rickyv7757]

@Gilbert Ramirez do you know not know the head coach is the leader of any team? The coach calls the plays and have final say so on what goes on the court. The pistons may have been dirty but you're gonna say Daly couldn't police it, or make them tone it down? He didn't cause it was winning games.

[@cortezwatson9934]

@Gilbert Ramirez isiah was to little to bully anyone. They played tough and there is nothing wrong with that. What era are you from

[@dalelapointe9289]

So true the funny part is The bulls took 3 former bad boys and won more rings yet they were bad for basketball with Rodman being considered the worse one back in the Bad Boys days. Jordan ruled the NBA he got Isiah Thomas back for beaten him all them years congrats Jordan good job.

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

Like Duncan could ever get banned from the Olympics

[@ronanderson8490]

This is a topic that doesn't get addressed as much as it should. You have a player who was the heart of your team, and helped lead your team to back-to-back championships, and you couldn't back him up with a unified front?

[@포기하지마-c4u]

Jordan, Magic and Bird are the reason why people call it the dream team. And guess who they didn't like at the time. Isiah! If one of them decided not to be a part of the dream team because of him, it wouldn't be as sensational as it was which was what NBA planned and they succeeded. There were so many stakeholders who couldn't take the risk of having Isiah in the team. It is not solely Jordan's responsibility. It was not an all-star game which is just one game. They had to be around each other for two to three months for the Olympics! It was a good call not having Isiah in the team in my opinion. Let me put it this way. Isiah had a great SAT mark but he had bad extracurricular. So just suck it up, man.

[@oneblach]

What I don’t understand is why Isiah chose Chuck Daley to present him during the Hall of Fame induction.

[@younglove3362]

Because you can't believe stupid rumors. There's no evidence saying Chuck Daily didn't want Isiah on the team. The same way it's been rumored about player's not wanting Isiah on the team when ot was just 4 players.

[@elai3147]

thank you rob

[@briand.45]

Did find it odd that Chuck was the Isaiahless dream team 💯

[@RebeccaYen]

I'm confused. I watched Magic Johnson apologized to Isiah Thomas in a 1-on-1 interview, I thought it was for keeping Isiah Thomas off the Dream Team.

[@RebeccaYen]

@AGZ I see why Jordan seldom do interviews.

[@Iamnotddb]

This is the first time in my life I agree with Rob Parker. I’m in disbelief , I want to see the video cause genuinely don’t believe it’s him speaking

[@shep1582]

I was thinking exactly the same thing - hysterical!!!

[@Torq50]

Rob won this 4real!!!

[@dakingltroyproductofdade3579]

M 27 rob is a loser lol

[@aregimechangeisimminent5781]

John Stockton being unable to win a NBA Championship was karma for Isiah Thomas being excluded from the Dream Team.

[@Israel-nb7ip]

Like it was Stockton's fault. So should he have denied the invitation?

[@markj6681]

Yeah. You got to explain that my ma n

[@TELLMEWHOYAGOT]

if karma also goes by the name michael jordan then correct

[@ARealPerson21]

What did Stockton do to deserve this slander Karl Malone is the reason he doesn’t have a ring Malone always shrunk in the biggest moments

[@Destiny-ps6cs]

Isiah can blame himself the dream team was better off. Im sure it would be a lot of drama that is what they were trying to avoid.

[@Balraj.G.]

Isiah Thomas should have been on Dream Team. Amazing player and won back to back titles. 👍🏻🙏🏻

[@dakingltroyproductofdade3579]

Balraj Gill they played football not basketball they losers jail house team good they kept him off

[@jr9655]

Chuck had zero loyalty to Isaiah, after Zeke pit him on the map. I lost all respect for Daly back then

[@joferl9744]

Rob is the winner as his points made more sense

[@gqcarr]

MJ’s revenge for Thomas’s orchestrated “freeze-out” of Jordan during his rookie year All-Star game. (Michael never forgets)

[@Dryltd]

Jordan's statement before game 4 solidified the marketing of the Bad Boys for history. There were other tough teams in the league but the Pistons are champions. Why are there Bad Boys saying their feelings are hurt about basically being called Bad Boys?

[@tdlockley1]

Is it possible that Daly was not fond of Thomas???

[@artmeddaugh6669]

Chuck Daly became the Head Coach at Punxsutawney High School in 1955. He was Head Coach at Boston College and Penn in the 70's. He failed as Head Coach with the Cleveland Cavaliers in 1981-82. Then Jack McCloskey hires him to be Head Coach of the Detroit Pistons, and we all know the success the Pistons had under Chuck Daly. Do you think for one second that a basketball coach who started his career in a place famous for "Groundhog Day" would turn down the opportunity to Head Coach "The Dream Team"...YOUR NUTS! With or without Isiah, it didn't matter.

[@ktj1212]

Rob Parker acts like Jordan was the only one who didn't want Isiah on that team. the truth of it was, MJ, Pip, Malone, Bird, Barkley, and Drexler didn't want Isiah on that team. that's why he wasn't on the team. because half the roster despised him.

[@THEAdmiralXizor]

This is SO dumb. If Daly had pulled that, they'd have called Pat Riley immediately and nothing would have changed... hell, no-one may even have NOTICED.

[@cmorales5]

The Dream Team was incomplete without Thomas. It’s a big stain on all those stars that conspired against him.

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

Nope

[@dnice4145]

Nah, nobody really cared or cares about Thomas being left off the team except Thomas.

[@h.s936]

At that point in time M.J. made billions of dollars for the league was popular around the whole world. (NBA politics) Jordan might not have said it....but if Isiah was chosen Jordan just would have turned down the Olympics.....So he said it without saying it.

[@artmeddaugh6669]

Vinnie is 100% correct! Tell the whole story MJ, not just your side of it. Own up to what you said about The defending NBA Back-to-Back World Champion Detroit Pistons in print and to the media before your team dethroned them. I would have to think about not shaking your hand either, and make a quick decision in the moment about doing so like the Pistons did.

[@mudguts6785]

Who cares what Jordan said after the pistons were swept that was a bitch move not to shake hands absolute disgraceful. Isiah thomas pure bitch for doing that i dont care as a leader he should of bowled out like Man istead he went the disgrace way.

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

No one cares

[@willliam1420]

Players don't want Isiah, not just MJ. The team won't have a good time with that jerk on the team. It might have become a non Dream Team altogether. Management did the right thing for the team, it's about the Dream Team

[@MarkoRabin]

In 1991 Isiah was not top 3 player and no one wanted to play with him from the starting 5

[@TrueProphit]

So what? you don’t have to shake someone’s hand, also you have a right to your own opinion. It should of been the best team!

[@cudackedees3327]

IT wasn’t on is why dream team 1 is the best “team”. No one wants to play with him.

[@sportsactuary8574]

I agree with Rob and also Rodman when he said if Bird were a Black man he would be just another good guy.

[@djdoncruse1952]

Sports Actuary If Bird was black I’m sorry fam he would be even better .

[@xaviervega468]

Rodman's statement was laughable garbage.

[@TELLMEWHOYAGOT]

if bird was black he would be the goat because he probably would have had even more athleticism

[@sportsactuary8574]

@@xaviervega468 The announcers greatly favored Bird and the referees wouldn't call loose ball foul against him when he used his weight against a smaller player. His individual defense was weak and it would have been more obvious if he didn't have McHale. The guys with whom I talked about the NBA at that time felt McHale was the best player on those Celtic teams as does Charles Barkley. During that time period John Johnson of Seattle was the best passing forward in the NBA.

[@bobbybetwirlin8442]

Sports Actuary how when he’s a 3 time mvp and even had a 50-40-90 season

[@logosg]

As much as we believe in sports being a meritocracy this shows that premise is nonsense. I don’t want anyone to say it’s about championships. It can’t be stats. It can’t be ability. Until someone admits that this was personal, it will run and run and run.

[@lelandadams7514]

logosg Jordan and magic will never admit it I believe bird would if he was the reason

[@Israel-nb7ip]

The premise isn't "nonsense." One situation where personal relationships trumped a meritocracy doesn't make it nonsense. The fact is that the 3 most powerful, marketable and accomplished players on the team had real issues with Isiah because of Isiah's behavior. But it doesn't mean that in sports you don't earn your accomplishments. This was a perfect storm of circumstances where the team was being selected at the worst time for Isiah given the '91 eastern conference Finals, the Magic HIV announcement and Isiah allegedly questioning how he got it, etc. Its fucked up but its understandable.

[@kahlilh1]

People like Chris is why the league will be messed up.

[@camerenrandi]

Thank God Larry Bird never did that. FOH.

[@frankwhite8178]

Exactly💯

[@hdouglassbrown3312]

AGREED!, Hell Yeah! Rob hit the nail on the head, after all Isiah was coached by him. Jordan wasn't the problem, Magic was the problem because of his aids diagnose, and the pressure on him was tremendous. YOU Both missed the boat on this. Magic did sell out Isiah!

[@strawhats100]

@Drink Me so are we goint to ignore the fact that Bird, Magic, Pippen and MJ all had issues with Isiah. Not saying he's shouldn't have been on that Dream Team in '92...but this isn't just about MJ.

[@goatstature8263]

it was majic johnson who denied isiah not mj! majic and zeke had issues at that time plus majic wanted all the playing time at point gaurd

[@tallsmile28]

Rob is 100% correct. I don't get it. Larry Bird and the Celtics walked off on the Pistons. No one says anything about that.

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

Not the same thing m\oron

[@ojoj5194]

Chris Broussard haha this man haha I swear this dude 8% actual sports news, 92% speculation and hypotheticals. Chris Clippers out Broussard!! hahA STOPPPPEETTT

[@nael2770]

if Isiah Thomas said that MJ just won chips because pistons were old, then why is he pushing to join the dream team? smh.. if you are old, you don't play plain and simple.

[@CMO87]

Are he grown men really ego tripping enough to say what another man should have done. Unbelievable

[@goatstature8263]

Rob is wrong it was Magic Johnson who kept Isaiah off of the Dream Team Michael Jordan did not feel intimidated or inferior against no other player so Isiah playing when the team wouldn't have bothered him at all because he would have still did his thing if people remember Magic Johnson and Isiah Thomas had issues at that point and Magic Johnson didn't want to share the point guard spot with Isaiah he wanted it all for himself so he was the main guy who said he did not want Isiah on the team and for Isaiah if you make your bed you got to lay it at he locked Jordan out August 1st all star game tried to do a bunch of other underhanded things towards Jordan so when you do bad you get bad done back to you

[@gravitatingawaytv]

Do bad???? Dream team just meant the US's beat ever...and Isaiah didnt deserve it???? Put aside personal feeling..HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THEre...yeah others didnt want him on thete..but many who was in the team quoted saying Jordan didnt want..a d who would have had more influence to keep him off????..so foh

[@terrancejohnson5312]

We go to war because of one mans ego.But you don’t stand up for the guy.Who made your career and I despised Isaiah.But he should’ve 1000 % been on the Dream Team.

[@terrancejohnson5312]

Drink Me No you stop it dude people get killed everyday .Because of what family members do.That they had nothing to do with.And if Isaiah who had just won 2 was left off. Why wasn’t Daly also and I’m a MJ guy

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

@@terrancejohnson5312 shutup bruh

[@csabadobos322]

people used to forget about team chemistry. chemistry is very important. you don't always pick the better player when you build a team, you take who's more needed.

[@csabadobos322]

yes, isiah was a great player, but for the showcase, they needed magic and bird and mj. they all three had beefs with zeek, so i think, zeek wasn't even in talk for a second.

[@geebadd2391]

Rob is a 100% wrong

[@zikemiller1466]

I agree with Rob Parker.

[@toddqmay]

As was said earlier, Chuck was the coach of dream team BECAUSE of Thomas. Period. Olympics Jordan HAD to play. Barr nothing. Chuck sold out his lunch ticket. Betrayal!

[@1000percent]

Maybe this is why thomas retired shortly after .. all the shade this guy took made him wanna stop playing

[@tabbylove744]

Typical politics of NBA.

[@christiansoldier77]

Why are they treating this like the JFK assassination?? It was just a stupid basketball team 30 years ago. LET IT GO SMH

[@mahbramah]

Chuck didn’t want Isiah because he knew that Isiah was alienated from many players on DT1. Coach Daly even said that Thomas was a deserving player, but he wasn't selected. Enough guys from that team have spoke and wrote on the subject, i.e. Drexler, Pippen, Daly, Magic, and Barkley. In an interview, Drexler said although Isiah earned a spot on the team, everyone would be together for long stretches of time where getting along is required. Michael Jordan even said that Isiah being left off DT1 was a condition that came from higher places within USA Basketball. He couldn't get along, so he didn’t belong. Glad I could shed some light on this matter.

[@jasonmcintyre22]

It's not even a question Chuck should have resigned as the coach of the dream team their success was connected to each other before he was the coach of the Pistons he was a failed coach at Cleveland. You get a once in a generation type of talent that buys in to the system sacrifices personal numbers stays disciplined and brought you your only championships you ever had how hard is it to be loyal to that and how do you look at him or the other guys in the face after that 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@rebar33]

Commercials are brutal. Never again. Will make sure not to buy any of the products. Ridiculous.

[@Malaki727]

If I got opportunity to coach Micheal bird Ewing drexler magic Bye Isaiah see you next next season I'm busy

[@gatordontplaynoshit3332]

Isiah is the reason Chuck Daly got to coach that team in the first place. That would be like Phil Jackson saying, "Bye Michael, I'm gonna go coach Isiah & the rest of the dream team".

[@gatordontplaynoshit3332]

And I'm sure it's a typo, but I see it all the time lol. "Isaiah" Thomas is the one who played for the celtics. "Isiah" Thomas was the Pistons player.

[@mgm7198]

Broussard takes this debate.

[@timscott1094]

Check out the (VHS)version of the 89' 90 bad boys Pistons. Chuck Daily explained in an interview. He (Chuck) Warned Isiah Thomas NOT to walk off or this could effect your career moving forward. Coach Daily knew what was planned in regards to the 92' Olympic dream team.

[@cyril6933]

Hello, does anybody know why Dominique Wilkins was not part of the dream team neither? at the time of the selection Mullin and him had similar numbers, but Wilkins had already a much larger legacy and was a superstar in the late 80's. I understand that from a style of play point of view, Mullin was a better fit, but I'm under the impresssion it was less important than having the biggest superstars in the team.

[@chloechen3831]

No idea why people are saying Isiah Thomas should have taken Christian Laettner's spot. The plan was always to have one spot symbolically reserved for a collegiate player, and they went with Laettner. Thomas would never have had Laettner's spot in any circumstance - he could only have gotten in at the expense of John Stockton, and turned out the other superstars favored Stockton.

[@TP-mb8jg]

Ladies and Gentlemen this back and forth is not solving anything! Isiah and Jordan should set aside their pride and egos and admit their wrong doings as grown men. Only then this will get resolved.

[@trh917]

Agree with Rob

[@mroberts453]

I remember when all of this went down back then. Had Chuck Daily stepped forward and spoke up or stepped aside it would have spoke volumes. The biggest take away also is this. In team sports you are taught to ride or die with the team that got you to that mountain top. Chuck didn't do that. He threw Isaiah Thomas under the bus so he got get the spotlight of coaching the greatest team ever assembled. Rob is 100% right on this one. Zeke should have made that roster. Chuck Daily should have stood up for his guy that helped slap 2 rings on his fingers.

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

Shutup bruh

[@cmosdriver]

QUESTION ~ How do we know if Chuck didn't fight at hard as possible to get Thomas on that team? He may have, he might not have. We don't know. Why are you guys talking as if you guys KNOW?

[@Bwyyz]

Aye Yo Rob Parker ! Chris Brusssrd ! Somebody please speak on Magic Johnson s book and his influence on Isiah not being on the Dream Team

[@dalelapointe9289]

Totally agree with Parker, Its sad that Daily didn't resign he should of period. Its perhaps the worse thing I have ever heard done bye a coach of a player that won him chips. The argument of Thomas walking off the court is no different then Larry Bird did to Detroit yet he gets a pass. Sorry but sick of hearing that !

[@tashrif46]

So what does that tell you Rob and Chris? That even Chuck Daly knew how Isiah Thomas could have alienated a lot of people in the team.

[@MrOnyx851]

Wait Isaiah Thomas that stood up for Magic during the nba blackball, the president of the players association that stood up for players getting paid more ... hmm this clearly an economical thing

[@tashrif46]

13:18 Rob Parker, all you have to do is look at Magic Johnson's words from 2009's book and connect the dots. He stated point blank that 'nobody wanted him on the team'. Another thing you can do is go and interview each and every member of the Dream Team personally and ask them point blank. Or you can just be the normal 'speculative' journalists and say the obvious and blame Michael Jordan over and over again but without any tangible proof

[@fatdavis5312]

Lmao rob got da win...hell yeah the judges were great.

[@dakingltroyproductofdade3579]

Fat Davis I’m with Chris on this one

[@Eujoung]

Btw I think Chuck Daly was put in a tough spot. From my understanding he committed to coaching before selections. Had he protested for Isiah Thomas he would have risked losing the players' respect from day one (Favoritism). It might have hindered his ability to coach the team enough that he would end up stepping down.

[@tomwallenfeldt3139]

The Bulls were on top of the world and they were not going to play if Zeke was in. The drama if Scottie and MJ was off the roster is an actual fact. Zeke was a punk and his personality was his own demise. It shows that sportsmanship really does matter to a national team roster to be happy.

[@davidboyd9742]

To those who buy into this notion that Isiah was whispering around the league about Magic's possibly being gay. Those whispers or rumors were actually started by Magic himself the National Enquirer& his teammate A C Green. Magic was photographed by the National Enquirer at a Hollywood party booed up to a known homosexual men, Jermaine Jones, who later became a transsexual. The fact that everyone who's old enough to remember this are now acting like they never saw or heard it is weird asf to me. It was all over the tabloid at the time. Then A C Green did a live interview where he said he did not agree with Magic Johnson lifestyle & that he was f--kin everything in Hollywood. Notice he didn't say every woman in Hollywood. That's when the rumors spreaded like wildfire. How the media completely twisted it to make Isiah Thomas the face of the rumor & a villan is a lesson in the power of propaganda to make people believe what they're told instead of what they actually seen with their own 2 eyes. Those pictures are still out there & any real journalist could easily dig them up if he really wanted to. But most wouldn't dare for fear that they themselves would no longer have access these A-list parties so they keep their mouth shut.

[@christiansoldier77]

Rob Parker comparing Thomas not being on the Dream Team to people getting killed in the neighborhood?

[@ProfessorofTruth]

Magic Johnson has publicly announced that Isiah deserved to be named to the Dream Team. Michael Jordan called Zeke "the second best point guard in NBA history." Closure has been achieved in this three decade controversy . Isiah Thomas wins again.

[@Kirbystare1992]

Question if nba permanently shifts to December through august what happens when olympics rolls around? Do the Olympics shift just for nba players to play?

[@twhite3850]

What about Joe Dumars? He never bothered him. He was at the same level or better than Stockton.

[@SILMANTV]

They need polls on these videos for these type of things but they don’t do it Kuz it would always agree wit Chris.. Rob is just a contrarian nun more nun less

[@mrwakeupjacob4647]

Isaiah stained himself

[@halfpricesushi]

If this was about fielding the best possible basketball team, how is that possible without MJ, Magic, and Bird all of whom probably wouldn’t have played with Isiah. This has to be trolling

[@MrEvolution513]

Now more than ever, I'm very curious about what transpired between Isiah Thomas and Chuck Daly between June 1991 and April 1992, when they lost to Knicks in first round. Isiah must have been furious with Chuck for not backing him up on Dream Team, and Chuck was likely angry that Isiah didn't listen to Chuck right there on the court 5/27/1991, when Chuck advised "Isiah I disagree, I don't think you guys should do this."

[@sharifs649]

Was just thinking the same thing imagine still reporting to the same boss that didn't give you a recommendation for your promotion and you been working w him for years you would feel some type of way

[@dtraversodt]

I'm with Rob on this.Aside from his issues with Magic, walking past Jordan and Pippen with shaking hands should have been expected cause their rivalry was so fierce. If anything,Isaiah is the reason Jordan became ornery and surely even towards teammates like Steve Kerr. Again, Chuck cared to much of what people thought about him namely three Big Three of Jordan,Bird and Magic

[@Lootroq]

I feel like Rob lost the debate, but at the same time he is right

[@Eujoung]

If we are talking deserves, Hakeem Olajuwon was the best center in the NBA prior to 1992. He was unable to be selected because he had represented Nigeria in the Juniors games in 1980. And Olympic rules states that he had to wait 3 years after being naturalized in orde to switch countries. To put things in perspective, a foreign player who didn't represent another country do not have to wait three years. Had Olajuwon not played in the Juniors for Nigeria, he could of been naturalized in 1992 and played. I'm just trying to point out that Isiah Thomas wasn't the only top player not to have made the Dream Team.

[@gordon2945]

No one on the team wanted him on the team. Period.

[@MrEvolution513]

Yes it's true if Daly turned down the coaching job due to IT snub, another coach would have been hired and Daly incident forgotten. But at least Daly would have shown integrity and class by doing so. However, had Isiah taken chuck's advice on not walking out on 91 Bulls, especially while looking down at floor trying to duck out of sight, i truly feel Daly would have gone to bat for him & declined coaching job if need be. But why would chuck do so when IT clearly screwed himself?

[@usaisgood8433]

FUK NO!! U don’t reject that Opportunity!

[@DreMurf313]

You wanna know why Rod Thorn can't go into detail & say exactly who was the one with the final say on Isiah being blackballed? Because the persons responsible are former executive producer of NBC DICK EMBERSOL & DAVID STERN former Commissioner. In the end they're the ones who decides whose playing & whose not!! Though MJ has a lot of stroke but those two make the final decision.

[@danieldawkins7960]

Chuck Daley was the architect of the "Bad Boys" and the driving force BEHIND "Jordan Rules"......but Isaiah is hated??? This was sick and cowardly.

[@ericjordan6059]

Nope. Isaiah came up with the idea after Detroit was torched by Jordan.

[@danieldawkins7960]

@@ericjordan6059 Oh, I thought the COACH was in charge . Many players have ideas, but the Coach either nixes them or signs off on the idea and enhances and enforces it. Detroit didn't play that style because of the players- it was the Coach behind their savagery.

[@chadchesney3858]

Forget the walk off. Forget the Bird comment. Isiah was the leader of the DIRTIEST TEAM OF ALL TIME. A team that made enemies all throughout the league. There is a price to pay for that. And I’m glad he was left of the Dream Team. Did his talent qualify him for the team, without question. Did his reputation qualify him, HELL NO.