The OFFICIAL META Revealed! | You Won't Believe the Best & Worst Heroes in Marvel Rivals

[@coach_mills]

SUBSCRIBE!!! - www.youtube.com/@coach_mills?sub_confirmation=1 What guides do you want to see next?

[@Stepbrofate]

Maybe like how to play different play styles like dive brawl stuff like that

[@johnhughes9766]

Storm

[@clgillit1125]

I’d like I guide on positioning (if you haven’t made one already) like for strategists, Hawkeye/widow/hela, vanguards etc etc

[@brendan3503]

Support guide plz?

[@scotchbarrel4429]

Rocket Racoons win rate vs other strategists win rate, need to be taken into context with the ban rate for those characters. A higher usage mitigated losses in higher ranks, lower use through bans reduce the total number which maintains the % win rate for that character. More opportunity to use a character and win, offsets the losses as a %, you're welcome.

[@janscheben6434]

I think the problem with rocket in low rank is, if the brb brings back a useless dps, because they insta die, they just die again and waste the respawn.

[@zombiegamer1069]

Still better than leaving him dead

[@zachwisneski1204]

People play cloak and dagger because you could be deaf and blind and still farm ult faster than anyone else in the game

[@kylecarey4189]

Auto tracking primary fire with bouncing is so stupid

[@raidenstark4964]

​@@kylecarey4189That needs to be removed ASAP !

[@Frozoken]

​@@kylecarey4189Yup such a braindead character. Luckily dagger has by far the worst dps in the game at like 35 or something

[@qthequick]

Needs a nerf. SW too. I don’t like none skill characters. It feels cheap. Everyone has to aim but you is stupid

[@Frozoken]

@@qthequick scarlet witch is terrible she does not heed a nerf also she at least has to aim the right click unlike both dagger and cloak which are pure auto aim

[@whatisthis839]

Hardest part of being a Rocket main is ignoring your teams complaints in the beginning of a match.

[@andres201292]

yup

[@prestonbrown2771]

When they compare you to the trash rocket they had in their last lobby. Rocket is an excellent team-first character

[@frozenvodka]

mantis main, same same bro

[@rigbytheaussie8925]

True dat

[@HarryvandeSunweb]

Im a certified rocket hater. I judge you for choosing to main a braindead easy character like rocket. You are the mercy mains of marvel rivals. Worst of all, rocket forces his team into very specific comps to make rocket shine (triple support, punisher/bucky) Also, please don't listen to coach mills. Many of his deductions from these stats are very flawed. I am only here because I'm addicted to marvel rivals content, and as far as content goes, I consider this video to be slop. Edit: an example of a marvel rivals content creator who's opinions I do consider valuable is nate150k

[@DRSmith-fz4qp]

The issue here is that most people watching this are no higher than gold and the meta is completely different depending on the rank (ie. The Hulk is great at higher elos but gets little value in lower elos.). Also, a lot of these characters require mechanical skill like Hela and most bronze/silver/gold players can't aim anyway. It all depends on the rank. A great example is Wanda, who can team wipe in bronze but isn't even considered for play in diamond+.

[@Griffith74]

ive been in quite a few matches with wanda in high elo

[@maozedowner5915]

Yep. Wanda is straight trash in even plat lobby, but her ult works almost every time on gold and below lobbies.

[@HitzzNX]

Low elo is just really random. There is a lot of plat/diamond smurfs as well.

[@Slammedjambread]

Why is that a problem?

[@thebearded4427]

@@Griffith74 Good wandas are still good. Its just very very niche. Like if you want to shut down flankers. Where she really shines is in the double invis woman matchup. She can pretty much completely wipe a team when both pop their ults. The best use for her ult is pretty much zoning. Like forcing back a push from an angle. It's not a team wipe, it's a certain one target who overextend kill or clear ult.

[@unqltango]

The CaD win rate is also low because often both teams have them, so in those cases for each win there is also a lose.

[@zife101]

Aren't win rates unmirrored?

[@megadwarf4714]

@@zife101 yeah but theres not a whole lot of these games

[@Porutake]

The win rates are taken as unmirrored matches

[@jayo4739]

@@Porutakeoh ok

[@kunkudunk1133]

Truthfully I think C&D have a bad winrate because people just aren’t as good at them as they think they are. I have a friend with tons of hours in them and people keep auto locking in C&D and they are almost always way worse than my friend is at the character (which given their play time isn’t surprising). It seems they are viewed as easy because of their auto aim healing but I think they are harder than they look given how many choices they have and cds they can juggle. I don’t personally play them much because I’m terrible at using cloaks right click. Also their ult needs its visuals updated. Too many people dying from not standing on it.

[@MaxZeCat]

Rocket might be EZ to use but mastering hiding your BrB, never dying and adding DPS at the right time is what makes a gud rocket. Pretty sure he gets his ULT the fastest too

[@berniechoy5482]

I've been maining rocket this season and I have a 67% win rate and average 9 revives per 10 with 25k healing per 10

[@DisneyStarWarsSucks]

He’s still one of the easiest to learn what you’ve said does separate a good rocket to a bad one but he’s still incredibly easy to learn good but easy

[@Sandromp3]

@@berniechoy5482 thats insane dude

[@Mcjesus97]

I’m averaging 20k healing but 5k damage and 15 kills in diamond lobbies, you’re not playing him to his potential. Your just healing lol

[@quisshy]

Yeah if you die as rocket you’re practically losing two lives (revive breaks) so it’s essential to not die or you’re throwing super hard

[@rjt.3639]

As a winter soldier main getting a rocket off the start feels like a free win most of the time

[@colecarmichael5724]

100% buckys become machine guns and honestly when I see the team up I scrabble to tell my team to kill the rocket bc we all die too fast to be in duel

[@SurfNturfz]

I get a rocket in like 20% of my games & they either never drop the ammo thing or they only use it once or twice all game lmao..... then they finally use it & I wipe their whole team 😂

[@0hdj176]

brother it may feel like that sometimes but when you are getting run down by a wolverine and all you hear is enjoy the amplifier you're gonna hate your life

[@TheGielnik]

@@0hdj176 winter soldier getting run down by a wolverine? lol

[@kylesawkon4074]

I think I’ve got over 40 hours on rocket bout to get him lord on a second account

[@Bigred7642]

My thought is that Cloak and Dagger is so OP that she's often picked by trash players that try to use her to compensate for how bad they are and it doesn't work out great

[@rensro2138]

It's actually because she gets insane stats like 50k healing and 15k damage with high final hits so your mmr ends up very high and you get paired with low mmr teammates. Trust me I tried with a friend and he got his second account easily to gran master while mostly playing Rocket, he plays bucky on his main. Storm gets great stats but not the insane damage of squirrel, namor, punisher that's why she doesn't raise your mmr as much.

[@cscs88]

I can't stand when there's a bad CD. They are super important for a team, so don't play her him if you suck.

[@coolguy2058]

The most insane thing to me is even after looking at the current state of hawkeyes gameplay. We still have that one bronze player who got hit with a 1/18 headshot, logs off the game and starts advocating to nerf him even more.

[@turtleanton6539]

Mygod😅😅😅😅😅

[@kylesawkon4074]

He’s still nasty imo in the right hands

[@ArmedandDangerous918]

i have a 44% accuracy with hawkeye and he still feels weak. You might need constant 60% to make him viable. He has no range and takes way too long to shoot. They shouldn’t have nerfed both of those aspects just one

[@GlubySnotGlubbiest]

This video isn’t even accurate. He’s not using the official Marvel rivals website pick rate/win rate

[@coolguy2058]

@@GlubySnotGlubbiest Yeah obviously he's not using the official site, rivals tracker is massively more precise. The official site dosent track ban rates, tracks win rates for pc and console play separately and averages the win rate from season 1 and season 0 together making it completely unreliable as a metric for any characters stats.

[@kashiro2492]

The moment i hit plat ppl started getting tilted in lobbies and throwing games after we lose the first point wtf

[@Iforgor777]

what class you play bro? I’m telling you try and convince your team to swap into a 3 man team up like the namor luna Jeff. I love hulk and mister fantastic feels great into situations where you need to take space

[@Iforgor777]

but sometimes there’s legit just a 26/2 Hela on the enemy team wtf you gonna do about it gg go next or just pick psylocke

[@kashiro2492]

@Iforgor777 lmao the class don't matter when my own groot walls off the my teams spawn door on a capture point map just to prevent us from contesting since we lost the first round and they don't want to try to win and would litterally rather give up and type gg in chat

[@williewillikers9631]

I'll never understand such childish, loser behavior from those types of people 1 thing doesnt go their way and they throw a tantrum and take it out on the team, it's like why do they even play?

[@majesticfool]

@@Iforgor777 this is the worst advice for pubs, no one wants to play a character they dont know that well

[@thebearded4427]

Rocket is strong because he got infinite heals built into his heal and he got great mobility, and a good teamup. He's also able to avoid high skill dive, which means he can't be punished as easily for being out of position, while also being able to heal team mates out of LOS. Combine that with him being a low prio target because of his mobility, that means you basically have a free healer in the backline constantly, while also being able to negate the kills on the other team mates that were considered a target. Meanwhile luna, dagger and invis woman are high prio targets that get solo ulted. Storm is soo strong because she builds ult way faster than anything else pretty much combined with the constant damage boost around you. Basically you're always able to trade a defensive ult for a attack one AND get picks once the engage is over. Magik is terrifying because of her one-shot combo for almost all squishy targets, aswell as her "get out of jail for free". Good Magiks matchup is pretty much always a loss. Penni is the classic area denial hero. She can pretty much entierly deny all flanks, and or shut down a backline. Combine that with being a great wolverine counter and being able to force backline targets into unfavourable positions and you got a really oppressive tank. Mantis is hella fun. Same situation as with Storm. The damage boost straight up wins fights. Having a strange-off and enemy strange's shield breaks a few seconds before yours, and its pretty much a won fight. Fantastic should be played like a dive denial hero. The reason he's so "weak" right now is because he's not meant to brawl. He's supposed to peel his backline, turn around and fight in the front. His E gives so much shield its almost criminal. Pretty sure the reason invisible woman is so low in win rate is because she never gets her team up or the peels from mr incredible that she really needs to pop off. Loki is amazing just because he can either defensive ult or offensive ult depending on the situation. Know the enemy have no def ult? Copy an offensive. Know they will use an engage? Pop your team mates defensive ult. Combine that with his rune ability which is literally better than any defensive ult in the game AND it can be used at a range AND wont be solo ulted. Pop E, hit shift, your team mate just healed instead of took damage. Just insane. The only changes i'd make this season is; Reduce Storms ult build speed and reduce the cooldown on Adams E by 1 second. Thats pretty much it.

[@Mral236d]

What you said flies in low ranks, but if you don’t have 2 defensive ults in gm+ lobbies you are basically throwing. Only time he’s good is as a 3rd support. Hitting q is too strong and even if you can still kill through defensive ults when rocket ults too it’s just not as consistent. Of all the hero’s in the game rocket mains are by far the most toxic. Even in my gm lobbies 99% of the time almost Everyone isn’t toxic but if someone is they are very likely on rocket.

[@kunkudunk1133]

As a storm main, I agree on the storm analysis. They buffed her damage (which increases ult charge speed) and also buffed her ult but didn’t increase her ult cost. If they increased her ult cost she’d be far more reasonable as yeah she farms ult insanely fast after the damage buffs

[@Amphvptere]

Hey man, there’s other things to say than “pretty (much)”

[@Amphvptere]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Mral236d why would you say gm+ when you are at the bottom of the range, you can speak for gm and lower but not +

[@sarcasualindividual]

This was a really good breakdown, and I completely agree and I think most average to advanced players would agree with the synopsis

[@christianst.hilaire6712]

This vindicates me as a rocket main. Recently lost a few games and had my party complain about the lack of defensive ults on our team.

[@sugarCookies1209]

I mean ur team got a point no hate

[@brianp9268]

Did you ult when the other team defensive ulted like every rocket

[@christianst.hilaire6712]

@@brianp9268 A member of my party plays Punisher and I ult to combo with them or to amp pressure after a pick. I ain’t your gold rocket lol.

[@He-Tries]

As long as you're dealing a lot of damage, and have 2 other supports. You need 2 defensive ults to match 2 defensive ults, which is why the best rocket in the world runs a 3 support combo so he can focus on damage and being annoying with a side of heals

[@TheJarlath9]

Or just use off angles healls and get at least 1 or 2 picks people like to complain but most of the time they just lack skill me included and im a rocket main and solo ranked to diamond 3

[@elrushe1132]

Rockets heal cannot miss and his Revive is one of the big parts of why he has crazy stats but one important thing people esp in high elo are figuring out that his ult combo with other ults like Squirrel girl or even just infinite ammo punisher/Bucky can kill through support ults which is massive killing through support ult is a game winner since people will not expect it and often wont press other support ults and end up dying along side em Dont hit me with the Luna can also give you 40% dmg boost well Rocket can heal while giving it to you

[@dominicwilliams214]

I just wish that he wasn't in every comp I play in. I see him in a majority of my teams and I'd just like if people stopped forcing him man like sometimes you need more burst heals and the revive is good but I'd like to not die in the first place😅.

[@lmpoknya]

Low plat so my opinion might not be the most accurate, but I think one major issue for low ranked rockets is that they only spam the heal and dont shoot their gun. The damage might suck, but any point of damage is additional pressure for the enemy team. Not to mention, the healing from the orbs dont stack, so spamming the orbs doesn't achieve anything

[@mrfamousamos9819]

@@lmpoknyaNah shooting his gun is the issue, it’s no point of doing it unless you find someone low or singled out. As soon as you stop spamming his heals you’re putting everyone else at risk, since he has no burst heal capabilities. He’s not really meant for creating pressure, the games I win with a rocket on my team he has no damage

[@noahrapalo1893]

his gun is fantastic lol shreds any divers while having fantastic mobility you can weave it in when your teams full to break utility and shields with that ult . he’s my idk what else to do character in gm and celestial lobbies

[@Mral236d]

lol you sound like a rocket main. If you don’t have 2 defensive ults in gm+ you’re basically throwing. He’s only good as a 3rd support. You will lose to the enemy team pressing q if you have a rocket on your team. I’ve had games where we had more Elims, damage and we were the better team but our rocket refused to switch off and we lost solely because of dps ults. We would hold perfect with no deaths until they ulted. Plus while what you said may be right in theory even in high ranks it’s not consistent enough to kill through ults to justify picking rocket over Luna, C&D or invisible woman. In low ranks where people don’t know how to manage cooldowns, have bad mechanics, and don’t ult properly then yeah he can be good. Or if you have Bucky on your team for the team up, but overall I’d take 2 defensive ults over him 100% of the time. I don’t mind if he’s a 3rd support though. Most games have 3 supports in diamond+ anyways. Rocket players are always the most toxic and refuse to switch. Even in gm where most people tend to not be toxic and generally work good together as a team there’s always a toxic rocket main that mutes comms and won’t switch.

[@yubear420]

tim gonna lose his mind with rocket racoon pick and win rate lmao

[@romanrules007]

He already knows and rocket is growing on him. He played last night as Bucky and had a rocket constantly boosting him and he was like “I’m starting to like rocket”

[@ThePsychoRenegade]

I see what he's saying but Tim is not someone with an opinion I value for this game.

[@mrshaw5006]

​@@ThePsychoRenegadeAny game I've seen him in tbh

[@maybeisuckatlife]

Finally someone who understands Rocket!

[@LASAGNA_LARRY]

Rocket basically makes any fight a 7v6. It’s really that simple as to why he’s winning.

[@zamzamxiv]

I’ve been seeing people say that, what do people mean by that? Is it bc of his revive ability?

[@Pazey1]

@@zamzamxiv Ya man revive every 40 odd seconds flank can go in get a pick die and come back so effectively it would be 5v6 most of the game

[@Joeyseagulls1]

“Stats don’t lie” Stats don’t tell the whole story.

[@Germwalk]

But they still tell a very cohesive story that a good player can finish themselves with a bit of intelligence. That’s what you “stats don’t tell the full story” people don’t seem to understand. It tells enough of the story for a good player to fill in the blanks.

[@GlubySnotGlubbiest]

Also, he’s not even using the official website. It’s not an accurate video.

[@master_ranch_of_the_runnin7289]

Bogur made a video recently about the triple support meta. He showcased cloak and dagger going from 8% ult to full in just 19 seconds. That's a little crazy.

[@h3ro11mcintyre]

Penny main - most people think they can tank the mine damage or are completely obvious to them. If you play on your web, you are immune to Logans dive. Playing against people aware of the mine dispenser is tough, but proper placement and good team comp negates that almost completely. And you get a free kill every time you are on defense at the begging of the match.

[@DezmondBroadway]

Agreed I've been having fun throwing the mines on walls behind the enemy teams healers and a few by my healers for divers. I'll usually get a free kill or two while holding the other team back.

[@brandoom4996]

so good to see this channel super active again and to hear that excitement in your voice again

[@soccerdude360]

As a season 0 and 1 high gm player, really anything is playable

[@KiruParu]

True, really depends on player.

[@wolfattackz187]

Thats so interesting, So youre saying you could play just about any character and win?

[@shaf2806]

Yes. Ive seen gm Wandas do not bad. You can be good at weak heroes and make them work. ​@@wolfattackz187

[@pendantairplane]

Honestly I'd kinda disagree for some of the dive characters. Specifically Spider-man and BP feel really unplayable into certain comps

[@TrippieMint]

People call me crazy for banning cloak and dagger along with magik But they don’t understand These one tricks are actually useless when their main gets banned and they are extremely powerful

[@eliteharbinger]

i agree, i think magik needs a little nerf, she in the right hands is busted...

[@Amphvptere]

@@eliteharbinger nerfing the character would mess with Magik’s effectiveness overall, not lower the skill ceiling

[@joomer9511]

Ur right I should find another hero to play cuz I'm fucked if they ban magik

[@Reaver102]

@@eliteharbinger Well, she will if they don't carry over her anchor bonus.

[@alter6243]

Only problem is your teammates also might be a Cloak or Magik main 😭 with a 50% pick rate you’re basically guaranteed to have someone who mains C&D or plays her a lot.

[@supersonic4863]

the reason storm has such a high winrate is, in my opinion, that she hard-counters dive. her thunder boosted E is an instant, auto-hitting 35 damage (basically automatically taking out any shield charged by someone like magik or panther) on anyone in its range that hits every 2 seconds, plus increased damage from your team to take out a diver faster. she flies, so characters like black panther will struggle against her unless theyre really good or its a really tight spot on the map, and it also helps target any divers trying to escape. and then she also still helps the team in a fight even if shes focussing a backliner, simply because of that buffed damage that makes your team better at fighting tanks. pretty much her entire kit puts an insane amount of pressure on enemy divers to time their dives well, and more importantly, to get out safely, which means less aggression and therefore less pressure from said enemy divers on your healers. imo at a similar level to peni whilst also being far easier to use on offense and being way better at finishing off enemies consistently. this, in combination with the fact many storm players were already playing her in season 0 when she was a lot worse, which required them to do better to achieve the same level of worth, and now they suddenly have a very strong character who they already know how to play, and who very few know how to counter. one of the few effective ways to beat a team with a storm is to take out the storm, at long range, quickly. aka hela or hawkeye, who also both got nerfed, and who require significant aim, which most lower rank players do not have at a good enough level to beat her consistently and quickly enough to win team fights. thats just my take as a storm main since season 0 though. TL;DR: storm is really damn strong against dive teams and always has value even when focussing divers, in combination with many storm players already playing her in season 0. her strongest counterplay also got nerfed.

[@ElusiveMysteryMan]

I'm also a season 0 Storm main and I agree. I think that her win rate is partially because people don't seem to respect enemy Storms yet. It's intuitive that you need to take out Punisher's turret before you can advance, or that you need to stay out of Hawkeye's sightlines, or that you stay away from Peni's nest, but to me it seems that players on all levels haven't internalized the fact that Storm's sphere of influence is dangerous and that as long as Storm is alive the other team is getting buffed. Whenever I play against Storm I make sure to kill her first during any team fight because most of the time if no one focuses her, your team will either lose or need an ult to win. Add in the fact that Storm's ult can kill your backline at any moment. All that means that she should be a priority target or at least someone who's area you need to respect on the battlefield, but players still don't really treat her like one. Hopefully they won't nerf her just because she's winning this season (ok maybe nerf her ult a bit but don't bring her back to season 0). Storm really isn't that hard to counter. She's always with her team floating a little above everyone else. Players just need to start pinging her and shooting her before engaging in a dive or a team brawl. I'm probably going to regret telling people that they need to kill my main more.

[@kylesawkon4074]

She’s easily countered with spidey especially if there’s a venom. Her damage boost tho is nice and her ult is ridiculous

[@supersonic4863]

@ spidey is definitely the diver that is good against her, because hes so absurdly fast and good at doing burst damage, aswell as already wanting to jump in, do like 2 attacks, and leave immediately constantly anyway. good spideys have definitely messed me up a few times as storm. luckily most spideys arent good lol.

[@falzeiy6652]

As a season 0 storm main you’re right, a lot of people don’t really know how to counter her, the only characters I really have a problem with are Spider-Man’s and Hawkeyes

[@kickitsmooth]

Yeah she is good but not ban worthy. Once people learn to just shoot her things will settle down.

[@Greenalex89]

Initially, to me Rocket seemed weak compared to other healers. But giving him another chance by actually utilizing his movement+ positioning and using his E wisely changed my opinion by 180°. If u can move well with him, u: 1.) ...will be able to pump out a ton of healing cause ur so hard to focus and kill and ur constantly healing from the backlines. 2.) ...will have such a blast evading Psylockes, Panthers, Spidermen whatever.. who are failing to kill u. Having very low deaths+ a ton of healing just feels good and provides so much value to the team.

[@stan5936]

As a C&D main I’ve found in platinum that slowing down not worrying about ulti charge and focusing on team picks even if less score leading to better games

[@TexanShield]

Told all ya'll non-believers Rocket was GUDDD. - Sincerely A Humble Not So Humble Slightly Sadistic Rocket Lord. Much love to all the ppl who shared my beliefs & love for the Rocket man. We vibin on a whole different level in this community

[@MurakumoVance]

I'm not sure how many people are aware of this, but Peni also counters Magik HARD AF! I mean like, I rarely rarely RARELY ever die to a Majik when I'm playing Peni. The only time she ever wins that fight is if I don't know she's there or someone has already previously damaged me. Otherwise if it's me versus her 1v1 and she does NOT have the element of surprise, I will just ALWAYS win. I know what kind of damage she can inflict upon my backline, so I swap my focus to her immediately, web her up, & bury her in mines. She is the SECOND easiest pick for me go grab, with the first one being Iron-Fist. People don't seem to realize that you can pretty much deploy all of Peni's abilities at once. So the mili-second that web hits, I'm shooting mines & I try to predict whether or not they're going to attempt to flea, or commit to the fight. If I think they'll flee, I launch those mines in their exit pathway. If I think they're gonna try to pressure me, I put the mines closer to me & the success rate that I find with this strat is UNREAL! Peni is such a cluch anti-dive character. She's a real menace to players that 1 trick dive. Even Black Panther players do not present a big enough threat. I personally think that Peni is without a doubt the most slept on Vanguard in the whole game!

[@lemueldavis3083]

Shhh! you're talking too much 😂 Let them keep underestimating her

[@zealousgiraffe1010]

Yeah Peni needs nerfs she is not slept on at all people know that she is insanely powerful

[@BoltHardcheese]

I play a lot of fps games, so my aim is good. I usually play support, but when we have enough healers I play Hela and do really well with her. When supporting, I play mostly CnD (but also like Rocket and Adam Warlock). I can aim, so am not using her as a crutch. However, I do find that not having to concentrate on aiming is a plus, as I can then pay really close attention to my positioning, where my teammates are, where the main enemy group and its divers are, and keeping a mental track of who has and hasn't used their ultimates. A bad CnD player will just spam left click and shut their brain off as they don't have to aim. A good CnD player takes advantage of that freed up mental bandwith to really monitor the battlefield and keep on top of everything.

[@carvode7428]

Low winrate/high pickrate is also a result of flex players. People climb to a rank playing dps for example, but when there is no healer main on a team they will flex to a well known s tier support without competent up to rank skills to play it well. Thus the winrate falls

[@shinygekkouga52]

Loki is so underrated! He has a relatively high skill floor, sure, but he’s able to dip into so many areas of the meta. Access to verticality, insane healing, virtually infinite ult potential, there’s not much he’s missing out on.

[@tanner_nc9818]

I think Tim single handedly started the rocket slander lol

[@Josh-md1bc]

Hawkeye just needs more defensive utility. It’s so hard to stay alive in any fight that becomes anything more than a 1v1

[@dirt_dert_durt]

The reason Storm still has a low pickrate is because of all the tier lists from last season putting her in f tier. Everybody seriously had no idea what they were talking about haha

[@trvpmusic2569]

They updated her and boosted her damage now she's basically broken

[@auctica2392]

a separate “meta list” or something like that would be nice , because i think that the defined “meta” differs in plat to gm yk?

[@fts_alexander5091]

On the topic of rocket I think his value increases when there is bans in play because there are less ults that team wipe in play.

[@victormooreracing]

Rocket is the top healer because Rocket players are actually trying to heal their teammates. Luna, C&D and Invis all try to get kills until they get their Ult.

[@Darexyion]

As an invisible woman main, I do both and just sit in the back until a diver hits me, then I just run away, lol

[@wondercat6169]

Nah it's that Rez beacon

[@double5646]

Telling you are bad without telling me it

[@stan5936]

The only aggressive healer I know is Loki??? You poor soul I’d hate to see your lobbies

[@trey6485]

This is just wrong

[@TyMazoka]

This vid got my sub coach keep making good content much love

[@mapekz]

Would love to see a guide on playing against specific enemy offenses, e.g. characters like Iron Man/Storm/etc vs hitscan (Punisher, Hela, Star Lord), Namor, Spider-Man, maybe even Winter Soldier. There are tips scattered around your guide videos that cover a lot of the fundamentals of peaking and cover usage and cooldown management but I feel having a breakdown of how a character can still perform well by outplaying soft and some hard counters can help a lot of people level up overall game sense and skill, even if they eventually find they have to swap characters.

[@Deity503]

Simply the best creator for Rivals. Appreciate your work

[@BugRaiser]

I just got to Silver2 today been going up in rank since I’ve been watching your videos.

[@ProfNekko]

I think one other thing about Rocket is that he actually outputs a pretty solid amount of DPS in addition to his healing. So in a fight he can help facilitate first blood faster

[@tigerfalco]

The pick rate for Storm is so low because shes banned a lot I also want to make a small correction on Wolverine, you said he doesnt take much skill...but Id argue thats only if your supports are pocketing you. Pocketed Wolverine can carry a whole match, but if he's not pocketed or getting much help, he has to play smart or else he'll feed without much value. I know because not only have i seen it from people above, below, and same rank as me, but ive experienced it myself. I picked him up right before people started to realize he's good. Ive had games where im managing to get by without help, and games without help where im better switching off. But the games where I get healed, I really go in and mess people up. Maybe at GM where the healers are better at target priority instead of just heal botting tanks if youre inting a bit its fine, but any rank lower than that youll feel your lack of value.

[@gabigaming4550]

Thanks for sharing this. It forces reflection and really changes our understanding of the game. Like the Rocket winrate isn't in line with the feeling we get in game. We ofcourse do not have the full picture. But I think this is worth giving him a try and finding out where his strength lies and how to get advantage of him. Not having a defensive ult can feel underwhelming but that might just be a human feeling and our experience, really subjective. Love u all

[@wowitsportal5225]

19:35 yeah hawkeye is legit terrible, he was no where near as broken as people said he was last season. right now hes a sniper that doesnt function at long range, gets out dueled at mid range and is trash at close range, he has a bottom 3 dps ult his shift is usless for how long of a cooldown it has, he has no mobility and his e is just bad. a bottom 5 dps character

[@GlubySnotGlubbiest]

I have 100+ hours on Hawk. Hes not bad at all, certainly not a bottom 5 dps character. I do agree that the nerfs were unnecessary. The range reduction was what really makes him feel different to play. I sincerely hope they give him his kit back. He’s just not as fun anymore

[@wowitsportal5225]

@@GlubySnotGlubbiest i mean hes bottom 5 by virtue of basically every other dps being better than him leaving him in the bottom 5

[@GlubySnotGlubbiest]

@ where in the world are you getting that information from?

[@wowitsportal5225]

@ my own and others games the character also currently has the second lowest win rate in competitive

[@LordVader66]

Once thing you and everyone else doesn’t seem to understand about the win rates, is that the win rates also factors the mirror matches. Meaning for example CnD. Has a high pick rate and is usually in every team but only one of the CnD will win so her win rate is lower than it really should be or actually is. This is applicable for every characters win rate btw.

[@asahenry7428]

I’m already subscribed, you make great guides! I’d like to see a guide comparing every healers healing abilities and healing potential

[@sleezyclips8068]

I think peni is actually really good, but it’s not just about spamming net stuns. The big difference is placing your nets well and stacking mines to get picks. Even in top elo, it works really well if you have them placed correctly. You can also use them to stop support ults if you can predict when they’ll be used.

[@YeahImAjay]

I love how every youtuber has 10% not subscribed with the same screenshot

[@GodWorksOut]

Usually it’s 80-20 rule. Roughly 80% not subscribed.

[@alexdavis2674]

Would love to see the win rate charts in the videos. Went to rivals tracker it’s not hard it just would be a little quality of life boost imo

[@kyavenz]

Remember this Groot , Thor , Storm , Black Widow , Rocket Raccoon Mantis I’m seeing a vision

[@GodWorksOut]

Pros will never play that, but it can work

[@JakeReehl]

What about them?

[@Amphvptere]

Any team comp can be made to work up until ~celestial or eternity if you understand why you’re using it Have storm and black widow play at a height so that your own teams’ groot walls aren’t obscuring enemies Rocket needs to be able to get the heals out when Thor gets cut off but it’s fine cause his bounce and anyone that understands the bounces can handle it Mantis should be giving damage buffs to the main ults like Rocket’s or anyone falling behind the economy or to set up a combo There’s more to it in a team comp than just these suggestions but they’re meant to cover the comp’s weaknesses

[@QuiGonGucci]

Instead of bw give me bucky or punisher (im a rocket main)

[@sarkastikleader4708]

The only reason why I pick Cloak and Dagger is because I generally like them as a comic book fan. The fact that they’re even in this game from the beginning is a shock to me. Wolverine is my main though. He’s just a walking wood chipper if used right.

[@雷神2401]

Honestly, I think Luna Snow ult is worse than C&D ult. Cloaks last longer, and she can be a harder target provided the Cloak is good and has decent team support (magneto bubble, etc). Plus, she does damage and healing at the same time. I think luna performs better because of lower pick rate and better team up.

[@carvode7428]

CD can be countered by magneto ult. Luna cant. Luna can mix in some damage boost if needed so basically she does deal damage kinda. And luna’s neutral is just soo much better and scales well into high ranks because luna has highly accurate fast mechanically demanding heals. And she is not a joke in a 1v1 against a dps like cd

[@雷神2401]

@carvode7428 I like luna better as well, I'm just saying I think her ult is marginally worse. Magneto can kill luna snow in her ult

[@txheer5786]

Do you have or can you make a positioning video for divers?

[@OnlyTidus]

Rocket : stats don't lie Luna invis : here is why the stats are wrong 😂

[@theskorpian]

Cloak and Dagger are picked so much for exactly the reason you said immediately after: she isn't banned much, while the other healers are.

[@notexsity2468]

I have a great video idea you should talk about the slang in marvel rivals like what snowfalling means, poking, cds,diving, etc etc... feel like alot of people dont know these terms including myself it would help alot making these things more clear!

[@notexsity2468]

yes even the basic to the most difficult slang hopefully its video worthy

[@MrJesseslypig]

This feels like a really stupid question, but I can't figure out how to msg players thru the xbox interface, as in trying to establish communication to set up a team. I'll find players that I synergize well with but cannot figure out how to msg them.

[@casheverett6300]

Magik has high winrate because she is a mix between Brawl and dive. She can get that early pick on supports or squishy heros while also being able to apply HEAVY pressure to tanks. She is absolutely what carried me to GM because of the ability to completely switch her role and fit into any team comp thats not poke. She is a little more on the technical side where if your not in range she can get punished hard because of low sustain at range that allows her to brawl. She mostly benefits from old OW players playing her because of the intuitive ability to manage abilities.

[@jaysinart]

I’ll subscribe, can you make a guide for those who have mid aim but wish to rank up? I can do great as a dps but not like some people dropping 50 bombs every game

[@torbinbornhammer2180]

It's wild. After looking at every kit when i got Rivals, I thought to myself, "Rocket, Cloak and Dagger, and Namor, fit my playstyle." Nice.

[@Amphvptere]

Another thing with rocket having such a high win rate is the kit is meant to keep constant heals that instantly reacts to damage and reduces burst deaths. This can be done with other heroes but not many players have gotten the hang of recognizing who is taking the most damage at a time (who is taking damage at the highest rate)

[@DrezziiiTV]

I think the issue with cloak and dagger is too many of them are focused on using cloak to do damage instead of using dagger to get heals and damage. Literally the only reason to use cloak is if you need to shield your team from an ult or if you’re getting ganked

[@Dr_Clean_911]

can u do a tank guide like what are u suposed to do if u play tank bc i wanna know how to play tank bc i am dps main but in ranked we never have tanks so i wanna know how to play proper tank if possible about hulk or strange a guide or what u think is the best tank thanks

[@Burenyuu-b5v]

is mag really a good "counter" to cloak and dagger when they have had 3 ults by the time mag has built one to use on her?

[@JH-vb1wo]

I’ve had some really good rockets on my team that does a really great job but the kills and damage will be lack luster but if that raccoon can really play support it can mean a lot to the team

[@Shinx510]

My theory for why moon knight is so popular: - He has a low skill floor mechanically - His LC hits multiple enemies, causing you to damage farm/ult farm constantly - Because he's really easy mechanically and he easily generates high damage number, he gets high kills (but low last hits) - He's the easiest DPS to farm MVPs on. Everyone who picks him up thinks they're good with him because they almost always end up with insane stats by just aimlessly shooting at grouped up enemies and his ult is bugged to do double dmg so it almost always gets kills + it charges super fast. Basically Moon Knight tricks everyone into thinking they're better than they actually are

[@Memosiss]

Yo please don't just heal bot as rocket, a single ball stays on a person for 5 seconds and any others just fly past em to the next person, you can take these seconds to build ultimate and pressure through your minigun rather than holding a single button all game 🎉

[@kylesawkon4074]

That’s how you stack ur heals tho on a tank the slow one stays on him and you keep hitting him with the fast ones. You can pocket heal with him if you do it right, gotta bounce them orbs

[@ForeverHighGaming]

You can bounce the orbs so they hit multiple people multiple times so even if they don't slow down it'll stack the heals that are constantly bouncing back and forth. Rockets the best heal botter but only if you understand geometry and angles

[@bam-the-man2396]

Yes please make a storm guide! I’ve been maining her with about 12 hours on her and she’s definitely brought my game to the next level. An advanced guide will be great.

[@diddydisciple123]

storm is so broken but is also literally the most boring character in the game

[@SlyElf]

Suprised you didn't take a look at the team composition statistics. I would've loved to have known your thoughts.

[@JezebelIsHongry]

my wr with storm went through the roof when i bound her flight tech to my mouse for me it made it easier to play ground storm and make micro adjustments with her elevation around hard cover (also to adjust different head glitches)

[@yOOjisinthefrig]

How do they calculate the statistics? Did the hero have to be played the majority of the match or just picked at some point?

[@asumapepperoni4092]

First time watching a video of yours but I will say i like your approach to getting subscribers

[@GealRaya]

nobody is complaining about rocket in my gm games, he gives passive healing to the whole team not just the tanks and he has a free revive every 45 seconds, he doesn't feel underpowered at all besides not having a defensive ult which is the only reason I would ask a rocket to switch.

[@odd02]

That's the main and possibly only reason I'll ask them to switch. That or we need abit more burst healing.

[@kylesawkon4074]

@@GealRaya he feels op with the buff he got, plus his damage boost stacks with other damage boosts

[@kylesawkon4074]

@@odd02 switch? Luna and dagger even sue get banned like every game. Maybe mantis ig but idk I do pretty well with rocket his survivability clutches a lot of games especially payload defense

[@GealRaya]

@@kylesawkon4074 never are all defensive ults banned

[@ItsTheRedKirby]

I know a lot of people devalue Rocket purely because his ult isn't a broken defensive ult but it's an enabling offensive ult. Rocket Ult buffing a Punisher Ult shreds through every defensive ult that isn't a C&D layering the ult over one spot and if they haven't gotten all their dashes in they'll die before that. Besides that a well placed B.R.B turns a 6v6 into a 7v6 at times. I'm not surprised by the upswing of Peni, people were stuck thinking there was only one way to play her without seeing what the more aggressive Peni players do. We're seeing players like Cringe and Premo hit some insane mine line ups from halfway across the map like CoD tomahawks/throwing knives, take unique flanking approaches and placing nests behind enemy teams and other impressive plays. People are learning and leveling up.

[@double5646]

the fact that people still cry about Hawkeye and say he is easy is wild, he basically got no team up and takes too much efforts to win the game compare to other hero

[@commandoghost5883]

Not gonna lie I thought I was the only one who thought that Hawkeye s1 is a little mediocre he’s good but not like ss tier broken it’s still is wild how people are still complaining about him well they ignore other aspects that are broken in the game

[@coolguy2058]

The only people who say Hawkeye is "busted" and requires "no skill" are the squishes who are occasionally one the receiving end of a 1/16 head shot from Hawkeye. I get it's annoying to get one shot with a m1 but it makes no sense to let that blur your view and avoid looking at a character from an objective point of view, try actually playing a character yourself before evaluating it

[@mrfamousamos9819]

People finally found out that they can jump and move around and just dive at him and make it impossible for him to get enough 1 taps in to be that disruptive. They were just way to quick to complain rather then come up with a solution, hella on the other hand was a problem

[@coolguy2058]

@@mrfamousamos9819 it's much less of people "learning to dive him" and more of him becoming massively easier to dive. Even in season 0 you could tell from looking at his kit, if you got into a close range confrontation, your ability set is built to pretty much guarantee your cooked, not that it matters though since in season 0 you could shoot 20 fully charged arrows at rapid speed all the way from the safety of madagascar. But now with the range nerf and charge speed nerf, not only can you shoot at a shoot at a slower rate with less damage you have to actively get within mid range of all your opponents to activate your charge passive, that alone puts you at the mercy of any divers on the enemy team and half decent shooters considering you receive a massive movement speed reduction when your aiming a shot. But I still stand to reason him just being a worst character isn't the only reason for him doing so bad, it's people not knowing how to play him, despite the blatant range nerf suggesting otherwise, people are still playing him as a sniper in the backlines, the moment a character with decent movement notices you, a 40m distance isn't gonna save you, this season Hawkeye is built to play more as a flanker who can get a few picks before changing positioning or provide support with burning down a tanks hp, he's considerably harder to play but he still has the potential to be a viable character if people utalized him right, though if he loses 15% of his damage from the seasonal boost ending, I can't give you any reason to play him, he'd be a blatantly unviable character but I'm sure the dev team knows that much and would probably permanently integrate hawkeyes damage to stay as it currently is.

[@Gmackk]

Whenever storms on my team it honestly feels like an instant dub. Like I never lose when I have a good storm player. I feel like storm, squirrel girl, magic an namor are kinda owning all dps currently

[@LordVader66]

Once thing you and everyone else doesn’t seem to understand about the win rates, is that the win rates also factors the mirror matches. Meaning for example CnD. Has a high pick rate and is usually in every team but only one of the CnD will win so her win rate is lower than it really should be or actually is. This is applicable for every characters win rate btw. Also a lot of people still think Storm sucks but have never tried playing her or still don’t know how to play her properly. The small group or percentage of people who have been Lord Storm or maiming/ one tricking her knew she was great since the game came out the buffs just made us s0 Lord Storms more of a menace

[@TheJay1979]

Do you think part of Invisible Woman's lower win rate is that she's a new character and people play her, without fully understanding the optimal way to use her?

[@jingledell1]

I feel like the Groot/Rocket win rat has more to do with the fact that they're both really great picks on their own than it does their synergy.

[@BigMackWitSauce]

Pretty new to the game, but I've gone from bronze to Gold 2 rn playing mostly Mantis and winning 75% of games. I love her

[@elalacran00]

That red Hawkeye in the thumbnail actually looks pretty good

[@JoshThompson25]

One thing people forget about rocket is he can heal from any range and neal multiple people. When you know how to position and mix in some dps he is top notch.

[@goatmeal5241]

I wish the teamup stats didn't require all three members to count. Luna snow + Namor is probably really common (and powerful) but the stat seems to require Jeff as well, which makes the stat basically meaningless due to sample size.

[@new_zzzombie]

I don’t fully understand synergies. If it’s a 3 character synergy. Do we need all 3 to get boosts? Or just the first 1 plus any 1 of other 2? If anyone can answer thx

[@MitchSos]

Storm, and hulk got banned almost every match in d1 and GM3. C&D and magik or Logan also got banned often

[@xthexmopedx3642]

Grandmaster Cloak and Dagger main here. Here’s the deal, Cloak is an easy mechanical strategist but people are playing her/him all wrong. A word of advice: Stop sacrificing yourself to heal your teammates, stop using your bubble on anyone but yourself and your other healers, and use your damage at least 30% of the time. In my matches, 80% of the time I have the top healing by 10k AND the highest dmg output by any of the other healers. 95% of the time, I have the most healing. Your main focus as a healer of any kind, but especially as Cloak, is to stay alive. You should have the lowest deaths in the lobby, unless there’s a rocket in the game, because you can literally single-handedly carry fights where you are down a hero if you use your cloak ability to slip away from a dive, use your bubble to survive dmg, and blind attackers targeting you. Use your whole kit (in the appropriate situations) and live, at all costs; I swear to you if you do this, you will climb as Cloak and you’ll get that positive win-rate. Also important: like with most heroes, you should either specialize in Cloak or choose a character that’s easier I.e. rocket. Cloak seems easy, but if you’re dying consistently or dying first in fights, then you need to swap. This hero needs you to specialize, not flex to her/him. Mantis is 100% guaranteed healing with crazy dmg output (far more like a dps for you flexing dps mains) and Rocket has the easiest healing mechanic and a free life for a teammate. If you’re flexing, flex to these heroes, not cloak. Hope this helps! Love this community and love the content! Eye-opening stats and inpu 🎉

[@carvode7428]

Amplifier feels like a wet noodle. It never really forces any ults, its more like “eh, they have amp, we might wanna stop pressing w…. nvm we cloaked in and can get all the space we want”. Rocket is just a good 3rd support and absolutely not a replacement for luna or cloak

[@asianrollzz648]

I think biggest meta, what seemed to help me is go on quick play and play with other characters, im support main. I started to play in QP, with some vanguards and after some dps. I can flex play vanguard and support now, but just playing these on QP helped me understand better on team composition, and how my team and enemy team would kinda move around the map, which helps me as support so i can be aware and support better, rather than mindless heals

[@Ryker9]

People need to realize that “High Winrate” doesn’t mean shit if the pick rate is low The higher the pick rate goes the lower the winrate will be, and vice-versa (storm) Most of the stats don’t tell you anything except for extreme ones like: Very low pick rate + very low winrate = probably unviable and need buffs (Widow) Highest pick rate + Highest winrate = yeah this is broken It also varies from rank to rank Source: I studied a statistics course that one time in college

[@jasco.gaming]

Gonna need a Doctor Strange guide with good portal techniques and locations and then I'll hit that sub ;)

[@actsapologist1991]

The other thing Rocket has: His healing has no range, can easily bounce around corners, and heals groups.

[@Alex-ks3uu]

I’m so tired of trying to explain to people on Reddit why Rocket is good, actually. People just SERIOUSLY struggle to look at strategists in a contextual way. They want to just look at them 1-to-1, and often comparing individual ults instead of entire kits. And THEN they struggle to conceptualize the playmaking capacity of strategists beyond healing. Part of this is that Luna’s ult DOES have a pretty incredible use case for its most impactful possible use - completely contesting overtime. Which CAN be the difference between a win and a loss. But that’s one possible way it plays out. And it requires you to have an ult at overtime. Which you only guarantee by being super precious with it, and passing up other potential gamemaking plays just in case. Because there’s also a lot of game played outside of ult usage. Having a WEAK ult is a big problem. I mean, Cap’s is probably rarely helping decide a match. But having one that is powerful in a different way is still a powerful, play-making, and potentially game-defining ult. Plus, Rocket’s ult doesn’t lock him down at all. He’s still healing, shredding, rezzing, etc. Because, oh right, he has a 45 second rez. That thing that makes the Hela and Adam Warlock synergies so powerful? Yeah.

[@AnArmyOfFish]

Characters who have a high pick-rate (Cloak & Dagger in your first example) can have a relatively low win-rate not due to skill but due to the fact that if both teams have the character, one has to lose in order to resolve the match So your comparisons about Luna, Invisible Woman, and Cloak all having an average below 50% makes sense - they're played so often that there's typically one on both teams - the heroes you see mirrored (one on both teams) the most often will also have very low winrates Characters that are below the average of the known pick-rates can be seen as unaffected by this effect, but the higher up the pick-rate you get, the more likely of a mirror, which means more likely that the win rate will be somewhat skewed

[@Erakay9533]

Surprised to see Moon Knight struggle against high dive DPS on average. I’ve always found myself able to outburst them when I have an Ankh, and run away when I don’t

[@lysave1238]

I main support. Currently in diamond and climbing. Cloak and dagger’s winrate is low because it is highly unusual to not have a mirror comp. If luna is banned and enemy does not mirror c and d the ult can be very oppressive for taking space, so many people force pick her. Which evens out her winrate. She also suffers from mercy syndrome with many players ignoring her utility to farm heals and press Q. I think she is incredible for punishing brawl/dive and with cycled cooldowns I have tempo-ed fights with her that should have been lost. I have also fought many fights longer than rockets brb cooldown, which can allow for late fight 2nd support rezzes which are also oppressive if done correctly. Loki plays amazingly with triple support, i think as players skill up he will become the carry/S tier pick. Other supports are fairly unremarkable, luna isnt as strong anymore but her ult is kinda annoying. Sue is a major wolverine counter and usually the only time I play her is vs wolverine, she can also be ok vs iron man, just really depends on ur skill with the CC. Mantis is struggling atm, but is the most survivable vs BP and fist if you can land sleeps. Adam amd jeff are very niche for me tbh, i think if played correctly adam can be amazing but needs the team to play around soul bond and rez. Jeff is jeff

[@ailuvgaming]

gud stats nice vid id like to see separated stats of console and pc next time around if possible

[@Tikimohn]

Hawkeye has a more specific role now. He's really good at chunking health out of tanks.

[@AllettoX]

Now, it could just be because I started comp. However, I mainly play Rocket. With a few backups in each role to fill. So far though, it has been 100% rocket pick and from the 14 games played, I've obtained 13 wins. Just reached gold on the 14th game 😅, I'm not expecting that streak to keep going though hahaha. We'll see, but I love Rockets kit with a lot of team setups.