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Timestamps:
00:00:30 - Alec Baldwin Shooting
00:18:37 - Bespoke Post Ad
00:19:58 - More Alec Baldwin
00:26:37 - Ruby Rose
00:32:54 - MeUndies Ad
00:35:30 - Bad Sets
00:39:30 - Busch Gardens Deaths
00:46:26 - Kraken Ad
00:47:54 - Theme Park Accidents
00:55:20 - Blue Light Skin Care Scam
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Jackson: / zealotonpc
Andrew: / huggbeestv
Charlie: / moistcr1tikal
Kaya: / kayaorsan
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[@ignatio2044]

Whether it was Valkyrae's intention to scam people or not, it was pretty scummy of her to "call out" her friends who did not support her product and read private dms on stream.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

Charlie is probably scared of her lol

[@JediMasterBaiter]

@@Bucky12g Because he's a victim, too! He got scammed into signing Raid Shadow Legends.

[@blacksalami3892]

@@Bucky12g him comparing the situation to the podcast getting sponsored by Robinhood before the platform shit the bed was a little frustrating to hear. Putting his co-hosts down to defend her.

[@busybronco322]

@@blacksalami3892 Fr, when the situations are somewhat alike I can see why he defended her but when ur own co hosts got scammed by the same people and u try to down play it definitely hurts to watch. Plus she keeps supporting the product when they shot down Robinhood once they found out what was going on.

[@gemubebop3777]

Timestamp please?

[@BushAustralian]

The Alec Baldwin tragedy actually sounds like the ending of a hitman mission

[@masterferguson8703]

It is.

[@jimpson117]

Lmao 5 bots in an hour

[@floatingdisembodiedhead8975]

20 V bucks says this will be referenced heavily in the next series.

[@lilstinker5475]

Remember to do your part and report these bots

[@happyscientist7939]

Good work 47 now head for an exit

[@haynelim3496]

I primarily remember Alec Baldwin as one of the narrators for Thomas the Tank Engine growing up and hearing this story in 2021 is crazy

[@fowldz]

Nah cat and the hat

[@joek1549]

*Thomas had enough of his shenanigans*

[@floatingdisembodiedhead8975]

I remember him the most as the douchebag boss in Jim Carrey's Dick & Jane 🤣 underrated movie

[@awesomebacon1075]

He was also in the Thomas the Tank Engine movie.

[@The_Devil_Himself]

It's been a trip to see all the people who remember Mr. Conductor.

[@bobblaster9097]

“I wonder how it must feel to wrongfully kill someone”-Alec Baldwin

[@ArMentorLazada]

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[@secrethate]

@OPEN PAGE,,,,, 👇🤗 stfu

[@secrethate]

@@ArMentorLazada Pablo go away

[@poppaganja3793]

@@secrethate kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6bQen6hjtSFl6M

[@secrethate]

@@poppaganja3793 gonna flip out if another fucking bot replies to me 😍

[@drinkswatere]

The difference between Charlie getting scammed at the carnival vs. Valkyrie is that Charlie didn’t promote the scam to his entire audience

[@muffinboi4134]

Charlie also admits that he was stupid for falling for it yet wont say Rae is for falling for a scam.

[@moisesmartinezmorales5885]

And then 3 months later another person did the same thiz as valkyrie and nothing happened to said person

[@e0z048]

@@moisesmartinezmorales5885 I’m Is go get to the

[@WaywardVector]

I don’t often find something I disagree with Charlie on, but victimizing Valkyrae is one of them. She went on stream to read the names of people who comforted her, blatantly telling her rabid fans “don’t attack these people, anyone else who talks about Rflect is free game.” She then antagonized everyone who wasn’t a yes man, and aimed her fans like a gun. Her sticking by the company shows she isn’t being used, she’s actively promoting the BS despite backlash. She’s now joined the side of the scammers in attempting to sell a bogus product. Like someone getting scammed by an Indian call center then saying “hey, I like what you’re doing here. Involve me in the operation!” It’s understandable why Charlie needs to defend her in public, people are getting attacked by her stans just for just having a neutral stance. And Charlie is a non-confrontational person, who is acquainted with her, and thus her stans. TLDR, she isn’t the victim in this situation. The people who order this bogus product are.

[@Apurbo_]

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[@Sh1roNekoshi]

Money gets to people... Once that happens it's too late in a way. Not saying that's what happened, but if it gets to their head they only see money. Their fans become boardgame pieces they can move around as they please, and if they can't they get the banhammer.

[@Sh1roNekoshi]

@@GlitterMarcy Skincare protecting against light... Blue light. Sure, another kind of sun screen* 😭 I'd rather protect my eyes with the glasses that I know will reduce the blue light along with screen filters for it. Maybe it causes cancer? Idk. A lotion for it just sounds stupid

[@Sh1roNekoshi]

@@GlitterMarcy I mean, if it did cause skin damage I'd have been a raw meatball by now xD Like sure let's protect my precious hands and feet from blue light! Very moisturizing!

[@Thunterise]

She isn't the victim for sure. She got herself in this situation. But I definitely believe that she just made a series of complete fuck ups, but never actually meant to scam anyone. She's gullible and emotional, but she doesn't seem intentionally malicious. People on the internet can think a lot of things about her, but I don't pretend to know her better than other streamers and youtubers who actually know her. Everyone who actually knows her (like Charlie) say the same thing: She's gullible, not malicious. Being a random internet commenter pretending to know better than Charlie on this seems silly to me.

[@Camicalco]

It’s quite a strange sight seeing Charlie go above and beyond to make excuses and ‘reasonings’ for Rae.. When if it was anyone else that he doesn’t have a connection to, he would have made a video and chewed them out about it. Hopefully he comes to terms and comprehends the actual situation instead of having rose tinted glasses

[@mikkelstrumer8628]

They did play among us together

[@ss9392]

Yeah i said the same, im used to him calling out scammers its weird to see him defending them so hard and sweaty lol

[@groovyllicious]

idk Charlies just saying she is an idiot being fooled instead of maliciously knowing its a scam.

[@phabiorules]

@@groovyllicious He went through some lengths to defend her. When they brought up the fact that she still is telling people to support the product, Charlie said that "just shows how much she believed them" which if she still believed in the product, why would she have any problems with the ccompany? The reason people are angry is because they pushed out a product that lied which if you believed in the product, why would you get angry at rhe company? He then also said that it wasn't "that bad" compared to other things people have done as far as scamming goes, which seemed more like a back up argument. I like Charlie, but I think in his mind he tried to play it neutral, but the more points they brought up, it turned into him defending her.

[@wenbluepirate3954]

@@groovyllicious no, because Jackson said it. Either she is an idiot or she is shady, but he didn’t want her to fall in any. I say idiotically shady.

[@WaywardVector]

Charlie using unrelated anecdotal evidence to corroborate his valkyrae argument is really reaching at straws here. Especially when Andrew takes a neutral stance and Charlie tries to push it towards one side.

[@Apurbo_]

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[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

Charlie just wants to be part of the cool kids group

[@poweroftruth9258]

The Bible says in John 3:16-36 that whoever believes in the Lord Jesus Christ shall not perish but have everlasting life, the Bible also says in Romans 10:9 that those who declare with their mouth that Jesus Christ is their God, Lord, and Savior they shall be saved. Revelation 1:8 says that Jesus is the alpha and the omega. Luke and revelation is the ending times, and Jesus is returning back. So are you going to submit your life to him or no? Narrow is the path that leads to the gates of heaven, but only few people find it. The gates that is the path to destruction is where many people find it! Jesus loves you SO MUCH! That he died on the cross, and was resurrected from the dead 3 days later to give us eternal life..’zznz

[@nikitavindigs1974]

@@poweroftruth9258 not real

[@Krranski]

Yea that was weird to me too. And he kept trying to liken it to even other things, such as how they used to promote Robinhood. I get that analogies all break down at some point, but these didn't really even work and made his position look quite thin. Even still, I can't decide which way to lean without knowing more.

[@MisanthropicHaze]

Nah Kay is in the right on this one. If you have a gun idc about the context, you double check whether its loaded or not before you point it at someone else. Every. Single. Time.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

You don't point a gun at people period

[@MisanthropicHaze]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 I'm not talking about voluntarily pointing it at someone, Im talking about being in a situation where it could be pointed at someone.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@treeofrage7622 Bruh you do understand that films and shows position the camera to LOOK like it's aimed at someone, right? They don't actually do it LMAO

[@bigbig173]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 but he didn't point the gun at anyone

[@El_Monsoon]

Responsibility for firearms ends at the grip. If you're holding it you're responsible. Definitely agree bro. It's good to see someone here has an idea

[@red_seamus8119]

I can imagine a kid asking his dad why they have free life time passes and he tells him his sister got decapitated on the teacups

[@liquidzuel2321]

Alec Baldwin still swears that he was told it was a cold teacup.

[@Phillipmamowfwifharts]

@@liquidzuel2321 either way it’s a cold sister.

[@brickabang]

*Few years earlier* “I’m sorry little one” “A small price to pay for free tickets”

[@rodolfolopez6240]

First time ive ever seen Charlie really reach for straws with his argument.

[@ochitakishi2350]

Dick ridding scammers does that to your brain.

[@sagemodejay5376]

Oh get used to it it’s not that rare

[@limesovalemons1483]

I kinda disagree

[@shaunlevin5081]

I can actually picture this as a Hitman mission. You sneak into the set and then you load the gun with a bullet. Then Alec Baldwin shoots your target.

[@cokedripp]

Fr when i first heard of this situation the first thing i thought of was agent 47

[@mjackson8481]

Theres a mission in hitman blood money called curtians down where you can kill the target with a prop gun

[@doof2890]

can we pls stop making light of this awful situation, some girl died that day

[@shaunlevin5081]

@@doof2890 why? A lot of jokes are about tragedies and people getting killed. Do we have to wait and if so how long before we can make jokes like this? No one is denying that this a horrible tragedy and making jokes doesn't mean that we don't see what those parasites in Hollywood did as okay.

[@doof2890]

@@shaunlevin5081 its just that, this is something that just happened and instead of respecting that some innocent young people died, people are already just memeing it up and taking any gravity out of the situation

[@soupbane1688]

"Sea World has a budgeted 9 deaths a year." That is the most capitalist dystopia shit I have ever heard of.

[@strawhatluffy7209]

The whole actuarial profession is dystopian

[@zz7733]

I bet all amusement parks do. I didn't even know Sea World had rides until now. I assumed they were talking about animal-related deaths at first.

[@Subxenox15]

Well there are some dumb ass people in the world that like to get drunk and swim with KILLER whales, it's only practical.

[@ABR48YT]

“Imagine What it feels like to wrongly kill someone” A quote from him from 2018 How did that work out

[@ArMentorLazada]

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[@the_bruh4321]

Bunch of bots

[@cohensmith6100]

Rip

[@scratchedaviators1254]

Holy man Charlie, just take the middle ground on this. I’m glad to see the boys aren’t letting Charlie get off Scott free with how much white knighting he’s doing.

[@yuma_da_puma]

Actually in the Twilight zone, 2 people were decapitated not 3. The 3rd person unfortunately did die but she was crushed by that helicopter. Regardless, it's terrible....

[@ManOfPillowDoom]

That's still pretty bad tho lol

[@weirdautumn]

Ah, only two were decapitated. Phew, it's okay then

[@yuma_da_puma]

@@weirdautumn when did I type that it was okay? Using your logic, you're the one saying it's okay....

[@gaymansupreme]

All three were decapitated, watch the footage.

[@ManOfPillowDoom]

@@gaymansupreme no only 2 were the girl (the one they're dragging) got crushed by the helicopter. Do your research

[@sageisnotaplant99]

I’ve been bed ridden with a back injury for the last few days and getting the notification for this boosted my mood 1000%

[@ArMentorLazada]

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[@ryangargaro15]

Feel better asap!

[@sageisnotaplant99]

@@ryangargaro15 thank you!

[@sandenson]

I hope you get better soon

[@sageisnotaplant99]

@@sandenson thank you! I really appreciate it

[@oneforty1623]

I thought he was a guest somehow for like 5 seconds then I remembered

[@ArMentorLazada]

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[@evilbeanicus1861]

Same

[@thequincy_]

It is hilarious how Kaya blatantly calls out the Valkyrae "Skin Care" scam for what it is. Friend or not, there is no reason you should be defending someone to the degree that. It just comes across as disingenuous. In situations like these, I can almost guarantee Valkyrae known what the hell she was getting into. And if for whatever reason she didn't, then her ignorance should make her pay the price. The same can be said for any fool who purchases such a product as well.

[@sineowl443]

kaya ain't about that bullshit

[@dontmatter4804]

Yeah, but also it happens all the time that streamers and youtubers get scammed into endorsing shady shit or signing shit contracts. These are people who play video games for a living and make millions off of it. Its far more likely that a brand took advantage of her, its not like she was desperate for money.

[@mattk6272]

I dunno I'm not a big fan but just from watching every now and then she seems just like the type that this could happen to. Naive and trusting... Surprised her friends didn't even see thru the bullshit tho, since she must have told them about this multi million dollar thing she was getting into...

[@gooeyboy706]

I agree

[@WaywardVector]

@@dontmatter4804 yeah until she began pointing fingers and aiming her audience like a gun at anyone who didn’t defend her.

[@dee6561]

The RFLCT talk...Charlie clearly paints Rae in a more innocent picture, while Kaya, Andrew, and Jackson take a more cautious view---if not straight suspicion. I'll chalk it up to Charlie having played games with Rae (who probably considers Charlie a friend and vice versa). It is an interesting position to have someone you know more personally than the others be under fire; it is that contrast that is quite apparent here.

[@ArMentorLazada]

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[@Danamous]

True

[@5days61]

Nice analysis Mr. Aspergers

[@DoBap_]

Bottom line is: if you want to make skincare products aimed at gamers, just make sure its full of vitamin D.

[@tbhidk-y2p]

@NickyNomads she’s not gunna fall for you bro

[@ss9392]

When stevewilldoit scams other people Charlie is like 'he cant even read, so dumb haha' and when his friends do it he tries to keep other people from talking about it. Now i dont expect him to be a crusader of justice but dont be hypocritical.

[@ss9392]

@Hadrim Losthor yeah i agree, its just a little annoying, because im usually used to see charlie calling out scams, but i get it i guess

[@mikkelstrumer8628]

@Hadrim Losthor wonder what DMs Charlie sent her....

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@Hadrim Losthor Maybe he should keep his mouth shut when other people do it then?

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@Hadrim Losthor It just ruins his credibility

[@bigtheorymusic]

I can't believe basic gun safety is a cold take...

[@ExperiMentalDon]

Careful saying "cold." Clearly it means fucking nothing now.

[@clintjanes3784]

Kaya had the right take. I'm a gun owner and I take that very seriously, it's everyone's responsibility but most importantly it's on the person handling the gun regardless of whether you think it's loaded with blanks or not.

[@ulfhedinn79]

Yeah, it's honestly something that everyone should be taught. Sure, it isn't technically Baldwin's job to check the gun, but it's common fuckin sense anyone with half a brain knows that.

[@zadamany9255]

Agreed. You can’t pay somebody else to do TAB+1 for you…

[@sizzlingwall716]

@@clintjanes3784 have you ever seen a hostage scene, the set is not a place for the 4 rules ever apply lol people are so so dumb about this, just ask what are the rules on set if Alec was supposed to check show it because I have a lot stating that actors are told to not touch a fucking thing on them except the trigger if it’s a scene for it lol.

[@trancefulI]

Off topic but it sucks how inconsistent Jackson having his camera on is 😔

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

Yea he could at least put a little effort in

[@ninenemench9403]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 It’s hard being a podcaster and youtuber give him break. Imagine every day putting in the effort into researching 2 topics taken from Twitter and talking about it for about an half hour. Connecting a camera into a usb port is just to much to add to his plate.

[@user-NameName]

Streaming and podcasts are a plague to creativity and effort.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@ninenemench9403 True. The poor guy never gets a break from his difficult job.

[@BourdeoixEterno]

@@ninenemench9403 you’re sounding petty af, if he doesn’t want to show his face let him do live his life damn. Fans like you are the worst

[@AssHandler]

Charlie, this is your doctor. I'm leaving a comment here because you won't pick up the phone. Just leaving a message to inform you that your copium levels are off the charts. You need to stop your cope routine before it's too late.

[@lkjd3586]

I was his neighbor, and I could smell his copium all the way across the street. The stuff seeps into the walls and is hard to remove. He needs to stop it.

[@timer4164]

Yeah he's having a hard time reconciling that a nice friendly person can do immoral shit

[@animigo5669]

Totally agree with kaya, if youre handed a gun, you clear it, no matter WHAT. No matter if youre an actor or not, not an excuse at all

[@animigo5669]

@@HeyJinx Then they should be taught the literal first rule of firearm safety. Just because they are actors doesnt mean they should be willfully ignorant

[@camm3217]

⁠@@HeyJinxAs an actor while yes that is the case, it is not just the armorer’s but the whole cast and crew’s responsibility to double-check the prop

[@SK8GEEK1]

Damn, Charlie simping real hard for Rae

[@kamewoni]

And Alec Baldwin. He was feeling feisty this podcast

[@dontmatter4804]

To be fair, Rae seems pretty dumb when it comes to business. Its more likely that a brand took advantage of her to make a quick buck rather than her actively trying to scam people, especially when she makes like 7 figures off of contracts and sponsors.

[@gooeyboy706]

@@kamewoni 🤨🤡

[@mikkelstrumer8628]

@@dontmatter4804 yeah...that argument doesnt work. No one goes “no I dont need more money, I make enough.”

[@dontmatter4804]

@@mikkelstrumer8628 You've never met someone whose financially satisfied? That says more about yourself than anything. Plus if she wanted more money she would have just released shitty make up. The way RFLCT was set up as a scam put all the risk and no reward on her while the company got publicity and promotion they wanted. All im saying is that from what I've seen of Rae she isn't very bright (not meant as an insult, just that she stays in the lane of what she's good at and doesn't have a lot of real world experience). Young people are dumb man, especially when they're famous, not the first time a niave creator has been taken advantage of, and definitely not the last.

[@k9overlord]

a lot of people are at fault here, but it seems that instead of following the second rule of gun safety is something that alec was ignorant of regardless if the gun was supposed to be cold. Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot. the first rule would be always treat a gun as if it's loaded even if you know otherwise. This situation is a direct representation of why these rules are so paramount in gun safety.

[@juliab516]

Exactly at the end of the day, if you are holding a real firearm, no matter the context, you have to take the PERSONAL accountability to be safe with it. It sounds like he had no trigger discipline, and you should never rely on another person to tell you if a gun is unloaded. That kind of responsibility should be taken even MORE seriously in the context of a working condition that exhausts people and there had already been previous mishaps, otherwise the firearms just have no place being there whatsoever and they can sacrifice things not looking realistic on film. I believe Alec is just as responsible, (arguably more responsible because he was the last person who had that gun in his hands) because HE could have said “you know what, there’s been issues on this set before. We’re all tired, why risk taking a chance?” I don’t care if these actors don’t want to own guns personally, but if they are going to be handling real firearms in their line of work, they better take the personal responsibility to learn about the weapons they are holding. This entire situation is ridiculous.

[@k9overlord]

@@juliab516 exactly, theres still a lot of info that hasnt be let out, but everyone agrees that negligence obviously caused this horrible accident. Hopefully some regulation on gun safety in a production comes out of this. whether it be government, insurance clauses, or some other form of set procedure that everyone follows 100% of the time. What sucks is that this isnt the only time something like this has happened in other instances during movie production and that there isnt already something like a universal protocol when it comes to gun safety in a production.

[@creedolala6918]

Been debating this with others and it surprises me how much resistance there is to the idea that an actor could be responsible for gun safety. Like it's too complicated and difficult in the context of all the other things he's busy doing. Like only a master armorer with years of experience can figure out whether X gun is loaded or not. Other than the obvious, which is to never have live ammo on sets, I think a reasonable policy would be to have some sort of gun expert on set at all times, and this expert trains each actor in how to check the guns they'll be using. Once the actor confirms they understand, the gun is their responsibility, and they can't touch it until they confirm. Of course even after confirming, they can ask the expert again later if they're ever unsure. The idea that someone can handle a gun but not be responsible for it seems so strange to me. The fact that they have a job to do doesn't let them off the hook. Lots of jobs require driving but you still have to take classes in how to drive.

[@k9overlord]

@@creedolala6918 yeah i really dont get why everyone sees actors as people that are above learning rules of firearm safety. Just like you said, its not much if an ask to be safe with deadly equipment.

[@nikitavindigs1974]

@@k9overlord pretty sure it fired while he was pulling the gun out of his holster so not really his fault?

[@thelieutenant7732]

500 rounds of live ammo was also found on set... wouldn't they realize the price difference given how expensive ammo's getting now? Also seeing that they're filming a Western film with revolvers, I'm pretty sure Baldwin actually did accidentally quick draw the cinematographer and director.

[@YA-wr5wd]

the price of ammo is actually dropping back closer to pre covid numbers. it's still high, but nothing like summer 2020 levels

[@cheeseguy6238]

There is 0 chance the gun "just went off." He shot the DA and freaked out, but he definitely pulled the trigger. Guns aren't magic, they dont just fire themselves (unless it's a Taurus)

[@thelieutenant7732]

@@cheeseguy6238 Plus if it was a particularly faulty gun with worn out parts, wouldn't running around with it also cause the hammer to drop (if for some reason he had the gun cocked prior drawing) and set off a round in the holster? The fact that it only went off while he was holding it shows that he pulled the trigger or at the very least manipulated the hammer. Though my guess is that the hammer was already cocked or he somehow pulled back the hammer while holding down the trigger (maybe the hammer was caught on clothing or the holster?) because he'd definitely realize he was pulling the trigger if it was double action.

[@sebastianriz4703]

@@cheeseguy6238 replace "Taurus" with "Hipoint" and your comment is good 👍

[@whatdothlife7108]

@@cheeseguy6238 there were reports of multiple accidental discharges on set already before this.

[@mattguindon1190]

I want to know the story behind the name “hugbees”. Bees are great for the environment but if you try to hug one they will sting you. So the name is misleading and dangerous

[@notyours5780]

One of the main rules of gun safety is : Always treat a gun as if it's loaded

[@seereix8400]

I remember a mission in the old hitman games where you replace a prop gun with a real gun and basically the acteur kills the target. So, idont now, they should check if there was any baldman in the area.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

I think that was what they were referring to...

[@seereix8400]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 Yep That mission is still my favorite one in hitman blood money

[@kingdomkey2262]

So is Alec going to be shot by a guy pretending to be a cop soon?

[@masterpackman]

I think I remember something on MythBusters about: Occasionally you have to fire live rounds or there's a powder build up and the "prop" gun will jam up. Could be misremembering

[@dannymorales5549]

Still. They said that on that same day they tested the guns and there where 3 live bullets when they tested it.

[@masterpackman]

@@joshroehl6098 feel like I'm about to get rickrolled

[@Noobish_Camper55]

You are referencing "The Crow" where a barrel obstruction killed an actor.

[@dpchief_216]

Eh, sort of. Usually when firearms are modified to become film props (which in this case they CLEARLY weren't), it becomes damaging to fire live rounds. Basically they drill tap the barrel so specialized "plugs" can be threaded in, with different pin hole sizes to tune the gasses retained, so the gun can cycle properly. If you see footage of military training with blanks, you can see the large orange device that is attached to the front of the weapon that serves this same purpose, whilst being a visual indicator that the weapon is set up for training. While yes, blanks are dirtier and leave significantly more carbon buildup, they tend to just clean it at the end of the day. The last thing they would want is to convert it back to being capable of firing live rounds and forgetting to convert it back. Professionals in this field take EVERY precaution, unlike the dumb bitch that Baldwin hired.

[@Christian762]

@@dpchief_216 This is only for guns that are semi/full auto. Revolvers, bolt actions, lever guns, etc, basically any gun you'd find in an old west movie don't require tapping or any other modification really to fire blanks. This is why in many cases revolvers are used on film vs semi-autos, why starter pistols are revolvers not semis, etc.

[@Nicolas-dl6fz]

Alec Baldwin was a Producer on this movie so if the whole set is a mess I think he should take some responsibility especially for hiring inexperienced people.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

And the fact that his gun was aimed at people

[@mcgee6177]

Just because he was a producer doesn't mean he was the the producing the movie. When a small time movie company makes a movie, if they have a big time actor they will bring them on as a "producer" to give that actor creative freedom but at the end of of the day he is not the person in charge and he's not the the person who is hiring and firing actors and staff members. That being said he would have a lot leverage in getting what he wants being who he is and if he noticed unsafe practices he could be liable in civil court. But criminally speaking, he isn't the one liable. He was told by the director to rehearse pulling out his gun and pointing it at the camera. Let me say that again the director told him to point his gun in their direction. Everyone thought the gun was cold and they were not giving enough safety instructions by the armourer. At the end of the day it's the armourer / prop masters responsibly to not only make sure the guns are safe but also make sure actors are following the safety procedures they put in place.

[@mcgee6177]

@Pepper Pog yes liable in civil court not legally. Even with all the deaths that happen on movie sets I don't think a producer has ever been charged criminally. And like I said he really a producer by name only he's not the one actually producing the movie.

[@mcgee6177]

@Pepper Pog I mean even if that isn't true I still agree with you that he does have some liability. Even though he can be sued it would probably be a lot easier to sue the production company. But I'm sure Baldwin himself or the production company will try and give the family a settlement before they even take it to civil court.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@Pepper Pog Spread out over 6 years...

[@hajsh67]

To anyone who thinks Alec Baldwin is not to blame at all (I disagree), I won't argue with you here but I just have one single request. Please learn the fundamental rules of firearm safety. Even if you don't own a gun or plan on using one, you may come across one in the future by chance. Know how to safely handle a firearm and to clear the weapon. It could save someone's life. A good video is by Warrior Poet Society called "Universal Firearm Safety Rules". It's like 10 minutes long.

[@someoneelse361]

It's the prop manager's job to ensure that it's safe, not Baldwin's

[@hollowpointgaming6097]

@@someoneelse361 your dumb anytime you handle a firearm then it becomes your responsibility to be safe around other people with it you should always check if it’s loaded and keep it in a safe direction

[@TheRainmustFall7]

I didn’t like Charlie’s argument, whether he is right or not, he was clearly biased. And tbh i find it difficult to believe him after he mistakenly dragged projared’s name when it was proven later that the accusations against him were false

[@magnumopus788]

Good point

[@DazHotep6EQUJ5]

I can appreciate that Alec Baldwin is dressed as hitman for the thumbnail.

[@deadricdeath265]

Omg an episode of the podcast where Charlie actually talks and seems genuinely interested

[@gooeyboy706]

Yeah lol. He's slightly less dead inside this time.

[@xbmpr]

He’s a genius. Tells his friends he wants to make a podcast and then barely talks in them lol

[@out_of_orbit1968]

But i think he was very biased on the reflect makeup scam.

[@stanleyhercules]

is this podcast good?

[@deadricdeath265]

@@out_of_orbit1968 yeah I completely agree, I understand he's friends with her but at the same time you can still call out your friend's bullshit

[@thetwaige7482]

I’ve got experience training with guns through the military and personal use. One rule that’s always been consistent is to clear a gun when handed one regardless of what the person handing it to you said. This is a case is complacency causing death. There is a lot of fault on that set but it isn’t just on Alec.

[@nitzel9909]

Thank you for putting it into words

[@sizzlingwall716]

No complacency happened here other than from the armorer and the AD if all the rules on set were followed this would have happened, Baldwin has no liability.

[@es4152]

I agree I also want to say though is anyone who holds a firearm should check it and clear it even if a “prop master” says it’s unloaded other wise your already negligent. It takes no effort to check a firearm also most actors get training and firearms handling and learn how to manipulate the firearm and how it functions for the most part. Also all prop guns are almost always just real guns that use blanks or purpose built guns that fire blanks. Lastly A fucking chimpanzee or 7 year old could tell the difference between a blank or a live round if it was explained they look so different and are easy to spot in fact if you look at casings in movies or shows you can see a crimp on where the bullet would be on a blank, go pause on a movie and you can see this or look at a TV show and you can google real round vs blank and you’ll see what I’m talking about. So yea there’s no excuse especially when a negligent discharge happens once already in the day the scene should be paused and all ammo and weapons inspected to make sure everything is ok. This to me should be manslaughter, it wasn’t on purpose but you only need to be negligent for manslaughter. I don’t make the rules but anyone else would have gotten manslaughter besides a celebrity so that’s kinda BS.

[@FirstLastname604]

As a wise man once said, “it was a misunput, misinput, CALM DOWN, YOU CALM THE FUCK DOWN! IT WAS A MISINPUT”

[@BuckBuckle]

Valkyrae is absolutely a streamer, her having a KZbin channel doesn't stop that. Her having money also doesn't prevent her from being a scammer, Charlie should know this after all the KZbin videos he's streamed about influencers doing scams. Charlie went into full-on brainlet cope mode here.

[@Giliver]

Charlie more often then not has bad takes.

[@krazysamurai]

@@Giliver i’d say 50/50, he’s definitely not the second coming of christ like all these damn comments seem to say, but i find myself agreeing with him a fair bit

[@ignatio2044]

@@krazysamurai yeah I completely agree. I think Jackson was right in saying that she's either a scam artist or completely stupid, and Charlie's not ready to agree with either lol

[@JediMasterBaiter]

Alec Baldwin should sue the producers for ruining his image. Oh wait-

[@rogerdalzell]

tell me you dont know what a producer does without telling me.

[@JediMasterBaiter]

Okay.

[@lyricaljesus4078]

Tell someone they missed the joke without telling them you're an idiot.

[@hboyO2]

@@lyricaljesus4078 What

[@hboyO2]

@@lyricaljesus4078 You phrased that weirdly dude

[@JU-gh8eb]

Baldwin is one of the producers of the film, if there was in fact that much negligence going on around the film set then he isn’t exactly fully “innocent” here

[@gregfrohwein5579]

the worst he can be charged with for the act of shooting is manslaughter. but as the producer, he will be in a lot of hot water

[@gagewesterhouse9558]

He's literally the one who pulled the trigger. He's 100% guilty.

[@buzz6283]

They hand producer titles out to the actors, they're ceremonial titles. I highly doubt Alex Baldwin had any responsibilities other than show up and act.

[@samarsvard6384]

@@gagewesterhouse9558 Are you dense? You realize they were filming a movie right?

[@bigblackshoota295]

@@gagewesterhouse9558 if you were an actor and told that the gun you are holding is full of blanks and while shooting a scene an actual bullet comes out of the gun and kills someone. Do you want your life to be ruined by someone’s else’s mistake? Honest question because I wanna know your thought process

[@lxi..]

6:59 that's true. And it wasn't just the armorer. A group of crewmembers were allegedly doing something called "plinking" where you shoot beer cans from a distance with live rounds

[@bobblaster9097]

That’s called target practice g

[@skrimper]

I love how apparent your lack of gun knowledge is

[@iphoneawesome123]

Plinking is just shooting anything to get that 'plink' sound feedback. Could be cans, steel plates, gongs. I do it all the time cause it's fun to get that audible feedback that you hit something

[@Industry-insider]

This is 100% bullshit, please actually look into the situation and stop reading articles written by stupid people

[@sizzlingwall716]

@@darrenokeeffe2452 it means live ammunition was on set that’s so fucking bad.

[@frank031]

1) if you are handed a gun, check it, no ifs, no buts. 2) there's no magical kick that'll make the gun swing and hit someone, the kick affects the next shot.

[@hajsh67]

Exactly. Aside from the incompetence of the armorer and others on set, Baldwin would never have shot and killed/injured anyone had he been following all (or even most) of the basic rules of firearm safety. Even if someone hands me a freakin' BB gun, I'm following all of the same rules as I would for a real firearm. One of my shooting instructors is mostly blind in one eye from a BB gun.

[@isokayz]

Treat any gun as loaded at all times. Dont put your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to shoot whatever you are pointing the gun at. He needs to catch a criminal negligence charge if not a manslaughter charge.

[@hajsh67]

I'd say manslaughter sounds about right. He broke pretty much every single basic firearm safety rule. You are responsible for every round you fire. No one forced him to not inspect the firearm after it was handed him. No one forced him to point the gun in an unsafe direction. And no one forced him to put his finger on the trigger as he was allegedly unholstering the weapon.

[@wxlfie9414]

White knighting for valkyrae looks cringey... Charlie: she definitely got taken advantage of Everyone: So shes either dumb or shes a scammer? Charlie: noo noo its neither 100% bias, i get it tho the drama channels would eat that shit up if he agrees with anyone

[@dafuqisdis6008]

@Hadrim Losthor I don't think charlie thinks she's a scammer. I think he thinks she's stupid he just doesn't want to say that cus they're friends.

[@dafuqisdis6008]

@Hadrim Losthor Which in my opinion makes more sense as to why he's defending her.

[@MrDeathmagnetic08]

Real friends should call out their friend’s fuck ups, not just being yes men

[@thoughts9856]

Good thing rest of the Bois destroyed him tho

[@mikkelstrumer8628]

@@dafuqisdis6008 friends. All they did was play Among Us in the same lobby

[@davecoon5682]

The first rule of gun safety is assume a gun is loaded at all time. If someone says it’s empty it takes one second to check and one second to avoid an accident like this be it at a movie set or an actual shooting range. Really sad this happened

[@sandcraft6823]

The first question is why do they even use real guns still?

[@davecoon5682]

@@sandcraft6823 gotta save money somehow, unfortunately this was the cost

[@_Seileach]

@@sandcraft6823 I searched it up, and apparently it's sometimes cheaper to use real guns than to custom make a non-functional replica.

[@showoofity50]

@@sandcraft6823 Muat prop guys are real guns modified to shoot blanks that are powerful enough to eject the shell and look cool.

[@showoofity50]

@@darrenokeeffe2452 Mostly but most blanks don't have enough power to do all the gas operations. Wait but this is a revolver isn't it?

[@shinywatson]

Most film sets have an ample amount of alcohol in the craft area, especially when things start getting stressful. That may be another issue on set. Can't confirm of course but its a theory.

[@-fishingrod-]

I think Alec Bladwin’s lack of gun knowledge and safety had a lot to do with this also. He is anti-gun, so I think if he would’ve had proper training and overall knowledge of firearm safety he would’ve checked the gun, especially if there was already 3 accidental discharges on set. Seems that no one on the set, including the armorer, have no training on firearms safety. That is very concerning considering the fact they are using real guns on set.

[@DarverYeeler]

It’s not his job to ensure everything is alright, there’s people whose job it is is to do that

[@AnimatedTerror]

@@DarverYeeler exactly. The director, the armorer and any other positions that high on the chain of command are there to make sure the actor doesn’t need to worry about the gun. They should be able to take the weapon and assume there’s no issue with it. And the excuse that people are using that because he was a producer it was on him. The odds of him having been in the producer role are ludicrous. This was just as likely an outcome if he wasn’t one. This isn’t on him. This is pure incompetence on everyone else’s fault and now he’s got a persons death on his hands.

[@Coronaandvirus]

If Valkyrae knew it or not there is two things over here to consider 1: it is a scam 2: she is to blame for her participation on the product So she is part of a scam and should pay the consecuences

[@sebastianriz4703]

"You miss 100% of the shots you dont take." - Alec Baldwin

[@DanteLikesRock]

Lmao

[@hajsh67]

I don't think Baldwin is excused from liability in any way just by being told that the gun was "cold". One of the most basic methods of gun safety involves visually and physically inspecting a firearm once it is handed to you. Doesn't matter what anyone says about it being "clear" or "safe". You may have heard the saying "assume all firearms are loaded and ready to fire".

[@hajsh67]

@@HeyJinx Not saying the professionals don't share any of the blame. All of them should be fired and held responsible as much as is reasonably possible. But it's also their job to make sure anyone who they give a firearm to understands the responsibility of handling one. I've taken plenty of new shooters to the range before. I'm completely aware that they don't know how to handle firearms. I spend about an hour at my house with them, going over the 4 fundamental rules of firearm safety. I also go over how to treat a firearm when it is handed to you. To assume it's always loaded. I teach them to visually and physically inspect the firearm, to show that it is clear or "safe" (using dummy rounds, of course), among other things. If they can't demonstrate to me that they understand these fundamental rules, or they can't manipulate a firearm safely, then I'm not taking them to the range. Most people that I've spent an hour or so with would have more sense than Alec Baldwin with his negligent handling of the firearm in this situation.

[@DVK111]

@@hajsh67 not everyone is a shooter and has had that ‘hour’ though.

[@hajsh67]

@@DVK111 No, but if you are going to handle a firearm recreationally or professionally in any context, I would say that basic level of understanding of firearm safety is absolutely necessary before doing so. Anyone who thinks they are exempt from this are potentially putting other people's lives at risk.

[@DVK111]

@@hajsh67 sure, but in this case it was to be used as a prop.

[@sizzlingwall716]

@@hajsh67 no, have you ever seen a hostage scene, 3 of the 4 rules are always broken, the context in which guns are used on set is never how a normal person should use a gun, I thought only children thought this lol

[@user-gk5vw4in8w]

When Andrew looks into the camera I feel him staring into my soul.

[@PoorPlyser]

Time stamp?

[@gooeyboy706]

My defense was harshly lowered.

[@cyrolocker1229]

“Excellent work 47, Now head for a exit”

[@User-gk1yi]

"Good evening, Mr.Baldwin. I'm the new stage hand, Tobias Rieper." "I've been absolutely dying to work on your films." "The stage is ready for you to begin... shooting." "Try this prop instead, it makes for a much more realistic... execution."

[@cdogthehedgehog6923]

"You're going to be a straight _shot_ for best actor."

[@knuteknoll6747]

“And the Academy Award for best shot goes to……Alec Baldwin”

[@gamelove0169]

when someone hands you a firearm you check it regardless if it's already been cleared. this was an avoidable tragedy where Alec Baldwin isn't solely to blame but he should still face consequences. i don't think he should face criminal charges but a negligence charge for everyone involved in the tragedy.

[@dannymorales5549]

Why would he get a negligence charge, its not on the actor for him to test the gun, theres a team for that already. It makes no sense to test something that was given to you and tested to see if its a prop gun, its on the people that cleared the gun that where in the wrong.

[@jefferyhaag1]

Checking a revolver they hand him would require him to unload and reload completely. It’s not at all necessary too because the person who handed in to you just did that. He’s also got a job to do and haltIng production every time he’s handed a gun would be absolutely insane.

[@gamelove0169]

@@dannymorales5549 when someone hands you a firearm you are responsible for it. it's not a toy it's a weapon and if basic gun safety was used on set this tragedy could of been avoided.

[@dannymorales5549]

@@gamelove0169 Yes but the person that gave him the gun is a literal armoreor, someone that probably knows guns way more than Alec. If anything thid was the armoreors fault.

[@MegaMetal96]

@@dannymorales5549 it’s everyone’s job.

[@anantimelrifle7769]

When you handle a gun you always check the chamber to see if the gun is hot. It doesn’t matter that whoever gives it to you says it’s empty, you check anyway.

[@Daily_Meat_Dealer]

Yes that is literally one of the first rules of handling a firearm, and it should be general common sense even if you have no prior gun training like Alec. The fact that the gun had misfired prior to this Alec should definitely have been more weary with it

[@anantimelrifle7769]

@@HeyJinx No matter how hard to gun to blame professionals, if Alec didn't know how to use a gun, he shouldn't have used one on set. Plain and simple. He (and every single person who is responsible for the final handling of the firearm) has the responsibility to check the chamber. I frankly don't care if he didn't know how to use a gun, and I don't care what etiquette the set has. The rules of gun safety, such as the rule I keep mentioning, has and forever will trump any propped up rule from any production studio. Failure to be in accordance to this rule can and will result in this exact occurrence.

[@MachinaGirlRobots]

Id def never fire a gun without looking for myself. People make mistakes.

[@sizzlingwall716]

@@anantimelrifle7769 if an instructor hands you a gun and says it’s cold you aren’t checking again unless that’s a specific procedure, that also isn’t on set, actors don’t have liability when handling guns armorers have all the responsibility and liability that’s why they don’t want dip shits fucking with the chamber, if you want more rules fine, but those rules weren’t present their.

[@zz7733]

That's why there should have been a professional on set to ensure Alec knew the proper procedures. Still unsure of how this is his fault.

[@joeyzavala3179]

Love everyone and hope yall have a beautiful day

[@ArMentorLazada]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/apfOYXmHibRkebc

[@zadamany9255]

Thanks

[@ViaCristero]

I will never get tired of the intro music 😂

[@pocketsora2210]

I've seen the vid with the guy and two kids. Helicopter blades come down and all you see is pink mist. It's crazy how that film got released...

[@goodtimepoke]

For once I agree with Kya, @24:06 that regardless of who said what you ALWAYS assume the gun is hot and that it’s loaded. Never sun at something you don’t intent to shoot.

[@thesovietkevin7275]

never sun at something?

[@knuteknoll6747]

@@thesovietkevin7275 point is what i think he meant

[@bumberquest3031]

Idk if Alec Baldwin has had proper gun safety training or not and I do agree that he isn't blameless, but as someone who has never taken any safety courses or anything if several people told me that a gun had no bullets in it, I probably wouldn't go through the trouble of checking myself. It seems obvious to check the gun yourself but I do not think it is as common knowledge as people think it is.

[@perpetual_suffering1458]

I hate how people try to apply normal gun safety to a movie set because it doesn't apply. All 4 rules of gun safety are constantly broken on movie sets because you kinda have to to shoot a scene. Like hell look how many times actors point guns at people in hostage scenes ect. Because of this, to ensure safety, the job of ensuring the gun is cold is based on the armourer, I read theyre supposed to have a stringent check were one will check if the gun is cold, then pass it to another person who will also check if the gun is cold, and then its passed to the actor.

[@Industry-insider]

@@perpetual_suffering1458 I don’t give a fuck what they do in movies, you never risk someone’s life to save a couple minutes, there’s literally 6 dummy rounds in the gun and shaking them first to check would have saved a life. Also he isn’t a minimum wage employee, he knew the risk but as someone who doesn’t like or even respect guns he just went ahead and pulled the trigger when pointing at someone

[@sizzlingwall716]

@@Industry-insider you can only handle the gun how you are instructed, two people should have check the gun beforehand, what is this two deaths in 40 years, what’s the rate at a gun range, DAMN LIBERALS HAVE BETTER PRACTICES!!

[@rogerdalzell]

your ignorance is showing

[@arayagarner2291]

@@rogerdalzell ???

[@deanb0t]

i really hate using the word with like a passion but i can’t think of a better word to describe what charlie is doing but charlie really simps for valkyrie this episode like when they even point to her being in on it as a joke or speculate he tries his hardest to debunk it and even compares it to robinhood which isn’t even near being the same situation as robinhood was an actual site that did it’s purpose while they were being sponsored up until they sold out

[@deanb0t]

just realized a better word would be white knighting charlie is directly taking after those songs of his

[@magnumopus788]

Ay man 🤕

[@magnumopus788]

@@deanb0t arent they friends

[@jordynoche]

@@magnumopus788 yea that’s probably why hes whte knighting her

[@magnumopus788]

@@jordynoche true

[@lindholmaren]

40:45 the concept that all the parks have to individually calculate the "reasonable" amount of people that can die each year is so funny to me holy moly

[@josephstaggs4545]

That Deadpool 2 thing is vastly different. No one made her do that stunt. She did it to keep her job and paycheck. The Alec Baldwin situation is pure negligence.

[@sizzlingwall716]

On only the AD and armorer

[@Based_nobark]

At least Kaya tells it straight

[@lkjd3586]

I seem to agree with him on most things maybe because I am a realist or just a cynic idk.

[@conearka2901]

For Charlie being more popular it obviously gets him more slack for opinions. For kaya it is comparatively easier to put out opinions without taking heat

[@sineowl443]

@@conearka2901 you are talking as if charlie didnt give his opinion, he did, and he fought hard for it. she is a friend of his, his fame aside, he is biased towards her.

[@GivemeyourpizzaNOW]

I never agree with him (like once in a blue moon) but I won't deny you that

[@greatcesari]

@@GivemeyourpizzaNOW Own up to your opinions; deny him that.

[@pepperonitony6986]

The official podcast is one of the best podcast channels on this app

[@blaximum]

Stop the 🧢

[@ethansapp3473]

And it has so many bot comments wtf but I agree

[@Industry-insider]

I like these guys but you clearly don’t listen to any good podcasts lol

[@Industry-insider]

Actually I just realized you said one of the best so you right

[@Anime4Life9861]

Charlie really trying to defend Valkyrae!

[@felixwhiteside3220]

She is his friend kinda

[@sugma6723]

I honestly don’t think what Valkyrie did was that bad. As someone who grew up with 5 sisters ill tell you half the beauty industry is scams and stuff that isn’t proven to work😂 My thought is if people are dumb enough to buy those types of things without doing a little bit of research first they had it coming🤷‍♂️ they’re still getting the product they paid for they just didn’t need it 😂 at least that’s my understanding of the whole thing I haven’t even got to that part of the ep yet😂

[@fr0ck360]

I mean he played Among us and Rust with her where among us was still trending and collab are openly wide

[@mikkelstrumer8628]

@@felixwhiteside3220 they only played a few games of among us together

[@AsdAsd-ph2hn]

@@sugma6723 What a ridiculous take, can't believe people think like this. You could exonerate most crimes by using this logic.

[@sddragon28]

For reference, it wasn’t a planned helicopter crash on the twilight zone set. The pilot had stated his concern about flying close to several mortar rounds buried around the fly zone. Which one round would end up clipping the chopper, knocking it down.

[@phabiorules]

Fun fact about the drama of Riverdale. One of the seasons ended with Archie, Veronica, and Betty all taking their clothes off and burning them as a flash forward. The creators had no idea why they were burning them, it was just to build suspense for the next season. The actor who played Jughead though (Cole Sprouse) refused to take his clothes off due to how cold it was, so he spent the entire time in his trailer. This made one of the biggest plot points of the season happen simply because he didnt want to shoot the scene.

[@Minky12345]

Everyone is guilty, gun safety is everyone’s responsibility especially the one that holds it. This act of negligence is Alecs fault and the safety crew

[@greghefley3626]

Prove it

[@Andrew-pi3xl]

Your so right this is an accident that could t been prevented by all 3 levels, the worker the supervisor and the employer. They should all be held responsible.

[@brandonscruton8865]

I do agree to a point, it absolutely is everyone's job but if it was in the holster and had a closed revolving bit then he would have had to take it out of the holster to check and that's when it misfired

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@greghefley3626 You NEVER point a gun at people. Literally preschool knowledge.

[@prawngravy18]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 He didn't think he was holding a real gun, are you serious?.

[@PlumbingExplained]

Charlie’s opinion on this subject is scary considering he’s the owner of a gun. Nomatter what you should always check your weapon specially if somebody else handled it before you

[@vyws]

its not his job. its a fucking prop gun. he doesnt have to check the chamber if theres a certified armourer on set handing it to him and calling it cold. its not his fault that there was a live round in it.

[@ArMentorLazada]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/apfOYXmHibRkebc

[@poppaganja3793]

Yup even if they say it's clear I still check every time u pick up a gun there potentially room for someone's life to be token on purpose or accident

[@poppaganja3793]

I handle guns alot point th at people but I know they clear and I'm from hood so

[@poppaganja3793]

@@vyws no it is his job ciz he's handling it now he has to live with this

[@grimsclip]

This is going to be a very interesting podcast episode.

[@diamondrhino64]

My thoughts exactly

[@mikkelstrumer8628]

Why not listen then comment? What was the point of commenting that?

[@drukqs1736]

@@mikkelstrumer8628 what was the point in your response?

[@grimsclip]

@@mikkelstrumer8628 I’m sorry for commenting before hand

[@mikkelstrumer8628]

@@drukqs1736 what was the point of tour reply? Did mine offend you? Just seems weird to comment that when you could just watch/listen to it.

[@TheKorbor]

The water park accident was at Schlitterbahn in Kansas City, Kansas. There was no loop, it was just a ramp and there was not enough weight in the raft to weigh it down so it flew up after the initial drop.

[@schwiftyybeard305]

Charlie is simping for Valk so hard lol

[@muffinboi4134]

He wants to keep his twitch connections lol

[@showoofity50]

Only good thing is now he can make a horror move called paintball with Alec Baldwin.

[@rudeboi_ryu]

Lmao. Just to think this is the guy we watched on Cat & the hat growing up 💀💀

[@Phunk_me]

She even said herself that she came up with the idea !

[@isaacrobinson5062]

"Don't forget to put on your screenscreen before you go play Fortnite, Timmy."

[@Liam-rn1qb]

Its not entirely Baldwin's fault, but he definitely has some share in the blame. Any time you're handed a firearm, it's your responsibility to check it.

[@SFEphobos]

This^ ALL DAY THIS!

[@braedensteele3184]

Literally, it wasn't. It was the people who handed him the gun. He has been on countless movies and handled countless guns where nothing ever happened because they did things right. At this point, it becomes second-hand nature. And when I go to a shooting range and the person hands me a gun, I trust that that person did everything properly. Alec holds almost no responsibility because he did what he was told by the people who are supposed to be responsible, same as if someone handed a magician a knife that should have been fake and that person did everything they were supposed to do for the trick and the knife killed someone; was that person supposed to stab something and make sure it was fake or trust the person? It's easy to blame the person after the fact because an accident happened without ever bringing up the issue when nothing happened hundreds of other times.

[@djwtp3]

Kaya said it right.Who ever is handling the gun is responsible to safely do so. I'm not saying Alec Baldwin is alone at fault, but he is at fault. The term "prop" just refers to an object being used in a scene. Not it being real or fake.

[@dakotatrue12]

A real gun doesn't belong on set at all. The only way he is to blame is if he had anything to do with producing the props, or if he actually knew the gun was real and loaded. Otherwise it's not his responsibility to make sure he's not using a real gun when there is no logical reason that would be the case.

[@djwtp3]

@@dakotatrue12 Again as previously stated. Prop has nothing to do with being real. Maybe they should'nt be, but they are. A seasoned actor like Baldwin would and does know this. He has been acting for almost 40 years.He was also a producer for this film.

[@devastatheseeker9967]

It's kinda weird the armourer had a barcode on the back of her head and a strangely lower voice.

[@kazekagekid]

3:10 when you hold a gun, it is always your responsibility to treat it like it’s loaded with a live round with no safety (and check the chamber anyway, which would have shown that there was a live round rather than just a blank) regardless of what the person who handed it to you says. This is the first thing anyone tells you about gun safety, followed by dont point it at anything you don’t intend to destroy and don’t put your finger on the trigger until you’re ready to kill.

[@ccraig6704]

It his not his responsibility whatsoever it is the responsibility of the armouror

[@montyspa6950]

regular rules dont apply to actors dude

[@bigtheorymusic]

100%. It doesn't matter if anyone's job was to check, because they obviously didn't. That's why the person handling the firearm is ALWAYS responsible for making sure it's not a hot gun. Anyone who has had more than 1 minutes' experience with a firearm should know to always check.

[@JohnDoe-ks9xx]

Bro it's absolutely not Eric's fault for someone else not doing their jobs

[@kazekagekid]

@@ccraig6704 that’s where you’re wrong. it’s your responsibility because you’re the one handling the firearm and you’re the one legally responsible for any rounds fired while holding it. if I hand you a loaded gun and tell you it’s empty and you don’t check, we both go to jail when you shoot someone.

[@exaltance]

I feel like they keep saying "misfired" as if the gun shot itself. The reason the gun fired is because whoever had it in their hands had their fingers in the trigger well. It's not your job to be the armorer, but redundancy in gun safety is very common. These things are dangerous, especially when you assume something isn't loaded without verifying it yourself.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

And to not aim your gun at people

[@iROXBEDDA]

Charlie your flat out wrong. If you're ever handling a firearm once it's in your possession it's your responsibility to check to see if the weapon in hot or cold. Terms meaning whether or not the gun is loaded or not. Regardless of there being an armorer, no matter what when a weapon is in your possession it's now your responsibility.

[@DYFEA]

Remember, alec baldwin was made famous by his breakout role as the tiny, shrunken magic conductor in the blockbuster film "Thomas And The Magic Railroad".

[@bencarmine2]

Charlie definitely was trying his hardest to keep the other guys off the scam train.

[@mikkelstrumer8628]

Its like an unwritten law where you have to defend other big streamers not mater what.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

Fame corrupts

[@user-NameName]

Are people on twitch under contract to defend other content creators?

[@ss9392]

@@user-NameName nah but charlie is friends with ludwig and others from offline tv so i guess they have a connection

[@user-NameName]

@@ss9392 Nothing like an internet circle jerk between people who make 500 grand a year

[@loganflores486]

Even in the military, if you are handed a weapon by the armor, it is your responsibility to inspect the chamber for live rounds, and when you hand it to someone else, it is also their responsibility to inspect the chamber for ammunition, the responsibility doesn’t rest on one single person, but everyone who has laid their hands upon that weapon, Alec Baldwin is at fault for not inspecting the chamber upon the weapon being handed to him period.

[@DVK111]

Why do you say ‘even in the military’, because that is the one place where it’d be the most logical for people to know a lot about firearm safety.

[@loganflores486]

@@DVK111 Most junior enlisted are 18-20 years old and straight out of high-school, basically still kids, Alec Baldwin is over half a century old and isn't held to the same standard.

[@DVK111]

@@loganflores486 Alec Baldwin isn’t in the military tho, circumstances are a bit different

[@michaeldiaz7620]

Apparently they also found a crap ton of live ammo on set which is definitely a giant red flag as to why you would have ammo lying around.

[@blumpy18]

remember: same shit happened to Brandon Lee when he was working on "The Crow". This isn't the first time someone has died on set to a "prop gun". It's so sad, and I hope people learn from their mistakes and check the weapons before "a shot" is taken.

[@rogerfurlong1535]

Charlie is such a big name in showbiz he got Baldwin on his podcast. #HungerGames

[@earlyhetzer]

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[@DanzelGlovington]

Lol hashtag hungergames, speedrunning the Charlie cliche jokes

[@mikebuthge9762]

"Are you Alec Baldwin?" "Yes, I'm Alec's bald twin"

[@Phunk_me]

She didn’t get scammed she came up with the idea for a blue light blocking lotion bro… she came up with the idea and helped fund it and promote it!

[@groovyllicious]

Where did you get your info from?

[@mattguindon1190]

Jackson is a cool guy

[@qwerty3347]

My favorite podcast

[@RoIIingStoned]

So interesting to hear about the other tragic incidents on other films

[@zadamany9255]

I don’t care whether it’s somebody’s job to tell you if a gun is loaded, if you’re handed a real gun, it is your responsibility to handle it properly. Even if the armorer purposefully put real rounds in the gun (not saying they did), it is still the operator’s actions that dictate where it is pointed, where any bullet that may be in it goes, etc. You can’t pay someone to do TAB+1 for you…

[@sizzlingwall716]

You are not allowed to handle the gun in any way unless instructed, it would be pointless to check as two other should have done so. Please state where it’s protocol to check the firearm at set I’ll be waiting a while. There is no fault on Alec.

[@mrfourtwenty8506]

Charlie thinks he right all the time its so cute

[@juanvictorz.escanilla1265]

Yeah, that's how opinions work

[@mrfourtwenty8506]

@@juanvictorz.escanilla1265 you didn't really just say that right?or are you just joking?

[@slick3996]

@@juanvictorz.escanilla1265 no thats in fact not how opinions work

[@juanvictorz.escanilla1265]

@@slick3996 i mean, it wouldn't be your opinion if u didn't think it was right

[@paulpolito2001]

It takes all of 5 seconds to safety check the cylinder/mag/chamber. Its hard for me to give anyone involved a pass, tbh. Sounds like widespread, systemic negligence on that set…

[@absintheminded8466]

Alec Baldwin ran that set, he is the owner and head of the production company that made Rust and through neglect he drove his gun safety crew to strike in protest of unsafe conditions. He basically said screw them and their union- lets get some scabs to do the work of trained professionals. There were multiple misfirings that day and he didn't care. The person they filled the armorer position with was put in that position because her dad or something was a famous armorer in the business so they assumed she knew what she was doing too. Ffs.

[@moonie5565]

Guarantee majority if not all of the people saying he is not at least mostly at fault for this have never handled actual guns before and are going off of things they've heard reported by the media and seen in Hollywood movies