The Official Podcast Episode

[@Diabeetus88]

Charlie just looking around at a funeral going "why the fuck are you guys even crying, you didn't see them die?"

[@Ian.OnTheInternet]

😂😂

[@justaguywhosaweebforfun]

HAHAHAHA

[@aarowtheblacksmith789]

I'd be able to see Charlie's point to a limited degree if it weren't for the fact that Harry Potter is almost entirely fixed to Harry's perspective. In order to have a dedicated death scene for every character, Harry would have to be present every time someone dies. They're at war, there's a lot at play, and we're only following what Harry sees of it, so there's naturally a lot happening off screen.

[@jimmyelkordy3752]

Yeah, I don’t get why he wants Harry to witness 6 deaths in the span of an hour. It would also be really dumb to say “everything was fine until Harry walked into the room”

[@ExcessVengeance]

Wow, for the first time in ages, no one has their cam on but Kaya, this feels like I'm in an episode of the twilight zone.

[@UsernameUsername0000]

I’m hoping next week’s has only Kaya and Jackson with a camera on to complete all possible combinations

[@badazzkaz]

Bro I feel like they all take a week to turn on last week andrews was on

[@user-bm1qu7wt9w]

@@badazzkazHavent seen jackson solo tho

[@user-bm1qu7wt9w]

@@UsernameUsername0000havent seen Jackson go solo tho

[@badazzkaz]

@@user-bm1qu7wt9w he was solo a couple weeks a go i think

[@clifton4566]

Surprisingly I'm actually with Andrew and Jackson on this one, especially when it comes to Fred's death. It happening off screen is intentional, and Harry finding out like that is very realistic, that's one of the scariest things about war. You can only do so much, you can't always be there to have one of your guy's back, or to even see what happened. You finally get a chance to recover and rest, but then you find out someone you cared about died, and you didn't even know. That will haunt you just as much as witnessing it. The lack of emotional build up and sudden shock of learning about their death, often as you see their corpse, is the way it often goes. It's cold, sudden, and you don't get time to even really process it.

[@ImLikeGoku]

The one thing I can completely agree with Jackson and Andrew is the emotional impact of finding out that Fred died. To me it his hard because it was so random and we didn't know what was going on until it showed the body. Him getting blasted by a spell on screen wouldn't have made anyone cry, but seeing his whole family cry hit different imo. It also made Harry feel completely powerless because people are dying in places even where he isn't, so it made him want to give himself up.

[@chiefbeef9905]

Ye, also imagine Charlie's version the movie, it'd literally be like 90% just establishing that a character died in a certain way. At a certain point it just becomes gratuitous, especially a series with so many characters. Not every character can have a specific death scene, then a scene of their family grieving. Its a balancing act between trying to have each death be impactful, but showing literally every death end on end takes all the impact away also.

[@talkingaboutgames7313]

Fred's death in the book was protecting Harry. He and George were fighting death eaters in the hallway, and harry/ron/Hermione need to get to another place, and the twins help protect them. George makes a joke, Fred is laughing, and a wall next to him got blown up, killing him, but they mention how he still has the laugh on his face.

[@deadlyydude5522]

@@talkingaboutgames7313it was so much better in the books. Same with what happened to Percy

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

@@talkingaboutgames7313It was Percy that was fighting alongside Fred, not George, which makes all the more tragic since Percy was estranged for years and only recently came back to the Weasleys. ETA: Also, because I’m a huge nerd bitch, the twins weren’t protecting Harry. The trio stumbled upon Percy and Fred fighting Death Eaters after escaping from the fiendfyre in the Room of Requirement.

[@talkingaboutgames7313]

@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64 yes yes, you are right, he was dueling alongside Percy

[@discomallard69]

It's amazing how they can all stay so incredibly still for the duration of the podcast, whilst ventriloquizing the whole time

[@BlakeBigfoot]

Kaya could use a little work though.

[@Unfortunately_Mickey]

Some episodes I think Andrew is a png when he’s not 😂

[@Wicked061]

​@@Anunnamedtankits getting fucking annoying. "Hurr durr i sedz the same joke every video ahahaha lel give me likes"

[@indianchad]

yeah, in some episodes it looks like andrew is a png but then his mouth moves and scares the shit out of me

[@CenoriaWoah]

@@Anunnamedtank joke???

[@dorian4191]

Kaya was 100% spot on about what would happen with the reddit protest. They got their mod power threatened and immediately folded

[@leonkin6]

I was about to say this lmao.

[@joshuakohn4408]

Kaya was right about something? I guess miracles are real

[@Braydonut]

@@joshuakohn4408 i feel like kaya often speaks w the most reason

[@leonkin6]

@@Braydonut yeah i feel like he just had a very specific point of view that is different then a lot of western people.

[@Braydonut]

@@leonkin6 that's fair

[@johi9368]

Guy who read the books here. Harry needed those deaths to happen "off screen" to shock him into sacrificing himself. He gets to the great hall and sees all his dead friends and he realizes he could have stopped it by surrendering. He's supposed to not expect it and its supposed to shock both him and the reader into realizing that if it keeps going like this everyone will die. Those deaths mean something because they motivate Harry to make the ultimate sacrifice to prevent more death.

[@strejtkYYy]

Its so frustrating hearing them argue about something because the movies are just so badly directed but they keep saying its "bad writing" when those deaths were pretty shocking/emotional and with clear purpose in the books

[@narna2147]

I think the off screen deaths give the audience the same lack of closure to the characters that die which harry ron and hermione are feeling and therefore makes you feel a more realistic sense of loss then some grand death which is shown

[@pointyheadYT]

This makes 0 sense. I'm guessing you'd also be ok with uncle Ben from Spiderman 1 dyeing offscreen?

[@ScooterCat64]

@@pointyheadYT What works best for one film isn't always the same of what works best for another

[@pointyheadYT]

@@ScooterCat64 Well, the offscreen death's in part7 didn't do it for me. There's a good way to do offscreen deaths and there's a bad way. An example of a well-done offscreen death is Barty Crouch Sr. in part4. It needed to be not shown for shock value, since they needed to set up the big reveal scene. Also, we never saw Barty's combat prowess, so no fan would be mad not seeing the explicit way he fell. On the other hand, how they did the Mad-Eye Moody death is literally spitting in the mouth of all fans of HP. We saw a powerhouse of a professor, who was presented as Harry's guardian, basically Dumbledores Left Hand man, just be written off midflight... gone... **poof**... and no one even comments on it further or reacts in any way. He's just gone and never mentioned again. His death had no meaning, or at least it felt that way to me. At least Hedwig died contributing something to the fight. The Remus and Fred deaths were similarly awfull. I see a lot of people mentioning how it made the final fight feel impactfull. Umm, how exactly? We follow Harry's "treadmill" like POV, then we hear some folks are dead out of nowhere? But... Voldemort has killed waaaay more important people to Harry before... and the big baddie is still there, alive and well, as well as all his henchmen.... So the new deaths of all these beloved characters did nothing to increase the tension or Harry's determination. He still follows the same treadmill-like events regardless, giving himself up. If you're gonna have them die pointless deaths, then at least do us the service of seeing how they fell. Perhaps in flashbacks or dreams, the way they did it in previous movies. And don't give me that bullsh** argument of "the story sticks strictly to Harry's POV" for immersions sake. Where the f was Harry during Bellatrix's death? Was he also there next to Neville giving him a pep-talk? Did he observe all the fights with a spyglass, is he perhaps omnipotent or maybe he just felt the morbid need to check what everyone was doing on his map somehow? Give me a break...

[@gobackpls3029]

@@pointyheadYTah yes very analogous, the starting point to Spider-Man vs unimportant side character

[@a_fine_edition2746]

@@pointyheadYT Spider-Man's original origin had Uncle Ben die off-panel in a home invasion. Peter got there after the fact and a police officer told him that his uncle was dead. The movies have removed this element. They removed/changed a lot of elements to the original story in fact, particularly why Peter lets the thug go. The original story still works great, because it still feels real. If anything it can feel more real. Also, the sad part is that Peter never gets proper closure with his uncle. In both of the films dealing with his origin he has a falling out with Uncle Ben just before he's killed. In the OG comic there isn't any such thing. Peter thinks the absolute world of his aunt and uncle. Personally I'd much rather they keep to the original, or at least for the next inevitable retelling try to keep some of those elements intact.

[@leonkin6]

Listening to 4 guys argue about a single characters death not being shown in a young teen movie makes my head hurt.

[@metalheadofmordor9169]

No, it reminds me why I still listen to this podcast. Such things are pure gold.

[@rileybolling761]

⁠@@metalheadofmordor9169 not a super serious topic and entertaining. I love it

[@stickieyams]

WhT I've noticed in this comment section is yall take their bamter WAAAy to serious 😳

[@MattyP650]

@@stickieyamsyeh 💯

[@AnxietyAttack.]

@@metalheadofmordor9169heir stupidity is fucking hilarious. They’re the living embodiments of the gen z mindset except for the fact they have a successful KZbin channel that doesn’t thrive on shitty clout chasing or video games.

[@MrPain522]

Charlie arguing with Andrew about why he shouldn't have enjoyed a movie is wild to me.

[@artist266]

If that’s what you got from that conversation then you are lost

[@WHO_CARES88]

@@artist266what did you get from it then?

[@artist266]

@@WHO_CARES88 there are debating on the importance of onscreen/offscreen character deaths and it’s impact on the movie.

[@shearman360]

​@@artist266off screen deaths widen the scope and show that consequences happen out of the protagonist'a point of view. The only bs one was Wormtail who doesn't even die off screen in the book, the movie just cut out his death for no reason and never even established that he was dead.

[@lennardjordan3910]

@@artist266 yeah, but except for Fred all those deaths happen "off screen" in the books as well

[@adenward3266]

The debate was so intense that it shattered time and left charlie, Andrew, and Jackson frozen in time

[@muhammadHassan-kj1jy]

😂

[@GutsgyattEnjoyer]

@@MdoubleHB I want a beef burger now.

[@Shrubby1337]

​@@GutsgyattEnjoyersame but with chicken and ranch after and a big fish for tomorrow afternoon

[@Inebriated_Goat]

​@@MdoubleHBjust got done eating a steak, it was delicious 😋

[@kiwirooks7299]

​@@MdoubleHB "I love having early onset dementia and having to take hundreds of supplements because I'm not eating what I was evolved to!" - You, 2023.

[@sophia-fuckthehandlesystem]

Fred's death scene in the book (Sorry for formatting issues): "Harry looked around and his heart seemed to fail: Death Eaters had penetrated Hogwarts. Fred and Percy had just backed into view, both of them dueling masked and hooded men. .... "You actually are joking, Perce. . . . I don’t think I’ve heard you joke since you were-“ The air exploded. .... “No-no-no!” someone was shouting. “No! Fred! No!” And Percy was shaking his brother, and Ron was kneeling beside them, and Fred’s eyes stared without seeing, the ghost of his last laugh still etched upon his face." (I used ellipsis to skip a bunch of dialogue and description, but his death was very much on screen.)

[@suntzu8168]

If they had kept in Percy's arc in books 4-7 then this seen had to have been shown but because it was absent it is unneccary and would add extra differences from book to movie

[@suntzu8168]

Story time: The reason they cut out Fred's death in DH2 is because of Percy. There is an entire arc in books 4-7 about Percy's decline and redemption from Ministry worshipper to fighting along side his family. Percy was known to be the most serious in the family and never made jokes, so after he made up with his family, Percy joked to one of the death eaters after knocking him out and Fred laughs and says "You actually are joking, Perce ... I don't think I've heard you joke since you were -" This is when Fred gets blown up, being killed instantly. The book goes out of its way to say that Fred's laugh is engraved on his mouth even after he died. If they had changed Fred's death then the people who read the books would be upset that his death was altered, so they just show his corpse and Harry's reaction.

[@ReptillianStrike]

but why couldn't they have shown that in the movie?

[@a_fine_edition2746]

@@ReptillianStrike Because they took out Percy's entire arc. He literally only shows up in the background after the 2nd film, and barely gets anymore speaking lines. The emotional impact would've still been there, but not in as big of a capacity. Plus it would've added to the already lengthy runtime.

[@sammykane5967]

Andrew not understanding what dying offscreen actually means is so funny

[@lukeshioshio]

Dying off screen actually refers to when a character is lazily written out of a TV show

[@ssantos88]

@@lukeshioshioOr they aren’t that important. Or at least that’s how it feels.

[@lukeshioshio]

@@ssantos88 it's usually done out of spite for an actor quitting or getting fired from a show

[@ssantos88]

@@lukeshioshio It has been used for that as well.

[@surprisinglyroomy]

He did understand it, but Charlie’s binary view of this made the discussion confusing. Dying off screen isn’t inherently bad. The writing can be good or bad either way and the choice of showing a death or not is just that, a choice. You can write both of those choices well, and whether the right choice was made for a given situation, is debatable. Charlie, however was speaking as if it is never debatable, so anytime Andrew tried to talk about how some of the deaths were arguably addressed fine to good in his opinion, Charlie just kept repeating “died off screen” as if it was a hard counter, end of discussion rebuttal. That is illogical. So, Andrew thought Charlie was basically just saying the writing was super flippant with the deaths, where they maybe weren’t even mentioned or just hardly at all, when really, he was just literally repeating died off screen = bad writing. Again, that is illogical so that is why there was so much confusion. Rare L from Jesus himself

[@sirksees]

shocking how it took this long for people to finally realize Dream is cringe

[@PrinceFloof]

He's a fucking minecraft youtuber, of course he's cringe

[@ExValeFor]

it takes time to grow up from 12 to 16

[@edrick106]

Jesus Christ that debate about Harry Potter felt like a loop, it just keeps going and going and it's just them saying the same points over and over, we get it.

[@adamcarman5330]

TIL in a movie following the main character’s POV during a war, Charlie would rather have a million 3 second cutaways to show exactly how a character dies instead of seeing afterwards how Harry is impacted by the realization their deaths are kinda his fault and he couldn’t stop it

[@ccrookedp5485]

I’m a UK listener that likes to think I can take a joke and I don’t support the monarchy or the queens guards at all but it’s hard not to feel offended about how hard these guys are going in on England. We have a couple weeks of hot weather a year and the rest of the seasons are cold so why would every home pay thousands for AC, but with that being said a lot of new homes and work buildings do have it. Andrew asking all UK listeners ‘why do you live there’ and saying we only got the internet last year just leaves a sour taste in my mouth. It’s just as easy to mock America for different things from a UK perspective

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

Let's ask Americans why they live in a country where you can't walk into a school or parking lot without worrying about eating lead

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@lv2982 Americans lack the self awareness to realise

[@Edward-Not-Elric]

Yeah, and the UK *does* do that. Why do you think they were so combative? People from the UK often have insufferable superiority complexes, which colours a very bad picture for non-UK folks, especially Americans. It could be anything as innocuous as removing the u from colour/spelling aluminum instead of aluminium or as serious as bad Healthcare and school shootings. Your country dishes it out plenty, so it's bound to get it back. I personally don't partake, but it's easy to see why people do on all sides.

[@mrthezeem]

Lol, god damn charlie is salty about harry potter. Andrews point that this only affects a big harry potter fan is really spot on, ive seen all the movies, read all the books because of ex girlfriends, and i really just couldnt care less about the lack of death scenes, the emotion was there, the point was proven, for charlie to call it 'lazy' just seems like an emotional overreach on his part. Its okay man, its okay. They just need to hug it out.

[@TheGuardianssorrow]

Idk I read a lot, and Harry Potter isn’t that good when you actually read quality books. 😂

[@thatrandomgamer6278]

@@TheGuardianssorrowThey’re not some magnum opus of literature but they’re decent novels.

[@pippylongsausage1275]

@@TheGuardianssorrow woahh quality book enjoyer here

[@dusky6280]

@@TheGuardianssorrow This guys a fuckin scholar man, watch out

[@JackPlayzTwo]

Facts the emotion was there. It’s like hearing a friend/family member close to you has died. You’re obviously gonna be emotional from hearing that information. You don’t need to see them die to really feel something.

[@devinpalazzo1906]

They’re both right about Fred Weasley’s death scene. Killing a long-standing character off screen is lame, but that scene was powerful and impactful, and the only way that scene works and you feeling the shock Harry feels is to do exactly that. It’s a catch 22. 💯

[@Clagnuts]

"Why weren't UK houses built with AC?" must rank for sheer intelligence alongside a British person being stunned to find that their rental in Florida or Cali doesn't have a roaring fireplace. Historically, only the most extreme outlying weather would have made it necessary. It's very easy to find AC units if they're important to you, and the more that heatwaves become normal the more common they'll become. Many homes are also having heat pumps installed for more efficient heating, and which can be reversed to cool the home. I like having four distinct seasons with little to no extreme weather. Other opinions are available. Seeing people genuinely suffer in 15C weather is just as funny to us as our dislike of heat is to these guys.

[@Evanz111]

Yeah it felt incredibly naive and judgemental. Glad to hear that the only one of them to actually visit the UK vouched for how awful the humidity is here, whilst the others looked at the raw numbers and said “we deal with worse and complain less”

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

This is why Americans have such a bad worldwide reputation

[@trollerpilotxiv3079]

To be fair, I'd want my house to have a fireplace no matter where it's located

[@joeallen3388]

It's so andrew can go on his weekly anti British tirade while not knowing anything about Britain besides a few simpsons episodes.

[@Clagnuts]

@@joeallen3388 It's the fact that it's the Australian leading the anti-UK charge that cracks me up. Australia's greatest gift is being such a culturally irrelevant nothing-burger of a nation that nobody looks closely enough to realise what a backwards, endemically racist, broken 1970s throwback their society truly is. Imagine being given a climate that's sunny most of the year and turning that into a country where hate, anger and anxiety run at such levels that only Icelanders have a higher rate of dependence on SSRI medication. What a high ground from which to put others down. I followed this channel around the time of the Pogchamps chess stuff but between the slapping stuff (head trauma, ha ha ha), obsession with middle school level drama and now this I reckon I can manage happily without.

[@laytonhedges7314]

I feel that Fred dying off screen adds to the effect of how unpredictable and uncontrollable the war is. It let's the audience feel as shattered and suprised about Fred's death as Harry. Do you think Harry or Fred's family were lucky enough to see how he died? That's just how it is sometimes, makes no sense to expect that every single death should be shown on screen. That's as silly as an opinion that all movies must have a happy ending.

[@cosmo588]

As a potter head, I completely agree that hedwigs death and the lack of acknowledgement of it really fucking hurt🥲 I get it, they were in a war, and the movies can only go for so long, but come on, not one little scene?🙃 my little kid heart couldn’t take it

[@bobhanson1037]

He never had time to process it. It was suppose to hurt imo that the world was so shit he couldn't take time to really process it.

[@tomasberka9577]

Especially when you realise, in the books it was Snape who killed her - most likely so that she wouldnt blow harrys cover ... as a potterhead this whole conversation hurt 😂

[@cosmiceclipse3142]

Bro when I read harry potter twice and didnt even realize hedwig fucking died until the third time I read it

[@lnfanity]

I just reread the books a few months ago and I never realized how they pretty much killed most of the big people in very unremarkable ways. Like madeye died about the same way movie and book, Fred was alive in the book and then died in a random explosion suddenly. Tonks and Remus got half a page to say they got struck down in duels. The big one the movie messed up on to me was Peter, who died brutally in the books. I just think JK wasn’t the best at writing death scenes, or she was maybe going for shock. Either way still loved the books though.

[@yns000]

Im a pothead too

[@simeonemascarpone]

I'm European. Idk what hellhole Kaya lives in but. 1: We have AC. 2: We don't hate on you having AC, idk where that comes from. And 3: Our houses are way better isolated then US houses. You know, we use actual bricks to make a house. 😮 Btw, the UK is not Europe.

[@WyvernU]

UK is literally Europe and a lot of Europe don't have AC e.g Germany, Scandinavia, Eastern europe

[@simeonemascarpone]

@@WyvernU What i mean is the UK is not representative for the entirety of Europe. I should have been more specific. Point is they are different. They even drive on the other side of the road. And yeah a lot of people in different countries don't have AC, because they can't afford it. Not because they hate it and hate Americans for it that's ridiculous. The superiority thing Americans have bugs me so hard. Most of them have never even been to another country. There are way cooler and way more "free" countries out there.

[@WOUmurderstomps]

​@@simeonemascarponeit's ez to say as a European tho cuz you're country is so tiny you can take 2 steps and you'd be outside of it

[@simeonemascarpone]

@@WOUmurderstomps What is ez because of that? And being a big nation doesn't automatically make you great or better.

[@WOUmurderstomps]

@@simeonemascarpone yeah because their country is so big and diverse they don't need to visit anywhere else unlike many other countries on earth, also I never said it made you better

[@fobiaphobia]

im with andrew on this one in the harry potter debate, the offscreen deaths of those characters are not consequential to the movie overall greatness. Harry potter movie scenes are usually in the 3rd person POV of harry himself. if they died out of Harry pov, then of course it will be an off screen death. Most deaths that happened onscreen has all been witnessed by Harry(even through voldemorts visions).

[@XVIIProveidence]

The Game of Thrones argument doesn't really work too well when one season of GoT is longer than nearly the entire HP franchise

[@Edward-Not-Elric]

And is told from like thirty-two perspectives instead of just one, Harry's. Harry isn't omniscient. He couldn't have seen all of those deaths and having them out of his vision and control added a lot more weight to the moments and series as a whole.

[@rikuwatanabe8494]

I never really thought about how much of a scumbag Ron becomes starting from the 4th movie. He becomes that one friend that gets jealous whenever something goods happens to you and chooses mob mentality over actual friendship.

[@tony08966]

Kiryu?

[@swimmingseabass314]

@mdoublehb6069 I'd rather have a short and delicious life than a long and sad one.

[@devoid4661]

​@mdoublehb6069forgot to take your schizophrenia meds

[@bobhanson1037]

Ron's not a scumbag. He just gets jealous easy. It's a character flaw to show they're human and to cause drama.

[@savonlofton]

Calling Ron a scumbag for getting jealous in ONE movie, is crazy. He's not a scumbag, he's human. He literally has Harry's back shortly after

[@Siruelf]

Bad writing is when side characters don't have a dedicated death scene in a giant battle where we follow the main protags perspective.

[@Sir_Slimbread]

I'm with Andrew and Jackson. Not every character needs to die on screen. Some of the ones in Harry Potter that died offscreen really sucked, but Fred "dying" offscreen is impactful(it could've been fleshed out more, but his family being there helps it). If we saw everyone's battles in the final movie, it would've had to be 3 Parts instead of 2(I'm sure most fans would've preferred it to be 3).

[@Kattery_Alt]

Agree, the emotions still hit

[@Sir_Slimbread]

@Kattery_Alt Charlie's argument is kinda like saying, "Because I didn't see my die, it wasn't impactful". Of course, real-life emotions are different than emotions you feel from a movie, but still...

[@paincow3236]

Kaya being the only one with his camera on is the rarest thing we'll ever see

[@pointyheadYT]

Jackson's is on aswell. Look closer.

[@gregzc9395]

I think the death of remus and fred worked because it was a big battle and seeing them dead at the end was a shock and showed how big the stakes really were, plus they really weren't big characters . They could have showed they're death but I think just showing the corpse at the end of the battle worked better for those specific characters. i think moodys death could have been done better but moodys biggest problem in the film series was that his only big appearance was an impersonation we don't even know if he was what Crouch jr portrayed which made his death insignificant for me.

[@_b_e_a_n_s_]

i do wish fred's death was showed bc in the books he was blown up while laughing at George's joke. It shows how even at the end he was a happy guy laughing. idk personally i wanted to see it

[@jamesm2078]

The Harry Potter debate is the silliest thing ever.

[@AtomicTitan1954]

@mdoublehb6069i ate bacon this morning

[@xptaco2298]

​@MdoubleHB lol enjoy e.coli

[@MrBence16]

Charlie went all in with the most Redditor level argument in that Harry Potter debate. Those scenes worked great, we got to see Harry’s she’ll shocked reaction to all these deaths that he didn’t even see, we got the same shock as he did. It contributed a lot to Harry giving himself up, and made the battle even more brutal, cause characters important to Harry die and he wasn’t even there to maybe have the chance to help and save them. He feels even more powerless by it

[@kohuya1885]

Also sometimes people just die. No satisfying conclusion all wrapped up in a bow. No final words of wisdom, no sorry goodbyes, nothing. they just go, and you're left with whatever baggage you had with them. It adds a layer of tragedy and realism.

[@Grid_Grid]

@@kohuya1885 exactly my thoughts the whole time

[@Edward-Not-Elric]

I just had to skip the last 2 3rds of that section. It was just awful listening to Charlie call it lazy writing just because it has dramatic moments without everything being an action scene. He really should just stick to Mission Impossible and the like.

[@DrPancakesPhD]

For those who want the debate right away. 38:00

[@jordankasaur7340]

Patroen early access flex

[@KyroOuttaSpace]

Ty king

[@luluna5228]

@@jordankasaur7340 cuck lol

[@BigWrangler]

So you fast forwarded to that just in hopes of getting likes on a comment? Hasnt even been out for 30 mins

[@monolith_g]

@@BigWranglerI just wanna know about the argument. 🤷‍♂️ It doesn’t have to be like that. Plus it’s bc they have patreon early access so they already know when the argument takes place.

[@Yuki-bk2my]

Internet in the UK is more accessible than in the states, cell connection is spotty in the countryside but you won't have any issues in towns and cities.

[@disturbed1734]

Redditor tier argument coming from Charlie on this one.

[@Zxlok]

True

[@Pres100]

Naw I understand his point totally

[@AlchemyW]

His worst take so far. You only care about a characters death if you see them die? Weird.

[@bruhbruh2290]

@@Pres100 so you are that unimaginative you need to see every detail and a postmortem of every character that dies.

[@PrinceFloof]

@@AlchemyW He's full of bad takes, each one more atrocious than the last

[@mister-pinkman]

Even though Fred was technically killed off screen, it was still very emotional. They handled it about as well as they could have for an off screen death. It doesn’t ruin the film.

[@matheryn03]

I don't think I've ever heard you guys talk with such confidence about shit none of you understand than this episode.... Except for just about every other episode.

[@trollerpilotxiv3079]

If you don't like it, don't watch it

[@Thasky_]

True, Jackson the only one with any humility.

[@tc-fd1bb]

@@Thasky_ i only watch for Jackson ngl

[@leightonrud66]

Yep Jacksons always enjoyable to listen to the goofball. The rest can be crazy negative or have shit takes with no knowledge. Andrew is insufferable

[@lastingember2298]

Remember they had an argument about how often they have they’re cameras on and they more often than not don’t have their cameras on. Just always notice that lol

[@chrisgg80]

this was probably the worst episode yet, the arguing and soulless commentary is so damn boring

[@mhansenyaboi]

I have never once heard someone mention AC and Global Warming in the same sentence 😂

[@Bammus]

Very strong HP argument coming from Charlie considering he didn’t read the books

[@Mr.Misplay]

Believe it or not, there was a scene from the movie showing Fred's last moments. When Voldemort was speaking to everyone in their minds, it pans through several scenarios. That includes one of a Death Eater standing over Fred as he's fumbling around and trying to reach for what I presumed was his wand. So it did show a final moment.

[@gaarakabuto1]

How do you explain to an American that England is not the EU and the from Greece to the UK you will find more diverse building structures and legislation than you will find from Mexico to Canada and that for UK to build houses with heatwaves considered is completely nonsensical, unlike having ACs in most of the US is stupidly common sense considering the climate throughout the US almost requires ACs just like almost every house in Italy and Greece has both ACs and heating systems installed?

[@EverlastingAura1]

Love Charlie but sometimes it seems like if something isn’t structured like an anime, he doesn’t like it. I personally do not give a fuck about seeing most of those characters’ deaths, it’d be a waste of runtime. It’s a movie not a 500 episode anime where you deep dive into every character and get a huge dramatic death scene

[@chikken01]

Jackson's staring down at Kaya with his piercing eyes

[@painhurtssometimes2185]

Hell yea! Andrew defending Harry Potter is the best.. I agree I love the whole series and I’ve also read the books like 6 times. Not joking lol

[@DishyLemon]

"I watch them as action movies." Each Potter book is basically a whoddunit. They're mysteries.

[@iturtle2439]

I love how Andrew wears sunglasses inside yet feels confident enough to judge other people, he’s so cool

[@woolieraxis714]

He also has had them off multiple times in the past lol

[@im_lost9355]

Hes said in past episodes that his eyes are really fuckin sensitive so he wears the glasses when using his computer

[@timdaly240]

Saving this for the drive to work Monday Morning. Thank you guys so much for being able to do these. I used to watch these for just charlie tbh, but kaya and Jackson and Andrew have all really grown on me. Keep up the amazing work!

[@rexyboii278]

I think Charlie was trolling this episode he was smiling the whole time 😂😂😂😂

[@sketcharmslong6289]

Toad in the hole is fucking brilliant

[@XVIIProveidence]

Was thinking that, the description they gave is so god damn harsh 😂

[@sketcharmslong6289]

@@XVIIProveidence these boys often speak directly out of their arse 😂

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@tomwilliam7372 If we were to describe American food it wouldn't even sound fit for human consumption

[@trollerpilotxiv3079]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 Why are we making fun of British and American food when we could be making fun of Scandinavian and East Asian food?

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@trollerpilotxiv3079 Because they actually have good food

[@callumsmith7404]

Black pudding is an odd thing because on paper, is sounds absolutely vile, but what you’re supposed to do is cut it into slices then fry it and it’s genuinely quite nice

[@soap9277]

The boys have their "biggest argument yet" like every other week. Can you guys just have a small-scale argument for once?

[@Jombo1]

I agree with Kaya, every death scene in any movie needs a Mortal Kombat X-ray slow motion breakdown.

[@saradasdad6179]

I like how Kaya became god for a few seconds.

[@trollerpilotxiv3079]

He had to summon his clone to help reinforce his point

[@Toxin___InterHalfer]

Like Gandalf when he says something like "I'm not just a cheap magician Bilbo Baggins"

[@SWISS-1337]

Guess I am a US citizen then, in the UK with my ac unit blasting all day. Also have fttp 500 Mbps down 80 up and born here so...

[@ismayonnaiseaninstrument8700]

Came to give a shoutout for a british gaming history youtuber, Neverknowsbest who apparently got his channel auto-nuked by KZbin. No strikes, just straight video deletion and second channel deletion. Hoping Charlie sees this and looks into it. That being said, feels like the Redditpocalyse is just another dumpster fire as the old Internet continues to die and gets replaced with something more saccharine and depressing.

[@Evanz111]

Damn, upvoting for awareness, it’s horrible to think that can happen to someone’s source of income

[@StephLillibet]

Jesus, that's horrible!! How can KZbin do that!! Hope it gets sorted and his channel gets back!!

[@SomeRandomAustralian]

🫡

[@Kramarth]

Charlie looks so happy again

[@stinkyman2779]

@mdoublehb6069 ok

[@pumpkinpiesoupcat]

@MdoubleHB "shortened life span guaranteed" good, i want to fucking die

[@arsena5209]

​@mdoublehb6069sorry mate I ain't a freak looking to become diseased from eating raw food, you have fun with that tho

[@Evanz111]

People going on about vegetarianism but I’m just here to say thanks for the funny comment, it made me smile the same way Charlie is

[@Aluxschmander]

@MdoubleHB imagine being weak because you get no protein

[@DerWaidmann_]

I've been listening to the earlier episodes with guests and such and coming back to the current episodes they seem so much more cynical and bitter

[@gmtfender]

Kaya rubbing off on the rest of them.

[@SomeRandomAustralian]

Honestly yeah that’s something I’ve been thinking about for a while now, the “we’ve struck gold” episode (293?) really cemented what you’re saying for me. I feel like Kaya’s saved the boys from getting into some heated arguments ironically enough.

[@dg3126]

7 seconds in and can confirm it's their biggest argument yet.

[@massive_dick_gaming]

the intro hasnt even ended what

[@VOXivero]

​@@massive_dick_gamingI think they meant at the timestamp 38:02

[@lumonox]

Damn the other bot stole ur comment and has more likes now

[@therealjesusthelord]

yeah the intro music really proves that this is in fact their biggest argument every

[@massive_dick_gaming]

@@lumonox bruh im not a bot

[@adamgibson3011]

It is an incredibly american thing listing of a bunch of random, obscure "british" dishes that 95% of people have never heard of

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

Exactly lmao it's so annoying

[@trollerpilotxiv3079]

At least we're not self-conscious about it. We eat stuff like grilled alligator and we're proud of it.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@trollerpilotxiv3079 I doubt that like 99% of America eats that

[@trollerpilotxiv3079]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 I could say the same thing about Spotted Dick

[@im_lost9355]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 Americans with taste eat that

[@Joeumadd]

Being from Florida 30C is a nice cool day for summer, even fall and spring

[@j.undefined1666]

Jackson, try Beef Wellington, Shepards Pie, and Welsh Cawl. They're good examples of British cuisine.

[@trollerpilotxiv3079]

Call a call to Cawl

[@TheDGBgamers]

I really don't get Charlie's point. I understand not liking off-screen deaths when there's no emotional weight attached to it, but as Andrew and Jackson said, you see Fred's family mourning his death. At that point I don't really care whether I saw him die or not.

[@Fabio-bu9bp]

Petition for Jackson to make his own channel

[@Blazloch]

He already does he just doesn't post to it alot

[@MrBad993]

Kaya once again misrepresenting environmental issues. A/C units aren't "causing global warming", they're extremely energy inefficient, and are being replaced by heat pumps which are efficient and keep interiors cooler or warmer depending on the season. Nobody suggested to "get rid of your AC and die". Energy inefficiency is a contributing factor to climate change, and things like replacing conditioners with heat pumps is a good thing.

[@failedabortion1894]

'A/C units aren't "causing global warming", they're extremely energy inefficient' 'Energy inefficiency is a contributing factor to climate change' Climate activists trying not to contradict themselves challenge (100% impossible)

[@Nobody11Nobody]

I have never been more surprised in my life, to NOT see everyone in the comments talking about how you DO see Fred die on screen in the movie... They literally show it when Voldemort calls for the ceasefire. So weird to see such a long passionate debate when none of them care or know anything about Harry Potter haha. Was fun to listen to though.

[@Evanz111]

“If you live in England, tell us why” - because I’d rather put up with some hot temperatures than get shot and be unable to afford to even go to a hospital because even the ambulance cost will be $2000 and I’ll have to turn down life saving surgery because my family can’t afford it.

[@FireHydrantForeheadNyquil]

Blimey m8 least I dont get shot dewin maffs in shkewel, I only pulled one knoif out me chest this week 💂‍♂️💂‍♂️

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

​@@FireHydrantForeheadNyquilI don't see any mass knife killings in school though

[@FireHydrantForeheadNyquil]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 dies inside school😰 / dies outside school😎👍

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@bongusthegreat3602 Wow three people dying in knife attacks vs 20+ in mass shootings

[@FireHydrantForeheadNyquil]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 You know the US statute defines a mass shooting as 3 or more right? Also its alot more than 3 in the UK. Banning guns didnt lower violent crime or homicides in the UK, Australia, France and recently Canada. People still get guns in the UK, theres nothing stopping someone from taking 80 people with a car like in france or even the bataclan attacks where guns were banned but still got through. The state with the most school shootings is California and schools dont even have a basic level of security in the US but you wanna jump to conclusions and take away the ability to protect my family at home where children spend the most time and where the vast majorty of violent crime happens?

[@JackieChannibal]

1:06:46 Kaya became the reddit voice of god for sec there 😂 Edit: he did it a couple times

[@stevenshatswell53]

Bro called Snape the "potions guy", lol. He loses on that fact alone. How do you not know the most pivotal side character? He's basically a main character.

[@YvesCFC]

Andrew's blatant bias against England is baffling, your whole nation's cuisine is either covered in grease and/or sugar. I remember when he tried a Turkish drink that he hated because it was bland and Kaya drilled him down to him ultimately admitting it wasn't laced with sugar. Forgot that burgers were an American dish, except it isn't so what's a genuine American dish that they can say originates from the US?

[@osoeasy5693]

Mad? 😢 Teeth crooked? 😮 No AC? 😅

[@EverlastingAura1]

How mad online are you rn?

[@YvesCFC]

@@osoeasy5693 To be fair I'd absolutely love some AC right now!

[@salame2693]

@@EverlastingAura1 can we really blame him? The podcast has devolved into them just saying stupid takes with no idea what they're talking about

[@plasma7819]

Talking about cuisine while eating beans on toast is fucking absurd

[@Bullitthiphop]

If Jackson is reading, can you please try yorkshire pudding and toad in the hole. They are genuinely great. Scotch eggs and cornish pastys are decent.

[@FrankDickerstein]

I didn't know toad in the hole was English. I've had that a lot when I was a kid and my parents are Black and Panamanian and we lived in San Diego.

[@drsipp407]

Brit bongs be giving their food the least appetizing names like “spotted dick” and “toad in the hole”

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@drsipp407 Yankees be getting shot outside of their local Walmart yet still don't understand that it's an issue.

[@trollerpilotxiv3079]

Toad in the Hole actually sounds appetizing from its description, it just really needs a better name.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@trollerpilotxiv3079 Wow something we can agree on

[@gluten_free_cabbage]

Listening to their wild misconceptions about the UK and them describing the food without knowing what it is is funny to me

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

They have no know about anything they ever discuss

[@joeallen3388]

Them saying other cultures food doesn't count when the US has pretty much no original food.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@joeallen3388 Exactly. It's so ridiculous

[@qthestruggler2715]

To Jackson’s credit. Overseas McDonald’s is way better than American McDonald’s. Can confirm. It’s because other countries don’t put all the chemical bullshit in their food that we put in ours.

[@theimperiol3705]

I am british and for the cuisine we have a few great curries for example the Balti.

[@magicalhalfman4498]

16:47 "You guys eat like Harry Potter characters," it's almost as if Harry Potter took place in Europe lol

[@conorduffield6051]

Jesus get a representative from the UK on there haha, the Internet over here is good for the vast majority of people (public wifi is pretty bad though). Most people dont eat spotted dick and jellied eels, we eat a lot of other countries cuisine most of the time. And most of the UK outside of London is great, jacksons really painting a bad and unrealistic picture of the UK 🤣

[@TheGodEmperorOfMankind_]

In this episode of the boys talk about stuff they straight up have no idea about

[@DuffyLuffyScruffy]

Wow these comments are getting more original such as "my farts are better than charlies" or "my video is better than Charlie's" (Also these top commenters names are crazy)

[@SlantTrimreal]

My video is worse than Charles

[@fuucaran]

Can we all appreciate the effort Charlie puts inside us?

[@Irondragon1945]

My drug problem is better than Charlie Sheen's

[@elbennoo]

I just released some new heat🔥 on my paige!😂😂😂😢😢😢😮😊❤

[@paula-zzz]

as a german: i don’t know where kya lived, but modern houses are insulated pretty well because of the winters here, so in summer if you watch out you can keep the heat out pretty well. it helps to open the windows in the evening when it’s cooler or better yet in the early morning cause that’s the coldest time of day and don’t let any sun in during the day! just the light of the sun will heat up rooms like crazy

[@Kevin-if6vp]

Its a war. Deaths will happen and the reader/viewer should know that there is a possibility for death. Remus and tonks are shows holding hands moments before the start of the battle. Shortly before or after that, Fred and george are shown up on the castle as well. They give homage to the characters in the aftermath and in nevilles speech. Its not friday the 13th lmao.

[@vulkan4108]

5:30 I'm an European and no one I know ever made that point lmao

[@chiefbeef9905]

5:01 never heard anyone say that hot countries should get rid of their AC units, its just that here in the UK, its usually only this unbearably hot for like 1 week of the year, which isnt really worth spending like £1k on an AC unit. Its usually around 20°C in the summer, not nearly 30 and unbelievably humid.

[@Yuki-bk2my]

Yeah it gets to like 30 but the humidity is what makes it so bad.

[@Evanz111]

Yeah I’ve heard loads of America versus UK arguments and I’ve never once heard people claim they should get rid of their AC units because global warming.

[@kayramah2531]

I hate how they say Europe when really they're actually only talking about the UK

[@Evanz111]

@@kayramah2531 Yeah, that bugged me even though I only live in the UK. The rest of the continent has so much independent and valuable culture that it shouldn’t just be lumped in with us.

[@Yuki-bk2my]

@Evanz111 they don't you only think that because you only know your culture

[@bigtonithegreatjamboni9850]

Gotta love this hour and a half long podcast with ad breaks every two minutes.

[@KeimaxGamer]

I swear I get brainrot listening to some of Kaya's arguements. The people he's upset about (the ones that complain about AC etc.), are just terminally online they aren't normal. Not all of us are like this 😂😂

[@Evanz111]

Complain about AC? What was his argument sorry?

[@dorian4191]

​@@Evanz111he made fun of people that say everyone should get rid of AC because it harms the environment

[@Wicked061]

You think 85 degress is hot? Id like to see any of you boys try roofing for a day. I get on roofs where it gets up to 130-140.(farenheit) It gets hotter, but a thermometer breaks at around around 135-140

[@ggmu5129]

@@Wicked061its not the heat that’s unbearable its the humidity i shower atleast twice a day because the sweat sticks it’s disgusting

[@Evanz111]

@@Wicked061 I massively respect that, but it is largely about familiarity. An Eskimo would struggle just as much in a 15C room too.

[@geediddi6007]

Living in the UK, and having worked in both mobile and broadband tech, I can say with confidence that a large majority of buildings in the UK are not equipped to have wifi or mobile signal work very well. With them being old, the materials used to build them were from a time before any kind of signals related to either existed, which resulted in materials being used that signal tends to have difficulty travelling through, which is why more modern properties have better wifi coverage. Gigabit internet is also not quite as widespread as other countries

[@arsena5209]

that's interesting, I just assumed that's just how things are because here in Poland, at least where I live, if you go a bit further into rural areas the internet connection also likes to fail even if it's a locality close to a city it just gets intercepted by trees and houses n shit

[@geediddi6007]

@Arsena Tbf that isn't wrong either. Rural areas and cities can both be a double edged sword for opposite reasons. Trees, buildings, even hilly terrain can affect signal

[@GravitonAllNightLong]

Aww it's honestly cute how Charlie and Andrew both get offended when Jackson calls them out for being losers who don't do anything with their life besides make videos. Andrew immediately with the silence then a "yEaH sOuNDs GoOd" cause he doesn't want to face being a puddy cat

[@cabbagelover27]

?

[@UltimatumDastric]

Lol fucking what?

[@SomeRandomAustralian]

Love the podcast but it honestly gets annoying with Andrews ego sometimes and what feels like a regular attack on Jackson from Charlie and/or Andrew. Man that AC Odyssey argument genuinely made me mad which is kinda sad ngl but fuuuuck Charlie and Andrew love to run and circles and not let Jackson enjoy life the way he wants to.

[@grelkie]

Timestamp please

[@Andy-rv9wm]

So glad Jackson calls them out on this, only thing worse would be if Charlie or Andrew made their living off the backs of their infinitely more successful and hard working friends. Oh wait.

[@kdjdkdjdiejejehdirj]

Not sitting through an hour in a half for moist to call him a goober that being the worst argument they've ever had 😂

[@KayQuandoTV]

I am a realtor from South Carolina, and, at least, in my state law does not require that you disclose any information about crimes that have occurred at a particular residence.

[@adog22022]

Uk tempreture is very different because its humid

[@FeiFongWang]

You guys would not survive in Miami

[@chronica6457]

@@FeiFongWang And you guys would not survive in Sweden.

[@Evanz111]

@@FeiFongWang Probably not, but people in Miami wouldn’t survive here in the winter either lmao

[@FeiFongWang]

@@Evanz111 that is absolutely true

[@g1sunstreaker584]

The Transformers/MLP crossover comics were genuinely fantastic. I enjoyed them deeply, great writing.

[@hognof]

UK homes are definitely built insulated, that's literally the problem in heat waves lmao

[@hognof]

also, toad in the hole fucking slaps

[@ghoulax]

Charlie's such a jubilant guy smiling while arguing. Such a goofball

[@TheSpeedOfVideo]

So weird hearing Jackson talking about visiting towns ten minutes away from me lol

[@Glensrep]

The thing is though it’s a movie about Harry Potter where we follow him not the other characters, so if he doesn’t see them die (although he does see Fred die in the book) they don’t have to show them die on screen. We are hearing about their deaths at the same time as Harry so you feel the impact of the death at the same time as harry does

[@angelbankaii1350]

Im with Andrew on this, it's a huge war filled finale focused on the main characters , side characters getting killed off screen doesn't change the movie that much just bc they had 1-2 semi important moments, when they are easily overshadowed by other actual important characters

[@raging100]

Why the hate on europe? We do have AC's lol :') Europe is more than germany and spain. But that's impossible to comprehend as a twitch streamer

[@sidewayzclipz]

Bro can y'all please turn your cameras on 💀😂