THE OFFSPRING talks for the first time about what happened with PETE PARADA (Subt español)

[@paincalledliving]

Conformity. The new punk rock.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

"Very Cool"

[@badlaamaurukehu]

This makes me blink 182

[@paulewog857]

Sad

[@JuniorOnDrums]

Health crisis, not political or conformity.

[@korihayes3477]

Ugh, don't be so fkn naive​@@JuniorOnDrums

[@freesmoke8088]

Unable versus unwilling are two very different things. I like how they failed to mention that he has Guillain-Barré syndrome. Dudes are giving major “wrong side of history “vibes.

[@FernandoMartinez-pv1id]

Pete Parada has been signed by Timcast Records and his new song is now released on their KZbin Channel.

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id oh ok that makes everything better.

[@FernandoMartinez-pv1id]

@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again it's a start. He plans to make more with them as time goes on.

[@ralphholiman7401]

Knowing what we know now, it sounds like Parada was 1. the only non-conformist in the band, and 2. the smartest person in the band. Everyone in that band now knows what they would have done if they had lived in Nazi Germany in the 30's and 40's. Only Parada should be proud of what that thing is.

[@travisv6408]

​@@ralphholiman7401Pete was the only real punk rocker in that band. Since that happened I stopped going to their concerts and listening to their music.

[@isturbo1984]

you fired your friend and fellow band mate because of his disability. lets call a rose a rose.

[@FernandoMartinez-pv1id]

Pete Parada has been signed by Timcast Records and his new song is now released on their KZbin Channel.

[@kompletek9md]

So punk rock to worship the machine. Unbelievable..

[@ajchilds2163]

They were not his friend or they would say it was his doctor that told him not to take the jab not say he was unwilling.

[@speedyd8150]

Fuck The Offspring. That's coming from someone who's been a fan since the 90s.

[@hugh-jasole]

Yep same here. Smash was many of our first albums. Sad whats happened to these guys.

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas? You make no sense.

[@ALightOn]

Same. Total losers.

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@ALightOn Lol you don't make any sense

[@ALightOn]

@@Alex-Defatte Do you want me to draw it with crayons so it makes sense to you?

[@marcreno893]

It’s so punk rock to kick a guy out of the band after 14 years for not taking government mandated experimental medicine 🤘 Next hit song should be about how more money is more important than friendships or standing for something you believe in

[@TheologyUnleashed]

Nailed it

[@ericcarney3121]

If anyone wants to hear Pete's side, he did an interview with Tim Pool on his Tim Pool Channel yesterday (03-03-2023). It's a great listen.

[@Cakehunter]

NOTHING SAYS PUNK ROCK LIKE DOING WHAT THE MACHINE TELLS YOU TO DO. Way to stand up to authority Offspring 🙄 Shame on you!

[@Thirteen31Music]

Since when have The Offspring been required to “stand up to authority”? Thats such a dumb childish comment to make. They’re a band. They make their money touring and being unvaccinated impacts their ability to do that smoothly.

[@fbeegle]

Yeah what a buncha tools

[@leviwallace9647]

Rage For The Machine

[@mmtot]

Dexter should remove the anarchy decal from the tail of his Jet and replace it with a Pfizer flag.

[@moriordan85]

@@leviwallace9647 Thank you I'll do what you tell me Thank you I'll do what you tell me SHEEP ON PARADE

[@bb-ql3vm]

Pete💪💪💪✊✊

[@tommygunnn84]

Lol this one aged well.

[@kevindie]

*_The Governmental Offspring! Hell yeah! Rock on, comrades!_*

[@Facelessman42001]

You guys Aren't Fighting the Machine. You've Bowed Down to Kiss the Machine's Ass!!! Your music helped me get through a horrible divorce, so at least I have Those Good Times to remember the Original "Offspring" how they used to think. Your first 4 albums are FanFuckingtastic!! R.I.P. Offspring. I dedicated "Gone Away" to my Best Friend Tom P. when he died back in 1997. Tom had bought that album for me when it first came out. Those were the Best Days of my Life.

[@zeezlebops]

based

[@Nothing-q7w]

Offspring goes down in the dark ages of history as turncoats and sellouts (misinformed and permanently damaged from the unspeakable magic potion) as Pete rises up with Timcast in their top iTunes song, called: Only Ever Wanted.

[@Drakemiser]

Yea. Shit music as well. I say this not to humor Pete;I really mean this: the only part of that band that was solid was the drumming. I was even willing to give give them the benefit of the doubt until I heard them right here. These guys suck. I wonder when the time will come when these two turn on each other for a buck. Nothing says punk like assassinating your friend for the gov. These guys will have theirs someday.

[@organicwins91]

Including killswitch engage. Really sad.

[@pimtool9351]

facts

[@jayreis9963]

​@UserTE9 Aww man what did Killswitch Engage do? Something equally as shitty?

[@hardkorekandykid666]

All the people I grew up on in the punk/metal world are becoming establishment shills. So sad...

[@GarrettsGear]

They are the OTHER definition of "punks"

[@Lokana]

Then you say, "Hey, we still really want you in the band, but we're going to get a temporary fill in for tours while the mandate is in place."

[@danielblaskowitz3412]

I agree with this one!

[@michaelknight2897]

The issue is this. The bad is a bunch of ZEALOTS, Progressive ZEALOTS. The vaccine shot became a form of communion for Progressives.

[@postilaatikko7384]

That's just too much outside of the box thinking for a guy with a PhD

[@NotownStunna]

Seems like it was a really easy decision for them, support their longtime friend and bandmate or do what the government tells you to continue to make money, and they chose the latter. These dudes are empty fascist shells of their former selves.

[@FernandoMartinez-pv1id]

Pete Parada has been signed by Timcast Records and his new song is now released on their KZbin Channel.

[@JavierPwns]

They were always like this, their character is just now showing

[@mbarry7398]

@@JavierPwns 10000%

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@CW-CardboardBaseball]

@@Alex-Defatte let their fans down all over the globe by removing Pete!

[@JSledge825]

You could have just said “well we’re not touring then on behalf of our friend.” And venues would have caved and let you play anyway. Instead you fired your long time friend and coworker for a little more money. Bruh…I would have canceled for less stuff just for my friend. These guys aren’t punk rock anymore. Just another “follow the rules” kind of group. Punk Rock is dead and so political now.

[@ClownWorldSwitzerland]

Pete had natural immunity ... Offspring is so Punk Rock :(

[@SimBol1216]

"Natural immunity" to COVID is a myth.

[@fishsizzle83]

Two-and-a-half years later how do you feel about that sell out

[@lizbeth4805]

How can one of my favorite and influential 90’s punk bands have failed so miserably to be AWAKE in the light of conformity and control…not wiser just OLDER☹️

[@bul166]

Love ya Pete! Rock on!....... Offspring, you should've kept your bandmate & FRIEND! C'mon now!

[@FernandoMartinez-pv1id]

Pete Parada has been signed by Timcast Records and his new song is now released on their KZbin Channel.

[@bul166]

@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id Cool! Thank you brother 👍

[@FernandoMartinez-pv1id]

@@bul166 tried to link the video but KZbin hates me and him.

[@tomfair8999]

Sad, punk rockers were against the machine not mindless followers

[@speedyd8150]

I'm really surprised they didn't release a song called "pretty fly for a vaxxed guy" for propaganda purposes.

[@Drakemiser]

Ha! They did! I read somewhere that they changed the chorus of one of their shit songs to “ get the jab” or something like that. You called it! These guys are the epitome of sellouts. Amd what’s worse they are people who would sell out their friend. Disgusting.

[@donniet685]

They did do something similar did they not?

[@foxriverpwc4723]

Disastrous to a whole tour = When your drummer's heart blows up in Bogota and you blame it on "10 different drugs in his system".

[@lucashaze6773]

They betrayed their friend of 14 years for profit, shameless !

[@029132]

What sucks about this situation is that you guys did this for a drug that was pretty useless.

[@bingbongead]

Wow, I just lost a whole lot of respect for them.

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@dudebrodude4388]

I'm sure they are heartbroken

[@carsinruin6102]

Dang, this makes it really hard to like these guys now.

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@carsinruin6102]

@@Alex-Defatte because they chose to ditch a friend by bending the knee to government and the pursuit of money.

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@carsinruin6102 No dude. Think bigger. They have money. It's about not letting down their fans abroad. You don't release an album and then not go on tour. It's also a census for all governments 'bending the knee' to be vaccinated. You can't comprehend because your job doesn't mandate you to fly. Business is just business. Even if Pete is sour about it, he at least understands why.

[@carsinruin6102]

@@Alex-Defatte I think Grandpa Rick would agree with me 😎

[@ugandahater]

The Offspring were never punk rock. They were a good rock band definitely, but not punk. My favorite band when I was a kid. A shame how much has changed

[@Alex-Defatte]

They were and still are certainly punk despite however many people like your comment.

[@c.j.2262]

Right! I love them in the 90s! And was a fan till a few years ago. They caved to the Establishment status mentality! Weak and pathetic! Judge a person on the character with the amount of pressure they take and they lost! I'm out! 🖕

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@c.j.2262 So you'll rebel against a rock band but not the actual system? Seems easier to talk smack than go out and actually do something about the infringements of our rights aye mate. Have a nice life lazy bones.

[@c.j.2262]

@@Alex-Defatte Pfffff.... Ok!😂 You have me all figured out! Good for you! 😂✌️

[@mattdegnan2989]

Let's Go Brandon!

[@emanuelrock0667]

Dexter es pro-farmacéuticas. Una gran banda que lo escuchaba en la adolescencia y ahora se hecha a perder. Se fue uno de los primeros baterista, el bajista y ahora despiden a este. The Offspring no es punk, eso esta claro. Son pro-sistema.

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@postilaatikko7384]

@@Alex-Defatte its not that simple, they seem to be lying about the need of being vaccinated and also they could have gotten a replacing drummer for the places that needed vax if there ever was one. Seems like they just couldnt handle his decision and made clowns of themselves after the truth came out how they treat a band member

[@mermeladaa35]

pero the offspring a pesar de haber iniciando haciendo punk en ningún momento dijeron ir en contra de las industrias farmacéuticas realmente.

[@NYPATRIOTBX]

@@mermeladaa35your right, and just like Green Day and RATM, it became convenient not to go against the establishment when they saw dollar signs. Sellouts, the lot of them.

[@legalzero1]

So wrong in my opinion. It's an absolute shame, a shambles. Dave and the Food too. New album called Comply or your fired. So many celebrities have became the right arm of the machine they were initially supposed opposed to. Ow the shame, you dirty bistros! Ignorance is no excuse according to the NewBorg trials.

[@deansheard]

How very punk rock of you, bending to the man

[@riffsnreviews]

Musicians filling in on tours is a very very common thing, this idea never came to anyone's mind ? It would be weird as The Offspring, has had and still has touring members, notably a CURRENT touring drummer that is not an official member, so why fire the dude ? Doesn't make any sense. Josh is literally replacing Pete on tour currently and is only a touring member, so again why fire Pete ? As he was replaced with a touring guy for tours !

[@bromike]

Pete Parada > offspring

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@bromike]

@@Alex-Defatte lol 😂

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@bromike Well that's all that happened between them and Pete. You think just because people agree with you, you're right? You're not a real Offspring fan. Just another youtube commenter trying to get 'likes' saying what other people are saying 🤣

[@bromike]

@@Alex-Defatte ok 👌🏻 what happened to foo fighters drummer? He held out taking the poison ☠️ until very late , then the band pressure him and he gave in and took the safe and effective 💀. Now where is he? You don’t know who i am.

[@SeanTheDomesticTerrorist]

@@Alex-Defatte and showing themselves to be morally corrupt clowns doesn't let down their fans?

[@adammontelo5613]

Rage on behalf of the machine

[@davehart9972]

Offspring sold out. Pathetic.

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@forbushmike2482]

Wow. What happened to punk rock???

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@donniet685]

The covid era exposed it for what it is. Another arm of big government propaganda.

[@trynagetbanned8483]

​@@Alex-Defatte Because they bailed on their guy for not bending the knee. Punk used to be about fighting the power. Now it's just vote for bigger government and do what they tell you.

[@j_jones_]

These big pharma, pro-government fascists are so brave

[@willl7780]

exactly....shit is just pathetic

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@alahad]

backstabbing establishment machine obedient snakes

[@waynemartin7574]

D-bags.. the mandates didn't affect any offspring show and these guys know it

[@b.l.5437]

I lost all the respect i had for them and they lost a fan who was one since americana came out

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@nonatobk]

@@Alex-Defatte That's a lie, they just order in line. Pete's version for what happend kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIbQn2qlarV8f5I

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@nonatobk Pete's version lol It's not about what Pete did for The Offspring, it's about what he can still do for them. Just because of Pete, the entire rest of the band, all the truck drivers and roadies are going to lose their livelihoods because of one man? No. The show must go on. They just wanted to play overseas. They didn't let down their fans abroad. We only have one life and the Offspring is literally all about living only for the day. That's life. Eat it.

[@willl7780]

TOOLS....

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@Infinite.Worldz]

Man, super punk rock to fire your friend/band mate of 14 years because they wouldn't get a vaccination or couldn't. I'm never listening to you again.

[@robertobartolom7385]

I guess ya…. “Gotta keep ‘em separated”

[@eddied.5156]

"Punk's not dead it just deserves to die when it becomes another stale cartoon...."

[@Joe-ui3nr]

So not a “punk” move. Pete is an amazing drummer. So much for taking a stand against the machine, guys, huh?

[@devilsoffspring5519]

They didn't kill him, they had to get a replacement so they could tour...

[@willl7780]

@@devilsoffspring5519 wow...thats so punk....

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@willl7780 Not letting down your fans in other countries is punk

[@donniet685]

@@Alex-Defatte Get back to the pharm.

[@thereisnopandemic]

This Corporate Band proved they are not a Antiestablishment Band, bunch posers. Nickleback is more hardcore than these tools.

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@eilahtan1623]

And still don't want to talk about Greg k ? 😒

[@Liquid-Ben]

I really dislike them now.

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@Liquid-Ben]

@@Alex-Defatte They let a lot of overseas fans down, including me.

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@Liquid-Ben You didn't go to the show? They literally made the toughest decision just for you to blow them off. You're not a fan, you're just some youtube commenter.

[@Liquid-Ben]

@@Alex-Defatte They never toured in my country but I genuinely did like them and would've happily attended a concert. They fired their drummer for being unvaxed, which is weak. The pathetic part is they knew he has Guillain-Barré Syndrome and it puts him at greater risk for side effects but didn't care.

[@donniet685]

Not as much as I do. I hate the LOSERS!

[@sonicjet7759]

Why did the Offspring fire Greg K? Their original bassists was important to the band, I mean okay so Pete Parada’s issue was over the Covid related health problem but this band needs to answer for why they fired Greg K who was basically a part of the Offspring’s history

[@mowtoegee7049]

So was Ron Welty! I think fame and money just got to Dexters head

[@INVESTIMENTOLUCRATIVO]

WTF!!!!!!🤔🤦‍♀ que estupido argumento!!

[@emanuelrock0667]

Dexter es pro-farmacéuticas. Una gran banda que lo escuchaba en la adolescencia y ahora se hecha a perder. La verdad no los volvería a ver en vivo, ya tengo mis recuerdos.

[@dc8656]

They are bastards for dissing their friend and band mate over money

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@postilaatikko7384]

@@Alex-Defatte i was a fan overseas but i dont want them to come here anymore at least before they apologize for the drummer and all other people too

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@postilaatikko7384 Trust me no one cares what you think.

[@stevenbacon-cheddar9914]

Do what the government says, so punk rock😂

[@ElmosTavern]

What a joke they turned out to be

[@FedoraNation]

And still no word on Greg K?

[@devilsoffspring5519]

No kidding, whatever happened to him? What's he doing these days? We miss Greg, he's an OG O-Dude!

[@7simino]

When the question is on Pete, they don't talk about Greg... I'm also sad, what happened between guys (I read that maybe the boys are on trial for some rights :O :( ) but noone says, what really happened. :(

[@Thirteen31Music]

There is an ongoing legal battle between them and Greg which is why they don’t talk about it - it could have an impact.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

@@Thirteen31Music That sucks, they're all multimillionaires and should just enjoy it.

[@Thirteen31Music]

@@devilsoffspring5519 it sucks that its turned out this way but I guess what happens when you’re in a band that long. My guess is that the disagreement stemmed from Greg not wanting to tour as much and Dexter and Noodles eventually decided to remove hum so they could continue playing snd touring. Thats not fact/verified just my theory.

[@mattchu42069]

He has a medical condition... Yea ur right it wasn't possible... Offspring sucks now anyways 😂😂

[@Igorgoat]

Yeah, ok, so why isn't he back in the band now...

[@karolinabednarikova1766]

I am so dissapointed... Dexter and Noodles, I've been listening to The Offspring since I was a teenager. What you did to Pete is just nasty. You are not punkrock anymore... Bye bye...

[@dustinpayne2]

Ridiculous. Offspring should be ashamed.

[@emadbagheri]

this aged well!

[@RZPMKKTEAM]

I love the band really do but what they do to Pete was just so wrong, they knew he got a decease and he was unable To vaccine so they should support him, it's OK if they was looking to get a tour but also can replaced him just for a while and be back with him, I really loved all the energy Pete put on every single song he was just a pure beauty soul... Feel the same love as ron Welty time and Pete parada as well 😊

[@codyshea3426]

This aged well. Pretty punk rock bros

[@nickmandleberg]

Compare these clowns to Johnny Lydon ffs...

[@donniet685]

Long live Ian Brown

[@chimpooey9083]

Posers gonna pose... I hope my hair looks like that when I'm 60.

[@ajchilds2163]

He couldnt get the jab with order from his doctor

[@gianmarcodeluca6912]

I don't really understand all the hate, it Is not the 90s anymore and they look for tours and playing live shows, It probably would have been different if It happened back then. Also, you think It makes you punk to have a member of your band not vaccinated during a pandemic? It's just not very clever to me.

[@trynagetbanned8483]

Spoken like a true branwashed communist.

[@a_legitimate_salvage]

How you treated him was a personal decision. What frauds.

[@trynagetbanned8483]

Pete was fired for being punk rock and not bending the knee.

[@bigskyab]

Never did like these women

[@GrimMetropolis]

boo these 2 fools...

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@bobwire2414]

@@Alex-Defatte How many times did you copy and paste this lame response, parrot boy?

[@XxSEETH3RxX]

He wronged

[@shadowcolorado3668]

Establishment shills. Makes me want to puke. Absolutely disgusting.

[@guaccamoleyman]

🤮

[@dantheman1534]

dexter.....It was strictly business ..... ( line in Taken by the sex traffiker). Kinda similar, no?

[@aslkdjfzxcv9779]

bad look.

[@Alex-Defatte]

What because they didn't want to let down their fans overseas?

[@joshualindquist2254]

Pretty fly for a white guy was a racist song.

[@bingbongead]

Bit ridiculous 😂

[@postilaatikko7384]

Joshua is right. I didn't note this when i was young but later on i've been thinking how they actually made the skin color a thing there. Also pushing the agenda where whiteness can be insulted and blackness not.

[@postilaatikko7384]

Pretty much a stupid band and this came very clear 2021-2022

[@albertoajedrez5851]

:(

[@morgan4212]

Your not listening to what their saying, they said they couldn't travel with someone who wasn't vaccinated, it wasn't their decision

[@krissymarklewis1793]

I got offered a free ticket to see them the other night in Birmingham the other night but managed to break my arm so didn't wanna risk it, a shame as I've seen vids from the show and they killed it....or smashed it so to speak ha.

[@zeezlebops]

"wasserman" explains a lot

[@chraschi]

Why should one unvaccinated person but everyone else in risk? Where is the scientific evidence for that claim?

[@Mr.G626]

rage for the machine

[@Alex-Defatte]

It's sad that people will rebel against a rock band but not the system itself.

[@goodmorningvenezuela6329]

Millions of people where forced to walk away from their careers because they refused to take experimental injections. What was your sacrifice?

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@goodmorningvenezuela6329 My restaurant shut down too. I was just making an observation. I thought my post was ruminative. Sorry I offended you.

[@goodmorningvenezuela6329]

@@Alex-Defatte Your comment was insinuating that people weren't rebeliing against the system, as if you were. Your restaurant closed - when staying open would've been the epitomy of rebelling against the system. In the instance of the Offspring drummer... Everyone was told to be compliant and they chose to fire their drummer. They said it was not their choice. It 100% was their choice!!! If its that dangerous to travel with unmedicated band members, then do you extend these draconian rules to the thousands of fans in attendance? I will NEVER AGAIN risk my cash to go to another Offspring concert to find out.

[@JohnD3000]

Good times for Ron's come back!

[@JacobTjalma]

And then they have to get Greg back and then is the real Offspring is back

[@rustyolgun]

Liars 😂

[@YouthEnergy]

Why, because their explanation doesn't fit the narrative you want to push?

[@Alex-Defatte]

The Offspring is bigger than themselves, they realize it, their hardcore abroad fans appreciate it, their fans in the U.S. have become sensitive babies renouncing their love for them. People who no longer support the Offspring are just trying to seem woke. The Offspring is their music. Not themselves. Think bigger & realize.

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@johnny6832 First, it's 'The Offspring' your said favorite band and when did raging against a rock band become more important than raging against the actual system? I think you have become the joke and your life doesn't mean anything so you write meaningless comments about a band who wants to stay on tour despite their rhythm section's inability to become vaccinated.

[@postilaatikko7384]

Theyre not welcome to Finland anymore if you ask me, before they apogolize for doing wrong

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@postilaatikko7384 I have family in Finland and my friend Niko from there told me to tell you to FOD.

[@disney7708]

Such communists.

[@surrealist1]

these two guys are insufferable. their albums have been hogwash since the early 90's, hopefully the drummer lands a decent gig in the future.

[@travisv6408]

That sure ain't punk to me

[@femalone860]

Dexter your a legend! Great to see you guys!

[@devilsoffspring5519]

Well said!

[@fanan29]

Sold outs! Burying a brother because of a tour! Punk rock was about taking a stand!! What is it nowadays?? Paying the Bills! I'm ashamed of ever beeing a fan of these low life dyed up hair posers. It's not even funny.

[@sonicroachdoggjrraven3263]

Truth

[@emanuelrock0667]

Dexter it's pro system, there's nothing punk about it.

[@joemarker1]

Legendary chump

[@eltigre1374]

They had no choice.

[@JavierPwns]

Lol they could’ve gotten Pete back now that the jab mandates are gone and they didn’t.

[@mbarry7398]

Yes they did. And THIS was their choice, and what a terrible one. And why? Because they're idiots. Getting degrees does not make you a rational or smart person, so no one can give me that argument w Dexter. Noodles can particularly eat a d--k. A$$face. GREAT JOB GUYS. Pete was the ONLY member making this band worth seeing. Oh, Orange County hates you now too, jockos. Oh, also? I'm not a conservative. I'm just smart and have a brain that doesn't give into fear and governmental pressure. This band sucks and always has, since they intentionally had Trever Keith of Face to Face pushed off the stage for serving up some truth serum in the mid 90's.

[@joemarker1]

Yeah. They needed to throw their friend under the bus so their antifa fan base wouldn't cancel them. Punk to the core.

[@Alex-Defatte]

@@JavierPwns I'm sure they offered it to him and Pete's pride or ego wouldn't allow him to rejoin.

[@workoncruiseship]

There's always a choice.

[@JadedMax]

You can't tour, you get replaced. That's how it goes.

[@boggle272]

replaced without another word, no loyalty- just comply with tyranny is how it goes, the majority did just that