The One Who Got Away, Heath Kirchart | EP 131 | Hawk vs Wolf

Heath Kirchart, a highly-sought after interviewee, comes out of the shadows to discuss his rise to skateboarding fame, and the abrupt end to his skateboarding career.
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[@jmkenny]

Getting HK is WAY MORE impressive, then any actor or musician... the dudes an enigma, he was a thing of lore even before he retired!

[@memorysometimers3067]

Wish it was longer than an hour. Stole him from The9 and it would’ve been another 3+ hours on there.

[@lamBETTERthanY0U]

@@memorysometimers3067he’ll never go on there

[@filmbuff4]

@@memorysometimers3067 yeah Tony has gotten some people like Atiba, Koston and Heath who don't seem interested in going on 9 club

[@tomsativa]

Should do it for passion of skating. Not bc the world dick rides Tony. So lame money talks huh

[@robolinoschmidt8676]

Tom penny would be Crazy too

[@JG-pm9ty]

Heath has zero ego. It created an amazing tension.

[@seank6016]

Ya you could tell Ellis didn’t know if he was taking the piss or not. Ellis didn’t know how to deal.

[@brettkane2287]

The tension 😂 this is awkward

[@Turdfergusen382]

Zero personality you mean.

[@kevingeorge7843]

@@Turdfergusen382naw fool

[@jimmyloughnan9656]

@@Turdfergusen382Heath having no personality is him having an awesome personality

[@joel021782]

Thanks for subjecting yourself to this Heath!! It is extremely appreciated within the skate community.

[@TheSkatereel]

Heath is 💯 correct on social media. Egos are fed to detriment of the soul. We have cell phones. If you really care, why not give that old friend a call or text? Goes a hell of a long way

[@trainwreck2k2]

I agree. Ego driven 99% of the time.

[@ordinarypete]

You’re right.

[@ripsbongs]

He’ll probably never read this but Heath is a huge inspiration to me. To a lot of us. I remember watching mindfield fucking awestruck. So much respect for this dude. A blessing y’all got him on the show

[@ColofulThought]

My only complaint is that this should have been 2-3 hrs. You need to get as much out of him while you have him, especially because he just got comfortable. There is soooo much history to get out of him with his perspective on it.

[@G.G.___162]

100% agreed

[@landonowens889]

For real kind of disappointing cause he seemed like he was down for at least another 30 minutes and there so much unsaid that we want to know

[@VieneLaOriginal]

Curious why he didn’t hit go nine club

[@theman5221]

He's going to the nine club for 3 hours. 🍻🙋

[@masonmcconnell9375]

I agree

[@matttyler8331]

Kirchart, I grew up skating from mid 90’s to early 2000’s and you were widely viewed by me and all my buddies as one of the best skaters doing it. You, Jamie Thomas, Andrew Reynolds, Mullen, Song. You were in rare air, man. And I remember being like 14 and the Hook-Ups Tour came to our local skate shop, and during the open skate session you saw me land a fake 360 shove it and it was a highlight of my youth.

[@Jeffro5564]

What did he say to you? Did you get your board signed by him?

[@lamBETTERthanY0U]

Cmon dude u really think kirchart of all people is gonna read these comments lol

[@ordinarypete]

@@lamBETTERthanY0Uhe may. Never know. You’ll listen to these shows and sometimes they’ll mention how they were reading comments. The problem is, they always focus on the negative comments.

[@Rambo29]

Jason Ellis kinda opened Heath up a bit being honest about his knockouts and struggles, props to Jason Ellis, that guy has had an amazing evolution and props to Tony for still filming jaw dropping parts with an AARP card. Tony, keep inspiring us

[@seth_skates7336]

Man. First the nine club with Willy Santos and now Hawk Vs Wolf with Heath. This week is banging

[@HawkvsWolf]

Happy Holidays!

[@kylechampieux7403]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Nine club + HvsW…. Great Christmas present!

[@5KATER]

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[@theman5221]

I bet will show up on the nine club next week. 🍻🙋

[@xxxthetruthxxx4765]

@@theman5221 i pray it´s gonna happen. he was there with patrick o´dell not too long ago, but didn´t come on camera.

[@AlexHodgesYT]

Heath is the Edgar Allen Poe of skateboarding. Fucking legend.

[@davidmiller7232]

Heath is a hall of a famer. Absolute legend.

[@ryanwhitacre773]

What a Christmas gift to skateboarders!! Thanks guys!

[@snafuBMX420]

Even as a BMXer I appreciated almost as much

[@thomasmarenda6651]

I met Tony Heath and Andrew on my 16th birthday. August 10th 1997 at drop in sk8 park. New Lenox Illinois. My buddy Toad asked Tony when gleaming the cube part 2 was coming out! Heath wrecked the pyramid n Tony did a blunt on the huge wall they had. They put a fun box on the top of the wall wedge. Tony's head was by the ceiling of the building. They had a bowl there n Tony did a hand plant right in front of me. I can still see the wheels spinning. When I got Heaths autograph, it was right after he did something huge over the pyramid and he sat down to take a break. He was outta breath. He gave it all he had that day n it showed! Thank you Heath for being one of the gnarliest sk8ers ever! I'm truly honored to have met you! Sk8 to live! Sk8 or die!

[@rumblefishes]

I like Mr Kirchart. Much respect, an honest human being. And a legendary skateboarder, no matter what he tells you.

[@ashleybrown4754]

Zero ego

[@JoryBarrett]

"Mr" 🙄

[@jon5one7]

Finally a heath kirchart interview. Thank you Birdman.

[@mfdebian]

There's something very refreshing and eerily freeing about listening to someone who's just out of the loop of trying to get everyone to like him or to try to be the best guest or anything, you can tell he's just as genuine as they come, thank you for this rare christmas gift! Truly one of the greats, even tho he doesn't look at himself that way.

[@firstlast4516]

Hearing him say he's a B rate skater made me laugh so hard. Heath Kirchart is a living legend! I couldn't respect this man any more than I do after that social media critique too. This was amazing

[@stusux]

That made me laugh too. Any video he was apart of I was sitting there just anticipating what was to come.

[@Vextos]

Heath's honesty is admirable.

[@Turdfergusen382]

Nah dudes a prick.

[@rawxtir]

One of the top ten / top tier podcast episodes of any kind in the history of the universe - for reals - (file under very reluctant guest) big ups to kirchart for avoiding social media

[@SecretSpots]

I agree 100%

[@Big.Joe.Grizzly]

I started this podcast not knowing Heath, first I was unsure, then I started to like him, then I became more unsure, then I started to dislike him, then i started to like him. Now I think im in love. What a rollercoaster that was. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk

[@sameasforevercanada]

stopped halfway to go watch Heath's "This is Skateboarding" section and mannnnnnn I remember when this dropped. That backside tail, kickflip out and the kickflip front fifty are what classics are made of. Amazing interview. THANK YOU HEATH.

[@dannydropshot9588]

Just finished this and now gonna watch every skate part he put out lol. Brings back memories of the better days!

[@morgellon7877]

I remember seeing that back tail backside flip out in an ad thinking skateboarding couldn't possibly get any gnarlier. And I still get that same feeling seeing the video today. Skating may have gotten more advanced, but Heath helped show that stuff was even possible; if something that insane is possible, a whole world of insanity opens up.

[@jimmyloughnan9656]

I love how he’s doing his very best to convince Tony Hawk about how he’s not a big deal at all despite the incredible career and overwhelming influence he has had. An absolutely comedic level of humility.

[@rawxtir]

The timing with Santos on nine club is frickin rad. It's like a double feature or two part movie or something lol

[@damtosc4877]

There has never been and probably won't be again the epicness of a Heath part. The music choice, editing, slams, and tricks made his parts legendary, one of a kind, give you goosebumps type shit. The way he did it, his style and the amount of effort that went into a Heath part is unmatched. It was watching a man go into battle for the sake of the art of skateboarding itself. That's why we appreciate you.

[@cashway0420]

Heaths a beast, I still remember that huge kick flip over the grass gap where he just collapses. His style is classic even the way he dressed just plain and simple no gimmicks just pure skateboarding.

[@ashleybrown4754]

That kf is big even by todays standards

[@chutcentral]

LEGEND HAS A NAME AND ITS HEATH KIRCHART

[@_6ix9ine__]

Heath, Jim Greco, young Bam and Dylan Rieder are probably my fave skaters

[@GIRAF92]

Its Tony freaking hawk and Jason freaking ellis, and yet they sit there like two geekin out fankids. Heath is a goddang legend. And a legit person to boot, gives it to em straight and stays down to earth while simultaneously being on another planet. Rad

[@mircobernado7028]

Heath Kirchart seems to be a person who likes to be alone and hates bullshit. I really feel it and like that side of him. Also his need for accomplishment. He fights all the time. Not the easiest or funniest way, but true and full of passion. Amazing skateboarder!

[@domwalker6526]

This is one of the best skaters of all time and this interview made me like him way more

[@dannydropshot9588]

It makes sense that only Tony Hawk can get him on a podcast. So stoked for this one. Thank you Birdman ❤also love you Ellis!

[@josebatres894]

Heath Kirchart is a legend. Still admire this man. Wish today’s generation knew this. All his video parts!! Stay Gold , This is Skateboarding, Sight Unseen, THE END (with Jeremy Klein), Mindfield, etc. It’s heart warming seeing he is still with us, was getting worried for a bit.

[@rx8flip]

Heath will always be one of my favorite riders. Such a dope style and The dude can take a slam! 100% can see that in This Is Skateboarding part

[@TheGreatKrystoff]

Heath is so fucking real. Extremely humble dude given what a legend he is. He'll always be seared into my memory just lipsliding gigantic goddamn rails that go on forever

[@AlexHodgesYT]

"im an average skater" bro literally closed out Sight Unseen and Alien Video lmao

[@milesallen7339]

I watch Heath on a regular basis.

[@tomsativa]

Dang. Still waiting for his Nine Club... if it ever happens

[@Jake_Gets_It_Done]

Heath is such a LEGEND! This is by far the most real & extremely entertaining guest that's been on HvW!

[@wydnoob5974]

No way the man the myth the legend heath! Merry Christmas to everyone

[@juniperbordeaux5988]

Thanks so much y’all! I hope everyone is doing well and hanging in there. Good luck Ellis, it’s gonna be ok!

[@Pat_Gunter]

H-he-he's a skateboarding GOD!!

[@funkychile]

Been Waiting for this one, favorite skater OF ALL TIME

[@funkychile]

I'll take one of those boards y'all mentioned on the latest episode, thank you, LOVE YOU GUYS 🤙🏾

[@mikaellofgren7]

Heath sight unseen is my number one video part of all times. Shocked you guys got him out there!!

[@worldsbiggesttruck]

I met heath in an alley in austin at wild in the streets when i was fresh out of high school. asked to take his portrait, he said "by the dumpster??" and i said yeah whatever it will look cool. and i can now say i have a portrait of heath actively hating me haha.

[@worldsbiggesttruck]

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[@comesect]

Thats hilarious @@worldsbiggesttruck

[@AdamCeladin]

Birdhouse the End LEGENDARY !!!!!!

[@rorymcclure]

Loved every brilliantly awkward second of this. Heath is a total gem

[@slados1]

Heath Kirchart... what more could you ask for? Probably the best episode yet!

[@LuthersArchiv]

„Did I charge you?“ - „Did I tip you?“ ❤❤❤

[@Ben3350]

This is my favorite episode of this podcast. The beautiful thing about heath is that he wants nothing to do with being cool or famous but the more he hates it the more it makes him cool. I remember he served me drinks at the bar he worked at called Black and he was chill and down to earth with no ego. One of a kind enigma

[@FriendlyAnimals]

Heath’s one of my favorite skaters too. I have a similar personality type and if I had to guess he’s kind of a lone wolf personality or confident individualist. People with this personality tend to enjoy solitary time or with a tight knit crew and anything outside of that bubble is just perceived as noise. This also explains how he was an extremely successful skateboarder, but to him, all the attention is just noise bc he viewed it as just skating with the people he knows and doing what he loved doing at the time. It’s not always easy to be like this, bc some people perceive the solitude or unwillingness to engage as being stand offish, ungrateful for the success, or stuck up, so really happy to see so many supportive comments. Glad Heath decided to do the podcast, bc whether or not he sees outside of his past bubble of having fun skating with people he knows, tons of us watched him skate growing up and got inspired about pushing the limits of what’s possible to do on a skateboard, either in terms of our own personal skill sets or in Heath’s case, pushing the limits of what is physically possible for all humans during his time skating.

[@RS-rh9kp]

Thanks for being on the podcast Health!🙌 One of my favs along with Gino & Guy

[@marvinshenk]

Merry Christmas to everyone. I am a skater for 40 years and until death, and I love all the skaters out there.

[@bondalero0074]

Skateboarding as a sport is hard for lifetime skater’s to understand. It is what “I” went to avoiding team sports I tried and I DID NOT enjoy. Skateboarding was MINE and there were others who enjoyed it as well. At 51 “WE” NEVER lose skateboarding; It’s in “OUR” heart and soul! It is great seeing it finally recognized in the big picture. I still kick around and collect like a madman because it soothes my soul. I went through injury, pain med addiction the whole gambit. Somehow I overcame all that a decade ago but still watch videos to see what’s hot and enjoy seeing the fire and spirit of the young one’s WE carry! Skateboarding changed and shaped our lives and NOBODY but skateboarder’s will get what I’m saying…#ShutUp&Skate#🛹❤️🤘🏻

[@chadmballash]

Just listened on Spotify and now I want to watch the conversation happen . Too bad it's almost 2 a.m. and Santa could come writhing down my chimney any second with chunks of coal to smash in my face. I really enjoyed how uncomfortable and real it was. I've had conversations in a similar vein. There's something oddly nostalgic and refreshing about it. Thanks for doing it, Heath. I know those feelings.

[@smoscar]

Heath's humility is incredibly endearing

[@megansuefry5408]

I miss when Heath lived here in Des Moines. I’d often see him riding his bike in Urbandale, and he frequently attended sessions at Skate South. Sometimes he’d even humor us kids and play games of SKATE and help us figure out tricks. Hopefully he’ll stop through sometime this year when it warms up and we can get some sessions in at the Lauridsen park. Thank you for everything, HK. You’re a legend and your contributions to skateboarding/many of us skaters is invaluable. Sincerely, Concussion

[@2WheelsGood]

Heath is a legend. My favorite skater hands down. Would love to see him on the Nine Club.

[@kevincaudron1714]

This is quite possibly the best thing I could've gotten for Christmas.

[@Lilpetegr01]

Heath was a top dog in this interview.. What a legend... Elis should have been left aside for this one.. Although the story with him was gold... 😂😂

[@Jeremya74]

One of the best skateboarders that ever lived and he think this about himself..wow

[@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks]

Absolutely love this interview! Love his heart and humility. I was off social media for 15 years! It’s a great time of growth.

[@CROWSLAW]

I can’t believe they got heath kirtchart. One of my all time favorites.

[@trainwreck2k2]

Heath has been my fav skater since the first time I seen him on a 411VM box cover. He was like a stunt man on a board. And the fact he would stay so low key made him all the more interesting. I’m 39 now and seeing him finally do an interview has me just as hyped as I would have been as a 20 year old. Heath can deny being one of the best but he should def accept the fact that he was a huge pioneer in skateboarding. And that says a lot.

[@kenthomson8598]

One of my top three skate episodes. The only ones I usually listen to. Heath was awesome. Wish it went for 3 hours.

[@SecretSpots]

WUT?!?! I thought I was dreaming when I read the title and had to wipe my eyes!!! ... Watching the mythical legend Heath Kirchart on Hawk vs Wolf on Christmas morning!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS TO US!!!!! ❤🙏🏼🎄

[@HawkvsWolf]

Happy Holidays!! Enjoy :)

[@adamadams5111]

Thank you for coming Heath we all respect and appreciate you

[@4drturbo85]

First hawk verse wolf episode I watched. Amazing. Kirchart is one of my faves. Such a good guy. Thanks for this episode

[@nightmarereject]

Hands down my favorite skateboarder ever. Still watch his parts before I go skate. So hyped to hear he still skates. Just stopped what I was doing and texted all my friends heath is on the pod. Legendary

[@briansutton9509]

Never been more surprised and excited to see someone in an interview. I wish they’d have asked him more about his life though, recalling stories is great but it still leaves me wanting more.

[@christinamiesner6398]

This was by far my most favorite episode! HK is a legend and I have so much respect for him coming on the show. Thank you! Much love to HK and the HvsW crew!

[@Phil.Anthropy]

My second actual board was a Heath "nightmare", I didn't even like birdhouse. But after sight unseen I had to skate what he was skating, there was no way around it. The Moody Blues Nights in White Satin holds a special spot in my heart purely because of that skate tape. Every time the song alone comes on I can literally hear and see the slams and the makes from that. Heath wont read this, but you are a hero to me, and always come in discusssions of greats.

[@jani724]

That intro with him driving down the highway 👌👌

[@Phil.Anthropy]

@@jani724 That was mint right? The feelings going into that 29 stair slam. Be well

[@joshxcor]

Heath is one of my all time favorites. This was a fantastic interview, and he came off very natural and even though he doesn’t like interviews or anything, he’s very good at it. Loved this.

[@AlexNiedt]

Wish more people did interviews with actual honesty like this. Heath is an absolute legend. What a great Christmas gift! 🙏

[@espaciofantazma901]

Thank you so much for getting Heath on. It's nice to get updates on what he's been doing. Even after stepping out of the spot light, everyone still holds Heath in a dear place in their heart.

[@dwarfchron801]

Heath is such a truly one of a kind guy. I love that he doesnt do a bunch of interviews just cause when he does it feels like a such a special occasion haha I could listen to him all day.

[@shashlik420]

anxiety that i had watchin this was pretty high, thanks guys - loved it!

[@slightlysublime]

Back in '96-'97, Kirchart, Reynolds & Greco came to a party at our house after a demo in Tucson and I gave them a ride back to their hotel afterwards. Drove them by the Manzanita Hall rail at the UofA and they said they were gonna hit it up. I just remember Heath got a random nosebleed when we were at the party out front. That's my Heath story.

[@rezarcher]

Heath is my all time favorite skater. This is a real Christmas Treat. Thanks to Hawk and Wolf for not blowing the interview. This dudes is the real deal!

[@G.G.___162]

FINALLY! Kirchart on a podcast! This might never happen again!

[@DerekGnarGnar]

If anyone asks me who my favorite skateboarder is, my answer is always Heath Kirchart. Dude is authentic af

[@wallymoon666]

Heath, you're a legend whether you want to accept it or not. I know you want to fade into the ether, but you left a dent in skateboarding that can't be forgotten. You've helped alot of kids in their lives & those same kids watched your videos right before they went out to skate in the parking lot with their friends. Embrace man ☮️

[@joshuadobrilovic4157]

Jason laughing when Heath says, “someone with natural talent like Guy” says it all! lol Heath you’ve been an inspiration and the top skater I’ve looked up to my whole life! Thanks for the love & dedication you’ve shared skating! Stay gold! 🤙

[@timothyolson8485]

Heath goes shuts these people down

[@redrepublic5557]

I almost know what kirchart meant when he said it’s bizarre that he’s there even though he’s not involved in skateboarding anymore, like it was a life time ago. I was thinking the same thing, how wild it is to look at 52 yr old Jason Ellis and to think that man was pulling kick flip 540s on big vert.. some time ago.

[@ErgoCogita]

So rad to see Heath nonchalantly heckling, with a lil love.

[@82PeRK]

H.K. doesn't realize juar how entertaining he is as a guest. His stories are awesome.

[@unseenforcs]

damn. tony is probably the only one that can get blender and kirchhart for interviews. rare.

[@nopics.noglory]

Really happy to finally see and hear Heath, still and will be one of my favourite skateboarder !!

[@brendangreen6197]

That was amazing. Best skateboard podcast Ive ever seen and Ive seen a lot. I wish there could be more people as interesting, honest, blunt and humble as Heath. Made me laugh so much with his straight talking unapologetic persona. And I honestly believe he has no idea how great he was on a skateboard. It didn't matter how much Tony and Jason tried to tell him how he is most probably all skaters (pro or am or the rest of us) favourite skater he either didn't believe it or just didn't care. What a character.

[@doworksy4023]

Heath Kirchart is and will always be my favorite skateboarder.

[@Oldassmetalhead]

Heath is the coolest dude in the universe!! Glad to see you guys have him on the show

[@amayaprasojo1974]

Much respect for yall guys . still Connecting even not in skateboarding thats the name brotherhood ❤

[@chriswalker5385]

So rad! These are important stories. We’d never know otherwise. Thank you guys for manning up and talking about awkward history and everything in between.

[@kilosoul236]

Heath is a legend. I still watch his part from the end all the time before I go out and skate.

[@richdixon]

"It's already been great!" ... "uhhh" What a fucking legend and an enigma.

[@LupinTheThird31]

This is the best Christmas ever!!!! Thank you Tony for making this happen!!!! Heith you are so AWESOME!!!!(never change!)

[@mikecrook]

Skating comes in lots of forms, Heath is a prime example of the rare core dudes that just did it to do it. I really enjoyed that, Heath thank you for skating and being you.

[@chrhadden]

im 49 and just started skating again after 19 yrs and i identified with everything jason said and i feel exactly the same way. why did i ever stop skating. its like i was in some kind of messed up trance. i never stopped looking for curbs and banks etc. i never stopped thinking like a skater. everybody in this situation says the same thing. its like we all are on the same exact frequency. its fu*&Ng weird if you really think about it

[@jackthehumanofficial]

i love how heath doesnt even realize how goated he is nor does he care

[@Dougmond]

As someone who didn't grow up skating and didn't know who heath was, he is now one of my favorite people ever, and I would watch anything involving him. People always appreciate true honesty and humility. This was a great episode and one of my favorites.

[@01ryan10]

No wonder he doesn't do interviews. This was about 80% as good as it could be. As much as I'd expected lol. Thank you Tony and Jason for this Gem 💎

[@acresofcosmos7563]

Agreed. Would have been a million times better on the Nine Club.

[@kylechampieux7403]

I guarantee Crob could have opened him up!

[@acresofcosmos7563]

@@kylechampieux7403 For sure. He’s much better at directing and navigating an interview. These dudes just kind of go for it and it comes off more as a hang out with some questions. Just less professional and less organized overall.

[@GregMuniz7]

He honestly talked about a lot more than I thought. He’s known Tony forever so that’s the only reason he did it.

[@lovelesstv]

heath is one of the guys who made me want to learn back noseblunts. i grew up in a small, flat town and wanted to jump down stuff. his style, his expressed confidence, everything. i wanted both "strictly business" and "out with the lads" skating; it made me find a way. i've waited for over 20 years to hear something like this. thank you tony and jason and heath. i know he's not into it, heath's said as much, but he definitely left an imprint in my mind. skateboarding was my life for about 25 years, i still follow it, and i still hold respect for what inspired myself and my peers. thank you, thank you

[@JodsLife1]

yes was just talking to my brother how this episode was so freaking good because heath kirchart just talks what looks like unfiltered... so dope!!!

[@garyvoigt321]

This is an amazing episode. Thank you Heath for doing this one.