The One Who Got Away, Heath Kirchart | EP 131 | Hawk vs Wolf

Heath Kirchart, a highly-sought after interviewee, comes out of the shadows to discuss his rise to skateboarding fame, and the abrupt end to his skateboarding career.
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[@jmkenny]

Getting HK is WAY MORE impressive, then any actor or musician... the dudes an enigma, he was a thing of lore even before he retired!

[@memorysometimers3067]

Wish it was longer than an hour. Stole him from The9 and it would’ve been another 3+ hours on there.

[@lamBETTERthanY0U]

@@memorysometimers3067he’ll never go on there

[@filmbuff4]

@@memorysometimers3067 yeah Tony has gotten some people like Atiba, Koston and Heath who don't seem interested in going on 9 club

[@tomsativa]

Should do it for passion of skating. Not bc the world dick rides Tony. So lame money talks huh

[@robolinoschmidt8676]

Tom penny would be Crazy too

[@TheSkatereel]

Heath is 💯 correct on social media. Egos are fed to detriment of the soul. We have cell phones. If you really care, why not give that old friend a call or text? Goes a hell of a long way

[@trainwreck2k2]

I agree. Ego driven 99% of the time.

[@ordinarypete]

You’re right.

[@joel021782]

Thanks for subjecting yourself to this Heath!! It is extremely appreciated within the skate community.

[@ColofulThought]

My only complaint is that this should have been 2-3 hrs. You need to get as much out of him while you have him, especially because he just got comfortable. There is soooo much history to get out of him with his perspective on it.

[@G.G.___162]

100% agreed

[@landonowens889]

For real kind of disappointing cause he seemed like he was down for at least another 30 minutes and there so much unsaid that we want to know

[@VieneLaOriginal]

Curious why he didn’t hit go nine club

[@theman5221]

He's going to the nine club for 3 hours. 🍻🙋

[@masonmcconnell9375]

I agree

[@harryalvarado4692]

Had the amazing chance of meeting Heath in Chicago and got a photo with him. He said in this interview, “no one knows who I am, no one asks.” I knew that no one else around knew it was him and I appreciate that he took the time.

[@matttyler8331]

Kirchart, I grew up skating from mid 90’s to early 2000’s and you were widely viewed by me and all my buddies as one of the best skaters doing it. You, Jamie Thomas, Andrew Reynolds, Mullen, Song. You were in rare air, man. And I remember being like 14 and the Hook-Ups Tour came to our local skate shop, and during the open skate session you saw me land a fake 360 shove it and it was a highlight of my youth.

[@Jeffro5564]

What did he say to you? Did you get your board signed by him?

[@lamBETTERthanY0U]

Cmon dude u really think kirchart of all people is gonna read these comments lol

[@ordinarypete]

@@lamBETTERthanY0Uhe may. Never know. You’ll listen to these shows and sometimes they’ll mention how they were reading comments. The problem is, they always focus on the negative comments.

[@rumblefishes]

I like Mr Kirchart. Much respect, an honest human being. And a legendary skateboarder, no matter what he tells you.

[@ashleybrown4754]

Zero ego

[@JoryBarrett]

"Mr" 🙄

[@seth_skates7336]

Man. First the nine club with Willy Santos and now Hawk Vs Wolf with Heath. This week is banging

[@HawkvsWolf]

Happy Holidays!

[@kylechampieux7403]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Nine club + HvsW…. Great Christmas present!

[@5KATER]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hImnmKqvnMtogLcsi=JRlnK1HyiPH1EFKn

[@theman5221]

I bet will show up on the nine club next week. 🍻🙋

[@xxxthetruthxxx4765]

@@theman5221 i pray it´s gonna happen. he was there with patrick o´dell not too long ago, but didn´t come on camera.

[@Rambo29]

Jason Ellis kinda opened Heath up a bit being honest about his knockouts and struggles, props to Jason Ellis, that guy has had an amazing evolution and props to Tony for still filming jaw dropping parts with an AARP card. Tony, keep inspiring us

[@thomasmarenda6651]

I met Tony Heath and Andrew on my 16th birthday. August 10th 1997 at drop in sk8 park. New Lenox Illinois. My buddy Toad asked Tony when gleaming the cube part 2 was coming out! Heath wrecked the pyramid n Tony did a blunt on the huge wall they had. They put a fun box on the top of the wall wedge. Tony's head was by the ceiling of the building. They had a bowl there n Tony did a hand plant right in front of me. I can still see the wheels spinning. When I got Heaths autograph, it was right after he did something huge over the pyramid and he sat down to take a break. He was outta breath. He gave it all he had that day n it showed! Thank you Heath for being one of the gnarliest sk8ers ever! I'm truly honored to have met you! Sk8 to live! Sk8 or die!

[@turneryoung905]

3 GOATS. Heath, Andrew Reynolds, Brian Anderson, Daewon Song, Mike Carroll, Eric Koston, AVE, Stevie Williams, Josh Kalis, Marc Johnson, Stefan Janoski, Geoff Rowley, Keenan Milton and Jason Dill was the sickest Dream Team to grow up with who felt like the first generation of skaters who had both the success of the Bones Brigade and the first street pioneers in Gonz, Rodney, Kareem, Jovantae, Hensley, Cardiel, Danny Way, Jamie Thomas, Tom Penny, Pat Duffy Ray Barbee, Clyde Singleton and Ed Templeton to look up to and model themselves after when skateboarding still wasn’t entirely respected as a legitimate avenue to pursue in life.

[@mfdebian]

There's something very refreshing and eerily freeing about listening to someone who's just out of the loop of trying to get everyone to like him or to try to be the best guest or anything, you can tell he's just as genuine as they come, thank you for this rare christmas gift! Truly one of the greats, even tho he doesn't look at himself that way.

[@jon5one7]

Finally a heath kirchart interview. Thank you Birdman.

[@Vextos]

Heath's honesty is admirable.

[@Turdfergusen382]

Nah dudes a prick.

[@jimmyloughnan9656]

I love how he’s doing his very best to convince Tony Hawk about how he’s not a big deal at all despite the incredible career and overwhelming influence he has had. An absolutely comedic level of humility.

[@ripsbongs]

He’ll probably never read this but Heath is a huge inspiration to me. To a lot of us. I remember watching mindfield fucking awestruck. So much respect for this dude. A blessing y’all got him on the show

[@sameasforevercanada]

stopped halfway to go watch Heath's "This is Skateboarding" section and mannnnnnn I remember when this dropped. That backside tail, kickflip out and the kickflip front fifty are what classics are made of. Amazing interview. THANK YOU HEATH.

[@dannydropshot9588]

Just finished this and now gonna watch every skate part he put out lol. Brings back memories of the better days!

[@morgellon7877]

I remember seeing that back tail backside flip out in an ad thinking skateboarding couldn't possibly get any gnarlier. And I still get that same feeling seeing the video today. Skating may have gotten more advanced, but Heath helped show that stuff was even possible; if something that insane is possible, a whole world of insanity opens up.

[@rawxtir]

One of the top ten / top tier podcast episodes of any kind in the history of the universe - for reals - (file under very reluctant guest) big ups to kirchart for avoiding social media

[@SecretSpots]

I agree 100%

[@firstlast4516]

Hearing him say he's a B rate skater made me laugh so hard. Heath Kirchart is a living legend! I couldn't respect this man any more than I do after that social media critique too. This was amazing

[@stusux]

That made me laugh too. Any video he was apart of I was sitting there just anticipating what was to come.

[@thomasrainbow]

Yes that was wild to hear and Jason's reaction was perfect.

[@domwalker6526]

This is one of the best skaters of all time and this interview made me like him way more

[@dannydropshot9588]

It makes sense that only Tony Hawk can get him on a podcast. So stoked for this one. Thank you Birdman ❤also love you Ellis!

[@cashway0420]

Heaths a beast, I still remember that huge kick flip over the grass gap where he just collapses. His style is classic even the way he dressed just plain and simple no gimmicks just pure skateboarding.

[@ashleybrown4754]

That kf is big even by todays standards

[@chutcentral]

LEGEND HAS A NAME AND ITS HEATH KIRCHART

[@TheGreatKrystoff]

Heath is so fucking real. Extremely humble dude given what a legend he is. He'll always be seared into my memory just lipsliding gigantic goddamn rails that go on forever

[@juniperbordeaux5988]

Thanks so much y’all! I hope everyone is doing well and hanging in there. Good luck Ellis, it’s gonna be ok!

[@adamadams5111]

Thank you for coming Heath we all respect and appreciate you

[@AlexHodgesYT]

"im an average skater" bro literally closed out Sight Unseen and Alien Video lmao

[@milesallen7339]

I watch Heath on a regular basis.

[@rawxtir]

The timing with Santos on nine club is frickin rad. It's like a double feature or two part movie or something lol

[@josebatres894]

Heath Kirchart is a legend. Still admire this man. Wish today’s generation knew this. All his video parts!! Stay Gold , This is Skateboarding, Sight Unseen, THE END (with Jeremy Klein), Mindfield, etc. It’s heart warming seeing he is still with us, was getting worried for a bit.

[@Shakejuntmane]

Heath will always be one of my favorite riders. Such a dope style and The dude can take a slam! 100% can see that in This Is Skateboarding part

[@slados1]

Heath Kirchart... what more could you ask for? Probably the best episode yet!

[@joshuadobrilovic4157]

Jason laughing when Heath says, “someone with natural talent like Guy” says it all! lol Heath you’ve been an inspiration and the top skater I’ve looked up to my whole life! Thanks for the love & dedication you’ve shared skating! Stay gold! 🤙

[@megansuefry5408]

I miss when Heath lived here in Des Moines. I’d often see him riding his bike in Urbandale, and he frequently attended sessions at Skate South. Sometimes he’d even humor us kids and play games of SKATE and help us figure out tricks. Hopefully he’ll stop through sometime this year when it warms up and we can get some sessions in at the Lauridsen park. Thank you for everything, HK. You’re a legend and your contributions to skateboarding/many of us skaters is invaluable. Sincerely, Concussion

[@mikaellofgren7]

Heath sight unseen is my number one video part of all times. Shocked you guys got him out there!!

[@wydnoob5974]

No way the man the myth the legend heath! Merry Christmas to everyone

[@rorymcclure]

Loved every brilliantly awkward second of this. Heath is a total gem

[@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks]

Absolutely love this interview! Love his heart and humility. I was off social media for 15 years! It’s a great time of growth.

[@chadmballash]

Just listened on Spotify and now I want to watch the conversation happen . Too bad it's almost 2 a.m. and Santa could come writhing down my chimney any second with chunks of coal to smash in my face. I really enjoyed how uncomfortable and real it was. I've had conversations in a similar vein. There's something oddly nostalgic and refreshing about it. Thanks for doing it, Heath. I know those feelings.

[@rezarcher]

Heath is my all time favorite skater. This is a real Christmas Treat. Thanks to Hawk and Wolf for not blowing the interview. This dudes is the real deal!

[@4drturbo85]

First hawk verse wolf episode I watched. Amazing. Kirchart is one of my faves. Such a good guy. Thanks for this episode

[@anthonyguida4889]

One of my favorite interviews.

[@AlexNiedt]

Wish more people did interviews with actual honesty like this. Heath is an absolute legend. What a great Christmas gift! 🙏

[@2WheelsGood]

Heath is a legend. My favorite skater hands down. Would love to see him on the Nine Club.

[@kevincaudron1714]

This is quite possibly the best thing I could've gotten for Christmas.

[@kenthomson8598]

One of my top three skate episodes. The only ones I usually listen to. Heath was awesome. Wish it went for 3 hours.

[@wallymoon666]

Heath, you're a legend whether you want to accept it or not. I know you want to fade into the ether, but you left a dent in skateboarding that can't be forgotten. You've helped alot of kids in their lives & those same kids watched your videos right before they went out to skate in the parking lot with their friends. Embrace man ☮️

[@tomsativa]

Dang. Still waiting for his Nine Club... if it ever happens

[@shashlik420]

anxiety that i had watchin this was pretty high, thanks guys - loved it!

[@CROWSLAW]

I can’t believe they got heath kirtchart. One of my all time favorites.

[@Phil.Anthropy]

My second actual board was a Heath "nightmare", I didn't even like birdhouse. But after sight unseen I had to skate what he was skating, there was no way around it. The Moody Blues Nights in White Satin holds a special spot in my heart purely because of that skate tape. Every time the song alone comes on I can literally hear and see the slams and the makes from that. Heath wont read this, but you are a hero to me, and always come in discusssions of greats.

[@jani724]

That intro with him driving down the highway 👌👌

[@Phil.Anthropy]

@@jani724 That was mint right? The feelings going into that 29 stair slam. Be well

[@zenobragatheghettotrashchi5399]

I remember my buddy giving me a burned copy of The End and just being blown away watching Heath and Jeremy's part especially the night skating with the huge neon green kicker ramp, that movie and those parts specifically are some of the greatest moments in skateboarding history in my opinion!! Timeless

[@01ryan10]

No wonder he doesn't do interviews. This was about 80% as good as it could be. As much as I'd expected lol. Thank you Tony and Jason for this Gem 💎

[@acresofcosmos7563]

Agreed. Would have been a million times better on the Nine Club.

[@kylechampieux7403]

I guarantee Crob could have opened him up!

[@acresofcosmos7563]

@@kylechampieux7403 For sure. He’s much better at directing and navigating an interview. These dudes just kind of go for it and it comes off more as a hang out with some questions. Just less professional and less organized overall.

[@GregMuniz7]

He honestly talked about a lot more than I thought. He’s known Tony forever so that’s the only reason he did it.

[@DerekGnarGnar]

If anyone asks me who my favorite skateboarder is, my answer is always Heath Kirchart. Dude is authentic af

[@peteaimaro]

Jason doesn’t need to talk. He could learn a lot from just listening to the guest rather than trying to relate every story to his MMA experience.

[@dwarfchron801]

Heath is such a truly one of a kind guy. I love that he doesnt do a bunch of interviews just cause when he does it feels like a such a special occasion haha I could listen to him all day.

[@espaciofantazma901]

Thank you so much for getting Heath on. It's nice to get updates on what he's been doing. Even after stepping out of the spot light, everyone still holds Heath in a dear place in their heart.

[@Jeremya74]

One of the best skateboarders that ever lived and he think this about himself..wow

[@ErgoCogita]

So rad to see Heath nonchalantly heckling, with a lil love.

[@mikecrook]

Skating comes in lots of forms, Heath is a prime example of the rare core dudes that just did it to do it. I really enjoyed that, Heath thank you for skating and being you.

[@doworksy4023]

Heath Kirchart is and will always be my favorite skateboarder.

[@G.G.___162]

FINALLY! Kirchart on a podcast! This might never happen again!

[@Oldassmetalhead]

Heath is the coolest dude in the universe!! Glad to see you guys have him on the show

[@DanielMaruniak]

Keith, if you are reading this, I want you to know that you have had an influence on me more than any other skateboarder and this interview was the first episode of hawk vs wolf I have watched the entire way through. No offense to Hawk or Ellis. THANK YOU. You are the greatest of all time in my eyes.

[@82PeRK]

H.K. doesn't realize juar how entertaining he is as a guest. His stories are awesome.

[@slightlysublime]

Back in '96-'97, Kirchart, Reynolds & Greco came to a party at our house after a demo in Tucson and I gave them a ride back to their hotel afterwards. Drove them by the Manzanita Hall rail at the UofA and they said they were gonna hit it up. I just remember Heath got a random nosebleed when we were at the party out front. That's my Heath story.

[@LuthersArchiv]

„Did I charge you?“ - „Did I tip you?“ ❤❤❤

[@oldirtyrod]

im reminded of the phrase "with the blessing comes the curse" it seems heath has never once sat on his notoriety and is as humble as the day he became famous. love his take on the social media. at the same time the skate community need interviews like this

[@poonslamming]

This is one of those episodes everyone wishes was longer.

[@lovelesstv]

heath is one of the guys who made me want to learn back noseblunts. i grew up in a small, flat town and wanted to jump down stuff. his style, his expressed confidence, everything. i wanted both "strictly business" and "out with the lads" skating; it made me find a way. i've waited for over 20 years to hear something like this. thank you tony and jason and heath. i know he's not into it, heath's said as much, but he definitely left an imprint in my mind. skateboarding was my life for about 25 years, i still follow it, and i still hold respect for what inspired myself and my peers. thank you, thank you

[@Harleyluyah]

Hope someone shows him how much love he has out there cos Heath is awesome

[@brendangreen6197]

That was amazing. Best skateboard podcast Ive ever seen and Ive seen a lot. I wish there could be more people as interesting, honest, blunt and humble as Heath. Made me laugh so much with his straight talking unapologetic persona. And I honestly believe he has no idea how great he was on a skateboard. It didn't matter how much Tony and Jason tried to tell him how he is most probably all skaters (pro or am or the rest of us) favourite skater he either didn't believe it or just didn't care. What a character.

[@richdixon]

"It's already been great!" ... "uhhh" What a fucking legend and an enigma.

[@Alskie666]

Hands down my favorite skateboarder ever. Still watch his parts before I go skate. So hyped to hear he still skates. Just stopped what I was doing and texted all my friends heath is on the pod. Legendary

[@toddt.]

Heath is so rad he even told me he wasnt heath. True story. I was just a younging and spotted him one day. Lol Nostalgia all over again.

[@dagttv]

I wonder if Heath realizes how important he is to our community. Like even hearing him talk about being hard on himself and how he feels disconnected to his younger self was a joy. It’s HK. We are just stocked to have him there

[@garyvoigt321]

This is an amazing episode. Thank you Heath for doing this one.

[@here4thiscringe953]

The man the myth the legend. Beautiful

[@amayaprasojo1974]

Much respect for yall guys . still Connecting even not in skateboarding thats the name brotherhood ❤

[@jerrtheripper1349]

Great interview. Heath was one of my fave skaters back in the day.

[@er1end]

imagine getting heath and let wolf talk over him the entire show

[@thebigcheese5114]

Seriously, I really wish it were only Heath and Tony.

[@Thisisdarkdata]

Honestly it wouldn’t have worked without Ellis, unfortunately with Heath being the king of one word answers. “Yep.”

[@followsuittrading]

Loved the authenticity. I absolutely love this podcast. My new favorite.

[@skateandlax33]

More skate guests please, this was such a good episode ❤

[@joeschmoe5009]

Speaking of willy, today nine club has willy as the guest! What a cool day for skateboarding podcasts!

[@Lilpetegr01]

Heath was a top dog in this interview.. What a legend... Elis should have been left aside for this one.. Although the story with him was gold... 😂😂

[@unknownoriginal8004]

Thank you Heath. You are a legend of legends.

[@jakemiller1654]

The motorbike pull in road gap bs flip is untouchable .should of shut that gap down after that . Thankyou heath.made the cold winter morning in Edinburgh so much better.best present so far !!

[@bradcollins3858]

On the east coast wishing I could go get a hot coffee from Riley’s coffee shop!

[@dereksims6128]

Heath in Sight Unseen was truly epic. All top pros are so skilled but I always felt Heath gave it 100% and then some. I always felt he took it to the absolute limit and beyond even what high level skill set he had. Definitely a silent hardcore attitude and the action to back it up. Amazing stuff.

[@Kotaburns]

damn you guys gonna keep me up with HEATH KIRCHART on christmas morning. hell yeah

[@markfitzurka9995]

It’s funny how he doesn’t subscribe for the whole social media thing and Jason doesn’t understand. For a guy with no ego it hard to explain to a guy who is nothing but ego is hilarious to me. I enjoyed the conversation and happy that you guys got him on the show. The impression of Jason without words was spot on he made the eyes and face and head nod. Classic

[@komagome03]

HK has been in my top 5 favorite skaters all my skateboarding life. I happened to start skateboarding when he did, in ‘89, and it is so beautiful and inspiring to see how he went from the most annoying and obnoxious little prick to the Man with a capital M he is now. Props to you guys for bringing him over, everyone needs to hear more from people like him.

[@timothyolson8485]

Heath goes shuts these people down

[@jonothonrichardson7865]

Priceless I loved every second of this show keep them coming. 100%

[@HawkvsWolf]

🙏

[@LupinTheThird31]

This is the best Christmas ever!!!! Thank you Tony for making this happen!!!! Heith you are so AWESOME!!!!(never change!)

[@tunelowplayslow5623]

I can could go on and on about how Heath video parts blew my mind as a kid but the best way to put it is that, Heath changed skateboarding. He moved the needle forward. By the time his The End part came out, the dude was untouchable.

[@ianhauschild8938]

Only tony could get heath I love it

[@TheHSIHP]

I love his take on social media. Besides KZbin, I don't do social media either. No FB, Instagram, Twitter, Tic Toc.

[@loonateer]

Best Dude! Made the most beautiful Kickflip in Skateboard History

[@GPG7754]

Heath was absolutely one of the greats

[@redrepublic5557]

I almost know what kirchart meant when he said it’s bizarre that he’s there even though he’s not involved in skateboarding anymore, like it was a life time ago. I was thinking the same thing, how wild it is to look at 52 yr old Jason Ellis and to think that man was pulling kick flip 540s on big vert.. some time ago.

[@tobyskatefilms7262]

legend. absolute legend. so humble. so legendary.

[@drillbill3050]

I normally listen to the podcast but was glad to see you guys on video. Truly our two dads.