The Online Disappearance Of Leda Muir (LedaMonsterBunny)

[@nemureki]

leda really helped form a lot of who i am today. i started watching her when i was 11 and now im almost 23. i just hope shes doing okay even though i really miss watching her.

[@marsii]

Thankfully archive's exist if you ever want to revisit that time

[@rissamarie1280]

Leda does take a lot of long breaks and usually will come back. That being said I will admit this last time does feel a lot different. I think she’s happier not being online.

[@adrianna94]

She has said she doesn’t like the internet /:

[@rissamarie1280]

@@adrianna94 can’t say I blame her. I don’t much like the internet myself. It can be an incredibly negative place. 😞

[@aliceatrocious]

I agree, I feel like she might stick to writing in the future, it makes me sad because I loved her videos, but she has to do what's best for her.

[@alllittlethingzz]

Tbh Leda was the og scene girl before Alex, Alex just copied her style cause Johnnie had a crush on Leda back then.

[@shinyespurrz]

Omg and when Leda came back johnnie tried to dump Alex for a chance with Leda 😂 dude’s a LOSER

[@ndmuse]

​@@shinyespurrzI guess you were there? You're spitting out rumors and speculation because you don't have a clue. He's definitely not a loser and whatever he does in his private life is no one's business but his.

[@Isus24-s8e]

@@ndmuseThey literally said in one of their videos that at first they dated through skype and later on he dumped her and then they came back to each other. Leda came back on youtube like in 2015 and since then Alex kept on gradually changing her style to match Leda's more. She would pose in the exact same way get the exact same hair color combinations (yes we can say that this is a coincidence) but a photo of the exact same book with the same nail color on it seems kinda sus don't you think?

[@EternalDarkness691]

Yesssss literally so true though she’s always copied ledas style and I’m so sick of people saying it’s a coincidence no, maybe a few times it’s a coincidence but when the nails, bedroom, hair, jewellery, clothes and poses are the same it’s obvious and she had the cheek to say Leda was copying her 😭🤣

[@SocialExperiment232]

⁠@@EternalDarkness691for real! It was not a coincidence I think she was very jealous of her. I think a lot of people online were and she kinda got the BritneySpears treatment, like the things that were said about Leda would not be ok nowadays. People just nitpicked at everything she did and basically bullied her off the internet.

[@SocialExperiment232]

I miss her so much. She made me feel so understood as a kid. I’m happy she is living life on her terms away from the internet as it was always so toxic to her. I go back and watch some of her vids every now and then to feel some massive nostalgia I just hope she’s super happy ❤

[@BBhWEENx]

Leda used to change a lot depending of who was she dating, like, when she dated Nathan she got even more emo, with Matt she started to do a lot more comic videos, that one singer (forgot his name) she never posted because she went on tour a lot with him, so every time she disappeared she came back with a new personality almost... I remember that one time she left youtube because she started dating the baby daddy of her best friend (and because of that they stopped talking) and the internet started attacking her for being a bad friend...I know that they didn't date for a long time because a while later he came out as trans and lives now as a woman. Once she came back to the internet again she completely changed, like, her content was always very innocent and after that if became very sexual, she kept talking about her vagina and masturbation and started to wear a lot of black, almost gothic and I remember thinking it was really odd... She had another hiatus and when came back she only talked about her books, she mentioned that she moved once or twice but that was pretty much it... I don't know if this is another hiatus or not but it's the longest she have been offline. I just hope she is ok

[@SocialExperiment232]

What you’re talking about is just a teenager going through the stages of growing up. Of course she changed a lot. She was so young when she started it would be impossible for her not to change many times. I remember when sit was happening in real time people would always be like “I miss the old Leda” it was so annoying like let the girl grow. She got so much hate that she didn’t deserve for things that would pretty much be praised nowadays. That’s what would drive her off the internet cause people would just nitpick at everything she did.

[@SocialExperiment232]

Also her being influenced by her bf is probably because they were so much older than her and she was still impressionable. She was 14/15 when she dated Nathan and he was 19/20. Makes sense that she “changed” slightly in his favor since that literally what men do when they date teenagers, they shape them to their perfect gf.

[@Rosef1re]

Honestly that is just a normal part of growing up as a teenager. Some people change more than others. I think people were way too critical of her and expected her to be something that she wasn't.

[@SocialExperiment232]

@@Rosef1re for real people would attack her for everything. I remember one time on Instagram one of her photos was heavily criticized and slut shamed into oblivion because she was wearing a tube top… it was literally a t shirt that she had cut into a tube top and everyone was like “she just has to make everything sexual” “she can’t just wear a tshirt she has to make it “sexy”” when today women get praised for being liberated, and for being on onlyfans and things of the sort. It was so stupid, she really was bulliiiiied. I would see the same people comment on every video calling her a whore, people speculating on her relationships, etc I def understand why she left.

[@Rosef1re]

@@SocialExperiment232 yes I remember that! It was wild. Honestly she is so beautiful, like legit one of the prettiest people I've ever seen and I think so much of the hate she got came from a place of jealousy.

[@sp0okyfae]

i started watching her videos when i was going from 8th grade to highschool. she really helped me stay positive. out of all of her styles she always kept her kindness is key moral. the internet could really use more people like her.

[@Yandereebunniee]

Leda really was an inspiration to me. My first tattoo was an art piece of hers and when I tweeted it at her she loved it. It made me so happy and I will always cherish having her art on me forever

[@sincerelysierraa5213]

I randomly just had a vivid memory of Leda, I haven’t thought of her in yearssss. I couldn’t think of her name so I went down a rabbit hole of scene youtube women and fucking found her picture I knew I would find because they used to be everywhereeee. I used to watch every video of hers and felt so close to her, I grew up with her then she just disappeared. I’m so glad I found this and thought of it. I miss her

[@lotuslabyrinth666]

Leda is known to disappear online for a while. She takes steps back from time to time. For old school major fans we know it’s probably just a hiatus. But always hoping it really isn’t a serious reason why she left 💔

[@Angelaaa1015]

It’s been years now I don’t think she is coming back.

[@mikaylanaquin6805]

​@@Angelaaa1015It was years last time too. She still came back eventually.

[@overdosedmiawallace]

I do remember she still used tumblr after quitting other social media but i can't even remember. Her influence on so many teenagers including me is incredible. She wasn't just a typical influencer, her vlogs flowed so naturally, she was trying to live her best life. I think we all kinda wished for that life she showed, it was too good to be true! ALSO some alleged information was circulating that she got pregnant at like 14, people either made all that up or spread some really private information no one needed to know

[@ThinkingInProgress]

Thank you so much for covering her 🙏 it’s good to know she’s alright and I check in on her social media every once in a while so I did see a comment that you mentioned, but I have a feeling she’s done with the internet for good but I still miss her so much either way

[@LaurennM360]

I’m around the same age as Leda and I remember watching her stuff because she reminded me of one my friends. She was funny and random and positive. I really enjoyed her content growing up cause she seemed genuinely just goofy and fun to be around. I wish all the best for her and I hope she is enjoying her life off social media. It’s honestly much better for mental health and I know there were a couple times she made videos or spoke about mental health and how she dealt with depression as a teen. I really hope she’s thriving. ❤️

[@IAmLucipurr]

I loved this girl so much. I knew her as ledamonsterbunny. i was so sad when she disappeared. weird though... my best friend's handle for her accounts is lvl1critter and idk if she got that from leda or not but I didn't know that was also Leda's handle for tumblr

[@marsii]

That's a sweet story, I would guess she did get it from leda

[@AnniPandaRawr]

aw yeah that was her gaming youtube channel name as well i believe

[@EternalBeautyTV]

I remember watching her whe. I was 15 and a major crush on her when i was young. 27 now and just randomly had a thought about her and wanted to see how she was doing. Great video!

[@askinganime6023]

If Leda wasn't attractive do you think she would still have gotten popular? I wonder if her success is a product of pretty privilege

[@alandanger6285]

​@@askinganime6023 Yes, people like to see attractive people, big shock. You'll need to bring something to the table if your looks don't cut it, be interesting, funny, or be "based". Its not unusual to see "ugly" people (both men and women) having good subscribers count. Not the level PewDiePie had, but great numbers at the end of the day.

[@billreed3265]

Bro same 26 now

[@xxsweetangelxx]

There is also one KZbinr, Sarah Christine Fowler, who completely disappeared. She had a style similar to Alex Dorame and Leda Muir. Her last video was posted somewhere at the time Alex Dorame last posted hers, I think. Also, there is Amber McCrackin, KZbinr who also shares similar style with the mentioned KZbinrs, who last posted 2 years ago. I sometimes think of all those girls and hope they are alright and living a peaceful life. Just a recommendation if you want to explore their stories. Great video by the way:) You are really trying hard and deserve more subscribers:)

[@marsii]

Thanks for the suggestions, I look a bit into Sarah, I am going to put Sarah and the other lady in my videos idea list so I don't forget. I'm working on the next video at the moment, I'm going to try two videos and see how they perform and go from there, if one of them does well it almost guarantees that I'll make a video about Sarah

[@nikitamcfarlane9193]

Sarah posts on her instagram every so often. She’s very much not an ‘influencer’ anymore or really online at all, it’s just a normal account and her doing normal kid things for her age. Last I saw she was studying and worked at a food chain and just bought her first car.

[@AlphaJDM]

​@@nikitamcfarlane9193she's like 21-22 now, probably has a real career at this point and just doesn't really want to be bothered with social media anymore

[@xxx-tp9yk]

Also I can confirm both Leda & Alex are fine and well, they wanted to step away from all of this for quite some time, they both started out very young and had a lot of trauma and bad experiences + ultimately it wasn’t what they wanted to do. They’re doing they’re own stuff now and mostly want to be left alone, but they’ve both stepped back from their projects as well as social media, for the time being at least for the time being and are really just being and living like normal people.

[@marsii]

I appreciate your comment, it can be tricky with private accounts and knowing the true extent of things but I'm glad they're well

[@xxmrsxmcrxx]

I wonder what she looks like now, and if her style has evolved. I miss her 😔

[@marsii]

Maybe you'll get your answers sometime

[@TimeMovie93150]

gosh i remember being an insecure teenager fascinated in the scene queen style and leda was someone i really looked up to. i always felt a connection with her, i'm happy she's offline and focusing on herself and doing ok

[@gracefulbarbie]

i miss her so much Leda please come back (when you are ready ofc) we love you😢💕

[@champagnesupernova777]

I used to love Leda ❤️ I hope she’s still doing well and that she’s taking time for herself

[@sageofspace]

I just found your channel through your alex dorame video and scrolled through and noticed you've been on KZbin for quite a long time. Im glad your channels getting more views you seem to put alot of genuine effort into your videos. I subscribed and am excited to see you're future content.

[@marsii]

Thank you, quite a long time indeed. This was the second channel I made, the first one no longer exists but yeah, been doing videos for a while now, I enjoy it. You can see the change in editing programs and microphone and everything if you go back far enough.

[@Crystal2Castles]

I miss her, she was such a huge part of "my life" in a way, a big inspiration to me as we had so much in common. I hope she's happy and doing fine! ❤ I wonder what hair colour she has these days 😊

[@quieteyes307]

If I were Leda I’d delete my accounts too. With cancel culture and people being so offended all the time, I’d never want to be online again either.

[@Angelaaa1015]

She literally has stated several times she didn’t like to be online

[@persephonehades7547]

It's honestly kinda wild seeing things I was in the thick of being talked about like this. I remember this all felt like forever, especially when her final video in HaiiLedaBear aired. I think there were a lot of reasons for her to step away from the internet based off of just what I remember. She was harassed online for "changing" a lot, which she did but so does every other creator on the platform. She was also harassed for monetization and things she would do to her own body (namely tattoos, how she would bleach and dye her hair, etc). I remember these comments vividly. In a way, a lot of the things people were pressuring her to do or not do or were trying to paint her as were from the very beginning of people just bullying creators on KZbin for similar things. We see remnants of this on other creators' channels at the time (pre-2015 era), and it, to me as a fan, really feels like she was one of the very first creators that started to receive this treatment. A lot of the scene creators at the time would eventually be subject to this too since, well, people don't stay in that phase forever yet it's highly impressionable to younger audiences. I guess what I'm trying to say as part of my two cents is that in a time and era of KZbin where the audience didn't know how to handle a creator who's at this point is in their very late teens to early 20s (ie, the most unstable period of personality) and ended up mistreating them for it, Leda had no actual person online to emulate and possibly didn't even have the reassurance she'll be okay at the end of it all. She was the prototype, essentially, and as such she couldn't handle it. She seemed to have trauma, which she talked about in the newest channel, and it could probably be linked to that. There's also another angle to take this from what I remember. She shared a lot about herself, her friends, her family, even her own home. Some details she disclosed are things I can totally see her embarrassment for. For the record, I don't really think she shared anything that shameful or that bad. I'm just saying that under a certain mentality and possibility paranoia, I could see trying to be a public online figure being difficult and even potentially unsafe when you know there's some laundry out on the line. And then there was also COVID in 2020. I think that's self-explanatory. I'm even still struggling in a post-lockdown world. I miss her though. I was hoping when I looked her up just now that I would see her updates.

[@Rosef1re]

I looked up to Leda a lot growing up, she was a big inspiration to a lot of us. I think a big part of her having such a difficult time with the internet was because she had some pretty rabid fans and haters. She is so beautiful that I think it can sometimes almost be a detriment to her. I remember seeing a lot of terrible comments on her videos and gossip forums from extremely jealous people who seemed to revel in the fact that she was struggling. It was quite bizarre.

[@Angelaaa1015]

I loved Leda as a teen and tbh now that it’s been a few years since she went offline it’s weird to me that grown adults are still obsessed with her… the girl should have never returned to the internet and just kept living her life. She has publicly mentioned how much she hates the internet and being in the public eye and yet people to this day are still trying to find out where she is. It’s no one’s business where she is and what she is doing she doesn’t own anyone a thing.

[@laneybugg2825]

I miss her so much but god I wouldn’t want to be famous on the internet with children either

[@aliceatrocious]

So with the issue on copywrited music, I think back then you had to contact the artist themselves to get permission to use their music, i think it might have been easier in the scene community because a lot of people became friends with the people who were in the popular bands at the time. I could be mistaken though. Leda has been through a lot, and I know that's an understatement, there's a few other videos I've seen talking about her breaks from social media, she herself has also talked about some of the things that happened to her back then. Whatever might be going on now, I just hope she's safe and happy, because that's what she deserves after having to endure so much. I've been a fan of hers for quite some time, but I truly think we just need to let her have her space right now, and hope she comes back when she's ready. Much love

[@oceaneyes4518]

Would love to see a video on Felice Fawn. :)

[@marsii]

You're the second person to suggest it

[@Dvrkling]

I miss Leda.

[@kitkat88816]

I followed this blog that said she had a daughter not that long ago i really hope she happier of line like Jenna marbles

[@marsii]

The tiktok also implies that she likely had a kid, I also think someone else said so too but I don't think it's worth speculating in a video of that makes sense?

[@SocialExperiment232]

Omg I wish I could congratulate her. If that’s true we had a kid around the same time ❤ I miss her I hope she’s ok

[@YourBigHorse]

Some of these youtubers might have left because they don’t want this sort of attention so it’d be good to try to contact them first for any future videos like this

[@marsii]

Leda has been offline for years, I guess I could have reached out even if I didn't get a response. Frank doesn't have social media, Alex's accounts are private and Anna's been offline for years. These videos aren't meant to pry, just give fans closure but I understand your angle.

[@YourBigHorse]

@@marsii yeah I understand, it wasn’t meant to be criticism of this video just a recommendation if you continue this type of video

[@thelightvampire2337]

Some people claim that she got pregnant and left the internet to take time for her partner and child others claim that she is a victim of Covid and probably didn't make it but who knows whatever is true. Leda is a grown up woman and it can be indeed true she started a family cause she is around the age most women start a family. Like I know most of Leda her friends having children being married so the chance is big she decided to start her own family. Knowing Leda she probably will show up one or another day because she also disapeared for a couple of years, years ago

[@spoogaloogy]

Could you do a vid on hypesage? I used to watch his channel when I was 12 but it seems like he disappeared from the platform.

[@marsii]

I'll look into it

[@Nebrvskv]

I think same theory as murderotic. Dissappeared for a while to find her true self.

[@AnaOdaliz]

I miss her

[@witchingbrew3]

I remember target stole one of her pictures and put it on a t shirt for sale.

[@marsii]

Oh damn, I hadn't heard about that

[@meatcubeachieved]

One of the last leda videos I watched she mentioned having a huge tattoo on the back of her hands removed because she wanted to become an actress. I think it was post dating the youtuber MattG124 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@marsii]

I saw stuff about her tattoos but I didn't mention them in this video because I didn't think they had anything to do with her leaving

[@LexFerraro]

you should do that josephine “hosie” girl. she was associated with nugs. i know she became a mom but still posted.

[@marsii]

I haven't ever heard of her honestly but I'll look into it

[@jasminab3908]

Kinda hard to find anything about her tho

[@Mooonfemme]

Yesssss

[@marsii]

I covered Hosie in another video recently

[@LexFerraro]

@@marsii oh shoot i’m running to it!!!! sorry my entire life fell to pieces🥰 this actually brought a smile to my face for the first time in three weeks. i know it’s stupid but……

[@Skiamakhos]

BTW it's pronounced "myoor", not "mer".

[@marsii]

Thanks for that, you'd hate to hear how I pronounce the Dorame in Alex Dorame 😂

[@shawty25mj]

I miss rena, yall remember rena?

[@marsii]

I don't know who Rena is?

[@shawty25mj]

@@marsii that was her BFF and in her early videos!

[@shawty25mj]

@@marsii look up leda muir and rena and she comes up!

[@kayc5496]

Serena Chaos***

[@shawty25mj]

@@moonstrobes1 I'm gonna cry, I am glad you also remember those days!

[@AnniPandaRawr]

i miss leda but i just hope she’s happy i love her so much. she means so much to me

[@alyssaperez6647]

Pls do Austin Mahone's best friend from his old yt videos

[@marsii]

I'll look into it

[@Punkneverdies]

I’m so so sad I loved Alex I idolized her everyday she made my few like I was something I loved her style I’m so so sorry I’m heartbroken

[@SarahKinz]

Please do hannyminx/ hannyjinx. Or Vanessa vandalism

[@marsii]

I'll look into them, I have a list of people that have been suggested, not everyone has enough to add or say about to make a video like this but I do look into them

[@vortexofself]

God, I miss the Vanessa Vandalism vs Lee Lightning days lmao

[@NateBirthday]

Felice Fawn

[@marsii]

You're the third person to suggest her

[@nightelfkid4421]

she had instagram like a year ago

[@DaniBee2900]

leda was a big part of my youth

[@marsii]

I think it's important these people aren't forgotten

[@волк-ы1ш]

Me too

[@JaceyMitchell]

I used to watch Leda's content. It's a shame she left, but that's how it goes. She seems to be doing well nowadays so I'm happy for her. A lot of the internet famous scene/myspace/VampireFreaks kids have fallen off the radar simply because they've moved on with their lives: Lucien Lake, Jayden Asphyxia, Jack__x/Jackson Moretti (who dated Jayden Asphyxia back in the early 2010s and they were kind of the power couple of the VampireFreaks scene), BarbieHatesPink, JacobyShadow, Anka Kovshar (a Russian scene girl who was absolutely gorgeous), and Brittany Jean/Brittany Maki/0h_fcuk were all huge names back in the day, but nowadays there's hardly a trace of them to be found if you search Google. Brittany Jean was around until about 2021 and by that point she was kind of the last one standing. All of them except Jayden Asphyxia are alive and well. I believe Jayden Asphyxia passed in the late 2010s (I think he had cancer?) Most of them have just grown up and lead normal happy lives off the internet.

[@marsii]

A lot of names I haven't heard of, nor VampireFreaks, sounds like a whole new can of worms

[@i5eedeadpeople]

what happened to mars' videos on your channel?

[@marsii]

You mean me making them? The recent videos have been doing well on a side of KZbin I haven't explored, I'm just riding the wave. I wanted to make the crankthatfrank video for a long time and I did similar style videos, like in-depth commentary on the second channel and it didn't really work so I thought I'd try it here.