Much like your demo it suggested 6 panels in landscape (on north roof). But we have 8. 5 in portrait and 3 in landscape in the same space on the south roof (it doesn't quote for the south roof as it sees the current panels as obstacles on the roof) Also I don't see the point in them itemising the items if they are going to add huge margins. The Trina panels are around £55 excluding vat but they are quoting £113 per panel. We also used Fastensol mounting equipment and and you could buy enough for about 4 houses for £1300! 😂 So they are doing this to try and make the labour costs seem lower. So that £3275 for the insulation and scaffolding is probably more like £4.5k in real numbers. Even spreading it out across two short days is quite a chunk of money. So from an ease of use tool it looks quite good. Edit: to add tried a few houses and it always seems to give landscape panels and never offers up any portrait.
@Biggest-dh1vrАй бұрын
The site doesn't try that hard to fit panels in compared to easy PV as far as I can tell.
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Interesting 🤔
@paolonicoli5740Ай бұрын
Great video, thank you for sharing it! Can I suggest trying another free tool to calculate energy production at home? The tool is developed by Eosflow. The Trial tool provides system pricing in Euros, with realistic estimates for the Irish market. You might consider the gross price in Euros equal to the Pound to account for MCS-related costs, as there are no MCS requirements in Ireland. The installation cost is probably cheaper in Ireland too as the scaffolding is not required. There are no Grants in the UK and VAT is not applied like in Ireland.
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Thanks! I will take a look.
@TheRonskimanАй бұрын
I used Easy PV for my panel layout and racking requirements, and used PVGIS to get predicted generation. Speedy PV certainly looks quick and easy.
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@Joe-lb8qnАй бұрын
Interesting. Nice and simple. Needs amending to suggest larger batteries as default and ability to change them. Also doesn't seem to suggest bird proofing which IMO should always be included.
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Good point!
@sygad1Ай бұрын
do you have a link, don't seem to be able to find one, cheers
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
easy-pv.co.uk/speedy-pv/demo
@9111logicАй бұрын
Interesting, thought tested on an existing roof, thanks for the share 🙏 But what if one needs to evaluate the same on a building that is not yet completed and therefore not on the maps as yet? And what about cases like mine, obviously late for me as it is already built, where the installation will be on the ground or on top of a potential car port?
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
@@9111logic manually doing this with easypv or even pvgis will be the way in those cases 👍
@markdearden1697Ай бұрын
Tried using it on our house, and it has been scanning our roof for half an hour now! Satellite image of the correct property in the background the whole time. The image is quite low res, so perhaps the system can't analyse it. So definitely not a universal solution. I thought the cost breakdown were very interesting, but now I see in the comments that they're distorted. Woops, just realised that was with Easy PV from your link. Will try again with Speedy.
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Ah, that's a shame.
@DavidGoodwinUKАй бұрын
for me, the speedy-pv one detects our roof a lot better - and automatically covers two aspects. But this does mean it suggests 22 panels (which seems a lot, given heatable suggest 9 but quotes for 12).
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Glad it's working for you. When it comes to panels, more is more!
@Sean_S1000Ай бұрын
Not a bad tool for getting a ball park figure, would be nice to have flexibility or changing inverters or panels. The price is bit more than expected on a 12 panel system, maybe it just me being cheap
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@adrianflower3230Ай бұрын
Had a play. It thought my conservatory/patio was a roof. Tried to edit it and change the roof location, but failed. Could be user error, but despite using the manual draw roof, it would not let me remove the autogenerated 2x roofs it saw first 🤷♀
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting.
@michaelgreen5515Ай бұрын
Great tool just it does not pick up my actual house. I do live in rural Northern Ireland on a farm and we are the only house in the field so sould be straight forward. Anyone else have this issue? There is no contact page either on the tool link?
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Sorry to hear that.
@makemineapintАй бұрын
Just tried it, really quick and easy but I feel you could get a few more panels on the roof and the price seemed a touch high.
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting.
@mikegriffith4435Ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
You are welcome!
@lib_fАй бұрын
Seems a bit confused by my roof, but then my house is a peculiar shape. Only suggests 8 panels but I've got 11 up there!
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@justinjoanknecht3475Ай бұрын
Wonder how it will cope with my lack of google satellite imagery here...will try!
@justinjoanknecht3475Ай бұрын
can't find online!?!?!? do you have a URL?
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
easy-pv.co.uk/speedy-pv/demo
@jonnythompson2711Ай бұрын
Hi I can’t seem to access the tool on its own? The only way it seems available is to have an easypv pro account? Can someone help direct me. Thanks
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
easy-pv.co.uk/speedy-pv/demo
@SimonPerkins-j8rАй бұрын
Have just tried it on our house we already have south facing. It wouldn’t let me put north facing on for some reason
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Good feedback.
@kevinmatthews2620Ай бұрын
@@UpsideDownFork same here would not let me put my north facing roof on, already have 16 south facing panels on the rear roof ??
@FRZ5951Ай бұрын
I used the tool a few times, on a couple of addresses but each time it chose the wrong roof, which it would not let me change? Anyway looks good apart from that.
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Ah, that's a shame. I must be lucky with the mapping and the satellite imaging in my local area!
@janhenkinsАй бұрын
Do you have a link, please? Thanks closest I get is by Easy PV, and that does not allow me to add my North facing roof to the equation. All the others wants my inner thigh measurents which of course generate unwanted phone calls.
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
easy-pv.co.uk/speedy-pv/demo
@aclellandАй бұрын
Is that price reasonable these days? I had a 2 string, 12 panel 4.4kw system installed in 2021 for £5,500. At £7,500 with no battery storage seems insane to me, especially given how dirt cheap the panels are. Buying them from Midsummer direct would only be £800-1000 depending on the exact model and that's the public pricing.
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Pricing increases significantly once you need scaffolding for more than one aspect. Panels are cheaper these days but almost everything else has gone up, including labour rates.
@DanielEarlesterАй бұрын
17 year payback for the first system is probably a no go. Looks an easy and comprehensive tool.
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@mjcamp01Ай бұрын
@@UpsideDownFork I can't find this speedy pv tool? In your description you've only linked to easy pv, which looks like a different page?
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
@@mjcamp01 easy-pv.co.uk/speedy-pv/demo
@adrianflower3230Ай бұрын
.... then, tried on 3x different browsers, they all froze at the "scanning your roof" page
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Weird. I haven't had any such issues personally.
@kevindavis8442Ай бұрын
I think this tool would put anybody off, £7100 for a 3.5kWp system that will generate 3000kWh per year and a payback of 16 years .. yes 16 years, and if I add the battery, 20 years payback, I just installed a 12.6kWp system, with a 16kWh battery, and an export agreement of 5.1kW which cost me 8k in total, ok I self installed, and have to go through all the paperwork myself, and apply for the Octopus self install export stuff .. cant compare a self install with a business install I guess though, but these systems seem kind of expensive.
@kevindavis8442Ай бұрын
Installation and scaffolding 3k, well scaffolding is around 700 quid around here, so 2300 for a couple of lads for a couple of days work .. seems excessive.
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@Glyn001Ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Thanks!
@bill_heywoodАй бұрын
That is a quick and easy tool to use. Sadly not helpful to me to see what I add to my NW roof. Great for anyone without any panels
@Biggest-dh1vrАй бұрын
I can create roofs that aren't picked up automatically by the toll, and then add obstacles as necessary?
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting
@KavanOBrienАй бұрын
Why is the government putting solar on farm land or creating solar farms ? Obviously they have to buy the land and then install the solar panels miles from anywhere and link it to the grid , being in remote areas will cost more to install with it just be in a remote area , why are they not just putting the panels on peoples roofs free of charge so those who decide to have them on their roofs will get a discount on the electric bills , surely that would be more cost effective compared to creating a whole new infrastructure miles from anywhere, peoples roofs the infrastructure is already there to link to the grid , is this idea far too logical for any government to get their heads around a concept that would actually be more cost affective for the tax paying public and consumers , or this concept in investing in the future with helping the consumers at the same time is wash your mouth out we soap scenario = how dare you think logically = political thinking is not a place where logic is allowed.
@UpsideDownForkАй бұрын
The government isn't, businesses are because it's a profitable way to make use of the land.
@KavanOBrienАй бұрын
@@UpsideDownFork Trying hard to understand that concept , as a business cost me a fortune to create a solar farm with all the economic layout needed one being remote, two in connection to the grid , versus 70 houses in my street all of which could accommodate 10 panels on each roof and that’s only one side of the roof being south facing = 770 panels as said just one half of the roof and already connected to the grid , maybe that’s why I’m not in business because that makes no sense to me , because my roof farm makes much more economical sense = but what do I know = obviously not a lot .
@makemineapintАй бұрын
@@KavanOBrien ground based solar is way cheaper to install, less skilled labour required, no scaffolding, ground mount is far quicker and easier to install than roof rails etc, simpler electrics (rather than different installs in each house), fewer bigger industrial rather than domestic inverters, monitoring is easier and they typically link to a major electricity substation that's designed to export power rather than just destribute it.
@kevindavis8442Ай бұрын
Well governments dont want us plebs to benefit now do they, they want their mates who own the land to get the benefit .. remember, Governments dont work for you, they work for their own self interests, with your money I hasten to add ..
@KavanOBrienАй бұрын
@@makemineapint OK, you do bring up some good points but here each roof is the same plus we already have a sub station in the middle of our street for all the solar input into the substation would distribute the power to the houses so no need to have inverters for each house , so again I say would be interesting to do a cost analysis with 770 panels on my roof farm solar compared to the solar farm irrespective of easy installation, can you imagine if I rang a company up for 770 solar panels to be installed in one contract one would like to think the discount would be quite considerable,