The Worst DIY Solar Install I’ve Ever Seen! 😨

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Artisan Electrics

Artisan Electrics

Күн бұрын

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@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
Comment below if you can spot all the compliance issues! 🫢
@philthewriter
@philthewriter Ай бұрын
This has to be trolling you
@edglue6138
@edglue6138 Ай бұрын
Yo
@martinwillems3828
@martinwillems3828 Ай бұрын
{if you can spot all the compliance issues} - ALL ? That is a lot ! They must be very lucky that this goes well for more than a year 😅
@ftrueck
@ftrueck 29 күн бұрын
How are regulations for you? Are you responsible now because you saw it? Are you forced legally to report the consumer to the authorities? In any case: If I would be the one being asked I would see myself in a conflict. If I run away, the customer will live with that until the house burns down. If I quote a stupid price to help him, he will leave it anyways. So if I really want to help him I have to give a feasible price so that he lets me help. But in that case I am responsible for the work I did, so I have to make sure to check everything from A to Z which involves a ton of extra work.
@ABa-os6wm
@ABa-os6wm 27 күн бұрын
Isn't this a DC arc at 1:08 ?????
@-TheSingularity-
@-TheSingularity- Ай бұрын
Fair play to the guy for actually being able to connect it up and for being brave enough to get you in to sort it out
@DaleMarriott1337
@DaleMarriott1337 21 күн бұрын
Got to agree that's is beyond a DIY level install. While its not to electrician standard he's done pretty well to connect all that up. I have a similar system installed properly, I actually paid someone to install it as I thought it was a bit out of scope for what I normally do. However looking back I could have probably installed it. Just a few connections I'd have been a bit stumped on as I was studying electrical at the time. I toyed with inverters before I had mine installed but I'd have never attempted this.
@reflex9991
@reflex9991 Ай бұрын
That's not DIY, that's kitchen fitter level
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@gadgetman36
@gadgetman36 Ай бұрын
Or builder level
@spankeyfish
@spankeyfish Ай бұрын
Can confirm, the lights in my kitchen cupboards are wired up in the most surreal way I've ever seen.
@007jamesbond32
@007jamesbond32 Ай бұрын
more like a builder's special
@frednimrod2333
@frednimrod2333 Ай бұрын
that is below 'kitchen fitter' standard only by a small margin
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 Ай бұрын
I'm guessing he started with the Victron system and took his time, making it all neat and using his label maker to label everything. Then he got fed up with how long it was taking and decided to just "get it working" with a plan to do it properly later and later has been postponed and postponed for the last year before he finally admitted defeat and called you. I can sympathise - I'm sure it all seemed like a good idea at the time.
@TheRonskiman
@TheRonskiman Ай бұрын
It does take a long time, and another problem he's got is if the Victron is turned off then no electric in the house. I had two large and expensive change over switches fitted, so I can bypass my Quattro if need be. That's also a top of the range Quattro 48/15000 which is a 12kW inverter.
@spankeyfish
@spankeyfish Ай бұрын
Nothing more permanent than a temporary fix.
@awinbisa
@awinbisa Ай бұрын
I reckon somebody competent did the first bit. I can’t see somebody starting doing a neat compliant job and then making such a ballsup later. Maybe stopped paying the installer.
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 Ай бұрын
@awinbisa That's possible, but it's only a day's work, maybe two, so you wouldn't expect any intermediate payments.
@marksapollo
@marksapollo Ай бұрын
I rbi k it's more like a case of he fitted it, thought of tidying it up and never bothered and his wife DEMANDED he get it sorted after she saw the mess it was in and he told her this is a love cable, this is the cable from the house etc etc.
@GuyChapman
@GuyChapman Ай бұрын
There's nothing as permanent as a temporary lash-up...
@zaxmaxlax
@zaxmaxlax Ай бұрын
its clearly working, for over a year 😂
@Scaliad
@Scaliad 26 күн бұрын
So true...
@gavjlewis
@gavjlewis Ай бұрын
Love it. He sees the wiring as acceptable but feels the need to mount a fire extinguisher and first aid box on the wall for safety! 😂
@wazza33racer
@wazza33racer 19 күн бұрын
Some people cant change a flat tyre without being a danger to themselves. This is not a DIY issue, its a lack of attention and effort issue, and people do that in the work place all the time. Just because someone has a qualification doesnt mean they cant be negligent,stupid and dangerous.
@steverturnsk6190
@steverturnsk6190 Ай бұрын
Give them SOME credit. The setup is inside a cinder block shed away from the main house. The DC part is pretty safe. The system functions. They realized there were issues and did call you to straighten it all up for them.
@berry120
@berry120 Ай бұрын
I'm still half convinced this is all a massive troll... it's so creatively bad it almost looks deliberate.
@jiribartos2079
@jiribartos2079 Ай бұрын
You are wrong. I have worse at home - but no one can go near it until I fix it.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
I wish it was...
@_Miner
@_Miner Ай бұрын
Option D. quote at the going rate, safe isolation, rip out all the unsecured and bad wiring then redo everything correctly. While yes it is very dangerous its actually not a massive job to put right like you said, terminate the swa and fix it then run the ac to/from the quatro, enclose the et meters and maybe replace that garage CU. just looks like a bigger job than it actually is.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
😎
@aviateur17
@aviateur17 Ай бұрын
No issue there. They have the fire extinguisher on the wall ready to go if something goes south. Just need to get past that barrier.
@epmorris
@epmorris Ай бұрын
And the first aid kit!
@mistermikeanson
@mistermikeanson Ай бұрын
@@epmorris That's for when you trip over the barrier!!
@mels8966
@mels8966 Ай бұрын
I believe they make a lot of modern fire extinguishers out of plastic composites, so it could be too close to the seat of a potential fire, and melt or catch fire itself!
@LawrenceTimme
@LawrenceTimme Ай бұрын
See all these regulations. Yet its been working perfectly for over a year. All this scare monging health and safety.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
🤣🤣
@peterscrutton5507
@peterscrutton5507 Ай бұрын
The 1A breaker in the neutral is probably protecting the neutral of the Carlo Garvazzi et112. That is ok as the only reason for having a neutral on the meter is to power it. They actually suggest something like a 500ma fuse. Otherwise a complete and utter mess!
@fillybuster8371
@fillybuster8371 25 күн бұрын
Why is a breaker for N needed on the meter? For mine (Germany) I only have breakers for L1 - L3 to prevent fire in case of a meter malfunction. Is there voltage on N in GB or am I missing something? Or does the breaker on N replace the breaker on L? But what if there is a short between two phases?
@craigiedema1707
@craigiedema1707 Ай бұрын
It's wild, but there's also ample space and cable length to terminate every into the correct enclosures etc. At least it's fixable. But it will take a lot more to fix than if was just done correctly in the first place.
@Tom-zy6ke
@Tom-zy6ke 23 күн бұрын
It is ALWAYS much harder to fix somebody else's work than to do it right in the first place because you have to figure out where you want to get to, then work out where you are, and then figure out how to transition with least cost, effort, and disruption. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and start over.
@Smartrician
@Smartrician Ай бұрын
That has to be staged 😂 no one would buy Victron and BYD and get that messed up 😮
@bas5946
@bas5946 Ай бұрын
Totally staged, half the install looks decent, the rest looks thrown together for click bait. Main supply on a 1Amp MCB, that wouldn't even work for the lowest of house demands. BS click bait as per usual with Artisan.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
We wish this was true but we didn't touch a thing, well, we didn't dare to touch any of it.
@stevec00ps
@stevec00ps Ай бұрын
@@bas5946 That 1 amp breaker is just to supply the neutral on that power monitoring device so it has power itself to run
@techtactics788
@techtactics788 24 күн бұрын
You mean you walked away from the install? ​@@artisanelectrics
@Garysvideos
@Garysvideos 16 күн бұрын
I’m not an electrician or plumber but I have only had one electrician (fit an induction hob) and one plumber ( fit a kitchen tap that I couldn’t access myself unless I bought the correct tool) in 28 years, the rest I did myself. Thank you KZbin, saved me thousands.
@Why_ask_
@Why_ask_ Ай бұрын
This is wonderful, I am bookmarking as an example. This is worse than the worst wiring I have seen before. Unfortunately, the worst I have ever seen previously was done by either by a licensed electrician or some apprentice who was supposed to be supervised by one. Going through that house, I once counted 6 code violations in a single receptacle box. BTW, I respect the person who did this work. He is fortunate not to have started a fire, but I appreciate the effort in trying and the research he did figuring out what to do. This combination of curiosity and the good sense to realize his best effort did not look right is rare.
@shuhel02
@shuhel02 Ай бұрын
* So it appears the armoured cable coming into this garage/shed destined for the AC Out1 on the Quattro was 'too short'. The customer then lashed up some temporary cabling to make it reach. * The DC in side of things appear to be in a fair condition but some cable management would be recommended. * There appears to be no DC protection in place between the solar array and the invertor. * There appears to be no secondary earth reference in place connected to any of the Victron appliances or battery cabinet. A earth rod would be recommended. * Is the board behind the Victron appliances fire retardant? * Victron recommend correct torque tightening on its connectors on the inverter, i would have this cross checked against the manual as it could sometimes invalidate the warranty.
@Ro32da72
@Ro32da72 Ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing the tidy-up! It's almost harder to do it this slapdash way, so props to your customer for it actually working without burning the house down. I reckon the call to get you in was his realisation that he's in over his head.
@petermichaelgreen
@petermichaelgreen Ай бұрын
It feels to me like the place he fell down was dealing with the 50mm² cable. I presume it was used for volt-drop reasons but the problem is that a lot of kit simply will not fit cable that big. And even if you have terminals that are big enough, you also need big boxes to give enough room to fan out the cable.
@johnwarwick4105
@johnwarwick4105 13 күн бұрын
I am guessing he is an IT guy. Got a nice Ethernet hub box at the side of the consumer unit. He has the knowledge to make it work so clearly not stupid. Worked with a few IT guys in industry and do have a tendency to “lash” their coms cables in like that with nothing routed or cut to length. ( apologies if you are a neat IT engineer); it’s very scary though, surprised he was happy for you to put it on KZbin, maybe hoping for a big discount
@UnfittedNoise
@UnfittedNoise Ай бұрын
How is this customer not embarrassed?
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
👀
@BillyGold007
@BillyGold007 Ай бұрын
That is Jordan critiquing his own DIY job at his house
@zaxmaxlax
@zaxmaxlax Ай бұрын
Why would him? He clearly knows his stuff and has money but its just a lazy bastard.
@simonupton-millard
@simonupton-millard Ай бұрын
​@@zaxmaxlaxif he was lazy they would have got the pros in to do it, they started well and for some reason raced through the most critical bits madness but at least someone in the property had the sence to call in the pros
@thecloudies
@thecloudies Ай бұрын
More accurately - How is this customer not DEAD?................
@arnoldreiter435
@arnoldreiter435 Ай бұрын
for all your roasting of the install it works and has been working for over a year without "blowing up" so go easy on the fella. some people are just messy in life. give credit that this diy installer called you to do what they could not....make it look pretty and conform to all the regulations. now i wonder if there was a spouse involved in getting this sorted out...lol
@craigchamberlain
@craigchamberlain Ай бұрын
It may well be a DIY installation but that's not the real issue is it? Incompetence and ignorance is the real issue and that can come in many forms, not just from DIY'ers. My own DIY Victron solar PV and battery installation received compliments from the electricians who subsequently installed my heat pump in the summer. They were even a little embarrassed that they didn't have their labelling machine with them so I used my Brother PT-E550 to print off a new label for the consumer unit. I also supplied them some electrical odds and ends to avoid a trip to the wholesaler. Why not just call out a very poor installation rather than labelling it unfairly? As for whether you should take on the work or not, I think you absolutely should provide an honest quotation, because this is clearly a dangerous installation as it stands. But I wouldn't blame you if you wanted to walk away dependent on the attitude of the customer. If they know they are out of their depth and need help then help them, otherwise walk away. If you do take it on then you have a great opportunity to highlight the difference between a dangerous installation, DIY or otherwise, and a professional one.
@alpacatje
@alpacatje Ай бұрын
I understand your point, and you seem to be quite skilled at DIY projects. However, trust me, more often than not, DIY installations end up being subpar and potentially (extremely) dangerous.
@craigchamberlain
@craigchamberlain Ай бұрын
@@alpacatje Hi, yeah I understand what you're saying and I know I'm probably a bit of an outlier given my background as a graduate in electronics and electrical engineering as well as being an electronics hobbyist since childhood. I'm also a bit OCD when it comes to any form of engineering and go to great lengths to ensure I'm doing things "correctly" at least to the best of my ability. I suppose my main objection to the video is the fact it feels like all DIY'ers are being tarred with the same brush and yet I rarely see poor or dangerous work attributed to cowboy professional electricians or other trades who do a bit of electrical work as part of a kitchen refit or general building work. We all know that happens and can be just as dangerous although the work in this video is next level for sure! :) I think there is also an inherent hypocrisy in mocking DIY'ers in a KZbin video when those very DIY'ers are probably a substantial if not a majority of the viewers. But don't get me wrong, I'm generally a big fan of Artisan Electrics and I also watch videos from Cory's channel, John Ward and CJR Electrical, and learn a lot. Hopefully some other DIY'ers who would already be inclined to do their own electrics might also learn enough to either do the job correctly or realise they are out of their depth and call a professional. I certainly wouldn't recommend to any of my friends or family that they tackle their own electrics and I wouldn't do any work for a friend or family member beyond maybe running a few non-invasive tests with my MFT. So yeah, I get it and will try not to take DIY-bashing personally but maybe in future just a simple acknowledgment that there are some decent DIY'ers out there would be appreciated. :)
@andydonnelly8677
@andydonnelly8677 Ай бұрын
What a mess! but very prominent in the video was that big red powder extinguisher, seems like they knew . . . . . .
@onemanwent4059
@onemanwent4059 18 күн бұрын
As an ex electricity board time served electrician, I joined an established ‘to remain un-named’ solar firm last year and was SO horrified with the quality of the electrics that I had to hand in my notice. Trying to leave was like leaving the mafia and I was scared for my life. The Solar industry is AWASH with fraudsters, scammers & unsavoury characters. Your observations are the tip of the iceberg 😢
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 29 күн бұрын
I'd go for B with the threat of C. I.e. "An Offer You Can't Refuse". And also go through the whole property while at it for other hidden issues.
@dominicgoodwin1147
@dominicgoodwin1147 Ай бұрын
I bet the owner is a graduate engineer.
@EverydayLife621
@EverydayLife621 Ай бұрын
No, he'll be an university academic who is teaching this in theory! - mine is similar 🥴
@deang5622
@deang5622 Ай бұрын
You must be a sparky trained to City and Guilds.
@custardsponge535
@custardsponge535 9 күн бұрын
Haha uni bad ​@@EverydayLife621
@ThePerson444
@ThePerson444 Ай бұрын
You can't contain your excitement to quote £350k to fix
@adamkuklych6672
@adamkuklych6672 Ай бұрын
I would love to see the tidied up end product. The only thing that MIGHT be compliant about that room is the fire extinguisher.
@mistermikeanson
@mistermikeanson Ай бұрын
Yes but they need ten more extinguishers!
@Alan-ln3ls
@Alan-ln3ls Ай бұрын
If it's in date.
@agarceran
@agarceran Ай бұрын
When you pick the cables at 1:07, does your ring spark?
@rupertm2542
@rupertm2542 Ай бұрын
This screams IT guy! The server cabinet and labelling are classic signs to me lol
@darrenmurphy6251
@darrenmurphy6251 Ай бұрын
iam an auto electrician and that wiring reminds me of model year 1990-2000 fiat/peugeot/citroen factory wiring!
@trs4u
@trs4u Ай бұрын
There's a lot of nice, not-cheap gear there! It's the juxtaposition of expensive kit - and a lot of it - and the half hour of bin-end bodging that boggles my mind.
@rkan2
@rkan2 Ай бұрын
If only the consumer unit came in a box prewired 😅
@zaxmaxlax
@zaxmaxlax Ай бұрын
He saved on labor but ended up needing an electrician either way 😂
@zaxmaxlax
@zaxmaxlax Ай бұрын
​@@rkan2😂😂😂 in france they do, and the MCBs are "push fit" so you techically dont even need to screw anything other than the mains and earth.
@rkan2
@rkan2 Ай бұрын
@@zaxmaxlax Ye I know there are ready consumer units all over the western world. But I was thinking such a setup where the wires were ready outside it too basically for the whole house and solar stuff :D Think it of like a car wiring harness but for a house or a part of it. :P Just plugin mains and earth.
@asdreww
@asdreww 9 күн бұрын
He was probably in a rush to get the power back on for the kids etc, & then life got in the way & the tidy-up just never happened
@stephengentle2815
@stephengentle2815 Ай бұрын
In Australia we have much stricter laws stopping people from being able to DIY anything on mains voltage. In practice this just stops the people who would do it by the book and perfectly competently, while the people who would do this kind of job still do (just more illegally). Normally nobody realises until a they buy a house without a proper building inspection and find a dangerous mess when they go to add a circuit or something, so almost none of the people doing a dodgy are ever caught anyway…
@a.karley4672
@a.karley4672 9 күн бұрын
Don't AU mortgage lenders *require* (with their famous flexibility) a "property condition report" of some sort before agreeing to secure a loan against a property?
@tezgale
@tezgale Ай бұрын
That's a scary install. If it's that bad, what is the house like 😱
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
Like a rats nest
@plonkster
@plonkster 27 күн бұрын
The measuring device on the hook is a Carlo Gavazzi ET112. Single phase energy meter. I maintain the software that reads that thing, among other things. The 1A breaker on the neutral to the energy meter is actually according to the Carlo Gavazzi wiring diagrams. It protects only the meter, there is no current on that neutral, it's only for voltage reference.
@getahanddown
@getahanddown Ай бұрын
If they've called to get you to help, B. It'll be a quote for time to 'disarm' this contraption, remove everything but the main units, test those then a new build
@samspadeau
@samspadeau Ай бұрын
Confidence is a belief about one's capabilities. Overconfidence is a discrepancy between this belief and reality
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
Agreed!
@pinkfloydvk
@pinkfloydvk Ай бұрын
Incredible. Hope you fix it and make a 2nd video covering it
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
👀
@RollingHousesUK
@RollingHousesUK 23 күн бұрын
WOW! 😲 I work on Motoromes and Campervans, fitting LiFePO4 batteries, solar and Inverters (I fit loads of victron kit). I’ve worked on plenty of “DIY” installs and seen some really shocking work, very similar to what you see here, but never seen anything quite this bad on this scale 🤦🏼‍♀️ .
@henrystevens2258
@henrystevens2258 29 күн бұрын
I find it hard to believe that even a DIY person done this and then bring you in to talk about it on KZbin. This is nonsense
@ice_wolf76
@ice_wolf76 Ай бұрын
the handy first aid kit behind you is priceless as well xD
@Reaktanzkreis
@Reaktanzkreis 27 күн бұрын
3:57 These cable are properly terminated with weidmueller DIN rail terminals , cables cross section aera fit the fuses current ratings. All fine. Electrons never bother with loose cables and lousy fittigs , it looks makeshift for testing the componets work well together. After all the owner make a neat installation.
@davideyres955
@davideyres955 Ай бұрын
I think the customer did a great job. Some electrical work and somewhere to hang his wet washing as well. Especially as it probably gets warm too. Jesus. I’ve done some temporary wiring in the past but I’m the only person in my house, but I’ve always tidied it up and made sure it was fully safe in the end right after proving it works. Just finished up boxing up my Shelly monitoring unit in a box with flex that’s ferruled into glands to make sure it’s sound with the Shelly being din rail mounted along with a solid state relay to isolate the Shelly from the power is monitoring and glanded wires for the temperature probes.
@alancobbin
@alancobbin Ай бұрын
A clear indication why Sparky’s have years and years of Training before one can touch a house install,How this has never burnt the house down I’ll never know,”I HAVE NO WORDS”!😳
@Felix-st2ue
@Felix-st2ue Ай бұрын
Well, to be fair, you just need a sense of order. The guy who built this clearly knows what he's doing; he just couldn't be bothered to do this orderly.
@theelectricmonk3909
@theelectricmonk3909 Ай бұрын
"How this has never burnt the house down I’ll never know" - As long as none of the bare wires touch each other, and none of the wires are overloaded, the chances of a fire (assuming the install is left undisturbed) is actually quite low. You're far more likely to get electrocuted when you trip over the "barrier" and land on the big armoured cable, tearing out live connections as you grab desperately at anything to arrest your fall...
@halesworth01
@halesworth01 Ай бұрын
If that was a car that went for it's MOT, you as the inspector would throw a 'Dangerous vehicle order' at it and not allow it to be driven away! As professional sparks, you should be allowed to break the seal on the house supply and cut them off and then seal their supply under the instruction to them (and their supplier) that any any electricity usage would be illegal, until 'brought up to a minimum standard' by a competent person!
@lukas181118
@lukas181118 Ай бұрын
Nobody can stop other person to do they things . For sure example with MOT is suck from the cloud . But hey I agree if you do something yourself do research, gain some knowledge and if you in doubt, step up the safety.
@gareth7548
@gareth7548 Ай бұрын
An MOT tester is not legally permitted to prevent a vehicle from being driven away.
@anthonydyer3939
@anthonydyer3939 Ай бұрын
If you do this, there’s a risk that you are putting your client, or their property, in danger. If they can no longer keep their house warm because of your action and they suffer from hypothermia as a result, or a pipe bursts in freezing weather and damages the property. I wouldn’t want to be defending such actions in court. There would also be a loss of reputation that goes with such action. You would end up being “that guy who cut off the Mr Xyz’s electricity”, and people would fear you in their own property as a result.
@neilmick6778
@neilmick6778 Ай бұрын
Good luck when someone's CPAP machine stops and you end up in prison for manslaughter
@johnnodge4327
@johnnodge4327 Ай бұрын
​@@gareth7548 No, but he's perfectly in his rights to call the police the second a dangerous vehicle is taken on the road.
@ruokeren1919
@ruokeren1919 21 күн бұрын
Looks ok - for Thailand. I don’t know electrical codes for UK but even in a DIY scenario, I don’t know how the owner/installer thought it ok to leave it like that. When I do unqualified DIY electrical work here (an Aussie in Thailand) I do it to Aussie electrical code except the M.E.N. System which is a tad different here than home. I’ve had to rewire my entire house, water pump house, carport, pergola due to absolute shoddy work by allegedly qualified local electricians (a joke in itself). I’ve been electrocuted at the water pump house where the electrician had switch the live and neutrals around the wrong way at the consumer unit, using the MEN system, leaving everything still “hot” even when breakers were off because the neutral (hot) input went straight to the neutral & earth bus bar.. Yeah shoulda checked first but my multimeter was broken so didn’t, couldn’t. Lived to tell the tale. I’ve got solar now. Happy as and thankfully nothing like yours.
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 23 күн бұрын
It's just amazing how people will leave stuff. It's not difficult to make it neat and tidy even if you are DIY'ing (which we aren't allowed to do in Australia). Why would you put your family at risk to save a few dollars? The actual solar side doesn't look difficult or too time consuming to fix - a bit of trunking, perhaps trimming a few cables to length. But they need a new switchboard (consumer unit for the UK guys) and that ain't going to be cheap and the diabolical connection between the board and the Victron won't take too long to sort out. Just rip it out and start from scratch 😅 And what's with the cover not being on the Victron and one cable not even going through the access hole? That's just lazy. The other thing I definitely advise is a changeover switch for the Victron - because currently everything runs into the Victron then out of it and back to the board. If you need to service the Victron Multiplus, or if it fails, the circuits it's supplying will lose power. The Victron has two AC outputs - one that's only on when mains is present and one that continues to supply power in the event of an outage. So I'd also advise setting up the circuits the Victron is supplying in the event of an outage on a separate sub panel (essential loads panel) - it's neater, clearer for anyone working on the system etc, plus you can separate heavy loads so they only go on the other AC outputs and don't drain the battery in the event of an outage (eg air cons, water heaters, dryers etc, perhaps the oven although my Victron happily runs that.)
@wazza33racer
@wazza33racer 19 күн бұрын
Dont get me started on the dodgy contractor installed solar botches done here in Australia. Consumer Affairs say 1 in 4 are defective.
@RednaelET
@RednaelET Ай бұрын
This install looks really dangerous, primarily because of the flying connections, that could become loose and cause a fire. It surprises me, that the system actually works, but at the same time it's terrifying, that this situation existed more than a year. Imagine a child walks around and touches one of the conductors. I wouldn't immediately call the police, but first offer the customer a solution to fix that. So I hope you or someone else will take care of this install and make it save and pretty.
@nickshearing-brown140
@nickshearing-brown140 Ай бұрын
I am loving the fire extinguisher and first aid kit!
@rfitzgerald2004
@rfitzgerald2004 29 күн бұрын
7:27 - at least there's a fire extinguisher on hand though right 😂😂
@rfitzgerald2004
@rfitzgerald2004 29 күн бұрын
Looking at the state of the install I would guess it's been worked on by multiple people. Maybe he had good intentions with the Victron and had someone start out setting that up then decided to save some money and take over the rest himself maybe?
@rfitzgerald2004
@rfitzgerald2004 29 күн бұрын
In terms of what to do about it, I'm not a sparky so not qualified to offer advice, but if I was, I would quote a normal hourly/day price but during fixing it, get them involved and show them how things should be done. Obviously if they have gone to great lengths to get the install up and running, and so far there's no flames or signs of burning, they've obviously got an interest in electrics and this won't be the last thing that they work on for sure. I would explain as you go about the changes you need to make and why it's important, so that if they ever attempt electrical work in the future they can be at least a little safer next time
@redshift3
@redshift3 Ай бұрын
5:30 No problem. The first aid kit is on the adjacent wall to patch you up if anything goes wrong
@michaelnoble5056
@michaelnoble5056 Ай бұрын
Be nice to see you fixing this - hopefully they go with your quote
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
Maybe one day we will
@davidevans4609
@davidevans4609 Ай бұрын
You're welcome to come and see my setup. Professionally installed and two blown Quattros and five damaged batteries, legal action pending.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 26 күн бұрын
We might just have to take you up on that... send us an email so we can carry on the conversation
@Heathen.Deity.
@Heathen.Deity. Ай бұрын
Q: What isn’t right here? All of us: “can we just list what is right?”
@andrewboon847
@andrewboon847 Ай бұрын
Did anyone notice the sparking at 01:08 when he picked up the DC cables :(
@gabor.nadudvari
@gabor.nadudvari Ай бұрын
It was only a light reflection from his rings.
@VladoT
@VladoT 26 күн бұрын
Everyone is trying to DIY because installers are becoming insanely expensive nowadays. I've also seen incredibly good DIY installs.
@lukaszk1118
@lukaszk1118 14 күн бұрын
Also half of the the time installers are equally incompetent
@alanreynolds5985
@alanreynolds5985 Ай бұрын
I can’t see what the problem is. So long as the electrons get to the desired destination, who cares. You just said it’s been working for 18 months. I have seen work as bad as that by qualified electricians and superior work done by diy’ers. I won’t let any sparks near my house. I do all my own.
@FryGuyNS
@FryGuyNS 28 күн бұрын
Omg, I've done some janky stuff as temporary fixes for myself. That's a whole other level.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 28 күн бұрын
🤣
@dansummers2965
@dansummers2965 Ай бұрын
From a design perspective, that's more or less the system I plan on installing in my garage some time in the next couple of years (Victron inverter and chargers, isolators to taste, rackmount batteries although mine will be from Pylontech). However, I ... think I'll have a professional do the wiring for me. Goodness, what a mess.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
Good idea! Always get a professional to do a job!
@xxwookey
@xxwookey Ай бұрын
@@artisanelectrics Not always. Some professionals do thoroughly mediocre jobs.
@TheStealthbob
@TheStealthbob 18 күн бұрын
This is what happens when you let plumbers do electrics...
@superstrings4768
@superstrings4768 17 күн бұрын
Very nice of you to invite us into your own home. A blueprint on how to do things...
@Davecars44
@Davecars44 Ай бұрын
Bardzo dobra robota Panie Wiesławie ❤
@TeemarkConvair
@TeemarkConvair 11 күн бұрын
does not a licensed electrician in the UK have the legal ability/requirement to red flag such an installation? Here in the US a plumber has the obligation to flag and disconnect/safe gas equipment.
@henrystevens2258
@henrystevens2258 29 күн бұрын
These could be live but im going to lift them anyway 😂
@TheColinputer
@TheColinputer Ай бұрын
As someone who built a DIY backup system for my house during the covid lockdowns in 2020. This to me seems like a system that started off as a totally isolated off grid system at first. Then at some point they wanted to tie it into the whole house and thats how it ended up like this.
@graemeedgar7654
@graemeedgar7654 22 күн бұрын
The first aid kit and powder fire extinguisher on the wall says a lot.
@LindaLooUK
@LindaLooUK Ай бұрын
This is beyond stupid. It shows a callous disregard for basic safety. If he wants to fry himself that's fine but if there's anyone else living in the property, call the police and have him arrested.
@peterpeterson9903
@peterpeterson9903 Ай бұрын
Thing is, he hasn't actually broken a single law.
@halesworth01
@halesworth01 Ай бұрын
Jordan, please give the householder their dues, at 3:48 in the video, at least you had a first aid kit within easy reach on the wall should you have been electrocuted, Kudos to them for Health & Safety! I'm not a sparky, but if I'd done this wiring (not that I would) I would at least followed some of your video's to try and get it right (ish)!
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
Hahah 🤣
@cbflazaro
@cbflazaro 27 күн бұрын
Looks like the standard of the mcs installer that installed mine. I had to constantly make them mend the errors they done.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 27 күн бұрын
😬
@GregMurch
@GregMurch Ай бұрын
Seeing that tidy would be so therapeutic
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
We might try one day but can not guarantee this...
@hugoschoemaker
@hugoschoemaker Ай бұрын
The single AC conductor through metal plate of victron can cause a fire, the magnetic field of the ac will go into the steel. They have protected it a bit with the flex pipe, but i would mark it as a first potential location of fire.
@matjazwalland903
@matjazwalland903 Ай бұрын
Imagine that the reason for such an installation was that he couldn't find any electrician to do the wiring properly, because the project was too small and not interesting for them! And after a couple of months of searching, he was forced to roll up his sleeves and do something himself. So would you say that the owner is to blame or the electricians who didn't accept the work?
@danthompson9801
@danthompson9801 18 күн бұрын
My issue with seeing things like this would be my inability to sleep at night after walking away before fixing it.
@krissybufton
@krissybufton 16 күн бұрын
The first bit non compliant with my ears is Jordan back on the videos again
@mikeycross4717
@mikeycross4717 Ай бұрын
loving the cctv camera poiting at the spaghetti wireing just so they can get POV of the start of a fire
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
😂😂
@Cardetailingburnley
@Cardetailingburnley Ай бұрын
If I was to get that price I would quadruple the price if not 10 times the price because it is an immediate danger. However we are all humans and we all need power at the end of the day.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
😂
@cmcb7931
@cmcb7931 Ай бұрын
To be fair the breaker on the negative is what is in the documentation for the victron energy meter. It looks to all be connected in the correct order. Just not nearly or using the correct cables
@propershroper
@propershroper 29 күн бұрын
Did I see an arc at around 1:09 when you picked up the cables?
@imik3y
@imik3y 27 күн бұрын
I can’t tell an installer started this job and left it half way through. End customer didn’t want to pay/couldn’t find a replacement installer and decided to get it working himself.
@j94web
@j94web 10 күн бұрын
Did it actually spark at 1:08 when you picked the DC cables up?! Hopefully im seeing things...
@TheRonskiman
@TheRonskiman Ай бұрын
That measuring device is an ET112 energy meter. The 1A MCB is just the neutral for the energy meter. They don't need the ET112, although the Quattro does have a 5% inaccuracy, mine always reads 5% over on import and export compared to my smart meter. I do have an ET112 but it measures the generation of my AC attached SolarEdge inverter. PS I used an electrician to do the AC work, and he was very impressed with my DC work, although he could have been humouring me.
@AndrewLumsden
@AndrewLumsden Ай бұрын
What are they paying for house insurance?
@gadgetman36
@gadgetman36 Ай бұрын
If they have an electrical fire the house insυrance will be void.
@AndrewLumsden
@AndrewLumsden Ай бұрын
​@@gadgetman36Do you think I don't know that? 🤨
@Cardetailingburnley
@Cardetailingburnley Ай бұрын
@@AndrewLumsden here here
@tsbrownie
@tsbrownie 25 күн бұрын
D) All the stuff you said after "A, B, C".
@FormallyknownasE100
@FormallyknownasE100 Ай бұрын
@artisanelectrics I really love these videos and been watching a number over the past few months to the point where I am now contemplating getting a solar and battery install. Unfortunately I live a bit too far from your base for you to be the go to choice! I just wondered if you (or others in the comments) could recommend any installers in the North East (Newcastle upon Tyne) area at all?
@patrickdixon4945
@patrickdixon4945 Ай бұрын
If the cables are already on the floor, they don't need supporting - right?
@roybm3124
@roybm3124 27 күн бұрын
Is Homer Simpson living there 😂
@TheMainMan123
@TheMainMan123 Ай бұрын
DIY equals one thing in a lot of cases…. Destroy It Yourself (DIY) 😂😂
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
Love it haha
@tujuprojects
@tujuprojects Ай бұрын
I have the exact same devices, quattro is gen2 and don’t even have dc string switches nor mppt is not at wall 😊
@tujuprojects
@tujuprojects Ай бұрын
I think you’re making it circus for no reason. Anyone who put that together knew what he was doing. The same person could tidy it up if needed, i just wonder why he called you.
@Ollerecovery
@Ollerecovery 17 күн бұрын
I was thinking it was not done by an electrician, then i stated thinking about my garage, in there there are an connection made by i don't know who but it looks DIY for sure. And on top of that it is the suply to the building. Must have been done to get the power going while building and then forgotten. Might be that i would want to get an electrician to redo that in a proper, it should be in some box, not in 50 layers of thin plastic film. There are an electrician that has signed off on the whole building at one time but i bet he never found that thing or he would have dealt with it.
@djneo92nl
@djneo92nl Ай бұрын
Makes me feel a lot better about my own install. atleast it's all installed inside where it should :)
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
🤔
@djneo92nl
@djneo92nl Ай бұрын
@@artisanelectrics I did train to be an electrician and worked a few years as a apprentice (not sure about the correct english term) as a weekend and summers job. and the install was checked by a professional before it was commissioned But i love these diy horror video's
@TRS-Tech
@TRS-Tech 29 күн бұрын
Fitting ultra high end kit like that with that wiring is a crime !!!!
@henrystevens2258
@henrystevens2258 29 күн бұрын
Yeah the cardboard box is acceptable 😅
@bonnienotter646
@bonnienotter646 Ай бұрын
Wow, that is insane. That's unbelievable. How can one afford to buy the victron system and can't afford to hire a professional to do the installation?
@tujuprojects
@tujuprojects Ай бұрын
Btw, you can’t join quattros input and output neutrals, they are galvanically isolated.
@MrMWRMWR
@MrMWRMWR 9 күн бұрын
Was the fire extinguisher the first thing installed 🤔?
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 17 күн бұрын
At least there is a fire extinguisher, which might still be usable, to protect the whole lot.
@joshuabest100
@joshuabest100 Ай бұрын
That's a common case of temporarily permanent
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