The ORIGINAL Alice In Wonderland vs. The NEWEST

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@curtthegamer934 5 ай бұрын

Another thing regarding the illustrations is that they are placed chronologically at the points in the text that they occur. For instance, the Queen screaming at Alice appears directly above the text in the book where she says "Off with her head!" Unfortunately, most contemporary publishers aren't observant of this aspect at all, and end up placing the illustrations wherever they want (and by that, I mean in the correct chapters, but not necessarily aligned with the text they're intended to go with).

@frogscotch19 5 ай бұрын

spot on

@martinheath5947 3 ай бұрын

(Aside from this latest edition being an artistic abomination)

@ragnarlodbrok9186 5 ай бұрын

Carroll had originally intended to illustrate the published version himself but was dissuaded from doing so by several people, most notably John Ruskin. Hiring Tenniel was a good business decision, too, because, as the illustrator for Punch, he was far more famous than Carroll was in 1865 and much of the book's early success can probably be attributed to him.

@Al1987ac 5 ай бұрын

So the version with Caroll's illustrations is unofficial? Or he decided to publish it after initial success with Tenniel?

@ragnarlodbrok9186 5 ай бұрын

@@Al1987ac 'Alice's Adventures Under Ground' only existed in a single manuscript copy until 1886, at which point Carroll (or at least Macmillan) decided to publish it in facsimile.

@kittymervine6115 5 ай бұрын

I held the Alice owned by the real Alice. A wonderful book collector in the US, said it is among his favorite in his vast collection. He also has a SHakespeare first folio, and let us touch it turn pages and be in awe. He understands what books mean, to book lovers. My visit to his private library still is one of the top experiences of my life. It was like meeting famous people, only BETTER. He was so generous to his visitors, the library is protecting and caring for some of the world's most precious objects, and during a birthday party, which was for a wonderful man, the "entertainment" after was a visit to his library. He served WINE including red. I noticed no one carried red wine around! But, know, there is a wonderful fabulous human being, who is preserving and has gathered one of the best (if not the best) private collection in the world. Who shared his riches with a simple teacher, myself, who loves books.

@curtthegamer934 5 ай бұрын

My city's library actually used to have a facsimile of the original handwritten manuscript. I recently bought the same facsimile because I loved it so much.

@MSK-jd5fi 5 ай бұрын

I’m getting a serious late 1960s Sgt. Pepper feeling from the new Alice edition. Kind of appropriate as Alice is rather psychedelic

@ElicBehexan 5 ай бұрын

I had a friend who worked for the Harry Ransom Center from the late 1970s until her retirement about 20 years later. While she was there they bought a collection of Alice In Wonderland related books and ephemera. Some of those items were really weird and from what she described, it is weird to think there might be other copies of these items.

@adamshinbrot 5 ай бұрын

Grace Slick was there first And if you go chasing rabbits And you know you're going to fall Tell 'em a hookah-smoking caterpillar Has given you the call Call Alice When she was just small

@sharonkaczorowski8690 5 ай бұрын

I read and reread Alice as a kid and have read it since as an adult, which is a much different read. I had a reproduction of the early book with the beautiful illustrations in the right place. To have seen the original pass at the book must have been amazing, though I can’t imagine it without the Cheshire Cat whose illustration scared me as a child, or the Mad Hatter, whose weirdness fascinated me. I’ve seen exerts from the recent stage version and wish I could see the while production. The new book is lovely, but I’m sticking to by much beloved old Alice.

@susprime7018 5 ай бұрын

My copy of Alice is from 1971, but it has the Tenniel illustrations, "go ask Alice."

@woofbarkyap 5 ай бұрын

Bought a copy as a 21st birthday gift - arrived at high speed and the quality is stunning - thanks for the timely promo!

@879korn 5 ай бұрын

Was ready to not like the new edition based on looks. You are a terrific salesman. That edition is incredible and beautiful. Might have to buy a copy. Have been greatly enjoying your channel. thanks for great work.

@s9300097 5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@tomwayling 5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@Kjt853 3 ай бұрын

The Argentinian writer Jorge Luis Borges once pointed out that the Alice adventures, which end up having been dreams, are more precisely nightmares. He might have had a point: virtually every episode produces anxiety, and she wakes up screaming - or at least crying out in fear.

@lastof6646 5 ай бұрын

Love your videos, a real treat to watch. You’ve not only got me back into reading classic literature but I to starting my own collections. Many thanks

@daphnefinney 5 ай бұрын

Such a wonderful piece of classic literature. I have read it time and time again and it will never get old! Thanks for the history lesson Tom!

@LearningandTechnology 5 ай бұрын

This was fascinating and extremely well presented. There is a special history to this book and its relationship with illustration that is worth exploration.

@CorvusCorvidae777 5 ай бұрын

The Jhambo Ink edition is beautiful but a bit too expensive for me unfortunately (even with the 10% off 😉) For a more affordable, and also wonderful, edition I recommend The Complete Alice (2015, Macmillan). It has the original illustrations by Tenniel

@kgsuniquerareandantiquebooks 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your insight into Alice in Wonderland!!

@olivia7316 5 ай бұрын

I own this new edition and it’s a joy to own! 🎉 especially the playing cards- such a clever idea! ❤

@tomwayling 5 ай бұрын

It really is!

@SirShiv7 5 ай бұрын

I love it when a story has a good story!

@fly_you_fools 5 ай бұрын

Jeebus that is hideous.

@ekurisona663 5 ай бұрын

Thank you, Tom 🐇

@radioactivebanana6774 5 ай бұрын

I love your channel! Show us more old books!

@Manthathasspiderlikepowers 5 ай бұрын

Love that I found this channel

@ronaldholmes4250 5 ай бұрын

What a great way to start my day. Well done 😂

@hogshead9012 5 ай бұрын

Do any of the original 2000 copies survive?

@barrymoore4470 5 ай бұрын

Yes, some research libraries and archives conserve some copies of that original 1865 run, and some serious collectors doubtlessly hold some copies as well.

@robertgerrity878 5 ай бұрын

Tenniel caused the 2K 1st pulled over pic quality. 4k copies at Xmas 1865 Tom says halway through vid. So as a former bookseller I'd say 2750 likely at most because it was ALICE from the beginning. A keeper.

@AmericanaGardens 5 ай бұрын

Love these history videos!

@sphinxtheeminx 5 ай бұрын

I feel obliged to say Mr Tenniel captured my likeness with forensic verisimilitude.

@rogerflack415 5 ай бұрын

You could sell sand in the desert. I looked at the Jhambo Ink edition and had this moment of dissonance; being mesmerised by your description while at the same time taking a strong and instant dislike to both the illustrations and the layout of the book. Curious and curiouser...

@lobstermash 5 ай бұрын

It sounds as if the edition is aimed at collectors as an investment piece. I find it quite unattractive to look at.

@22Purplemist 5 ай бұрын

@@lobstermash - I'm not a collector but I would love this on my bookshelf/to read and enjoy precisely because it is a lovely-looking edition of the book

@lobstermash 5 ай бұрын

@@22Purplemist Good for you - I don't like the colour scheme 😭. 😀

@22Purplemist 5 ай бұрын

@@lobstermash - I was countering your comment that it's "intended for a collector's piece investment".

@frogscotch19 5 ай бұрын

the new book is nicely put together but unfortunately i don't like the artists depictions of the characters.

@curtthegamer934 5 ай бұрын

@@frogscotch19 The only Alice illustrations I really like besides Tenniel's are Lewis Carroll's from his handwritten manuscript, Arthur Rackham's, and Helen Oxenbury's. Any other illustrations just don't suit the story (to be honest, Oxenbury's don't fit that well either, but they're just so charming).

@leoniepipe6910 4 ай бұрын

I don't either. But I've seen lots of ugly depictions of "Alice in Wonderland", mostly in more recent versions.

@resellexcel 5 ай бұрын

TOM10 discount is not available on that book

@lucianesaid171 5 ай бұрын

Hi! It is now. Sorry about that.

@TheFiown 5 ай бұрын

A question = is it possible for someone to come out with a new version of Alice and be able legally to publish it ?

@barrymoore4470 5 ай бұрын

Yes, I believe the text is now in the public domain, so new editions and versions should be able to be legally produced.

@cherryspriteyt Ай бұрын

sad to see you got outbid on the original ones, I just saw that video and now I'm here seeing your passion for the books and story

@MadelynKontis 5 ай бұрын

Does the published side include both Alice books (Through the Looking Glass), or just the first? I think this world be an interesting way of publishing the pair as well.

@meursault7030 5 ай бұрын

I'd expected the other book in the binding to be Through The Looking Glass. A bit disappointed it isn't.

@ekurisona663 5 ай бұрын

Did any of the original 2000 botched copies survive?

@tomwayling 5 ай бұрын

Yes, but only a handful. The rest were sent to America to be bound up by the US publisher

@glockenrein 5 ай бұрын

If you’re going to talk about the history of the book I would probably mention that the author had a thing for photographing little girls naked and had his access to the girls he was telling the story to very firmly removed.