The Original Annoying Pokemon Deck

[@Derek_Nino]

8:39 I believe your referring to Pokemon Breeder, not Trader.

[@Spyke-10100]

Both were viable but yes Breeder was the better card

[@Ptcgradio]

I was! Trader was used but not as rare candy. Pinning so people know :)

[@DeckKnight]

In the TCG videogame I always ran this with Dodrio which had Rage and Retreat Aid, so you could use Damage Swap to vary damage and keep Dodrio out of KO Range. Still too slow for anything other than that game but Doduo's fighting resistance and free retreat came in handy. Also after one Retreat Aid Chansey had zero retreat so that was fun. Also I often preferred Kangaskhan to Chansey for draw power and even Lickitung occasionally because it to had a 10 damage flip for paralysis attack and walled opposing Mr. Mime. You could even flip for Supersonic and then Mime was really in trouble.

[@alexpotts6520]

The psychic-type gym leader in the TCG video game had pretty much this deck. Good God, was it annoying.

[@Daninput]

I was about to say the same thing too! But he was more annoying than difficult I’d say but the most satisfying to whoop. Next to the Science and Water Gym leader decks.

[@AdamKyles]

@@Daninput I just use this deck against him. If he ran out of cards to draw from his hand before I did, then I won. If I drew a card first, I could always use an item to put it back.

[@Yugifan92]

Great explanation, but the deck list at the end made me wonder who made it. Yes, people tried to add Gengar, but as a Stall Deck, it spread the deck thin in terms of what it was trying to do. Here's a list minus Gengar. x4 Abra x3 Kadabra x3 Alakazam x4 Chansey x3 Mr. Mime x4 Gust of Wind x4 Pokemon Trader x3 Mr. Fuji x3 Scoop Up x3 Pokemon Center x3 Gambler x3 Computer Search x20 Psychic Energy This version focused on the stall. I would commonly go 2-3 prizes deep just to get the Mr. Mime, Chansey, and Alakazam combo online, but once that was active, the player would proceed to stall out until the decks looked thin, which is where Gambler comes in, refilling your deck with all the cards from your hand and whether you drew 1 or 8, both numbers were still less than what you put in. Gust of Wind as crucial to stopping the Muk, as pulling it up to get one shot by Kadabra was a common, maybe only, damage focused play in the deck. The x20 Psychic Energy was necessary to ensure Kadabra could attack into a Muk, as playing through multiple Super/Energy Removal was common at the time. Some did question my lack of Professor Oak, but I reminded them that this was a stall deck, and drawing my deck short was going against the idea, namely because there would be less cards in the hand to shuffle back into the deck with Gambler.

[@ktvx.94]

So basically: Energy Removal is a buffed Crushing Hammer Hitmonchan is Buzzwole GX Abra is Froakie Proffesor Oak is a buffed Sycamore Computer Search is Computer Search Muk is Garbodor (or, well, you know, (alolan) Muk) without conditions (other than no sleep and stuff) Mr. Fuji is Acerola Scoop Up is a better Super Scoop Up (ironically)

[@metalmamemon]

Absolutely love this new series! I'm hoping for a video on the classic wiggly-muk. In my opinion the best gen 1 deck. In addition to completely breaking decks like this one or rain dance broke once you got muk out, no-removal gym + scyther helped keep haymaker in check.

[@LtheOriginal]

People who say "Big Boy Charizard" was their favourite card, never actually played the game, or even learnt the rules.

[@md0717]

As an old-head in terms of the tcg, i appreciate the love you're showing for decks from my era. I try to keep up with the new tcg, which is fun, but the old days were like the wild west. i miss my old sponge deck (3scyther, 3 electabuzz, 3 promo mewtwo, and 3khangaskhan) watching haymaker players cry

[@LegitMLG360noscoper]

I love a good troll deck

[@Spyke-10100]

I used to run a very similar deck when playing at school. A couple of Pokémon Center and 4 recycle cards though instead of the second Gengar and Alakazam lines.

[@SeeZurKicks]

I love your videos. Inspired me to get back to ptcg. Thank you

[@loganhollingsworth1675]

Awesome video, love these it's always fun to explore new strategies.

[@Mayberrymojo]

I had this deck. It was soooo fun to play. Back then opponents didn't know what to do to get around it. Still one of my favorite decks. I have tweaked it a little, but still have it intact and play it every now and then with my kids and some of my other old decks.

[@morklee31]

how does it do against Lickistall?

[@RJV-s3l]

Back then I had a friend who would use a deck with the Alakazam strategy, Chansey in the bench, and Raichu from the fossil expansion that does 10 damage to 3 of your opponent benched Pokémon. It was crazy. But Gosh the game was so good back then and the effects were so amazing... I loved it. Now... not really.

[@superrosegoldsaiyan1008]

I MISSED POKEMON CENTER AND SCOOP UP!!!!

[@TrueNomadSkies]

I didn't even have a Gengar, but I played a Haunter/Alakazam focused deck anyway for a while because it just made sense. Super annoying, and had a good matchup like you said against Hitmonchan. Pretty sure I ran the base set Koffing too because you were guaranteed to get either poison or confusion out of the coin flip, and I don't recall there being much else (even including the modern cardpool) that does that.

[@SubPhoenix]

this was the first deck i ever built. i only had 2 of each of the main cards and my deck was inconstant, but it was so much fun. it is cool to see a real decklist of what this deck should have looked like. mine had pidgeot in place of gengar, and pokemon breeder in place of mr fuji. i have good memories of stalling with mr mime and useing pokemon center to fully heal both of my chanseys that were almost full of damage and powering up my pidgeot to whirlwind my opponents stage 2 pokemon.

[@jamesoconnor8924]

Do some battles with only base set EDIT:you could use proxies

[@Andrew-ww1hz]

He kind of has, in the Twitch stream of the Gameboy PTCG. Hope he continues it.

[@horokai]

Is this deck still usefull in the Neo-Base format ?? fun as hell

[@rsoles27]

Need to cover rocket zapdos deck next

[@Mayberrymojo]

I still have that deck too. Love it!

[@Jetfalcon4]

Keep them coming loving this

[@Suicidal_Soy_Sauce]

Haha I had this deck with grass type mixed in back in the day. I tweaked it so much it's funny that I can still remember it 20 years later. I Alakazam/Gengar work well with grass types for some reason. Scyther/Pincer, I tried Venusaur and Vileplume, it was just so much fun. Nostalgia flooding my brain!

[@sagethegreat4680]

My favorite annoying was only legal for a short time. It was Giovanni's machamp with focus band. Dark tyranitar making your opponent deck out was a close second.

[@xeaglex47]

Haha yeah used to play it on the game boy game 70 win streak on duel machine plus they had psychock mewtwo with energy absorb promo yeah gengar was really good too or stalling with gastly and hauntzers

[@grumpynurse7529]

Pokémon breeder, not trader.

[@Ninjax2000]

No mention of Tentacool? My Mr. Mime wall deck had tentacools which allowed Alakazam move damage from Mr. Mime to a Tentacool, which would then retreat to my hand taking the damage away. I could then immediately replay Tentacool and repeat the process again. Given that Mr. Mime could only take 20 damage and Tentacool can take 20 damage, it was an endless loop that required no energy, and I could easily deck out my opponent. The only real threat is Muk and a gust of wind.

[@tanzolo4487]

I have both this (with promo mewtwo’s) and do the wave at home. My favourites. Probably getting raindance at one point to round out the collection

[@WMachismo]

I always love using 4x Pidgeot 4x Chancy and 4x gust of wind 4x energy removal strategy. Yeah I was dickhead kid back in the 90s - early 2000s

[@makotoxchihiroyaoifangirl8409]

Yes it is by far the most annoying of the early decks, Haymaker, Raindancer and Damage Swap. After playing with all three of those decks with lists straight out of the wiki that you got the list for the damage swap deck in the game boy colour game against the grand masters, this damage swap deck was by far the most annoying one to play with.

[@Mitjitsu]

I did playtest damage swap decks years ago, but they're just too slow and lack the damage output. I'd rather play a deck revolving around Wigglytuff, but a three energy attack that's weak to Hitmonchan hurts that deck too. My favourite rogue deck back then was the original milling deck in the form of Quad Moltres. Use Scoop Up and Super Potion to keep it alive and can even use Imposter Oak to force your opponent to draw more cards, but it loses to Raindance due to the ability of Blastoise to one shot it with 5 energy and a Plus Power.

[@gchrome4577]

"Today we're celebrating." *Is 9/11*

[@jameslucrative2054]

Some mad lad made self destruct deck to counter stall decks

[@naturalharmoniagropius4486]

Nah. I've faced this deck for years. But Do the Wave Wigglytuff was broken and made me annoyed

[@denniswijker7162]

I played like... half versions of this deck ? First year I played in the Dutch Nationals, I played a homebrew (I was a young kid, I didn't even know about anything meta related) Mr Mime and Dark Alakazam deck, Dark Alakazam let's you do damage and then switch out to another Pokemon. Put Mr Mime upfront to block incoming damage. I lost all games :P The year after I played a stall deck with Alakazam and Chansey (it also had a Zapdos I remember) and I actually did pretty okay in the first round, managed to get to second round. But since my main wincon was decking the opponent, and the organizers ran into some serious time issues, they cut the time per game down, and I just didn't have enough time left in a match to deck people :(

[@adamkarlb6329]

How did weaknes work back then, they dont have any texture on the card about it?

[@Derek_Nino]

Works the same as it does in today's game.

[@jameslucrative2054]

Generic x2 none of them had specific weakness like +X same with resistance all -30

[@ptcg-teamdark6182]

my Favourite Deck is "Sponge" with the Mewtwo Promo

[@kfd784]

I used to like taking on this deck with my dragonair deck. Being able to remove an energy every turn with hyper beam and having energy removals

[@povijestpovijest9569]

I had a similar deck. Destroying charizards with hunters felt so good.

[@adamwilson1691]

Pairing lickitung with alakazam is the way to go. Big licky is a sponge with a good attacking option.

[@punishedcrow]

Decklist where?

[@windwaker0rules]

4:58 hey look a card that will never come back

[@teknoFellow]

windwaker0rules und

[@nadavsc7462]

wossy you got mixed up a bit with pokemon trader, pokemon trader is basically pokemon communication what you were thinking about is pokemon breeder wich is basically rare candy

[@bizarro2277]

Nice build i just finished my rhydon magmar deck

[@emojo1990]

that haunter is like noivern and malamar in one card!

[@Cesclarenas]

I remember this deck. It was REALLY annoying

[@jakegearhart]

I love these videos!

[@jasonslocum8385]

20 psychic energy seems a bit high ._.

[@Ohboyohboyohboy]

I believe pokemon trader was more like p-comm, poke breeder was the rare candy back in the day

[@xlordday7241]

Okay, why was Pokemon center never mentioned this video? It could heal over 400 damage with a single card in the deck. If you got the complete setup, with Pokemon center and scoop up (I'm pretty sure I've never played against a Mr fuji. It was just never needed) you could deck your opponent out reliably.

[@AussieRiolu447]

Ah yes. The time when Kadabra was actually in the TCG.

[@cutecombo8496]

Again my G NEO F E R A L I G A T R

[@Ymho]

If this deck wasn't old school only you could use an aloalan sandshrew (guardians rising)

[@patrickcuddy4065]

Classic deck profiles are the best

[@gamemodejm]

I just build a charizard and venusaur deck in video game. I was just annoyed with MR.MIME!!!!

[@volk551]

You could have swapped out chancey for the coward tenacool for free scoop up every turn

[@MazterP28]

The only deck that could actually keep up with haymaker

[@Mitjitsu]

What about Wigglytuff and Moltres?

[@MazterP28]

Mitjitsu nah. Wigglytuff died to hitmonchan and plus power and i think moltres you had to flip a coin. More of a fun deck. Or wigglytuff was in the haymaker deck.

[@Mitjitsu]

Moltres isn't used for it's flippy attack; it's used for it's milling attack. I do agree that Wigglytuff's weakness to Hitmonchan is bad, but it's playable in a Raindance meta.

[@KamisamanoOtaku]

The only deck that could truly keep up with Haymaker, during Haymaker's prime, was Haymaker. ;)

[@naturalharmoniagropius4486]

Wigglytuff makes me mad

[@jamesrock27]

I really want to see Alakazam GX!!!

[@emmasydnes2517]

I built a walord ex Alakazam deck

[@alexedes921]

This was a good deck. I feel like Gyarados was really a good choice in slowly Hitmonchan. Muk from fossil really stopped Mr.Mime in it's tracks. Also with the energy removal was SUCH a big deal back then. So what card really benefits from that?? PROMO Mewtwo helped you deter your opponent from trying to strip your energy from turn one. Which if you played Mewtwo that was ideally how you'd want it to happen. Unless you got them in discard by using a computer search. Hitmonchan was also a great partner for the Promo Mewtwo. Now this should be where Otaku corrects me with his grand wisdom lol. And by that I mean his knowledge is superior to mine. Only paying a complement.

[@MostlyNotDps]

I hate this video. Not because it's bad (it's not) or because it's clickbait (it's, also, not), but because it reminded me of Mr. Mime. Mr. Mime, I think, is one of those cards that will go on your list of "cards so good, they will probably never be reprinted" because of that ability. Yes, there are pokemon that are protected from GX, or from pokemon with 2 or less energy, or even-number/odd-number damage, or colorless, or any other things. But Mr. Mime would, literally, be protected from anything. Now adays, I don't think Pokemon would ever print an ability that gives such a wide-swath of immunity.

[@KamisamanoOtaku]

Though it was very frustrating when it was first released, a lot of that was due to card scarcity and the lack of the modern TCG community. There *were* effective counters to Mr. Mime (Jungle) and its Invisible Wall, they just weren't obvious, like Jigglypuff (Jungle). Seriously, I learned about that one about... five years ago? XP Six months after Mr. Mime first released, though, we had multiple counters to it. Muk (Fossil) to shut of any and all Pokémon Powers other than its own, Goop Gas Attack to shut down all Pokémon Powers long enough to easily OHKO a Mr. Mime. Even Drowzee from Team Rocket, who could use its "Long Distance Hypnosis" to put Mr. Mime to Sleep... which turned off Invisible Wall.

[@MostlyNotDps]

@@KamisamanoOtaku astute observation. But I mean this is the kind of ability that would probably never see play again. I think it's similar now adays to an 80hp pokemon being immune to any attack of 60 or more. The ability "catches" too many things. Though I guess it's in the same vein as magical evens/odds.

[@jeromeweaver7680]

45th

[@chongtenpongener3724]

I like your videos but it's so unnecessarily long. You include all sorts of crap that's just common sense

[@AlxanderBrd]

Im watching this at exactly noon and im triggered🤣 jk