The Original Ending of Transformers 2 That You Never Knew Existed

In this video we will be talking about Transformers Revenge of The Fallen, specifically the original ending what we were supposed to get for the film.
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[@madcapmakov2]

Yeah you can tell Michael Bay was very dissatisfied about the film’s climax. His climax in DotM was his apology to RotF.

[@HugoYogurt]

but I'd much prefer the original ending for dotm ngl

[@_.incredible_magnum._291]

​@@HugoYogurttoo bad it got leaked

[@HugoYogurt]

@@_.incredible_magnum._291 ikr

[@MrWaSpY-Trn]

@@HugoYogurt It Was Actually Amazon. (I Found That From Another Comment).

[@SOUND_WAVE..]

@@_.incredible_magnum._291 If I saw a one arm Prime, I would leave to area I am not messing with the face ripper himself.

[@memeextreme1356]

This ending is great, I wish we would’ve gotten it. However, it’s missing one thing: “Give me your face!”

[@joshbooher]

Factssss! A great line

[@Deinobi]

And "I rise, you fall"

[@Comicbroe405]

@@Deinobi I really like this line. It's a play on his name while also being a simple statement. The other simply feels uncharacteristic despite going hard.

[@King-lb4pi]

At least

[@genesismultiverse4896]

No I think it's better without since their robots they don't need shampoo for commercials

[@joec7217]

We were robbed. This ending is MILES better than the one we got. Actually had a stake and more Ironhide and Sideswipe! Damn you strike!

[@FEdelasJONSEnjoyer]

"Actually had a stake" So did the OG one?

[@joec7217]

@@FEdelasJONSEnjoyer Not that big. The beam was destroyed pretty early on. The stakes would've been even higher if the machine wasn't destroyed that quick

[@The_Christian_Kirbo]

@@joec7217 I mean, if you actually check how much time passed between the Sun Harvester being activated and it's destruction, those were literally last seconds.

[@tristenbailey8442]

Me knowing that the strike didn't majorly contribute to the RotF story sucking like it does: 😐

[@joec7217]

@@tristenbailey8442 The ending still would've been better

[@ZelinkofHyrule]

I think in ROTF, Jetfire had a lot of wasted potential, maybe with the new Bumblebee continuity we can see more autobots that were in gen 1 instead of the same cast over and over again.

[@christianparrish3292]

I would love to see Jetfire

[@prebo1344]

Bro did you even watch Rotb?

[@christianparrish3292]

@@prebo1344 I wish

[@Chase9.0]

Nah cause he’s to similar to stratosphere

[@cp368productions2]

​@@Chase9.0Jetfire was never the size of Stratosphere in any other iteration of him. Jetfire was always a normal fighter like Starscream.

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

Its crazy how the novels based on ROTF and DOTM had better endings than the actual movies themselves. Not only are they more character accurate, but they do a better job giving fans a more satisfying conclusion rather than being rushed and confusing.

[@felixdeplanques3614]

Agreed !

[@HelenaSan425]

Hey Eva new drawing!

[@HelenaSan425]

Don't u dare you ignore me! It's my birthday Aug 23 🎉

[@jjlouie6418]

​@@HelenaSan425I know this is way late but Happy Birthday

[@jjlouie6418]

Well not only that but I would let the fence know what happened to our heroes and when the plot

[@awesomeproductions7755]

Definitely *_FAR_* better than the ending we actually got! If I were doing it, it’d probably go quite like this, but with some small changes - like no enemy scrotum, Jolt still being the one to power up Optimus after being given a bigger role and Devastator still fighting after losing his arm to the rail gun, only to get taken down by Optimus like the Driller. The fight then proceeds like normal, but with Optimus and the Fallen engaging in the air Dragon Ball Z style for a bit, Megatron learning that the Fallen’s promise to make him a Prime was false before losing half his face and his arm, the Fallen’s death staying like in the actual movie and Megatron looking empty at the Fallen’s death rather than horrified before leaving with Starscream. Optimus then removes Jetfire’s parts and finds the Matrix amongst the wreckage of the Harvester, placing it in his chest. From there, the film ends like normal until we get a mid-credits scene of Megatron and Starscream planning ahead with “Operation: Pillar” while the former sits on the Fallen’s throne - now his - and gathers what remains of his army, including Soundwave, Barricade and the awakening protoform army.

[@newalbacore8352]

but the enemy scrotum is a classic

[@mariebenjaminepanganiban2568]

But enemy scrotum is the best thing about the movie

[@roberttreacy8271]

Nice.

[@hthrun]

And when Devastator continues fighting Optimus, his lost arm also transforms and fights in robot mode...

[@Archon3960]

I must remind you all the Jolt was useless.. x)

[@joec7217]

The forest fight is still one of the best fights ever

[@jvbutalid8316]

"I knew there was greatness within you, Sam" just doesn't vibe as much as "Boi, you returned for me." Aside from that the latter just sounds so memeworthy, it also indicates that at the very least, Sam's got Optimus covered when things get tough.

[@noah._.powell]

Totally agree

[@arielcabatingan6044]

I feel like the ROTF ending of the novel would be better because showing some scenes that never appeared in the movie would let us know what happened to our heroes, and what really happened to the soldiers that survived their helicopter crash, but I guess the film ending is ok, it just needed to show the scenes that appeared in the novel and not in the movie.

[@ricardosmuts]

the Forest battle is the best battel in the movie and I like it when Optimus demand the fallen to give him his face

[@christianparrish3292]

Why did you put an L in battle?

[@ShockMasterDA]

Optimus prime was a beast in the forest fight

[@Karl_Rizal]

The real rise of the beasts

[@ricardosmuts]

Optimus was a beast like rise of the beast

[@MR_stone69]

​@@ricardosmuts😂😂😂

[@kingdareth09]

When the doom music kicks in

[@al-vitos7425]

🤓

[@ryanbeach4372]

I personally believe that the fallen is the strongest of all of the BAYFORMER villains. He’s stronger than Lockdown, Sentinel Prime, and even strong than Shatter and maybe even Scourge for that matter. I mean the dude literally has the powers of the force and can only be killed by a Prime. No one else can stop him. It just turns out that the prime who did take him out had a crap ton of training during the time in between 07 and rotf.

[@Eradicator_MK666]

Yeah and the only one who can stop the fallen is probably quintessa(very debateble because quintessa kinda survive from damages)

[@doodleboy565]

Scourge and Shatter aren’t part of Bayformers. They come from the Transformers reboots (which is what Rise of the Beasts is and was intended to be).

[@TFIta369]

"even strong than Shatter". Of course, every villain is stronger, hehe.

[@mortalvehicle6138]

Isn’t Sentinel not a Prime? I mean like bro would have probably killed Optimus if Megatron didn’t come and save Optimus, and then isn’t DOTM prime not more experienced than ROTF prime? Oh wait, I just wasted my time because I forgot prime got Jetfire’s parts which gave him a big power boost…

[@xavier4519]

​@@mortalvehicle6138 i do think the fallen was stronger than sentinel, both are primes but the fallen is literally the first decepticon ever and the only way the other primes could stop him was to hide and bury themselves with the thing, honestly the movie depiction doesn't give enough credit to how god damn strong this mf should have been

[@nova_zar]

That moment when you realize that in the junior novel and storybooks Optimus is able to intercept, block and reflect a light speed attack capable of destroying stars and also teleport 💀 bro literally gets Dragon Ball zenkais

[@czkillz]

while I like the Michael Bay transformers movies I think the biggest problem with the film's is a lack of narrative cohesion plotlines objects and characters are constantly forgotten throughout the entire series for example The Matrix of leadership and the all Spark are two of the most important religious artifacts but are ignored in aoe and tlk and characters like the twins and sideswipe are completely forgotten along with most of the named Decepticons at least even if the new movies don't do well they'll still be more consistent

[@anthonyortiz45]

Jajaja las nuevas peliculas no son mas consisten XD

[@czkillz]

​@@anthonyortiz45narratively consistent Bumblebee and Rotb are in a new universe and have not contradicted each other meanwhile the Michael Bay movies contradict each other all the time for example the transformers were supposed to have been relatively new to Earth in the 2007 film but in rotf they had been on Earth since before the formation of Egypt and in tlk they've been on Earth longer than humanity there are also smaller inconsistencies like the color of energon

[@anthonyortiz45]

​@@czkillzlo que mencionaste no son incosistencias y nunca se dijo que el primer conctato con con los transfomers en la tierra fue en 2007. Y las nuevas son muy incosistente

[@czkillz]

​@@anthonyortiz45Megatron is supposed to be the first contact with the transformers in that movie and by relatively close to 2007 I mean within the last couple hundred years and since the transformers live for millions of years a few hundred years would basically be nothing and I haven't seen any way that the new movies contradict each other

[@anthonyortiz45]

​@@czkillznunca dicen que fue el primer conctacto. En las peliculas nunca se no dicen cuanto vive un transformers por lo que tu argumento no tiene sentido. Pues si la tienes, que no sea capaz de ver es cosas tuya

[@Shreckster22]

Bro's explaining the entire Bayverse for Paramount 😂

[@countsam3one434]

I’m more interested about what Ratchet missed in the alternate one. 😂 Btw your voice acting was really good! ❤

[@Theorymus]

Thanks! 😄

[@Richtofen-gy9cj]

@@Theorymus I've played the PS2 ROTF videogame, underwhelming to say the least

[@youdononeetokno]

​@@Richtofen-gy9cjI played the PSP version. Great game

[@GreysonIngall]

It probably would have been a crotch joke knowing Mr. Bay. 💀

[@jamesesterline]

18:23 Also worth noting is that Jetfire actually survives in the DS Autobots game

[@christianparrish3292]

Really?

[@ricardosmuts]

Really

[@nachonaitor5535]

​@@christianparrish3292yes

[@domlewis9259]

AT LEAST WE STILL HAD THE LEGENDARY LINE “I am directly below… enemy scrotum”

[@GreysonIngall]

Bruh

[@newalbacore8352]

I absolutely love that the enemy scrotum joke was always in the movie lmao

[@MK-sw7do]

I wish the battle against Devastator from the Transformers RotF Wii/PS2 game was in the movie, Optimus fighting Devastator in the middle of the city is awesome and the soundtrack is pretty good, but it would probably blow up the special effects team's computers.

[@marilugallegos4969]

I do enjoy how the alternate endings definitely give better closure to some of the characters, and give the title characters some more much needed screen time. The one thing I kind of like they changed was megatron’s ending. I personally love just how prime obliterates him and seeing him in his camp in dotm is one of my favorite scenes

[@webev]

kudos to foster, he managed to write a 400 page book from a 9 minute screenplay

[@christianparrish3292]

I didn't know that there was a 2009 strike.

[@themilkstore4908]

Always a good day when you upload

[@staysuperslimey2233]

6am upload as i get ready for my first day of school alresdy know it’s gonna be a good year

[@lazlonazario2499]

I guess judging by the ending Megatron had on this version , it can be assumed that he would have had a different form in the 3rd movie judging the fact that he actually ended up in a strong position

[@Ryder-a-Blaze]

Jetfire was undoubtedly the best thing ever about Revenge of the Fallen

[@GreysonIngall]

Devastator: Am I a joke to you?!

[@SgtAJ218]

Honestly, I prefer the original ending because we get a lot more robot action, and it even fixes a lot of plot holes that were in the final cut of the movie.

[@dronebotanimation]

19:01 megaBlud got replace by his own troop 😭💀

[@BryanChumbers]

How can devastater dig up the sun harvester if the fallen and Megatron was there too

[@mariebenjaminepanganiban2568]

He digs below the top of the pyramid

[@Vexcenot]

This feels like a common theme with this movie series

[@cheezytoxins8652]

I just wish we had more Devastator

[@F0XITR0N_PRIME]

Loved the video, always relaxing to listen too, but man knowing this really makes me sad for the things we never got but that’s life. Good Job 👍

[@DillonTrinhProductions]

Nice video as always Theorymus!

[@sharkzilla4010]

Imagine if they were 3 post credit scenes 2 of them are the Sam scenes that we got and the last one is the megatron one that we all wanted

[@workingmemories2213]

As much as the Bay films were a giant missed opportunity, I'm glad your channel exists to explore 'what could have been' etc. Edit: I hate how much better these special effects look than the work done for Rise of the Beasts... I know it's a different company etc., but MAN this film still looks good.

[@agent_bumblebee]

I’m kinda sad and disappointed that the original ending didn’t make it, cuz at least it wouldn’t be as sloppy and empty as the final ending.

[@OneWithNoFace]

Rotf and Dotm were both robbed of good endings. However, in each ending the Fallen is depicted as weak and a coward. And barely puts up a fight, in the movie ending the Fallen fights Optimus and even gained the upper hand (for like 5 seconds) the perfect ending for the Fallen imo would be he's too strong for Optimus, even the other autobots help him but the Fallen fights all of them and even the military off. And another railgun is fired and hits the Fallen, stunning him long enough that they get the drop on him and prime finishes him off.

[@nachonaitor5535]

Your right

[@cool12jack]

Some many ending I can't choose my favourite

[@julianvillarreal1450]

This was a very interesting video. I do agree that the Novelization ending is the better one. 😊 It’s sad that the filmmakers ran out of time causing them to change the ending. Oh, well. It is what it is. 😔 Wait. Did Optimus have a different speech in the original ending did he not have one at all?

[@ricardosmuts]

Original ending Optimus did have a different speech

[@julianvillarreal1450]

Yep.

[@julianvillarreal1450]

Oh, ok. What was it?

[@ricardosmuts]

Threw it to the stars Beyond

[@julianvillarreal1450]

Oh, ok.

[@kotm2021]

ILM definitely bit off more than they could chew. Devastator himself blew up several of their computers.

[@360degressboy]

Bruh so your telling that the fallen will have more screen time this is much better than fallen asleep in the theaters

[@antoniofinotti8877]

I like everything except the "primes are born not made" line. Itd be better if he snapped back that Megatron doesn't posses the qualities that make a prime or something

[@Yz_dempzeiデンプゼイ]

I kinda wanna see the reboot optimus to do a epic battle like forest battle and this movie is overhated only has few problems

[@marialopez-ql9ec]

I just woke up and this was the first thing to pop up on my recommendations, guess I’m starting the day off with a bang And a Boom 💥

[@saturdaymorningcartoons9963]

this could had also explain where all of those Decepticon Protoforms that hiding on the moon in transformers dark of the moon came from...

[@superpixelwarrior6893]

Man I had the ps2 game and I have a lot of nostalgia for it. I remember in the ending cutscene you just randomly hear Sam who wasn’t mentioned in the rest of the game at all

[@starseeker5231]

I played the game on the PS2 and that for me was a great experience as a kid, I also got to play the DS version of both the Autobots and Decepticons, that was nostalgic back then I had no health issues and no stress and anxiety, only pure happiness 😢

[@Scourge_Studios]

Man I haven’t commented in a while but ur videos get better and better every time man I have learned so much from ur videos like this great work!

[@Brazil10003]

Theorymus Prime, I knew about this original ending even before you made this video, and I can safely say that it's way better than the one we got. My favorite variation of the original ending is definitely the one present in the novelization. One detail you glossed over, is that the ROTF junior novel, 'The Last Prime', 'I Am Optimus Prime' storybook and the ROTF Scholastic book, are targeted for children, so the changes were deliberate to tone down the film's violence for young readers. You also glossed over the ending present in the ROTF game for java mobile devices. In it, the final boss is Megatron and you fight him as Jet Power Optimus Prime. Upon defeating Megatron, Optimus uses the power of the Matrix of Leadership to kill The Fallen and destroy the Star Harvester, and the Autobots and NEST celebrate their lastest victory. It then cuts to Megatron commenting on how his master's title fits his fate and that underestimating Optimus was The Fallen's worst mistake. Now as supreme leader of all Decepticons, Megatron promises not to make the same mistake as he makes preparations for his final endgame (AKA the events of DOTM). When you first revealed tht you would make this video, I thought you would only talk about the endings of the novelization and comic book adaptation, as you never talked about the variations of the original DOTM ending present in it's other adaptation materials on your video about the leak that caused the film's ending to be changed, which is why I planning on making a comment on tht video showing the variations of the DOTM original ending present of the other adaptation materials as an addendum. 2 films had their original ending explained, so only the 2007 film remaind to get that treatment. Good luck!

[@flipthescript1081]

seeing this gives me nostalgia of watching rotf for the first time

[@HelenaSan425]

Hey my birthday was yesterday! Aug 23 🎂🥳🎁

[@Theorymus]

Happy belated birthday 🎂

[@dynobros2383]

While I love the ending we got. I still cannot help but this ending would have been awesome to have seen instead. It’s just one of those thoughts you can’t help but wonder👍

[@jurassicsnap747]

I have been waiting for this video for a long time and it paid off

[@Kingstondabingston]

This is true the og ending was better that the one we have now

[@blueraccoon1088]

12:07 that reminds me of the ending of the rotf ps2 game plus I did a stopmotion version of that cutscene

[@cyberforcelynch9619]

This is way better more ending than the movie ending

[@aisgeming0049]

THAT MY PRIME: Optimus: let them come

[@Blastertronus]

As good as the original ending was, it just needed more Jolt and it would be perfection.

[@Fatalis_DarkDemise]

Jetfire's quote makes me laugh so hard man

[@IndianJimmy1]

Jolt should have had more screen time

[@ashockingwave]

I never actually watched the RoTF movie myself. The only way i truly experienced a full rotf experience was through the game (the port thats on PC/PS3/Xbox. Not the PS2/Wii port). So the endings there were the endings of rotf from my pov.

[@jonathandunn7853]

I wish that Devastator was used more in the film. Just imagine the Autobots going up against him!

[@everettparker1313]

This was would have been a Really Great Alternative Ending. I was Fine with Optimus Prime Battling Megatronus Prime/The Fallen and Megatron I still think that’s still one of The Coolest Fights in The Transformers Film Series. If there’s one thing I Would love to see the most is That Post Credit Scene with Megatron on The Nemesis. Hey Theorymus are planning to go over the alternate ending for Transformers 3 Dark of The Moon?

[@Theorymus]

I already have a vido on it 🫡

[@ricardosmuts]

theorymus did make a video on the alternate ending in transformers 3

[@angelozenstories7080]

Dude pls explain how did Hound Crosshairs and Drift appeared in T4 since they werent there in T Movies 1-3

[@Ian_Hawke]

I remember seeing in the special features disc about the ending about megatron commanding his new army! Man I wish it was put into the movie ☹️

[@MemeFormers]

Wow This Is Good If This Rotf Ending Was Real It Would Have Been The Best

[@SpinoTheDino603]

I kind of wished this in the film plus i never knew there was an original ending

[@daviontv1683]

Hey Theorymus one thing I noticed is when the teleport & knocking everybody over you see the bottom left corner one of the soldiers gets decapitated 😳

[@ShaneFussell]

One thing I find interesting is despite the fucking mess this movie ended up being, Sam (during his Einstein is wrong rant) says something about the “sentinel prime program”

[@Endrgamr262]

Who summoned me

[@benthecat4345]

Honestly, I prefer the Fallen's and Megatron's defeat in the movie over the book

[@strongheartsvideobox691]

I think in the PS2 version Optimus actually just dropped The Fallen into the Harvester. The Star Harvester wouldn’t explode like that if Optimus simply killed the Fallen on the other side of the portal.

[@RVickbmx]

Always appreciate the content! It ls cool to see someone still talk about those early Transformers films🔥

[@davedevlin6026]

hey theory did you remember that scene in the bumblebee when the cop is chasing bee in the tunnel and he transforms into this fat bumblebee, it seems to be some refence to the g1 bumblebee design

[@onion8761]

I would've loved to have seen like 30 more seconds of Devastator.

[@fendrej8753]

I love your videos!

[@jaredpower1019]

16:35 this was before rise of the beasts for scourge death and I wish we did have the original ending but we know why they never add the ending

[@greenweeaboo8924]

I hope we get a re-release with the real and true ending especially with the extra screen time on the robots Paramount please make it happen

[@StarwarsFannick]

Well after watching this, I now have gotten a better appreciation for this ending. I'll have to figure out how it will work, but we'll see.

[@urboimemer]

This is a good video 10/10

[@Theorymus]

Thanks!

[@AnuragDubey-x3c]

I liked the alternate ending than the ending we saw in movie. Thank you theorymus love from India 😘😘😘

[@saturnianrings3920]

I can tell you enjoyed narrating the script😂 I enjoyed it too

[@Kaijuanimations_studio]

nice thumbnail

[@Theorymus]

Thanks

[@christianparrish3292]

I have the Wii version

[@scarface406]

Honestly I like both this and the ending we got

[@darthraider7935]

That ending definitely sounded a lot better than what we got in the movie. The even better one was the Dark of the Moon ending. That book ending was insanely different than the movies one.

[@thefortemfortispandorian8333]

Ngl i actually prefer the film ending. It just feels more condensed and less messy, as i think this ending would be too long and clunky on film. Plus the 'primes are born not made' line always felt very un-optimus and just against a whole lot of previous tf media.

[@TransformersFan781]

I would love to see the Novel one

[@emilfeuerstein1193]

The Design of the fallen is one of my Favorites in the compliete Bayverse.

[@Blueonman]

Ironhide: I think you missed a spot under the - His lawyers would have to interrupt the sentence

[@madhavilanka7787]

I agree that the ending we didn't get was better as we got cooler scenes more robot screen time.

[@Chuck2076]

Nothing’s better than watching Optimus go Apeshit on Megatron and Fallen

[@Carpediem357]

If only the writers strike didn’t screw over ROTF.

[@Kingstondabingston]

Yea

[@ricardosmuts]

yea

[@mercysuraj308]

Nice vedio i Like it soo much in such fan of TRANSFORMERS

[@JoenilEDITS]

RIP bonecrusher 😭😭😭 he died a good decepticon

[@raidenjeriahdedel1198]

wait a minute its a repost

[@ThMnWthNNm]

It sometimes feels like fate itself never wanted there to be a “proper” sequel to Transformers 2007. In 2009, the Writers Guild of America Strike forced Bay and the producers to cut down on the ending of Revenge of the Fallen. In 2011, the Amazon Comic leak forced Bay and the producers to change Dark of the Moon’s ending. Building off the last point, Bay got so fed up that he forbid the making of any supplemental material for Age of Extinction and The Last Knight, which led to more questions than answers in the film series’ lore.

[@maximumoverdrive4241]

If the strike never happened, rotf could have been the best movie out of the whole franchise

[@lenaally-jq9xr]

Ironhide:ah i think you missed a spot just below.....optimus flies away Previously Ironhide was always angry and here he tried being useful for once Btw fulfill your destiny you don't need wheels or feet you need wings