The ORIGINAL Gods of Genshin Impact: the 7 Dragon Sovereigns

[@Minsleif]

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[@DEATHHEATHEN]

I don't know why but no one pays attention to the symbol of genshin currency (mora) I once saw some saw some where that it is a symbol of birth death and rebirth

[@imikokodama3054]

It’s cats, it’s anime, and it’s an rpg… so I’ll just … I … I hafta find a way to get that game without getting in trouble with my wife!!! Oh… I know!!! I’ll…um… … I’m downloading it anyway…maybe…

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[@kuunib7325]

Only if there's catbois too

[@redlox2]

our good old Dragon Sovereigns. i know he isnt the original Dragon Sovereigns but i really like that Neuvillette is the first Dragon Soverign who has regained their divine authority (by Focallor destroying her divine throne)

[@jessiellanes3004]

Neuvillette situation is like Dan heng and Dan feng or Long aeon of permanence Where they view where Long could have defined the meaning of existence to be the "timeless nature of one's greatness." THEIR decision to reincarnate In essence, they share a soul but have distinct identities.

[@The_original_one]

What do u mean not the original he is reincarnation not a different person but a different body .

[@SCARLET_454]

Negs archons so badly

[@lowkeychains]

​@@The_original_one that's what ppl use in Genshin to make neuvillette look inferior little do they know reincarnation all ways end up stronger for having memories of there past selves nd ambitions of there new selves

[@Neuvillete4.6]

@@The_original_one he is not a 1 to 1 copy. he remebers nothing before being reborn he just researched

[@ChimeraAxolotl]

“Someday, when they return, their true ordeal shall begin…”

[@jamesnieves1216]

I think the Pyro Sovereign being alive is a really plausible theory at this point. The Traveller can't resonate with any statue, meaning all majority of that elemental energy is "held" someplace else. And all the subsequent Archons are humans and are most likely just custodians of the gnosis and have no dragon authority since there's none to be had.

[@SterlingLacaden]

That’s what I’ve been saying or something along those lines anyways. And further evidence is that Mavuika as far as Archons go does not demonstrate the level of power you’d expect from someone who holds or even channels a part of the Dragon Sovereign power. I also would argue most likely that the flame holds most of the Sovereign Authority and is the real “Archon” and the Archons of Natlan simply attune to the flame and can borrow part of its power but never all as most of it needs to stand and hold back the abyss. Also the Night Kingdom being corrupted is a good sign that the Flame is the Authority as it’s a huge source of pyro that holds back the abyss specifically despite there being no leylines or night kingdom to draw the pyro energy from. It also gives more kudos to both Mav and Cap honestly since it really is their own power clashing and not too much in terms of Archon ability at that point (Archons move mountains casually and split islands in a single moment and all of Mav’s attacks were small building level at most).

[@sleepyyriri]

Yup! Plus I think during the little saurian world quests we do have some info about the pyro sovereign slumbering in the volcano 🤔 I may be remembering wrong tho

[@Frou-hsr]

Also, Xbalanque is entombed in the primal flame, but he killed the pyro sovereign. What if he couldn't actually kill him, he just sealed himself with the dragon inside the flame

[@sleepyyriri]

@@Frou-hsr ooo interesting 👀👀

[@MyloAnton2]

​@@sleepyyriridid u notice that "ours" saurian have flame mark on his head,while others not,i hope something good is cooking in world quest

[@redlox2]

2:41 also I think it’s noteworthy that simply a death of the archon isn’t enough to restore a dragon authority (kinda like the avatar in avatar the last airbender-if one dies someone will take their place eventually) The archon needs to die along with somehow destroying their divine throne. Which is incredibly difficult and Focallor was incredibly smart to have her method to destroy the hydro throne. (And Furina did her part to the T) EDIT 2:55 I know mid mentioned this like 5 seconds later I just wanted to add it in a comment as well lol😅😅

[@henrydrago]

Well, in Natlan all these strange locations related to dragons calls the Traveler as "The Chosen by the Dragons" it could be something going on

[@nexuhs.]

We can also purify the abyssal energy ≈ forbidden knowledge like the original dragon king wished to

[@amouramarie]

I think the phrasing is "Chosen OF dragons" which, interestingly, could also mean that out of all the dragons, the Traveler is the chosen one, if you like the Traveler is a dragon theory. Course, that depends on whether the Chinese version also has this ambiguous meaning.

[@aryantaskar2322]

na na according to the latest 5.2 world quest, the chosen of dragons is actually our little saurian companion

[@amouramarie]

@@aryantaskar2322 well. that makes much more sense.

[@vi.cloverfire]

"we love you minsleif!" we say in unison lol

[@heraldofoptimusprime1624]

To be accurate neuvillete is not a human with the soul of a dragon, he is a biological dragon born in the shape of a human

[@mariapazgonzalezlesme]

Okay but listen, the Four Descenders sound pretty similar to the Four Horseman of Apocalypse. And the Traveller is basically the Horseman of Death / End, so they being a beast that swallow the whole world, could imply that the Traveller will become a dragon and devour the "old world", thus restoring Tevyat to it's original or new appearance, so they are in their final Samsara.

[@Cleestooncleestoon]

What about the other descenders? I would assume that the first one is War, since they waged war against the Sovereigns and some other entities. However, the first horseman usually is Pestilence, so the theory is kind of iffy.

[@godzdead]

​@@Cleestooncleestoonit checks out. the first one is plague/conquest - primordial one conquered teyvat or you may interpret it as humans settled on earth. the second one is war, specifically civil war - the second who came. the third one - famine - it isn't very clear yet, and it's a bit of a stretch, but. what do we know about the 3rd one? the gnoses were made from their body. famine - cannibalizing/dire times?

[@herpderp5727]

​@@Cleestooncleestoon The order would be Conquest, War, Famine, and Death. Make of that what you will.

[@kotarouinugami1745]

@@Cleestooncleestoon Pestilence is certainly Forbidden Knowledge. There is no worse disease in Teyvat. Does it mean the third descender is famine? Or maybe it's the other way around, and famine is the first descender, since judging by the seasonal crown artifact stories, they had plenty of food problems in the beginning. And the war is the third descender, bringing about the Archon War.

[@YouBetIStare]

Well, we could see how lumine/aether falls onto this. If the twin we pick is the end, and the other explored the whole teyvat, they must represent a lighter but cruel perspective on the events that foreshadows our return (The twin we picked.)

[@C00lRanch]

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[@krazy167]

I WANT ALL THE SEVEN SOVEREIGNS TO BE PLAYABLE TOO❗❗

[@Iceyicez]

Lmaoooo bruh. Archons, daddies, Harbingers, mommies. It's too much. Add them and I'll take out a loan

[@krazy167]

@@Iceyicez LMAO 😭

[@KelumKey]

No, pyro dragon died for goodness sake

[@SCARLET_454]

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[@kotarouinugami1745]

@@KelumKey This is not an obstacle. It did not stop Neuvillette, and in present-day Natlan, we just go to the realm of the dead to rescue a little girl.

[@muizholed3003]

8:30 really get me ngl. I thought minsleif gonna talk about the new furnishing in teapot where we can pet the cat, but a sponsor that I not expect.😂😂

[@koopatroopa305]

The ancient lore of genshin is so good!

[@BoitataFHD]

I also come with this realization about Traveler been the Dragon King reborn. I mean, they can cleanse the abyssal power, they can CONTROL ALL the elemental power without vision (So without Celestia influence), the Abyss Order mages keep saying to the abyss twin "When YOUR kingdom returns..." making us to belive that they are talking about Khaenriah, but what if they are talking about a GREATER and OLDER Kingdom? Like, in Natlan we are presented with the idea that Dragons had a entire civilization, with ruins and everything. It is almost like Celestia try it to hide this from the world for millenia, and when someone find it, they are punished, like Orobashi. But them, why two sibilings, and why just one of them are considered a Descender? What if there is no two. What if the Heavenly Principles had split the Nibelungs soul in two entities. And thats why they believe that they are sibilings, when in fact, are just one pearson. One divided soul. Neuvillette doesnt had the memories from the previous Hydro Soverign. Aether and Lumine wouldnt either, but they remembers the Sea of Flowers in the End, a camp of flowers named INteyvat. Is pretty obvious that they are NOT aliens. They were made to believe so. Either by the Heavenly Principles, or maybe, by the laws of Teyvat fate itself. The travail trailer said that the Pyro Archon will share a secret with the traveler. And in Archon Quest, Mavuika said that she knows him, more that he can imagine. I am excited to see how this history will be unfold.

[@HeyJunii]

3:34 just saying this is definitely not the pyro dragon, but probably the dragon king nibelung. It looks very different from the actual pyro dragon we see in the other murals

[@gmanplayer1187]

Yeah it was indicated I believe. When the traveler touched the mural, the golden design, or at least what i think it is, said the sin that will destroy the world or smt like that. The only sinI can think of is the abyss brought by Nibelung.

[@s.7033]

I think Nibelung it’s a sort of an avatar of “the formidable father” or like a general of all dragons (archangel) and the actual formidable father it’s outside the eggshell ¿¿ Idk take it as a grain of salt

[@gmanplayer1187]

@@s.7033 interesting. Was mentioned in lore or is it based on mythos ?

[@kotarouinugami1745]

And we have no reasons to assume the figures in the picture are Shining Shades. They could very well be Seelie before their fall. Or they could be what became gods in modern Teyvat.

[@gmanplayer1187]

@@kotarouinugami1745 but do seelie have the ability to protect irminsul (i think i spelled it wrong). I think only the shades would do that. it would be reasonable if the shade that died was ronova (death) since xbalanque tapped their power and made the rules of natlan.

[@WhiteKoneko]

And people called me names for saying they are "Dragon Gods"(real thing in Chinese mythology btw)😔. *sips on my boba tea* But here comes Minslief stating same thing so bless you and future Dainslief pulls.❤🎉

[@deaddeer7179]

Called you names??? Over a video game, how ridiculous. People need to learn what manners are

[@WhiteKoneko]

@@deaddeer7179 Yeah it was some typical toxic behavior. Being chronically online to point of that really...yeah...not fun. 😒

[@The_original_one]

Doesn't neuvillete calls nebulong “heavenly Father"in his character story? And formidable father in his voice line.

[@kotarouinugami1745]

I looked by words "heavenly father" in genshin impact wiki, and they were nowhere to be found. Neuvillette does say "formidable father", but it is not clear that it refers to Nibelung, and not Primordial One or some other dragon.

[@The_original_one]

@@kotarouinugami1745 did u check his character story? It's a well known fact that the heavenly Father is a word that neuvillete use to describe nebulong

[@kotarouinugami1745]

@@The_original_one I specifically read all of his character story, and the only father mentioned there, was Neuvillette as father figure to Melusines.

[@The_original_one]

@@kotarouinugami1745 ok my bad but he did mantione nebulong as “ “king nebulong"

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

He calls him "heavenly father" in the original translation, EN I know changes this to "formidable father" for some reason.

[@luutio9000]

THE PRIMORDIAL ONE A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS!!

[@arxii-21]

Dawit reference⁉️⁉️

[@luutio9000]

@@arxii-21 Yes xD.

[@crammothy]

I was hoping I’d find a fellow Dawit fan here. As soon as I heard the primordial one in the video the song played in my head instinctively lol

[@name-v9o]

Nibelung is also mentioned in Neuvillette's character stories: "Was it not so, he would argue, that humans find their gaze stolen by the ripples from falling raindrops in puddles? And could it not be, he would explain, that King Nibelung had been wrong, and that the black void could only be opposed if all life were to band together as one?"

[@nexuhs.]

"oh chosen of dragons..."

[@Ren_rz]

What if the 7 sovereigns are like the former heroes/geniuses of Khaenriah (now known as the Sinners of Khaenriah) each being the strongest in their element with Nibelunge being the King over then similar to Irmin. Also Ronova isn't dead because they're are the one who made a deal with Xabulanque the Furst Pyro Archon. Which i think Ronova is the God of the Night Kingdom and the Shade of death. Xabulanque's deal might be what made the Ode of Resurrection possible

[@adult_nubian]

I'm in love with the Rumeria ost you have in the background. Honestly my favourite ost of any region before Natlan

[@jameswolf929]

Cool fact about Richard Wagner (pronounced VAHGNUR) is that there is an adjective attributed to his name: "wagnerian" - meaning, having the enormous dramatic scale and intensity of a Wagner opera.

[@PsychoTomYTofficial]

No noooo 8:09 🥲🥲🥲 why did you leave in a cliffhanger

[@pushkarsb]

The Pyro Dragon will for sure be part of the story. It will be super weird if there's no story mention of them in the nation of dragons

[@wd8man596]

i love your storytelling athmosphere it makes the listener getting invested on what you are talking about and YOU KNOW what you're talking about and i love that part. believe me or not I don't give a damn about genshin's lore until i watched your genshin lore recap in your previous uploads and now i don't mind listening to you yappin about anything about genshin. you already have my sub! Keep up the good content!

[@dacianaisquixotic]

With the thought of Nibelung, I can't shake away the events that transpired in Simulanka. Idk if there was foreshadowing or what, but I feel we're going to meet another dragon or maybe 2

[@WhiteKoneko]

Well considering the leggo dragon fight had 3 heads...👀

[@pushkarsb]

Simulanka almost confirms either a future dragonspine event or a mondstadt interlude archon quest. If we wanna be optimistic, perhaps a mondstadt expansion, ventis 2nd story quest, and an introduction to either Alice or Varka.

[@ravishah2670]

wait what happend there can u sum it up? i was busy with irl stuffs so couldnt play genshin since last few months

[@MJcool-su7qk]

Honestly I thought the black dragon was nibulueg using abyssal powers to burn the world but that tree is in the way.

[@epicazeroth]

I'm pretty sure the dragon in the mural at 3:35 isn't Xiuhcoatl but someone else, probably Nibelung. It's a totally different color and design from the one Xbalanque is shown emerging from.

[@jaspercat6407]

You can pet a cat if you do the petrichor archon quest

[@komi7051]

Oh and fun fact, "Kapatcir" the Thunderbird . You can't name it to Sausarian, and he gives the same response when you try to name him with other Sovereign names

[@IDK-fn2fc]

actually i believe there is another type of cat petting furniture in the furniture tubby created

[@vanessaschaumberger9435]

In case you don't know yet: Play the Petrichor Arc.

[@SarahJJ2503]

I think the traveler being a monster who can destroy the world in a single bite could also refer to a star. They go supernova, and bye world lol, or a black hole. I mean it could 100% refer to a dragon too, but eh. The twins being stars is the theory that I love the most. (And isn’t it all but confirmed that’s what they are?)

[@Pre4xes_]

They are stars, it isn't a theory. Fell to teyvat like a star, and they have star motifs everywhere

[@AndikaPratama-nl4uc]

Though i have'nt touch genshin after furina banner, i still exited to watch your video just to keep up with the lore, Thank you minsleif.

[@eternity6590]

I wonder what happened to the dragons of the previous regions as we only started to see them in sameru and fountain

[@ShogunWay]

The death of the throne is the Death of the Archon and the BLACK DRAGON IN THE PAINTING IS THE DRAGON LORD HE BLACK AND IT SAYS HE SPITS BLACK FLAMES, on the 2 DIFFERENT PAINTINGS there are 2 different dragons @Minsleif❤

[@Jojoba-wz6ri]

Just learned in most recent quest in 5.2 part 2 that humans are descendants of dragons.

[@amaz1ngchr1s57]

We need more of Sovereigns like we seriously know nothing bout them especially the Electro sovereign... like fr

[@Falsic]

Maybe we dont purify abyssal corruption. Maybe we swallow it by drawing it in. In which case, will there be a point where we can no longer hold any more?

[@nicolas._.2294]

We had no sign of abyssal power in us, meaning we don't swallow and keep it

[@Falsic]

@@nicolas._.2294 At a glance, neither does the sibling. We don't know the threshold of it affecting us. From what we can see, the abyss doesn't affect us in the same way as natives; the traveler may simply not be experiencing any symptoms yet.

[@il0v3luffy]

i love this channel so much !! best lore explainer !!! :)

[@randomizerperson]

It's also a popular theory in the CN Genshin community that Azhdaha could be the Geo Sovereign, or their reincarnation. There isn't an exact title for "Sovereign" in CN, just "Dragon King". Azhdaha titles in CN ("Dragon King", "Lord of Vishaps", and "Sealed King of Geo Dragons") are shared with the Sovereigns, including Neuvilette ("Dragon King of Water"). He is extremely old (acknowledged by Zhongli), and he is very strong (evidenced by his battle with Morax and the Adepti after erosion). Kun Jun and Neuvilette have similar abilities: the former can read the "memories" of stones, and the latter can feel the "emotion" of water. Correct me if I'm wrong, but so far only these two characters have had such an emphasis on their elemental resonance/mastery. Jiu and Kun Jun's dialogue from Zhongli's second story quest also alludes to Azhdaha (or his previous incarnation) being present for the events of Before Sun and Moon. Notably, Jiu (Azhdaha's eroded amnesiac "fragment") refuses to "swear an allegiance to this insect", with "insect" referring to Morax. It is fitting that the Geo Sovereign who has lost his memory would look down upon being on good terms with an Archon.

[@MNM2INC]

the biggest mystery still to this day is where and what happened to the electro sovereign

[@JdnotMain]

Ok like hear me out cause this is what i got from this vid HAHAHA Imagine If the Dragon King is either part of the Primordial Dragons or the one that rules over (as stated in the vid) them but holds all the authority of all the elements? Or probably hold the omni element that everyone is talking about (ex: the Omni Dice in tcg) And that further proves that the Traveler might be the reincarnation of the Dragon king since the traveler can wield the elemental powers without a vision and they inherit that from the Dragon king? Lol Alr that's enough yapping

[@Lil_Noot]

The traveler possibly being the successor or reincarnated form of Nibelung just broke my brain 😂

[@chakraace9823]

8:00 it's not the traveler i guess, should be Paimon. 'Reborn' matches exactly with Paimon.

[@MinjunSeo7120]

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[@Minsleif]

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[@MinjunSeo7120]

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[@realb.8211]

i don't know how this game has such enormous lore

[@ciara1snotrans]

You can per cats in a Fontaine world quest,It's name is osse.

[@cyrus2994]

Since version 5.0 Tubby sells a blue version of the Throne of Meower called Throne of Purr-fection in the richest of the realm section.

[@syahirnotzir9955]

fyi, you can pet a cat on Petrichor island in Fontaine

[@asianman7807]

I might just be stupid but I just realised something when elemental authority was being mentioned. The travellers kit reflects whoever possesses the elemental authority.

[@imikokodama3054]

I just want to bring attention to the scale and complexity of the world building in Genshin Impact. Additionally, given time, it may link back to the Honkai universe, which adds even more credence to my statement that this story is LITERALLY epic. Consider the Illiad and/or The Odysee, by “Homer”. The scale of those stories, stories such as “The Epic of Gilgamesh” are part of what makes those stories timeless classics and masterpieces. I firmly believe that Teyvat and Genshin Impact are contemporary types of something similar. When I think of the future of story telling, I think of video games. Particularly, I think of Hoyoverse. Sharing this journey with you all has been one of the highlights of my life. The cultural, historical, artistic, literary, and social relevance of these games is top notch. Minslief does an excellent job breaking things down for us. I like reading the lore and discovering for myself but… I’ll admit I watch every single Minslief video.

[@sopianwahyudi]

tbh it wont surprise me if Bennet turned out to be reincarnated pyro dragon that lost his memory 😊

[@calladricosplays]

People are starting to wonder if Capitano may be a crocodile because of the dove egg (Columbina) and croc egg

[@EarlLazuli]

When traveler touch the mural. It said that someone is laughing and said this isn't about "you" to traveler. I don't think traveler have any related to dragon

[@mohdux]

Great theory thanks for sharing, Now I think about seems like the five sinners have divided them selfs a power could shatter the whole world (this must be power of Neblum the returning dragon king with forbidden knowledge) + Dain had the ring of Neblum confirms they fought him during the cataclysm.

[@pjongguiyab6036]

Just like the lore of ASOIAF, Genshin lore is so great and the current happenings are just the tip of the iceberg.

[@DEMONSTRATOR71]

Man i am tellin ya, the Pyro dragon is gonna have a Rodan entry from KOTM

[@fushigurokris4599]

about the traveller being the successor of Nibelung they are referred to the chosen of the dragons if I recall correctly, in the mission we discover more about the pyro dragon, so yeah, it could be

[@GrassFudge7]

I remember you can pet a cat in petrichor if you do the quest in case you missed the event!!

[@guujigaming]

After all this time, I’m still very curious as to what Miyuki meant by “these trees serve to suppress the one who lies beneath”. I’ve done some research on this topic, and there is nothing hinting at what entity she is actually referring to. All we know is that Miyuki instantly regrets giving the information in her next voice line. Could she be referring to the electro dragon sovereign??

[@jaydiarie]

But if traveler was the dragon successor, it wouldn’t make sense because we’re an alien from another world apparently? And we have a sibling? Right? genshin lore is too complicated 4 my brain

[@Lokibhai69]

I think their is some misinterpreted about killing a shining shade . That pic depict celestia envoy not a shining shade both are different

[@EdmundSetsu]

after seeing the thumbnail it got me manifesting neuvilette singing World Is Mine

[@UwU-yg8bu]

That is a good theory at the end, it might happen if we have to fight against our siblings kinda like reincarnation of the fight between nibulung which is us and our siblings as the heavenly principle or primordial one

[@petrpopopepe1764]

3:37 Do we know that those are Shades and not Seelies. We know that Seelies are fallen Envoys of Celestia. And We know That there were Enboys of Celestia in Natlan. Also isn't the Pyro Dragon colored mostly Red with little bit of gold and Black instead of mostly black with Purple and Gold. With the scene of him dead with Xbalanque winning over him he is red , in name card he is red. So wouldn't this be different dragon then the Pyro sovereign since they look different from each other. Like if we look at their heads they look different even if we don't count the color.

[@KelumKey]

We know pyro dragon burn layne lines and seele. On of the heavenly envoy died for people sake

[@WayneZvidza-qh2dp]

That isn't the pryo dragon because there ate two images one of the pyro dragon being killed by Xbalanque and the other one is the father if all dragons Nibelongue because their wings are different the other one has red lines and the other had purple which means the father of all the dragons is the one who killed a shade

[@Saedris]

Alien god? Humans descending upon a terraformed land? Sound familiar...

[@Kaliannna]

I know it was just a segue, but they added a furniture to the teapot to pet cats! it's in Tubby's shop

[@AuGAlaN]

I LOVE YOUR LORE VIDEOS MINSLEIF MIHOYO PAY THIS WOMEN

[@aidanlyons25]

I remember when Neuvillette was the thumbnail.

[@hocineberziga8246]

Wait hold on, so now its Neuvillette who gives hydro visions to ppl?

[@meisterl0]

Bless you lore channels

[@MuhammedShaaban-sn3qu]

I thought Apip couldn't get the full knowledge of King Deshert because his body was poisoned by forbidden knowledge.

[@kotarouinugami1745]

The moment she ate King Deshret, she got a bad case of forbidden knowledge, and could not process everything she has learned. Or maybe could not process anything she has learned. But from my understanding, forbidden knowledge has always been her goal in that bargain.

[@MuhammedShaaban-sn3qu]

@@kotarouinugami1745 Yep

[@calladricosplays]

Is the forbidden knowledge the reason why those who spend too much time in the abyss are cursed? With gray hair and whatever dain has? It would explain why Kaeya knows so much...

[@kotarouinugami1745]

Dainsleif looks more-or-less exactly the same as all pure-blood people of Khaenri'ah, and did not visually change in the Cataclysm. He seems to be suffering from Erosion badly, even if not on the level of Qiqi. Spending time in the Abyss doesn't seem to inflict any particular curses. Tartaglia, Skirk and Scaramouche spent a lot of time there, without any particular side effects. But it is said that somewhere deep in the Abyss, one can find Forbidden Knowledge. And while hilichurl shamans seem to carry it around with no particular problems (beyond being hilichurls), to humans, gods and even dragons it brings madness and pain.

[@pump-kin113]

Wow min putting sponsors at the end I am watching it eventhou i dont care about it W min

[@71775926]

I'm only pointing this out since you're very accurate with pronunciation of names (Still the only creator I watch who gets Liyue's pronunciation correct). Wagner is actually "VARG-Ner". German name syllables starting with W are pronounced with the V sound.

[@greenth-mac2550]

Some of this fictional stuff I really hate, however I'm interested in learning what the archons know of the ancient dragons and residents of celestia. They know lot of stuff but refuse to elaborate because they are not allowed I think.

[@adrift-at-c]

I was under the impression that Nibelung was the Second Who Came? My understanding was that Nibelung and the other dragons were defeated and had their authority stolen, so Nibelung left Teyvat in search of a weapon to fight the Primordial One with, and came back with forbidden knowledge. Nibelung's time away from Teyvat, and their deep contamination with forbidden knowledge, meant that by the time they returned they had become alien enough to qualify as a Descender.

[@Pre4xes_]

Definitely not, because why would nibelung work with the primordial one to create gnosis? I also don't think that nibelung has a will that rival the world

[@adrift-at-c]

@@Pre4xes_ That's not true. According to Neuvillette's "Vision" character story, the Primordial One worked with "the One Who Came After," not "the Second Who Came". Presumably, the one who came after refers to the third descender, which makes a lot more sense. The Second would never collaborate with the Primordial One, even if they aren't Nibelung, because the Second *also* wanted the Primordial One dead. Going back to the character story, the Primordial One needed to make the gnoses because they were injured in "the war of vengeance." That can't be the Primordial One's original conflict with the dragons because A) they weren't injured in that conflict, and B) nobody would've wanted revenge until *after* that conflict. That doesn't necessarily mean that the war of vengeance and the conflict with the Second are the same conflict, but it does make that a viable theory. Looking for proof, the wiki article on the gnosis specifically says the Primordial One was injured by Nibelung, but it only cites that same character story, which does not actually say anything about Nibelung *or* the Second, so it can't be used to confirm which being was the culprit. Nibelung's wiki article makes no mention of them being the Second, so their use in the gnosis article might just be the result of an overzealous wiki writer.

[@briannapage8653]

I really feel like that flame is the pyro dragon sovereign or its consciousness or something, and mavuika has to borrow the power because she's only human so she cant muster the pyro element on her own and perhaps you need some divinity in order to bless people with the power of pyro and thats why we cant resonate with the statues, other archons had their divinity so im just speculating that it may be a requirement. I'm open to interpretations of my theory!!

[@mirandatorres2642]

So neuvillette can control handing out visions but the archons can't?

[@AmbroseVermillion]

Yes, he doesn’t obey Celestia rules meanwhile the Archons are forced to obey and are also unaware of the vision provess

[@DARLINGTON-dn6ex]

@@AmbroseVermillion plus archons are fake authority cant really use stolen power to it full potential

[@BakhitsRifqiNarwindra_]

then..... fontaine is actually a "free" nation right? Because there is no archon only a dragon to be the highest authority at the moment

[@elisabethnunez4569]

1. 7:41-7:44. OMG that would be crazy. 2. Hey Minsleif, any idea on who the other Dragon Sovereigns?

[@KelumKey]

Dvalin and Ajdaha

[@Pre4xes_]

​@@KelumKeynot confirmed

[@barny541]

8:09 is there a mod that gives world quests voice audio?

[@nourellecalam6805]

Just how powerful is the first human pyro archon to be able to defeat the pyro sovereign

[@Pre4xes_]

Not that powerful, the pyro sovereign was weakened after the war with the primordial one, it also didn't have their authority. Xabalanque also borrowed power from the shade of death.

[@2009_Smiling]

I come from school. I see Minsleif. I click.❤❤❤❤

[@deadfrogsong1723]

So there's actually debate as to what the mural actually says. Like the other theory is that it's Nibelung burning the Irminsul tree in Natlan.

[@kotarouinugami1745]

We're pretty sure the central mural is the first Pyro Archon and his friend, the Sage of Stolen Flame, forging a way for dragons and humans to coexist. But it is hard to ascertain what exactly happened in the chaos of war on the side murals. Forbidden Knowledge was probably involved.

[@deadfrogsong1723]

@@kotarouinugami1745 Sure, but on 3:38, Minsleif says that the mural "depicting the pyro dragon shows it killing one of the shining shades..." I was referring to the mural where actually there is more consensus that the dragon there isn't the pyro dragon.

[@Pre4xes_]

​@@deadfrogsong1723it's nibelung, black dragon and it says the dragon spit black fire, which is abyss powers I assume. The dragon in the other mural looks different than the one minslief showed.

[@xxChox]

Wdym I missed being able to pet the cats 😭😭😭

[@montalvo59]

😢soooo Sad i was expecting a longer Video, Minsleif got me hipped then it Fated Away. Still appreciate the Knowlede. 😋Salamat😋

[@kcelenemkrishnan7778]

Isn't Adzhda the Sovereign of earth? He was able to go toe to toe with the geo archon back in the day.

[@jjck3219]

its wierd kinichs dragon call itself a dragon sovereign. thought its funny if he was the dendro dragon or pyro.

[@ajayshiggaon5578]

Dvalin, azhdaha and kapacitir are most likely the anemo geo and electro sovereigns respectively Explanation: (spoilers for the natlan quest) when we name the saurian companion at the beginning of the quest, naming him neuvillete or apep(confirmed sovereigns) he gets stressed and pressurised, and the same thing happens with dvalin azhdaha and kapacitir

[@kotarouinugami1745]

I think you aren't allowed to name him after any established character in the game, including humans.

[@ajayshiggaon5578]

@@kotarouinugami1745 yes, naming him after any playable character isn’t allowed but the saurian actually gives a reaction to naming him after the mentioned names

[@3ynroc3]

As a German it’s weird to hear someone say thank you Wagner 😄

[@petrpopopepe1764]

2:54 Does that really count as Death? The Focalors we see in oratrice was newer nothing more than Focalors' Divinity and Memories. So Does "Death" of those really count as Death of Focalors when her soul lingers in her body and when that body still has beating heart . Like her body and soul, things Focalors had before even becoming a human, are still alive so does that really count as death when its really only death of someone's Divinity. Like do we count Marchosius and Herblord as death because they lost their powers (Marchosius also lost Divinity) and memories, Like their bodies are still alive and Talking . Like others talk about Gouba and Chansheng as if they are still alive and as they are still Marchosius and Herblord. And Other Archons and Specialy Zhongli talks about Focalors' body as if She is Focalors. Calling Focalors (Oratrice) as her Divinity and that this Divinity perished .

[@gabinson3584]

What if the fatui is collecting gnosis to create their own dragon and fight the celestia using them. Just what if heheh

[@Pre4xes_]

No because the gnosis are the 3rd descender, wouldn't make sense unless the 3rd descender is a dragon which I highly doubt

[@neilgaming2127]

The fatui aren't stupid, u don't do something u can't control. U don't do something u can't trust. If the thing has feelings, find another way. If the fatui really wants to revive their own dragon. They probably has something as a backup that can kill their own dragon incase that dragon goes friendship bullcrap

[@El241Special]

I beg 100% in Natlan the pyro dragon sovereign will be revived

[@KelumKey]

I don’t think this is good idea

[@DARLINGTON-dn6ex]

@@KelumKey i want it to happen

[@KUROFEYMURPHY]

Yay so excited for this video

[@gauthamvinod8952]

what is tsaritsa or the cryo dragon (if alive)is trying to take the 7 elemental powers for itself ??or making a new being which can use all 7 elements.just a possibility ig. and the role of childe or the fatui is to observe traveller ??or there might even be a possibilty that paimon is a creation of tsarista or cryo dragon after seeing the journy of the 1st siblings journey to study the 2nd siblings journey. or maybe even tsaritsa doesnt have a say in this and the dragon is the one controlling the fatui......taking the 7 gnosis to create a new being to fight celestia and not trying to befriend the traveller after the 1st sibling couldnt win or fully complete the journey

[@cristianros3259]

Does anyone think that the power Venti gives to Dvalin could maybe be the anemo authority, I would like to see Dvalin returning as a sovereign.

[@KelumKey]

No, because divine throne not destroyed