The ORIGINAL Plan For Arthur Was TOO DARK For The Game 😱😨

[@Javier-Morgan803]

Bro would’ve had no mercy for micah

[@XPGamingXPDK]

​@Dave-of2mmIn a gunfight apparently Micah and Arthur was both incredibly close but in a fist fight yeah he would kick everybody in that gangs ass

[@JonceTrivolti]

​@@XPGamingXPDKNot even slightly close.

[@willdale9773]

Shit yeah

[@offelijah7816]

​@JonceTrivolti Bro john literally couldn't even get a legit shot on Micah. So I think if John couldn't beat Micah in a 1v1 gunfight then I do not think arthur can.

[@3to4characters]

​@@XPGamingXPDKhell no, even with tb in the last mission, when micah tried to draw his gun on him, arthur drew it first. Arthur would 100% win in a gunfight.

[@theschneple-empire7156]

They should've made a part of the honor system. The lower honor the darker the character

[@Zaethian]

Would’ve been great

[@howdoinamemychannel]

that’s what it does

[@howdoinamemychannel]

@intonerfive besides changing how people talk to you, perks, the literal ending and alot more

[@GamingCoyote595]

They technically already did that where low honor Arthur's voice lines were a little colder and menacing but not as cold as Beta Arthur's voice, he sounds like a man who has nothing to lose and lost all emotions.

[@Milliethepumpkin]

@@GamingCoyote595even with low honor, Arthur still has his family

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

Arthur baby freezing to death is cold af

[@ii6975]

This one was... Really cold.

[@KH-rt3ef]

What if Arthur’s wasn’t so… chill? What if he was… cold??

[@livincity3213]

Literally

[@Brain_Dead_Redemption]

lmfao

[@alf8338]

Poor choice of words😂

[@rainyeyesparty]

The only problem with this Arthur, is that seems to have little to no humanity, so taking Micah and Dutch crap would be less realistic, this Arthur would blow their brains in a split second to take control of the gang

[@Im2lazy4thisCrit]

@@OGMaverickGamingIt definitely sounds like it

[@Luxan-yf4rv]

​@@OGMaverickGamingyou make an amazing argument

[@jmgonzales7701]

this would make arthur an anti villian

[@Luxan-yf4rv]

@@jmgonzales7701 yea

[@rampagerichard]

I would have loved to see that shit we got fuckin robbed of that 😒😒😒😒

[@The.Great3st]

İmagine THİS ARTHUR fight micah

[@Bluewolf2264]

Believe me, micah wouldn't fight him at the first place ☠️

[@Summonxz]

Thing is Tb would still break him

[@The.Great3st]

​@@Bluewolf2264if he would, then ....... i dont want to say

[@The.Great3st]

@@Summonxz i dont think so 💀

[@Summonxz]

​@EROR404KSY63 Arthur was already strong and cold but in low honour even more but when arthur got Tb Micah took advantage but if he never got Tb Micah would not even fight him 💀

[@sl9wdive]

I like it, it makes his redemption much more impactful

[@elixavibuddies2951]

IM EXACTLY THE 300TH LIKE AND THE 1ST REPLY LESGO0O0O0O0O0O0 :D

[@TheAverageGamer1]

Might as well make it part of the lore tbh

[@MyLuvEllie]

@@elixavibuddies2951who the fuck cares?? Like holy shit shut up

[@jozs8]

you can't make the chatacter seem too irredeemable otherwise it would be unrealistic

[@nlrVana_]

​@@jozs8 its possible if handled well, look at the character of Darth Vader they handled his redemption perfectly.

[@johnrockyryan]

Just proves how much of a great actor Rodger Clark is just by the sound of his voice you can tell this Arthur was one vicious bastard

[@SlurpyPie]

They should've made this a part of the honor system so that when you're at low honor you get this version of Arthur. It would've added alot more depth to the honor system imo

[@nickandy01]

This Arthur wouldn't get tuberculosis, he would simply turn the tuberculosis into just a stuffy nose and then casually finish off Micah using his own fists.

[@cuckmeister3193]

​@RockRiverathe colder Arthur would probably be less likely to get tuberculosis, alot more calculated and more self seeking, helping less people, lowering his chance of getting TB

[@soullessginger9912]

@@cuckmeister3193well since he got TB from a man he basically beat to death, I don’t know about that.

[@IllIllIllIllIII]

​@@soullessginger9912 exactly, he's claiming the opposite of reality

[@kadenfielder4736]

You mean with one punch

[@JavertRA]

The Chuck Norris of the Old West

[@ForDeutschland]

That chuckle is the most terrifying thing I’ve ever heard

[@GamingCoyote595]

Thats Dutch

[@CafLichy]

He sounds crazy

[@theneighbor1603]

Fr

[@SeriaIDesignation_J]

@@GamingCoyote595 ?

[@arcticeagle342]

Dutch does that in the base game even

[@tyersalladam4735]

This Arthur will definitely shoot Micah and Dutch both for failing the blackwater job and take over the gang.

[@DuckyEditzYT]

Micah's head would be in Arthur's hands if he was like this💀

[@SparrowValentine]

You’re a good man, Arthur Morgan. Arthur Morgan: 😡🤬👹👺

[@jmgonzales7701]

well he was always rutheless

[@SirDankleberry]

@@jmgonzales7701 Fair. A good man can be ruthless.

[@TheJoker-gg8hc]

@sparrowvalentine he shot up Valentine and Strawberry, then proceeded to shoot up Rhodes and Saint Denis. Before doing that, he burns a plantation down. Let's not forget he roams the country with a guy that headshot a kid. What else.... didn't he toss that hot air balloon guy out? What exactly about Arthur Morgan makes him a good person? Y'all are all so quick to bash Micah like Arthur didn't help him destroy the gang. Saying hello to strangers and doing chores is not "being a good person".

[@MrBigBazinga]

@@TheJoker-gg8hcYeah that’s true if Arthur were to actually lose honor for doing the main story missions he’d be at rock bottom. Canon Arthur in the story is a bad guy You can just play him as a friendly guy in the open world but that doesn’t change that he’s not good

[@xXSilentAgent47Xx]

@@SirDankleberry There's no "good" man when he robs, shoot, kill and many other stuffs he caused. He did try some good things in the end before it's too late. That's about redemption. R stands for a character who had been doing awful things. D for brutal ending of his casualties. And Redemption for doing some good stuffs before it's too late. RDR 1 and 2 had both doing good stuffs in the end.

[@it_is6954]

If we had THIS Arthur, he would have just shot Micah without any remorse inside the camp at the beginning of chapter 6

[@DeadX2]

Nah Micah solos 🗿

[@RealJavierEscuella]

@@DeadX2 Nuh uh

[@DeadX2]

@@RealJavierEscuella yeah huh

[@it_is6954]

@@DeadX2 he couldn’t even kill a dying man

[@GamingCoyote595]

@@it_is6954 And Arthur's draw time was quicker than Micah's draw at the end of chapter 6 and Arthur even had TB

[@piercehubbard4086]

I like the Arthur we got. He could be ruthless and cold-blooded, but loyal and compassionate as well. It made him a better protagonist.

[@nor-wood]

Agreed This Arthur would've been much harder to sympathize with.

[@xxe2]

​@@nor-wood🤡

[@acornlord4553]

If we ever get another prequel I’d love to see this type of character on Arthur. The ruthless, Dutch’s right hand man and number one enforcer type of character would be cool. Another dude in the camp that would get shit done (assuming we wouldn’t be playing as him)

[@1polyron1]

Charles: "You ain't as tough and dense as all that." Arthur: "Tell meeee...."

[@user-cf7so5mm7l]

😂😂😂

[@justinx590]

I love that line from Charles

[@Gary.009]

Roger Clark does such an amazing job.. he made Arthur sound as if he's filled with so much adrenaline that it seems as if he's shaking from nerves and as if he can't wait to unleash his anger.

[@drno62]

Sounds more like Curzon Dobell to my ear

[@hattchetman_2128]

​@@drno62doesn't matter cuz you wrong

[@hattchetman_2128]

​@@drno62doesn't matter cuz you wrong

[@drno62]

@@hattchetman_2128 I didn’t say it _was_ him, just that he sounded like it

[@jimhawkens7414]

The idea that arthur had a baby that froze to death and he blamed himself and became cold and mean towards everyone honestly would have made the smaller moments like taking jack fishing mean a lot more. And the ending where he sacrifices himself to save John way more impactful tbh. The moment with the nun where he talks about how he's afraid. The entire game could have been way sadder and more emotional if they kept that

[@splattt8088]

That bit of acting might’ve been Clark’s best as Arthur. Would have really made his “redemption” better, he never really comes off as evil unless you purposely make him so. The appearance would fit the harsh life more too

[@incognitomode3306]

Arthur sounds psychotic in that line. He sounds like he really of wants to kill that guy..

[@godofgame1874]

it's because the original plan for the prologue was going to be about the gang's journey through the mountains, Eliza and Isaac both were supposed to be part of the game too, however Isaac was supposed to have froze to death at one point during the prologue, hence Arthur's old voice lines being far more bitter

[@TheGentleMan1516]

⁠@@godofgame1874 I wonder if Issac was gonna be the name for the baby and Eliza being Arthurs love interest

[@TheShadowfist45]

​@@TheGentleMan1516 Arthur did have a son named Isaac, with a woman named Eliza as confirmed in the game by Arthur himself, what happened was they simply switched the plot to where the two were murdered by some bandits essentially, while Arthur was away. He mentions it to the Native Chief during their ride to their sacred ground. If we had seen that in game, I think his anger would've seen him get significantly worse through chapter 1-2 then he'd probably kill Micah, blaming him for them being in the mountains to begin with due to his blackwater scheme. Then his redemption arc would actually begin, as members of the gang who he actually cares about start dying, also it would emphasize his care for John to keep his family even more

[@Alan78941]

I would have loved the cold Arthur as much as the rational Arthur. The cold Arthur lost his child, that would be enough to make anyone feel wreckless. Arthur will always be a beloved character regardless of how the developers made him.

[@shizamza]

He’s a great balance of kindness and grit tbh. He didn’t need to be colder

[@sketchmark1483]

I actually like it. Back when rdr1 came out I always envisioned The Van Der Linde gang be a lot more savage and ruthless than they are in rdr2, so I think this would be a really cool version of the game to see

[@AimlessSavant]

They are savage. They are ruthless. You only feel it in the end when they turn on eachother.

[@beastmasterbg]

​@AimlessSavant yes! The manipulation to the gamers playing thinking they all are good people , in reality they kill on and on 100s , thousands and ruining and damaging everything

[@Djirifoekrkfkf]

​@AimlessSavant yeah but they aren't as ruthless as like the odriscolls. John in rdr1 says the gang wasn't that bad because they had a code until they eventually all went crazy

[@Sarcastican_]

​@@mitchellclark4320"We've turned into a bunch of killers, I mean it. We ain't even got the delusion of being anything but a bunch of killers" - Hosea

[@John-996]

​@@DjirifoekrkfkfThat was never how they were described in RDR1 John even says it wasnt our way when you see what Bills men had done.

[@umf776]

that “clean open” gave me mad goosebumps😭

[@JoJoDivines]

dont care

[@umf776]

@@JoJoDivines who tf asked you

[@Nevergoingtogiveyouup2030]

Honestly it felt so cold

[@melow9463]

@@JoJoDivinesstfu no one asked

[@sharonthomas2413]

@@umf776ur Chanel’s ass lil bro☠️

[@IAmEny12]

Arthur is already so cold he’s like a icicle but here this man turned into an iceberg 🥶🥶🥶🥶❄️❄️❄️❄️

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

As it turns out a murderous bandit isn't a very good person

[@jojodaniel214]

He already lost a son

[@mrminkman952]

Yeah they were always going to have him be a parent with a dead child, but the weight of the event being so recent would have made him more ruthless.

[@Anonymus_M8]

If this was Arthur, we would always have to play Low Honor

[@Itz_Debs]

Yeah- the baby was going to be Isaac. But since Isaac's death was so much more recent obviously Arthur would be more heartbroken over it and be colder towards others.

[@Anonymus_M8]

@@Itz_Debs Yeah, but the mother. Would she be Jenny? Or Eliza?

[@herbiethelovebugg]

​@@Anonymus_M8could be marry

[@El_Krani]

I like to believe that prior to blackwater Arthur was definitely a bit different and darker, even when you talk to the camp folks they seem to always allude to how weird, violent, and distant he is. But during the gameplay alot of us see the kindness and heartwarming nature of Arthur and sometime the other stuff. So who knows maybe the blackwater massacre marked a small shift in his personality that we didnt see happen, its totally possible that an event like that could change a person even if by very little. Maybe like Dutch who from the very beginning was already losing his marbles prior to blackwater, Arthur was also going through personal change from before we even start our journey with him

[@PamperedEagle]

I understand Artur. Black sheep in a white flock. He does bad things, but in reality he is a good and empathetic person, which makes him feel ashamed of himself and has remorse. This condemns him to low self-esteem. PS. Life writes different scenarios🥴

[@ryanabrahams8061]

He isnt really that good during the first 2 or so chapters either though. It was the TB that made him start actually having morals. Sure there might be a few moments where he seems nice. But even MICAH has moments of being nice so that doesnt mean much

[@Skylingale]

Arthur wasn't even a part of what happened at Blackwater to be as effected by it as you say he was. Dude didn't even really know what happened for a while after it happened too lol.

[@godzillazfriction]

​@@PamperedEagleyou really don't 'understand' Arthur at all if you actually believe that...

[@godzillazfriction]

​@@ryanabrahams8061omg, the RDR2 community are just boring and typical Drone-spec minded buffoons who don't have any ounces of comprehension skills, independent critical/analytical thinking and an outlook on different perspectives...

[@operator_wolus_ASG]

I can hear micah in his voice

[@Elitenez]

Not really, Micah was a likable character for lots. The end is what made people hate him. Me personally even before that point I didn't like him, I just hated his personally

[@breadman235]

Not at all

[@Heviliation]

I have been searching for this short for like months and now it finally appears when I don’t need it 😭

[@Nichole_299]

Holy hell Rodger Clark is amazing. Being able to capture the Arthur we all know now AND this stone cold ruthless killer.. (well even more than he already is) his range of the more threatening side of Arthur and his more vulnerable side of when he tells the sister “I’m afraid” is truly astonishing. He is an amazing actor

[@MR_Nickanator]

Arthur being that ruthless would have killed Micah earlier on or would have left him to rot on jail. They had to tone it down to make it believable.

[@Local-Vibes4444]

And he wouldn't have done half the things he did in the game, micah only stuck around to help the camp due to the money dutch was hiding he wanted to rob them, athur probably been the same which would have ruined most of the story, jack looking up to him as a uncle, john looking up to him as a older brother everyone else willing to do things for the camp due to him, alot of the story wouldn't work with him being that dark

[@boyce5994]

Lmaooo RDR was the MOST tamed version of outlaws I have ever seen in my life, extemely PG 13 compared to other outlaw media we have. My arthur killed every civilian he seen on the road.

[@jinxthatsme2317]

Agreed. I personally preferred the depiction of outlaws that RDR1 showed. In one mission John and the Marshall head to a farm to find innocent farmers slaughtered, the naked corpse of a man dangling from a noose, and women who were raped by members of the gang. And you later find out that Bill Williamson was the man responsible for the attack, which is meant to give the player insight into the type of men John used to ride with before he reformed his life.

[@TheWilku22]

​@@jinxthatsme2317that scene was fantastic because it showed how much of a cruel bastard Bill was. But in a second game this fool cant even get a Simple job done... Rockstar kinda dropped the ball with the gang and how they were behaving

[@pro-um6ed]

Bro Arthur sounded like ray from call of Juarez

[@Tabby3456]

It would be neat to see Arthur adopt a personality similar to their moral alignment, which there are some scenes that ARE differences depending if you're playing a high or low honor Arthur Morgan

[@jackslepowron5905]

Ya that bothers me with the game kind of ruins immersion when the characters act all moral but you're killing whole towns sometimes lol

[@szynkacz1069]

I would love to see R*'s original plan for RDR2, where they wouldn't be limited by budget and time

[@davidwhyde9892]

It would be a masterpiece

[@yasslegends2520]

It's already a masterpiece, but imagine if the gold was more shiner than it already is ​@@davidwhyde9892

[@marlonlouie9541]

​@@davidwhyde9892it already is a masterpiece. If they had more time and a bigger budget I think it would've been the greatest game of all time

[@faloaverdade4620]

@@marlonlouie9541 it already is the greatest game of all time

[@Riceeneu]

@@faloaverdade4620it would be the greates game possible… oh wait

[@Neothargic]

"I got some jelly beans, you like jelly beans?" - Arthur Morgan

[@woianphipps1230]

Dutch turned bro into a machine…

[@Bluewolf2264]

Believe me, micah wouldn't fight him at the first place ☠️

[@desiree2401]

micah

[@Delboy219]

micah

[@marcowulliampopirers2216]

He wouldn't because this arthur would have probably just killed micah in jail

[@DeadX2]

Nah he would and he’d win 🗿

[@Multifandom387]

​@@DeadX2 My guy he would NOT win, this Arthur would pull out a gun and shoot Micah without hesitation even in a fist fight when he leasts expects it

[@spades7996]

I want them to put this arthur in the game but name him something else, make him extremely hard to fight, and disable deadeye for the fight.

[@JurassicPark2010]

So Arthur would fight himself????

[@davidwhyde9892]

@@JurassicPark2010he would fight a less honorable more angry version of himself

[@JurassicPark2010]

@@davidwhyde9892 How will he fight himself? He hops dimensions? Becomes friends with Rick and Morty? (I actually could see that happening)

[@Wip_Osp]

​@@JurassicPark2010 maybe it could be like a mental battle, like a metaphor for his inner conflict between high honor and low honor,

[@SSJWAnimation]

@@Wip_Ospcould’ve made it where its like if your honour is perfectly balanced between high and low. Towards the end of the game Arthur had this mental battle in either a dream or when he collapses from his TB for the first time and this is sort of him fighting himself? I guess.

[@GodWarsX]

It sounds more like Roger was still trying to nail down the voice

[@ThreeDog498]

I can't imagine the pain and feelings of failure a father would feel if his baby froze. He would feel like it was his job to protect and provide for his kid but he couldn't even do that right, like it was his fault. It would feel like he murdered his baby. That's a pain and a desperation for redemption that I can't really fathom. A darkness that would chill even the warmest soul.

[@tofuyeahman439]

This Arthur would have smoked Micah in 2 seconds

[@markbutmark4145]

I prefer Arthur’s voice as it is but it would be nice to see him be more ruthless

[@Mrkalim-x6d]

He sounds like woody Harrelson😂

[@aslightlystablefootsoldier9838]

Ngl having an inner struggle to take anguish out on the world only to realise this isn’t what the baby would’ve wanted causing the redemption would be pretty cool too.

[@skxlter5747]

Arthurs' story had to be rewritten a few times, that's why there was different dialogue choices, so then they settled with him being a mix betweeb ruthless and merciful

[@nathancoffman3025]

Looks more like the poster

[@adammaloney3192]

The thing is this should've been how Arthur started out and gradually became a better man it always erked me that Arthur would beat a helpless sick man for a debt especially for me cuz I always play honorably it made no sense and wasn't in MY Arthur's character but if he started out as this angry man that had just lost his baby to the cold it would've made more sense in general. It would've even given Arthur more resentment towards Dutch because it was his and Micahs idea to do the boat job in Blackwater to begin with. I hate how the ratings hinder good story telling it seems nowadays movies and especially games are to afraid to really push the limits of their projects because they are afraid of backlash.

[@AndresPulido-nt4ce]

That laugh low-key gave me chills

[@gore-vision478]

Reminds me of Judge Holden

[@Itsyaboygert]

I think that was Dutch laughing not Arthur

[@Aaron0694]

​@@Itsyaboygert It was.

[@quinnerz.4875]

Bro this version of Arthurs voice he just sounds completely heartless 😬

[@gordonpeterson678]

He was already planned to appear in Revolver, I kid you not. He was replaced with Jack Swift, though.

[@JoMcD21]

This is literally the same Arthur we have. Arthur lost his son, just in a different way.

[@mightyinfidel5617]

Preferred. Its a dark game.

[@zimknxckb4ck]

btw he had child with whom?

[@nctsgrass]

@@zimknxckb4ckEliza, only mentioned once in the mission Archeology for beginners (optional line of dialogue). She was killed together with their child long before the game is set, even before Arthur met Mary.

[@mumme2004]

@@nctsgrassi don’t feel like your information is completely accurate

[@nevrz]

​@@mumme2004it's true

[@nctsgrass]

@@mumme2004 you can check it for yourself, look up “rdr2 Eliza and Isaac” and you’ll read the same info. Only thing in my comment that wasn’t explicitly stated but I deduced is that Arthur was with her way before Mary, and that’s because it makes the most narrative sense, considering Eliza was 19, Mary dated Arthur for a long time and he seemed a lot more mature when they split (since he wanted to genuinely marry Mary, but with Eliza he was still very immature & irresponsible, mirroring John’s behaviour a little).

[@Mr_moaiii]

Arthur realizing that he is a monster is better than him already knowing it 😢😢

[@John-996]

That is basically Arthur if you play Low Honour.

[@thegamingcreed4620]

@@John-996 I don't know however it would be interesting if Arthur blamed Dutch for his child's death.

[@GalexyHunterr]

I wouldn’t want to cry during the first day of playing the game so no

[@The_red_dead_guy1128]

Yo that old arthur design drawing goes kinda hard.

[@Bxred-Persxn]

His redemption and road to honor would've been even better so yeah

[@ReinhardtGuderian]

Micah would be absolutely destroyed by this version of Arthur

[@ZachDaKing]

Arthur Escuella in the intro

[@elduderino1617]

first version of Arthur basically looked like charles bronson

[@aaronblacke6425]

Tbh it probably would have made a lot of the plot points play out even better. Being mad at John that he would leave his family and the camp. Starting to resent Dutch’s selfish decisions.

[@TheBozoleum]

Arthur is perfect the way he is...

[@cuturu8724]

I love the way it came out.... the character development and story is a work of art

[@kennyx_290]

Imagine if low honor Arthur talked like this. It would make the experience even more immersive

[@kaijin713]

Yeah, there were only a few lines in the game where it reminded me that Arthur really isn’t supposed to be a good guy at least until chapter 6. I prefer the voice we have now by a mile though.

[@EddieJackson-xl2jp]

I prefer the beta voice L opinion u clown 🤡

[@EddieJackson-xl2jp]

I like the beta voice more L opinion u clown 🤡

[@godzillazfriction]

if you really think that utilising the term of 'Good guy' especially for Arthur in chapter 6 is a very well-written piece of what Humans are in actuality then you're solely mistaken (don't worry you're not the only one who believes this)...

[@coreymcewen8737]

The Arthur we got was perfect

[@NiCoNiCoNiCola]

His original look really looks similar to John. He's almost like a bargain bin Marston

[@NotSoOriginalKid]

He looks even more like roger clark in the beta verison of him

[@arcadeofgames]

I’m glad they changed it, so they could show Arthur really started looking for redemption. tho, it would be really good to hear something like this when fighting Micah.

[@randomstuffofgamingrg4784]

Jesus christ Imagine we got this Arthur but with low honour, suppose we could get a darker ruthless Arthur in his younger years in rdr3. Or play as the Callander boys

[@ACMR6297]

I think he should have developed into this character going towards the end. I liked how the game turned out but I just thought that him becoming a warmer person despite the worsening situation was strange

[@Klausinator451]

That does make sense. It'd make a LOT of sense especially if he was bitter about his circumstances at the end if he was evil, but accepting if he was good. He could still BE good too, just needed a LITTLE more pissed off interactions then the despondent depressed lines that were usually there. (They weren't bad and it wasn't Roger's fault either, I just wish the script had more fucked up moments of Arthur taking his anger out on people)

[@Deadhead450]

But wouldn't that mess up... you know, the Redemption? Or am I missing what you mean?

[@danmakes2497]

It's called redemption

[@M3TAH34D]

​@@danmakes2497 They should've left that to John

[@giuseppebellardita9936]

Bro trust me it can't be more cold than Jason Brody

[@bobbystruggle3658]

This is why I always played as a ruthless SOB because that’s what he was. Him knowing he’s dying because he beat a man over a debt is just Karma because Arthur had always been that man.

[@fanofeverything-tp9rc]

If Arthur was colder then he would have more wrongs to make and fix that made his Redemption alot harder

[@Bigblackballs335]

“I’ll kill you again in hell my friend” Arthur Morgan

[@chris_player2]

*low honor jingle*

[@Johnny_boi1313]

25:07 that Womp Womp was wild

[@Salamander676]

I always sensed this during the reveal trailer. At the time I kept wondering how Rockstar was gonna make such a cold and evil character the protagonist but then when the game was released, we got Arthur. The one we all know.

[@shoazdon7000]

Yeah the ‘on your behalf’ scene in the trailers definitely alludes to this. It’s almost like a split personality in a lot of ways

[@raedalmawla4509]

Honestly, micah wouldve shit his pants in all chapters, he wouldnt be talking to arthur this bad💀 Im famous😃👍

[@amirhossein_2849]

This Arthur could be interesting to see

[@christopherpettit4575]

Imagine going low honor and hearing him be even more intimidating

[@angelsinner6669]

arthur to micah: “tell me do you bleed” 🩸👺👹👹

[@CooperBryanBoyd]

Arthur with micahs personality:

[@juliannnnnnnnnnnnn]

they should have mosty definitelty made him colder, like the trailers suggest.

[@carterskindle7086]

We all love the Arthur we got, so trying to imagine a colder, darker, and completely different character is difficult. However, putting bias aside, this Arthur could have been fantastic. The redemption of his story could have been a lot more drastic and (maybe) more impactful. Also, this Arthur fits in a lot more with what we imagined the gang to be like back before rdr2 released. This feels a lot more like the psychotic, merciless people that are described in rdr1 rather than the band of misfits that are presented in rdr2.

[@dee-jo5hw]

He sounds like that candy guy from django

[@Zachgamesandvlogs]

I 100% rather this one, especially if Arthur won the fight against Micah

[@Idk-dude144]

This Arthur would’ve tore Micah up at the start😂 of

[@YaBoiBrendo]

That’s how I imagine Lyle Morgan looked and sounded

[@chief664]

The stuff about the baby is interesting and does make me wonder, but the Arthur Morgan we got ended up being one of the greatest video game characters of all time. So I wouldn't change anything.

[@The_One_Who_Gives]

Its ment to be dark and realistic after all.

[@Rrancher22]

Too dark for the beginning of the game but if it was right before he found out he was sick it would have worked better

[@VooGGames]

Oh my..that Arthur would've been crazy to play as. A baby that froze, bruh...seeing how good and emotional the game is now I can't imagine what this version would've done to the red dead community.

[@omarifarrow7043]

The Javier hair style on Arthur is hella nice

[@sambarker117]

Original Arthur face looks like he got an allergic reaction or stung by a wasp on his nose lol

[@deepbluebeer]

Or an alcoholic🗿

[@jesseculp9277]

I think it would be very interesting to see, because in the story Arthur comes to realize that he’s hurting innocent people and leaving them financially unfit, I would love to see the way this Arthur deals with Strauss

[@charmicarmicat2981]

Honestly would’ve been way better and adds a lot more context as to why he would care about John, Jack and Abigail getting tf out of the gang. The tuberculosis making Arthur care because he’s about to die makes sense, but his child freezing to death because of the gang AND tuberculosis would’ve made a lot more sense. In the base game it’s kind of random that he cares about them so much, it makes complete sense but is also still pretty random.

[@Nevad25]

It's not. Arthur always had a good heart deep inside and always cared about Abigail, Jack and John.

[@Borgborg128]

John is the OG member along with him, basically his little bro, Abigail is sweet and nice, jack is basically his nephew (also prob reminds him of his dead son)

[@MyPerimeterIsMe]

I think it wouldve made his redemption better tbh, he was already pretty cold at the start. If we wouldve had that beginning with the honorable ending, i think it wouldve been amazing. Maybe as the more honor you gain, the more he becomes at peace with what he lost. Then they could continue it like the regular game where he gets tb, becomes way more humane, as he waits for his time to finally see his family again, and save as many loved ones as he can. It couldve been a great story, but i love the story we got either way. The only game that made me cry

[@gimmeyourrights8292]

This Arthur would've been perfect because now the audience gets to see him how he sees himself so when this version gets tuberculosis and feels a desire to change his ways, he feel that because we saw the monster he once was.