The Origins of Shoegaze (1964-1988)

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Additional albums that contributed to shoegaze:
The Beatles - Revolver (1966)
The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds (1966)
Love - Forever Changes (1967)
The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland (1968)
Pink Floyd - Meddle (1971)
Kingdom Come - Journey (1973)
Faust - Faust IV (1973)
Brian Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets (1974)
David Bowie - Low (1977)
Les Rallizes Dénudés - '77 Live (1977)
This Heat - Deceit (1981)
Bauhaus - The Sky's Gone Out (1982)
Talk Talk - The Colour of Spring (1986)
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0:00 Intro
0:57 The Ronettes - Presenting the Fabulous Ronettes
2:08 The Byrds - Fifth Dimension
3:26 The Velvet Underground & Nico (self-titled)
4:52 The Beach Boys - All I Wanna Do
5:45 Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
6:52 Siouxsie and the Banshees - A Kiss in the Dreamhouse
8:14 The Cure - Pornography
9:34 Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade
10:46 Cocteau Twins - Treasure
12:00 The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy
13:17 A Primary Industry - Ultramarine
14:31 Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All OVer Me
15:37 Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
16:44 Conclusion
Songs featured in the video-
1.) Cocteau Twins - Orange Appled
2.) The Ronettes - Be My Baby
3.) The Ronettes - Walking in the Rain
4.) The Byrds - 5D (Fifth Dimension)
5.) The Byrds - Eight Miles High
6.) The Velvet Underground & Nico - Heroin
7.) The Velvet Underground & Nico - Sunday Morning
8.) The Beach Boys - All I Wanna Do
9.) Joy Division - Shadowplay
10.) Joy Division - Day of the Lords
11.) Siouxsie and The Banshees - Cascade
12.) Siouxsie and The Banshees - Slowdive
13.) The Cure - The Figurehead
14.) The Cure - Cold
15.) Hüsker Dü - Pink Turns to Blue
16.) Hüsker Dü - Something I Learned Today
17.) Cocteau Twins - Pandora (For Cindy)
18.) Cocteau Twins - Amelia
19.) The Jesus and Mary Chain - Just Like Honey
20.) The Jesus and Mary Chain Taste the Floor
21.) A Primary Industry - Silesia
22.) A Primary Industry - Cicatrice
23.) Dinosaur Jr. - Little Fury Things
24.) Dinosaur Jr. - Tarpit
25.) Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot
26.) Sonic Youth - The Sprawl
27.) A.R. Kane - When You're Sad

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@Lalupin464
@Lalupin464 7 ай бұрын
I would like to throw in Robert Fripp’s guitar sound in David Bowie’s "Heroes” as a foundational moment in the development of shoegaze.
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 7 ай бұрын
Velvet Underground is an unsung influence on shoe gaze (“There wasn’t many people that listened to The Velvet Underground, but those that did started bands” - Brian Eno ) Edit: The Velvet Underground was indeed mentioned at 3:50 my bad ☺️
@eightiesmusic1984
@eightiesmusic1984 7 ай бұрын
It's A Mystery by Toyah also influenced shoegaze. As did Seven Tears by the Goombay Dance Band.
@Phone_got_cute_so_i_smash
@Phone_got_cute_so_i_smash 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@karinannamaria2514
@karinannamaria2514 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, well spotted!
@Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq
@Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq 6 ай бұрын
You could also throw in a Steve Hackett solo, or two, from early Genesis, and beyond.
@_benjimouse_
@_benjimouse_ 7 ай бұрын
As an old GenXer who went thru late 80s, early nineties show gaze, it makes me really happy that it's been kept alive by a new generation of fans.
@Fire_ov_Renewal
@Fire_ov_Renewal 5 ай бұрын
I don't recall shoegaze being a term back then, and I was into a lot of weird music.
@_benjimouse_
@_benjimouse_ 5 ай бұрын
@@Fire_ov_Renewal it was a derogatory term used by the english music press around the time of madchester. It was only later the term got co-opted to mean a particular genre.
@WowJustWow37
@WowJustWow37 2 ай бұрын
There is so much good music out now. I still go to concerts like I did as a teenager in the 90’s!
@GT380man
@GT380man Ай бұрын
@@_benjimouse_Agreed. I think the mainstream were irked by drone / proto SG getting in the way of the intended all dominant Britpop. Most of which owes its fame to the deep state.
@bobbydiosmith347
@bobbydiosmith347 7 ай бұрын
Been highlighting "All I Wanna Do" as an early shoegaze song for years now. Love that.
@Vinylfromtheunderground
@Vinylfromtheunderground 5 ай бұрын
100% spot on
@zachparade2791
@zachparade2791 7 ай бұрын
Really glad that the Ronettes, Beach Boys, and Byrds were mentioned! For my ears, it’s hard to beat that jangly 12-string sound the Byrds were exploring in psychedelia.
@edwardduarte7393
@edwardduarte7393 7 ай бұрын
Even the JAMC would say they were a big influence. Wall of Sound. They did a cover Surfing USA
@nickgangone9541
@nickgangone9541 7 ай бұрын
Eight Miles High is one of the songs I remember my dad playing early in life. The Byrds are a band I heard a lot.
@angelt.4204
@angelt.4204 7 ай бұрын
The Ronettes? I don’t think so.
@vicbertfartingclack4559
@vicbertfartingclack4559 7 ай бұрын
Thanks to The Beatles and George Harrison’s Rickenbacker 360/12 - not to mention the sitar.
@downallyourstreets
@downallyourstreets 7 ай бұрын
Can’t forget Big Black’s notched sheet metal guitar pick sound making a cheap old six string sound like a shattered mess of wires and razors. No less dreamy, just more of the nightmare sort.
@Julio4870
@Julio4870 7 ай бұрын
The Beach Boys' "Pet Sounds" is also considered a mainstay of shoegazing. Kevin Shields himself confirmed that "Loveless" was released on Mono in honor of this album
@crazycatman5928
@crazycatman5928 7 ай бұрын
In the 93 I was 18 and a senior and always loved grunge. As a 49 middle aged rocker….I love shoegaze. Glad you mentioned Joy Division. They’re one of my favorite bands of all time.
@michaelalmond-kraft488
@michaelalmond-kraft488 7 ай бұрын
Curve is one of my all time favorite shoegaze bands- hope they get a mention in your follow-up video. Dean Garcia's wall of guitar distortion married with Toni Halliday's haunting vocals. The result is mesmerizing...
@Fatherjohn76
@Fatherjohn76 7 ай бұрын
Great list with some worthy arguments made, I think Wire’s Chairs Missing and 154 deserve a mention and were influential on a lot of late 80s/ early 90s shoegaze artists especially songs like The 15th. I’d also nominate The Chameleons Script of the Bridge and Kitchen of Distinction’s Love Is Hell
@louis143
@louis143 6 ай бұрын
glad to see the chameleons mentioned, they‘re amazing
@Vinylfromtheunderground
@Vinylfromtheunderground 5 ай бұрын
All I wanna do by The Beach Boys was ground breaking not to mention how good the song was in addition to its production techniques
@jonsrecordcollection7172
@jonsrecordcollection7172 7 ай бұрын
If you want girl group music that is a precursor to shoegaze, you have to check out the Jaynetts, "Sally Go Round the Roses." It has very melodic, super-repetitive, chanting vocals that were recorded with layers and layers on top of each other. It's like a missing link between 60s girl group & drone & dream pop. I also love their song, "Snowman, Snowman, Sweet Potato Nose." It's like a repetitive, chanting shoegaze Christmas carol.
@basskick666
@basskick666 7 ай бұрын
Sally Go Round the Roses is awesome. There's a great cover version by Pentagle too. The Jaynetts version definetly belongs on a roots of Shoegaze mixtape.
@laurastrobel718
@laurastrobel718 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for bringing up that song. Wasn't sure who the artists were. So haunting 💫
@pillettadoinswartsh4974
@pillettadoinswartsh4974 6 ай бұрын
The day it surpassed "Be My Baby" - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoDaeqiDgbaYaKMsi=ZCdUSnTU5KaEmVdd&t=18
@pixelcultmedia4252
@pixelcultmedia4252 5 ай бұрын
Amazing music, I never heard them before. But they're not a precursor to shoegaze. They're clearly riffing off of what the Ronettes did but they didn't innovate the sound in any way to make them a precursor to or an inspiration for Shoegaze. They're just another (out of thousands) of players from that period who were trying to capture that Phil Spector sound.
@tomarkayan7677
@tomarkayan7677 4 ай бұрын
@@basskick666 An other great version by The Great Society (Grace Slick's first band).
@samborn7120
@samborn7120 7 ай бұрын
Great vid! Two tracks that need to be added: “Tomorrow Never Knows” from the Beatles 1966 Revolver. I consider this the first shoegaze record. “Here Come The Warm Jets”. From Eno’s 1974 record. That song is essential
@harveycan5820
@harveycan5820 6 ай бұрын
Yes on Tomorrow Never Knows! Good call on Eno, too! Big influence on drone vibe.
@JustinCase-ld4ih
@JustinCase-ld4ih 5 ай бұрын
Agree
@corvideity
@corvideity 5 ай бұрын
no wonder i liked that one so much lol. has ended by thom york is another one
@thomasalexand
@thomasalexand 4 ай бұрын
Yes. Yes. Yes. Brian Eno's Here Come The Warm Jets. Robert Fripp on Baby's On Fire. What a track.
@jonnyjaywick
@jonnyjaywick 7 ай бұрын
Zen Arcade is an extraordinary LP. I think its biggest connection to Shoegaze, is mainly cos loads of shoegazers loved Husker Du.
@jocksilver7
@jocksilver7 7 ай бұрын
Punk people loved HD, Metalheads loved HD, mainstream Rock people came to like HD to the end, even amidst the FolkNoir/neoFolk/industrial/militaristic hordes were they respected as raiders of both sonic limits and of everything we'd learnt from the 60s and 70s handling of an electric guitar. There was an imperative brutality resounding on their new songs, in their post-hardcore 2nd phase, especially with and after Metal Circus. HD have huge responsibility for the birth of SG, which, just like the term Goth, is a scam of a journalistic follie, born out of sheer cynicism and professional handicap. I like some of the groups but i refuse the moniker. It's dumb.
@jasonpeters9716
@jasonpeters9716 4 ай бұрын
Sugar/"Blue Copper?" 1992 album by Mould's Early 90s side band is as good or better than ANY album by Husker Du
@jocksilver7
@jocksilver7 4 ай бұрын
@@jasonpeters9716 It is. It's a big album, Copper Blue. But please never overlook Nova Mob's 1991 album The Last days of Pompeii. I guess Copper Blue was an immediate response to Hart's display of talent. The 2 albums shine as echoes of HD's greatness, even for grungy newcomers or the younger generations who were still illiterate when Zen Arcade was playing on national Rock fm stations (for instance, here in PT, António Sérgio was the first to play tracks like Never talking to you again, Chartered trips, Pink turns to blue). Maybe it meant he was guessing where they'd musically roam to, ascertaining the fact the trio indeed possessed a huge talent for making music for a wider slice of audience. ZA is still founded on HC pillars, with a bunch of interesting curios sprinkled all over its dlp vastness. Copper and Pompeii represent Hart and Mould's creative songwriting apex in the 91/92 context. ZA is not even my favourite album (guess the next 2 made it, NDR and FYW), but it sure proved they were US RnR royalty, as free as emulating the MC5 on Turn on the news, or on the long ''Reocurring Dreams'' warped jam session, invoking High Time grooves, where even Sun Ra and proto-Math Metal seem to intertwine. Sorry for the long reply, motivated by your valid statement.
@jasonpeters9716
@jasonpeters9716 4 ай бұрын
@@jocksilver7 Sorry ."Copper Blue"
@mxvega1097
@mxvega1097 7 ай бұрын
Good list. I think there's a subtle difference between "sounds a bit like" and "influenced" shoegaze. It's worth recalling that by about 1989 most of the foundations were there - 60s bubblegum, Velvets, Sonic Youth, Cocteaus, Paisley Underground - but it was incredibly varied in terms of influencing musicians, and let's face it people made shit up to seem cool when they were talking to NME or Melody Maker. Except Adam Franklin, who is just cool anyway. By 1989 a lot of indie acts were doing world tours (Sonic Youth, Mudhoney, Dinosaur) which set off a whole new wave of guitar/gaze experimentation, not least because LPs were expensive, music news was slow, MTV didn't exist, so late teens like me had to make do. We did ok.
@harveycan5820
@harveycan5820 6 ай бұрын
Yes to Paisley Underground band Dream Syndicate first album. Totally.
@cordeliamaintenance6418
@cordeliamaintenance6418 6 ай бұрын
MTV existed in 1989
@mxvega1097
@mxvega1097 6 ай бұрын
@@cordeliamaintenance6418 true, but not where I grew up.
@cordeliamaintenance6418
@cordeliamaintenance6418 6 ай бұрын
@@mxvega1097 fair
@davidsommerville2213
@davidsommerville2213 7 ай бұрын
Really fun and thought-provoking. As I was watching, I couldn’t help thinking of Bowie’s ‘Heroes’ with Brian Eno, John Lennon’s ‘#9 Dream’ and Bauhaus’ ‘Third Uncle’ would fit well between The Beach Boys and Joy Division.
@hw343434
@hw343434 7 ай бұрын
Definitely Lennon’s “#9 Dream” paved a way for both Dream Pop and Shoegaze
@Jacob-Laeby
@Jacob-Laeby 7 ай бұрын
"Third Uncle" is a cover though, it's originally a Brian Eno track.
@davidsommerville2213
@davidsommerville2213 7 ай бұрын
Yes, it’s the Eno version I had in mind, but for some reason, I typed ‘Bauhaus.’ Thanks for pointing this out.
@Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq
@Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq 6 ай бұрын
Diamond Head by Phil Manzanera. The version on 801 Live w Eno is phenomenal.
@geekylove3603
@geekylove3603 6 ай бұрын
All I wanna do - The Beach Boys
@warrengamameilhardin
@warrengamameilhardin 7 ай бұрын
Spacemen 3 is the most glaring omission. Neil Halstead said in an interview he would go and see them live as a teen and was blown away. Another omission is Loop. All I Wanna Do is a special song that always seems to sound ahead of it's time--such a heartful production and lyric. It's one of my favorite songs of my entire life.
@resistor27
@resistor27 7 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@jocksilver7
@jocksilver7 7 ай бұрын
Moon-based. I'd even say ''...THE...'' . And maybe GPO with PTV 2 and 3, on their more poppier and less ritualistic moments.
@marktaylor6491
@marktaylor6491 5 ай бұрын
Queen - She makes me So. Hidden away at the end of 'Sheer Heart Attack', and about a decade ahead of its time.
@manhattenman6075
@manhattenman6075 7 ай бұрын
Another band in my opinion which influenced Shoegaze artists and many 90s bands is Wire. Pink flag has some Shoegazey songs to it like the title track. But Chairs Missing and 154 definitely showcase it more prominently. Especially 154. MBV recorded a cover of a song Map Ref, off the album live.
@Mr.Steve-O
@Mr.Steve-O 6 ай бұрын
Saw Wire in the late 80's in Los Angeles, incredible band. Not sure about shoe gaze though?
@manhattenman6075
@manhattenman6075 6 ай бұрын
@@Mr.Steve-O the influence they had crossed over to Shoegaze. MBV covered the song Map Ref.
@arcangelolonoce2911
@arcangelolonoce2911 3 ай бұрын
@@manhattenman6075 and Lush covered Outdoor Miner, which is in fact textbook shoegaze with those ethereal melodies and harmonies...oh my what a song.
@goo_90
@goo_90 7 ай бұрын
Glad to see the mention of Daydream Nation. Favourite record of all time.
@universeofnone
@universeofnone 7 ай бұрын
You hit it hard. Thanks for the memories. I am old. My inspiration was Skinny Puppy.
@StainedGlassStories
@StainedGlassStories 7 ай бұрын
Rock on! Thanks for watching.
@Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq
@Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq 6 ай бұрын
I saw Skinny Puppy with Type-O-Negative, Ministry, and Godflesh.
@josepaulobrito1948
@josepaulobrito1948 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting and ambitious at the same time, overall a very valuable retrospective of the several ways that lead to the shoegaze sound across decades. Nevertheless, there is an extremely crucial band missing, it's The Chameleons (UK). Their debut album The Script of the Bridge, released 40 years ago, caused such a huge stir, both guitars drowned in chorus+reverb+delay and merging all the time to create dreamy, epic and vast soundscapes, did surely contribute a lot to the refined shoegaze sound as we know it today.
@DJarry394
@DJarry394 7 ай бұрын
This is a very insightful video. You know your stuff. Well researched, I think. Some pre shoegaze and dream pop could be Dream Syndicate’s When It’s Over, early Butthole Surfers, an obscure 60s band named HP Lovecraft did some wonderful, ethereal albums, Psychic TV’s cover of Good Vibrations, Fifty Foot Hose, from the 60s, insane stuff…some of the Fugs songs like CIA Man, MC5, Great Society Sally Go Round the Roses, Love’s Seven and Seven is, and Little Red Book, East West by Paul Butterfield, Omaha by Moby Grape. Damn, isn’t Shoegaze a sub genre of Neo Psychedelia?
@biancachristie
@biancachristie 7 ай бұрын
I dunno if it's a subgenre, but the evolutionary ties are there
@erickrause381
@erickrause381 6 ай бұрын
psychedelic rock, surely is a foundation. You're onto something with HP Lovecraft.... at the mountains of madness... or a Moody Blues Trip.. how about County Joe and the Fish with Section 43? on the new stp at monterey.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/amLUZaNmit6Nd6M
@bobdavis4848
@bobdavis4848 4 ай бұрын
Yes except the intro implies Verve the jazz label and the band are related; they are not. Ism did a great cover of "CIA Man."
@thebij21
@thebij21 7 ай бұрын
The Beatles "She Said, She Said" off Revolver is absolutely a proto-shoegaze song to me.
@IanBenchxx
@IanBenchxx 6 ай бұрын
For me the first shoegaze track could be Brian Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets ( closing track on the same titled solo debut by the Eno) released in 1974.
@KaiPonte
@KaiPonte 7 ай бұрын
Great video! As a child of the '80s, I was a heavy Jesus and Mary Chain as well as Ride fan. I always thought JAMC were the quintessential shoegaze band, as they spent much of the concerts I saw with them literally staring at their shoes. Daydream Nation is one of my favorite albums. Gonna have to check into the Nugaze bands.
@sexobscura
@sexobscura 7 ай бұрын
Agreed - early SY (and even later) ventured into that 'hypnotic' and 'trance' type music. JAMC also did a similar thing
@matthewjdouglas6471
@matthewjdouglas6471 7 ай бұрын
Do you remember Urusei Yatsura ??
@deadswan
@deadswan 6 ай бұрын
Check out Whirr they’re the best nugaze band
@deco2gogo
@deco2gogo 6 ай бұрын
I think The Pixies should be included in your list. They were amazingly experimental, and had a great "wall of sound" sound. If you're going to put Husker Du, Jesus and Mary Chain and Sonic Youth on the list, then you need at least one Pixies album, probably Doolittle. Also... Bauhaus! Great list, lovely video!
@micsunday14
@micsunday14 6 ай бұрын
Yep definitely pixies. Less goth stuff. More pixies+sonic youth
@pixelcultmedia4252
@pixelcultmedia4252 5 ай бұрын
It's not a contest and they couldn't include everyone who ever utilized natural reverb.
@deco2gogo
@deco2gogo 5 ай бұрын
@@micsunday14 Thanks! I agree, although I do think that a lot of early goth and post punk stuff, esp. Joy Division and the Cure, had a huge influence on shoegaze. It's hard to pin down all the influences that went into certain genres and sub-genres of music, kind of like trying to figure out a recipe just by tasting the dish, lol.
@deco2gogo
@deco2gogo 5 ай бұрын
@@pixelcultmedia4252 I understand that only a certain number of bands could be included, which is why I wasn't being a dick about it, and just giving my lowly opinion.
@Hexon66
@Hexon66 5 ай бұрын
@@pixelcultmedia4252 No, it's not a contest, but including Pixies would have made the list seem less devolutionary.
@pheresy1367
@pheresy1367 4 ай бұрын
The Doors - Strange Days album 1967 had a dreamy aspect that I TOTALLY fell in love with while WAITING around for the genre to properly emerge. Even Siouxxie covered one of the songs on that album... (You're Lost Little Girl)... But the title song "Strange Days" embodies the dream space the most.
@scottdunoven9405
@scottdunoven9405 5 ай бұрын
Glad you mentioned the Swirlies. Saw them in a small club in Seattle years ago. LOVED them. Tragically underrated band. Reminded me of Barrett -era Pink Floyd. Densely textured blankets of audio mayhem and mischief. Unforgettable. Thanks Swirlies.
@biancachristie
@biancachristie 7 ай бұрын
Yay! Seeing Husker Du on this list made my day. Hopefully someone went off and listened to Zen Arcade after they saw this.
@StainedGlassStories
@StainedGlassStories 7 ай бұрын
I hope so too! We wanted to do our Husker Du diligence in giving them the credit they deserve.
@biancachristie
@biancachristie 7 ай бұрын
@@StainedGlassStories Love that! I just found you guys through this video. Thanks for all the hard work. Y'all got a new subscriber, and Imma tell my friends about you
@mikesalmo
@mikesalmo 7 ай бұрын
I love early shoegaze, but this is just an amazing list of music. I also particularly love Husker Du’s cover of the Byrds’ “8 Miles High” and Dinosaur Jr’s cover of The Cure’s “Just Like Heaven.” I’m not super into covers in general, but I think they both develop something unique with the material, like a well done jazz standard. I’m happy kids are finding all of these treasures like I did 30 years ago. God I’m old.
@trappistpunk
@trappistpunk 7 ай бұрын
Tricky to choose just 12 but The Beatles Revolver was undoubtedly a huge influence
@trappistpunk
@trappistpunk 7 ай бұрын
Great work though - don’t disagree with anything here!
@deirdre108
@deirdre108 7 ай бұрын
Right, especially "Tomorrow Never Knows". It amazes even today.
@mickwarfield2447
@mickwarfield2447 6 ай бұрын
It's was really of a surprise including the Beach Boys. I.ve been a fan of them since 1975, and "All I Wanna Do" is one of my favorite songs of theirs. I never thought it would be an influence 50 years after it's release!
@davidbryen
@davidbryen 7 ай бұрын
I love this video, very well done. but I am surprised that The Chameleons were not mentioned.
@michaelalmond-kraft488
@michaelalmond-kraft488 7 ай бұрын
OMG- LOVE The Chameleons
@thrustpuppy
@thrustpuppy 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it a lot. I grew up in the 70s and remember my parents listening to an album by Lee Hazlewood and Nancy Sinatra. One song, Some Velvet Morning, was so dreamy and shoegaze that Slowdive recorded it decades later.
@hecanseeme8210
@hecanseeme8210 7 ай бұрын
I can’t believe Pink Floyd gets no mention.
@Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq
@Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq 6 ай бұрын
So many great examples. Far too many to list, in one video. Procol Harum ,The Zombies, The Animals. It's never-ending.
@Euthymia
@Euthymia 5 ай бұрын
I put together a shoegaze band (Grist, San Francisco, CA) in the early 90's (right after seeing Lush play in Union Square), and this is the first time I've seen anyone cite psychedelic-era Beach Boys as an influence on the genre. Thank you for doing so! And I can vouch for that at least in my case (well, Lush themselves covered a Dennis Wilson song on a b side). Carl Wilson is of course almost completely overshadowed by his more famous brother as a producer, but when I was a pre-teen, "All I Wanna Do," "Feel Flows," and "Long Promised Road" blew my musical mind. They still do, I'm still chasing the vibe of those songs! All dream pop, all produced (and entirely played, in the case of "Feel Flows") by Carl. Brian's own "'Til I Die" slots in there, too. Other than the artists in this video, we were also WAY into Neil Young's Rust Never Sleeps/Live Rust, especially Neil's guitar tone. Pixies were big contributors to our musical DNA, too. If someone had asked me to boil it down to its essence, though, I would have said I wanted to sound like Sonic Youth but in standard tuning.
@StainedGlassStories
@StainedGlassStories 7 ай бұрын
Hi all, I want to address why a few albums weren't on this list. Here are some albums we consider among the first shoegaze releases and will be appearing in a subsequent video. We are working on a follow up video- The Golden Age of Shoegaze (1988-1993): - Loop - Fade Out (1988) - A.R. Kane - 69 (1988) - Spacemen 3 - Playing With Fire (1989) - Galaxie 500 - On Fire (1989) - Kitchens of Distinction - Strange Free World (1991)
@s3lfFish
@s3lfFish 7 ай бұрын
great list. and there's probably a lot more influences, but I find that there's one band that's never mentionned and should be which is The Pastels. What do you think ?
@StainedGlassStories
@StainedGlassStories 7 ай бұрын
@@s3lfFish Thank you! I could see that. To be completely honest, I'm not too familiar with their music. But, from what I've heard, it sounds like their jangly sound could have been an influence for groups like Ride or Ecstasy-era MBV.
@Iggytommy
@Iggytommy 7 ай бұрын
@@s3lfFish Pastels are C86, lo-fi or Twee
@s3lfFish
@s3lfFish 7 ай бұрын
@@Iggytommy to me they sound proto shoegaze, "Baby you're just you", for instance.
@Iggytommy
@Iggytommy 7 ай бұрын
@@s3lfFish was The Pastels's sound ever heavy enough to be proto-shoegaze?
@mikedieters5271
@mikedieters5271 6 ай бұрын
Nice Buzzcocks reference!
@harveycan5820
@harveycan5820 6 ай бұрын
This was really well done! Many surprises in choices as you framed the underpinnings and inspiration for Shoegaze. I'm sure everyone had some ideas for what could have been in your list so here's mine: See My Friends by the Kinks, Tomorrow Never Knows/ Blue Jay Way/ Helter Skelter/ Within You Without You by The Beatles, many songs by the Doors, The Original Sin by Cowboys International, some songs on Days in Europa by the Skids. Some that were maybe major oversights were Echo & the Bunnymen and the Stone Roses. Some of Bowie in the 70s like Heroes, Low, Lodger, Scary Monsters all had elements of SG sound and textures. Your choices were solid and provoked a lot of thought!
@gigteevee6118
@gigteevee6118 7 ай бұрын
As someone who was there at peak UK 1989/90 Shoegaze this is dope! But Daydream Nation was always it as a 16yr old me ❤️
@StainedGlassStories
@StainedGlassStories 7 ай бұрын
So happy to hear that! I adore that album
@JimJWalker
@JimJWalker 7 ай бұрын
Sparklehorse, Red House Painters, Dif Juz, Pale Saints, Lush, Swervedriver, House of Love, Ultra vivid Scene, or even House of Love.
@seedmole
@seedmole 7 ай бұрын
Huge +1 to Sunday Morning being the first of its kind. Also to throw my two cents into the mix, one very niche band that I think was doing great things very very early on was Simply Saucer, out of 1970s Ontario, Canada. Their album Cyborgs Revisited, released years after they split up, is a little gem in that early punk niche when it was all just post-garage psych still.
@chuffa1130
@chuffa1130 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing that's an excellent list and spot on! One obscure band that's off the radar like many others was one called Shelleyan Orphan, pre shoegaze tunes late '80s I saw them open up for the Cure in 1989 but they never went anywhere
@lasaranasdelneptuno2201
@lasaranasdelneptuno2201 7 ай бұрын
This was really enjoyable and well argued. I appreciate you guys looking back farther. Look forward to more.❤
@synthsnail
@synthsnail 7 ай бұрын
thanks homie! we hope it doesn't come across too argumentative, it's just music opinions after all. But we do try to back it up even if we can't cover everything!
@gregs6424
@gregs6424 5 ай бұрын
Perfect explanation of this genre. Excellent work researching this project. Saving to Favorite videos!
@thekowboyelectrik7714
@thekowboyelectrik7714 7 ай бұрын
Great video! Loved it! I would have included The Chameleons, but that's okay! No one else ever does neither!
@everymandan4176
@everymandan4176 7 ай бұрын
View From A Hill is an early 'shoegaze' song. Slowdive are fans,
@barkloud
@barkloud 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@fluidikons
@fluidikons 7 ай бұрын
I would add Kitchens of Distinction - Strange Free World
@Lalupin464
@Lalupin464 7 ай бұрын
Kitchens of Distinction are criminally underrated.
@lorenzoiozzo6629
@lorenzoiozzo6629 7 ай бұрын
Great channel, I'm really glad to have discovered you
@gino88
@gino88 7 ай бұрын
You missed a big one "Born to be with you" by Dion. Many shoegaze pioneers including Spiritualized's Jason Pierce refer to it as "the first shoegaze album." Also Galaxie 500.
@valentinelovesyou_.38
@valentinelovesyou_.38 3 ай бұрын
interesting you mentioned jason pierce. i thought spacemen 3 should’ve been on here
@serenajara1229
@serenajara1229 7 ай бұрын
the only thing i would definitely add is brian eno before and after science! love your picks 🖤
@freewayblogger
@freewayblogger 3 ай бұрын
Consider the first side (everything up through King's Lead Hat) as "Before" and Everything After as "After."
@gazeunderthesunmusic
@gazeunderthesunmusic 7 ай бұрын
LOOP and Spaceman 3 should have been on a the list, because they both contributed to the shoegaze genre with psych/drone rockin my opinion
@StainedGlassStories
@StainedGlassStories 7 ай бұрын
We actually consider Loop and Spacemen 3 two of the first shoegaze groups, rather than proto-graze. They'll both be appearing in our next video!
@patoshannessy3775
@patoshannessy3775 7 ай бұрын
Orange Appled!! One of my favorites of all time!!
@justmichele1254
@justmichele1254 7 ай бұрын
Well done - thanks for including (the often overlooked) Husker Du :)
@bvabildtrup
@bvabildtrup 7 ай бұрын
Nice list. I didn't know about "A Primary Industry". I think maybe also some Brian Eno songs and a couple of "krautrock" songs could fit in here.
@wyldemusick
@wyldemusick 7 ай бұрын
I can draw a line from Amon Düül II and Can to Shoegaze. Probably drive it through Hawkwind’s early work, too.
@nsnopper
@nsnopper 7 ай бұрын
I had never heard the term Shoegaze until I came across your video. Interesting. Thank you for the information.
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 7 ай бұрын
Seems like a pretty good list. A few influential singles like "Sally go 'round the roses." by the Jaynettes (1963), "Mind Games" and "No. 9 Dream" by John Lennon (1974), "Are Friends Electric" by Gary Numan(1979), "Life in a Northern Town", by Dream Academy (1985), even "Unalone" by Translator (1983) come to mind, but it's hard to tell who was influenced by what.
@bigsby19
@bigsby19 7 ай бұрын
Ultra Vivid Scene’s Mercy Seat released in 1988 I think deserves a mention.
@StainedGlassStories
@StainedGlassStories 7 ай бұрын
They will be appearing in our Golden Age of Shoegaze video (1988-1993).
@alekoficial4520
@alekoficial4520 7 ай бұрын
I can't believe you didn't include "Painted Bird" from A Kiss in the Dreamhouse, that track is a masterpiece from the beginning to the end like the whole album.
@ThomasDodd
@ThomasDodd 7 ай бұрын
I thought the exact same thing.. John McGeoch's guitar work on that album - and that song in particular is definitely protoGaze!
@cleaningmyroom1000
@cleaningmyroom1000 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for shouting out A Primary Industry, heard that album last year and bought a copy on Discogs that night. Sans Orange feels like shoegaze.
@pomonagirl77
@pomonagirl77 7 ай бұрын
nice video! cool to hear the name "Ringo Deathstar". one time, back in the old days, they played at a party at my old rehearsal space!
@jdkirkland63
@jdkirkland63 6 ай бұрын
I would like to mention bands like Lush, and The Sundays. Loved listening to them in the early 90s.
@jdkirkland63
@jdkirkland63 6 ай бұрын
After reading the comments I see they have already been mentioned. Nevermind.
@khakigreengills7814
@khakigreengills7814 7 ай бұрын
Cool video. Check out the track 'Krautrock' by the band Faust. Arguably a full on Shoegaze sound from 1973.
@Sgtspork
@Sgtspork 6 ай бұрын
Faust are amazing
@GizmoBeach
@GizmoBeach 4 ай бұрын
Orange Appled is one of my favourite songs by anyone. Thanks for starting off with it. 💚
@raygrooves2666
@raygrooves2666 5 ай бұрын
I'd like to add Lush to the list. Also interesting to see A.R Kane pop up as they were part of Maaars who did pump up the volume.
@danilosaraujo79
@danilosaraujo79 7 ай бұрын
The Primary Colours by The Horrors is my favorite album of the '00s. It's the perfect combination of Shoegaze and Post Punk. Geoff Barrow's production really made the difference.
@lupcokotevski2907
@lupcokotevski2907 7 ай бұрын
Lazy Susan (1966) by the 18 year old Bronx genius, Laura Nyro. From the debut album, More than a New Discovery, the greatest ever debut album by a solo artist, honoured in the Grammy Hall of Fame. Nyro influenced Lush and X. Nyro" probably influenced more successful songwriters than anyone " Elton John, 2007. Nyro also introduced gothic chic in pop. For example, see her live performance of Poverty Train at Monterey Pop, June 1967. She also wore witches type hats and dark eye liner. Lazy Susan has a dark gothic mood.
@deirdre108
@deirdre108 7 ай бұрын
Glad to hear someone give a shout-out to Laura Nyro here. Todd Rundgren is often lauded (justly, of course) for his influences in songwriting and record production but guess who influenced TR? Unbelievable what Laura accomplished and at such a young age.
@lupcokotevski2907
@lupcokotevski2907 7 ай бұрын
@@deirdre108 Yep, truly remarkable. Cheers.
@Dave__f
@Dave__f 7 ай бұрын
Laura Nyro entire catalog is pure gold. Glad someone mentioned her
@Dave__f
@Dave__f 7 ай бұрын
​@@deirdre108Laura asked Todd to be her bsnd leader. Todd rundgren could have made this list too
@Rockthecasbah3535
@Rockthecasbah3535 7 ай бұрын
Shoegaze rolled Into the early 90's Blur(Leisure) Lush Lightning Seeds etc
@edlawn5481
@edlawn5481 6 ай бұрын
Lush was great.
@riverplate0101
@riverplate0101 7 ай бұрын
It was great discovering these groups then. I am grateful that younger generations are rediscovering this music that remains holy to me.
@journeyintothebible
@journeyintothebible 7 ай бұрын
The first three Love and Rockets albums.
@lestranged
@lestranged 6 ай бұрын
and the low selling 90's albums like Hot Trip To Heaven delve into shoegaze ( as well as electronica, but still featuring guitars)
@stephgreen3070
@stephgreen3070 3 ай бұрын
I love that so many of these bands were inspiration for several genres in years to come. It shows what amazing, ground-breaking bands they were. Super interesting that you have Husker Du on this list. As any good Minnesotan I love them, but I would not have put them in a list of influences for show gaze, though I do u sweat and why you have them here.
@cloudbloom
@cloudbloom 7 ай бұрын
I love videos like this. Thanks for all the work that went into it👌
@StainedGlassStories
@StainedGlassStories 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! We loved making this :)
@synthsnail
@synthsnail 7 ай бұрын
what a homie! comments like this keep us going :')
@thethirdgeneration1738
@thethirdgeneration1738 5 ай бұрын
Catherine Wheel and Lush. 2 great shoegazzer bands.
@evilira718
@evilira718 7 ай бұрын
Another band I think that’s worth mentioning is big country. They were a folky post punk band that tried to imitate the sound of bagpipe on guitar, which resulting in a droning sound similar to some later shoegaze bands.
@ChristChickAutistic
@ChristChickAutistic 5 ай бұрын
Very true.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 6 ай бұрын
I’d include “Walk Away Renee” and The Kinks “Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround” album, which includes some brilliant shoegaze moments.
@DjangoThunders
@DjangoThunders 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for educating me! I'm old, but I love music of all kinds.
@user-vb5zo8ry1i
@user-vb5zo8ry1i 2 ай бұрын
THis was helpfullly informative thank you!
@KurtfromLaQuinta
@KurtfromLaQuinta 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for reminding me about why I liked those early bands so much. I was there saving my lunch money to buy records. To this day… still buying music to add to my collection. There’s still great music out there if one seeks for it.
@JimJWalker
@JimJWalker 7 ай бұрын
Christ, you have just presented every one of my favorite albums when I was a teenager in the 1980s.
@kerrid3481
@kerrid3481 6 ай бұрын
Never heard it called show gaze before.
@emjlc3261
@emjlc3261 7 ай бұрын
Impressivily and just the line of my personal music journey in time - thnx
@user-pz2lt7ox1r
@user-pz2lt7ox1r 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video
@gothjim325
@gothjim325 7 ай бұрын
Incredible.. such cherished memories of these songs and a creative time period that I loved.
@Faks.09
@Faks.09 7 ай бұрын
What about durutti column? Their music sounds very dream poppy imo
@slackjaw4270
@slackjaw4270 6 ай бұрын
Yes indeed friend. Check out my favorite Dif Juz!
@psychedelicsanctuary.
@psychedelicsanctuary. 6 ай бұрын
Damn! You mentioned the two bands I expected you wouldn't. You mentioned Sonic Youth and Dinosaur Jr. I'm impressed man. 😀👍
@Daniel_McGarry_Paolini
@Daniel_McGarry_Paolini 4 ай бұрын
A similar breakdown for dream pop would be cool. I see Bobby Vinton, Roy Orbison, Bowie, Abba, Blondie, A flock of seagulls, and Dream Academy as all having songs that sound like modern dream pop.
@karinannamaria2514
@karinannamaria2514 7 ай бұрын
Great list and great channel. I would also like to mention: Felt (for example Ballad of the band), Wire (Chairs missing), "Therese" by The Bodines, "Is this the life "by The Cardiacs, Television (ca Adventure) and "Candle" off Sonic Youth's Daydream nation.
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 6 ай бұрын
Felt's keyboardist also ended up in Primal Scream later
@yaynetwork1483
@yaynetwork1483 7 ай бұрын
Strangely enough, Living Colour, a criminally underappreciated band, did a lovely song called "This Is the Life", off their "Time's Up" album, that has a great noisy, 'sitary' intro that reminds me of the Ultramarine album.
@dpalaoro
@dpalaoro 5 ай бұрын
oh my, you weren't kidding. That Beach Boys song, the mix. Wow, that mix is definitely ahead of its time, right? I'm almost convinced though, that the version you posted is actually a mix that was done quite later,and isn't the original mix. That's how good it sounds!
@rareshoegaze
@rareshoegaze 6 ай бұрын
A well put together vid, this is great! 👍
@StainedGlassStories
@StainedGlassStories 6 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@H-mu4bo
@H-mu4bo 4 ай бұрын
The Church embodied pop and ethereal soundscapes on their albums. The "Blurred Crusade", "Persia" and "Seance" were touchstones in shoegaze in the early 80's. Jangly guitars, Byrds inspired, and production wise superb.
@vicbertfartingclack4559
@vicbertfartingclack4559 7 ай бұрын
You mentioned the Byrds and the Beach Boys influence. Surprised you didn’t mention The Beatles. They introduced the jangly Rickenbacker 12 string to the rock world in the first place; not to mention the droning Indian music, drug influenced sound and use of the sitar. Listen to Tomorrow Never Knows, Norwegian Wood, She Said She Said, Ticket to Ride, Strawberry Fields, If I Needed Someone, Love You To, And Your Bird Can Sing, etc. Not to mention their brilliant song Rain. Listen to the Revolver album and Rubber Soul.
@vicbertfartingclack4559
@vicbertfartingclack4559 7 ай бұрын
Agree totally. But I would say they need to be cited by name where particularly relevant, especially as here, when their contemporaries, some of which only exist because of The Beatles (e.g. the Byrds) are cited by name and The Beatles are overlooked. Plus I think many today actually forget how edgy The Beatles could be. They didn’t just write clever and catchy pop rock tunes or ballads like Let it Be or Here Comes the Sun which tends to be what is played on radio or streamed nowadays.
@jkf9167
@jkf9167 7 ай бұрын
I agree. Their pop textures were denser and more otherworldly than most other bands starting early - as far back as "I Feel Fine". Then stuff like "Rain", "She Said, She Said", "Tomorrow Never Knows", "Strawberry Fields Forever", and even a lot of their regular album cuts had that dense, noisy texture.
@danielcarvalho1599
@danielcarvalho1599 6 ай бұрын
❤ Beautiful documentary!!
@lennon1482
@lennon1482 7 ай бұрын
the beatles it's all too much reminds me of shoegaze
@saabreplay7553
@saabreplay7553 7 ай бұрын
Great work my friend
@StainedGlassStories
@StainedGlassStories 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, friend!
@rustybearden1800
@rustybearden1800 6 ай бұрын
This is excellent - a genre of music that is important, iconic and underappreciated - love it!
@bobsoldrecords1503
@bobsoldrecords1503 7 ай бұрын
Let's move it back a year, to 1963 for the Jaynettes "Sally Go 'Round The Roses
@mcwulf25
@mcwulf25 4 ай бұрын
Bit of a jump from Beach Boys to Joy Division. I would insert mid-70s Bowie and Ramones in there.
@erickrause381
@erickrause381 6 ай бұрын
Syd Barrett, Piper at the Gates of Dawn, specifically, Astromomy Domine and Interstellar Overdrive..
@Andrewbreeze316
@Andrewbreeze316 7 күн бұрын
Love that you included the “wall of sound” mantra
@deathbedquestion
@deathbedquestion 3 ай бұрын
Love this info! Just an FYI to any not knowing, J Mascis & crew added Jr to the end of Dinosaur due to an earlier band having the same name. I have the "You're Living All Over Me" tape without the Jr appended from before that kerfuffle became known.
@matthyde3088
@matthyde3088 6 ай бұрын
Great work
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